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  • @calebcicero7727
    @calebcicero7727 4 місяці тому +1219

    imagine being upset you have to show up to work 80% of the time

    • @silverspadelord
      @silverspadelord 4 місяці тому +63

      Right they act so entitled

    • @jamesR1990
      @jamesR1990 4 місяці тому +105

      ​@@silverspadelordbecause they are.
      I'm not saying they don't deserve the money they generate for the league, but the laziness and "I deserve it even if I don't show up." has become a problem.
      We need a wave of Kobe Bryants in terms of work ethics to get to the league

    • @SICKBOYONYT
      @SICKBOYONYT 4 місяці тому +6

      That’s me all the time

    • @michaelmayers3622
      @michaelmayers3622 4 місяці тому +1

      The nba is not work tho at the same time both sides is right

    • @awdrpepper
      @awdrpepper 4 місяці тому +32

      To be fair, there is a ton of work these players do outside of game day. Even injured players are working out behind the scenes. Not to mention the crazy travel schedule and media commitments. It all adds up. That said... when you a paid as much as an NBA player, to play a sports game you supposedly love, precisely because of the fan base who fork out their hard earned money to see you play... you need to show up when you are healthy.

  • @Owlsdontsleepatnight
    @Owlsdontsleepatnight 4 місяці тому +789

    NBA players don’t think the fans made them millionaires, they believe their talent made them millionaires.

    • @milesmohrien8964
      @milesmohrien8964 4 місяці тому +37

      they would be right😂

    • @hmmmmmm6901
      @hmmmmmm6901 4 місяці тому +199

      @@milesmohrien8964it’s a bit of both if we didn’t love watching they would be playing in the park with us

    • @wolfgangfegelein2450
      @wolfgangfegelein2450 4 місяці тому +203

      @@milesmohrien8964 Their talent doesn't mean shit if there aren't any fans to pay to see them play

    • @Manticore2026
      @Manticore2026 4 місяці тому +23

      @@milesmohrien8964you don’t understand what the NBA and professional sports league are as a whole then do you?

    • @jps0583
      @jps0583 4 місяці тому +21

      @@wolfgangfegelein2450but the fans pay to watch them because of their talent…

  • @Vampcamp993
    @Vampcamp993 4 місяці тому +314

    This is the same man who almost retired because of accountability

    • @hmmmmmm6901
      @hmmmmmm6901 4 місяці тому +18

      😂😂

    • @gristle_licker
      @gristle_licker 4 місяці тому +14

      it makes sense that he's saying this then
      "I want money/accolades without doing the work, WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH"

    • @reecenorwood8377
      @reecenorwood8377 4 місяці тому +4

      League would be better

  • @willemdaho3
    @willemdaho3 4 місяці тому +462

    i remember when nba players used to play 80 games in a season. now 65 is just too much??

    • @jphugo15
      @jphugo15 4 місяці тому +30

      Nah but they were plumbers and firemen tho

    • @jphugo15
      @jphugo15 4 місяці тому +23

      These podcasters and reality stars have been so babied I'm glad they're gonna have to work for their money now

    • @jjcometa9333
      @jjcometa9333 4 місяці тому +15

      ​@@jphugo15thing is, Adam silver is so soft he's gonna give in eventually. That next cba is gonna be hectic

    • @unc54
      @unc54 4 місяці тому +4

      @@jphugo15 It's a pretty recent phenomenon. LeBron was one of the pioneers of load management and outside of two seasons (one which was lockout shortened) he played at least 70 games every season before he got to LA, including the full 82 his final season in Cleveland.

    • @Cyrus-rodn45
      @Cyrus-rodn45 4 місяці тому +9

      @@unc54kawhi is a load manager

  • @ChrisJoestarr
    @ChrisJoestarr 4 місяці тому +325

    So basically they want to show up 50% of the games, while gaining millions of dollars + receiving bonus, awards and nobody should complaint about it? Not even the fans who make it possible.

    • @hardworkingcriminal4873
      @hardworkingcriminal4873 4 місяці тому +11

      Sounds about what I hear the players advocating

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 4 місяці тому +3

      not to mention if they don't make the playoffs they only have to work from late october to the middle of april, and they aren't playing everyday either

  • @CelabWilliams-gb6rm
    @CelabWilliams-gb6rm 4 місяці тому +71

    Honestly bro, I’m 26, I’m paying my way through university undergrad to go to a t14 law school. I hate my job, I show up everyday sick or not(unless contagious I work in a kitchen) no matter how much hw and studying for nothing. I can pay the bills and go to school, some dates and I’m happy, imagine doing “what you love” and making MILLIONS. Not just 4-10 million, but 100s and being upset you can’t miss more than 20 percent of your days on a short term notice.

    • @choopdabloon6315
      @choopdabloon6315 4 місяці тому +7

      Speak brother

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 4 місяці тому +7

      Plus having an offseason from April to October if you don't make the playoffs, even if you play until june that's a nice offseason

    • @ItzRage08
      @ItzRage08 3 місяці тому

      This here man. Never pocket watch but draymond complaining are rich people problems bruh.

    • @andrewkelly1337
      @andrewkelly1337 Місяць тому

      You're not going to work the next day if you like sever some ligament in your wrist via some kinda knifework accident idk that's the best comp I got for the injuries players suffer (now more than ever because they're running faster/jumping higher and because they've been destroying their bodies playing the game for league profit since AAU ball and they're worn down by the time they're like 27)

  • @drewmeyer9679
    @drewmeyer9679 4 місяці тому +148

    The fact it’s called “load management” shows that state the NBA is in. Players are bitching about doing 80% of their job for 100% pay. They can still miss 17 games for no reason.

  • @Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan
    @Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan 4 місяці тому +64

    I hate to be the “oldhead”, but back then it was common for stars to play 70-75+ games, with half as much of the science and advancements that goes into player recovery.
    Player empowerment was meant to tackle organizations wasting superstar talent, it should have never been used as a ferry for pushing load management.

  • @isaiahh4108
    @isaiahh4108 4 місяці тому +191

    Play 3 quarters of the season oh the humanity 😂

    • @everia_games
      @everia_games 4 місяці тому +1

      God forbid 😂😂

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 3 місяці тому

      Exactly... this sad u gotta work 79% to get a bonus

  • @slackerofhell
    @slackerofhell 4 місяці тому +274

    Say it ain't so! The entitled millionaires don't care about the reason they're millionaires? What are the odds?

    • @Jay-rk5zr
      @Jay-rk5zr 4 місяці тому +1

      Technically they're millionaires because of their talent that's why most college players don't get paid I agree for the most part tho

    • @ultraf0rward
      @ultraf0rward 4 місяці тому +71

      @@Jay-rk5zrno fans = no money
      They’re millionaires because of the fans

    • @leroyflex1258
      @leroyflex1258 4 місяці тому +2

      @@ultraf0rwardawwww boo hoo billionaires have to pay them the contract that gets the fans to come watch

    • @slackerofhell
      @slackerofhell 4 місяці тому +36

      @Jay-rk5zr while I get that perspective, look at the WNBA. Far fewer fans means far less income. If every fan suddenly said, "I'm done, I don't want to watch anymore," all that talent in the world isn't going to mean much to keep their jobs. The lack of respect towards the fanbase is unreal. Over an extra 40$ million bonus. As if they don't make generational wealth as is. It's ridiculous.

    • @Jay-rk5zr
      @Jay-rk5zr 4 місяці тому

      @@slackerofhell i agree but the fans are the reason the players get paid they're not paying the players they are paying the billionaires who own the nba

  • @user-eq5wb5cb6v
    @user-eq5wb5cb6v 4 місяці тому +81

    Players before didn't need a 65 game rule because they actually played. They didn't sit out. There was no load management players took pride in playing all 82

    • @SmokeRichBiggs
      @SmokeRichBiggs 2 місяці тому

      Its easy to do when you on cocaine and steroids and nobody is testing you past your arrival to training camp

  • @RicardoGonzalez-bn5uu
    @RicardoGonzalez-bn5uu 4 місяці тому +60

    My first year as a teacher, I ended up missing time due to a medical condition. I had to sign paper work acknowledging that I didn’t meet the district attendance requirement…97%. I was 96.8%….unimaginable that NBA players complain about needing to play 65 games

    • @hijisfriend9030
      @hijisfriend9030 4 місяці тому +5

      79%. 80% is my college attendance minimum if I want to pass a class and they are bitching about playing while still get millions when they play less than 80% games😂

    • @Cocoflower528
      @Cocoflower528 4 місяці тому

      They said 97% not 97.0%. So actually you did meet the requirement. They knew it and still screwed you over

    • @SpeedHomeAttack
      @SpeedHomeAttack 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Cocoflower528You can’t just round up every number like it’s a fast food order lol. If that was the cause, our paychecks would look a lot more bigger. 96 is 96, not 97.

    • @Cocoflower528
      @Cocoflower528 4 місяці тому +1

      @@SpeedHomeAttack learn how to report significant figures. 96.8 is 97%. And it’s the same 😂

  • @crazynice32
    @crazynice32 4 місяці тому +124

    draymond is indeed short short bus material

  • @snakexpert552
    @snakexpert552 4 місяці тому +94

    I hope more people mention the 65 game rule for fans. We are paying HUNDREDS of dollars to see stars play, only for us to get a last minute load manage game? It ruins the product and disappoints fans.
    Also, the rule hasn't been needed in the past, because star level players ALWAYS played 70+ games a season

  • @blvalverde
    @blvalverde 4 місяці тому +42

    The super athletes who are "built differently" can't play 80 games like the firemen and plumbers of the past. Hmmm

    • @wockcup38
      @wockcup38 4 місяці тому

      so mj was a fireman, you sound really dumb

    • @everia_games
      @everia_games 4 місяці тому +9

      It's crazy, if the season was shortened they'd still not want to play 45 or 55 games

    • @damonjohnson7044
      @damonjohnson7044 4 місяці тому

      Right 😂

  • @TheSkyrimps3
    @TheSkyrimps3 4 місяці тому +29

    “Everybody fine until someone who doesn’t deserve the accolades gets it”
    You mean like your teammate Andrew Wiggins who got all star because all the forwards that were better than him got hurt Dreymond?

  • @ForceOfWill100
    @ForceOfWill100 4 місяці тому +39

    Utterly delusional. The reason it wasn't a rule before was simple: it didn't need to be a rule, because players gave a fuck about the fans and growing the league as a whole. When I was a camp counselor, we didn't have a rule about not shitting in other campers beds, but due to one "creative" kid, guess what wound up needing to become a rule? They still get paid for not showing up to work, and want raises and awards for it too? I swear they got no clue how it is they make their money in the first place.

  • @yousoldthebag
    @yousoldthebag 4 місяці тому +135

    This is why the ratings are down, the fans are getting fed up with players sitting out

    • @rasaecnai
      @rasaecnai 4 місяці тому +12

      That is exactly why they have the 65 games rule. NBA makes most of its money on TV deals. Now the network dont want to pay for games when players dont show up. So they demanded that players play the 65.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 4 місяці тому +1

      @@rasaecnai Yeah these guys always see the new big money deal and sign to terms of an agreement, then after they sign they start trying to complain

    • @gregking641
      @gregking641 4 місяці тому

      Man fuck them fans 🤣🤣🤣

    • @B3Band
      @B3Band 4 місяці тому

      Ratings are down because the games are meaningless. More than half the teams make the playoffs anyway, so who cares if you drop a few games and rest along the way?
      If the players want to play 65 games, and they're willing to keep the same pay per game, then reduce the number of games.
      Stop simping for team ownership and listen to the people who actually do the work.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 4 місяці тому +2

      @@B3Band Why did everybody else in the past play 82 and these guys can't? Eating too many soy products maybe? Or maybe it's their commitment and mindset.
      The game is softer than it's ever been so there's no reason to shorten the season, other than the fact these players lack of intensity and care about the game has made the NBA unwatchable, ontop of the NBA allowing the game to become so soft and non-defensive once Adam Silver became commissioner, so nobody cares anymore

  • @dannybrady2577
    @dannybrady2577 4 місяці тому +27

    Draymond just talking out of his ass saying he lost to kawhi who played about 51 games, takes 5 seconds to google and see he played 72 in 2015-2016 and 74 in 2016-2017

  • @albinbergvall9112
    @albinbergvall9112 4 місяці тому +49

    I'ma be honest, it's crazy to me that some of the NBA stars even get max contracts with their expected injuries. Like why pay a max for a player that only plays 60% of the games. Dude should be paid 60% of the max.

    • @LuciferMoringstar999
      @LuciferMoringstar999 4 місяці тому +1

      I agree, i had an argument with an embiid fan and his argument was that the fan expext to much for him and he's only human i rebuttal with we at least expect him to play the game he's getting paid millions to play.

    • @teannatrump2622
      @teannatrump2622 4 місяці тому +1

      And it’s not like 60% of the regular season games and 100% of the playoffs it’s 60 both

    • @mareklame8589
      @mareklame8589 4 місяці тому +3

      I think salary should be split into obligatory contract and the game-money. If you show up in the street clothes, you don't contribute to the NBA game as a product. So reducing salary + cutting bonuses (like all-nba money) is fair.

    • @dochouse_
      @dochouse_ 4 місяці тому

      Listen up, if it doesn’t affect the owners bottom line then nobody cares. It’s a business. Why play a guy every game when u can rest him a 1/4 of the season and get 4-5 more years out of him?

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes 3 місяці тому

      Exactly like khris middleton who I like but dude been hurt the last 3 seasons yet milwaukee gave him a nice contract this past offseason and his health and abilities are questionable

  • @tonyochiha9798
    @tonyochiha9798 4 місяці тому +22

    A.I. used to come in with a shoulder and arm wrapped up like a mummy trying to play games. Ewing in the playoffs playing with literally 1 leg. Kobe, Wade with mangled limbs but playing anyway.

    • @asaptenebrae2240
      @asaptenebrae2240 4 місяці тому

      Isiah Thomas played with an injured ankle. Bird played after a concussion.

  • @annetteoleary5691
    @annetteoleary5691 4 місяці тому +40

    there is no way there are human beings this out of touch 😭

  • @TheDJJProductions00
    @TheDJJProductions00 4 місяці тому +35

    It's kinda outrageous how NBA players and NBA media are this out of touch with fans ACTUALLY wanting to enjoy the NBA. You know how we enjoy the league? It's for players to actually play at the LEAST 80% of the regular season!

    • @rasaecnai
      @rasaecnai 4 місяці тому +1

      NBA media has been supportive of the 65 games. I've only seen players like haliburton and draymond complain about it.

  • @WoolfJ35
    @WoolfJ35 4 місяці тому +21

    People like Green will make the average person turn against some players who actually have a valid issue with this rule, Draymon should have been talking trash about players who went too far with "load management" because that's the reason the league made this rule and guess what the players agreed to it.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 4 місяці тому

      Seems like it's only LeBron and Draymond hating on the rule, funny they're both with clutch sports

  • @mbuvito
    @mbuvito 4 місяці тому +70

    No professional athlete in the world is more egocentric and sensitive than an NBA player. They hate fans. They’d rather spend their energy going at social media “hate” than actually play for the fans who love the game.

    • @kid100music3
      @kid100music3 4 місяці тому +7

      You are right.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus 4 місяці тому +8

      Now that I think about it you're absolutely right.

    • @mareklame8589
      @mareklame8589 4 місяці тому +10

      They don't hate fans. Hate requires some acknowledgement. They simply view fans as inisignificant bugs.

    • @choopdabloon6315
      @choopdabloon6315 4 місяці тому +1

      True no other sport

    • @mbuvito
      @mbuvito 4 місяці тому +6

      @@mareklame8589 true, they’re apathetic towards the fans, which is actually much worse

  • @darkstarmedia
    @darkstarmedia 4 місяці тому +83

    Bro, the NBA is the only place this type of shit happens.

    • @josez9802
      @josez9802 4 місяці тому +9

      I swear no other sport complains as much as the nba

    • @navonmyhand7999
      @navonmyhand7999 4 місяці тому +2

      Probably because the Player Association has negotiated more power for the players than any other group has been able to. Plus, a single NBA player probably means more for a team's success than for any other major team sport.

    • @SuperFang1
      @SuperFang1 4 місяці тому

      The Players Union is powerful.

    • @smoothsavage2870
      @smoothsavage2870 4 місяці тому

      It's not. A report came out stating that it happens in baseball too.

    • @quickie17
      @quickie17 4 місяці тому

      No it's not most of the major sports the manager can rest players as he sees fit,
      It's just Americans that want players to run themselves into the ground

  • @Base_Supremacy
    @Base_Supremacy 4 місяці тому +16

    The goal wasn’t for the fans. it was to get a bigger TV contract next season and to help stabilize gambling because having players rest on random days makes it hard to predict the odds for gambling, So the gambling commission was freaking pissed with Adam silver. So he did something about it it was for them for money not for the fans.
    The fans benefit from 65 game rule but it wasn’t for them that wasn’t the Goal.

    • @dochouse_
      @dochouse_ 4 місяці тому +1

      Thank u. People act like the players are the sole problem. It’s the league as a whole.

    • @rubbishrabble
      @rubbishrabble 4 місяці тому

      No, 30 points 15 rebounds for 13 consecutive years if you were down to only 50 games per season.
      That is what it takes to get in the NBA Hall of Fame 19500 points 9750 rebounds.
      It is not like they will let in a load manager ahead of Chauncey Billups with his consecutive Eastern Conference playoff appearances.

  • @mikewallace9292
    @mikewallace9292 4 місяці тому +57

    Tom Brady played an entire nfl superbowl when he was 40 with a torn meniscus and won the superbowl. Keep on yappin draymond

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 4 місяці тому +5

      Goes to show how easy it is to be a QB.

    • @slavko7898
      @slavko7898 4 місяці тому +1

      bro he just throws the ball he aint doing shit physically until he gets hit

    • @dt823
      @dt823 4 місяці тому +4

      @@slavko7898 what ?💀you do realize he still has to move right ? And also throwing a football correctly is not done with just your arms. It’s a full body thing

    • @slavko7898
      @slavko7898 4 місяці тому

      @@dt823 what he backpedals like 6 feet wow tons of movement if that dude tried running up and down an nba court he’d be wheezing after 5 minutes

    • @3self
      @3self 4 місяці тому +1

      @@slavko7898 and nba players would be crying after getting tackled lol

  • @ericfranklin1802
    @ericfranklin1802 4 місяці тому +27

    Draymond is one of those players who knows ball but not all that much more outside of playing the game

    • @mareklame8589
      @mareklame8589 4 місяці тому +2

      The NBA players get such big money, they live within a bubble.

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes 3 місяці тому +1

      Draymond one of them dudes nobody was checking for when he was a regular dude so he couldn't express his personality as much but soon as he made money n fame his arrogance came out

  • @MegaMonomer
    @MegaMonomer 4 місяці тому +15

    The entitlement of the players is hurting the game. Just do your job, the 65 game rule is to stop the players taking advantage of the fans.

  • @salamandress
    @salamandress 4 місяці тому +11

    Oh I've been saying that for 20 years. There's no bigger group of entitled and overpaid athletes than the ones in the NBA.

  • @quinburner3362
    @quinburner3362 4 місяці тому +12

    How did the nba take away defense and physical play but yet more players than ever need load management breaks and are “injured” more??? People used to play 82 games also while dealing with a more physical and rougher game back then?????

    • @jasondyrkacz8270
      @jasondyrkacz8270 4 місяці тому +2

      See the flop rule that's barely enforced.

    • @freeisalwaysme
      @freeisalwaysme 4 місяці тому

      That's the league not the players making those rules

  • @galisleo8737
    @galisleo8737 4 місяці тому +13

    I don't agree with the 65 game rule. They should make it 75 game rule.

    • @everia_games
      @everia_games 4 місяці тому

      Yes

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 4 місяці тому +3

      Make DNP count as a 0 in your counting stat averages, and you don’t even need a games played rule.

  • @Deputy567
    @Deputy567 4 місяці тому +53

    The 65 game rule Lebron wouldn’t even be all nba last year and I’m not mad at that. He was all nba 3rd team playing 55 games. That’s barely 67% of the season not even 75% of the games.

    • @ivandankob7112
      @ivandankob7112 4 місяці тому +1

      Dude is like 40 years old already, give him some slack 😂

    • @Deputy567
      @Deputy567 4 місяці тому +15

      @@ivandankob7112 dude that’s fine, but when people called this out last year we were told we are Bron haters.

    • @neptune4359
      @neptune4359 4 місяці тому +15

      @@ivandankob7112he’s free to retire, he decided to keep playing so he needs to follow the rules. He ain’t special.

    • @damboulton
      @damboulton 4 місяці тому

      Exactly, Bron and his fans want all of the upsides of continuing to play at a later age with none of the downsides. The world is in an entitled state @@neptune4359

    • @TSierra
      @TSierra 4 місяці тому

      I like the rule, even though I think Bron was injured with his foot, you can’t win awards not showing up to work.

  • @hydrarmk9206
    @hydrarmk9206 4 місяці тому +16

    They do care, when its convenient for them to do so.

  • @fdub301
    @fdub301 4 місяці тому +8

    7:42 ‘on a nightly basis’ yea Draymond, that’s the point

  • @alekgold18
    @alekgold18 4 місяці тому +18

    Seeing the like to dislike ratio on Draymond's video was hilarious, shit was like a flash bang

    • @manz7860
      @manz7860 4 місяці тому +4

      Whats it at right now? Dislikes are hidden on mobile

  • @El_reecio
    @El_reecio 4 місяці тому +7

    4:57 with this point, a few years ago Lamelo ball won rookie of the year with only 50 games, and Anthony Edwards had an arguably better season and played 70 games.

  • @danielcraig7571
    @danielcraig7571 4 місяці тому +11

    Millionaires complaining to an audience of plumbers and firemen about having to go to work. Kind of ironic.

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes 3 місяці тому +1

      Athletes in general forget that a sports career is atypical and are super fortunate to have that be a lived out dream

  • @Loqque
    @Loqque 4 місяці тому +6

    Every time i see a video of this - there is only one thing to say really.
    Players agreed to this rule when signing new CBA which also give them all that extra money with contracts. And since stars like Joel or Draymond definitely knew what the CBA offer was, their complains are null.
    The entitlement is really getting out of hand.

  • @NBAPlayersAssociation
    @NBAPlayersAssociation 4 місяці тому +40

    Low starting to sound like
    Maybe this era isn’t as great as they pretend like they are. Better dribblers, better shooters but they don’t care about the game

    • @nicolasm.3708
      @nicolasm.3708 4 місяці тому +1

      Better carrier and better traveler…

    • @AndreInThe416
      @AndreInThe416 4 місяці тому

      They're not better dribblers.

    • @chadwellington2524
      @chadwellington2524 4 місяці тому

      Not better dribblers, watch a game they carry every single time they drive to the basket

  • @KXXNGp
    @KXXNGp 4 місяці тому +7

    I think it’s bs they complain about having to actually do their job, if someone else shows up more than you absolutely they should get recognition, who cares that they aren’t the big names, it should absolutely be a meritocracy.

  • @iwoodrep11
    @iwoodrep11 4 місяці тому +16

    This is a result of “player empowerment”. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @mareklame8589
      @mareklame8589 4 місяці тому +3

      "With great power comes great responsibility" said Uncle Ben. Current players took the upside of having power (money) witthout its downside responsibility.

    • @freeisalwaysme
      @freeisalwaysme 4 місяці тому

      No because regular season is meaningless

  • @NateMcCoy1194
    @NateMcCoy1194 4 місяці тому +9

    I don’t like to be the guy who says “this is why…” but the ratings fall with the NBA because of the blatant disregard for the fans the players have. To have the level of bad self awareness like Draymond as it relates to the new rules and thresholds is insane to me.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 4 місяці тому

      Yep game is worse and players weren't even playing, plus they went political

    • @freeisalwaysme
      @freeisalwaysme 4 місяці тому

      ​@@stevenscummy1458karem Abdul jabbar has entered the chat.

  • @bryanfoster326
    @bryanfoster326 4 місяці тому +6

    People like to bring up people’s money and talk about how it’s unfair because a dude like haliburton is gonna miss out on a super max because he won’t qualify. Well, he’s on track to play 63 games, Jalen Brunson is on track to play 79. If Jalen Brunson gets all nba third team, he’s eligible for a super max for what will likely be his last big contract and this season is probably his best chance to get an all nba team to qualify for that super max. Point blank, 79 games at the level Brunson is playing is just better than 63 at the level Hali is playing. If we give it to Hali cause he got hurt, Jalen Brunson, who is actually performing night in and night out, gets hoed out of a super max, because we “feel bad for Hali.” People like draymond talk about how this affects the players money without talking about all the players whose money is getting affected.

  • @dionm.978
    @dionm.978 4 місяці тому +12

    Back in the day the standard was to play every game if possible. And they say todays players are bigger, faster, stronger but, somehow they're less durable.

    • @dt823
      @dt823 4 місяці тому

      Bc when you’re bigger and faster it puts more stress on the body alongside the increase in speed of the game itself.

    • @cleancook695
      @cleancook695 4 місяці тому +2

      @@dt823oh boohoo u still getting paid millions to play ball like the average person wouldn’t want to do that

    • @reapercometh
      @reapercometh 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@dt823the leagues less physical now as a counterpoint

    • @samuellolango9720
      @samuellolango9720 4 місяці тому

      @@dt823 did you intentionally leave the "stronger" part out? lol

    • @dt823
      @dt823 4 місяці тому +1

      @@samuellolango9720 no I didn’t intentionally leave it out but considering I accidentally left it out I will say that the average player probably isn’t much stronger than they used to be. And also strength will not prevent most of the injuries that come with the wear and tear of running, jumping, having bad ligaments/joints, or freak accidents. If it did then there wouldn’t be nearly as many non contact injuries as there are in football where everyone outside of corners and smaller receivers squats 300+ and benches 225 15 times.

  • @stoplosinglilboy1461
    @stoplosinglilboy1461 4 місяці тому +31

    LOW WHAT HAPPENED TO PLAYBACK?????

    • @hawaiin420
      @hawaiin420 4 місяці тому +6

      Someone asking the real question

    • @Deputy567
      @Deputy567 4 місяці тому +4

      Deadass

    • @khalilcruz5816
      @khalilcruz5816 4 місяці тому

      @@hawaiin420is it gone or deleted or something?

    • @Weinersinthenude
      @Weinersinthenude 4 місяці тому

      ​@@khalilcruz5816 Last upload was 3 weeks ago

    • @hawaiin420
      @hawaiin420 4 місяці тому

      @@khalilcruz5816 my best guess is either agent has been busy with amp stuff and hasn't had time, or Low and or agent doesn't wanna do it anymore, I have no idea btw

  • @dillonloxton
    @dillonloxton 4 місяці тому +3

    My thing is that other sport disciplines don’t have these mindsets because if they don’t play they’ll either be cut or won’t get game time so ya it sounds like nba players feel like they above the league and entitled to some sort

  • @ma1ist
    @ma1ist 4 місяці тому +4

    god forbid you play at least just 80% of the season. and the season isn't even a full year!

  • @-hunt-6225
    @-hunt-6225 4 місяці тому +3

    We knew they didn’t care when they started the resting era. Theyre entitled and privileged which is common in all sports these days.

  • @DotGuyBroodie
    @DotGuyBroodie 4 місяці тому +4

    There are nba players who’ve never missed games back in the day hell if im not wrong i believe mikal bridges has never missed a collage or nba game due to injuries

  • @Frazier16
    @Frazier16 4 місяці тому +4

    Its crazy how these guys get millions of dollars and can not play for no good reason. While people today work there asses off and are still struggling.

  • @martino5742
    @martino5742 4 місяці тому +7

    Imagine implying that Jokic, Giannis, SGA, Luka, etc arent totally deserving of the MVP award. Embiid wasn't even as good statistically as Jokic on a per game basis when he played this year (Luka has also surpassed him per game), he just scored a shitload. And even if Embiid was the best player per game, how in the world are guys who are ever so slightly not as good as him, but play WAY MORE than him, less valuable for the season? The rule shouldn't be necessary, but if it saves us from Embiid winning another MVP just because of the scoring title. Like bruh the scoring title is already a thing. He can take that home. Jokic (at least him) contributes more overall

    • @20k200
      @20k200 4 місяці тому

      How were they more valuable when he was doing the most valuable skill in basketball at a higher level than all to them? It’s like y’all forget the main objective of how to win in basketball that y’all just disrespect the scoring record without actually understanding what it means. And he was also doing other things so it’s not like he was just scoring. Just say you don’t like it embiid and keep it at that instead of making excuses for other people.

    • @martino5742
      @martino5742 4 місяці тому

      @@20k200 did you just say people forget that scoring points is the objective to win at basketball? No bro, we didnt forget that. Its just that looking at volume of points directly scored by an individual is a very simplistic way to assess a player’s value to an offense. Passing and efficiency matter. Avoiding missed shots and turnovers can make it so that a guy who doesnt even score 30 per game is netting more production than a guy averaging 36. Embiid’s traits that he holds over Jokic are volume scoring, athleticism, and rim protection. Jokic has him beat in the intangibles that make for winning basketball, and the analytics have backed this up, despite improvement by Embiid

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 4 місяці тому

      Make DNPs count as a 0 on your counting stat averages and see how fast load management stops.

  • @yan_bd9697
    @yan_bd9697 4 місяці тому +6

    Players are complaining as if the league made a one-sided decision, when actuality this was a rule agreed to by the players union during negotiations about the new CBA

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 4 місяці тому

      You think the player’s union says anything but “yes”? It’s not like these dudes can stop playing ball and get another job and get paid like they’re being paid

    • @yan_bd9697
      @yan_bd9697 4 місяці тому

      @@Augrills So what you are saying is the players who chose to be in a union and have that represent them have no room for negotiation.

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 4 місяці тому

      @@yan_bd9697 in regards to these rules? No. This goes over the NBA’s head when it’s a request by broadcasters to renew deals.

  • @dynamite215
    @dynamite215 4 місяці тому +5

    Nba players not caring is about to be on full display for the Allstar game coming up 😂😅

  • @KevM00734
    @KevM00734 4 місяці тому +3

    Back in the day players showed up and played they didn’t need the rule

  • @poppatheegoat
    @poppatheegoat 4 місяці тому +3

    Joel said he didn’t care about mvp but force himself to play to win MVP, Sad to see him go thru it but he forced it

  • @TheBrocktopus
    @TheBrocktopus 4 місяці тому +3

    This is only a problem for guys going into supermax contracts! Player's/team's abused missing games to the point, the league was forced to step in because fans were fed up paying hundreds to thousands of dollars to travel to see their favourite player play only for them to sit out last minute because of "Load Management"!

  • @BT405
    @BT405 4 місяці тому +4

    Yeah exactly only 1 MVP and I believe 3 DPOY's would be different if the rule always existed. And I actually went back and counted how many players would have missed out on All-NBA had the rule been in place.
    EVERY single year prior to 2018: 25 TOTAL All-NBA players did not play 65 games.
    2018-2023: 21 TOTAL All-NBA players did not play 65 games.
    So no, the history books would definitely NOT look that different if only an average of 1 player every few years would not have qualified. This is an extremely recent issue and it's a great rule to have in place to get these guys to actually play and prove they can be as good over more time played. It's way easier to keep a 25-5-5 average over 50 games than it would be over 70 or 80 games.

  • @Icipher353
    @Icipher353 4 місяці тому +2

    The 65 game rule isn't for the fans, it's for the teams orgs that sell tickets to the game, and for the TV networks that pay big money for the broadcast rights. Both have huge financial investments in having the big stars play as often as possible, and what the money people want, the money people get.

    • @daryllndemmayah4874
      @daryllndemmayah4874 4 місяці тому +1

      Still the fans, because the the big tv networks and teams would be this worried if they have people lined up to buy their product. If no one watched the NBA, the network companies won’t pay big money for these games. Money won’t be made of the tickets. At the end of the day. You go to the coliseum to see the gladiators fight. Not ordinary people or people you have never heard off.

  • @GigaChadsAreReal
    @GigaChadsAreReal 4 місяці тому +5

    Draymond's brain has only one brain cell after spending so much time with Lebron

  • @randomstonerrants5004
    @randomstonerrants5004 4 місяці тому +3

    What annoys me is Draymond inability to recount history correctly. Zero fact checking just spits what he feels is correct. Unfortunately this is reflective to our population at large. Players need to stfu, suit up and play ball. All this trying to sway the narrative in any other direction is a waste of time. Dramond need to blame organizations (including the warriors) for making this a stead fast rule. The fans want to see you in Nikes, not you Gucci slips. Draymond highkey bitching too much for my taste...

  • @abhoundzo4938
    @abhoundzo4938 4 місяці тому +2

    As a former service member this is just sad.

  • @user-is1zl8wf8t
    @user-is1zl8wf8t 4 місяці тому +2

    I agree with you 1000% They act like us fans don’t matter at all which is so crazy

  • @Bayumm65
    @Bayumm65 4 місяці тому +3

    Imagine making millions playing a sport kids play and complaining about having to play said game you love.

  • @branislavzlatic11
    @branislavzlatic11 4 місяці тому

    love your videos man.. fact checking and precision are on point i love the passion man keep going.

  • @_YourFlyIsOpen
    @_YourFlyIsOpen 4 місяці тому +3

    Guys like Draymond are delusional, he thought he was spittin.

  • @p2pirate534
    @p2pirate534 4 місяці тому

    Love the channel man. Prolly the best nba takes on UA-cam. Appreciate the consistent voice of reason.

  • @salvatoresultana4058
    @salvatoresultana4058 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m a baseball guy. They play 162 games a year. I know baseball is a lot more relaxed than basketball, but 162 games over 6 months is still a lot. I don’t hear them complain.

    • @blank-vj1mc
      @blank-vj1mc 4 місяці тому +2

      Because there’s not a culture of player tantrum enabling like the NBA.

  • @corteljackson6569
    @corteljackson6569 4 місяці тому

    Late to the vid but just wanna say thanks for droppin these. Definitely enjoy listenin
    to your opinions on topics, helps gets through work💯. Hope this stays a constant thing though nba seasons to come. If not it was great while it lasted.

  • @phillycezaarr9963
    @phillycezaarr9963 4 місяці тому +2

    Good point, if there was talk about me getting a raise at the end of the year and I break my leg and miss a significant amount of time, they probably won’t give it to me depending on how much time I missed. And yea it sucks, I’m a Sixers fan and want to see Embiid succeed, which means wins MVP, but the rule makes sense and I’m not mad at the rule. I just wish he didn’t get hurt.

  • @burekevan
    @burekevan 4 місяці тому +3

    draymond really seems like hes lost touch recently (on the court hes still draymond) but probably around the first TNT appearance being so praised and then the podcast accelerating it i can't really get on board with anything he says anymore

  • @TamayoSara-kg8zc
    @TamayoSara-kg8zc 4 місяці тому

    I like your takes my guy. Unbiased and real. Got a good channel right here. Keep it up!

  • @WalkerSportsLounge
    @WalkerSportsLounge 4 місяці тому +4

    Draymond need to be blaming players like Ben Simmons and James Harden for this

  • @dynamite215
    @dynamite215 4 місяці тому +2

    Imo even tho I hate the In-season tourney they may need to extend it to put more of an emphasis on regular season games and maybe even shorten the season 10 games to 72 but extend the play-in tournament to best of 7 , players would Def play more games that way

  • @huntermach7356
    @huntermach7356 4 місяці тому +10

    365 days in a year, but they make millions to only work 82, and now they're complaining about having to play 65. Basically work 65 games out of 365 a year. Dang!!

    • @SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen
      @SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen 4 місяці тому +1

      So all the practice time and PR things they have to do on behalf of the teams or endorsements don’t count as working days?

    • @huntermach7356
      @huntermach7356 4 місяці тому

      @@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen they're more like homeworks, but it's not like they work 8hrs in those 65 days.

    • @JLynuuh
      @JLynuuh 4 місяці тому

      @@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen oh my God commercials endorsements so hard 😢

    • @SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen
      @SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen 4 місяці тому

      @@JLynuuh no one said it was hard, but it is work.

    • @SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen
      @SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen 4 місяці тому

      @@huntermach7356 yeah no it isn’t. Also, you have no idea about their schedules because they do morning and afternoon practices….sounds like 8 hours of work to me. Not to mention training camps and other things they have to do.

  • @mxhughes
    @mxhughes 3 місяці тому +1

    Draymond is prime example why I mainly don't like this newer age athlete media because they're agenda driven to protect the player brotherhood from criticism WHEN THEY DO deserve it and to protect their fragile egos.They hide behind being ppl who "played the game" to act like their talking points are absolute when it's really the opposite for most of them

  • @dabossdafly
    @dabossdafly 4 місяці тому +2

    Tbh I think people are just so enamored with Joel's ability they want to ignore that he's always been injury prone. Health should factor into the value someone brings to their team.

  • @papa_albee7641
    @papa_albee7641 4 місяці тому

    Big facts, love the vids bro!

  • @dustinrhodes4793
    @dustinrhodes4793 4 місяці тому +2

    Must be hard having to work 65 days a year for 20, 30, 40, 50 million. What a tough life
    And NBA Awards are already a joke, Kobe and Shaq won one MVP each.

  • @YFDizzyTV
    @YFDizzyTV 4 місяці тому

    Quality content bro!

  • @KKOPPONG
    @KKOPPONG 4 місяці тому +3

    The NBA exists to entertain fans players getting paid is a side effect. The NBA should always prioritise the fans and spoiler, NOT A SINGLE FAN HAS COMPLAINED!!!

    • @asaptenebrae2240
      @asaptenebrae2240 4 місяці тому

      Not a single fan has complained ? I guess all the UA-camrs who make video to expose that are neither NBA not basketball fans ?
      And the decreasing ratings probably mean fans are happy with the current state of the NBA ?

    • @freeisalwaysme
      @freeisalwaysme 4 місяці тому

      Fans complained when black players were on the court. They got over it. Well most did

  • @Ramzzzes21
    @Ramzzzes21 4 місяці тому +1

    Aye love the new setup

  • @kriptxnic
    @kriptxnic 4 місяці тому +2

    "the speed of the nba..." mfs used to throw haymakers in the paint bro

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm from Michigan and my earliest basketball memories are of watching the Bad Boys Pistons win their championships. When I was a kid I thought you were _supposed_ to just clothesline anyone trying to drive to the rim. 😆

  • @Anon-qp3kt
    @Anon-qp3kt 4 місяці тому +1

    The NBA gave 17 rest days. Not including injuries. That’s pretty decent tbh

  • @oc3891
    @oc3891 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm still trying to see Jimmy Butler live, 3 years in a row the Heat have visited the Magic on or around my birthday. Wife and I have gone to this matchup with hopes to see him and some how he's being out each time. Last December once again they came on my birthday and he was out and my wife had a feeling this would happen and had gotten me another game in MIA next month against Utah. Fingers crossed a FOURTH TIME IS A CHARM 😅

    • @blank-vj1mc
      @blank-vj1mc 4 місяці тому +1

      Don’t you see you’re part of the problem? Stop buying tickets. Do you continue to buy products from any other company that has a 100% failure rate?

    • @oc3891
      @oc3891 4 місяці тому

      @@blank-vj1mc it's one player, at the end of the night I'm still watching a basketball game and having fun/rooting for the team I went to go watch once a year based on a lucky scheduling coincidence that they roll into town on my bday weekend, relax it wasn't that deep guy.

    • @blank-vj1mc
      @blank-vj1mc 4 місяці тому

      @@oc3891 Lmao classic pay piggy response. “It’s not that deep that I complained about wasting money just let me pay into a corrupt corporation”

    • @blank-vj1mc
      @blank-vj1mc 4 місяці тому

      @@oc3891 BTW, would you have ever w considered tickets if Jimmy Butler wasn’t on either team? No. Because you don’t want to watch to G league teams play for the ticket cost of an NBA game.

    • @oc3891
      @oc3891 4 місяці тому

      @@blank-vj1mc that high horse you are struggling to ride is giving that airhead of yours a nose bleed and it shows. No one cares to entertain whatever anti corpo agenda your woke self is trying to push lol it's cringe. I've been going to both Magic and Heat games since 01. Especially when one of those teams suck that year, tix are that much cheaper!
      "eVeRyOnE aRoUnD mE r ShEeP" lol yea sure, we get it kid, you're broke.

  • @vision2372
    @vision2372 4 місяці тому +1

    Imagine driving 3 hours paying hundreds of dollars to watch a player play and they sit out for no reason. These guys are straight scammers and have no empathy for the people who make there jobs possible

  • @biskaye
    @biskaye 4 місяці тому

    Great take low as soon as draymond brought up the kawhi thing i was skeptical too

  • @lifejusbe
    @lifejusbe 4 місяці тому

    THIS NEEDS TO BE SHARED

  • @SolaceMcfly
    @SolaceMcfly 3 місяці тому

    we are missing something huge here, its not just the players its also the ORGANIZATION who will sit players. The 65 game rule can punish players who are legit injured and can't play.

  • @Vcksn
    @Vcksn 4 місяці тому

    It’s crazy that a fan can pay $200 for a ticket to see their favorite player and the player is able to sit out of the game for “load management”. It makes you never wana go to another game

  • @kharipugh4940
    @kharipugh4940 3 місяці тому

    Where I work we get 2 call INS and we get fired on the 3rd one🤣

  • @CoachKeithRobinson
    @CoachKeithRobinson 4 місяці тому

    well this shows where the fans rank as a priority and the ppl who love the game will just have to accept it. Do i need the athletes to love their fans or even their job for me to support the game would be a more interesting conversation. Anyone who knows any professional athletes casually or personally? what would u say how they feel about fans?

  • @Topolinho
    @Topolinho 4 місяці тому +1

    Players being angry at the 65 game rule just shows why it exists. They WANT to miss games. Their whole mindset is rotten. They are just proving why the rule is a thing. If it wasn't there they would "load manage" every other game.

  • @tashrif46
    @tashrif46 4 місяці тому +2

    These players dont care about their fans at all.

  • @cyrillesu
    @cyrillesu 4 місяці тому +2

    8:45 "Is that the goal? To put the players in harm's way?"
    *Bro you're more harmful to the players than injuries 💀💀💀*

  • @outsidethematrix593
    @outsidethematrix593 4 місяці тому +1

    If Draymond loses a DPOY to a player who played significantly less games than him, he would be the first to champion the 65-game rule and discredit others

  • @reecenorwood8377
    @reecenorwood8377 4 місяці тому

    It seems that some players now don’t even WANT to play every game.

  • @Aerex12
    @Aerex12 4 місяці тому +1

    I am really curious with what MJ thinks about this load management thing

  • @Craigipedia
    @Craigipedia 4 місяці тому +1

    Playing the games should be a part of the game.