I absolutely love your Burrfection Ryky Edition Naniwa 800 and 3000. That said the King 800 for $25 on Amazon is a very good stone and a fantastic value. I bought both. Hope you add more grits to the Ryky Edition Naniwa stones.
Price is an argument but the King wears so much faster than the Chosera. Don´t get me wrong, the King is good. Buying it is no mistake if you´re fine with soaking before use but the slurry it produces is brown instead of black. It contains more stone than metal. That´s also the reason why it cuts so fast. You sait it´ll last 10 years. For kitchen knifes probabls yes but I´ve gone through half of the 36mm thick King 1000 in under two years in the woodworking shop. That´s because it has to be flattened regularly and I work almost exclusively with hand tools, so I have to sharpen a lot of plane irons and chisels. When I´m in the shop for the whole day I might flatten the stone two or three times. Woodworking and sharpening go hand in hand. You might sharpen your chisel after chopping a few mortises and plane irons might get dull a few times a day. That King stone is all you need for that as long as you don´t have to repair a chipped cutting edge but there are other stones I like more. The Naniwa Aotoishi (the green brick of joy) is my go to stone in the kitchen and the wood shop. It´s ideal to just maintain a cutting edge. When you feel your knife, plane iron or chisel is getting dull but is still somewhat cutting, the green brick is all you need. It´s much harder than the King, it still works reasonably fast but leaves an edge that doesn´t neccessarly need any more refinement. It´s also splash and go and I wonder if I missed something because I haven´t seen it on this channel yet. It´s a giant hunk of abrasive material and it´ll last me probably more than a decade.
I'm using the 800 Chosera then jumping up to a 2000 Naniwa P-320, then 4000, 6000, 8000 Shapton glass and I totally agree the chosera gives a fast enough cut I'm throughly satisfied with what it does however the 2000 naniwa P-320 is my latest stone in this progression...do you think the P-320 is the right grit to fill the gap? I'm curious as to what you think since you've probably tried them all what's your thoughts? I'm not one to chip my knives so going to a 400 grit probably isn't necessary knock on wood...Thanks your videos have definitely steered me in the right direction and good points just the same as I'm able to achieve burrfection...haha
I like the King's Being in a position to spend a lot of money on products.....no bragging just have a good paying job! They don't cut as fast.... I Am referring to the King 1000 versus Chosera or Cerax. Mainly sharpening cheap stainless steel knives from Wiltshire in Australia. Normally the knives come without a horrible carbide fixed angle sharpening tool which I throw to the axe pile and use a whetstone. Kings are nice just require more work in my opinion but for the price definitely worth the extra yards. Peace Aussie
@question @compare I understand that you love your chosera 800 but wanted to see a video compare the chosera 800 and 1000 because that they are so close. Wanted to see how to chose between the two. Thank you when you have the time
800 is closer to most 1k stones, the 1k is more like a 1500. That being said I would steer clear of Choseras and the Naniwa Pros because they are notorious for cracking even when properly cared for. Do a little digging and you'll see what I'm talking about
Thank you so much for these videos. So its off to buy a King 1,000/6000 combination stone and keep my old Norton India (I think 320 grit grade) to practice on old knives!
dear +burrfection thanks for another great video :) I'm wondering how the kds 1000 compares to the king k45 home stone. would greatly appreciate your expertise as I'm not sure of the difference.
Hey Ryky #question, after much research i've decided to finally get a nice chef's knife. I decided on the enso hd knifes, and was wondering if the Chosera 800 would be a good first stone to buy? Splash and go is important to me and I have several dull knifes to practice with until my technique is good enough to sharpen my more expensive knifes.
Love your videos! I'm only just starting to familiarize myself with sharpening and polishing stones and I find your videos really informative. I have a quick question though. WIth the King KDS stone, do they sell the 1000 grit stone by itself? Is the 6000 grit stone really necessary, or would you recommend a different polishing stone?
yeah, this is the stone here amzn.to/2xxcCbs. 6000 is NOT necessary. it's only if you want to add a mirror polish on your knife. it won't make your knife sharper if it was not sharpened properly on the lower grit, say an 800-1200 grit. i have plenty of videos showing you i can get a razor edge with 140, 320, 500 grit stones. just go to my channel page and scroll down to "sharpening sessions" and you'll see.
buying wüsthof knifes for 55% off in solingen with small problems on the wooden handel or a scratch on the spine is a cheap knife! got 7 knifes for 300€ *hrhr*
Do I really need a 3000+ stone? I mean what if I get either Chosera 800 or King 1000 (one grit) and then get a strop. Will I get a comparable result with 1000 + 6000?
there is a segment in another video where he discusses this. i personally have both the cerax 1000 and chosera 800. their cutting speed is extremely similar. too similar. but in the end, the stone that you like better will depend on what kind of tactile feel you like better. if you like a more natural feeling, as i do, you will like the cerax better.
I'll probably use my King combo until I hit the rubber separator. It suits my needs for all my blades.
yeah cerax vs the king please. King KDS is my very first stone cause you recommended it for beginners hehe
on the way
Burrfection thank you will be waiting! :)
Miss watching you showing the sharpening! Thanks for the great videos.
I absolutely love your Burrfection Ryky Edition Naniwa 800 and 3000. That said the King 800 for $25 on Amazon is a very good stone and a fantastic value. I bought both. Hope you add more grits to the Ryky Edition Naniwa stones.
I appreciate that you do everything in one take. Decreases your time in editing.
Price is an argument but the King wears so much faster than the Chosera. Don´t get me wrong, the King is good. Buying it is no mistake if you´re fine with soaking before use but the slurry it produces is brown instead of black. It contains more stone than metal. That´s also the reason why it cuts so fast. You sait it´ll last 10 years. For kitchen knifes probabls yes but I´ve gone through half of the 36mm thick King 1000 in under two years in the woodworking shop. That´s because it has to be flattened regularly and I work almost exclusively with hand tools, so I have to sharpen a lot of plane irons and chisels. When I´m in the shop for the whole day I might flatten the stone two or three times. Woodworking and sharpening go hand in hand. You might sharpen your chisel after chopping a few mortises and plane irons might get dull a few times a day. That King stone is all you need for that as long as you don´t have to repair a chipped cutting edge but there are other stones I like more. The Naniwa Aotoishi (the green brick of joy) is my go to stone in the kitchen and the wood shop. It´s ideal to just maintain a cutting edge. When you feel your knife, plane iron or chisel is getting dull but is still somewhat cutting, the green brick is all you need. It´s much harder than the King, it still works reasonably fast but leaves an edge that doesn´t neccessarly need any more refinement. It´s also splash and go and I wonder if I missed something because I haven´t seen it on this channel yet. It´s a giant hunk of abrasive material and it´ll last me probably more than a decade.
Thanks for all the great info. Your videos are Addictive man....
I'm using the 800 Chosera then jumping up to a 2000 Naniwa P-320, then 4000, 6000, 8000 Shapton glass and I totally agree the chosera gives a fast enough cut I'm throughly satisfied with what it does however the 2000 naniwa P-320 is my latest stone in this progression...do you think the P-320 is the right grit to fill the gap? I'm curious as to what you think since you've probably tried them all what's your thoughts? I'm not one to chip my knives so going to a 400 grit probably isn't necessary knock on wood...Thanks your videos have definitely steered me in the right direction and good points just the same as I'm able to achieve burrfection...haha
I like the King's
Being in a position to spend a lot of money on products.....no bragging just have a good paying job!
They don't cut as fast.... I Am referring to the King 1000 versus Chosera or Cerax.
Mainly sharpening cheap stainless steel knives from Wiltshire in Australia.
Normally the knives come without a horrible carbide fixed angle sharpening tool which I throw to the axe pile and use a whetstone.
Kings are nice just require more work in my opinion but for the price definitely worth the extra yards.
Peace Aussie
@question @compare I understand that you love your chosera 800 but wanted to see a video compare the chosera 800 and 1000 because that they are so close. Wanted to see how to chose between the two. Thank you when you have the time
800 is closer to most 1k stones, the 1k is more like a 1500. That being said I would steer clear of Choseras and the Naniwa Pros because they are notorious for cracking even when properly cared for. Do a little digging and you'll see what I'm talking about
Thank you so much for these videos.
So its off to buy a King 1,000/6000 combination stone and keep my old Norton India (I think 320 grit grade) to practice on old knives!
yeah. bur.re/king it's great
Ordered the King deluxe, thank you
dear +burrfection thanks for another great video :) I'm wondering how the kds 1000 compares to the king k45 home stone. would greatly appreciate your expertise as I'm not sure of the difference.
I enjoy watching your old videos that you are brining back from your other channel.
Are you going to download any new videos soon ?
yeah. After next week, 100% new videos.
Hey Ryky #question, after much research i've decided to finally get a nice chef's knife. I decided on the enso hd knifes, and was wondering if the Chosera 800 would be a good first stone to buy? Splash and go is important to me and I have several dull knifes to practice with until my technique is good enough to sharpen my more expensive knifes.
Another great video... thanks
Dude, you have a great puppy!
yup. a GSD
My first two Japanese stones are the Chosera 800 and 3000. I am wondering how these will perform on newer metals such as elmax and s35.
is there a noticeable difference between the KDS and the KW65 (cheaper) version?
Love your videos! I'm only just starting to familiarize myself with sharpening and polishing stones and I find your videos really informative. I have a quick question though. WIth the King KDS stone, do they sell the 1000 grit stone by itself? Is the 6000 grit stone really necessary, or would you recommend a different polishing stone?
yeah, this is the stone here amzn.to/2xxcCbs. 6000 is NOT necessary. it's only if you want to add a mirror polish on your knife. it won't make your knife sharper if it was not sharpened properly on the lower grit, say an 800-1200 grit. i have plenty of videos showing you i can get a razor edge with 140, 320, 500 grit stones. just go to my channel page and scroll down to "sharpening sessions" and you'll see.
Great channel , keep it up
Awesome!
Great video as usual
Paid $64 for my chosera a week ago from Cutlery & More thru Amazon. 🙂👍
That's a cheap infectious disease. I usually pay more.
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@@toadamine lol
Cracked yet?
@@AnarchAngel1 nope, had it several years now...
Do u have any more jeans for the gaw I wanted to get a pair today but don't see them up anymore
jeans are all gone
for butcher knife,
which one are good/worth it, 1000 grit or 800?
CErax 1000 or Naniwa pro 800 burrfectionstore.com/collections/whetstones-sharpening-kits,
i use the naniwa 800/3000 for all of my knives
buying wüsthof knifes for 55% off in solingen with small problems on the wooden handel or a scratch on the spine is a cheap knife! got 7 knifes for 300€ *hrhr*
we don't have that option here. so jealous.
Do I really need a 3000+ stone? I mean what if I get either Chosera 800 or King 1000 (one grit) and then get a strop. Will I get a comparable result with 1000 + 6000?
i personally don't go above the chosera 3000 for my knives. watch this video ua-cam.com/video/xdsakEafFRU/v-deo.html
Is the Naniwa professionall the same as the Chosera?
yes. but naniwa pro has no plastic base pre-attached. check out the Ryky edition bur.re/kits
Do you have a chosera 800 vs cerax 1000 comparison video?
there is a segment in another video where he discusses this. i personally have both the cerax 1000 and chosera 800. their cutting speed is extremely similar. too similar. but in the end, the stone that you like better will depend on what kind of tactile feel you like better. if you like a more natural feeling, as i do, you will like the cerax better.
In that case you're paying price differential on soaking vs splash
Did you soak the stones?
Iiiiiiiii feeeeel soooo alive - stones
where is your bracelet bro
What kind of flattening Stone do you have?
atoma 140 amzn.to/2xH1GYv
My one question because I'm being lazy, why water instead of a light weight oil. My dad always use a 3 in 1 oil on his whetstone.
water is easier to clean and won't load up the stones.
but you don't need to clean a stone if it's just for you. It seems much smoother, nicer?
Once they are loaded up you don't have to add anything.
@@Ldunk by clean he means wash out the metal that are engrained into the stones that impedes further sharpening