Absolutely love your reviews, very thorough and you share personal experience along with your technical understanding of fishing reels. Keep up the great work!
😳I’m sure I could take it all apart. Putting it back together is another story. Such an impressive display of fishing knowledge, mechanical skills, and product knowledge. A lot to learn here besides reel comparison.
@@RyanMorie Your videos are fantastic ! Ryan keep it up really ! I have a question to ask, what would you put on the Palms xxh106 ? A saragosa 8000 or 14 000 ? Also a 4500hs slammer iv or 6500hs slammer iv ?
Good review ? No. It's a terrific review ! I'm in the market for a spinning reel and this video has helped me immensely. I have looked at the Stella and was shocked when I saw the price tag. I don't see that as a fair trade for my money. Some folks would think the price as a good value and God bless them. I wonder what the odds are regarding total sales of each reel. 10-1, 5-1, 20-1? Anyway thank you for your effort. BTW I think Alan Hawk is a wonderful writer and smart guy. God Bless.
Solid honest review Ryan. You covered a bunch just from watching the videos of you catching a wide variety of fish. I've actually talked on the surf about what you have conquered with this reel which was impressive to say the least for $300. The parts and service from shimano is a huge deal breaker in its class.
This was a great review. Actually recently purchased a new SW8000 at the Pacific Outdoors show in Costa Mesa over the weekend. Have yet to try it out. Thanks for the excellent video Ryan!
Hey, I love how you break the reel down and show the components. I'm terrified about taking my reels apart. I think you sold me. Next reel I'm looking at will be the Saragosa SW. I like this type of video. Keep it up.
Wow , that’s a true review from unbiased n unsponsered guy , i’d take ur words over AH anytime , i have almost all shimano reels 3 stellas down to sonora , durable as hell n i’m tough on my gears , casting allday long 7:10 hrs is nothing but tough tasks for any spinning reel to stand for . Stella is the real king but yes it is way expensive ,agaiin so the saltiga and they wont going to reduce their price down as long as we keep buy them.
I think a key thing to consider is usage. If you are going to be beating the crap out of the reel using it on shore etc, the Stella makes sense. I am purchasing the gosa for tuna jigging off LI where 80% of our time is spent trolling. Great video Ryan!
Very impressive review and review style. I am a shimano guy and have been for many years. I personally find the quality of the Stradic, Ultegra XTD, Saragosa and Spheros very good for the price point and would much rather have 3 or 4 reels for my $1000. I would be one that would enjoy watching you put that Saragosa back together!!
Jiss dude... a review with a disassembly 😱 insane amount of effort put into it... i really enjoyed it and could be helpful with the disassembly part as well... Awesome vid
Fantastic. A video worth viewing. God bless. I often watch a lot of your videos but never thought of subscribing. Today I did as you work really really very very hard to come at this level. Thanks from Antonio, from Goa, India.
Thank you for a splendid review. I will go for the 6000 SW A. It will fullfil my needs for a good, light allrounder when it comes to a SW-spinning reel. I fish in Norway and Portugal, jigging, pilking or casting poppers and stickbaits.
Great review! The taking apart part is awesome (tackle advisors style). What I didn't like is that your room was a bit on the dark side, extra light would be nice. Other than that a perfect review and would love to see more of these. Just ordered a 14000 Gossa btw ...
Love the tackle reviews! I'm a huge tackle nerd and watch/read whatever I can on reels like like. I even bought a saltiga expedition and a saragosa SWA 10k after your videos lol Keep up the great content
Thanks for a very convincing review/comparison on Saragosa SW-A and Stella spinning reels. Especially appreciated you pointing out the anti=reverse being found in the 18000 models and above. BOL Tight Lines...
Having a 6000 for micro jigging and dead baiting domersals, a 10,000 for jigging pelagic‘s and a 20,000 for live baiting. All for less than the price of one Stella option, I’ll go the Gosa any day of the week! Awesome review mate!
@@hldemi_fishing agreed mate the 6000 is a beast of a real but I have had some interesting bi catches micro jigging and dead baiting including big kingfish and blue groper I prefer to have the guts of the 6000 in case I need it
Hi, Great video and also great knowledge. I have a Daiwa BG Mq 6000 and a Shimano Saragosa 6000 in front of me and tried to make it out which one is better. Now I know which one I'll send back. 😅 Thank you a lot. Tight lines.
Like and subscribed BUT let me say why it was ALMOST a great video. First, I was guessing the entire time if this was a 10,000 size reel. I never saw it on the spool and you never mentioned the size. I assume it was because you did mention the gear ratio. I really did like the video but if you could confirm your rod and reel setup that you had paired in the video I would appreciate it very much. Thanks and I look forward to more
Nice review, you nailed it. On Shimano and Daiwa’s website they talk about Hagane gear blah blah to lure people money. I have 10 years old reel and they still perform. I believe these companies are enjoying fisher man money more than actual fisher man enjoying catching fish. Only few people catch good fish and not all but every one spends a lot of money on buying latest and greatest rods and reels.
I love how you casually go out to test it by catching trophy fish! I just got my 25K in the mail, going to test it out in Destin this weekend, pretty stoked!
hey man I'm thinking about buying the saragosa but the reviews I see aren't that good with people getting used/broken reels, did the reel work out for you?
@@Richard-rr6ze Hey sorry man, I woke up to use the bathroom and quickly replied to that comment. I got mine from BassPro, strictly for the points and whatnot. What size are you thinking of going with? I went all out on the 25K, eventually I was going to need it, but it is quite large. I'll probably get one or two more in the 4500-5000 range, or the new Shimano Twin Power. Also those vanfords replaced the very popular CI4 and those have amazing reviews, I hope to grab one of those sometime in the future. Let me know what you decide on!
Appreciate your review. I am buying one of these first quarter 2025. I was already using the Stella as the benchmark but leaning toward the Saragossa for many of the reasons you stated. I’ll double check updates on both last three years then purchase. Thanks Much.
Newbie subscriber but LONGTIME fisherman. Great videos and you definitely know your stuff. I will be purchasing a Gosa SW A as soon as I get back to the US from Mexico in October. Do you have the dimensions for the low friction washer (11:02)? I want to replace it with a sealed ball bearing but cannot obtain one as they are backordered from Shimano (PN: 10TG8). By-the-way, Shimano calls it a spacer. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.
Great review… based on this and Alan’s review I bought a 10,000 and 25,000. I do have several Shimano and Daiwa reels. But, this seems to be the best all-arounder that I can lend to guests or use as a backup for tuna fishing. Living in Japan, I can buyTwin Powers or Certates for around $100 more than a Saragosa. Given the close pricing,which would you choose?
Solid review and honest. One of the best reels I own and you will never have to worry because it’s just that well made. I don’t own a Stella but I own the tranx 500 and a Trinidad and you definitely get what you pay for from shimano. The best about shimano is if you do need it fixed they’re warranty is send it in and you get it back brand new. Literally I took my Calcutta in and the just gave me a new one. It does help to live in Orange County since there in Irvine
I should also clarify I’m a fellow Florida fisherman, I just torture myself with using 2500/3000 sized reels for majority of my fishing. I am primarily a shore based fisherman and I’ll walk miles of beach in naples and cast all day so the smaller reels take away some muscle fatigue
@@Drpepperkiller1017 i had both casting all day. Clash failed less than under a year but the slammer 3 3500 still going strong for 2 years now. Shimano Vanford gets my vote vs Ballistic or Ballistic MQ. And if i will be wade fishing as well i might give Saltist MQ 2k or 3k a try.
The new 8000 still have the same annoying wobble in the rotor. It looks like you have the 10 000 which have the same rotor as the 8000. The wobble is less noticeable on the 10 000 because of the lower gear ratio (slower rotation speed)
@@jeremylewis8316It's a feature. Not too wobbly on the 14000 suprisingly. This, and the Spheros SW/ Stradic SW all have it. Excellent big game reels for the price. If your after smoothness and no wobbling just get a expensive daiwa.
@@RyanMorie well it’s beautiful, machined, simple, waterproof (which i dont care im using it in fresh and it wont be swimming) has a great drag and line capacity and is super lightweight. BUT, made in china bothers me. Im probably goin for a saltiga 4500
My favorite offshore Shimano reel is actually the TwinPower. I've owned Stella's but the TwinPower feels more solid. It's definitely heavier but it feels stronger.
It does feel good but technically it's not stronger than a Gosa. The old Stella (SWA, SWB) is a totally different reel, the SWC isn't. The rotor and the anti reverse of the older Stellas play in a different league. Now only the Makaira Spinning and the Saltiga are true big game spinners in current production.
I actually just picked up my gosa the other day for a birthday present to myself 🤣 put her on a 7 ft med heavy action ter rod. Got a calissa surf lure to set out for her maiden cast
I have both Saragosa and 2015 Stella SW1000SZ. They both have served me well. After the Stella brings in a 100lb yft I get frustrating bail closer on the following cast. Now I know why.. but no issues with stopping them from top water casting. However the Gosa gets really hot when almost, I mean almost getting spooled, but no premature flip bail. I need durability out there on the north Pacific Both reels has never been dunked but a simple wash and wipe down after use and stored there in warm climate I used them every 4-6months for 4 years on my return. serviced twice for re greasing and bail trip/flexing. looking at Penn slammer IV Don't want to break my arm. Any idea the weight on the 6500h.(hidden files)Why dont they come with beveled spool. No brainer1!!!!! I dont need all that friction in my life.
I love all your vids and your professionalism. I'll be picking up the Saragosa 5000 sw-a. I'm looking for a surf casting rod for bait casting/big poppers. Im looking for a med/fast action surf casting rod in 9'or10' that would match with saragosa 5000 sw-a What is the surf casting rod in your video, a Rod in the med/fast 9' or 10' would be great Also a boat rod casting for mahimahi or tuna. Your advice is greatly appreciated Thx.
What can you upgrade on the reel to make it like a Stella? Maybe a video of certain upgrades you can do to the reel to make it closer to the Stella. Ie changing to a bearing in the knob…
The 2008 Stella SWA did have the all metal anti reverse already and I believe even the 2001 FA. The anti reverse in the SWC, Saragosa, Spheros, Twin power, and even many recently produced budget reels was in the 1998 and maybe even the first 1993 Stella.
It only makes a difference in high drag uses, cause both types live extremely long, the difference is simply that while both last extremely long extremely long when fished within they're healthy range, it's that range of drag pressure. The anti reverse in the old Stella(very similar to the anti reverse in the Saltiga and Makaira) has an almost unlimited range while the one in the new Stella, Saragosa etc. Is much more limited. Point is that both types will perform identically (even though the one with the plastic housing feels kinda spungy and less solid) until the lesser one is pushed to, or beyond it's limits, then the all metal system will be superior since it's stronger. BTW: The two anti reverse systems are basically the same, both use metal (SS) break cylinders and metal (SS)springs which won't wear out like the standard plastic V springs. The difference between the two anti reverse systems we are talkin' about here is that the all metal anti reverse has an metal frame which is directly fitted into the reels frame (plastic in the Gosa, metal in the Stella) while the cheaper version has a plastic housing which is simply screwed down to the frame of the reel. Again, both systems work the same, but one has an extremely solid connection without any weak points and the other is simpler and cheaper but just as effective as long you don't push it too far. This is also why the new Stella has a lesser drag output then the old ones (real drag, shimanos claims are rubbish)
Ryan, very informative video. I just purchased the Sargussa 18000 HG… I will use it for pitching , flat line and drop to the bottom from time to time. I fish in South fla. Wahoo, mahi and mutton. How would you spool?
I’d fish it with 65lb braid. It’ll probably fit around 550 yards. You can add a top-shot of varying size monofilament depending on the situation. (Connect your braid to your mini top-shot with an FG knot for best results)
To fish well you need to be confident you have an advantage on the fish, this is what keeps you concentrating on your game from 1st to last cast of the day, the knowing if a fish comes by you know how and have what it takes to catch it, this advantage, this confidence you build in yourself comes from either or both your knowledge and technique and from having good gear, confidence comes at a high price for some, in this times more expensive is better, not all people look anymore at value for money, who knows if they came with something much more expensive than Stella they might sell like mini bread loafs. Saragosa priced to sell, Stella priced to make larger profit on smaller numbers. Not all my reels are sealed however I rarely have issues with salt and corrosion. (apart from BG's sticky drag knob and Stradic's noisy roller guides) a good rinse and once a year open clean and grease keeps them going forever. Some sites sell all wearable parts which are easy to replace. I must say that having boat in Florida fishing all year round brings maintenance time higher once you gone through the Centaur slow pitch jigging, Saragosa sw speed jigging, the BG's live bait surface , the Speedmaster's wrecks fishing , the Stradic FJ 8000 (rare) surface stick bait and popping reels, the Tyrnos trolling reels, the Stradic FI (yes still going strong) bass fishing, new Stradic SW shore fishing, add to that I like to have at least a couple so I can take along friends who don't have thier own gear, add to that the odd reels picked up here and there as travel souvenirs and piled in the big box with hundreds of unused untested lures for which you always think you found them the perfect job until you purchase the appropriate reel for the job, plus soon I hope the deep drop reels which luckily will also serve as kite reels, once you've done them all a year has passed and you can start again from beginning. Full time job...haha It seems I am very much a 200 to 300$ reel king of guy, I think for what fish we have here most shimano's mid-range do the job no problem and for long time. The BG's are my cheapest but I like that on the 5000 at 100 bucks you can put a lot of line which is great for sailfish, I am thinking the new Saragosa's should replace them soon. I should think of something else, real obsession...
Thanks for the video & for the in depth description of my next reel. Just one question..what is the brand of that SURF ROD you are using with the saragosa sw in this video? It looks a very sweet set-up! Thanks again!!
@@RyanMorie Thank you for the quick reply! I heard a lot of good things with Phenix blanks. Too bad we dont have that here in MI. Will watch more of your vidz & u got a new subscriber! Thanks again!
What are the specs on that rod? I am very interested in which guides it has and the distance from reel to stripper guide. I have been having a hard time laying out my custom rod to eliminate line slap with a saragosa 18000.
Can you install the crank handle on the right side on a Saragosa sw10000? All the pictures i saw, the crank handle is installed oh the left side. thanks
What braid for the 18000? Just got mine and I'm leaning towards 65lb for casting stickbaits, figure I'll get more distance with each throw plus more capacity compared to 80lb. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
I have 65 on my Spheros 18000 with the target species mainly being sharks from shore. If I were casting big plugs around structure I would go 80 or 100t though. Just really situationally dependent
I just picked up the 10000 primarily for throwing jigs up to 6oz but 3oz 90% of the time. The 10000 is a big reel so I THOUGHT I was going back for the 8000. Checking specs right now I may go to the 6000 or possibly even the 5000. The 6 can carry 290/30 PP and the 5 carries 225/30 PP. but the reels weigh the same essentially. The use of smaller set ups has come a long way. In the past light tackled killed a lot fish because it took so long to land them. Now even the lighter reels can can get a fish to the boat quickly enough. Sometimes I don’t think rods have kept up with reels.
The 8k is on the same platform as the 10k so it’ll fish very similarly. I’d go with the the 6k if you want something lighter. The 6k and the 5k are practically the same too
@@RyanMorie haha.. I went back to the b&t today and told the guy I’d like to check out the 7000. I’m sure you know what I mean. It would be nice to know what Shimano has against the number “7” ???? I’ve got two older Stratics. Older but they still run great! Well the spools are interchangeable. Same real just different spools. I don’t know why they can’t come up with something that hints at the size. Case in point. 5000 are giant compared with the 4.5k.
Great video. What rod and braid line do you recommend to pair with the saragosa 6000? I was thinking the Nexus Jigging World shadow surf rod with 30 to 40 lbs braid line. Would love to know your opinions/suggestions...
Not likely! It’s a manual bail and it has a rubber ring under the rotor that provides friction to prevent the bangle from turning while mid cast. I also had no problems with it in my personal use
Bob, I’ll be doing a full review on the Saltiga in about 2 months, but objectively I think it’s a better performing reel than the Stella. There’s plenty of nuance to this, and I’d say that there’s almost never going to be a scenario where a Stella fails, and a Saltiga steps in to save the day… but, that’s the beauty of reviewing Super spinners. We get to geek out on minutiae 🤣🍻
@@Tyler-kw9ce my 2020 has held up significantly better than the Saltiga Expedition (which flaked terribly) however I can say the finish definitely isn’t as good as the Stella. And both of them suck compared to an all anodized Aluminum body like you find on a Van Staal.
@@RyanMorie Thanks Ryan, your videos are always so informative and polished. Detailed videos like this are especially helpful when I'm looking for expert opinion. .
It’s so hard to choose when it comes to giant blue fin tuna cause once you out there and hooked up you want to have the confidence in your reel to get the job done and not being able to catch fish side by side with each reel how does one choose
Depends on what you like in a reel. I'm a bigger guy, don't mind a little extra weight to get the solid feel of the Slammer. If being super light is super important, the Saragosa is going to be better. Both will get the job done.
I'll take 3 Gosa's and $100 in my pocket over 1 Stella every time. Great review.
Agree. But id take a saltiga over any shimano, especially a daiwa dogfight with 66 lbs of drag!And im getting a accurate any day. The ultimate reel.
All day, everyday!😂😂😂
i'll take 5 stradics!
@@Ghost-sz7uo lol same here!
@@stripervince1 and just break your line roller bearing and the main gear itself. 😂😂😂
Absolutely love your reviews, very thorough and you share personal experience along with your technical understanding of fishing reels. Keep up the great work!
😳I’m sure I could take it all apart.
Putting it back together is another story. Such an impressive display of fishing knowledge, mechanical skills, and product knowledge.
A lot to learn here besides reel comparison.
Thank you for watching!
@@RyanMorie Your videos are fantastic ! Ryan keep it up really ! I have a question to ask, what would you put on the Palms xxh106 ? A saragosa 8000 or 14 000 ? Also a 4500hs slammer iv or 6500hs slammer iv ?
Good review ? No. It's a terrific review ! I'm in the market for a spinning reel and this video has helped me immensely. I have looked at the Stella and was shocked when I saw the price tag. I don't see that as a fair trade for my money. Some folks would think the price as a good value and God bless them. I wonder what the odds are regarding total sales of each reel. 10-1, 5-1, 20-1? Anyway thank you for your effort. BTW I think Alan Hawk is a wonderful writer and smart guy. God Bless.
Solid honest review Ryan. You covered a bunch just from watching the videos of you catching a wide variety of fish. I've actually talked on the surf about what you have conquered with this reel which was impressive to say the least for $300. The parts and service from shimano is a huge deal breaker in its class.
I haven’t had to deal with Shimano Customer Service in a few years but in the past they were better than the competition (in my limited experience)
Shimano serviced my old stella for $15.00. Customer service is amazing!
This was a great review. Actually recently purchased a new SW8000 at the Pacific Outdoors show in Costa Mesa over the weekend. Have yet to try it out. Thanks for the excellent video Ryan!
Hey, I love how you break the reel down and show the components. I'm terrified about taking my reels apart. I think you sold me. Next reel I'm looking at will be the Saragosa SW. I like this type of video. Keep it up.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching 🍻
@@RyanMorie just got the SW18000HG.. yet to use it
Wow , that’s a true review from unbiased n unsponsered guy , i’d take ur words over AH anytime , i have almost all shimano reels 3 stellas down to sonora , durable as hell n i’m tough on my gears , casting allday long 7:10 hrs is nothing but tough tasks for any spinning reel to stand for . Stella is the real king but yes it is way expensive ,agaiin so the saltiga and they wont going to reduce their price down as long as we keep buy them.
Awesome review, you and Tackle Advisors are the reason I use them. Great reel!
Thank you for all the work you put in!
I think a key thing to consider is usage. If you are going to be beating the crap out of the reel using it on shore etc, the Stella makes sense. I am purchasing the gosa for tuna jigging off LI where 80% of our time is spent trolling. Great video Ryan!
Very impressive review and review style. I am a shimano guy and have been for many years. I personally find the quality of the Stradic, Ultegra XTD, Saragosa and Spheros very good for the price point and would much rather have 3 or 4 reels for my $1000. I would be one that would enjoy watching you put that Saragosa back together!!
There’d be way too many curse words involved as I put it back together 🤣🤣🤣
Jiss dude... a review with a disassembly 😱 insane amount of effort put into it... i really enjoyed it and could be helpful with the disassembly part as well... Awesome vid
Thank you! Definitely a lot of work but I want to make the best videos I can 🤙🏼🍻
Fantastic. A video worth viewing. God bless. I often watch a lot of your videos but never thought of subscribing. Today I did as you work really really very very hard to come at this level. Thanks from Antonio, from Goa, India.
For those who have a Daiwa BG 8000 for heavy fishing, what advantages would I have over the Saragosa? Nice review man! 🤜🤛
Wow! Greatest Review of a Spinning Reel I have ever seen.. Real Review - Bravo!!!
Fantastic review. You are very thorough! And concise. I learned quite a bit for not being familiar with the brand or the reels construction.
Thank Ypu - awesome review!!!
Subscribed. The most detail oriented reel breakdown of all time.
Thank you for a splendid review. I will go for the 6000 SW A. It will fullfil my needs for a good, light allrounder when it comes to a SW-spinning reel. I fish in Norway and Portugal, jigging, pilking or casting poppers and stickbaits.
New to surfing fishing and equipment, found this and your other reviews very helpful. Thanks!
Great review! The taking apart part is awesome (tackle advisors style). What I didn't like is that your room was a bit on the dark side, extra light would be nice. Other than that a perfect review and would love to see more of these. Just ordered a 14000 Gossa btw ...
Love the tackle reviews! I'm a huge tackle nerd and watch/read whatever I can on reels like like. I even bought a saltiga expedition and a saragosa SWA 10k after your videos lol Keep up the great content
Wow that’s pretty cool to hear! Thanks for watching my friend 🍻
Thanks for a very convincing review/comparison
on Saragosa SW-A and Stella spinning reels.
Especially appreciated you pointing out the
anti=reverse being found in the 18000 models
and above.
BOL
Tight Lines...
Thanks for watching! 🍻
Having a 6000 for micro jigging and dead baiting domersals, a 10,000 for jigging pelagic‘s and a 20,000 for live baiting. All for less than the price of one Stella option, I’ll go the Gosa any day of the week! Awesome review mate!
6000 for microjigging, I know people that caught 60kg bluefin on 6000
@@hldemi_fishing agreed mate the 6000 is a beast of a real but I have had some interesting bi catches micro jigging and dead baiting including big kingfish and blue groper I prefer to have the guts of the 6000 in case I need it
@@fishinginthedarkwithcalebm3667 Fair enough mate.
@@hldemi_fishing 👍
Hi,
Great video and also great knowledge.
I have a Daiwa BG Mq 6000 and a Shimano Saragosa 6000 in front of me and tried to make it out which one is better. Now I know which one I'll send back. 😅
Thank you a lot. Tight lines.
Excellent review from an owner of both vintage blue FA series Stellas and other mid & high end Shimano SW spinners.
Always the best review to watch!
Very informative and detailed wise!
FISH ON! TIGHT LINES!
Like and subscribed BUT let me say why it was ALMOST a great video. First, I was guessing the entire time if this was a 10,000 size reel. I never saw it on the spool and you never mentioned the size. I assume it was because you did mention the gear ratio. I really did like the video but if you could confirm your rod and reel setup that you had paired in the video I would appreciate it very much. Thanks and I look forward to more
What rod did you have the reel on for the review?
Nice review, you nailed it. On Shimano and Daiwa’s website they talk about Hagane gear blah blah to lure people money. I have 10 years old reel and they still perform. I believe these companies are enjoying fisher man money more than actual fisher man enjoying catching fish. Only few people catch good fish and not all but every one spends a lot of money on buying latest and greatest rods and reels.
Thank you so much for the video. Super informative. And make me to make a decision super easy. I'm going for Saragosa. Thank you.
I love how you casually go out to test it by catching trophy fish! I just got my 25K in the mail, going to test it out in Destin this weekend, pretty stoked!
hey man I'm thinking about buying the saragosa but the reviews I see aren't that good with people getting used/broken reels, did the reel work out for you?
@@Richard-rr6ze you mean the wobble? Looks like they fixed it! I saw some reviews about that. No issues here.
@@BodaciousBohannon people said they had issues with the wobble, it was damaged, looked like it was used before ect where did you buy yours at?
@@Richard-rr6ze Hey sorry man, I woke up to use the bathroom and quickly replied to that comment. I got mine from BassPro, strictly for the points and whatnot. What size are you thinking of going with? I went all out on the 25K, eventually I was going to need it, but it is quite large. I'll probably get one or two more in the 4500-5000 range, or the new Shimano Twin Power. Also those vanfords replaced the very popular CI4 and those have amazing reviews, I hope to grab one of those sometime in the future. Let me know what you decide on!
bought 3 of the 10,000's dont have them yet, was between penn slammer and the gossa's
Appreciate your review. I am buying one of these first quarter 2025. I was already using the Stella as the benchmark but leaning toward the Saragossa for many of the reasons you stated. I’ll double check updates on both last three years then purchase. Thanks Much.
Great review and well explained! Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿! Thank you 😀
Thanks for watching 🍻
Nice review mate, good on you for paying respects to maestro Alan Hawk.
Thanks for watching Sir! 🍻
Excellent review/comparison, Ryan 👌
Thanks for watching!
Newbie subscriber but LONGTIME fisherman. Great videos and you definitely know your stuff. I will be purchasing a Gosa SW A as soon as I get back to the US from Mexico in October. Do you have the dimensions for the low friction washer (11:02)? I want to replace it with a sealed ball bearing but cannot obtain one as they are backordered from Shimano (PN: 10TG8). By-the-way, Shimano calls it a spacer. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.
You might want to consider a roller assembly. Gomexus has some interesting stuff ( and good quality) in my experience.
@@fredkendall4955 Thanks for the info...I'll check them out
Great review… based on this and Alan’s review I bought a 10,000 and 25,000. I do have several Shimano and Daiwa reels. But, this seems to be the best all-arounder that I can lend to guests or use as a backup for tuna fishing.
Living in Japan, I can buyTwin Powers or Certates for around $100 more than a Saragosa. Given the close pricing,which would you choose?
Hi there
I subscribed because you decided me on my next purchase and you did a great job 👍
Thanks
Happy to here it! Welcome aboard!
Solid review and honest. One of the best reels I own and you will never have to worry because it’s just that well made. I don’t own a Stella but I own the tranx 500 and a Trinidad and you definitely get what you pay for from shimano. The best about shimano is if you do need it fixed they’re warranty is send it in and you get it back brand new. Literally I took my Calcutta in and the just gave me a new one. It does help to live in Orange County since there in Irvine
I’d love to see a review of some smaller reels like the Diawa ballistic MQ or Penn Clash II
I should also clarify I’m a fellow Florida fisherman, I just torture myself with using 2500/3000 sized reels for majority of my fishing. I am primarily a shore based fisherman and I’ll walk miles of beach in naples and cast all day so the smaller reels take away some muscle fatigue
@@Drpepperkiller1017 i had both casting all day. Clash failed less than under a year but the slammer 3 3500 still going strong for 2 years now. Shimano Vanford gets my vote vs Ballistic or Ballistic MQ. And if i will be wade fishing as well i might give Saltist MQ 2k or 3k a try.
The new 8000 still have the same annoying wobble in the rotor. It looks like you have the 10 000 which have the same rotor as the 8000. The wobble is less noticeable on the 10 000 because of the lower gear ratio (slower rotation speed)
Are they all like this I feel like it's a major defect for a 300 dollar reel mine feels super wobbly
@@jeremylewis8316It's a feature. Not too wobbly on the 14000 suprisingly. This, and the Spheros SW/ Stradic SW all have it. Excellent big game reels for the price. If your after smoothness and no wobbling just get a expensive daiwa.
What rod is that you are holding at about 5mins into the video? Looks sweet! Thanks for your reviews! I find them very informative!
this review just sold me on a new saragosa
I think it’s definitely a good value compared to the competition!
Nice review. I never own a Gosa before but a HG is my preference gear ratio too.
Absolute amazing review. Wow. The detail! Still debating on a 4 or 5000 gosa or a van staal 50. Gonna be for river/ lake stripers
Honestly the VR50 is super nice but not necessary.
@@RyanMorie well it’s beautiful, machined, simple, waterproof (which i dont care im using it in fresh and it wont be swimming) has a great drag and line capacity and is super lightweight. BUT, made in china bothers me. Im probably goin for a saltiga 4500
They don’t have a 4000 m8 only starts at 5000
@@danielmallon5326 yes I meant to put 5000 or 6000. Didn't proofread. My bad
Great review,thanks.I bought the Saragosa👍Cheers🐟🎣
My favorite offshore Shimano reel is actually the TwinPower. I've owned Stella's but the TwinPower feels more solid. It's definitely heavier but it feels stronger.
It does feel good but technically it's not stronger than a Gosa. The old Stella (SWA, SWB) is a totally different reel, the SWC isn't. The rotor and the anti reverse of the older Stellas play in a different league. Now only the Makaira Spinning and the Saltiga are true big game spinners in current production.
good review, thank you Ryan
Great review. Thank you.
I actually just picked up my gosa the other day for a birthday present to myself 🤣 put her on a 7 ft med heavy action ter rod. Got a calissa surf lure to set out for her maiden cast
I have both Saragosa and 2015 Stella SW1000SZ. They both have served me well. After the Stella brings in a 100lb yft I get frustrating bail closer on the following cast. Now I know why.. but no issues with stopping them from top water casting. However the Gosa gets really hot when almost, I mean almost getting spooled, but no premature flip bail. I need durability out there on the north Pacific Both reels has never been dunked but a simple wash and wipe down after use and stored there in warm climate I used them every 4-6months for 4 years on my return. serviced twice for re greasing and bail trip/flexing. looking at Penn slammer IV Don't want to break my arm. Any idea the weight on the 6500h.(hidden files)Why dont they come with beveled spool. No brainer1!!!!! I dont need all that friction in my life.
I love all your vids and your professionalism. I'll be picking up the Saragosa 5000 sw-a. I'm looking for a surf casting rod for bait casting/big poppers. Im looking for a med/fast action surf casting rod in 9'or10' that would match with saragosa 5000 sw-a What is the surf casting rod in your video, a Rod in the med/fast 9' or 10' would be great Also a boat rod casting for mahimahi or tuna. Your advice is greatly appreciated Thx.
What can you upgrade on the reel to make it like a Stella? Maybe a video of certain upgrades you can do to the reel to make it closer to the Stella. Ie changing to a bearing in the knob…
I am loving Stella sw ❤❤❤ I am having Stella sw 4000 hg very nice fishing for my life ❤❤❤
The 2008 Stella SWA did have the all metal anti reverse already and I believe even the 2001 FA. The anti reverse in the SWC, Saragosa, Spheros, Twin power, and even many recently produced budget reels was in the 1998 and maybe even the first 1993 Stella.
It only makes a difference in high drag uses, cause both types live extremely long, the difference is simply that while both last extremely long extremely long when fished within they're healthy range, it's that range of drag pressure. The anti reverse in the old Stella(very similar to the anti reverse in the Saltiga and Makaira) has an almost unlimited range while the one in the new Stella, Saragosa etc. Is much more limited. Point is that both types will perform identically (even though the one with the plastic housing feels kinda spungy and less solid) until the lesser one is pushed to, or beyond it's limits, then the all metal system will be superior since it's stronger. BTW: The two anti reverse systems are basically the same, both use metal (SS) break cylinders and metal (SS)springs which won't wear out like the standard plastic V springs. The difference between the two anti reverse systems we are talkin' about here is that the all metal anti reverse has an metal frame which is directly fitted into the reels frame (plastic in the Gosa, metal in the Stella) while the cheaper version has a plastic housing which is simply screwed down to the frame of the reel. Again, both systems work the same, but one has an extremely solid connection without any weak points and the other is simpler and cheaper but just as effective as long you don't push it too far. This is also why the new Stella has a lesser drag output then the old ones (real drag, shimanos claims are rubbish)
What kind of rod is that, that you use when testing the drag and castabillity
Hi what size is the reel 🙏🙏😁😁
What size is the gosa in this video?
Awesome thanks for a great review!
Can you change the rotor on this with the aluminum rotor ? I’d the 8000 or 10000 size spool interchangeable on the 6000 Saragosa?
Ryan, very informative video. I just purchased the Sargussa 18000 HG… I will use it for pitching , flat line and drop to the bottom from time to time. I fish in South fla. Wahoo, mahi and mutton. How would you spool?
I’d fish it with 65lb braid. It’ll probably fit around 550 yards. You can add a top-shot of varying size monofilament depending on the situation. (Connect your braid to your mini top-shot with an FG knot for best results)
Saragosa for the win. Never lets me down.
To fish well you need to be confident you have an advantage on the fish, this is what keeps you concentrating on your game from 1st to last cast of the day, the knowing if a fish comes by you know how and have what it takes to catch it, this advantage, this confidence you build in yourself comes from either or both your knowledge and technique and from having good gear, confidence comes at a high price for some, in this times more expensive is better, not all people look anymore at value for money, who knows if they came with something much more expensive than Stella they might sell like mini bread loafs. Saragosa priced to sell, Stella priced to make larger profit on smaller numbers. Not all my reels are sealed however I rarely have issues with salt and corrosion. (apart from BG's sticky drag knob and Stradic's noisy roller guides) a good rinse and once a year open clean and grease keeps them going forever. Some sites sell all wearable parts which are easy to replace. I must say that having boat in Florida fishing all year round brings maintenance time higher once you gone through the Centaur slow pitch jigging, Saragosa sw speed jigging, the BG's live bait surface , the Speedmaster's wrecks fishing , the Stradic FJ 8000 (rare) surface stick bait and popping reels, the Tyrnos trolling reels, the Stradic FI (yes still going strong) bass fishing, new Stradic SW shore fishing, add to that I like to have at least a couple so I can take along friends who don't have thier own gear, add to that the odd reels picked up here and there as travel souvenirs and piled in the big box with hundreds of unused untested lures for which you always think you found them the perfect job until you purchase the appropriate reel for the job, plus soon I hope the deep drop reels which luckily will also serve as kite reels, once you've done them all a year has passed and you can start again from beginning. Full time job...haha It seems I am very much a 200 to 300$ reel king of guy, I think for what fish we have here most shimano's mid-range do the job no problem and for long time. The BG's are my cheapest but I like that on the 5000 at 100 bucks you can put a lot of line which is great for sailfish, I am thinking the new Saragosa's should replace them soon. I should think of something else, real obsession...
What is the brand length and action of the rod u had on the gosa
can you tell me, (5:18)what rod do you use? thanks
Thanks for the video & for the in depth description of my next reel. Just one question..what is the brand of that SURF ROD you are using with the saragosa sw in this video? It looks a very sweet set-up! Thanks again!!
It’s a custom rod built by Juno Bait in Juno Beach, Florida. Blank is a Phenix Black Diamond Hybrid 20-50lb 9’2”
@@RyanMorie
Thank you for the quick reply! I heard a lot of good things with Phenix blanks. Too bad we dont have that here in MI. Will watch more of your vidz & u got a new subscriber! Thanks again!
Just sub'd from the islands of Palau. Learn alot from your vids. Thanx✌🏾🌊🇵🇼
Ryan, what pound test line are you running on this reel? Do you spool it all with the main line, or do you put a backing on it?
Killer review buddy thank
Thanks for watching!
What are the specs on that rod? I am very interested in which guides it has and the distance from reel to stripper guide. I have been having a hard time laying out my custom rod to eliminate line slap with a saragosa 18000.
Can you install the crank handle on the right side on a Saragosa sw10000? All the pictures i saw, the crank handle is installed oh the left side. thanks
Love your reviews man you are definitely 1 of the best on UA-cam
Thank you!
Great review.
What braid for the 18000? Just got mine and I'm leaning towards 65lb for casting stickbaits, figure I'll get more distance with each throw plus more capacity compared to 80lb. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
How heavy are the stickbaits you use?
I have 65 on my Spheros 18000 with the target species mainly being sharks from shore. If I were casting big plugs around structure I would go 80 or 100t though. Just really situationally dependent
@@RyanMorie Roger that thanks!
I just picked up the 10000 primarily for throwing jigs up to 6oz but 3oz 90% of the time. The 10000 is a big reel so I THOUGHT I was going back for the 8000. Checking specs right now I may go to the 6000 or possibly even the 5000. The 6 can carry 290/30 PP and the 5 carries 225/30 PP. but the reels weigh the same essentially. The use of smaller set ups has come a long way. In the past light tackled killed a lot fish because it took so long to land them. Now even the lighter reels can can get a fish to the boat quickly enough. Sometimes I don’t think rods have kept up with reels.
The 8k is on the same platform as the 10k so it’ll fish very similarly. I’d go with the the 6k if you want something lighter. The 6k and the 5k are practically the same too
@@RyanMorie haha.. I went back to the b&t today and told the guy I’d like to check out the 7000. I’m sure you know what I mean. It would be nice to know what Shimano has against the number “7” ???? I’ve got two older Stratics. Older but they still run great! Well the spools are interchangeable. Same real just different spools. I don’t know why they can’t come up with something that hints at the size. Case in point. 5000 are giant compared with the 4.5k.
Drag clicker sound on my gosa 5000 is not same after catch tuna 17kg. Any idea?
Great video. What rod and braid line do you recommend to pair with the saragosa 6000? I was thinking the Nexus Jigging World shadow surf rod with 30 to 40 lbs braid line. Would love to know your opinions/suggestions...
What rod did you end up getting
Hello Ryan , what size rod , also a good rod go well and balance with that Saragosa SW. 6000 and TY for sharing
What is a good rod for the Saragossa for stripe bass and blue fish so like 10-40lbs
what rod are you using at 5:28
What size is this reel?
Saragosa has line roller bearing vs a daiwa saltist having a bushing??
Hi, I need to choose between saragosa 14k or 18k for popping in maldives. What to choose?
Is this reel prone to premature bail closer when casting heavy heavy lures on 10.6 to 11 foot rods ???....Thank You. Great Video.
Not likely! It’s a manual bail and it has a rubber ring under the rotor that provides friction to prevent the bangle from turning while mid cast. I also had no problems with it in my personal use
Wondering if new Gosa will come out 2024 or 25?
i know you were impressed with the Daiwa Saltiga .. Saltiga vs Stella which do you think is the better reel?
Main complaint I've heard on saltiga is that the paint/anodizing sucks and guys are having the finish bubble or flake off. Not cool on a $1k+ reel.
Bob, I’ll be doing a full review on the Saltiga in about 2 months, but objectively I think it’s a better performing reel than the Stella. There’s plenty of nuance to this, and I’d say that there’s almost never going to be a scenario where a Stella fails, and a Saltiga steps in to save the day… but, that’s the beauty of reviewing Super spinners. We get to geek out on minutiae 🤣🍻
@@Tyler-kw9ce my 2020 has held up significantly better than the Saltiga Expedition (which flaked terribly) however I can say the finish definitely isn’t as good as the Stella. And both of them suck compared to an all anodized Aluminum body like you find on a Van Staal.
@@RyanMorie Thanks Ryan, your videos are always so informative and polished. Detailed videos like this are especially helpful when I'm looking for expert opinion. .
Has the reel have a manual bail.thanl Darren.
5:42 is that a custom rod?
What kind of rod are you using in the video?
It’s so hard to choose when it comes to giant blue fin tuna cause once you out there and hooked up you want to have the confidence in your reel to get the job done and not being able to catch fish side by side with each reel how does one choose
Hey quick question on this reel, is there a small gap between the handle and the reel where it screws in? Thank you
I absolutely love your fishing vids!! If you ran for Governor of Florida you'd have my vote instantly!! 👉❤👈
Penn Slammer 4 or 2020 Shimano Saragosa?!
Depends on what you like in a reel. I'm a bigger guy, don't mind a little extra weight to get the solid feel of the Slammer. If being super light is super important, the Saragosa is going to be better. Both will get the job done.
What is the beach rod used with the Saragosa 10000?
Can you do a video on the Twin power
Can you throw flairhawks and swim baits with the Saragosa 6k ? With the “41 inch retrieve would that be too fast?
It’s fine for that, plenty of people use a 6k. It just doesn’t have the torque that the bigger reels have.
@@RyanMorie Thanks for the reply! Enjoyed the breakdown & review.
Wow bro ur really close to the grouper those dorsal fins are sharpppp
Great review!! do you know where is the clicking system for the Gosa located? mines got silent after fighting a shark for hours.
Max drag rating is normally rated when the spool is almost empty, not at full.