I really liked this vid. Really good review in layman's terms, especially letting the viewers know a new version/model coming out this year, which most would not know. I've seen some of your other vids, Really like the Japan fishing one recently, and seen you with Vic from landshark.....so I've subbed...also have seen some of Allen hawks reviews...he is one in-depth dude.....that's a good thing. Can't wait to catch up on your previous vids. Tight lines 😎
stella is crap.. the makaira is a better reel for hundreds less.. for many hundreds less, though heavier, the cabo will outlast the stella if I had to guess... for the money, the Ecooda Hornet is pretty damn good, actually, if all you are doing is vert jigging or live bait work.. just saying..
I paid $825 for my 14K shipped from Ottos Tackle in Australia. No play anywhere. Love the reel. Been slaying fish with it for a few years now and no issues.
I think that twin power is more interesting than stella because: 1) TP have aluminum body who is more unbreakable than stellas magnum body 2) price Good video, bro!
@@FishingReviews yes, for the business secret, Daiwa official wouldn't leak or authorize any store to re-fill the mag sealed. It is truely a suck problem.
You are so right about the areas on the Stella having play in them for the price point shouldn't be any play to be honest I have owned Shimano products and I was caught up in the Shimano hype until I touched a Daiwa... much more Superior product. The reels are built more solid have a sturdier feel have a more quality feel
Super thorough review. I especially liked where you went over the play in areas where you wouldn't expect it. That makes me wonder if the reel is as watertight as they claim it is. Also, the plastic parts. Interesting facts about the 30000 being the same components as the 20000 with only the outside components changing, I could see how that could wind up with gear damage, especially if your targeting monsters. Hope your Japan trip is going well. Take care. Until next time, tight lines & good vibes.
I have Saltiga 2015 model and Stella sw 2013 model.I have to say than saltiga feels like tank in all the ways.It also has better drag in smoothness .Stella is like plastic has play almost everywhere .It feels like a saragosa sw.I regretted buying stella over Saragosa.On the other hand Saltiga worth all the money i spend.
I am not sure if it has already been mentioned by somebody yet but the small amount of play disappears under load is most likely there for a calculated reason. Because all materials have a certain amount of flex/squish, and with the huge forces applied upon a spinning reel when fighting mega strong/heavy fish, that "play" allows gears to mesh better and things not to grind on themselves. Imagine it was made using ultra tight clearances between parts, then all that force is applied...the parts (especially meshing of gear teeth) would be actually pushing on each other and it would feel rougher, tighter & less smooth -than if the clearances were there to start with before loads are applied. Among other similar systems I installed motorcycle sprockets (chain drive gears) & chains for years as a motorcycle component technician and I would never install things that roll/move under heavy load super tightly, or with no room for "give". I have also installed and maintained many of Shimano's push bike gear systems- and there is engineered tolerances, movement & flex in these gear systems- that work under load also. Hope that might give you some answers? but yes cheap products do have unintentional "slop" between rolling/moving parts-Which seemingly similar in feeling when turned not under load, will not translate into less wear and smoother function when loaded up with the strain from some reef pig/pelagic donkey-like the movement/flex from the Stella SW would.
Nope, that not how things work under stress! High tolerances always been critical in precise components! I think engineers don't need that kind of tolerances in a reel, but for that money.. yeah!
From an understanding of metallurgy having a little bit of play in some of those parts will be a benefit because a part that is to stiff has a tendency to shatter
Shimano changed that angle on their new reels, including the 2013 Stella SW, in a somehow controversial move. The foot of the Stella is now parallel to the main shaft, something that has caused problems to a number of users, particularly of bigger sizes 18K and up. The new parallel foot of the Stella SW meant that on standard jigging and popping rods the line would come out of the reel at such a sharp angle it would not remain seated on the line roller, which causes line damage and a weird feel when reeling. Following many complaints and a few videos that were posted by European anglers showing the issue. Source Alan Hawk in the saltiga expedition review.
Listen, for big offshoe fishing such as marlin pitching or tuna, the 30000 is definitely worth it over the 20000. It is not much heavier than the 20000 and stacks much more line than it. I have 700 yards of 80lb on the braid and can last me for ages
Also the drag on the Stella’s is 55lbs. The 30000 has 44.1lbs of drag, although this is less. Who is going to use 44 lbs of drag. It is too much drag in the first place and I have never had to push either my 14000 or my 30000 especially as the 30000 stacks so much line
As a passionate fisherman i think price matters.I had a lot of fishing reels ,i use only spinning reels.Last year i bought Shimano Twin Power XD 5000 and i can tell you this is the best reel i ever owned.Definitely im looking forward on buying 2019 Stella.
It sounds like they are going cheaper on their parts for more profits! Knowing that people will still buy the reel because its made a good name in the fishing community!
I used to have a Stella 8000PG (the blue one from 1999), and does have some play indeed but it does not affect at all the fishing though. The smaller ones (I had a Stella 2000 FA), and it was great! one of the best I ever had (ok, the certate is also very good), but the wuality back then used to be much better...
Liked and subbed. Super informative and led to some sick fishing action from your vid library. As a super keen rock fisho and UA-camr in NZ. I use the Fin-nor offshore reel. Heavy reel, super solid, simple, and reliable. And cheap when compared to others. Highly recommend if you can handle the extra weight. Would be interested in your technical thoughts on the dogfight range though.
Great review, I know a guy who design's reels for a living I asked him about the Stella's and he recommend a reel a fraction of the price! He mentioned that the build on these reels for the price is pretty poor, he mentioned the gearing and materials used in the build should be a lot higher standard! I'm definitely a quality but value for money guy that way you don't have to worry about not being able to get parts after the reel has been discontinued you can just buy another one and the latest model great video thanks
@@loodytheleprican3079 it's the guy who has designed a lot of reels for ABU and is the main UK specialist for ABU, but the reel I'm talking about is a Akios MRV but now renamed as the Akios IRONLOOP but only available in one size unfortunately
Nothing can compare to the 08’ Stella. That thing was/still is a beast. The 2013 Stella didn’t live up to its expectations because of its predecessors magnitude in quality.
Saved up for my 20000 $ 1400.00! Its large and its on the heavy side but its drag is what I was after. I bought it to go with a popping rod for casting out to tuna. No complaints whatsoever. By far my biggest investment in a reel. Its my 5th shimano reel, Abu garcia are my others.
not sure if the parts you pointed out are plastic or not as a carp fisherman my Shimano aero technium reels have the Ci4 material which feels like plastic but is actually a alloy so it may be that
I've had a 10K Stella and I'd never buy one again. It's a really nice reel but I have multiple Saragosa's and for the price you can't go wrong. Save $1,000 and just get the Gosa
Can you please guide about the reel with following features 1. Long cast 2. Large capacity (min 300 meters for 0.6 mm line) 3. Sturdy atleast as fin nor or diawa BG
I own the 4000 8000 14000 Stella and I have zero buyers remorse, rinse them off the fresh water after every session and they're good to go every time 🤙🏾🤙🏾 The plastic you refer to are only shrouds on the Hagane body which is a cast aluminum composite according to shimano and in ten years time I reckon we'd be able to 3d print new components if anything wears out. Fast and furious 6 and dodge ball !
breathe and squeeze Like the Van Staals... Way overpriced and most are made in China. Too many VS fanboys here in Florida that don’t use em for their intended purpose
@@themagurofishermen9279 actually rich people are some of the cheapest, that's why they have their money. I like the reel, I've used my friend's, but I would never spend that amount on a reel. it ain't THAT much better.
I own a few "high end reels" - well worth the money in my opinion. Im not well off at all, I fish mainly salt water so spending the extra $$ on reels I know will last was worth the saving. I run Saltiga's though, not Stella's.
I'm perfectly happy with my Nasci and at the price I wouldn't be too mad having to buy another if I ever had to. Totally different class of reel but I don't even get as much mileage out of the gear I do have.
I use to be a Shimano fan but have switched to lessor price reels the problem I had was bearings would freeze up , I would send them back to Shimano factory they would charge only $ 25 never repaired but I would get a new reel every time great service but it takes about 3 weeks to get back. I would rinse after use and clean the best I could once I tried to take down to clean but my hands couldn't handle the little screws so I sent it to Shimano in a baggie they sent me a new reel WOW ! I now use Diawa and Tsunami and have had no issues.
Not being able to get parts after 10 years is crap. I've got a cherry Penn Jigmaster from 1962 I got on ebay for $50. I can still get every part for it (although it works flawlessly).
I bought a 20000 Stella 12 plus years ago and it is a precision piece of engineering, not a thou of play in any part, as smooth as can be. About 2 or 3 years ago I decided to fork out for a 5000 model. I was disappointed, play in every part. The round handle even spun off center, not even close to the precise engineering of my older model. Of course I kicked up a stink and had the handle replaced and let the sales person know what I thought. I do wonder if like many things in this world maybe Shimano are simply having these latest reels manufactured cheaper and relying on their name to keep their price. Kiwis can fly!
The play mentioned exists, but has been over exaggerated for the purpose of clickbaiting. You need to have a degree of backlash in the gearing for the reel to function properly. I have both a Stella and Saltiga and the latter does have slightly tighter back lash overall. I also have a spheros and saragosa and whilst they are great reels the drag systems are not in the same league as the top tier reels, and they have issues with the drag clicker, and the saragosa has a weird balancing issue in the 10k plus sizes. I also have a fin nor lethal lt100 which is a $100 reel and its fantastic for smoothness and has great drag. Each reel has a purpose, simply stating that someone should get x over y because y is lighter, is better sealed, or better drag isn't a good recommendation as you have to look at what that reel is going to be used for.
Thanks for the info. I have used Shimano for many years with good results but I will never drop a grand on a reel. We are a bit short of salt water up here in NW Arkansas. Thanks for the vid but now get your tail end back on the water and catch some fish...lol Always look forward to your next. Be safe and take care!
Got the opportunity of comparing the slammer high speed to the stella and this newer model doesn't compare to the slammer 3. Only thing was slammer was heavier/ bulkier
I can use rifles to probably explain the "play" in the reel. People don't like how "sloppy" the bolt of how any Mauser type rifle feels. Its wobbly and has a ton of play. Everybody prefers how smooth a bolt on a Tikka feels for example, with very little play. But that play is there for a reason, and when sand, mud and other grit get on that bolt, the Mauser will always operate as it was intended. The Tikka will not. I suspect the Stella is the same. If Shimano built it without, a single grain of sand could cause it to bind up.
I like Shimano except the price. Of all the alternatives you cited, which one is the best bang for the bucks ? I am leaning toward Okuma.. I am stepping up to tackle large giant tuna 200-400 lbs range.
Daiwa saltiga more robust.. More solid.. More cranking power.. More drag.. And more smooth than stella.. And less weight.. If you dont believe.. Buy saltiga and stella.. And fishing monster fish.. U can feel the different saltiga and stella..
For a $1500 hammerhead reel, I better get inconel stainless steel gears, 4340 steel shaft, gaskets and o rings everywhere, water proof to 30 feet certified, double sealed and super greased up tungsten bearings, forged 7075-T6 aluminum body, grade 5 titanium rotor, magnetic bail, double sealed triple Kevlar drag discs up to 70lbs, baked on chemical finish, ZERO play EVERYWHERE/ANYWHERE, no plastic/abs, my signature etched in the body and rotor, a 10 year transferable warranty, spare rotor and small parts.
When I use and/or exam their $200-$500 baitcasters, I can see the money. It makes sense. I just don’t see $1000 in the Stella. Never have. To each their own.
excellent comment my dear juno, I always dreamed of buying a reel estella sw, but thank you great comment on this, and stop dreaming and I will look for other options, such as you indicate or maybe, opt for van staal you can help me with your opinion about this brand of reels. thank you brother and greetings from Costa Rica 🇨🇷.
Juno, Enjoyed your assessment. I have a question I can't find an answer to; I have a Stella 2500S. Is it possible to put a different spool on it that would allow me to put more line on?
Yup, Daiwa Dogfight, Expedition or Penn Torque 2 all day. Still haven't seen the Makaira being sold, and I'm not a fan of the fixed handle like the Van Staals since I'm left-handed.
Hey, great video, very well thought out and presented. But, please stop saying "go ahead" and "went ahead". Those are usually fill in words that don't mean anything. "I'm going to go ahead and go to the store" vs "I am going to the store" See what I mean? I know it is a style of speaking that has taken over younger generations but it is very irritating to us old folks. Keep up the good work.
jbirdsall99 Good points! I’m always working on my public speaking, if you saw the amount of “takes” it required me to piece together a 15 min video, you’d laugh 😂
JunoRyan I work at shop in the US that sells both. A dogfight 8000h is $1099.00, and both the Stella18000SWBHG and 20k are $1259.00. A Saltiga 6500h is $999.95 / Stella 14000 is $1159.99 Hope that helps
Ok I'll take a shot, "Fast and Furious 6" and "Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story." Great vid Ryan, information packed, very professional, and I loved the movie inserts .... keep 'em coming!
There goes my dream of a Shimano Sponsorship 🤷🏽♂️ hope you doods like the video!
Brass is a decent material for gears it's semi self lubing. Just my 2¢.
I really liked this vid. Really good review in layman's terms, especially letting the viewers know a new version/model coming out this year, which most would not know. I've seen some of your other vids, Really like the Japan fishing one recently, and seen you with Vic from landshark.....so I've subbed...also have seen some of Allen hawks reviews...he is one in-depth dude.....that's a good thing. Can't wait to catch up on your previous vids. Tight lines 😎
you talking about Shimano Stella all the time
and you're showing the picture of "okuma makaira"
stella is crap.. the makaira is a better reel for hundreds less.. for many hundreds less, though heavier, the cabo will outlast the stella if I had to guess... for the money, the Ecooda Hornet is pretty damn good, actually, if all you are doing is vert jigging or live bait work.. just saying..
Yeah but Daiwa will love you for this. lol
I paid $825 for my 14K shipped from Ottos Tackle in Australia. No play anywhere. Love the reel. Been slaying fish with it for a few years now and no issues.
I agree with you on the plastic bits, even if it's for weight saving, it'd be better if they were metal, or at least covered with thin metal.
I think that twin power is more interesting than stella because:
1) TP have aluminum body who is more unbreakable than stellas magnum body
2) price
Good video, bro!
Twin Power is a piece of junk! Catalina is so much better at a similar price
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Why do you think so?
Daiwas reels have a lot of problems for extreme fishing. For example mag sealed
@@FishingReviews yes, for the business secret, Daiwa official wouldn't leak or authorize any store to re-fill the mag sealed. It is truely a suck problem.
You are so right about the areas on the Stella having play in them for the price point shouldn't be any play to be honest I have owned Shimano products and I was caught up in the Shimano hype until I touched a Daiwa... much more Superior product. The reels are built more solid have a sturdier feel have a more quality feel
Super thorough review. I especially liked where you went over the play in areas where you wouldn't expect it. That makes me wonder if the reel is as watertight as they claim it is. Also, the plastic parts. Interesting facts about the 30000 being the same components as the 20000 with only the outside components changing, I could see how that could wind up with gear damage, especially if your targeting monsters. Hope your Japan trip is going well. Take care. Until next time, tight lines & good vibes.
thanks brother! It's tough to make engaging content changing locations all the time but I'm still trying!
I have Saltiga 2015 model and Stella sw 2013 model.I have to say than saltiga feels like tank in all the ways.It also has better drag in smoothness .Stella is like plastic has play almost everywhere .It feels like a saragosa sw.I regretted buying stella over Saragosa.On the other hand Saltiga worth all the money i spend.
I am not sure if it has already been mentioned by somebody yet but the small amount of play disappears under load is most likely there for a calculated reason. Because all materials have a certain amount of flex/squish, and with the huge forces applied upon a spinning reel when fighting mega strong/heavy fish, that "play" allows gears to mesh better and things not to grind on themselves. Imagine it was made using ultra tight clearances between parts, then all that force is applied...the parts (especially meshing of gear teeth) would be actually pushing on each other and it would feel rougher, tighter & less smooth -than if the clearances were there to start with before loads are applied. Among other similar systems I installed motorcycle sprockets (chain drive gears) & chains for years as a motorcycle component technician and I would never install things that roll/move under heavy load super tightly, or with no room for "give". I have also installed and maintained many of Shimano's push bike gear systems- and there is engineered tolerances, movement & flex in these gear systems- that work under load also. Hope that might give you some answers? but yes cheap products do have unintentional "slop" between rolling/moving parts-Which seemingly similar in feeling when turned not under load, will not translate into less wear and smoother function when loaded up with the strain from some reef pig/pelagic donkey-like the movement/flex from the Stella SW would.
Nope, that not how things work under stress! High tolerances always been critical in precise components! I think engineers don't need that kind of tolerances in a reel, but for that money.. yeah!
"It's the man behind the rod that catches the fish, not the rod."
I prefer my saltiga expedition over my Stella 14k but both are top notch spinners and I think the drag is superior on the saltiga also
aLLsTaR*617* At least you know what you’re talking about ;)
That’s why I went with the Exist. I love the fact it has the magseal. Since I fish Saltwater.
From an understanding of metallurgy having a little bit of play in some of those parts will be a benefit because a part that is to stiff has a tendency to shatter
Love the review and also appreciate your honesty
Choverine you’re the man!
I can get behind this. A Stradic is all the reel I need. I've nearly made the 10 to 1 club with them.
Love the review. Never used one but would agree with every point u made.
Shimano changed that angle on their new reels, including the 2013 Stella SW, in a somehow controversial move. The foot of the Stella is now parallel to the main shaft, something that has caused problems to a number of users, particularly of bigger sizes 18K and up. The new parallel foot of the Stella SW meant that on standard jigging and popping rods the line would come out of the reel at such a sharp angle it would not remain seated on the line roller, which causes line damage and a weird feel when reeling. Following many complaints and a few videos that were posted by European anglers showing the issue. Source Alan Hawk in the saltiga expedition review.
Never had any issues with any of my shimano stuff including my stella
Dude ...it was a perfect review...cant be as straight forward as this one ...thanks a lot
Hi Ryan....thx for the advice. Happy belated New Year and may u catch many more this year. Can't wait to see. 🍻🎣
Listen, for big offshoe fishing such as marlin pitching or tuna, the 30000 is definitely worth it over the 20000. It is not much heavier than the 20000 and stacks much more line than it. I have 700 yards of 80lb on the braid and can last me for ages
Also the drag on the Stella’s is 55lbs. The 30000 has 44.1lbs of drag, although this is less. Who is going to use 44 lbs of drag. It is too much drag in the first place and I have never had to push either my 14000 or my 30000 especially as the 30000 stacks so much line
As a passionate fisherman i think price matters.I had a lot of fishing reels ,i use only spinning reels.Last year i bought Shimano Twin Power XD 5000 and i can tell you this is the best reel i ever owned.Definitely im looking forward on buying 2019 Stella.
You'll like the Stella if you like the Twinpower, it is a significant upgrade mechanically.
It sounds like they are going cheaper on their parts for more profits! Knowing that people will still buy the reel because its made a good name in the fishing community!
Excellent video also the Van Stall video the same,both very informative and helpful
One day, i will have that one beautiful shimano stella.
You deserve so many more subs man, best fishing channel on UA-cam in my opinion.
I used to have a Stella 8000PG (the blue one from 1999), and does have some play indeed but it does not affect at all the fishing though. The smaller ones (I had a Stella 2000 FA), and it was great! one of the best I ever had (ok, the certate is also very good), but the wuality back then used to be much better...
Yep.
Got my SW for $940 and that was on Sale !!!
Apart from that. No complaints 👍
The tighter everything is leads to more thing that could go wrong (ie gears/bearings and such). There should be "some" play.
I love fishing but I don't love it that much to spend a k on 1 reel. Really enjoy watching your videos.
Get a Daiwa Saltiga if you are looking to buy a top of the line reel, they are much better!
Liked and subbed. Super informative and led to some sick fishing action from your vid library.
As a super keen rock fisho and UA-camr in NZ. I use the Fin-nor offshore reel. Heavy reel, super solid, simple, and reliable. And cheap when compared to others. Highly recommend if you can handle the extra weight.
Would be interested in your technical thoughts on the dogfight range though.
Fantastic review, thanks. Please review the new 2019 version!!
Great review, I know a guy who design's reels for a living I asked him about the Stella's and he recommend a reel a fraction of the price! He mentioned that the build on these reels for the price is pretty poor, he mentioned the gearing and materials used in the build should be a lot higher standard! I'm definitely a quality but value for money guy that way you don't have to worry about not being able to get parts after the reel has been discontinued you can just buy another one and the latest model great video thanks
What was the reel he recommended
@@loodytheleprican3079 it's the guy who has designed a lot of reels for ABU and is the main UK specialist for ABU, but the reel I'm talking about is a Akios MRV but now renamed as the Akios IRONLOOP but only available in one size unfortunately
Nothing can compare to the 08’ Stella. That thing was/still is a beast. The 2013 Stella didn’t live up to its expectations because of its predecessors magnitude in quality.
I was a big fan of the 08 version after they fixed the line roller issues.
Saved up for my 20000 $ 1400.00! Its large and its on the heavy side but its drag is what I was after. I bought it to go with a popping rod for casting out to tuna. No complaints whatsoever. By far my biggest investment in a reel. Its my 5th shimano reel, Abu garcia are my others.
Can’t beat the drags on Stellas👌🏼
not sure if the parts you pointed out are plastic or not as a carp fisherman my Shimano aero technium reels have the Ci4 material which feels like plastic but is actually a alloy so it may be that
I have a Ci4 reel. It's a work of art!
This guys a goof like trump's review of a stella lmao
I've had a 10K Stella and I'd never buy one again. It's a really nice reel but I have multiple Saragosa's and for the price you can't go wrong. Save $1,000 and just get the Gosa
10k?? Surely you meant 1k !
Pak De as in 10k, he means the 10000 version
Just a recommendation, look at the camera.
ShipMonster look at his right eye, he is looking at you
Mexico needs to start making knock off fishing reels. $600 Stella SW
China*
I found you video very honest thanks for your review!!!!
Slammer 3 is the go to Imo good gears good drag very good durability all metal but probably weighs alot more.
Can you please guide about the reel with following features
1. Long cast
2. Large capacity (min 300 meters for 0.6 mm line)
3. Sturdy atleast as fin nor or diawa BG
I own the 4000 8000 14000 Stella and I have zero buyers remorse, rinse them off the fresh water after every session and they're good to go every time 🤙🏾🤙🏾
The plastic you refer to are only shrouds on the Hagane body which is a cast aluminum composite according to shimano and in ten years time I reckon we'd be able to 3d print new components if anything wears out.
Fast and furious 6 and dodge ball !
Entering their 38th year my BG15 and BG60 are still going strong lots of salt. I hope I can out live them and get something a bit tighter someday.
I got a daiwa saltiga. I feel like overall its a better design then a stella.
New here, thanks for the info on that reel. I use mostly Shimano reels and love them all, some from the early 90s and they all still work great.
Love this video. Do the same kind of video on the 2019 Stella when it comes out.
no frikkin' reel is worth $1000. but, people like to overpay for things. people with $$ like to brag about how expensive their toys were.
breathe and squeeze Like the Van Staals... Way overpriced and most are made in China. Too many VS fanboys here in Florida that don’t use em for their intended purpose
I would buy a reel for 1000$ to catch a blue fin worth lots more
And poor cheap people like to hate. If you like it and want it, then buy it. Don't worry about what others.
@@themagurofishermen9279 actually rich people are some of the cheapest, that's why they have their money. I like the reel, I've used my friend's, but I would never spend that amount on a reel. it ain't THAT much better.
I own a few "high end reels" - well worth the money in my opinion. Im not well off at all, I fish mainly salt water so spending the extra $$ on reels I know will last was worth the saving. I run Saltiga's though, not Stella's.
A higher tolerance?? You mean less tolerance.
Digging the channel new sub. Advice tho, your looking at the wrong part of the camera just helping
7 years good luck to you and your family if you can name the two movies in today’s video 👌🏼
Fast & Furious, Dodgeball...classics
Great review/opinion, i Was contemplating the Stella 6000
I'm perfectly happy with my Nasci and at the price I wouldn't be too mad having to buy another if I ever had to. Totally different class of reel but I don't even get as much mileage out of the gear I do have.
I feel for you
Do u look at the camera screen and not your lens?
Yes
I use to be a Shimano fan but have switched to lessor price reels the problem I had was bearings would freeze up , I would send them back to Shimano factory they would charge only $ 25 never repaired but I would get a new reel every time great service but it takes about 3 weeks to get back. I would rinse after use and clean the best I could once I tried to take down to clean but my hands couldn't handle the little screws so I sent it to Shimano in a baggie they sent me a new reel WOW !
I now use Diawa and Tsunami and have had no issues.
I guess I can pay rent this month...
Not being able to get parts after 10 years is crap. I've got a cherry Penn Jigmaster from 1962 I got on ebay for $50. I can still get every part for it (although it works flawlessly).
I have a Stella 8000H, didn't know it's not spool swappable with the 10k and 14k.
I bought a 20000 Stella 12 plus years ago and it is a precision piece of engineering, not a thou of play in any part, as smooth as can be. About 2 or 3 years ago I decided to fork out for a 5000 model. I was disappointed, play in every part. The round handle even spun off center, not even close to the precise engineering of my older model. Of course I kicked up a stink and had the handle replaced and let the sales person know what I thought. I do wonder if like many things in this world maybe Shimano are simply having these latest reels manufactured cheaper and relying on their name to keep their price. Kiwis can fly!
The play mentioned exists, but has been over exaggerated for the purpose of clickbaiting. You need to have a degree of backlash in the gearing for the reel to function properly. I have both a Stella and Saltiga and the latter does have slightly tighter back lash overall. I also have a spheros and saragosa and whilst they are great reels the drag systems are not in the same league as the top tier reels, and they have issues with the drag clicker, and the saragosa has a weird balancing issue in the 10k plus sizes. I also have a fin nor lethal lt100 which is a $100 reel and its fantastic for smoothness and has great drag. Each reel has a purpose, simply stating that someone should get x over y because y is lighter, is better sealed, or better drag isn't a good recommendation as you have to look at what that reel is going to be used for.
Thanks for the info. I have used Shimano for many years with good results but I will never drop a grand on a reel. We are a bit short of salt water up here in NW Arkansas. Thanks for the vid but now get your tail end back on the water and catch some fish...lol Always look forward to your next. Be safe and take care!
I always look forward to your comments Rick! Thanks for the continued support my friend.
Nice I need a guy like you to watch I like to buy good stuff I’ve bought some reels that are not so good but I’ll be checking your vids out 👍🏼
Juno I like to see a video on the Penn spenfisher reel now I would like to see that
Got the opportunity of comparing the slammer high speed to the stella and this newer model doesn't compare to the slammer 3. Only thing was slammer was heavier/ bulkier
I can use rifles to probably explain the "play" in the reel. People don't like how "sloppy" the bolt of how any Mauser type rifle feels. Its wobbly and has a ton of play. Everybody prefers how smooth a bolt on a Tikka feels for example, with very little play. But that play is there for a reason, and when sand, mud and other grit get on that bolt, the Mauser will always operate as it was intended. The Tikka will not. I suspect the Stella is the same. If Shimano built it without, a single grain of sand could cause it to bind up.
Jason's Fishing Again? Great explanation and one I’m going to borrow 👍
I have heard the same about Kalashnikov rifles.
I like Shimano except the price. Of all the alternatives you cited, which one is the best bang for the bucks ? I am leaning toward Okuma.. I am stepping up to tackle large giant tuna 200-400 lbs range.
That's why okuma left out the fresh water fishing cause their stuff ain't making the cut
Daiwa saltiga more robust.. More solid.. More cranking power.. More drag.. And more smooth than stella.. And less weight.. If you dont believe.. Buy saltiga and stella.. And fishing monster fish.. U can feel the different saltiga and stella..
It’s a SW model therefore you should expect more plastics than metal to reduce saltwater corrosion
Saragosa sw is the way to go 🤙🏽
Take a Penn Slammer 3 anyday. I don’t mind dropping it and slamming it against rocks. $180 on Amazon, saving lots of money for gas and other gear.
I would much rather have marine grade brass than hardened steel. Do you have any idea how harsh and unsmooth it would feel with hardened steel?!
if there was gt in my country I would go without hesitation for a saltiga expedition 8000
Why not buy the new saltiga? The expedition and dogfight are discontinued now.
Got enough line on that reel?
I can’t afford one anyway 😂
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me two
Buy what you can and enjoy
@@mrcina8621 yes im on my way
I’m just here for the title “The shimano stella is great don’t buy it”.
most people buy the newest iphone for a grand every year but think buying a real for a grand that will last a lifetime is insane
Very objective opinion
For a $1500 hammerhead reel, I better get inconel stainless steel gears, 4340 steel shaft, gaskets and o rings everywhere, water proof to 30 feet certified, double sealed and super greased up tungsten bearings, forged 7075-T6 aluminum body, grade 5 titanium rotor, magnetic bail, double sealed triple Kevlar drag discs up to 70lbs, baked on chemical finish, ZERO play EVERYWHERE/ANYWHERE, no plastic/abs, my signature etched in the body and rotor, a 10 year transferable warranty, spare rotor and small parts.
So whats your fav reel right now den?
No love for the accurate twin spins?
Why aren't you looking at the camera ? is this a technique?
When I use and/or exam their $200-$500 baitcasters, I can see the money. It makes sense. I just don’t see $1000 in the Stella. Never have. To each their own.
excellent comment my dear juno, I always dreamed of buying a reel estella sw, but thank you great comment on this, and stop dreaming and I will look for other options, such as you indicate or maybe, opt for van staal you can help me with your opinion about this brand of reels. thank you brother and greetings from Costa Rica 🇨🇷.
Juno, Enjoyed your assessment. I have a question I can't find an answer to; I have a Stella 2500S. Is it possible to put a different spool on it that would allow me to put more line on?
want to buy the SHIMANO Trevala 5'8 XXH for off shore lighter fishing . 30 lbs snapper . which stella reel should I pair with it?
Hi sir juno what reel is the best to buy.
Prefer saltiga
Why buy a Stella when you could get a VS275 and a custom rod
The fin-nor off shore is a tank unbreakable in my opinion
Yup, Daiwa Dogfight, Expedition or Penn Torque 2 all day. Still haven't seen the Makaira being sold, and I'm not a fan of the fixed handle like the Van Staals since I'm left-handed.
All great reels, all have their pros and cons
Hey, great video, very well thought out and presented. But, please stop saying "go ahead" and "went ahead". Those are usually fill in words that don't mean anything. "I'm going to go ahead and go to the store" vs "I am going to the store" See what I mean? I know it is a style of speaking that has taken over younger generations but it is very irritating to us old folks. Keep up the good work.
jbirdsall99 Good points! I’m always working on my public speaking, if you saw the amount of “takes” it required me to piece together a 15 min video, you’d laugh 😂
So what did Alan actually think of the 2019 Stella ? his review wasn't specific about if it was ultimately an improvement over the 2013?
david k Read the review on a desk top computer. For some reason you can’t read all of it on a smartphone.
The worst part about buying a Shimano reel is accepting that you should have bought a Daiwa instead.
Diawa lmao that's why their ballistic on ebay has a price drop of 50-70 bucks while the stradic is still at low 200
The daiwa dogfight and the saltiga are more expencive than the stella
DAIWA CATALINA 😉
Shiiit you’re right they are in US markets. Fun fact, out here in Japan the Daiwas are actually cheaper than the Stellas.
a 30k stella costs as much if not more than a dogfight. here in australia anyway.
JunoRyan I work at shop in the US that sells both. A dogfight 8000h is $1099.00, and both the Stella18000SWBHG and 20k are $1259.00. A Saltiga 6500h is $999.95 / Stella 14000 is $1159.99
Hope that helps
JunoRyan Not more than the Exist. The Exist is more expensive in Japan and the U.S.
1600 dollars here in AUSTRILIA IN some stores to 13000 dollars , I own the stella 18000surf reel 2020
I agree the Stella is a purty reel
Ok I'll take a shot, "Fast and Furious 6" and "Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story." Great vid Ryan, information packed, very professional, and I loved the movie inserts .... keep 'em coming!
Thanks Bob!
Why Stella 2019 just have 3 sizes for SW?8000,10000&14000..any idea?
That’s a pretty disappointing review lol. If i ever fished for extreme big game I would probably just get a saragosa, the new spinfisher, or a saltist
Yeah I think you're right. I can't picture Shimano putting cheap plastic parts on $1,000 reel Ci-4 it's actually pretty durable.
I have all 3. Ive owned alot of high end reels and I love penn. I love Diawa. I hate shimano. Dont forget the slammer 3 btw - beast spinner.
this man not looking at the camera but a skript