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@@machoguy6727 The game files say otherwise. 4:45 Look at how the individual image assets move into frame, 4:54 and how that particular asset becomes completely detached from Okidogi as they all move out
Another thing I just realized about Kieran’s hair color after you put him and his sister side-by-side, Carmine has a red underside to her hair (Scarlet) and Kieran has a purple underside (Violet).
I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned about the fourth member but the Loyal Three are based off of the Japanese folktale of Momotarō. Momotarō is a boy born from inside a peach, who traveled alongside a talking dog, monkey, and pheasant to fight a band of oni (Ogerpon). All of the Loyal Three are of the category "The Retainer Pokémon" suggesting they are loyal to someone. The shape of the item at Peachy's resembles a peach. With Kieran turning antagonistic I have no doubt he'll be finding the fourth peach member and use it against you, being the boy who was born in a peach.
That's because it's a subversion of the story... and if you pay attention the Momotaro character is there, the wanderer from afar that looks different... aka the human that was with Ogrepon. All five major characters from Momotaro are there in the story. Ogrepon being the representation of the Oni Band, the Lousy Three being the representations of the Dog, Monkey, and Pheasant, and Ogrepon's human friend being Momotaro. The subversion is if the stories had who Momotaro was with backwards the whole time, Momotaro is there... He's just with Ogrepon.
Ogerpon's friend isn't actually the Momotaro figure; it's this missing leader of the Loyal Three taking that role. It's just Momotaro with the roles reversed (IE the oni are innocent, Momotaro and friends are greedy conquerors) @@ElizaGWR
Let's be honest here. It's really Carmin's fault that this happened to him. Our character clearly wanted to tell Kieran but she wouldn't let us due to her selfish and oblivious behavior.
For those saying that the shape in the cutscene is Okidogi's fist, the actual texture files of the game have each member in the cutscene separated into different images, and that one is its own completely different image, with the full thing revealing it to have eyes and be the exact shape of the decoration at Peachy's. Hoops didn't show the file here likely for spoiler reasons. Plus the name of the shop itself is hinting at peaches, which this pokemon seems to be. You can inspect that decoration if you walk to the left and press A, with the game describing it as old and dusty, so it might be from way back in the day when all the trouble happened. Also pretty ironic that it's a peach and likely a poison-type, when the Pecha berry specifically cures poison status.
What I think is going to happen is this: Kieran's anger at being rejected by Ogrepon attracted the ghost type Loyal Three member (who might have been controlling them the entire time.) This leads to him being possessed or at least having his malice towards us multiplied by this mystery Pokemon's presence. Leading Kieran to becoming the mystery trainer from the Indigo Disc trailer.
The Crytsal pool probably gonna tie back to Arven’s or Briar story where they will finally be able to meet the real Sada/Turo/Heath even if it’s just temporary.
Keiran reviving the loyal three is also a very interesting detail, especially the possible ‘purple smoke’ that appeared when he did. Very ghostly of him 👀👀
The Ghost/Poison type that is supposedly the fourth of the "Loyal Trio" is perhaps the "trio master" and the source of the Toxic Chain. It could be that Kieran made contact with it and got wound up in a Toxic Chain himself. If this is the case, then Dipplin's presumed evolution could be based on a "poison apple" or a "forbidden fruit".
I love this theory. While watching the segment about Dipplin, I also thought about Dipplin getting the toxic chain like the loyal 3 and becoming stronger.
I actually believe now that Kieran is gonna have the 4th member of the Loyal Three in his team during Indigo Disk part, and yes I also believe he's gonna be the champion there. Excellent video once again. Dude
@@YvaanAvesna Like Dawn says in the anime, no need to worry. GF/Nintendo/TPC are creative enough to make surprises for new games, they have already proven it several times, especially in LA and SV
You mentioned Kieran and the possible fourth, well look very closely at his wrist when he punches the shrine, a strange purple aurea or powder seems to leak off of him. 😮
@@cloecouvidat2470 it's really hard to see cause it's small and happens very quick. It's the exact moment he punches the shrine. There are other channels, like Hybridhero and Tyranitartube that have discussed the scene and show a clip that gives a good look at it.
Look up the art work for Indigo Disk and zoom in on his hand, you can see there's some purple around it, so it's definitely not some glitch or the game's engine acting up.
fun fact I noticed while trying to give Ogrepon some moves: she can learn all weather moves and if you notice, the three masks that are held items correlate to three of the weathers Hearthflame for sun, Wellspring for rain, and Cornerstone for sandstorm so I think she’ll get an ice type mask, to round this all up
For Kieran going Villan Mode theory with his hair. Two issues with that. 1: If thats true, then we would need a theory for Carmine because she has Reddish( Scarlet) colouring hair underneath that. 2: Maybe his hair is that colour because Scarlet and Violet. As stated above, look at Carmine, she has Scarlet colouring and he has a purpley(Violet) colouring. Its probably just that
This kind of positive review of the DLC expansion is more than welcome and thank you for considering all the positives among the negatives because so many have dealt with the negatives in their own reviews. Also, I am intrigued by who was the old man who arrived and lived with Ogerpon in caves and is he buried somewhere around Kitakami.
Maybe if the unseen pokemon that is associated with the loyal three is a ghost type, it could be possessing Kieran and making him act on the negative feelings that he has been harboring and feeling towards his sister and the player
According to the datamines, he's absolutely gonna be an event. To be more specific, as a side quest. What it entails or how it's done or what's gonna happen is up in the air though.
What if the fourth member is actually the Loyal Three’s trainer, and he’s somehow possessed Kieran? Kieran points out that on the signs you take photos in front of, there’s a person alongside the loyal three.
If the story was twisted up to make Ogerpon the villain, the guy with the trio on the signs could be her friend they killed, erroneously associated with his murderers in the incorrect legend
I'd speculate that the Loyal Three were completely different types before their transformation. Their descriptions made it seem they greatly lacked the traits fitting of their secondary types as well, and only obtained those traits through their toxic chains.
Personally, I agree with a lot of the things you've pointed out. I also think that Carmine is going to have some major role in the next part of the DLC, maybe the former School Champion or the leader of her own Evil Team. There's also the fact that I want to know what Region Ogrepon and the Loyal Three originally come from. Since it's said in their stories that none of them are from Kitakami. 😮
I doubt she will be the leader of her own team. Despite her rough and rude exterior, she actually is a decent person. But, given that Kieren's story seems to not be done yet, I do feel we will see her in the next DLC also.
@forgerofsouls9126 The reason I say she might be the leader of her own team is because of the way she refers to you in her dialog, grunt and underling. Those are things that someone who leads others sometimes calls people below them in their organization.
@@karlline445 Not always true. That is also how tsunderes talk to their friends sometimes. And, given how she is actually a kind person under that rudeness, I could see her "team" not being evil at all. Most likely just a group of friends.
@forgerofsouls9126 But, how do you think she would react if she was the Academy Champion before her brother. I also wonder if the bullies from the Paldea school that were kicked out went to Blueberry Academy, they might influence her into creating a team. Besides, this wouldn't be the first Gen that had more than one Evil Team. Look at Gen 3 and Gen 7.
@@karlline445 I think she would be happy for her brother. Gen 7 had only one evil team, and one misguided person. The Aether Organization, however it is spelled and their boss, were not actually evil. She was just misguided. Remember, she only wanted to hide what they met because she was worried about how her brother might react. Because she was afraid he might get in trouble or hurt.
I have many opinions!! There better be a Fourth secret ghost gang leader loyal three because I hate those little expletives. If they turn out to be under control by something else, I'll be less mad. I wanted to immediately tell Kieran about the true Ogrepon story. I'm mad that wasn't an option cause it contributed to Kierans supervillain back story. It would be cool if the Dipplin evolution is a two-headed flying dragon. Think Hydreigon/flapple fusion. I also thought about the Kieran thing. WHAT IF Kieran becomes more and more under control of the Fourth Ghost Poison Mystery mon?? That'd be crazy. Lastly, the crystal pool is one of my favourite places. It's so pretty.
Also of note, the little statues of the Loyal Three at their shrine in Loyalty Plaza (before they break it) had little knitted coverings representing their respective Toxic Chains, which the little doodad at Peachy's also has. Personal guess, it's a spirit that used the Toxic Chain to bind itself to the living world, which is why the knitted scarf thing on the stone at Peachy's covers so much more of its statue than the other three did. Just as Munkidori wanted intelligence, Okidogi wanted strength, and Fezandipiti wanted beauty, the Fourth wanted an anchor. Also, if your guess about Kieran being involved/foreshadowing it is correct, then it will most likely have yellow as its secondary color like the others have green, blue, and red, because Kieran has that yellow band in his hair.
Wait, wait, WAIT! You totally jogged my memory! The statues have those knitted bits, but who made them? The shopkeeper of Peachy's! She sells knitted clothes at the store!
Idk if this is as much a secret or more of a callback. When you face the Blood Moon Ursaluna boss, the boss music from Legends Arceus plays during the battle
Awe thanks so much for the big shoutout! Glad you could find some use from my posts! This was a great way to some up all the craziness going on in the teal mask!
Something i noticed. After Kieran nicks the teal mask and just before we fight him at the loyal 3 monument, a subtle glitch sort of effect/overlay can be seen in the cutscene on a scene of just him (notice the slightest red and blue edges of colour around Kierans character model and environment plus the darker tones and ever so slightly warped image in the scene that zooms in on his model from a upper angle shot). I wonder if this was the loyal 3 using his anger and spite combined with the teal masks power to slowly revive themselves, or maybe the mystery 4th pokemon used this pure anger to power up enough so it could revive the loyal 3 and has attatched itself to Kieran to feed more on his anger in hopes to revive itself, reclaim the loyal 3, and finish Ogerpon off once and for all. Edit: something that someone on tiktok pointed out, I cannot name them tight now but I'll see if I can remember later, that I want to add in here, when Kieran punches the monument of the loyal 3, a small, short lived, purple haze can be seen emits from his hand just before he retracts it. That punch is what brought the loyal 3 back. But what exactly powered up that purple haze? What gave Kieran that power in his punch to revive the loyal 3? It can't be the loyal 3 themselves, they are dead. It can't be the teal mask alone, it only revives farmland and crop. It has to have been amplified by something else. Purple lines up with 3 types. Ghost, poison and dragon, and dragon is a bit closer to blue than purple. It's shade also isn't quite the same shade as poison, but very similar to ghost, maybe a mix between the 2. That has to have something to do with the 4th member of the loyal 3. Meaning that Kieran has a connection to these loyal 3 pokemon and mystery pokemon. Perhaps deeper than just a colour match between toxic vhains and hidden hair colours. So here's what I've got in easier reading. Kieran isnt fully in control of his emotions. His negative feelings are being amplified by some mysterious force, evident by the glitch from when he talks about us lying to him. After the battle, the loyal 3 were then brought back by a purple tinted punch delivered by Kieran, possibly powered up by this same force due to its purple haze. The colours and visual effects suggest poison type and ghost type in their own ways through confusing and hallucinogenic related effects, which connect to your theory on the 4th member of the loyal 3 being a poison ghost type. While Kieran isn't exactly possessed, persay, he isn't exactly in pure control either. His anger to us and Carmine may be genuine, but don't think he meant for it to go so far. I think that it's being artificially amplified by the mystery pokemon.
also the 4th loyal 3 member has been shown in full by others, it's a pig-peach sort of mon that people are thinking might be momotoro inspired, t-tar tube covers it and shows the files for it too.
Ah yes, Dokutaro. Absolutely love that little feller. It apparently has a lot of significance in The Indigo Disk DLC, in a sidequest, at least, according to the datamines folks had done. Wonder what kind of story they're planning on telling with it because so far, ScVi isn't missing in the story department.
My theory is that once the Indigo Disk comes out a new side quest will become available in Kitakami allowing us to find and catch this secret legendary poison peach ghost.
Your observation about Kieran's hair color reminded me that in the final cutscene we see him from behind, pulling his hair back out of his face and tying it with... something (he doesn't remove the yellow band, so it'ssomething else.) Possibly to show more of that "crazy purple", but also, how wild would it be if we see him in Indigo Disk with a Toxic Chain hair tie?
This was a great video! It makes me want to pay more attention when I play through it again in my Scarlet save! The possibility of a fourth member controlling the Loyal Three actually seems plausible & I never really noticed that, but honestly, I hope it happens! I really want to see if this connects with Kieran's arc, given how that last cutscene shows our once-shy boy going villain-mode. Maybe the fourth member - this possibly Poison/Ghost Pokémon - is fueling his growing malice & probably will make him into a much stronger trainer (like how it did the same to the Loyal Three when they were once weak & wanted power to get Ogerpon's masks)? Since he is a student at Blueberry Academy, he'll definitely be a surprise super-strong boss for us to defeat, I'm sure. Also, with the Crystal Pool... did anyone else notice that the music that plays when you're in the area very much resembles the music in Area Zero? I haven't heard anyone talk about that, but given its importance to the plot, yeah... it would make sense that it connects with the overall DLC story & possibility the true "Treasure" that we will find out about in the Indigo Disk part.
"4th Member of the Loyal 3" So we just gonna ignore the old moniker of a "Trio Master"?... In the code, it's known as "Dokutaro", while the toy at PEACHY'S is similar.
I think the fourth Pokémon is actually this corruption Pokémon that the loyal three went to, in order to gain what they desired, and the Pokémon granted it to them, but it also cursed them to serve it for all eternity. The chains on their body represent its control over them, and how it turned them into the opposite of what they originally were. And here’s another question what happened to Ogrepon‘s original trainer like they just up and vanished I think the fourth Pokémon took something or should I say someone and is using ogrepom trainer as a host like it needs their body in order to survive, or just to make themselves stronger. And it’s been so long the Pokémon needs a new host and it’s set it's sights on a person who is consumed with rage and anger the perfect host for them.
I feel that Kieran is possible the reincarnation of The Loyal Three's trainer. The reason I believe this is that on the Signposts that tell the "story" of how the loyal three saved the village, there is a human seen with them and there's even a NPC who tells you they believe that it was the trainer of the loyal three. So that may explain why Keiran may have a connection to the loyal three. After all they did come back to life after he punched the monument
If you look closely at the signposts you can see that the trainer of the loyal three also has a chain hanging from him, which suggests that he also was controlled/corrupted by that fourth member. Also Kieran clearly also shows signs of being possessed by something, because his eyes often change to a dull yellow instead of his normal bright shining eyes. And if you look closely his eyes getting dull comes also with a faint purple aura around his hands, especially when he is angry and makes a fist while being "angry". His demeanor also drastically changes only when his eyes are dull. It is getting worse over the course of the Story until it reaches its peak at the end Credit Scene where he seems to be fully controlled by it.
@@TailsTheFoxy To be fair, the dull eyes exist in many anime inspired media to either show mind control or in this instance, to show that they're absolutely not messing around. But yes, I do believe that Kieran may possibly be possessed by this weird peach at some point. Not because of the weird monument punching thing but because it just feels natural for his story to search for another small creature that's persecuted in some way.
In addition to the symbols in the pokedex, Koraidon, Miraidon and Ogerpon are the only pokedex entries that have a goldenish line on the book for their entries while all other Pokémon are either yellow (SV) or teal (TM).
They’ve done the teal mask story better than any other Pokémon dlc story (imo). Since they’re pandering to Galar, they better not screw it up and make Leon the champion of blueberry academy instead of Kieran. CHARIZARD DOESNT NEED ANYMORE LOVE (like a new Tera form).
it seems like Keiran IS a member of the Loyal Three! he has the Toxic Chain under his hair, he becomes lousy and villainous as The Teal Mask progresses, and in Momotaro a dog, monkey, bird, and human fight an ogre. also, Keiran was once weak but gets stronger as well.
The 4th Member of the Loyal 3 if it is Ghost Type has taken over Kieran’s mind and is making him go crazy and fed off the negative emotions that Kieran was feeling when he found out they were talking behind his back and the 4th member increased that emotion to make Kieran crazy with jealousy. that’s my best guess 🤷♂️
I have a theory about Terapagos and I don't think anyone has ever talked about it. What if Terapagos was originally from Kitakami, specifically the from the crystal pool. There's some why that might be the case. #1: the crystals in the pool have the same hexagons as the ones in area zero and in Heath's scarlet/violet book #2: the music at the pool has the same melody and choir just like area zero #3: Mrs. Briar told us that the crystal pool has the same power as terastallization #4: and before you get the item to fix Ogerpon's mask you and Caramine had to fight a wild Milotic so maybe it might hint that Terapagos is a water type (not sure yet) I think there could a reason how Terapagos got to area zero, Terapagos was resting and relaxing at the crystal pool gathering terastal energy, the Loyal three at the time scared terapagos out of the pool and fled to area zero and stayed there till 200 years ago, when Heath and the research team went down to area zero, when they got there, Terapagos didn't want Heath there so Terapagos used all of its Terastal energy to transform into the crown form (that we saw in the latest indigo disk trailer with all the tera types) it was so powerful, that Heath passed out, Terapagos erased Heath's memories, and created a sketch of the equations using its mind, gave the sketch to Heath, when he woke up, he didn't remember drawing the sketch, but he said it's his own handwriting so this explains how he got his hands on the sketch it wasn't the dream theory or anything else, Terapagos created the sketch of the equations, not the dream theory (if you heard of it)
The kid becoming a bad guy is not a hidden secret at all. That was so obvious from the start really. Even more so after he stole the mask. To me, that should not be in the video. Though, the hair foreshadowing his fall, is actually neat. As the colors could indeed be showing that he would go villain. Though, that could just have been a coincendence due to the scarlet vs violet thing someone else pointed out. Seriously, dead people spotted Kieren going evil from their graves, that was how obvious it was. Pretty sure it is no secret to anyone.
Wow, I didn't notice these! It's crazy how easily the 4th pkm at Peachy's could slip from your eye. There's another foreshadow we could possibly draw from the connection between Kieran's hair and the Loyal Three. It is said that the toxic chain made the Loyal Three stronger and more beefed up than they used to be. Maybe this is foreshadowing that in Part 2, not only Kieran would get more antagonistic, but he'll also get a lot stronger. Interesting video!
If ther is a fourth member of the "loyal three " and it is ghost type, maybe it possessed Mr. Crybaby which explains why his mood changed and his fist releasing the other three.
Speaking of the key art lanterns, the type icons even follow a set pattern (from left to right): 1. Grass (Ogrepon) 2. Fire (Hearthflame) 3. Water (Wellspring) 4. Rock (Cornerstone) 5. Poison (Loyal Three) 6. Fighting (Okidogi) 7. Psychic (Munkidori) 8. Fairy (Fezandipiti) 9. Ghost (mystery Pokemon) and then the pattern restarts. This is easiest to see if you start with the right-side bottom row, then see how the pattern continues into right-side middle row, and finally how Ghost loops back to Grass in left-side top row.
As far as I can tell and saw, there are two antagonist in the DLC part 2, Kieran(with probably the 4th member of the "Loyal" Three) and Ms. Briar( idk about you guys but that lady seems very sus to me from her behavior, her desires, her design heck even her theme is sus).
If you notice before Kieran punches the Loyal Three’s statues his hand turns purple.. maybe they’re foreshadowing that the 4th ghost/poison member is controlling him, hence why he’s starts to act crazy towards the end… it would also explain why the loyal three woke up “out of nowhere”
Ok here me out, The forth member of the loyal "three" is gengar. Think about it. Its a ghost poison type which would fit in with the idea and its a round boi. Its not pink but who cares when we have this much evidence?
I kinda believe that there will be more DLCs coming. Yellow and red 'stars' on the 'The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero' logo in my opinion are there on purpose. Also inside the school in the classrooms too much yellow color details on the wall posters. Let's say green star represent Ogrepon and blue one Terapagos. What do you think? Nevertheless, upper right corner part resembles the lake, bottom left resembles the Blueberry academy logo. Two of them left.
Am I the only one who thinks Keiran and Carmine look like Geeta? They have similar hair 'texture', and while Geeta doesn't have any under colour, she does have the spots, and they could have gotten the secondary colour (And eye colour) from their father. (Or are just very fashion forward and get their hair dyed snrk). While I'm unsure of where their father is, but if their mother is busy running the league in Paldea, it would explain why they live with their grandparents. I think this is going to my personal headcanon until I die unless the other half of the DLC says otherwise lol. As an added note, their mother being a champion (even if everyone IRL thinks she's weak sauce) would make sense why they're so talented at battling. Like Palmer and Barry kind of deal. Being a strong trainer seems to weirdly run through families. (Alder and Benga, Draydon and Drayton possibly, Flint and Buck, Lusamine and Lillie and Gladion, Giovanni and Silver, and Norman and May/Brendan, etc)
Dokutaro The Lousy Three Master has codename Dokutaro and this "part of figure" ur talking about in the video, can be found in files, and there's full image of Dokutaro
the shape at the end of each the loyal three's purple "chains" also matches this 4th member, maybe implying that the 4th pokemon is what gave them the toxic chains
That is clearly Okidogis fist in the picture durinf the storytelling, and the object in the shop is just a plushy of the toxic chain. The only slightest hint that there may be a fourth pokemon is in the way Kieran seemingly becomes possessed or filled with negative emotions, despite how kind and shy he first comes off as.
Based on how Kieran acts at the end of the DLC and also in the trailer for the Indigo Disk how your character gets shocked when they see who we believe may be the Champion of the BB League, I have a feeling we may be taking on Kieran there as the Champion... As for what Pokémon he'll have, he'll likely have his Dipplin's final form being his ace Pokémon as well.
Similar to the blood moon ursaluna quest I think the new loyal three + Kieran will be a main side quest to get the new legendary. Main quest will deal with area zero
I had thought up of the idea from the chains altering the loyal 3's but didnt say much thinking it wouldn't gain much but good on silver to take it upon him 😀
I've got some faith because Game Freak has been doing really well with this in ScarVi, but I'm a little nervous about how Kieran will progress as a villain. While he does become antagonistic, it's important to note that the origin of his antagonism is his trauma, and that needs to be handled delicately. Kieran, like Arven and Penny, is a victim of abuse, and was traumatized when the first person he considered a friend betrayed him, and it's important to keep that in mind with his apparent descent into villainy. He can definitely be an antagonist, I'm just hoping that Game Freak doesn't accidentally handle it poorly.
I don't agree with the Kieran one, you seemed to have forgotten or not noticed the underside of Carmines hair is red. One has red hair and the other purple, or you could say one was Scarlet and the other Violet. I don't think theres any deeper meaning than that.
Yknow, another thing thing I noticed is that the new member of the loyal three looks like the logo of team Aqua when the Pokémon is upside down but it’s probably a coincidence.
What if Kieran *becomes* the fourth member of the loyal three? We've had kyurem white and black, ash Greninja, and ice rider and shadow rider Calyrex, just to name a few, so why not?
About the possible fourth pokemon from the loyal three. All loyal three have a somewhat similar shape in their toxic chains. The ends of those chains end in a circle with two parts under it.
Hmm, imagine if that 'plushie' thing we see at Peachies is actually a Pokemon and the secret fourth member of the Loyal Three itself, hidden in plain sight, just sleeping there...? Also, as you mentioned, one of the symbols is the crystal pool... what of the other three symbols? Perhaps they might each be hiding something maybe, (some may already be known)..?
I’m honestly surprised he didn’t mention it but- Some people have been able to get into the game files for that cutscene and get a much better view of the Pokémon! It matches the plush at the stand 100% My big question is that only it’s head or is it really just that for its whole body! A little flying peach!
Regarding the 4th member of the Loyal Three, or Dokutaro as it has been called by leakers, I actually have contradicted a sort of investigation board about it, because man I am obsessed with leaked Pokémon!
I honestly felt like Kieran was possessed by the end of the dlc. So it makes sense if the last of the toxic chain Pokémon is ghost. Could be he’s possessed by the last one. 🤷♂️
One crazy secret is that almost all of sv pkm can be categorized as either a man a bird or dog, and even the loyal three reflect that since monkidori is the man, okifogi is the dog, and fezandipiti is the bird crazy right
On the note of the hinted fourth member of the Loyal Three.....there's also the signboards, which depict Ogerpon running from the Loyal Three....and there's another figure (resembling a trainer, but who knows?) with the Loyal Three. Like. Who could that be?
I'd like to point something out to everyone suggesting that Kieran is possessed by the peach ghost. After the player learns Ogerpon's true story and Kieran overhears, you go off to find him to track down the last sign... And where do you find him? At Peachy's shop, where the figure can be found. I believe it's entirely possible that the peach ghost latched onto Kieran's negative emotions and sense of betrayal at Ogerpon's story being kept from him, and possessed him in this brief timeframe. From this point onward, Kieran's sweet self starts to deteriorate as the ghost takes further control, and has regained enough power to revive the Lousy Three by the time you meet him at the shrine, hence the purple glow some people have noticed when Kieran punches it. It's just an observation, but who knows?
I named the loyal three in my copy: Vick the okidogi Boots the munkidori And Chloe the fenzindipedi. The 2 you can already guess, but Chloe was named after my toxic EX gf.
Partly because of the harsh nature of the Timeless Woods, a place that is clearly stated to not be Ursaluna's primary habitat, liking bogs and such and partly because it apparently became calm and sagely with decades of experience, with it using the spirit of the moon to attack and some such.
The long life coming from drinking terastallized water [the crystal pool flows down from Oni Mountain into the Timeless Woods], a theory of BirdKeeperToby, feels like it has a bunch of merit to me - it's both wise [with the heightened lifespan], body and powers changed from the aforementioned crystal energies, and is a top predator due to being cut off from the rest of the main land. It however is - probably - the only remaining wild Ursaluna left in the world, though.
IF there is a 4th member it's the leader. I don't know how it's displayed in other languages but in german all three are called "Lakai" pokemon which translates to "Lakay". So the 4th member should be the leader AND the one who gave them their poison accessories.
Say what you want about the graphics and framerate(which I’m not excusing by saying this), but pokemon seems to only be getting better and better when it comes to the story and gameplay. I absolutely LOVE Kieran, Ogerpon and Carmine’s characters and arcs throughout the dlc and can’t wait to see how it’s followed
I have a feeling they were stoatland unphezant and one of the simi's leaning towards simipour do to them both being blue meaning they are from unova also ghost could be representing polchagheist and sinescha but why wouldn't dragon be there for dipplin
So which of these secrets interests you the most? Is there a secret in the games that you've noticed that I didn't mention?
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that's not a fourth figure that's just okidogis other hand you're seeing
@@machoguy6727 The game files say otherwise. 4:45 Look at how the individual image assets move into frame, 4:54 and how that particular asset becomes completely detached from Okidogi as they all move out
Remember how you thought we'd get a new unova game? Well, indigo disk is set in unova
Pretty sure thats Not a 4th pokemon... i think thats supposed to be ogidogis right fist.
Another thing I just realized about Kieran’s hair color after you put him and his sister side-by-side, Carmine has a red underside to her hair (Scarlet) and Kieran has a purple underside (Violet).
Hm, that’s a good point,mi wonder if that is supposed to mean something?
@@johanstenfelt1206Well you see, the games are called Scarlet and Violet. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned about the fourth member but the Loyal Three are based off of the Japanese folktale of Momotarō. Momotarō is a boy born from inside a peach, who traveled alongside a talking dog, monkey, and pheasant to fight a band of oni (Ogerpon).
All of the Loyal Three are of the category "The Retainer Pokémon" suggesting they are loyal to someone. The shape of the item at Peachy's resembles a peach.
With Kieran turning antagonistic I have no doubt he'll be finding the fourth peach member and use it against you, being the boy who was born in a peach.
That and the full image of this supposed fourth member looks like an upside-down peach, like the toy at Peachy's.
That's because it's a subversion of the story... and if you pay attention the Momotaro character is there, the wanderer from afar that looks different... aka the human that was with Ogrepon. All five major characters from Momotaro are there in the story. Ogrepon being the representation of the Oni Band, the Lousy Three being the representations of the Dog, Monkey, and Pheasant, and Ogrepon's human friend being Momotaro. The subversion is if the stories had who Momotaro was with backwards the whole time, Momotaro is there... He's just with Ogrepon.
Ogerpon's friend isn't actually the Momotaro figure; it's this missing leader of the Loyal Three taking that role. It's just Momotaro with the roles reversed (IE the oni are innocent, Momotaro and friends are greedy conquerors) @@ElizaGWR
Kieran also was the one who revived the loyal three, be it unintentionally. This adds even more foreshadowing
It doesn't look like a peach to me it looks like the end of the chain they all wear
Seriously. We are Kieran's super-villain origin story. We get to watch it unfold before our eyes and we are /powerless/ to stop it.
Lol keiren is gonna get stomped back to reality just like he did in the teal mask
Gonna use ogerpon to beat the crap out of kieran in the 2nd part of the dlc
Let's be honest here. It's really Carmin's fault that this happened to him. Our character clearly wanted to tell Kieran but she wouldn't let us due to her selfish and oblivious behavior.
The whole time I just wanted to let him catch Ogrepon. I guess the story would've been less interesting that way though.
me with an ev trained choice specs dragapult and swords dance ogrepon: 💀
For those saying that the shape in the cutscene is Okidogi's fist, the actual texture files of the game have each member in the cutscene separated into different images, and that one is its own completely different image, with the full thing revealing it to have eyes and be the exact shape of the decoration at Peachy's. Hoops didn't show the file here likely for spoiler reasons.
Plus the name of the shop itself is hinting at peaches, which this pokemon seems to be.
You can inspect that decoration if you walk to the left and press A, with the game describing it as old and dusty, so it might be from way back in the day when all the trouble happened.
Also pretty ironic that it's a peach and likely a poison-type, when the Pecha berry specifically cures poison status.
Ah, okay, I was questioning that too, but if what you say is true, i guess it’s pretty valid then.
They made it
If the fourth Loyal 3 member is a ghost type, maybe it's possessing or influencing Kieren and that's why he's turning evil.
What I think is going to happen is this: Kieran's anger at being rejected by Ogrepon attracted the ghost type Loyal Three member (who might have been controlling them the entire time.) This leads to him being possessed or at least having his malice towards us multiplied by this mystery Pokemon's presence. Leading Kieran to becoming the mystery trainer from the Indigo Disc trailer.
The Crytsal pool probably gonna tie back to Arven’s or Briar story where they will finally be able to meet the real Sada/Turo/Heath even if it’s just temporary.
Heath ?
@@thunderfyrekinggaming2243
Heath is Briar's ancestor and the author of the Scarlet/Violet book.
Keiran reviving the loyal three is also a very interesting detail, especially the possible ‘purple smoke’ that appeared when he did. Very ghostly of him 👀👀
The Ghost/Poison type that is supposedly the fourth of the "Loyal Trio" is perhaps the "trio master" and the source of the Toxic Chain. It could be that Kieran made contact with it and got wound up in a Toxic Chain himself.
If this is the case, then Dipplin's presumed evolution could be based on a "poison apple" or a "forbidden fruit".
I love this theory. While watching the segment about Dipplin, I also thought about Dipplin getting the toxic chain like the loyal 3 and becoming stronger.
I actually believe now that Kieran is gonna have the 4th member of the Loyal Three in his team during Indigo Disk part, and yes I also believe he's gonna be the champion there. Excellent video once again. Dude
Thank you!!
@@YvaanAvesnaGood theory dude.
@@YvaanAvesna Like Dawn says in the anime, no need to worry. GF/Nintendo/TPC are creative enough to make surprises for new games, they have already proven it several times, especially in LA and SV
You mentioned Kieran and the possible fourth, well look very closely at his wrist when he punches the shrine, a strange purple aurea or powder seems to leak off of him. 😮
I have see the scène again and i haven’t seen nothing.
@@cloecouvidat2470 there's a channel named "LuckyPunch" They've uploaded a video about it.
@@cloecouvidat2470 it's really hard to see cause it's small and happens very quick. It's the exact moment he punches the shrine. There are other channels, like Hybridhero and Tyranitartube that have discussed the scene and show a clip that gives a good look at it.
Look up the art work for Indigo Disk and zoom in on his hand, you can see there's some purple around it, so it's definitely not some glitch or the game's engine acting up.
@@davidstinger1134 Yes i have see the purple color in the artwork.
fun fact I noticed while trying to give Ogrepon some moves:
she can learn all weather moves
and if you notice, the three masks that are held items correlate to three of the weathers
Hearthflame for sun, Wellspring for rain, and Cornerstone for sandstorm
so I think she’ll get an ice type mask, to round this all up
For Kieran going Villan Mode theory with his hair. Two issues with that.
1: If thats true, then we would need a theory for Carmine because she has Reddish( Scarlet) colouring hair underneath that.
2: Maybe his hair is that colour because Scarlet and Violet. As stated above, look at Carmine, she has Scarlet colouring and he has a purpley(Violet) colouring. Its probably just that
This kind of positive review of the DLC expansion is more than welcome and thank you for considering all the positives among the negatives because so many have dealt with the negatives in their own reviews.
Also, I am intrigued by who was the old man who arrived and lived with Ogerpon in caves and is he buried somewhere around Kitakami.
inb4 the old man was Ingo. Would tie it even more into the story of Hisui.
I'd love that to be true but what we see of him doesn't look anything like Ingo. He reminds me more of AZ, given how big he seems.
Maybe if the unseen pokemon that is associated with the loyal three is a ghost type, it could be possessing Kieran and making him act on the negative feelings that he has been harboring and feeling towards his sister and the player
I’m hoping the 4th member of the loyal 3 isn’t some interment distribution but an event in game where we need ogerpon and the loyal 3 to summon it.
According to the datamines, he's absolutely gonna be an event. To be more specific, as a side quest. What it entails or how it's done or what's gonna happen is up in the air though.
What if the fourth member is actually the Loyal Three’s trainer, and he’s somehow possessed Kieran? Kieran points out that on the signs you take photos in front of, there’s a person alongside the loyal three.
If the story was twisted up to make Ogerpon the villain, the guy with the trio on the signs could be her friend they killed, erroneously associated with his murderers in the incorrect legend
I'd speculate that the Loyal Three were completely different types before their transformation. Their descriptions made it seem they greatly lacked the traits fitting of their secondary types as well, and only obtained those traits through their toxic chains.
Maybe the fourth member of the trio is somehow possessing Kieran or poisoning his mind with anger
Personally, I agree with a lot of the things you've pointed out. I also think that Carmine is going to have some major role in the next part of the DLC, maybe the former School Champion or the leader of her own Evil Team.
There's also the fact that I want to know what Region Ogrepon and the Loyal Three originally come from. Since it's said in their stories that none of them are from Kitakami. 😮
I doubt she will be the leader of her own team. Despite her rough and rude exterior, she actually is a decent person. But, given that Kieren's story seems to not be done yet, I do feel we will see her in the next DLC also.
@forgerofsouls9126 The reason I say she might be the leader of her own team is because of the way she refers to you in her dialog, grunt and underling. Those are things that someone who leads others sometimes calls people below them in their organization.
@@karlline445 Not always true. That is also how tsunderes talk to their friends sometimes. And, given how she is actually a kind person under that rudeness, I could see her "team" not being evil at all. Most likely just a group of friends.
@forgerofsouls9126 But, how do you think she would react if she was the Academy Champion before her brother.
I also wonder if the bullies from the Paldea school that were kicked out went to Blueberry Academy, they might influence her into creating a team.
Besides, this wouldn't be the first Gen that had more than one Evil Team. Look at Gen 3 and Gen 7.
@@karlline445 I think she would be happy for her brother.
Gen 7 had only one evil team, and one misguided person. The Aether Organization, however it is spelled and their boss, were not actually evil. She was just misguided.
Remember, she only wanted to hide what they met because she was worried about how her brother might react. Because she was afraid he might get in trouble or hurt.
I have many opinions!!
There better be a Fourth secret ghost gang leader loyal three because I hate those little expletives. If they turn out to be under control by something else, I'll be less mad.
I wanted to immediately tell Kieran about the true Ogrepon story. I'm mad that wasn't an option cause it contributed to Kierans supervillain back story.
It would be cool if the Dipplin evolution is a two-headed flying dragon. Think Hydreigon/flapple fusion.
I also thought about the Kieran thing. WHAT IF Kieran becomes more and more under control of the Fourth Ghost Poison Mystery mon?? That'd be crazy.
Lastly, the crystal pool is one of my favourite places. It's so pretty.
Thanks for your opinions haha!! 😁 Kieran being under control of the ghost peach mon would be wild!! I kinda hope it happens!!
You're right about lying to Keiran, that made me absolutely furious for the rest of the DLC!
Also of note, the little statues of the Loyal Three at their shrine in Loyalty Plaza (before they break it) had little knitted coverings representing their respective Toxic Chains, which the little doodad at Peachy's also has.
Personal guess, it's a spirit that used the Toxic Chain to bind itself to the living world, which is why the knitted scarf thing on the stone at Peachy's covers so much more of its statue than the other three did. Just as Munkidori wanted intelligence, Okidogi wanted strength, and Fezandipiti wanted beauty, the Fourth wanted an anchor. Also, if your guess about Kieran being involved/foreshadowing it is correct, then it will most likely have yellow as its secondary color like the others have green, blue, and red, because Kieran has that yellow band in his hair.
Wait, wait, WAIT! You totally jogged my memory! The statues have those knitted bits, but who made them? The shopkeeper of Peachy's! She sells knitted clothes at the store!
All this DLC told me is the Pokémon company can come up with a good story if they try
Idk if this is as much a secret or more of a callback. When you face the Blood Moon Ursaluna boss, the boss music from Legends Arceus plays during the battle
Awe thanks so much for the big shoutout! Glad you could find some use from my posts! This was a great way to some up all the craziness going on in the teal mask!
Thanks for pointing out such cool info!! 😊 glad you liked it!
Something i noticed.
After Kieran nicks the teal mask and just before we fight him at the loyal 3 monument, a subtle glitch sort of effect/overlay can be seen in the cutscene on a scene of just him (notice the slightest red and blue edges of colour around Kierans character model and environment plus the darker tones and ever so slightly warped image in the scene that zooms in on his model from a upper angle shot). I wonder if this was the loyal 3 using his anger and spite combined with the teal masks power to slowly revive themselves, or maybe the mystery 4th pokemon used this pure anger to power up enough so it could revive the loyal 3 and has attatched itself to Kieran to feed more on his anger in hopes to revive itself, reclaim the loyal 3, and finish Ogerpon off once and for all.
Edit: something that someone on tiktok pointed out, I cannot name them tight now but I'll see if I can remember later, that I want to add in here, when Kieran punches the monument of the loyal 3, a small, short lived, purple haze can be seen emits from his hand just before he retracts it. That punch is what brought the loyal 3 back. But what exactly powered up that purple haze? What gave Kieran that power in his punch to revive the loyal 3? It can't be the loyal 3 themselves, they are dead. It can't be the teal mask alone, it only revives farmland and crop. It has to have been amplified by something else.
Purple lines up with 3 types. Ghost, poison and dragon, and dragon is a bit closer to blue than purple. It's shade also isn't quite the same shade as poison, but very similar to ghost, maybe a mix between the 2. That has to have something to do with the 4th member of the loyal 3. Meaning that Kieran has a connection to these loyal 3 pokemon and mystery pokemon. Perhaps deeper than just a colour match between toxic vhains and hidden hair colours.
So here's what I've got in easier reading. Kieran isnt fully in control of his emotions. His negative feelings are being amplified by some mysterious force, evident by the glitch from when he talks about us lying to him. After the battle, the loyal 3 were then brought back by a purple tinted punch delivered by Kieran, possibly powered up by this same force due to its purple haze. The colours and visual effects suggest poison type and ghost type in their own ways through confusing and hallucinogenic related effects, which connect to your theory on the 4th member of the loyal 3 being a poison ghost type. While Kieran isn't exactly possessed, persay, he isn't exactly in pure control either. His anger to us and Carmine may be genuine, but don't think he meant for it to go so far. I think that it's being artificially amplified by the mystery pokemon.
Seriously the newer generations have so much untapped creepypasta potential.
@@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730 agreed!
also the 4th loyal 3 member has been shown in full by others, it's a pig-peach sort of mon that people are thinking might be momotoro inspired, t-tar tube covers it and shows the files for it too.
Ah yes, Dokutaro. Absolutely love that little feller. It apparently has a lot of significance in The Indigo Disk DLC, in a sidequest, at least, according to the datamines folks had done. Wonder what kind of story they're planning on telling with it because so far, ScVi isn't missing in the story department.
@@GoinGreninjafella not feller u mong
@@arty.man10 It is actually feller, bud. Which actually got shortened over time to fella. It's like going from kind of to kinda.
@@GoinGreninja well actually 👆🤓
Ghost could be a reference to the Loyal Three being reborn.
My theory is that once the Indigo Disk comes out a new side quest will become available in Kitakami allowing us to find and catch this secret legendary poison peach ghost.
Your observation about Kieran's hair color reminded me that in the final cutscene we see him from behind, pulling his hair back out of his face and tying it with... something (he doesn't remove the yellow band, so it'ssomething else.) Possibly to show more of that "crazy purple", but also, how wild would it be if we see him in Indigo Disk with a Toxic Chain hair tie?
I can’t wait to see Kieran again in the dlc.
I always thought the peach pokemon gave the loyal three thier chains because the end is shaped liked the peach
This was a great video! It makes me want to pay more attention when I play through it again in my Scarlet save!
The possibility of a fourth member controlling the Loyal Three actually seems plausible & I never really noticed that, but honestly, I hope it happens! I really want to see if this connects with Kieran's arc, given how that last cutscene shows our once-shy boy going villain-mode. Maybe the fourth member - this possibly Poison/Ghost Pokémon - is fueling his growing malice & probably will make him into a much stronger trainer (like how it did the same to the Loyal Three when they were once weak & wanted power to get Ogerpon's masks)? Since he is a student at Blueberry Academy, he'll definitely be a surprise super-strong boss for us to defeat, I'm sure.
Also, with the Crystal Pool... did anyone else notice that the music that plays when you're in the area very much resembles the music in Area Zero? I haven't heard anyone talk about that, but given its importance to the plot, yeah... it would make sense that it connects with the overall DLC story & possibility the true "Treasure" that we will find out about in the Indigo Disk part.
"4th Member of the Loyal 3"
So we just gonna ignore the old moniker of a "Trio Master"?...
In the code, it's known as "Dokutaro", while the toy at PEACHY'S is similar.
I think the fourth Pokémon is actually this corruption Pokémon that the loyal three went to, in order to gain what they desired, and the Pokémon granted it to them, but it also cursed them to serve it for all eternity. The chains on their body represent its control over them, and how it turned them into the opposite of what they originally were. And here’s another question what happened to Ogrepon‘s original trainer like they just up and vanished I think the fourth Pokémon took something or should I say someone and is using ogrepom trainer as a host like it needs their body in order to survive, or just to make themselves stronger. And it’s been so long the Pokémon needs a new host and it’s set it's sights on a person who is consumed with rage and anger the perfect host for them.
The game tells you the trio killed Ogerpon's friend. That's why she clubbed them to death
You know I can't let your plush slip by without snagging it! Considering I've been watching your videos for 10 years! 🤯 True fan right here! 😤😂
I feel that Kieran is possible the reincarnation of The Loyal Three's trainer. The reason I believe this is that on the Signposts that tell the "story" of how the loyal three saved the village, there is a human seen with them and there's even a NPC who tells you they believe that it was the trainer of the loyal three. So that may explain why Keiran may have a connection to the loyal three. After all they did come back to life after he punched the monument
If you look closely at the signposts you can see that the trainer of the loyal three also has a chain hanging from him, which suggests that he also was controlled/corrupted by that fourth member. Also Kieran clearly also shows signs of being possessed by something, because his eyes often change to a dull yellow instead of his normal bright shining eyes. And if you look closely his eyes getting dull comes also with a faint purple aura around his hands, especially when he is angry and makes a fist while being "angry". His demeanor also drastically changes only when his eyes are dull. It is getting worse over the course of the Story until it reaches its peak at the end Credit Scene where he seems to be fully controlled by it.
@@TailsTheFoxy To be fair, the dull eyes exist in many anime inspired media to either show mind control or in this instance, to show that they're absolutely not messing around. But yes, I do believe that Kieran may possibly be possessed by this weird peach at some point. Not because of the weird monument punching thing but because it just feels natural for his story to search for another small creature that's persecuted in some way.
the crystal pool is also shaped lie terapagos
In addition to the symbols in the pokedex, Koraidon, Miraidon and Ogerpon are the only pokedex entries that have a goldenish line on the book for their entries while all other Pokémon are either yellow (SV) or teal (TM).
I kinda sense Kieran wanted Ogerpon for not just being a strong Pokemon, but use it for revenge against everybody.
They’ve done the teal mask story better than any other Pokémon dlc story (imo). Since they’re pandering to Galar, they better not screw it up and make Leon the champion of blueberry academy instead of Kieran. CHARIZARD DOESNT NEED ANYMORE LOVE (like a new Tera form).
it seems like Keiran IS a member of the Loyal Three! he has the Toxic Chain under his hair, he becomes lousy and villainous as The Teal Mask progresses, and in Momotaro a dog, monkey, bird, and human fight an ogre. also, Keiran was once weak but gets stronger as well.
The 4th Member of the Loyal 3 if it is Ghost Type has taken over Kieran’s mind and is making him go crazy and fed off the negative emotions that Kieran was feeling when he found out they were talking behind his back and the 4th member increased that emotion to make Kieran crazy with jealousy. that’s my best guess 🤷♂️
I have a theory about Terapagos and I don't think anyone has ever talked about it. What if Terapagos was originally from Kitakami, specifically the from the crystal pool. There's some why that might be the case.
#1: the crystals in the pool have the same hexagons as the ones in area zero and in Heath's scarlet/violet book
#2: the music at the pool has the same melody and choir just like area zero
#3: Mrs. Briar told us that the crystal pool has the same power as terastallization
#4: and before you get the item to fix Ogerpon's mask you and Caramine had to fight a wild Milotic so maybe it might hint that Terapagos is a water type (not sure yet)
I think there could a reason how Terapagos got to area zero, Terapagos was resting and relaxing at the crystal pool gathering terastal energy, the Loyal three at the time scared terapagos out of the pool and fled to area zero and stayed there till 200 years ago, when Heath and the research team went down to area zero, when they got there, Terapagos didn't want Heath there so Terapagos used all of its Terastal energy to transform into the crown form (that we saw in the latest indigo disk trailer with all the tera types) it was so powerful, that Heath passed out, Terapagos erased Heath's memories, and created a sketch of the equations using its mind, gave the sketch to Heath, when he woke up, he didn't remember drawing the sketch, but he said it's his own handwriting so this explains how he got his hands on the sketch it wasn't the dream theory or anything else, Terapagos created the sketch of the equations, not the dream theory (if you heard of it)
I can always rely on Hoops to spot the stuff I miss :D
Koraidon and Miraidon not getting a terra form is the biggest missed opportunity
The kid becoming a bad guy is not a hidden secret at all. That was so obvious from the start really. Even more so after he stole the mask. To me, that should not be in the video. Though, the hair foreshadowing his fall, is actually neat. As the colors could indeed be showing that he would go villain. Though, that could just have been a coincendence due to the scarlet vs violet thing someone else pointed out.
Seriously, dead people spotted Kieren going evil from their graves, that was how obvious it was. Pretty sure it is no secret to anyone.
Wow, I didn't notice these! It's crazy how easily the 4th pkm at Peachy's could slip from your eye. There's another foreshadow we could possibly draw from the connection between Kieran's hair and the Loyal Three. It is said that the toxic chain made the Loyal Three stronger and more beefed up than they used to be. Maybe this is foreshadowing that in Part 2, not only Kieran would get more antagonistic, but he'll also get a lot stronger. Interesting video!
Can't wait for the trio master of the Loyal Three, Terastal Trash Form Wormadam, to be revealed.
Plottwist: Koraidon and Miraidon are in permanent Tera state and are the tera form of Cyclizar.
If ther is a fourth member of the "loyal three " and it is ghost type, maybe it possessed Mr. Crybaby which explains why his mood changed and his fist releasing the other three.
Tera forms for the box legendaries should have happened in the base game, not after paying for two DLC
Speaking of the key art lanterns, the type icons even follow a set pattern (from left to right):
1. Grass (Ogrepon)
2. Fire (Hearthflame)
3. Water (Wellspring)
4. Rock (Cornerstone)
5. Poison (Loyal Three)
6. Fighting (Okidogi)
7. Psychic (Munkidori)
8. Fairy (Fezandipiti)
9. Ghost (mystery Pokemon)
and then the pattern restarts. This is easiest to see if you start with the right-side bottom row, then see how the pattern continues into right-side middle row, and finally how Ghost loops back to Grass in left-side top row.
As far as I can tell and saw, there are two antagonist in the DLC part 2,
Kieran(with probably the 4th member of the "Loyal" Three) and
Ms. Briar( idk about you guys but that lady seems very sus to me from her behavior, her desires, her design heck even her theme is sus).
If you notice before Kieran punches the Loyal Three’s statues his hand turns purple.. maybe they’re foreshadowing that the 4th ghost/poison member is controlling him, hence why he’s starts to act crazy towards the end… it would also explain why the loyal three woke up “out of nowhere”
These are all fascinating catches, I'm sure more secrets within Teal Mask will be revealed in the next DLC
Ok here me out,
The forth member of the loyal "three" is gengar. Think about it. Its a ghost poison type which would fit in with the idea and its a round boi. Its not pink but who cares when we have this much evidence?
It's not the same Shade it's Darker
I kinda believe that there will be more DLCs coming. Yellow and red 'stars' on the 'The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero' logo in my opinion are there on purpose. Also inside the school in the classrooms too much yellow color details on the wall posters. Let's say green star represent Ogrepon and blue one Terapagos. What do you think?
Nevertheless, upper right corner part resembles the lake, bottom left resembles the Blueberry academy logo. Two of them left.
Kieran is definitely going to get his own Toxic chain, with a 4th loyal Ace.
Am I the only one who thinks Keiran and Carmine look like Geeta? They have similar hair 'texture', and while Geeta doesn't have any under colour, she does have the spots, and they could have gotten the secondary colour (And eye colour) from their father. (Or are just very fashion forward and get their hair dyed snrk). While I'm unsure of where their father is, but if their mother is busy running the league in Paldea, it would explain why they live with their grandparents. I think this is going to my personal headcanon until I die unless the other half of the DLC says otherwise lol. As an added note, their mother being a champion (even if everyone IRL thinks she's weak sauce) would make sense why they're so talented at battling. Like Palmer and Barry kind of deal. Being a strong trainer seems to weirdly run through families. (Alder and Benga, Draydon and Drayton possibly, Flint and Buck, Lusamine and Lillie and Gladion, Giovanni and Silver, and Norman and May/Brendan, etc)
We just ignoring how he mistaked the dog monkey loyal threes chain for a third one
Wow... I never noticed those details! I'm impressed!
Dokutaro
The Lousy Three Master has codename Dokutaro
and this "part of figure" ur talking about in the video, can be found in files, and there's full image of Dokutaro
the shape at the end of each the loyal three's purple "chains" also matches this 4th member, maybe implying that the 4th pokemon is what gave them the toxic chains
I don't really think there is a fourth member of the loyal three, that could honestly just be leaves
That is clearly Okidogis fist in the picture durinf the storytelling, and the object in the shop is just a plushy of the toxic chain. The only slightest hint that there may be a fourth pokemon is in the way Kieran seemingly becomes possessed or filled with negative emotions, despite how kind and shy he first comes off as.
Based on how Kieran acts at the end of the DLC and also in the trailer for the Indigo Disk how your character gets shocked when they see who we believe may be the Champion of the BB League, I have a feeling we may be taking on Kieran there as the Champion... As for what Pokémon he'll have, he'll likely have his Dipplin's final form being his ace Pokémon as well.
I noticed these, actually. Great vid.
The fourth member will probably be the leader of the bunch and peach themed
Kieran is definitely possesed :0 it is a ghost type...
Similar to the blood moon ursaluna quest I think the new loyal three + Kieran will be a main side quest to get the new legendary. Main quest will deal with area zero
I love the idea of the last one being called Finandandy and being perhaps some kind of fish
Keiran's entire character arc is very much bothering me.
I had thought up of the idea from the chains altering the loyal 3's but didnt say much thinking it wouldn't gain much but good on silver to take it upon him 😀
I've got some faith because Game Freak has been doing really well with this in ScarVi, but I'm a little nervous about how Kieran will progress as a villain. While he does become antagonistic, it's important to note that the origin of his antagonism is his trauma, and that needs to be handled delicately. Kieran, like Arven and Penny, is a victim of abuse, and was traumatized when the first person he considered a friend betrayed him, and it's important to keep that in mind with his apparent descent into villainy. He can definitely be an antagonist, I'm just hoping that Game Freak doesn't accidentally handle it poorly.
I don't agree with the Kieran one, you seemed to have forgotten or not noticed the underside of Carmines hair is red. One has red hair and the other purple, or you could say one was Scarlet and the other Violet. I don't think theres any deeper meaning than that.
Yknow, another thing thing I noticed is that the new member of the loyal three looks like the logo of team Aqua when the Pokémon is upside down but it’s probably a coincidence.
What if Kieran *becomes* the fourth member of the loyal three? We've had kyurem white and black, ash Greninja, and ice rider and shadow rider Calyrex, just to name a few, so why not?
Sweet vid bro. That last one was definitely a nice notice!
Kieran at the end has a different hair style we can't see but we can clearly see it'll show the purple inside.
About the possible fourth pokemon from the loyal three. All loyal three have a somewhat similar shape in their toxic chains. The ends of those chains end in a circle with two parts under it.
Thank you. This is so fun. I didn't expect any of these secrets!
Maybe Kieran will get the new ghost/poison type legendary for himself in BlueBerry academy solidifying his power creep in his rising villain arc.
The “4th member of the loyal three” is the mythical Pokémon: Pecharunt
I'm wondering about ogerpon's old master, will he come back as a ghost Pokemon
Hmm, imagine if that 'plushie' thing we see at Peachies is actually a Pokemon and the secret fourth member of the Loyal Three itself, hidden in plain sight, just sleeping there...? Also, as you mentioned, one of the symbols is the crystal pool... what of the other three symbols? Perhaps they might each be hiding something maybe, (some may already be known)..?
I’m honestly surprised he didn’t mention it but- Some people have been able to get into the game files for that cutscene and get a much better view of the Pokémon! It matches the plush at the stand 100%
My big question is that only it’s head or is it really just that for its whole body! A little flying peach!
I thought that was just an artist's interpretation of the peach Pokémon
Regarding the 4th member of the Loyal Three, or Dokutaro as it has been called by leakers, I actually have contradicted a sort of investigation board about it, because man I am obsessed with leaked Pokémon!
I honestly felt like Kieran was possessed by the end of the dlc. So it makes sense if the last of the toxic chain Pokémon is ghost. Could be he’s possessed by the last one. 🤷♂️
One crazy secret is that almost all of sv pkm can be categorized as either a man a bird or dog, and even the loyal three reflect that since monkidori is the man, okifogi is the dog, and fezandipiti is the bird crazy right
Munkidori is the monkey. The man is Momotaro, someone not introduced yet.
@@GoinGreninja you didnt get the joke, btw he does look like a man tho since his feets are shaped like japanese sandals or how the heck all called
@@peppe_5 I see. I never looked at their feet before. Now I know.
@@GoinGreninja youre welcome the more you know 🌈⭐
On the note of the hinted fourth member of the Loyal Three.....there's also the signboards, which depict Ogerpon running from the Loyal Three....and there's another figure (resembling a trainer, but who knows?) with the Loyal Three. Like. Who could that be?
I'd like to point something out to everyone suggesting that Kieran is possessed by the peach ghost. After the player learns Ogerpon's true story and Kieran overhears, you go off to find him to track down the last sign... And where do you find him? At Peachy's shop, where the figure can be found.
I believe it's entirely possible that the peach ghost latched onto Kieran's negative emotions and sense of betrayal at Ogerpon's story being kept from him, and possessed him in this brief timeframe. From this point onward, Kieran's sweet self starts to deteriorate as the ghost takes further control, and has regained enough power to revive the Lousy Three by the time you meet him at the shrine, hence the purple glow some people have noticed when Kieran punches it.
It's just an observation, but who knows?
I named the loyal three in my copy:
Vick the okidogi
Boots the munkidori
And Chloe the fenzindipedi.
The 2 you can already guess, but Chloe was named after my toxic EX gf.
I’m working on getting a full shiny team for the dlc of all new teal mask pokemon
Why do y’all think that Ursaluna became so OP in the Teal Mask?
Partly because of the harsh nature of the Timeless Woods, a place that is clearly stated to not be Ursaluna's primary habitat, liking bogs and such and partly because it apparently became calm and sagely with decades of experience, with it using the spirit of the moon to attack and some such.
@@GoinGreninja interesting
The long life coming from drinking terastallized water [the crystal pool flows down from Oni Mountain into the Timeless Woods], a theory of BirdKeeperToby, feels like it has a bunch of merit to me - it's both wise [with the heightened lifespan], body and powers changed from the aforementioned crystal energies, and is a top predator due to being cut off from the rest of the main land.
It however is - probably - the only remaining wild Ursaluna left in the world, though.
IF there is a 4th member it's the leader. I don't know how it's displayed in other languages but in german all three are called "Lakai" pokemon which translates to "Lakay". So the 4th member should be the leader AND the one who gave them their poison accessories.
Say what you want about the graphics and framerate(which I’m not excusing by saying this), but pokemon seems to only be getting better and better when it comes to the story and gameplay. I absolutely LOVE Kieran, Ogerpon and Carmine’s characters and arcs throughout the dlc and can’t wait to see how it’s followed
I have a feeling they were stoatland unphezant and one of the simi's leaning towards simipour do to them both being blue meaning they are from unova also ghost could be representing polchagheist and sinescha but why wouldn't dragon be there for dipplin