Excellent instruction as usual. I learned this pattern 20 yrs ago and have toyed with variations, but none with weapons change up. I'm excited to play with this! Thank you so much for bringing integrity to a sport so full of ego maniacs. I send links to your videos to all my 'fight friends'.
Remember learning this over 20 years ago and my immediate reaction was “wow! You mean martial arts can be fun! L O L!“ Doing this drill developed my concentration to a razors edge. In my particular school we were really trainTo make light contact with the person so if you’re blocked wasn’t there when you had a lapse in concentration you were struck. That danger element Help me to focus and make my movements precise and economical. But what I remember the most was how fun it was how you would almost be laughing while doing the exercises as your partner would change the speed the timing for the cadence of the strikes coming at you I’ve never encountered this in any other martial art that’s what made me fall in love with Filipino martial arts for life and I’m 63 years old now
Fantastic material that effectively can be applied in all areas of self-defense. For building precision, sensitivity, rhythm & flow, these JKD Flow drills will add dynamism to anyone's martial arts curriculum. Thanks for sharing. High Regards, JW Networks
My pleasure John. Thanks for the informative videos. I've been a little out of practice lately and your videos are great reminders of things I need to work on. Regards, Steve
John: Always enjoy your work and flow. Have used your Hubud & Sumbrada videos many times with beginners at the studio where I'm a student. Best wishes on your current endeavors & if ever in the Nashville area, we'd be honored to have you train with us.
This is not a new question MoonLit. JKD is not a style in and of itself...Rather it is a philosophy of training. Therefore we use drills, techniques, and methods from other styles in our training. It is not a "hodge-podge", but a coordinated method using complimentary training techniques. In this case we are showing a drill taken from the Filipino martial arts which can be used to develop certain attributes we are trying to enhance. I hope this answers your question.
It should be understood that JKD is a conceptual study and Jun Fan Gung Fu is a technical study. JKD doesnt necessarily have to be the style that Bruce Lee practiced. That was his personal manifestation of JKD. As long as concepts such as timing, sensitivity, line recognition etc are being used, JKD can be many things. Hope this helps.' Respectfully, Steve Kohn
-MoonLit: JKD is a training method or philosophy...not a style. We use elements from different arts to train ourselves to "Respond like an echo. Adapt like a shadow." ...as Bruce Lee put it. We use filipino weapons systems to train attributes as well as to prepare for a weapons encounter.
Hey Sifu John. I am a JunFan/Kali/BJJ instructor in SC. I just stumbled upon your videos- fantastic. I am curious, if possible, can you explain what's happening @ 6:38 that you bring the knife around the arm, rather than cut up like the high wing. I see the footwork that put you off line of the stick. Of course I understand there are 1000 "you could" or "what if". Thanks!
bastonydaga Absolutely. The reason I am showing that particular tech is that the high wing would make no sense with a short weapon. Rather, shifting my centerline (body mech. & footwork) allows me to deal with the attack with a much more efficient outside deflection with my knife to his arm. Make sense? You're right, there are many possibilities. This was just an example of how sometimes stick movements cannot translate directly to a shorter weapon. Glad you like the vids. Blessings and Strength! John
Sifu John - Its been awhle since i did kali and can't remember how to defend to angle 3 (low right to left swing). I notice the sumbrada drills use angles 1, 1, 4, 5 and 2 patterns. Do we use the same parry as inside deflect (blocking an angle 1) to defend against an angle 3? Or is there another way to defend against angle 3?
Brandon Durham Hey Brandon, You can defend many ways. (IE like an angle 1 or 5) Your position relative to the attack will help determine the most efficient method in the moment. Make sense? Blessings and Strength! John
YES! Clearly it is! Thanks for the feedback. Did you by chance read the intro to the video? I've copied it for you here: --The First installment in a 3 part series demonstrating a Filipino Martial Art flow drill known as "Sumbrada".-- If you've read other places on the channel, you'll see that I teach elements of FMA passed on to me by my instructors. Why we teach these elements is explained elsewhere. I use the labels on the channel to allow for searches from likeminded folks to find the videos. I hope the content is a help! John
Why on the first strike do you tie up your stick with the cross check when you can grab the stick directly with your left hand and strike to your opponents head? I'd rather hit someone in the head than their belly
....because it's a DRILL. Operating off of a set pattern. That pattern can, and is, changed. When doing this different options are explored and trained...including the one you listed...and many others. The totality of the drill could not be contained in these short videos.
You're absolutely right. Well done. Now let's concentrate on the heart of the matter...shall we? LOL! (Which I have explained more than once already.) I am a JKD/Kali practitioner...I am not purely a FMA practitioner. Therefore, to do honor to my instructors I do not try to come off as just that. JKD is a concept, a philosophy of training. Bruce Lee's JKD was expressed through his Jun Fan curriculum. Guro Dan Inosanto expresses his JKD through the arts that he teaches....many of which have Filipino heritage or influence. I am his student, and I teach what I have been taught by him (and others). What I am demonstrating here would be called "incorrect" by many pure FMA practitioners as there will be influences from other arts present...it's not "pure" FMA. (It is interesting to note that because of the sheer diversity found in the PI most of them wouldn't agree on what is "correct" or "pure" either.) Therefore, as a JKD/Kali practitioner I use methods from FMA, Muay Thai, Silat, Savate, CSW, BJJ, Boxing, Fencing, etc. to train attributes and techniques. This drill, along with hubud and others, is used widely in the Inosanto lineage because of the attributes it helps to develop. Attributes which are universal in their application (meaning I can develop strength from lifting weights which I can than use in my grappling or boxing or carrying luggage at the airport). The attributes gained from these drills can help me be a better practitioner of Jun Fan, or whatever else I wish to train. They can also help my boxing, wing chun, etc. I say all of that by way of explanation for this statement: This drill is not being taught here to develop FMA people, but rather to develop attributes for fighting. Therefore it is not because of ignorance or disrespect that I include the term "JKD" in the title. It is simply a call to the people who will find it valuable for their own training and recognize the intent of this series of videos. I hope that makes sense and answers your critique. If it doesn't, please empty your cup and read it again. :-)
JKD is a type of Martial arts that has no style at all so you can fit with all styles, it has no form so you can fit with all forms, I'm a Filipino and I use the Martial Arts of Jeet Kune Do for protection and for expressing my feelings
Where is the JKD? Just curious... Pretty good explanation on a corrdination exercise from FMA.. But this has nothing to do with JKD.. Look I get it... But Guro Dan catches alot of shit because of this exact reason... His followers do not understand that they must separate the arts... Let's be precise guys. Let's be honest with ourselves and others... Take JKD out of this title please Guro. Do yourself and your students and Guro Dan's legacy correct
Hello sir, thank you for your note. "Pretty good explanation"....why thank you. Please allow me to address what I believe to be your point. Jeet Kune Do is a filter through which we view our training. It is NOT just the Jun Fan martial arts. We DO understand and we DO separate the arts. However, the JKD flow teaches us to INTEGRATE the arts so that we may "respond like an echo and adapt like a shadow." I am a JKD/Kali practitioner (among other things)...I am not purely a FMA practitioner or a follower of Jun Fan. Therefore, to do honor to my instructors I do not try to come off as just that. JKD as taught by Guro Inosanto is a concept, a philosophy of training. Thus the moniker, "Jeet Kune Do Concepts." Bruce Lee's JKD was expressed through his Jun Fan curriculum. Guro Dan expresses his JKD through the arts that he teaches....many of which have Filipino heritage or influence. I am his student, and I teach what I have been taught by him (and others). What I am demonstrating here would be called "incorrect" by many pure FMA practitioners as there will be influences from other arts present...it's not "pure" FMA. (It is interesting to note that because of the sheer diversity found in the PI most of them wouldn't agree on what is "correct" or "pure" either.) Therefore, as a JKD/Kali practitioner I use methods from FMA, Muay Thai, Silat, Savate, CSW, BJJ, Boxing, Fencing, etc. to train attributes and techniques. This drill, along with hubud and others, is used widely in the Inosanto lineage because of the attributes it helps to develop. Attributes which are universal in their application (meaning I can develop strength from lifting weights which I can than use in my grappling or boxing or carrying luggage at the airport). The attributes gained from these drills can help me be a better practitioner of Jun Fan, or whatever else I wish to train. (They can also help my boxing, wing chun, etc.) I say all of that by way of explanation for this statement: This drill is not being taught here to develop FMA people, but rather to develop attributes for fighting. Therefore it is not because of ignorance or disrespect that I include the term "JKD" in the title. It is simply a call to the people who will find it valuable for their own training and recognize the intent of this series of videos. Looking at your personal listed information, I am surprised you did not understand this. I am honoring my Guro, his instructors, and all of my instructors. I hope that makes sense and answers your critique. If it doesn't, please empty your cup and read it again. :-) Respect, John Koeshall
@@JohnKoeshall How long have you train with Guro Dan? Did he instruct you to call FMA JKD?? Because I know for a fact he would not approve this title. He catches so much shit because of this stuff. In fact. I got in trouble the first time I trained with him in 2002 because of something similar.. My advice.. Call it what it is.. FMA needs probably more pushing anyway
@@IlokanoWarrior Yes he did! But FMA is NOT by any means JKD! I have heard this from Guro Dan himself, in person, more than once. And Guro catches alot of shit because of people that cant understand the difference!
@@GuroBillyBrown Thanks for your advice. I've been training with Guro since 1989 (four camps last year). You know for a fact? I don't claim to know much about his opinions, however I do know for a fact that he wouldn't approve of people arguing over semantics or something as trivial as the title of a video series. I was in no way ever claiming that this is JKD instead of FMA. I attempted to explain this again in the first response to you. In fact, if you WATCH the video, you might here at 25 seconds in where I clearly state this is a drill taken from FMA. The whole intent of this series is to show a JKD person's perspective on different training methodologies that we use. This drill just so happens to have it's origins in the PI. What you are seeing is a naming convention to allow people who are interested in this material to find it. Let me try to clarify this even more for you...have you ever eaten Chinese food that wasn't cooked by a Chinese cook? This is FMA presented by a JKD man. Let's be clear, these videos are not aimed at the FMA community...they're aimed at anyone who finds them interesting. If you don't, you don't have to watch them. :-) People give Guro a lot of grief for a lot of reasons. I get grief from time to time too....as all instructors who are out there do. That's what happens when you lead. Reading your response to @IlokanoWarrior, FMA is not JFJKD, but FMA can be seen through JKD Concepts. I answered you in an attempt to clarify my reasoning, not to get into an argument or "discussion".
Excellent instruction as usual. I learned this pattern 20 yrs ago and have toyed with variations, but none with weapons change up. I'm excited to play with this! Thank you so much for bringing integrity to a sport so full of ego maniacs. I send links to your videos to all my 'fight friends'.
Remember learning this over 20 years ago and my immediate reaction was “wow! You mean martial arts can be fun! L O L!“ Doing this drill developed my concentration to a razors edge. In my particular school we were really trainTo make light contact with the person so if you’re blocked wasn’t there when you had a lapse in concentration you were struck. That danger element Help me to focus and make my movements precise and economical. But what I remember the most was how fun it was how you would almost be laughing while doing the exercises as your partner would change the speed the timing for the cadence of the strikes coming at you I’ve never encountered this in any other martial art that’s what made me fall in love with Filipino martial arts for life and I’m 63 years old now
Fantastic material that effectively can be applied in all areas of self-defense. For building precision, sensitivity, rhythm & flow,
these JKD Flow drills will add dynamism to anyone's martial arts curriculum. Thanks for sharing.
High Regards,
JW Networks
Thank you! Appreciate your feedback!
My pleasure John. Thanks for the informative videos. I've been a little out of practice lately and your videos are great reminders of things I need to work on.
Regards,
Steve
Thank you for this video. This is great for my home training when I'm not in class.
So happy it can be of use to you! Appreciate your feedback!
One of the best instructions I've seen!
Thanks Jason!
Very well paced and professionally demonstrated, sir!
Thank you, sir!
Thanks for the comment James! I hope you enjoy the "new ideas"...let me know how it goes for you. I'm glad you find value in the series!
John: Always enjoy your work and flow. Have used your Hubud & Sumbrada videos many times with beginners at the studio where I'm a student. Best wishes on your current endeavors & if ever in the Nashville area, we'd be honored to have you train with us.
Thank you! Appreciate your feedback! I'd love to come see you guys sometime.
This is not a new question MoonLit. JKD is not a style in and of itself...Rather it is a philosophy of training. Therefore we use drills, techniques, and methods from other styles in our training. It is not a "hodge-podge", but a coordinated method using complimentary training techniques. In this case we are showing a drill taken from the Filipino martial arts which can be used to develop certain attributes we are trying to enhance. I hope this answers your question.
JKD is best for self-defense in street fighting and also for real life fighting situation. It is very handy than any other system.
Samudrajit Roy I agree! "Using no way as way."
Yeah Jhon absolutely ""Using no way as way." ,.. a Circle with no circumference .
It should be understood that JKD is a conceptual study and Jun Fan Gung Fu is a technical study. JKD doesnt necessarily have to be the style that Bruce Lee practiced. That was his personal manifestation of JKD. As long as concepts such as timing, sensitivity, line recognition etc are being used, JKD can be many things.
Hope this helps.'
Respectfully,
Steve Kohn
Thanks Ashraf! Hope you're training is going well.
Thanks for the input Steve. Good description.
-MoonLit: JKD is a training method or philosophy...not a style. We use elements from different arts to train ourselves to "Respond like an echo. Adapt like a shadow." ...as Bruce Lee put it. We use filipino weapons systems to train attributes as well as to prepare for a weapons encounter.
Thank you for your comment!
Thanks refi1 for your comment!
:-)
Thanks for the kind words. Glad they are of some use for you.
Hey Sifu John. I am a JunFan/Kali/BJJ instructor in SC. I just stumbled upon your videos- fantastic. I am curious, if possible, can you explain what's happening @ 6:38 that you bring the knife around the arm, rather than cut up like the high wing. I see the footwork that put you off line of the stick. Of course I understand there are 1000 "you could" or "what if". Thanks!
bastonydaga Absolutely. The reason I am showing that particular tech is that the high wing would make no sense with a short weapon. Rather, shifting my centerline (body mech. & footwork) allows me to deal with the attack with a much more efficient outside deflection with my knife to his arm. Make sense?
You're right, there are many possibilities. This was just an example of how sometimes stick movements cannot translate directly to a shorter weapon.
Glad you like the vids.
Blessings and Strength!
John
great stuff!
Great job!
Long time since my lucay lucay . B is equal to block.
F is equal feed.
B1 F4 B5 F2 B1 F1 B4 F5 B2 F1...five strikes or feeds
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Sifu John - Its been awhle since i did kali and can't remember how to defend to angle 3 (low right to left swing). I notice the sumbrada drills use angles 1, 1, 4, 5 and 2 patterns. Do we use the same parry as inside deflect (blocking an angle 1) to defend against an angle 3? Or is there another way to defend against angle 3?
Brandon Durham Hey Brandon,
You can defend many ways. (IE like an angle 1 or 5) Your position relative to the attack will help determine the most efficient method in the moment. Make sense?
Blessings and Strength!
John
I wish i can train with you. The way you train and expl,ain it as a very unique kru, special vibe. Cool dude. But I'm in California.
And that's where it becomes a lifestyle.
Thanks Andrew!
I'm confused. Is this JKD or Filipino Martial arts? The title says JKD but then they say that it's a filipino weapons drill.
Thanks Julio!
Great work, thank you very much. From spanish
Thank you. Appreciate your feedback!
Thanks for your words. Maybe we'll get to train together one day.
very nice flow
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I like the video; I'm a little confused why you're calling this a JKD drill though: this is clearly from FMA.
YES! Clearly it is! Thanks for the feedback.
Did you by chance read the intro to the video? I've copied it for you here:
--The First installment in a 3 part series demonstrating a Filipino Martial Art flow drill known as "Sumbrada".--
If you've read other places on the channel, you'll see that I teach elements of FMA passed on to me by my instructors. Why we teach these elements is explained elsewhere.
I use the labels on the channel to allow for searches from likeminded folks to find the videos.
I hope the content is a help!
John
grazie!
stupendo
nice gym
Now, imagine if they were using an Itak or Barong😮😮
Why on the first strike do you tie up your stick with the cross check when you can grab the stick directly with your left hand and strike to your opponents head? I'd rather hit someone in the head than their belly
....because it's a DRILL. Operating off of a set pattern. That pattern can, and is, changed. When doing this different options are explored and trained...including the one you listed...and many others. The totality of the drill could not be contained in these short videos.
davvero ben fatto... bello :)
JKD does not have any "sumbrada". This is Filipino Martial Arts.
You're absolutely right. Well done. Now let's concentrate on the heart of the matter...shall we? LOL! (Which I have explained more than once already.)
I am a JKD/Kali practitioner...I am not purely a FMA practitioner. Therefore, to do honor to my instructors I do not try to come off as just that. JKD is a concept, a philosophy of training. Bruce Lee's JKD was expressed through his Jun Fan curriculum. Guro Dan Inosanto expresses his JKD through the arts that he teaches....many of which have Filipino heritage or influence. I am his student, and I teach what I have been taught by him (and others). What I am demonstrating here would be called "incorrect" by many pure FMA practitioners as there will be influences from other arts present...it's not "pure" FMA. (It is interesting to note that because of the sheer diversity found in the PI most of them wouldn't agree on what is "correct" or "pure" either.) Therefore, as a JKD/Kali practitioner I use methods from FMA, Muay Thai, Silat, Savate, CSW, BJJ, Boxing, Fencing, etc. to train attributes and techniques. This drill, along with hubud and others, is used widely in the Inosanto lineage because of the attributes it helps to develop. Attributes which are universal in their application (meaning I can develop strength from lifting weights which I can than use in my grappling or boxing or carrying luggage at the airport). The attributes gained from these drills can help me be a better practitioner of Jun Fan, or whatever else I wish to train. They can also help my boxing, wing chun, etc.
I say all of that by way of explanation for this statement: This drill is not being taught here to develop FMA people, but rather to develop attributes for fighting. Therefore it is not because of ignorance or disrespect that I include the term "JKD" in the title. It is simply a call to the people who will find it valuable for their own training and recognize the intent of this series of videos.
I hope that makes sense and answers your critique. If it doesn't, please empty your cup and read it again. :-)
JKD is a type of Martial arts that has no style at all so you can fit with all styles, it has no form so you can fit with all forms, I'm a Filipino and I use the Martial Arts of Jeet Kune Do for protection and for expressing my feelings
Pugay fma
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Thanks Stefan! Glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful.
Where is the JKD? Just curious... Pretty good explanation on a corrdination exercise from FMA.. But this has nothing to do with JKD.. Look I get it... But Guro Dan catches alot of shit because of this exact reason... His followers do not understand that they must separate the arts... Let's be precise guys. Let's be honest with ourselves and others... Take JKD out of this title please Guro. Do yourself and your students and Guro Dan's legacy correct
Bruce Lee did Filipino Stick Fighting, he used it in Enter the Dragon.
Hello sir, thank you for your note. "Pretty good explanation"....why thank you. Please allow me to address what I believe to be your point. Jeet Kune Do is a filter through which we view our training. It is NOT just the Jun Fan martial arts. We DO understand and we DO separate the arts. However, the JKD flow teaches us to INTEGRATE the arts so that we may "respond like an echo and adapt like a shadow."
I am a JKD/Kali practitioner (among other things)...I am not purely a FMA practitioner or a follower of Jun Fan. Therefore, to do honor to my instructors I do not try to come off as just that. JKD as taught by Guro Inosanto is a concept, a philosophy of training. Thus the moniker, "Jeet Kune Do Concepts." Bruce Lee's JKD was expressed through his Jun Fan curriculum. Guro Dan expresses his JKD through the arts that he teaches....many of which have Filipino heritage or influence. I am his student, and I teach what I have been taught by him (and others). What I am demonstrating here would be called "incorrect" by many pure FMA practitioners as there will be influences from other arts present...it's not "pure" FMA. (It is interesting to note that because of the sheer diversity found in the PI most of them wouldn't agree on what is "correct" or "pure" either.) Therefore, as a JKD/Kali practitioner I use methods from FMA, Muay Thai, Silat, Savate, CSW, BJJ, Boxing, Fencing, etc. to train attributes and techniques. This drill, along with hubud and others, is used widely in the Inosanto lineage because of the attributes it helps to develop. Attributes which are universal in their application (meaning I can develop strength from lifting weights which I can than use in my grappling or boxing or carrying luggage at the airport). The attributes gained from these drills can help me be a better practitioner of Jun Fan, or whatever else I wish to train. (They can also help my boxing, wing chun, etc.)
I say all of that by way of explanation for this statement: This drill is not being taught here to develop FMA people, but rather to develop attributes for fighting. Therefore it is not because of ignorance or disrespect that I include the term "JKD" in the title. It is simply a call to the people who will find it valuable for their own training and recognize the intent of this series of videos. Looking at your personal listed information, I am surprised you did not understand this.
I am honoring my Guro, his instructors, and all of my instructors. I hope that makes sense and answers your critique. If it doesn't, please empty your cup and read it again. :-)
Respect,
John Koeshall
@@JohnKoeshall How long have you train with Guro Dan? Did he instruct you to call FMA JKD?? Because I know for a fact he would not approve this title. He catches so much shit because of this stuff. In fact. I got in trouble the first time I trained with him in 2002 because of something similar.. My advice.. Call it what it is.. FMA needs probably more pushing anyway
@@IlokanoWarrior Yes he did! But FMA is NOT by any means JKD! I have heard this from Guro Dan himself, in person, more than once. And Guro catches alot of shit because of people that cant understand the difference!
@@GuroBillyBrown Thanks for your advice. I've been training with Guro since 1989 (four camps last year). You know for a fact? I don't claim to know much about his opinions, however I do know for a fact that he wouldn't approve of people arguing over semantics or something as trivial as the title of a video series.
I was in no way ever claiming that this is JKD instead of FMA. I attempted to explain this again in the first response to you. In fact, if you WATCH the video, you might here at 25 seconds in where I clearly state this is a drill taken from FMA. The whole intent of this series is to show a JKD person's perspective on different training methodologies that we use. This drill just so happens to have it's origins in the PI. What you are seeing is a naming convention to allow people who are interested in this material to find it.
Let me try to clarify this even more for you...have you ever eaten Chinese food that wasn't cooked by a Chinese cook? This is FMA presented by a JKD man. Let's be clear, these videos are not aimed at the FMA community...they're aimed at anyone who finds them interesting. If you don't, you don't have to watch them. :-)
People give Guro a lot of grief for a lot of reasons. I get grief from time to time too....as all instructors who are out there do. That's what happens when you lead.
Reading your response to @IlokanoWarrior, FMA is not JFJKD, but FMA can be seen through JKD Concepts.
I answered you in an attempt to clarify my reasoning, not to get into an argument or "discussion".