Best review of the diesel st3 on UA-cam! It's nice to see someone giving the diesel version some love, it don't half get some stick on the st forums but I love mine.
I bought a 2016 Focus ST-3 diesel last month and I absolutely love it! Watched this review about 10 times before I decided to go ahead and get the diesel version, same spec as the car in the review but I have it in deep impact blue. Love it!
I had a mk 3.5 st3 petrol in tangerine scream before my rs. Your review has made me miss it. So comfortable and and very quick especially after the remap. It ate front tyres like you predicted. It had more kit than my rs, heated seats. Illuminated sill plates etc. I wish my rs rode as well as it did. It honestly felt nearly as quick, once the front wheels stopped spinning and dug in. Really miss the tangerine scream paint to. But I also love the nitrous blue. In my biased opinion they are the nicest to signature colours of any car brand. Was always a dream of mine to own an rs and now I have one. Excellent review by the way
Car Focused I have a st3 diesel fast enough for me great car plenty of pull and that torque something else all round top car great review honest as well
Had mine 6 months, you pretty much hit the nail on the head with this review. I do 22k miles a year but wanted something I could enjoy driving and well-specced. It ticks all the boxes for me! Makes no sense whatsoever unless you're doing big miles though. I'm sure the petrol is a more fun drive overall. It's refreshing though that even after owning a mk2 ST and an RS, you still found enjoyment in driving the diesel ST. Cheers
just bought a 2016 Focus ST Diesel, which was an ex demo car for a ford dealership, in deep impact blue. The fuel economy, performance and sheer driving pleasure it delivers is just fantastic. Though for a daily driver the 18" wheels would probably be a much better option. this car have exceeded my expectations by far for it's price range, always puts a smile on my face when i get into it and drive it, and for me that is priceless.
I bought mine second hand, was used as a dealer demo car for 1 year, so hopefully the worst depreciation is over, though i would hardly regret buying it brand new either, knowing it will depreciate harshly :)
I have a 2015 ST diesel and I love it £20 a year road tax and cheap to insure . I only get an average of 40 mpg I always de activate the auto stop start as I feel it no good for the engine. My car came with the 19 inch wheels ,now changed to 18s due to tram tracking and the stupid difference in recommended tyre pressures for them. 11psi difference when loaded! To anyone on the fence between petrol or diesel st I'd say this, yes we lose out on performance on the 5% spirited law breaking foot to the floor driving but petrol lose out on the economy for the other 95% of the time.
I’m getting one this week! Lovely cars, sporty looks, sporty handling, looks fantastic and great fuel economy! We currently have a Kia Sorento as a daily driver and the fuel economy is shocking!
Im picking up a 16 plate diesel st on Thursday, I test drove it and wow, knew this was one, cant wait, 1 thing that does worry me is repair Bill's, like turbo going. I wont be remapping mine as it's more than adequate for overtaking idiots doing 40 in a 60!
Mike h you will love it I have a race red certainly doesn’t hang around if you put you foot down if you put cruise control on at 60 mph you will get 60 plus mpg superb car enjoy
Another great review. I had an ST3 mk3 when they first appeared on the scene in 2012. Although mine was a petrol, I would agree with your comments as the chassis and general setup was the same. The facelift version that you were driving is an improvement on the earlier cars and now looks pretty sharp even compared to newer models by other manufacturers.
good reveiw again gary, like this diesel ST looks good......IM INTERESTED....we have decided to sell our house and move... :( which will mean selling my Focus RS... which i have had for 5 months now , only just over 2k miles...got a couple months left with RS , going to ford fest santo pod with it....my RS and our Black and Red edtion fiesta will be sold to make way for 1 share car....this ST diesel looks a good choice.....will not like telling people you have a STD ...lol..
yes gutted a bit, but thats life, still have a couple of months to injoy the RS.....as they say: better to have had than not to have had at all...ST diesel sounds a good trade off.......unsure about diesel v petrol......... i like the videos best of you just driving and chilling in the RS and just talking about RS stuff.....basic but good.... have a great day catch u again simon
just to add about the ST diesel , whats your thoughts on the colour tangerine screem(yellow /orange) lol....basic reviews are best its from the heart.....i like it normal guy and a working mans outlook.......perfect comment c u
This was really good mate. I’ve got the petrol version and honestly fuel economy isn’t great, everything else is perfect and my Dad absolutely loves my car, although he’s after a diesel. I’ll have to show him this and maybe he will get one too!
had a mk2 but hated the fuel consumption (otherwise great car). Driven a small 1.6 mk3 focus which was nippy (slow but i like the diesel torque). What doesnt get mentioned is the driveability, the low down torque is nice where you have to rev petrols a lot more. Tough choice, but I think i would test drive both :)
i come from the future the new ford focus st petrol- 280bhp focus st diesel- 190bhp note the petrol one is available with an all new 7 speed dct transmission also has 310lb ft !
Good review again mate looking forward to the review of the petrol st you should do a comparison video of the fiesta and focus st to see what you think. My personal opinion is the focus slightly better as it's the better all round car more comfort and more modern where the fiesta is the sharper of the two keep up the good work
Got the same car 135 top speed had more than that out of mine certainly a pretty quick car for diesel that torque is superb can’t fault mine just a pity the new shape doesn’t come close for lucks all round great car
I have an st3 diesel estate and it’s great apart from hard to control. Feels like it crabs under accelerating. It’s going in for first service on Thursday and has been in to ford twice already and they can’t fault it but definitely does not feel right. Have done 12500 in 6 months
Great review !!! Glad to finally see a good review of the diesel st, being a owner it gets annoying having such few videos!! Like you mentioned it's annoying how they run out of steam after 4K rpm, also mines a 16 plate and tax is £30 a year
andrew taylor look in to a Bluefin m8 I've got one for my diesel st3 and it pulls like a train, takes it to 221 hp and 490 Nm of torque and the best bit you can take the remap off yourself when putting the car in for a service.
Chris W I had to change insurer as the insurer I was with didn't offer cover for it being remapped and who I went to was £100 a year dearer, no biggie in my eyes for peace of mind.
Nice review, I've decided on buying a used one in Jan, purely based on the tax. It's such a bad system now, where there's zero incentive to buy new, when you can save £100 on tax buying one from before March 31st.
I have had my 2017 ST3 just over a year now. Great diesel. but un beknown to me it had been mapped already by previous owner and has 211bhp... fast. Love driving it, but this thing about £20 V.E.D is NOT true, I am paying now £145. Is that true with everyone else too?
Better space in the rear, those huge Recaro's are nice to sit in but really limit rear space. Getting late 50's on the motorway. TBH i would have taken either lol
I love mine, i do 25k + KM per Year and i wanted an economic and fun Car. Design is amazing and has allot potential, for example the Golf GTD is so boring .
I realise that nobody sane ever paid list price for a Ford, but ouch, that's a lot of money when you consider the Focus RS was £30k on launch, before Brexit exchange rate issues started. I suspect this car will depreciate like a stone too, so keep an eye out for ex-company and PCP hire/rental ones in 18 months or so. You can get (for example, other models are obviously out there ) a 2016 Audi S3 300ps quattro for £25k now, which leaves £3k for petrol, which at 30mpg would give you 45,000 miles of motoring before the diesel is more economical.
Another great video 👍🏼 Bit of a weirded question but can you recommend something to clean chrome exhaust tips. I remember from when you had your fiesta ST you kept them clean but can't remember what you used.
I've found that just using a sponge and car shampoo weekly to clean exhaust tips saves you going to town on having to use expensive products and compounds.
Great vid as always not a bad little motor m8 I like your comment might get my wife to get one !! I guess so you can use it from time to time to have a break from the rs hard ride lol
They have a Chevy cruze diesel in USA . Wish we had this focus for sale here . The focus we do have is not near as good as the German made one you have .
i have a 2016 st2 Diesel , and i can confirm as standard it does over 141mph (Track Day) but yeah there amazing i still feal they could of had more hp out the factory 0-60 could be a bit quicker
Great review, really enjoyed it. Do you know someone who works at the dealer who is willing to give you interesting cars to play with for the day? My brother works at my local dealership ( of which I am a loyal customer ) and he has had the chance of the odd wee shot of a Mustang or Focus RS for an hour or so but I couldn't see them lending me one for the day. In all fairness I have never had the balls to ask and most of the videos I have made are pretty dire with a couple of exceptions. Keep up the good work.
Flash HD, Gordon Shedden fan? I wouldn't say I was bored of making the videos. The filming is the easy bit but the uploading and editing is really time consuming and I have a lot of other stuff going on in my life recently which has taken priority. I have made a few decent videos ( considering the basic equipment I am using ) and a few videos which I will admit even I think are a bit shite so I would prefer to wait and make fewer decent videos instead of lots of shit ones. The other annoying thing about putting yourself out there on UA-cam are the hatters, the people who obviously get a kick out of leaving nasty and sometimes hurtful comments on a video that you have spent hours and hours working on despite how shit it is. I know I should just ignore them but I find it difficult. I will probably make more in the future when I have more content of interest and the time to do it. I have a few ideas so watch this space.
Have you driven the MK3 ST petrol? I need to know what they are both like to drive and a comparison would be great! Great review man, keep them coming!
Car Focused aww man I've just been looking at mountune upgrades and I bet they are an epic addition! How could you possibly turn it down! I'll wait eagerly for the notification then man! Great work!
Car Focused even Yeah due to medical condition have to been an Auto looking at upgrading nexst from a 1.6 Fiesta I'm torn Between the diesel St or a seat leon fr 1.8 petrol think the St looks more special.
Birmingham racing i bought an st diesel a month ago and test drove gtd and leon fr tbh i prefer the st interior and drive but gtd looks soooo nice but as a driving experience and not just to look at i preferred the st 🖒🖒
Best review of the diesel st3 on UA-cam! It's nice to see someone giving the diesel version some love, it don't half get some stick on the st forums but I love mine.
yf1001 Iv had ours since 2016, it’s had a stage 2 step up and now sings to 250ish bhp it’s a completely different car
Russell Donaldson just got mine still running stock im already impressed i would love to stage 1 it maybe what would i need and how much
I bought a 2016 Focus ST-3 diesel last month and I absolutely love it! Watched this review about 10 times before I decided to go ahead and get the diesel version, same spec as the car in the review but I have it in deep impact blue. Love it!
I had a mk 3.5 st3 petrol in tangerine scream before my rs. Your review has made me miss it. So comfortable and and very quick especially after the remap. It ate front tyres like you predicted. It had more kit than my rs, heated seats. Illuminated sill plates etc. I wish my rs rode as well as it did. It honestly felt nearly as quick, once the front wheels stopped spinning and dug in. Really miss the tangerine scream paint to. But I also love the nitrous blue. In my biased opinion they are the nicest to signature colours of any car brand. Was always a dream of mine to own an rs and now I have one. Excellent review by the way
Car Focused I have a st3 diesel fast enough for me great car plenty of pull and that torque something else all round top car great review honest as well
Had mine 6 months, you pretty much hit the nail on the head with this review. I do 22k miles a year but wanted something I could enjoy driving and well-specced. It ticks all the boxes for me!
Makes no sense whatsoever unless you're doing big miles though. I'm sure the petrol is a more fun drive overall.
It's refreshing though that even after owning a mk2 ST and an RS, you still found enjoyment in driving the diesel ST.
Cheers
Picked mine up today and I absolutely love my '17 St Diesel
just bought a 2016 Focus ST Diesel, which was an ex demo car for a ford dealership, in deep impact blue. The fuel economy, performance and sheer driving pleasure it delivers is just fantastic. Though for a daily driver the 18" wheels would probably be a much better option.
this car have exceeded my expectations by far for it's price range, always puts a smile on my face when i get into it and drive it, and for me that is priceless.
I bought mine second hand, was used as a dealer demo car for 1 year, so hopefully the worst depreciation is over, though i would hardly regret buying it brand new either, knowing it will depreciate harshly :)
I have a 2015 ST diesel and I love it £20 a year road tax and cheap to insure . I only get an average of 40 mpg I always de activate the auto stop start as I feel it no good for the engine. My car came with the 19 inch wheels ,now changed to 18s due to tram tracking and the stupid difference in recommended tyre pressures for them. 11psi difference when loaded! To anyone on the fence between petrol or diesel st I'd say this, yes we lose out on performance on the 5% spirited law breaking foot to the floor driving but petrol lose out on the economy for the other 95% of the time.
do you think they are both fun to drive? diesel and petrol?
I’ve had my ST for 5 days and I love it. Best car I’ve owned. Great on fuel economy and looks fantastic.
What sort of mileage are you getting out of it?
I think the diesel version in the st is good n plenty of torque if I didn't have my RS I would have one of these for sure. Good test as usual 👍
I’m getting one this week! Lovely cars, sporty looks, sporty handling, looks fantastic and great fuel economy! We currently have a Kia Sorento as a daily driver and the fuel economy is shocking!
How is it going with the ST ?? I,m getting an ST3 on a 16 plate this week .
Best thing about the handling of this car is the lift off oversteer, the back comes round very nicely and it’s easy to control
I just got a 65 plate same spec and colour and i love it
Great video/review.i ordered new one 17 weeks ago and it's drove me mad waiting,I pick it up on Thursday.cant wait
Haha can't lie,I've watched nearly every video.all I get is missed saying "are you watching more focus ST videos s"
Im picking up a 16 plate diesel st on Thursday, I test drove it and wow, knew this was one, cant wait, 1 thing that does worry me is repair Bill's, like turbo going.
I wont be remapping mine as it's more than adequate for overtaking idiots doing 40 in a 60!
Mike h you will love it I have a race red certainly doesn’t hang around if you put you foot down if you put cruise control on at 60 mph you will get 60 plus mpg superb car enjoy
Thanks for directing me over to the channel m8 and the review is awesome.
Another great review.
I had an ST3 mk3 when they first appeared on the scene in 2012.
Although mine was a petrol, I would agree with your comments as the chassis and general setup was the same.
The facelift version that you were driving is an improvement on the earlier cars and now looks pretty sharp even compared to newer models by other manufacturers.
Loving my STD3 in black after 1Month of ownership same spec as your loan car👌🏻
Same mate love it
paul evans i wouldn’t be loving having an std , mabey try protecting next time
good reveiw again gary, like this diesel ST looks good......IM INTERESTED....we have decided to sell our house and move... :( which will mean selling my Focus RS... which i have had for 5 months now , only just over 2k miles...got a couple months left with RS , going to ford fest santo pod with it....my RS and our Black and Red edtion fiesta will be sold to make way for 1 share car....this ST diesel looks a good choice.....will not like telling people you have a STD ...lol..
yes gutted a bit, but thats life, still have a couple of months to injoy the RS.....as they say: better to have had than not to have had at all...ST diesel sounds a good trade off.......unsure about diesel v petrol......... i like the videos best of you just driving and chilling in the RS and just talking about RS stuff.....basic but good....
have a great day
catch u again
simon
just to add about the ST diesel , whats your thoughts on the colour tangerine screem(yellow /orange) lol....basic reviews are best its from the heart.....i like it normal guy and a working mans outlook.......perfect comment
c u
yeh similar situation, looking for eco and performance
This was really good mate. I’ve got the petrol version and honestly fuel economy isn’t great, everything else is perfect and my Dad absolutely loves my car, although he’s after a diesel. I’ll have to show him this and maybe he will get one too!
Good review, nice photography, and decent road. Looks fun.
Thank you Peter 😃
Just waiting on mine being delivered, thanks very much for a great review
You can also tune the diesel a bit too
Brilliant video Gary :-) I was after a honest opinion on the St and you gave it:-) my friend has 1 but not had ago:-) cheers steve
had a mk2 but hated the fuel consumption (otherwise great car). Driven a small 1.6 mk3 focus which was nippy (slow but i like the diesel torque). What doesnt get mentioned is the driveability, the low down torque is nice where you have to rev petrols a lot more. Tough choice, but I think i would test drive both :)
I now own this car that's being reviewed and I love it, just wish he hadn't driven that hard lol.
i come from the future the new ford focus st petrol- 280bhp
focus st diesel- 190bhp
note the petrol one is available with an all new 7 speed dct transmission
also has 310lb ft !
Good review again mate looking forward to the review of the petrol st you should do a comparison video of the fiesta and focus st to see what you think. My personal opinion is the focus slightly better as it's the better all round car more comfort and more modern where the fiesta is the sharper of the two keep up the good work
Still not sure in 2022 should get petrol or diesel
Very good as usual!
Got the same car 135 top speed had more than that out of mine certainly a pretty quick car for diesel that torque is superb can’t fault mine just a pity the new shape doesn’t come close for lucks all round great car
I have an st3 diesel estate and it’s great apart from hard to control. Feels like it crabs under accelerating. It’s going in for first service on Thursday and has been in to ford twice already and they can’t fault it but definitely does not feel right. Have done 12500 in 6 months
Great review !!! Glad to finally see a good review of the diesel st, being a owner it gets annoying having such few videos!! Like you mentioned it's annoying how they run out of steam after 4K rpm, also mines a 16 plate and tax is £30 a year
andrew taylor look in to a Bluefin m8 I've got one for my diesel st3 and it pulls like a train, takes it to 221 hp and 490 Nm of torque and the best bit you can take the remap off yourself when putting the car in for a service.
yf1001 did your insurance increase with the remap?
Chris W I had to change insurer as the insurer I was with didn't offer cover for it being remapped and who I went to was £100 a year dearer, no biggie in my eyes for peace of mind.
I’m interested in stage 1 nicely rounds the numbers off is puma speed a good choice or is there better
deyon100 pumaspeed 1r best map out there atm
@3:23 does it have so much boost!! around 2 bar!! No wonder it has 400nm of torque 👍😎
I’m thinking of getting one, this review is so helpful, thx sm 🔥🔥
Ps big ford fan 🙋🏽♂️
Nice review, I've decided on buying a used one in Jan, purely based on the tax. It's such a bad system now, where there's zero incentive to buy new, when you can save £100 on tax buying one from before March 31st.
Get it mapped...over 200ps...fun fun fun..😄
@@antares8341 don't use one of them ever
@@bones6978 May be Bluefin?
@@polzka797 no they're not very good either, better off going with aet or Revo.
I had mine remapped by pumaspeeds getting 270bhp now and 525nm
Alphabetti Spaghetti Serious? Iv got MK3 st 2 Diesel..love it
Another great review mate. Convinced the missus yet?
I have had my 2017 ST3 just over a year now. Great diesel. but un beknown to me it had been mapped already by previous owner and has 211bhp... fast. Love driving it, but this thing about £20 V.E.D is NOT true, I am paying now £145. Is that true with everyone else too?
Thanks for letting me know mate.
A 16 ...66....plate diesel are 20£ tax anything after that is 140£
I've got a 62plate mk 3 focus Titanium 1.6 diesel ...I love it
Great review mate :)
Drove this and a Leon Fr 184. I have to say the ST was nice but the FR rode better and tbh went better, i purchased the FR and have no regrets
Better space in the rear, those huge Recaro's are nice to sit in but really limit rear space. Getting late 50's on the motorway. TBH i would have taken either lol
Great review tho
Would you ever consider trying out other hot hatches such as the Astra vxr
I love mine, i do 25k + KM per Year and i wanted an economic and fun Car. Design is amazing and has allot potential, for example the Golf GTD is so boring .
remap the diesel up to stage 1 to make it a fair comparison, the diesel would every time in driving experience in my book
so with 279 bhp and 580nm that's stage 3 from Pumaspeed, I'm getting 46 mpg and 560 miles on a full tank, that's with no motorway driving at all.
So a year on, no problems at all, currently on 48.9 mpg around town = 620 miles on a full tank.
@Hellndegenerates you've just made my mind up to go with pumaspeed.. is that with the hybrid turbo?
I realise that nobody sane ever paid list price for a Ford, but ouch, that's a lot of money when you consider the Focus RS was £30k on launch, before Brexit exchange rate issues started. I suspect this car will depreciate like a stone too, so keep an eye out for ex-company and PCP hire/rental ones in 18 months or so. You can get (for example, other models are obviously out there ) a 2016 Audi S3 300ps quattro for £25k now, which leaves £3k for petrol, which at 30mpg would give you 45,000 miles of motoring before the diesel is more economical.
Zadster I bought mine last year and I got it for £24k (ST3 with plenty of toys). No one is ever going to pay list. 😀
Another great video 👍🏼
Bit of a weirded question but can you recommend something to clean chrome exhaust tips. I remember from when you had your fiesta ST you kept them clean but can't remember what you used.
Weird*
Car Focused thankyou. Went and got some took abit of work but they look like new again 👍🏼
I've found that just using a sponge and car shampoo weekly to clean exhaust tips saves you going to town on having to use expensive products and compounds.
Love my St. Would love to ‘upgrade’ to the RS, but apparently, the difference isnt alot. Not £20K alot anyway.
Is 1.5 tdci a good engine I just got titanium x 65 plate
This is quicker by 2 seconds from 50-70 than the petrol one.
Great vid as always not a bad little motor m8 I like your comment might get my wife to get one !! I guess so you can use it from time to time to have a break from the rs hard ride lol
They have a Chevy cruze diesel in USA . Wish we had this focus for sale here . The focus we do have is not near as good as the German made one you have .
i have a 2016 st2 Diesel , and i can confirm as standard it does over 141mph (Track Day) but yeah there amazing i still feal they could of had more hp out the factory 0-60 could be a bit quicker
ps the tax on the 2016 model is way better at £20 a year :)
Great review, really enjoyed it. Do you know someone who works at the dealer who is willing to give you interesting cars to play with for the day? My brother works at my local dealership ( of which I am a loyal customer ) and he has had the chance of the odd wee shot of a Mustang or Focus RS for an hour or so but I couldn't see them lending me one for the day. In all fairness I have never had the balls to ask and most of the videos I have made are pretty dire with a couple of exceptions. Keep up the good work.
Darave the average joe , hi are you bored of making RS videos
That's pretty cool. It's really good that they are willing to do that.
Flash HD, Gordon Shedden fan? I wouldn't say I was bored of making the videos. The filming is the easy bit but the uploading and editing is really time consuming and I have a lot of other stuff going on in my life recently which has taken priority. I have made a few decent videos ( considering the basic equipment I am using ) and a few videos which I will admit even I think are a bit shite so I would prefer to wait and make fewer decent videos instead of lots of shit ones. The other annoying thing about putting yourself out there on UA-cam are the hatters, the people who obviously get a kick out of leaving nasty and sometimes hurtful comments on a video that you have spent hours and hours working on despite how shit it is. I know I should just ignore them but I find it difficult. I will probably make more in the future when I have more content of interest and the time to do it. I have a few ideas so watch this space.
darave the average joe, i get you about the hatters, loved the video's about RS V ST ...anyhow thanks for the update, simon(flash HD)
Still loving mine if stock ain’t enough just stage 1 r Puma speed gets u 235bhp with 490nm torque
I've got the stage 3 278bhp and 580 nm
How many liters of diesel does it take on 100km?
About 6.5l/100km
Have you driven the MK3 ST petrol? I need to know what they are both like to drive and a comparison would be great!
Great review man, keep them coming!
Car Focused aww man I've just been looking at mountune upgrades and I bet they are an epic addition! How could you possibly turn it down!
I'll wait eagerly for the notification then man! Great work!
So Not much difference to the titanium X tdci 163 bhp with a 0. To 60 of 8.3 good to no
nice review, keep up:)
64 plate £20 tax 50mpg 135mph top 8.0-to 60 bought at 38,000 miles now 88,000 no issues FORD RELIABILATY
Good review 👌 looking at maybe getting one nexst year but the automatic PowerShift say it can do 60 in 7.7 🤔
Car Focused even Yeah due to medical condition have to been an Auto looking at upgrading nexst from a 1.6 Fiesta I'm torn Between the diesel St or a seat leon fr 1.8 petrol think the St looks more special.
I would prefer the golf gtd. Same power won't be as good around the bends but much nicer interior
Car Focused not sure on the price but personally love them I'm a big golf fan in general
Car Focused they do tend to hold value well
Birmingham racing i bought an st diesel a month ago and test drove gtd and leon fr tbh i prefer the st interior and drive but gtd looks soooo nice but as a driving experience and not just to look at i preferred the st 🖒🖒
boring and ugliest interier ever. Have you seen how ugly your checkered seats are? They can't even afford better than recaro lol
To think that a fiesta st180 is over a second quicker in a 0-60 stock 🤯
Thanks
It's 20 quit for tax per year
I’m positive it’s £20 a year tax
£20 tax actually 👍🏼
First thing you wanna do once you get it is to remap it
£140 tax for first year then £140 every year after 😁😁😁😄😄😄...so it's £140 every year then lol....great review otherwise 👍🏼👍🏼
I will stick to my GTD
Although at least the calipers get painted on the ford! Not standard on a GTD unfortunately
Me too
It’s £20 tax for the year
buy the benzin for your wife not the diesel...thats more fun to drive,
Just a shame it's 70hp down on the petrol version
Alex Harrod yeah but that torque though
Yes but it's way up on MPG. You can remap those 70hp if you really need to.
STD is a joke. If you are going to get an ST at least get a proper one and not some slow ass crap like this haha