WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?? 87-93 FOXBODY MUSTANGS
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2020
- The amount of differences between 1987-1993 Fox Body Ford Mustangs may just surprise you. Also we discuss some very rare 87-93 Fox Body's at the end.
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I wasn't aware of most of these. Great coverage buddy.
Thanks brother! Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 🙏🏻
@@417fox Awsome fox bro.I have a vibrant red 93 cobra all original with just 20 thousand original miles original paint.I also have a red 87 mustang gt with the rare T TOP OPTION.The great part is I bought it back in 05 for 17.500 bucks and today I can get 40 grand easy.I have a buddy that has a vibrant red 93 cobra with just 200 miles.He has been offered 75 grand.I also have a deep emerald green 92 Lx
@@417fox So I am a huge fox fan.I also have a TERMINATOR and 4 Shelbys.So like yourself iam a huge Mustang fan.
@@417fox One thing I wish is that Ford didn't offer a 93 cobra body kit.Reason I think they be even more valuable if you couldn't clone them.That's how Shelby American works with the super snakes.You can't clone them.There are a lot of parts that you can not buy.
How about a Canadian foxbody? I can’t find any info on them since U.S. Ford doesn’t have access to them as far as I know. I’m talking about a 1990 red on black LX notch, manual windows/door locks/ side mirrors/ non AC/ stereo delete/ non cruise control/ 3.08 rear axle ratio/ manual transmission/arm rest delete but with rear defrost and map light. How would this compare to USA statistics?
P.S. it has heavy duty battery and road abrasion protection for snow rust per Canada standards with daytime running lights.
Lastly, 100% stock. Zero aftermarket upgrades and OEM condition.
P.S.S. 220km/h Speedo with 6 digit mile marker and 100k kilometers on the clock! BTW great video. Learned a lot. Sub’ed!!!
As a 30 year ford employe, no tilt was because of the angle that the airbag deployes, lower position steering wheel it will hit you in the chest, upper position it would take your head off when deployed.
I have a couple for you. In the interior, with the premium sound system, the amp was under the passenger seat only in the 1993.
The other years it was behind the radio under the console. And in the engine, for 1993, the head bolts were TTY (torque to yield). In all other years, they were normal bolts that can be re-used. BTW, I am the original owner of a 1993 Ford Mustang LX coupe reef blue 5.0L 5 speed with no options. No cruise, no power windows, no A/C, no power locks. It came with a regular radio and defrost. Black interior. And it is on the road.
Wow nice I also have a reef blue 5.0 5 speed hatch but grey interior
'93 lx coupe EP red, black interior, cruise, premium sound, rear defrost and that's it. Still have it🙂
Thanks was just gifted my late best friends 1990 5 speed Gt White 5.0... Looking forward to get it up in running. Been just his garage for last 15 yrs or more...Bless His Kids for letting me have their father pride in joy....
Man that is a touching and cool story
Would that make the 140mph speedometer a 25th anniversary LX
I dont know if i missed it in the video, the 87-89 instument cluster is made different than the 90-93. Also the early aero foxes had a low fuel light, and they had the warning lights in the lower right side of the instrument bezel basicly in front of the ignition switch. The older aeros also has a fuel door pop button in the glovebox.
They sure do and that's good to know that's there
Great video and thanks for taking the time to put all these differences together. Just found your channel and have subscribed. Love the GT
"the birth of Jesus Christ" amen brother 🙏
Nice vid, I love my 88 gt, bought it brand new and still have it. Its was a really fun car to drive, looking forward to getting it back on the road! Keep up the good work man.
Ol girl sounds like she rips, nice car man! I got a 92. foxes are fun little cars
Great content and info! Merry Christmas!!
Great content! Foxbodies are so rare. People get excited just to find a rust free, clean one at this point. Definitely helps to know the differences between the different years. I prefer the later airbag cars and especially 1991-1993 with the bigger front fender wheel openings.
The 25 Year Annv Mustangs were built from April 1989 thru April 1990....which somewhat replicates the original run of the first Mustang, the 1964 1/2.
The big headrest seats also have a taller back. If I recall its 26" vs 24"
Thanks for that!
THE INTERIOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MY 87 MUSTANG GT TOO MY 93 COBRA REALLY ISN'T THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. LOL THE FLOOR MATTS IN MY 93 COBRA ARE THE ONLY THING IN THE INTERIOR THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM MY 87 AND MY 92 LX.
I RECENTLY SAW AT SET OF 93 COBRA FLOOR MATS ON EBAY THAT SOLD FOR 2 GRAND LOL CRAZY.
I have 1 of 219 Twilight Blue LX 5.0 convertibles that were made in 1991. Kinda of cool.
Love the info keep it up and merry xmas🎄🎄
Great video with lots of info. I currently have an 2001 svt cobra convertible but always loved the fox body cars.
Great info, thanks for passing it along.
Great video brother! Didn't know that about the lap belts in the back seat of the earlier cars. Makes sense. Merry Christmas to you and yours. He is the reason for the season. 👍
Merry Christmas brother!
I've had my 89 GT since it was new and didn't know a lot of this info. Thanks! Just ordered your bezels. Excited.
Thank you! So cool you still have it man.
Great video! You gained a new subscriber. My 89 LX was an anniversary edition made in August of 1989, and has a tiny dash emblem to prove it. 😆 I was told on a forum that mine is a "sport" edition. She has the big headrest seats with power lumbar on the driver's seat. Also came with 3.08 rear end gears, 140 mph speedo, and tilt steering. Also came with 10 hole wheels and a full size spare, which was stolen by a sleazy shop in Florida. Didn't realize it was gone until I had moved back to Texas. Enjoyed the video, will continue checking out the rest. God bless!
I'm glad you said that about the fuse panel ive been thinking i was missing some dash bc it was just hanging and not behind a cover
Nice trim piece! I swapped in the 90-93 controls into my 87, and was thinking about figuring out a way to mount a newer radio one day. Mine also has a 90 black interior so I added the rear seat shoulder belts too. Lots of little differences over the years! Great info!
Merry Christmas to You and Your Family!!
True story. Had a 89 model and got pulled over and was handcuffed and about to have my car searched because a rookie cop thought the map light was mounted paraphernalia and was about to search it when a must more trained officer took a look him self and realized it was a light. I was confused standing behind the car in cuff's until I heard the cop say it's a light. Subscribed. They let me go.
Now that’s an amazing story!
Reminds me of a time a cop pulled me over in a 89 5.0 auto vert, only gave me a ticket for ten over yes it had an 85 mph speedo and that sucker was pegged cop told me it was because I accelerated away from him quick enough that the radar couldn’t get an accurate track on the car maybe because of the low rear cross section on those cars but nice I didn’t lose my license
ALOT OF GUY'S DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE SPEED DENSITY CARS PUT OUT 5 TOO 10 MORE HP THAN THE MASS AIR CAR'S.
Very informative and enjoyable video 417 Fox. Thank you for taking the time to create and upload this great content !
Now for my 2 cents; the small headrests in the fox are basically non functional. I ended up putting (color matching) 95 Mustang articulating headrests in my Fox for long drives. Big improvement.
Good video. I had a 86 gt t-top but I couldn’t tell you the difference from a 87-93. Most of my experience is on the first gen mustangs. Taught me some stuff.
Both my 89 and my 90 had the anniversary pony on the dash.. I always wondered why! Thanks for clearing it up
The convertible interior qrt trim panels were different. 90 or 91 they redesigned the top to go lower into the area behind the back seat and had to redesign and change the trim moldings
Great list, I was glued to it, yes do some list.
Cool information always learning something about my car. I like the music that was played who was it?
Definitely subbing good work buddy
Great stuff! I realize that stereo changes amongst the years were plentiful. Someone else mentioned the amp under the passenger's seat on the 1993, but a couple other options stand out to me. One was the CD Player which was introduced in 1993. Also, the factory equalizer is a pretty nice option to have. I know it was available on at least the 1991 and 1992 cars. I think it also was available on an earlier year.
The convertible top headliner became standard on the 1993 cars but also was on the 1992 feature cars.
Beautiful fox! I have a man. 93' Reef Blue notch. In resto mode now. Great vid here!
I'm glad you touched on the map light. I have one in my '88 GT and had never seen another. I thought I had a freak option.
One thing you might have mentioned - although it's not really a "feature" - are the GT fog lights. Ford wired these incorrectly or didn't consider the load on the electrical system when installing. After 45 minutes or so, when running the fogs with the headlights, the entire lighting system shuts down. It happened to me one night on a desolate country road and freaked me out. I saw a fix for it in a Mustang magazine years ago, but it involved a lot of IP surgery, so I passed on it. With the advent of LED bulbs, the fix is now just a matter of upgrading the bulb I guess.
early 90 cars did not have the arm rest, mid year they brought it back. I have a 90GT bought in 92 did not have one. and got my arm rest from a local yard. 90 fenders are smaller than 91,92,93 wheels. this was done in part from 15 to 16" wheels as you mentioned. I think 91 went to the smaller 2 wire starter also.
Makes me appreciate my 1990 Dark Titanium LX 5.0 5-sp all the more. Mine's a hatch, though, not a notch. Lotta fun. Thanks for the vid.
Great content and information sir! Not to me one of those guys but.... the comment about the 91 LX’s in Light Crystal Blue. It was actually 90. Trying it find out the break down with options as to the numbers produced in certain configurations. I had a 90 Light Crystal Blue, navy top, blue/black interior with white leather automatic. Trying to locate it now to try to buy I back. Sold it 18 years ago.
I had no idea all the suttle differences in the 87-93 Fox Body, I had an 1987 GT without power windows, locks, cruise and A/C from the factory with a 3:08 gear in the rear. By far my favorite. It may not have been as fast as some chevy’s but I wouldn’t have traded it for any of them.
Cool channel new to fox body’s just got my 88 gt .
I have a 91 LX 5.0 convertible. cool to learn new things about foxbodies
Awesome video. New subscriber here and looking forward to catching up on all your videos. Im in the rare foxbody club with my 89 saleen red with gold.
I really enjoyed this video.
Seatbelt mount location is different in the 90-93 than 87-89. That's why the black interior is not a direct swap.
You’ll see a few quarter panels for sale with the holes drilled out all the time😂
Yes, I drilled the holes for mine. A friend was planning to put some tweeters on the original holes in his 86, but I just left mine alone.
Great video brother!
Great video. Wow, I can't believe how much your high school car looked like mine. In 1993 I had a 1988 GT in Scarlet Red, 5 speed with grey interior, power locks/windows and sunroof but no a/c and also had the smoked headlight and foglight covers. I wanted so bad to have pony's on mine but sadly had the turbines. Even with the 2.73 M code axle, it was the fastest car in high school :O) Irocs were really popular and I wanted something different so I bought my 5.0 and loved it. Smoked them F-bodies all the time. Drove that car through college too and it never left me stranded and the clutch was still strong when I sold it. I even drove it 2000 miles across Western Canada on a failing fuel pump.
Very nice attention to detail video. Most people overlook all these minor or major changes, what is wild to think is that 79-04 unibody and suspension are all similar and interchangeable! I have a question sir, where can i score one of those super cool "Fox It" hats?
Great video.. 👍 thank you
Great information a lot I didn’t know
Loving that intro music. Reminds me of Overkill. Beautiful stang!
Not all 87-89 cars had tilt, it was an option iirc.
True. I ordered my '88 without tilt.
Yes my factory no option 87 black coupe had no tilt. It does now!
Nice video man. I have an 84 convertible fox. Nice and clean. 👍
89 and 90 are the only ones to have the words 25 Anniversary written at the bottom of the running hourse dash emblem.
Very well done, as well as some of the follow up comments. FYI, the 5.0 valve covers on the 87-89 and some 90's are unfinished raw aluminum and the 90 - 93 are finished. Then there are the convertible tops, 87-89 no headliners until 90 then finished off with a headliner.
87-92 mustang gt and lx with or without mass air had the same 225 horsepower. The horsepower did not drop until 1993 fox body mustang gt or lx. Know the 93 cobra was rated at 245 with the gt40 heads and intake. Just had to make it clear on the HP ratings. Yes all 87-92 mustang gt or lx had forged Pistons where 93 was not forged.
Stuff you missed: Reduction in horsepower from ‘88 to ‘89 was due to a milder / smoother cam, not from MAF. 90-93 had smaller headrests, knee impact pads under the steering wheel, darker black pigmented dash plastics, low fuel light relocated from the dash bezel to the instrument panel, no tweed seat fabric option, and dark blue exterior Ford oval emblems vs light blue. Essentially all the interior changes in 90-93 were to offset the cost of the new airbag….including cheaper climate control dials and bezel. I’m surprised Ford didn’t go from 4 lug wheels to 3..
I read somewhere the 87s were the fastest.
COL CHANNEL NICE CAR CANT WAIT TILL I GET MY OWN ALL IN GODS TIMING THANKS FOR ALL THE COOL INFO.
I had a 88 black LX and my best friend had a 891/2 black anniversary car with sport seats.. I was always jealous of those seats.. but we used to drive each other‘s cars on the interstate so we could see what each other‘s cars looked and sounded like... That was fun!!
That's cool man!! I used to drive by this building and you could see your reflection.
I'm glad you did this. I have a 90 lx 5.0 and the people that acquired it from the original owner took interior out of a 4 cylinder of a pre 90 car. So mine is all ass backwards on the interior stuff. I drive a truck so I'm not home right now but now I need to look see if the shoulder belts or the lap belt is in back. Ive never paid attention bc I never knew there was a change and with mine being all outa year wak with the interior im curious if they changed the belts also. I know the bezel is wrong year.
We used to have a 93 maroon Foxbody GT, and I’m getting the itch to have another. Sure there are vids on this, but just briefly, how much of a pain was the LX to GT conversion for you? Thnx
So how do you find out or determine what right size splat you have if it's not on the car like I have a passenger side and I need a driver side I don't know what year it came off of I'm turning my 82 GT into an 87 to 93 GT with the ground effects
I have a 93 LX. Still currently has the 2.3l. Grey and black interior. Putting a 5.0 in it and going carbed. My fiance has an 83 GT T-Top. Love the Turbines and the Pony wheels. Hers has the Cobra wheels.
Great Content and would be amazing for one of those Ultra Blue 1992 coupes to turn up.
Man I know I have never seen one in person. True unicorn like your SSP
My 90 is a Medium Cabernet with an all black interior. Not sure how rare that is, but 32 years ago I saw it and said: "I want that one".
I own an 89 GT in deep shadow blue and titanium grey . I've owned the car since new in 89, I've always wondered how many came with the light blue stripe on the moldings . Mine doesn't have it , never did . I've seen most with it very few without . Anyone know ?
What rim and tire size u running on the gt. Looks 👌🏽👌🏽
Airbag might of come from Taurus parts bin with no tilt?
90-91 convertibles had rear power window switch in the speaker grill.
Nice video. There is actually a black fuse cover on the 90-93 cars. It was not left without a cover from the factory. Many of them were lost or the tabs easily broke off so that could be why you don’t see them much. Also, not sure if it was mentioned, but the check engine and warning lights are in the instrument cluster on 90-93 vs 87-89 are on the right lower side which can be seen through the instrument cluster bezel. Another cool super rare option not seen much is the motorized seat adjuster on 90-93 driver seat only. 87-89 had a fuel door lock in the glove box and 90-93 didn’t have it.
Fuel door and trunk open
I got a 91 5.0 the speedometer goes from 55 or 60 to past 140 in a heart beat. And goes back to o when you stop. Every time. How do I fix it. ?????
What size rims and tires do you have on the car? Sorry off topic. I love your set up. I need
4 lug. Thanks! Love your video's!!
265/35 285/35 18s
Hey Fox, don`t forget to give a nod to us 7up owners
Check part 2 out
Subbed/liked for recognising our Lord and saviour first. My car was originally medium scarlet inside and out, then resprayed a couple times to now a combo of black/bright red. Getting it ready for paint real soon, and I'm going gloss white.
Good info!
the oil pressure sensor changed between 89 and 90. And I think the dash gauge is different. 89's have a large diameter pressure sensor that will not work correctly in a 90. Also the 89 sensor, being as large as it is, was mounted out on an extension to move it further away from the oil filter. The 90's have a small diameter sensor and no extension.
MY '87 5.0 LX HAD NO PONY, 85 MPH BUT NOT NOW. VERY INTERESTING VIDEO
I had a black on grey 89 LX Sport. With 5.0 5spd sport seats no 25th emblem and it had the 140mph speedo I bought it in 95 with 3100 miles for $6200.00 cash.
87-89 had remote fuel door release in the glove box. Not sure if it was an option or standard but I know it's not there at all on 90-93 cars.
Cool video, I love knowing about all the changes Ford they made throughout the years.
Amen to that intro !
93 Teal Green 5.0 5spd hatchback with Black Interior. (w all the options I believe. AC, Rear Win Defrost, Premium sound, Cruise, Power win/locks) Original Owner with 100K on it. :) Still running, looking great and everything working. ;) Oops, except the power driver seat. The raise/lower gear stripped. :(
That’s very good to know!!👍
My fox is an 87, LX 5.0. vert, 5 speed with grey leather. Fairly rare combo.
I have a '90 couoe. Was built in Detroit for Houston PD --- it has a factory 160 mph speedo
I have a 1992 GT 2 tone titanium frost, have only seen 1 other one like it over the years.
Wow that's awesome, glad to hear someone else has one too!
WOW absolutely a wealth of info here. Im looking at foxy body stangs right now and this video has really made the excitement grow x 10. Subscribing NOW !!!
Thank you!
Rocker panel/door still treatment is different on my ‘87 vs. my ‘91 (Ford logo badge vs hard plastic edge molding).
Lots of great info! How about the SSP cars of the same era? How about a review of the factory added items that were different from year to year- possibly another rabbit hole?
Part 2🤔👍🏻
My 90 SSP has a 160mph calibrated speedometer which is common amongst SSP cars but varies in some years from what I have read
There are 3747 1988 mustangs with the ttop option. Ford discontinued the option in 1987 so all 1988 models are built in late 1987 and since they ran out of certain parts for these cars you'll notice the doors are from convertible cars (the mirrors are different) are used on the 1988's.
I have an 88 with the mirrors(sail mirrors) on the door
I learned that one when selling a set of 87 vert doors I had. The guy wanted them for his T-top car. I could use a fact check here, he told me 87 was the only year the convertible door would work on a T-top car due to mirror placement and lack of window framing. Do the 86 and older convertible doors not work?
When you showed a pic of your personal red Stang from back in the day it looks sweet but how did you see anything at night with them black headlight covers on there
We either pulled off the road and took them off or just hoped for the best.
Crazy. I didn’t know any of this
I have a rare fox body
87 H.O. 5.0 Gt. Factory headers/X pipe. 4 speed automatic. Moon roof. Black red interior. What makes it special is it was ordered with the police interceptor package. Tuned suspension cop tires and 10 aluminum wheels . No rev. limiter. Unlimited top end. The vin number depicts police.
My 89 instrument cluster is half 89 and half 91 I spent so much time building it 90 is the first airbag year .
Mine is too. I got a 90-93 speedo for cheap so I adjusted it to fit my 87 cluster. It is a slightly different color, but it doesn't bother me!
Wow never knew about that ultra blue notch
I have a 1988 Saleen Mustang with Mass air and I’m a bit of a geek in the engine bay changes that year. The 88 MAF cars intake tube and MAF Sensor and connector are unique to those cars as well as the emission decal on the coil cover. The wiring harness to the 02 sensors was unique as well. Mid year 1988 (April/May?), all 5.0 HO engines got a new camshaft to smooth the idle and also lost a few horsepower. They also got a new oil cap and lost the black intake plug that had been there since EFI got added in 1986. There were at least 3 different oil caps used during 1987-1993.
Great info!
FORGIVE ME MAN MY MEMORY SUCKS IS YOUR CAR A REAL 93 COBRA.
MAN THAT'S SO SWEET THAT YOU OFFERED THE TRIM PIECES.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see the placement of the 1979 interior door handles mentioned or in the comments. They were at the bottom of the door as opposed to the top. Very odd, never saw any other vehicle the door handles located so low on the door panel.
I now have to subscribe just picked up a 92 5.0 hatch
I got a Oxford White with black LX vert
I have a 91 LX 5.0 convertible in medium red.
Also, its not necessarily 87-89 specific, but if you are wanting to do an aftermarket momo wheel with a nrg quick release setup like I did on my 89, its MUCH easier to do and make it work on a 87-89 than a 90-93. It doesn't look right on 90+ cars and iirc horn wiring is a bit confusing. Plus its technically illegal to remove the airbag. 89 is the best year imo! 87-92 had forged pistons, 93 had hyper pistons
No Tilt wheel in 1990-93 was simply because ford did NOT have a column that tilted AT the steering wheel, like 1989 and earlier did. The airbag and forces deploying it would not allow a Tilt column, if you look at the trucks, they tilt WAY WAY back by the dash board. There was no room in a Mustang for that.
I am fairly certain if ford wanted to they could have. But just my opinion
@@417fox Nope, wouldn't pass crash test. You should call me sometime, I can tell you differences that NOBODY knows, not even FORD any more. I was the founder of "THE 5.0 SHOP" in New york, started 1987. I had the very first 5.0 EFI engine running OUT of the Mustang and in a Hot rod, IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY!!!
@@nevetslegasi5686 shoot me an email with your number and let’s talk. I am putting together part 2 and it sounds like you are the man! 417fox@gmail.com
I had a '93 gt in performance red. Then in 2001 Ford picked the paint back up. So I bought the 01' gt in performance red. But for some reason they were calling it competition red.