SAME Shit. Too much mini butons effects and functions small and smaller to find and push fast, This burns the mind, is like for music/ song producer studio type dj. Who is going to make a BETTER CONTROLLER OR The WORKING DJS ? -ASK THE DJS in about 5 hour work how will we like the buttoms to be placed and size functions we really need: -How many times you need press cue buttom? -How many times you need find songs -How many times you need scroll carpets library etc -How many times you need to scroll windows ( song carpets playlist sampler) - Do we need a sampler volume? -How many times do you need do you need to open the window of sidelist. -How much do we use scroll by BPM by Artist, by album.etc -Do you need a big display on bpm. Or many other info in micro size screen. -FROM ALL THAT: How many times do you need EFFECTS OR EDITING A SONG WHILE YOU MIXING IN A 5 hour average event.? -Also do you like wider and less dip controller or deeper and short wide?
The competition in the production of DJ gear is fierce, with a variety of companies striving to produce the best equipment for DJs. With the rise of digital music and the increasing sophistication of DJ technology, it's an exciting time to be producing and using DJ gear. It's great to see so many companies pushing the boundaries of what can be done with DJ gear, and I'm looking forward to seeing what new innovations will come out of this competitive market.
I love this controller. I was 100% on board until I realized the platters aren't motorized. I thought that was kind of the point of the newer Rane products
@@InFamousProductions I have the NS7 III which is class-compliant and does not require any drivers or updates for use with newer macOS - love this tank 😃
Great walk through on this unit, at first glance reminds me of thr Pioneer ddj 1000 ( rekordbox edition ) just by the view on the screens. Rane makes QUALITY DJ GEAR AND THAT IS THE TRUTH, anyone remember the Rane ttm 54 ? This unit gives me that same vibe. Being a Rane owner of the Rane 12mk2's, Rane 72mk2, and the Rane 70 A-Trak version. I have used the Rane One, but this unit seems very interesting, hopefully there will be a motorized platter version in the near future. But I will admit this unit has me thinking 🤔
Great review! I own the Rane One which is my favorite controller, I started on turntables and the One is the closest to 1200s in terms of feel. There is a learning curve for the small platter, but you dial right in! I'm happy to have stems in the new update, I hope to try out mapping some of the keys on the Rane one to set up shortcuts for stems. As others have stated, the non spinning platter is a deal breaker. Honestly I'm glad they don't spin...otherwise I would have had to drop some money on that beast stat!
My guy. The dots on the platter are for the strobe light. So you can look at the platter and see how fast or slow it’s moving. Yes we have always used the side to slow down. But they are not there to add friction. It’s just design transferred from the classic.
This controller looks like is more for stems ,the effects is spot on .i use the numark ns7ii and im use to spinning platters will make it hard to upgrade as there is no spinning platters and i was really looking forward to this controller.I have to say I'm in two minds about it.But its early days lets see more videos come out on this controller to reaaly make me wanna buy one...as always crossfader always gives good reviews.
All those Djs who new of the design or seen it first and nobody mentioned to add the moving platters? Release another one with moving platters and this will be the top tier of controllers.
"The stroboscopic dots are designed to be used as an indicator to show the change of the speed of the record relative to the normal speed. In simple terms it's a way to quickly see how much faster or slower the record is." Therefore, they are not for friction as you stated.
After owning the rane 12 and 72 mk1 I refuse to purchase dj gears from any company that’s supports just one specific software. With that being said. Awesome video you guys deliver great content all the time. While this controller looks great I’ll be waiting this one out to see how many software it’ll support.
Dj since 1985 here. Technics owned the TT market for 40 years. Still kinda does. Rane legacy heritage hardware build is legendary. Serato is the most stable and implemented SW out there. They may not have a budget for 3 engineers at $150k/yr x 3 platforms. Serato is the most sensible platform to start with. Peace.
As a business move, it makes more sense to go with a non motorized setup. A few reasons, not everyone wants moving platters unless you're into turntablism. Second, the weight would be crazy. I own a Rane One and it's weighty. Third, given supply chain / shipping situation adding motorized platters would make this a 2k+ controller like the rev 7. Which if I had to guess, this one will be around $1499. There's no way it'll be around $1200 when used ddj 1000srt are selling for above msrp.
@@atypical_blk_guy I get that but really they need this with both it would be amazing at least make it a special order and charge a grand more I would pay it
@chunkygrumpy7561 It's fun but not a big deal for me. I was doing this 30 years ago when vinyl use to have instrumental and accapellas. I guess what goes around comes around. 😌
I understand the desire for motorized platters. It truly does give that old school turntable feel. However, when you're DJing, it's usually pretty dark and honestly, it's very easy to forget and not even notice that they aren't spinning. Especially with the screen in the center spinning. When I used CDJs, for the longest time I thought it'd feel awful after running 1200s my whole career. You'll adapt quickly.
I love my Rane One, but reading some of the comments, I wouldn't want moving platters on a 4 channel controller. The weight alone would not be fun. Also I think it was a smart move, if you look at the rev 7, it started out as a $1700 controller. It's currently retailed at $2k+. Not to mention the rev 7 has been virtually on backorder for the entire year. I'm almost positive that the Rane four will retail around $1599. Used ddj 1000srts are going for above retail. IMO, once you get above $2k you should be looking at standalones or a two tables and a mixer.
The whole point of getting a controller IMO is because stand alone mixer and decks are super hard to transport for mobile DJs. Otherwise get Rane 12s or CDJs
7:40 let me get this straight, the "dots" on the side of a turntable platter are for friction? umm, interesting? Rane made a big mistake not making the platters motorized. I saw the screens in the middle of the platters and I listed my ONE on ebay... no so fast, rather have motorized platters. stems are ok but I can achieve the same thing in other ways. can't believe that is what they are pushing... get ready for even more drops every minute!!!
Everything looks dope! The quality of the mic and crossfader knobs look better. No moving platter option is super lame and what's with going back to 1/4" for booth out?? XLR was such a better move on the Rane One
My overall question is, the Rane Four or the Pioneer DDJ-1000SRT? My money is ready to purchase either one of them. What are y’all thoughts, please? Thanks im advance.
Hello all, Is it normal with RANE that the output level meter (led indicator) does not change when I turn the main level control? Only with the channel gain control it changes. With Pioneer or Denon, the main level control directly affects the level meter. So I can see if the output is overdriven or not.
Glad that finally more midi mixers are coming out with STEM cell capabilities. I have had Traktor S8 for a long time that had this capability however I could not find just any track as a STEM file, hopefully that changes.
@@WazzyTV wow you know so much. Thanks for the pearls of wisdom. Is the Rane One SMH a special edition? Do you have turntables? Do you have friends and can i be one of them?
The unit only cost $1500.00. Not a lot but not unreachable, for those that really want it! To me, the price explains the lack of motorized platters. With all the new features, gotta cut some things out to meet target price. I bet they'll introduce a motorized version, after selling tons of v1.
As a 90s vinyl dinosaur, I think the technology is amazing for messing around with but how much will get used when you’re doing a live set… dare I say but I think it’s too much.
Very cool and great review. Can it isolate musical frequencies / sequences in house, techno, chillout, balearic, D&B etc for those of us who don't scratch vocals?
First I want to say , thanks for always sharing great content , and I am a student who has purchased your training course. I have a question in regards to Stem on Serato, does it work on Video files ( I am VJ)
Hi guys, i bought this controller and i have an issue, i cannot make channels 3&4 to work, are running but with out sound (mute in use). I update the firmware and drivers and i use virtual dj. Can someone help me? Thank you, have a nice day!
its nice especially for stems but i like spinning jogs.Thats the only thing its missing but hey im a bit old fashioned .I got Stems on Serato at long last and my initial impressions are good.This is like when i was using video.Only one issue as my pads will be using the stem function im not sure how i will use cue points at the same time
Yeah would be good to know this. Seems to be one of the complaints about the Rane One. Although I assume it is software controlled since he said you can change the cut in on the unit's software itself
The crossfader is controlled by the hardware in the controller and not in the software there is your answer I own one and it’s damn nice sounds great and I’m a pioneer fan but no more
Please please please! Add more updates to the software, the vocals still sound a little kinda weird, again! When I checked Virtual Dj's latest update with stems mode, my mind was blown up! If I'm going to invest for the latest laptop with that M1 chip, the process need to be more clean! Great controller though.
@@keithr.hammonds6653 I don't know. No spinning platters and the Rev 7 with the notorious Pioneer Tax comes in at £1800 so i don't think it will be close to that price. At least i would be shocked AF if it is.
Stem Split isn't new, Pioneer released it first with Dual Deck on the DJM S11 and FLX6, although I really like how Rane's Split feature "relocks" or brings the instro back to where the vocal is. You can do it with Dual Deck but you have to instant double and quickly click the instrumental stem.
It's pretty dope. But the elephant in the room has to be the stem separation that has the phase or pixel sound. We'll all just pretend it's not there. Hey jk. One day the stems will be flawless. You know they'll figure it out.
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SAME Shit. Too much mini butons effects and functions small and smaller to find and push fast, This burns the mind, is like for music/ song producer studio type dj.
Who is going to make a BETTER CONTROLLER OR The WORKING DJS ?
-ASK THE DJS in about 5 hour work how will we like the buttoms to be placed and size functions we really need:
-How many times you need press cue buttom?
-How many times you need find songs
-How many times you need scroll carpets library etc
-How many times you need to scroll windows ( song carpets playlist sampler)
- Do we need a sampler volume?
-How many times do you need do you need to open the window of sidelist.
-How much do we use scroll by BPM
by Artist, by album.etc
-Do you need a big display on bpm. Or many other info in micro size screen.
-FROM ALL THAT: How many times do you need EFFECTS OR EDITING A SONG WHILE YOU MIXING IN A 5 hour average event.?
-Also do you like wider and less dip controller or deeper and short wide?
3 mestr/j,vý
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Have a question how to use vinyl without the slip mode turns on?
The dots on the side of turntable platters are not to provide friction when mixing, they are for the strobe to give a visual guide to rpm of platter.
Yeah, I was a little shocked that Jamie said that, haha!
Good point
Hence these are blacked out...non-motorized platters. Kinda cool still.
I’m glad someone said it 😂
In the case of a motorized platter, yes. In this case however he's right it's only use is decoration/friction.
Nice!!! Rane Four is incredible!!! As very very old school DJ since the 70's but I love new tech and this is indeed mind blowing!!! Kudos to Rane!!!
The competition in the production of DJ gear is fierce, with a variety of companies striving to produce the best equipment for DJs. With the rise of digital music and the increasing sophistication of DJ technology, it's an exciting time to be producing and using DJ gear. It's great to see so many companies pushing the boundaries of what can be done with DJ gear, and I'm looking forward to seeing what new innovations will come out of this competitive market.
I love this controller. I was 100% on board until I realized the platters aren't motorized. I thought that was kind of the point of the newer Rane products
totally I still have a mint NS7 and it is amazing, except it doesn't work with modern software on Macs.
What does it mean by platters aren’t motorized?
@@InFamousProductions I have the NS7 III which is class-compliant and does not require any drivers or updates for use with newer macOS - love this tank 😃
Thanks for an awesome review crossfader.
I have a rev7 up for sale now. Lol. Rane is the king this year.
Rane has created a beast of a controller.
this beast will eat your money
💯
I would have traded in my Rane 1 if it had motorised platters, massive shame, maybe later🤔🧐😁
I'm definitely getting this as an upgrade, almost bought the 1000-SRT but so glad I waited, thanks for the review!
Thanks!
Thanks for the donation! You're awesome!
This controller is great there is no need for moving platters I have had mine since April No complaints at all .
Great walk through on this unit, at first glance reminds me of thr Pioneer ddj 1000 ( rekordbox edition ) just by the view on the screens. Rane makes QUALITY DJ GEAR AND THAT IS THE TRUTH, anyone remember the Rane ttm 54 ? This unit gives me that same vibe. Being a Rane owner of the Rane 12mk2's, Rane 72mk2, and the Rane 70 A-Trak version. I have used the Rane One, but this unit seems very interesting, hopefully there will be a motorized platter version in the near future.
But I will admit this unit has me thinking 🤔
Great review! I own the Rane One which is my favorite controller, I started on turntables and the One is the closest to 1200s in terms of feel. There is a learning curve for the small platter, but you dial right in! I'm happy to have stems in the new update, I hope to try out mapping some of the keys on the Rane one to set up shortcuts for stems. As others have stated, the non spinning platter is a deal breaker. Honestly I'm glad they don't spin...otherwise I would have had to drop some money on that beast stat!
My guy. The dots on the platter are for the strobe light. So you can look at the platter and see how fast or slow it’s moving. Yes we have always used the side to slow down. But they are not there to add friction. It’s just design transferred from the classic.
I see this as a an amazing replacement for my pioneer DDJ 1000 but a motorized one would be cool also!
Stems are great with old CLASSIC tunes, all the ideas I wish I could've done back in the late 80s are possible now, technology is crazy.
Literally my dream controller if only it had motorized platters
The "dots" on a working turntable are strobe reflectors, to show the turntables speed?
This controller looks like is more for stems ,the effects is spot on .i use the numark ns7ii and im use to spinning platters will make it hard to upgrade as there is no spinning platters and i was really looking forward to this controller.I have to say I'm in two minds about it.But its early days lets see more videos come out on this controller to reaaly make me wanna buy one...as always crossfader always gives good reviews.
What version of serato or vdj do you use
All those Djs who new of the design or seen it first and nobody mentioned to add the moving platters? Release another one with moving platters and this will be the top tier of controllers.
Great review, What are the spects for the laptop you are using?
How do I set the crossfader and levels on the Rane 4 to get crisp scratches in real time ?
"The stroboscopic dots are designed to be used as an indicator to show the change of the speed of the record relative to the normal speed. In simple terms it's a way to quickly see how much faster or slower the record is." Therefore, they are not for friction as you stated.
After owning the rane 12 and 72 mk1 I refuse to purchase dj gears from any company that’s supports just one specific software. With that being said. Awesome video you guys deliver great content all the time. While this controller looks great I’ll be waiting this one out to see how many software it’ll support.
Dj since 1985 here. Technics owned the TT market for 40 years. Still kinda does. Rane legacy heritage hardware build is legendary. Serato is the most stable and implemented SW out there. They may not have a budget for 3 engineers at $150k/yr x 3 platforms. Serato is the most sensible platform to start with. Peace.
It works with vdj and stems works better there
Just time when I get myself one a these controller amma be a beast on mixing rane is just a master piece
Does the Booth/ Zone out mean we'll get a better autoplay and maybe zone output like on the Denon prime gear???? With a separate playlist?
No, this is just an additional output with separate volume control for use as a monitor/booth speaker. It will output the same audio as the main out.
Its.. Its.. Beautiful!
You done a lot of review just a quriousity what is your main DJ setup consist of which you use 70% of the time ?
Any chance we can see the rane 4 on vdj now that that it works with it
Hmm, when you hit the split button @2:12 I found sound quality degraded (prob a bit of phasing/cancelation). Cool concept though.
But why not have motorized platters and least have the option. I'm trying to replace my ns7 3 but nobody is making a suitable replacement
As a business move, it makes more sense to go with a non motorized setup. A few reasons, not everyone wants moving platters unless you're into turntablism. Second, the weight would be crazy. I own a Rane One and it's weighty. Third, given supply chain / shipping situation adding motorized platters would make this a 2k+ controller like the rev 7. Which if I had to guess, this one will be around $1499. There's no way it'll be around $1200 when used ddj 1000srt are selling for above msrp.
Same😥😥
@@atypical_blk_guy I get that but really they need this with both it would be amazing at least make it a special order and charge a grand more I would pay it
I cannot wait for the Pioneer DDJ2000/DDJ1000 mk2 to compete with this!
Hey does this controller have powered wheels?
I can see more Djs ruining the party with stems than enhancing it. Mark my words.
A lot of them are already on Tiktok and Instagram. Mixing instrumentals and acapellas with different key, which is kinda my pet peeve.
@chunkygrumpy7561 It's fun but not a big deal for me. I was doing this 30 years ago when vinyl use to have instrumental and accapellas. I guess what goes around comes around. 😌
I'd you're good you're good If you suck you suck. The audience will let u know
Yeah...just like sound effects did. Lol. Smh.
I agree. Its a new toy and everybody (especially the new DJs) are going to rush to show it off....improperly
I understand the desire for motorized platters. It truly does give that old school turntable feel. However, when you're DJing, it's usually pretty dark and honestly, it's very easy to forget and not even notice that they aren't spinning. Especially with the screen in the center spinning. When I used CDJs, for the longest time I thought it'd feel awful after running 1200s my whole career. You'll adapt quickly.
yh but i like the feel of motorised platters and it makes scratching alot more fun
The next company lauching a bit bigger "SC live 4" with Rane built quality and stems plit feature: I'll buy immmmmediately!
Can u takenout the turntables and replace them with cutom ones like the RAINE ONE
sir where can i buy that USB you are using color green ang flat usb
Amazing review. The mic’s dedicated echo button…is it possible to MIDI map that to a Reverb effect instead?
Great hardware, rane is back again
damn, rane is back again
What year Macbook is compatible with this?
When is this controller coming out I'm ready to buy like now
I love my Rane One, but reading some of the comments, I wouldn't want moving platters on a 4 channel controller. The weight alone would not be fun. Also I think it was a smart move, if you look at the rev 7, it started out as a $1700 controller. It's currently retailed at $2k+. Not to mention the rev 7 has been virtually on backorder for the entire year. I'm almost positive that the Rane four will retail around $1599. Used ddj 1000srts are going for above retail. IMO, once you get above $2k you should be looking at standalones or a two tables and a mixer.
The whole point of getting a controller IMO is because stand alone mixer and decks are super hard to transport for mobile DJs. Otherwise get Rane 12s or CDJs
I can't wait to get this. I want to do blends this going to be easy to tear the house down
So excited!
Whats the size of the jogs???
I think they are 8.5 inch
this is a must have. but anything on price?
such a great controller OMG
That is a reeal professionnal équipement !!!😀
Now this with rane 1 platters will be the best.
But every old-school dj will hat this
Great video! Is it DVS ready?
7:40 let me get this straight, the "dots" on the side of a turntable platter are for friction? umm, interesting? Rane made a big mistake not making the platters motorized. I saw the screens in the middle of the platters and I listed my ONE on ebay... no so fast, rather have motorized platters. stems are ok but I can achieve the same thing in other ways. can't believe that is what they are pushing... get ready for even more drops every minute!!!
Can we use stems feature with streaming music that available through Serato eg. SoundCloud or Tidal?
Everything looks dope! The quality of the mic and crossfader knobs look better. No moving platter option is super lame and what's with going back to 1/4" for booth out?? XLR was such a better move on the Rane One
My overall question is, the Rane Four or the Pioneer DDJ-1000SRT? My money is ready to purchase either one of them. What are y’all thoughts, please? Thanks im advance.
Hello all,
Is it normal with RANE that the output level meter (led indicator) does not change when I turn the main level control?
Only with the channel gain control it changes.
With Pioneer or Denon, the main level control directly affects the level meter. So I can see if the output is overdriven or not.
Glad that finally more midi mixers are coming out with STEM cell capabilities. I have had Traktor S8 for a long time that had this capability however I could not find just any track as a STEM file, hopefully that changes.
I’ll keep my Rane ONE, thanks!
Hopefully they do with the rane 4 like they did with the 12 and 72 mk2 in terms of software support
With hardware effects, so when you record your set trhough serato, do they appear in your recording?
Ohhhhh sheeeeeyittttt. But hold up, no spinning platters 🫤
if you want spinning platters get turntables or rane one smh
i feel like its more gear to the CLUB DJ more so Turntablists
@@WazzyTV wow you know so much. Thanks for the pearls of wisdom. Is the Rane One SMH a special edition? Do you have turntables? Do you have friends and can i be one of them?
@@TBearTheDJ you mean club DJs like me? When I started in 1990, I'm pretty sure I was using turntables🤔
@@DW.Strangeman more so the new age Club DJs that use CDJs
The unit only cost $1500.00. Not a lot but not unreachable, for those that really want it! To me, the price explains the lack of motorized platters. With all the new features, gotta cut some things out to meet target price. I bet they'll introduce a motorized version, after selling tons of v1.
Any idea if and when real-time stem separation is coming to Rekordbox and Pioneer controllers?
Knowing how pioneer's business is, that feature will be issued for subscription to the pro plan, or unlocked by some specific future hardware.
Is stems eventually coming to Rekordbox?
nice unit... Im thinking about switching to Rane...
I was kind of hoping for a jog adjust knob
Is this better than Pioneer DDJ 1000 SRT ?
As a 90s vinyl dinosaur, I think the technology is amazing for messing around with but how much will get used when you’re doing a live set… dare I say but I think it’s too much.
It's really great for creating mixtapes. Having all those functions is a good way to keep things interesting.
@@jesalp have fun 👍
i always say the same thing, for live sets where people are actually DANCING i use very few effects
It could be USB-C connect, two points for Pioneer DDJ FLX10
No Spinning Platters 😂😂😂 No go for me
VDJ been had stems. Everyone else just playing catch up. 🙄
Very cool and great review. Can it isolate musical frequencies / sequences in house, techno, chillout, balearic, D&B etc for those of us who don't scratch vocals?
First I want to say , thanks for always sharing great content , and I am a student who has purchased your training course. I have a question in regards to Stem on Serato, does it work on Video files ( I am VJ)
I think it looks awesome
11:56
Stutter Out aka Fred Again Effect
Any chances to improve the stems quality to reach VIRTUAL DJ 2.0 ?
Virtual Dj is trash...and so is every Dj who uses it.
@@leonardcann6645 what’s your primary job ?
@@massimomarazzo9180 I deal with Natural Health. In also also into the music business/entertainment.
@@massimomarazzo9180 for the record I was being intentionally extra. I don't care what a person uses to do their job...as long as it works for them.
Hi guys, i bought this controller and i have an issue, i cannot make channels 3&4 to work, are running but with out sound (mute in use). I update the firmware and drivers and i use virtual dj. Can someone help me? Thank you, have a nice day!
Traktor s4 mk3 ... for me is still MVP in the controller market .
How much is it going for
its nice especially for stems but i like spinning jogs.Thats the only thing its missing but hey im a bit old fashioned .I got Stems on Serato at long last and my initial impressions are good.This is like when i was using video.Only one issue as my pads will be using the stem function im not sure how i will use cue points at the same time
Can you confirm that the crossfader is NOT software controlled? Usually you can see this in the Serato settings
Yeah would be good to know this. Seems to be one of the complaints about the Rane One. Although I assume it is software controlled since he said you can change the cut in on the unit's software itself
The crossfader is controlled by the hardware in the controller and not in the software there is your answer I own one and it’s damn nice sounds great and I’m a pioneer fan but no more
Now i kinda wish my RANE ONE had platters this size
To each his/her own. I am between getting this or the FL-10.
Please please please! Add more updates to the software, the vocals still sound a little kinda weird, again! When I checked Virtual Dj's latest update with stems mode, my mind was blown up!
If I'm going to invest for the latest laptop with that M1 chip, the process need to be more clean! Great controller though.
I’d put it in slip mode so I don’t lose place if I’m scratching
Rane has showed off with this one goodbye Rev7
And is this out yet
i thought I was going to have epilepsy until I watch this video =))))
Great controller
How much ?
This is what the SZ3 should’ve been
or the srt 2000 because the sz is too big and heavy.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 how much is this thing I may upgrade
No price announced yet 😢
Gonna guess at £1599
You can bet it’ll be more than $1600 USD
@@keithr.hammonds6653 I don't know. No spinning platters and the Rev 7 with the notorious Pioneer Tax comes in at £1800 so i don't think it will be close to that price. At least i would be shocked AF if it is.
Stem Split isn't new, Pioneer released it first with Dual Deck on the DJM S11 and FLX6, although I really like how Rane's Split feature "relocks" or brings the instro back to where the vocal is. You can do it with Dual Deck but you have to instant double and quickly click the instrumental stem.
The fact that the platter doesn’t spin on the Four is the main reason I still prefer the One. That platter sitting still just irks me!
No motorized platters a step backwards.
Mixer looks good but rane one looks more original with no screen
Price?
Not announced yet 😢
It's pretty dope. But the elephant in the room has to be the stem separation that has the phase or pixel sound. We'll all just pretend it's not there. Hey jk. One day the stems will be flawless. You know they'll figure it out.
So good
30 seconds in and i want one
Needs to be standalone in order for me to engage a neck swing