I think the THECROW4luck's assault and ultimately his demise would make a great movie. Gyle's masterful cast as always only added to the suspense. I don't think I've ever been captivated by anyone talking about a single ravager being built before but Gyle somehow made it happen. Furthermore his attempt to extract his Comm was some movie quality action. I mean the guy pulled his Comm out at the exact moment his defenses were being overrun, I mean when have you seen that happen in a game where it wasn't scripted?? And then its taken one step further when his Continental is ultimately shot down by Blodir while his teammates desperately tried to defend him in a raging air battle between three different people. Moments like these are only capable of happening in SupCom and that's why I think its one of if not the best RTS to ever be made.
I normally don’t appreciate being told to skip to the end of a video, but I wholeheartedly agree with this one. That’s a cinematic gaming experience if I ever saw one.
by far one of the best games ive ever watched. the joes really got close to getting the drop on the pros. but as time went on, you could see the mental fatigue kicking on on the joes and mistakes started kicking in. the pros did an excellent job of holding their ground. both sides played very well!
The sheer amount of firepower at the end... Well, they were probably going to destroy the planet anyway, so better sooner than later. Note to self: never give Blackheart a para if I want my computer to live.
still can´t wrap my head around the fact that still, after all these years after it´s release, no PC manages to run this fucking thing the way it was meant to be played. It kinda speaks for it! Great Cast! Love it.
LOUD mod get's very close to running butter smooth at like 10k units. I don't think loud will even to to +8 speed under this light load.(mostly because of projectiles and glitter trimming)
Lost by not building 1 SMD. It's kind of frustrating to watch but I know how it goes with games like that, sometimes you forget the basics when there's so much going on.
1:10:50 - exactly this. 2 Pros with the same available resources as 6 players - if they can weather the early storm, then it's almost inevitable that they'd win. Playing a 2v4 where you only have the starting resources for 2 players - that'd be a much stronger test!
If you just count core mexes, you are overlooking some things: (1) 6 ACUs can get a much faster start building the mexes and pgens and upgrading them to t2 (2) 6 ACUs gives a lot of extra firepower to take the middle, and there are a lot of mass points in the middle. FtXCommando ultimately had almost as much economy by himself as both of them put together.
@@armacham And the sad part is that with all that economy they still didn't use it that well in the end. Like with Commando boasting his 900 mass he should've been doing so much more with the game than he was, for example
Indeed, I believe your interpretation of their actions is most accurate. You have uncovered their true intent and educated this ignorant pleb. Cheers to you, good Sir.
How is it 2v6 if they get the same amount of safe base eco? It only takes so much APM to max out 40 mexes in 15 minutes and have almost a paragon-level economy. Then, a 3x economy for one player outscales 1x economies for 3 players.
well, mass/energy wise it's 6v6, but unit cap wise it's 2v6, the joes only need to build 300 units each to be on par with the max that the pro's can build, 400 units each, and you're suddenly at 2400 units, the Joes can't compete with that. it's 2000unit cap vs 6000 unit cap. If the Joe's leveraged that, they could have won with spam.
Also, it's the initial building power of 6 ACUs vs 2. The Joes had the wrong strategy, though. They played this more or less like a regular game with building bases in the middle, building navy and having a dedicated late-game guy. If you really want to beat two pros on Dual Gap you have to push early and hard, build factories (not entire bases) very close to the opponent's gap, airlift Coms to the front while one or two players constantly harrass with T1 and later T2 air (including drops). They had the drops and air pressure but just turtled up in the middle which is something that will always lose against pros.
This cast was just full of "fantastics"...fantastic gameplay, fantastic fails, fantastic win...oh yes, a couple fantastic cinema shots. :) Best cast in a long time imo!
Less than 5 minutes in and green is crying in chat guilt tripping purple into giving him resources and says, “You are literally worse than Hitler.” Classic
They could have won if they attacked with that GC alltogether, but they got split up and lost momentum. Sad, I watched the whole thing while listening to sabaton and it was goddamn epic. Huge thumbs up to Gyle for casting this.
No we should have never attacked with land in the first place. We gave them the mass for a paragon and killed like 6 t3 Mexes that were just rebuilt anyway. Blackheart and Blodir's plan was to harass mid so that our front players wasted their eco on units they didn't need, unfortunately, we took it a step further and gave them free mass as well.
Its weird. When i see a new normal gyle video i never watch it, but as soon as i read "Epic" i get triggered and nothing else matters anymore. Thanks for the cast and upload and pls pls pls more epics.
Then Gyle mentions that he's using his ASFs to keep the other ones alive to make it back and I'm just sitting there like no he didn't he let them all die in the first place by not engaging lol
Love the 2vX concept and love the challenge you threw out there. Of course I second Vordex7727 in asking you to be one of those 4! Btw, I know you said you get tons of replays on this map that you don't cast because they're turtlefests, but I honestly wouldn't mind one or two here and there - IDK about everyone else though.
The white and Grey player were driving me nuts. For Grey you had one job...navy. dish out T2 cruisers all day you got anti air, fire support, and refuel. They had nothing in the water for nearly 20 minutes. White air attack was horrid timing. Bombers in front of asfs?. Well I feel inspired if they can do it so can I.
The Joes did pretty damn well. Some blunders for sure, but if Crow hadn't died in the com drop and they had built SMD over the 3 middle T3 arty they would have won. Blodir was get pounded and some better co-ordination could have killed blackheart off.
You have that caster voice, and you are great at it!, great to see that this game is still going after so many years its made me want to download it again and get rekt by everyone online xD
The joe play was certainly joe worthy from time to time xD Not saying I would do much better, but they really failed at some critical moments, which gave both a good cringe and laugh haha, but still overall it was an awesome game to watch. Those nukes near the end though xD could have changed everything for the joe's, but accomplished nothing due to poor scouting and hasty decision making haha.
I know this is a super late response, but how do you search in the FAF replays? I go to the replay section under Vault, but I don't see any search function.
Bring up FAF. Click on the Replays button. Bottom center between Vaults and Units Database buttons. (DO NOT GO INTO VAULTS) On your right are search options. Type in Blackheart. Then below name type 1500 in min rating section (a lot of noobs named blackheart, this will bring up the real one) Scroll down on left side and search for games played on 2016-08-24
Hey Gyle, is there any way that you can organise a duel cast with brnk, TA4life or Zock coz that would be sooo good. No pressure its just an idea (not sure if your time zones work out or not)
Thank you Gyle, great cast! Really fun to whatch. Seldom have seen so much stationary T3 arty. - - - At 32:35 you say that Yellow's recommendation to build Aeon Cruisers for mobile AA "certainly should be" sarcastical. I am not so sure about that! The Aeon INFINITY-class cruisers seem to have the highest combined AA-dps of all cruisers (spooky.github.io/unitdb/#/XSS0202,UAS0202,URS0202,UES0202) AND they are able to throw their AA-projectiles against the attacking enemy aircraft to shoot it down before it arrives, while others, particularly the otherwise impressive SIREN-class cybran cruisers shoot behind the aircraft after it has passed, which seems to me less effective as the bombs or torpedos are already dropped by this time.
Regarding the salvation being supcom's most powerful weapon, the mavor is actually better in all regards. I've tested this in a private game. It breaks through shield coverage better and faster, it's more accurate, it does more pinpoint damage to a specific target, and it has great aoe. You'd think the salvation is better at breaking through heavy shielding but I tested this with a map that was basically completely covered with tessellated T3 Seraphim shields with no gaps. The mavor broke through and was able to slowly kill some shield gens while the salvation for the most part couldn't penetrate. So basically the mavor will break through any amount of shielding and go balls deep into the skull of whatever target you want, truly the ultimate penis of doom.
YES. Each paragon was super-expensive. In one sense, they were all "free" because with a paragon you have unlimited resources. EXCEPT it's not free, it's opportunity cost. Instead of 3 extra paragons they could have made actual weapons of war instead of building the world's biggest bomb inside their own base. There is a strategy in this game where aeon SACUs teleport to the enemy base and "sacrifice" themselves in order to instantly construct a paragon inside the enemy base. Then they can ctrl-k it to act as a super nuke. it's more of a joke than a real strategy because it is so expensive. Here, the Joes built THREE paragons together. It was like they attacked themselves with a bumbling version of a what is a silly strategy to begin with.
Sigh. I know I'm a total scrub at multiplayer, but I never can watch a cast without wanting to dive into the carnage! Sucks that I have neither skill not a good rig. Hoping to change that this Christmas. Would the MSI GE62 Apache Pro-004 provide the power needed to run this at medium to high settings with a constant 60fps? CPU is an Intel i7 6700HQ running at a variable speed of 2.3-3.5GHz, and the GPU is a 2GB NVidia GTX 960M.
Unfortunately you'll never get that sweet 60 frames constant through the whole game regardless of your system. and thats not really your fault, its just that the game engine simply wasnt designed to implement the multicore processors we have today. so when you play it with your nice quad core, you are literally only use one or maybe even 2 of those core. and it really starts to show the strain of this limitation when you start piling on units on the map in the thousands...
I think the THECROW4luck's assault and ultimately his demise would make a great movie. Gyle's masterful cast as always only added to the suspense. I don't think I've ever been captivated by anyone talking about a single ravager being built before but Gyle somehow made it happen. Furthermore his attempt to extract his Comm was some movie quality action. I mean the guy pulled his Comm out at the exact moment his defenses were being overrun, I mean when have you seen that happen in a game where it wasn't scripted?? And then its taken one step further when his Continental is ultimately shot down by Blodir while his teammates desperately tried to defend him in a raging air battle between three different people. Moments like these are only capable of happening in SupCom and that's why I think its one of if not the best RTS to ever be made.
Am I the only one who loves how he always goes 'BOOOM' after every big explosion??
Boom Baby*
i actually turned it into a soundboard lol. Might post it up on FAf Forums sometime ^^
drive.google.com/open?id=0B-wJQ9d9YAiadTlmaVB5ZXNHaDQ
Opposite for me... wish he didn't. Just makes me cringe.
Yesssss
blackhearts message when they attack at 31:17, "Nice some mass inc" XD
Freaking gold lol. The sheer nonchalant confidence in that statement
BRO!!! I totally missed that!! Excellent spot! That message was prophetic!
for anyone new to this channel, please press 1:07:28
You’re rude I had just reached the com drop
I normally don’t appreciate being told to skip to the end of a video, but I wholeheartedly agree with this one. That’s a cinematic gaming experience if I ever saw one.
10:37 the arty shoots the bomber out of the air XD haven't seen that one before!
How do u notice it? :O
Also noticed it. Has happened in a game I did as well
Bombing inties... artying bombers... both side paragons... good game!
WOW :D
Supcom is amazing because of every projectile being a tangible object. If only it used more than one core...
He's 2:54 'He's misclicked and gone Cybran' hahaha it never gets old xD
enginowich because Gyle doesn't like Cybran, so he's saying it's an accident 😂
@@Crescent-IV Really?!?!?!
4years later and he's still doing it!
by far one of the best games ive ever watched. the joes really got close to getting the drop on the pros. but as time went on, you could see the mental fatigue kicking on on the joes and mistakes started kicking in. the pros did an excellent job of holding their ground. both sides played very well!
The ending sequence with the experimental gunships and the air force swooping in behind them was some absolute kino
great matcherino
"you are literally worse than Hitler" lol
but not worse than me
I just watched a game with Blodir uploaded a few days ago... Now I'm watching a game he played 6 years ago... Man's a legend.
Always enjoy watching Blodir but his teammate Blackheart was kind of a snob this whole game tbh
For real, best caster to watch after a long week. I hold off watching each cast till Friday when it really matters.
The sheer amount of firepower at the end... Well, they were probably going to destroy the planet anyway, so better sooner than later. Note to self: never give Blackheart a para if I want my computer to live.
still can´t wrap my head around the fact that still, after all these years after it´s release, no PC manages to run this fucking thing the way it was meant to be played. It kinda speaks for it!
Great Cast! Love it.
LOUD mod get's very close to running butter smooth at like 10k units. I don't think loud will even to to +8 speed under this light load.(mostly because of projectiles and glitter trimming)
It is using a single CPU core. Even if you have a multi ore CPU.
Lost by not building 1 SMD. It's kind of frustrating to watch but I know how it goes with games like that, sometimes you forget the basics when there's so much going on.
1:10:50 - exactly this. 2 Pros with the same available resources as 6 players - if they can weather the early storm, then it's almost inevitable that they'd win. Playing a 2v4 where you only have the starting resources for 2 players - that'd be a much stronger test!
If you just count core mexes, you are overlooking some things: (1) 6 ACUs can get a much faster start building the mexes and pgens and upgrading them to t2 (2) 6 ACUs gives a lot of extra firepower to take the middle, and there are a lot of mass points in the middle. FtXCommando ultimately had almost as much economy by himself as both of them put together.
@@armacham And the sad part is that with all that economy they still didn't use it that well in the end. Like with Commando boasting his 900 mass he should've been doing so much more with the game than he was, for example
10:36
Lol, those light purple artillery units took out the bomber... But the bomber got revenge.
What does Blackheart call a Rhino? Rhinorino?
Indeed, I believe your interpretation of their actions is most accurate. You have uncovered their true intent and educated this ignorant pleb. Cheers to you, good Sir.
Cheeky bastard!!
How is it 2v6 if they get the same amount of safe base eco? It only takes so much APM to max out 40 mexes in 15 minutes and have almost a paragon-level economy. Then, a 3x economy for one player outscales 1x economies for 3 players.
Exactly what i was thinking... Should have had less core mass. They are pros with access to way more mass than the other team...
He talks about this exactly from 1:10:50
well, mass/energy wise it's 6v6, but unit cap wise it's 2v6, the joes only need to build 300 units each to be on par with the max that the pro's can build, 400 units each, and you're suddenly at 2400 units, the Joes can't compete with that. it's 2000unit cap vs 6000 unit cap. If the Joe's leveraged that, they could have won with spam.
Also, it's the initial building power of 6 ACUs vs 2.
The Joes had the wrong strategy, though. They played this more or less like a regular game with building bases in the middle, building navy and having a dedicated late-game guy. If you really want to beat two pros on Dual Gap you have to push early and hard, build factories (not entire bases) very close to the opponent's gap, airlift Coms to the front while one or two players constantly harrass with T1 and later T2 air (including drops).
They had the drops and air pressure but just turtled up in the middle which is something that will always lose against pros.
There's another game before this? That needs to be casted...
Watch the "Ride of the Soul Rippers" at 2x XD
1:07:29
we got blackheart, he's misclicked and gone cybran
XDDDDDDDD
This cast was just full of "fantastics"...fantastic gameplay, fantastic fails, fantastic win...oh yes, a couple fantastic cinema shots. :) Best cast in a long time imo!
This is one of the best FAF casts
This has been my favorite video so far!
That's what I thought the minute this game started. It's not at all a 2v4 but a 4v4 with 2 allies out from the beginning.
Went out laughing when the Expi gunships came over the hill and u went like a crazy trumpet :D :D
Less than 5 minutes in and green is crying in chat guilt tripping purple into giving him resources and says, “You are literally worse than Hitler.”
Classic
Love this clip. Would love to see more pros vs joes. Any chance you could host something like this? Once a month maybe?
How does Gyle always miss the funny chat conversations?
In the last Phantom game one of the guy's goes "I'm from Australia" and the other guy's like "Ah, the land of the Joseph Fritzel"
Love the last part, just gets freakin SHREDDED!
Blackheart was on a good humor today xD
Mucherino.
They could have won if they attacked with that GC alltogether, but they got split up and lost momentum. Sad, I watched the whole thing while listening to sabaton and it was goddamn epic. Huge thumbs up to Gyle for casting this.
No we should have never attacked with land in the first place. We gave them the mass for a paragon and killed like 6 t3 Mexes that were just rebuilt anyway. Blackheart and Blodir's plan was to harass mid so that our front players wasted their eco on units they didn't need, unfortunately, we took it a step further and gave them free mass as well.
"He miss clickednd got Cybrans" hahaha that never gets old xD
Love this weird setup.
Joe team did better than expected!
Absolutely EPIC - very entertainig game!!Nice 2 See u back again Gyle - bog thx for Casting !!
blackheart & blodir vs 3 random ppl and gyle :D
watch it Powder is my Broseph
"...vs *6 random people..."
I think it needs to be at least Blodir & blackheart vs 10 random people.
Its weird. When i see a new normal gyle video i never watch it, but as soon as i read "Epic" i get triggered and nothing else matters anymore. Thanks for the cast and upload and pls pls pls more epics.
44:44 How nice of Commando's ASFs to turn around and leave the strat bombers alone, lol!
Then Gyle mentions that he's using his ASFs to keep the other ones alive to make it back and I'm just sitting there like no he didn't he let them all die in the first place by not engaging lol
51:20 - "their only T3 artillery" well yes, but the Scathis casually rolling through the screen
KingDong left the game early, and neither the other players nor Gyle noticed it. I find it hilarious x)
Fun match to watch, great commentating, thanks!
Blackheart really became blackhearted and turned into a living meme. Ripperino in pepperino.
this is the pick me up I needed today.
“Paragino? I makerino.”
Famous last words before Blackheart ends a planet’s entire career.
Love the 2vX concept and love the challenge you threw out there. Of course I second Vordex7727 in asking you to be one of those 4! Btw, I know you said you get tons of replays on this map that you don't cast because they're turtlefests, but I honestly wouldn't mind one or two here and there - IDK about everyone else though.
Didn't take 5 minutes for this battle to start getting interesting, Blackheart already accusing his teammate of being worse than Hitler lol 4:25
omg i recently played with both crow4luck and kingdong some phantom games :D
21:14
What. A com-drop. In the middle of the enemies base? With minimal support? This man is insane.
I know and I love it
love this video
I can't wait until the next one
Blackheart is using so many Tactical Memes™ while keeping good apm at the same time. I really like that.
German meme machine.
Kaboom!! Thanks gyle
No anti nuke in their forward fire-base. Zomg - That was the epic fail of that match. They might've won it otherwise.
"How to make antinukes?" - That pretty much explains why there wasn't any.
Ride of the Soul Rippers. X3
We need a "rino" counter.
A counterino?
Dare I say that's perfecterino?
I get so hyped every time I see you post. Thank you for helping to keep this wonderful game alive :)
The white and Grey player were driving me nuts. For Grey you had one job...navy. dish out T2 cruisers all day you got anti air, fire support, and refuel. They had nothing in the water for nearly 20 minutes. White air attack was horrid timing. Bombers in front of asfs?. Well I feel inspired if they can do it so can I.
The Joes did pretty damn well. Some blunders for sure, but if Crow hadn't died in the com drop and they had built SMD over the 3 middle T3 arty they would have won. Blodir was get pounded and some better co-ordination could have killed blackheart off.
You have that caster voice, and you are great at it!, great to see that this game is still going after so many years its made me want to download it again and get rekt by everyone online xD
Awesome game to cast, love a bit of balanced inba
The joe play was certainly joe worthy from time to time xD Not saying I would do much better, but they really failed at some critical moments, which gave both a good cringe and laugh haha, but still overall it was an awesome game to watch.
Those nukes near the end though xD could have changed everything for the joe's, but accomplished nothing due to poor scouting and hasty decision making haha.
Yeah the use of those nuke subs made me mad.. Why the hell would you send two nukes in the same exact spot? Such a waste...
@@kunknown2340 Mainly to overwhelm an antinuke that has only one missile built already, but in the area he nuked there wasn't an antinuke anyway.
I would love to see more games like this
Why Blackhearts ends all words with -RINO ???
Blackheart and Blodir did this the day before and lost.
replay id / link?
Mitja Mieskolainen
search blodir in FAF replays.
date is 24/08 an enemy player is named silvester the cat.
I know this is a super late response, but how do you search in the FAF replays? I go to the replay section under Vault, but I don't see any search function.
Bring up FAF. Click on the Replays button. Bottom center between Vaults and Units Database buttons. (DO NOT GO INTO VAULTS)
On your right are search options. Type in Blackheart. Then below name type 1500 in min rating section (a lot of noobs named blackheart, this will bring up the real one)
Scroll down on left side and search for games played on 2016-08-24
Thank you! I swear, I miss the most obvious things sometimes. Ha, anyway, I appreciate that!
TheCROWFORLUCK takin that Boeing airplane ride!!
One of the best
This game is what established blodir as "The Wall" for me
Awesome game... can't mess with the blackheart!!!
Now this match was crazy. That interceptor though.
What a fantastic game
37:00 epic trailer like sup com battle!
49:22 Artillery hits blodir's ASF lower left
The pros have the advantage in a game like this for sure. Being down a player doesn't do much if your eco is the same.
you should add the previous game with blodir and bh vs 6 on the same map to your casting list
a good map would be black heart (if I got it right) the 2v2v2 map.
How can I change the mini map so that the view is not cartographic?
were can i get the real replay to dicsect it
Hey Gyle, is there any way that you can organise a duel cast with brnk, TA4life or Zock coz that would be sooo good. No pressure its just an idea (not sure if your time zones work out or not)
Thank you Gyle, great cast! Really fun to whatch. Seldom have seen so much stationary T3 arty. - - - At 32:35 you say that Yellow's recommendation to build Aeon Cruisers for mobile AA "certainly should be" sarcastical. I am not so sure about that! The Aeon INFINITY-class cruisers seem to have the highest combined AA-dps of all cruisers (spooky.github.io/unitdb/#/XSS0202,UAS0202,URS0202,UES0202) AND they are able to throw their AA-projectiles against the attacking enemy aircraft to shoot it down before it arrives, while others, particularly the otherwise impressive SIREN-class cybran cruisers shoot behind the aircraft after it has passed, which seems to me less effective as the bombs or torpedos are already dropped by this time.
I guess he missed the "for mobile AA" part and read just they were the best (overall), which was the comment for then
Regarding the salvation being supcom's most powerful weapon, the mavor is actually better in all regards. I've tested this in a private game. It breaks through shield coverage better and faster, it's more accurate, it does more pinpoint damage to a specific target, and it has great aoe. You'd think the salvation is better at breaking through heavy shielding but I tested this with a map that was basically completely covered with tessellated T3 Seraphim shields with no gaps. The mavor broke through and was able to slowly kill some shield gens while the salvation for the most part couldn't penetrate. So basically the mavor will break through any amount of shielding and go balls deep into the skull of whatever target you want, truly the ultimate penis of doom.
Where can I get this map? I mean for my basic FA version ;)
please more of these sort of skirmishes. pro vs joe
I guess I can be a Joe in this competition against blackheart and eh... the purple guy.
Wow never thought to see you here
Lord Cylarne
Fucking bril cast as usual, gyle
10:35 arty hitting t1 bomber out of the sky XD
awesome
Вах. Прикольно . Первый раз вижу такое , 2 против 6
Blackheart's commentary makes this difficult to watch, I guess the obscenity spam at 3:43 was the first indicator :v
I was enjoying Blackhearts funny Commentarino while drinking my capuccino
joes made the critical mistake of building more paragons instead of actually using the bloody thing to build arty
YES. Each paragon was super-expensive. In one sense, they were all "free" because with a paragon you have unlimited resources. EXCEPT it's not free, it's opportunity cost. Instead of 3 extra paragons they could have made actual weapons of war instead of building the world's biggest bomb inside their own base.
There is a strategy in this game where aeon SACUs teleport to the enemy base and "sacrifice" themselves in order to instantly construct a paragon inside the enemy base. Then they can ctrl-k it to act as a super nuke. it's more of a joke than a real strategy because it is so expensive. Here, the Joes built THREE paragons together. It was like they attacked themselves with a bumbling version of a what is a silly strategy to begin with.
300 more subs gyle!!!! *grabs confetti*
not enough dakka
Sigh. I know I'm a total scrub at multiplayer, but I never can watch a cast without wanting to dive into the carnage! Sucks that I have neither skill not a good rig. Hoping to change that this Christmas.
Would the MSI GE62 Apache Pro-004 provide the power needed to run this at medium to high settings with a constant 60fps? CPU is an Intel i7 6700HQ running at a variable speed of 2.3-3.5GHz, and the GPU is a 2GB NVidia GTX 960M.
Unfortunately you'll never get that sweet 60 frames constant through the whole game regardless of your system. and thats not really your fault, its just that the game engine simply wasnt designed to implement the multicore processors we have today. so when you play it with your nice quad core, you are literally only use one or maybe even 2 of those core. and it really starts to show the strain of this limitation when you start piling on units on the map in the thousands...
Blackheart you memer.
BOOM BABY!
what did they all build carrierino for? Is it any good as AA?
35:00 epic fail with the bricks. Should have focus fired them
I was yelling at the Joes for dumb ass moves up until 50:30 but their desperation tactics finally paid off
Blackheart has a black heart
Blackheart is my favourite
Honestly Blackheart and Blodir are fucking prodigys at this game. The average joe team even had a couple decent players.