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In The Room With Pantera's Rex Brown, Zakk Wylde & Charlie Benante
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2023
- In this episode, I have the privilege of interviewing three members of Pantera's current touring lineup: founding member Rex Brown (Bass), Charlie Benante (Drums) of Anthrax fame, and Zakk Wylde (Guitar).
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This is ace. You’ve outdone yourself, Rick. Massive respect.
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I agree. This is great. Much respect, guys.
U a racis?
@@gregorysmith8964
How so?
once ya get Maynard everyone else begs to come . just the facts ! well maybe not but anyway .
We need a Rex voiced audio book ASAP. His voice is so relaxing.
someone should cast him in a western
That's sooo true
Or just Morgan Freeman style narration bits in a film.
Southern molasses
He looks like Steve Bucemi with long hair 😂
I love that Zakk gives props to George Lynch. People may not like Dokken, but Lynch was a force to be reckoned with and he's the reason I started playing guitar as a young kid.
When Zakk talked about metal guitarists, early in this conversation. I felt that he left out an important piece of the puzzle, in the early 90's. Though He was not in the mainstream, John Petrucci was, quietly, setting new standards that people only recognize, now. Later in the interview, he put John Petrucci, in the conversation, and in the right place in the story of metal.
I love how Zakk communicates so well through these interesting analogies and also spreads such a positive message about being driven. He really is such a rooted, down to earth, logical guy with a fun sense of humor.
I like Zack and Charlie and happy with the reunion but it’s like Van Halen’s reunion without Eddie and Alex.
I love Pantera because of Dime’s playing but it was so cool to hear them get heavier on each album.
They evolved. That's beautiful.
Heavier doesn't always mean better. Vulgar Display of Power is their best album.
I think alot of people don't realize what a phenomenal bass player Rex is dude is solid AF.
I can't agree with you more ... Incredible underrated!!!!. Seriously ,,, checkout Suicide Note Pt II live in Noblesville, IN. - his tone is just ridiculous.
Being a bass player and original Pantera member his input has probably been priceless to capturing the Pantera sound.
Being the bass player him and the drummer had to be a tight rythm section and the bass is a guitar so he had to be in tune with Dimebag and compliment musically what Dimebag was doing on guitar .
The bass intro to The Art of Shredding will live rent free in my forever.
I was cranking Vulgar this weekend and the bass really caught my attention. Super impressive.
@@brittscott4673 Oh No doubt.
I love how Charlie's nervous tick move is double base kick drum moves with his feet 😂
I saw Pantera in 92 for Vulgar in a small Rhode Island club. Was insane. Nobody even knew who they were back then. The energy...metal shows were different back then, more real.
Zakk giving everyone their honorifics “King Edward”, “Lord Iommi”, “Saint Roads” lols
So much respect for the job Phil has been doing live. Spinal pain never goes away. He’s rehabbed his life, his voice, and you can see/hear the joy he feels to be back in the saddle vocally.
Rick is the coolest online dude doing proper music interviews with amazing artist. Thanks Sir for sharing your time with us. 🤘🏽❤️
Agreed. Otis Gibbs' channel and interviews are pretty sweet too. Kenny Vaughn (often on Otis' channel) is a great storyteller.
Zakk knows, he knows lol --> 0:28
I love how much respect and love Zakk has for other musicians and artists.
It comes from his biceps LOL
This is the first time I've seen an interview with Zakk. He's such a cool dude, and he comes off as very honest and humble.
I guess it never dawned on me how many insane guitarists he has had to follow and replicate on stage until he started listing them... Iommi, Rhodes, Lee, Dimebag. No pressure or anything.
I keep expecting his veins to just explode at any moment
Can't wait for him to get back to his shows. Won't go see him here.
It's amazing listening to Zakk talk so positively about his fellow guitarists. He is a legend who is down to earth and humble. This is why he's my favorite guitarist if all time
I shat on this reunion , but I will say Rex & Phillip hit the bullseye with Zakk & Charlie . Everybody knows how sick Zakk is , but Charlie Benante is in the Dave Lombardo stratosphere . One of the best metal drummers of all time . He’s a sick guitarist too , wrote a ton of Anthrax stuff .
I was born in Arlington, TX and grew up in The Metroplex in the 90s 00s. As a metal head Pantera was the end all be all. We called it “Texas Hardcore.” Long live the Dime brothers! Great interview, Rick!
From the first 8 seconds that I heard Pantera in 1991 until now. My all time favorite heavy band. There's never been a band close to Pantera!
Far beyond driven is so brutal. My favorite album for sure.
its groovy, its catchy, its good, it IS NOT brutal.
@@necron9028 😂
Love how Charlie was on the double bass drums through the whole interview.🤘
Trust me, it's a drummer thing😅
@@offtherecord681
I've been a drummer for 37 years, when I'm sitting in the living room,in the car ,at the dinner table etc,etc I'm playing in my head and tapping any surface I can ,I drive the Mrs nuts , my 17 year old and 3 year old are both drummers , it's awesome.
Wives of drummers everywhere are rolling their eyes lol
As a guy that is not a drummer but would love to learn how to be one I'm always moving my feet like Charlie or the late great monster that is Vinnie Paul.
And Zakk playing air guitar.
Zakk has the greatest attitude about music. If it sounds good and you like it, go for it,
In my opinion, what's Zakk is describing, in regards to if Dime had to play one of his solos in Ozzy... is 'soul'. It's why there'll never be another Dime... or Zakk... or Jimi...
Charlie not being able to sit still is such a drummer thing.
You are the perfect interviewer. I love how you let the artist speak instead of interrupting like so many other interviewers out there.
Props to Charlie for trying to emulate vinnie, respectfully. He knows how much it means to everybody, so thats awesome. I’m excited to see it next summer 🔥
He has nailed Vinnies live sound so well
Charlie is a stand up guy
Charlie is a great guy met him at a anthrax concert, he was nice and polite more than I expected him to be. If you ask me he is a very underrated drummer IMO
Check out the bedroom covers from the lockdown period. He's a great guitar player too.
Hell yeah
Rex talks about his grandmother with sooo much love with good memories like he mentioned in the interview Gibson did with him. And I really respect that. I had the same close and very special kinda love and friendship I had with my granny.
This is not Pantera, appreciate the effort of all involved, great tribute to the Abbot brothers, in my opinion, they were the band…irreplaceable.
Zakk LOVES the sound of his own voice.
I think the vibrations of his own voice, through his skull, is what he can't live without.
Either way, you're right, he sure is talkative!
He's just saying
They didn't follow their brothers advice, Vinnie Paul said: "Just because you throw Zakk Wylde up there does not make it the old Pantera". - the energy level is not the same. But glad they're back just in a different form.
Best interview I've ever seen from them. They don't sit 4 anyone. Bravo
Man I miss Dime and Vinnie. They WERE PANTERA to me. Rex being instrumental to their sound as well. But the love and respect Charlie and Zakk have for them two guys definitely breathes a rejuvenation to Rex and Phil. Coolest and most humble group of guys. 🙏🏼
Nope Phil is pantera
Like Rex said, “In the end, it’s all about the legacy anyways…” Zakk and Charlie play out of respect I’m sure.
@@stevilkenevil9960lol. None of Phil's side projects, which I still enjoy, have sounded like Pantera. Pantera without the Abbots is like Van Halen without thr Van Halen brothers.
@CharlesWillisBonsai agreed BUT , the abbot brothers were at it for 10+yrs before Phil joined and couldn't seal a record deal. Phil joined and brought a sense of idgaf attitude that allowed them to get away from the cookie cutter spandex bullshit. I mean the abbot Brothers didn't even know who slayer was back then. You can hear Phil's immediate influence on power metal, yeah they still had that glam tone to their music but after Phil joined he gave the music teeth, Even on Power metal you could hear Phil's influence. Let's face it w/o Phil pantera would still be doing van Halen covers in a backwoods Texas bar somewhere.
@@CharlesWillisBonsaiExactly. This is no different than calling Sammy Hagar's band Van Halen. Only the Singer and bass player left.
Rex Brown sounds like an FM DJ.
I love how the new members accept Rex.
Charlie is right to be worried about the state of metal. I hope he is wrong.
I never noticed how strong Zakk's NJ accent is.
Great interview.
Great interview, Rick!
This F#$%IN' BAND has led me to here...
Would of, should of, been gone long ago.
THIS BAND SAVED ME...STRONGER THAN ALL. 🤝🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
I love just how passionate Zakk is and how he throws great metaphors at everything and they all make perfect sense.
"It's like if you had a coconut...."
Yes! And always makes sure everyone knows what me means! 😂
Got real old fast
"No, I mean, I'm just saying... Father, Lord, Saint, No, I mean, I'm just saying... No wonder my dude chose to let his guitar do the talking. lol. My old bandmate used to own a small record shop in town and had scheduled Zakk to do an in-store meet and greet. When the time arrived Zakk couldn't get a ride, so my bandmates and I had the pleasure of going to pick him up... ( from the Alrosa-Villa of all places) this was back when he had first started BLS. We got there, picked him up, burned some and proceeded to have a great time. After we got him back to the venue my bass player said "My god, I can't believe how bad he smells"... lol. I guess he thought life on the road is totally glamorous. Zakk was so cool to all of us and he's right... If music is what you want to do... "You better love the music because the music doesn't always love you" you have to be willing to get in the trenches and live like an animal. I still have the autographed picture hanging up to this day. Good dude, Great times.
@@grindcoreblues7517 did he smell like demon peptides
I’ll never forget, the first two CDs I bought were Anthrax - State of Euphoria and Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. I had cassette tapes before that but those two were the my first CDs.
Great music!
Rick, pls try get Mike Patton. His vocal range is ungodly, plus he's a unique real dude and has done it all.
Ola is the man. Glad Zakk shouted him out. He is an MVP to the whole genre of metal.
When I think Drum beats as a Guitarist for 40 plus years Rush "Tom Sawyer" always comes to my mind 1st !! It just screamed to me at 14 or 15 as Damn those are what Drums can sound like & be to a song .
40:31 Zakk makes a great point here! And I think it stands to reason that the home videos are part of the bands legacy. Even the mid-90s Pantera bootlegs here on youtube are of decent quality for their time and age. It exposed me to what a Pantera show was really like and I love that stuff like that is being cataloged for new bands…it deserves to be celebrated so that maybe down the line other people who weren’t there will get to enjoy it!
Wow, the fact that Charlie set his kit up like Vinnie's is something else. Forgoing his comfort level to do justice to everything - incredible.
Cuz he's awesome!!
Vinnie was against a so called pantera reunion after dime's death. So charlie is going against vinnie.
I was just hoping and hoping it was Zakk and Charlie. I KNEW it would be Zakk...and knew it SHOULD be Charlie...I've come to recognize him as one of the absolute best drummers on the planet. So versatile!!!
@@masterp2269Zakk is not fitting in Dime's shoes... Zakk doesn't have as much repertoire as Dime to pull it off... Charlie is great, although Vinnie was totally against this reunion.
@@redacted2275 I saw them live, Charlie was indistinguishable from Vinnie, Zakk sounded like Zakk but emulating Dimebag perfectly is a lot to ask out of anyone and Zakk is still really great.
Outstanding episode!
This is so good! Rick, I play bass for Chevelle and we’re gonna be in Atlanta in a few days and would love to have ya out to the show! I sent ya a message on IG (now one here) cause I don’t know how to reach ya 🤷♂️. Holla if ya see this and wanna come hang. Love whatcha do 👊
Why wouldn't Pete send him a message?
Rick, this is an awesome interview man!! 🫡 Hoping that maybe you can get an interview from Guns N’ Roses from the appetite era🤘🤘
Saw them in Budapest in the summer. It + was + freaking + awesome.
Dude, you are CRUSHING it with these interviews lately. WOW! Also, all these guys are great, but after this my respect for Zakk grew by leaps and bounds. What an amazing, genuine, humble, talented guy.
This is incredible
Charlie is the OG of metal drummers, and this whole Pantera tribute thing wouldn't have worked without him anchoring it. The most humble of guys, with pure raw talent.
It might have been interesting with Lombardo. I always felt like he and Vinnie had a similar groove.
Lombardo too....
There's maybe 5 guys who could do the role justice.
But that's about it.
7 billion people, and there's five dudes...
Seen em in Dallas and again in Albuquerque and Charlie is spot on. I closed my eyes and it felt like Dime and Vin were there
Lars Ulrich - CEO of thrash metal
Zakk with the positive energy which is great. Meanwhile, Charlie is sounding like the typical old guy that's being negative.
I couldn't think of anyone better than Charlie and Zakk . I loved Zakk's lead on the tribute album .
My favorite interview on this channel.
R.I.P to the brothers you’ll be loved forever!!👊👍🤘🏻
Zakk has a great mindset . He always sees the positive side of things. Really love his vibe.
Really cool to hear him appreciate and pay homage to the rock giants that came before him as well as give props to younger artists.
Without a doubt
He’s grown a lot that’s for sure
He's "just saying "
I just wish he would actually play like dime instead of doing his own thing and ignoring the songs and just playing how he always does
Can we say it, Zakk interviews are a hard listen. He rambles on and on.
Vulgar display of power was the album I played the most back in 93/94 such a sick album
i saw the original Pantera at OZZFEST, Phoenix AZ 2000. the area in front of the stage just kept swelling as it got nearing to their stage time. The sun was just getting low. they walked out and plugged in with no talking, no bullshit. It was like a sneak attack and that first chord smashed me before they even seemed to have a strap settled. That mass in the pit just exploded and security broke and ran. not even the National guard could have stopped them them from doing whatever it was they wanted to do. man i remember me and my girl laughing so hard! i am 58 now and seen at least 200 major shows and countless gigs. i played quite a few myself but that was the only time i ever saw security just give up. certainly the only time after one fucking note! baaahhhhh!!!!!
I saw them on the same tour in Budapest. One of my friends walked out after the second Black Sabbath song because he thought the whole gig was gonna go downhill after the Pantera show. He was right. Pantera that time was at their best. Amazing experience.
This is the greatest and best band in the world... tribute
I love Pantera but idk about this, I love zakk but losing dime was a stake to the heart for me growing up listening to Pantera at an early age, bringing back their music is great, but I still can't listen to in this river by zakk without a crying, it just brings back a flood of emotions hearing one of top rock icons after all these years of being gone, but not forgotten
Rick is a national treasure 🤘
World
* A global one
International treasure
That’s a bit rich. Rick is definitely a cool ass dude that has done a great job carving a niche for himself while being super entertaining. But a National Treasure? Methinks not.
Should be knited... oh, they dont do that in usa??
Interesting that Charlie talks about striving to sound like Vinnie and Zakk talks about being unable to sound like anyone but himself.
Funny ZACK mentioned Pantera opening for skid row. The first time I ever heard a Pantera song was when I went to see skid row at age 15. It literally changed my life. The song was mouth of war. Vulgar hadn’t even came out yet. Wow!! I still get goosebumps
My Uncle Roger Romeo is the guitarist of Legs Diamond and I flew out to L.A. to visit him several times. He took me to The Whiskey and a place called The Rainbow. When I was going to the bathroom I literally ran into Vinnie Paul. It was like running into a comic book character, I couldn't believe it. But many rock stars hang out there. I just said, "Vinnie??" "Yeah man" "Thank you for the music" I didn't have the heart to ask for an autograph, this was just after Dimebag was taken from us and felt completely inappropriate. I could still see the pain in the mans eyes.
Rick needs to get Billy, Frank & Elwood in for an interview.
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Excellent and important point
I totally agree! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
so you say
self proclaimed
I agree this music platform is Great! I can only promote by a thumbs up then,👍
i saw the original Pantera at OZZFEST, Phoenix AZ 2000. the area in front of the stage just kept swelling as it got nearing to their stage time. The sun was just getting low. they walked out and plugged in with no talking, no bullshit. It was like a sneak attack and that first chord smashed me before they even seemed to have a strap settled. That mass in the pit just exploded and security broke and ran. not even the National guard could have stopped them them from doing whatever it was they wanted to do. man i remember me and my girl laughing so hard! i am 58 now and seen at least 200 major shows and countless gigs. i played quite a few myself but that was the only time i ever saw security just give up. certainly the only time after one fucking note! baaahhhhh!!!!!
Pantera Can't be Pantera without Dime and Vinny. I'll never forget going into tower records and buying, Far Beyond Driven, wow was that a game changer for me back in the 90s.
And this "group" is a massive insult to them. They never wanted something like this exist.
@@daveubermenschI can’t believe zakk would even consider this bs, wrong on so many levels !!
Such a great band and great interview! Welcome back to the live scene boys!!
This is really the best Pantera tribute band.
This ain’t no Tribute!! It’s 2 new guys filling a space left by my 2 brothers that are no longer with us!! Just accept the fact that we’re playing all your Fave tunes from our massive catalog & we’ll do our best to kick ya in the nuts every night!?
@@REXBROWNOFFICIALgood stuff Rex!!!!!! ❤️🤘🏿
This is 1/2 of Pantera!*
And I love Zakk...so is hard to say that*
It's not Pantera. It's a Pantera tribute band with two original members, and yes I'd definitely see them.
Love Zakk... His "King Edward", "Saint Rhoads" and "Lord Iommi" references are timeless. Respect.
Who is Prince?
@@ckmoore101Prince
And father Rick lol
He’s got a Pope Page and one for Blackmore too
@Dan-zq5wt I want to say it's Bishop Blackmore I heard him say once, but might be wrong on that.
I find more that Zakk is honoring him by not trying to mimic Dime’s sound. More respectful this way. Dime definitely had those squeals. I only want to hear him doing it though. No cheap imitation attempts. 🤘🏻
There is no Pantera without Dime and Vinnie. Good interview though. Zakk sure likes to ramble on and cut people off. Mainstream for rock and metal has been pushed out for rap crap, pop, no talent sex objects. With that said, metal, rock and actual talented musicians aren't dead! I'm seeing Protest the Hero next weekend, Carnifex on November 2nd and then Meshuggah, Whitechapel and In Flames on December 5th. Just saw Parkway Drive a couple weeks ago and August Burns Red, The Devil Wears Prada, Nekrogoblikon earlier this year and Trivium twice.
Watch Charlie's legs when he's thinking too much or it's just his current tick for nervousness, but I swear he's doing the double bass of BECOMING, lmao.
For me there is no Pantera without Vinny and Dimebag, probably the family needs the money and man why not? they are sitting on a goldmine, but the lack of shame in Anselmo to be back using the band he ended up destrying just gives me the creeps. Saw them back in 99 in Mexico City, that was Pantera, but this is just sad ...
Rick, I’m trying to put this into words but you’re channel is like a modern reference or source of musical knowledge, fountain of knowledge for the modern musician, for those of us like me who grew up watching mtv and playing in bands I appreciate everything you put out, you’re continually having my heroes as guests and I’m just failing to put it into words but thank you so much
Agreed!
My sentiments exactly
28:00 Zack spitting facts on decades of ungrateful signed musicians for real. Try never having a benefactor to front you money, never having anyone to help you book shows, never having anyone to help you find an audio engineer. Having to front cash for everything. Having to front cash for a broken down fan. Record companys do want you to succeed (except in cases like when Exodus got signed to capital, mishandlings, stuff like that). And life would be much cooler if your boss was a record company exec rather than a foreman on a construction yard.
That's not Pantera. That's a Pantera tribute band with special guests Phil and Rex.
Is this a joke? This is a coverband capatalizing on one of the best metal-acts ever.
I'm glad Zakk at least explained what he was trying to say, because I wouldn't have understood otherwise lol Killer interview!
Charlie is such an underrated drummer. His playing on "Persistence of Time" (yes, the entire album) is just phenomenal.
yeah that "who dares wins" by Charlie is legend
Being one of the greatest metal drummers of all time is hardly underrated? Shits on Lars, no contest.
@@alichamas63 And that's the point. He's not just one of the greatest metal drummers. He's one of the best out there in any genre.
His "Silver Linings" and the lockdown video series gave me hope and kept me alive, man. Playing with some greats, including the legend Alex Skolnick...and so much fun the videos he did with the Klassik 78 guys.
Charlie phenomenal met him at Sam Ash Such a cool nice guy he can play with anyone
I think bands like Exodus and Overkill also helped to bring Metal to where it was in the early 90's. In the 80's you had bands like Dokken and Ratt that pushed it forward as well. You had Deep Purple, Foghat so many others. But I do agree with what they said about how metal evolved.
The song Helter Skelter by the Beatles is totally metal!
you guys should make new album
Loved this!
This interview pretty much sums up the problems with current music in the first 25 minutes of this tape “ You had to be on your game when making & recording music 25-30-40 years ago , no second or third takes , do it right the first time or you lose the magic . No do -overs , or “ white out & replace the bad part with this part “…. One & done “ ! Talent not tweak this or that to make music like today . The music HAD to be great , or don’t cut it as a track on some rudimentary album & call it good .
Rex is one of the true killer metal bassists of all time. All of those early tracks his bass just growled and held that foundation perfectly. It took so much technique to double those lines and nail it. I hope to see them live one day.
If you can make it ,, go! Rex's tone is ridiculous!
I saw Down live in 2008 and was in the front with Rex, his playing blew my mind - he used all sorts of effects, played clean, pick/fingers just about everything except slap.
Early tracks? Rex slaps ass on every single record they released. Especially on the last couple, felt like his mixing/tone was improved a lot.
@@TSE_WOODY Agreed. I should have said especially those early tracks for me. But yeah, phenomenal always. I would never use the phrase “underrated” for him but definitely needs to be celebrated more.
I began to notice the depth of Rex’s contribution to Pantera when I clearly heard his bass riffing on the lead up to Dime’s solo in Domination. Rex was never ‘underrated’ but rather ‘overlooked’. These interviews over the last ten or so years cement his contributions to the band 🤙🏼
I absolutely love this video. It’s so refreshing seeing older musicians not discouraging new bands but encouraging!
I thought it was awesome when Zakk was praising social media to reach an audience with your music
The drummer is a true musician. Pick Vinnes vibe.
I was just talking to a fellow guitar player about how songs like Becoming and Strength Beyond Strength have so many unusual choices that its hard to tell what key they're in, and he says "well that's because Pantera isn't a metal band, they're a jazz band!" Glad Zakk agrees lol.
Zakk likes to talk! LMAO! Great interview Rick!!
Just amazing. Thank you Rick.
A band like Pantera deserve to have such great musicians and friends of the Abbotts paying tribute. Great interview Rick
The Abbotts hated Phil, they didn't want this.
@@vorpalblades The Abbotts did not hate Phil. Dimebag never hated Phil. Vince hated Phil after Dime's death, but moved on. Both the brother's were annoyed by his live performances when he was on drugs.
To say they hated Phil, when they spent over a decade together basically as family, is ridiculous.
Some fans are incredibly dumb, they'd rather not have a Pantera reunion which to fans like me who were too young to have seen them in the 90s is insulting, why the hell should half the band not perform such legendary songs and give fans like me a chance to see them performed?
@@DM-pv4rwI remember reading an interview with Dime in one of the guitar magazines where he went on, at length, about how Phil strung them along while playing in his other band projects for a year or more, before the brothers started their next project without him. Dime was in pain, disappointed, it was pretty sad.
Phil started up with this no show behavior before RTS, most of the vocals on that album were by "Seth", even on that earlier album. It was like, "Where is Phil?". Now Phil wants to be there.
@@Vivi_9 Same man. I was born a year before Dime's murder, and I am an absolute diehard Pantera fan. I love all the music, so it's nice to hear the music performed live. I don't think its disrespectful at all. It's not like they're making new music or anything.
Godamn Rick I hope you understand the importance of this thing you're creating, these interviews will be studied long after we're all gone because of their depth and honesty. Well fucking done mate.
The “New York” Long Island accent of Zack is perfect
Ive always claimed Charlie is the best drummer of the Big 4....
Hearing my guitar hero f'ing Zakk Wylde say he could figure out the right ballpark of Dime's riffs but had to check it with guys like Ola and Attilla makes me feel so relieved 😅 me too, Zakk, me too
Zakks the man for the job,very cool 😎
KILLER Interview! I love around 6:26 he mentions Ola! Zakk always seems so down to earth! 🤘🤘
And Attila, that dude has helped me so much with pantera stuff and the fact that Zakk mentioned him too made me happy
He’s gonna go nuts when he hears zakk mention him here