VW Golf GTD vs Ford Focus ST3 Diesel - Diesel Hot Hatch Battle!
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- The Golf GTD takes on the Ford Focus St-3 Diesel in a battle that will see one come out on top as the best Diesel hot hatch around.
Both the VW range of Golfs and the Ford range of STs are well known for looking nice, going fast and above all being known as a HOT HATCH! However, the Diesels offer you economy and value for money.
Trade Price Cars have the Focus ST-3 and the GTD in stock and we had to test them as they are both similar in terms of 0-60mph, mpg, 2.0 litre Diesel engines, 183 to 181 bhp.
See who wins the acceleration test, and all round car review and road test.
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Slightly biased being a GTD owner, but the Golf is a much more solid car overall with a quality build and more premium legacy. Anyone should be happy with either but I genuinely do love my MK7
Same, I have a 2015 gtd. Love it, only complaint is it's a bit rough on poor roads which we have plenty of :/
looking to buy a gtd but having doubts cause I have always driving (to this day and still) high hp gas cars like the old s6 4.2 v8, e39 m5, tuned audi tt 3.2vr6, all fast cars, I had couple of diesels and still have one bmw e39 530d tuned 252hp and 600nm so I know how a diesel feels like, just scared even when tuned stage 2 the gtd will be too slow or isnt it? Well it doesnt have to be fast maybe or that fast but feel like it tho at least if that makes sense.
I nearly bought a GTD recently but opted for a 330D instead, however, there is no fucking way I would pick that Ford over the Golf, ever.The interior quality alone is miles ahead.
Got A3 quattro 220hp after Focus 105hp. Audi (and MQB overall) has shity suspension (mine got 2uc "sport")- no comfort, no handling. Seats are just awful after Focus. Claustrophobic feeling inside the car. VW is a disaster after Ford. The only advantage is acceleration.
Totally agree miles better build quality compared to the Ford plus engine wise the golf is miles better.
I own a ST3 diesel and it turns heads much more than that boring Euro box.
ST3 overall is a much better car in my opinion.
And that’s what it is - an opinion, and certainly not FACT as you make it sound.
The ST3 is a clear winner and overall a much nicer looking car especially in Deep Impact Blue
“Eurobox” 😂😂😂 if you live in the UK your focus is a eurobox aswell because the UK model is German
Wanker
Someone didn't put the gtd in sport mode, makes the steering heavier and more direct
Agreed [very happy GTD owner]
I own a gtd and I’m so glad a chose it. £20 road tax and £330 a year for the insurance! And it’s quick! (soon to be quicker once I’ve had it remapped next week) Complete package in my opinion
Your insurance won't be £330 once it's remapped!
@@dopiaza2006 yeah it will
dopiaza2006 whos telling the insurance?
Getting one as my next car potentially.
Having owned both id say the interior quality of materials is better in the golf but the focus handles better and I find the seating position better but each to their own
No, the GTD is better at handling
Love my gtd. White is more a gti colour imo, black or the dark grey suits a gtd far more
Owned both. GTD is the one to go for! Great car all round!
Why do people buy electric seats? You get in the car set the position and you never move it? Why have something else that can fail
i got both of them, and i prefer the ST, much better feeling of sportiness and better handling, and they dont look like my grandfathers car. just my 2 cents
I'm fetching a MK7.5 GTD come December. Mark my words.🙏🏽
Still on it? I got mine 2 months ago, brilliant car!
You cannot compère the standard GTD with no extras to the st3
Got a Golf R but out of these 2 i'd take the ST
I've got a pumaspeed stage 3, 279 bhp and 580nm, with H&R springs the handling is amazing.
The ford looks sporty than the golf ? Maybe I’m blind
are u serious bro?
Lol pff go sleep bro
VW looks dated and bland
Seat would be more comfortable if you sat in it properly
do not own either of it, test drove both as I once consider either GTD or ST-3 diesel. VW is more comfortable and better design inside but would never call VW design premium, neither are very sporty but very punchy even at low rev, perfect daily drive. Personally found the ST better looking, Golf is abit dull and lack of character, which is also represent by how they drive. Golf is softer but refine, take you from A to B, get the job done but not the extra mile. Focus feel more engaging but raw. They are both good car for daily drive, I would pick the ST if I have to as I found it more character and fun
Having owned both you have summed this up perfectly had a gtd for 8 months as a work car , changed job and bought the focus and still have it 2 years later no issues at all in 50k miles
Love diesel cars! The best engine is diesel
Unless your EGR valve and DPF give you headaches.
@@265justy never!! i have a jetta tdi 2.0 with over 500.000 kilometers, I change the clutch and no more...
@@nicolasp7395 German cars are overrated buckets off troublesome shit..Japanese cars are far superior in every way and VWs dont come near brands like Toyota , Honda and Mazda for reliability.iEspecially the VW TDIs from 09 up. The 1.9s were the best off the VWs ..the 1.6 and 2.0s are pure crap.
@@265justy German cars are not that reliable like back then thats true but they have better performance then japanese cars.
@@leo.r9253 it depends on what cars you compare.
GTD
Have you selected the sport mode to get the stiffer handling?? First thing i do out of town.
The difference between these 2 cars is like the difference between a donkey & a horse.. Golf is the horse
I will agree. I have a Jaguar X Type diesel which was once compared with the BMW 320d in its day. Reviewers said at the time "Both 150bhp both the same" nope... 2.2 Jaguars not like the 320d at all. 320d was a lot better quality and stronger and capable of sustaining high speeds. Jaguar X Type drove like a typical 1990's Ford. Much better comfortable plodder at lower speeds then a BMW 3 series. More comfortable to drive and a much better low speed donkey then a BMW. Ford built Jags 'Can' go fast as in they can do it ocassionally but they really don't like that at all. German definately engineering wins on the horse bit. Ford does the donkey work better.
The only reason you buy the Ford is because you can't afford the vw
Or because your not keen on how bland the golf looks. Or the lack of choice on seats as most come with that awful tartan esc cloth you see on screen 😂 I’m currently in the market for a new car the golf gtd / Leon fr/ a3 / focus st/ 320d are all choices but feel like they all have trade offs. The golf has the worst seats and arguably the most boring to look at. The focus is slower and with the monster dash feels smaller inside, the Leon’s a bit of a fugly from the back and the a3 is hard to find used in any kind of decent spec as most people could only afford the pov spec versions me included it looks like haha 🤦🏻♂️ one mates got the st3 and another has the gtd and my aunt has the Leon fr cr they’re all decent but can’t help but think the a3 when it’s s line with leather seems a step above them
Ford's styling looks dated about 6 months after they release a car. Golfs had looked the same for 10-15 years up until the Mk8 and they still look modern.
the st is better in my opinion
I have a Focus ST- 2 petrol 17plate, A Lady at work just bought a 66plate golf 1.4 Tsi se. The car feels small , and i honestly cannot for the life of me see what is Nice about a Golf ? May be because it’s not a gt i or e or d but the plastics feel NASTY !! I wouldn’t swap my ST for a golf even if they are faster. Legally we can only do 70mph which either will do all day long .
Sorry I wouldn't bother with a Ford diesel engine they are woeful.
Love my Golf mk7.5 gtd. Far better than a plain looking & unexciting Focus
U can't say the ford is plain,it's the other way round buddy
So you used a basic entry level gtd and compared it to a top spec focus.... Do you see the problem here? I'm bias though I have a gtd. Brilliant cars.
Yet they cost the same
Surely there is a better interior on the Ford ST . Can't beat Recaro .
Sorry I am a ford man .
Gtd interior is the same as GTI just different colours . Your lack of knowledge is painfully obvious..
ST looks the best
This guy is terrible at car reviews!
Sports car my Audi A3 1.9tdi is doing 8sec to 60mph hmmmm year 2009 mapped to 145bhp only so Audi all way long
GTD all day
Golf all day long
Chequered seats are so last century baby.
Gtd all day with a stage 1 remap
Much was ur remap ? Chocking to get it done on my gtd but paranoid incase it does something bad to my car
XboxKenny1992 204 hp and 311lb/ft can definitely feel the power and about £339
Go with phantom tuning.
Mine went to 230hp. So much quicker than before the remap!
Its só good, but só good, it needs a remap... 😂😂😂
@@hugoribeiro1642 so good with the remap, Hugo
My only question is why would you choose the ford Diesel engine, no way its more refined or reliable as the vw
No opinion on either, but VW diesel emissions scandal. What else is VW hiding from you?
@@duratorque who cares, their cars are rocksolid man! Golf 8 sucks though.
The 2015 PSA ford t DCI will out live a vw
In Britain Fords make great mules. They are fairly reliable, arguably quite good, drive quite well, and do the job very well but I am talking about dealing with the UK here. They are perfect all-round cars for British soil and I won't argue that. But build quality, speed, and performance they are rubbish really. Compared to the competition Ford fall foul in this area and they always did. Never as good in a straight line as a German equivalent and not as good at sustaining high speed. Trouble is Ford always put steering and going around corners better than brakes. Give Ford their due they did the little things that matter like extra overboost on a turbo, low short gearing, and go kart steering unlike Germans which is great engineering if you live in the UK. But rubbish if you plan to do high speeds with it.
This video makes me appreciate my Golf R 300 DSG much more 👍🏻. I don't understand how we can call a focus St 185 tdci a sports car 0-60 8.1 seconds. An A class A220d can do a 0-60 in 7.6 seconds so is that also classed as a sports car 😂
I currently own a st diesel focus and can agree its a good car but definitely wouldnt say i drive a sports car 🤣
Stage 3 at pumaspeed is 280 bhp 650 nm, 6 seconds to 60, ide be happy enough.
That Ford is rotten! 🍅
i have focus st3 diesel and i would never take a golf gtd over it they look ehit and standard a mean new they are much more pricey
C e the gtd is more expensive because every part of your focus is built by the lowest bidder......
or a person from Belgium.
Vw.... German engineering. Enough said
Upa RANGERS!
only bad thing about the GTD is you get those dogshit seats, no choice of leather, I and many other don't want the check pattern.
Yeah but the golf doesn’t even have a front heated windscreen FAIL 😏
Tdi all the way!
1 girico vs 1cavalo
Focus is better by a country mile ,golf would probably break down
Masted 2323 what planet you on sweet cheeks?
😂 you mad? German cars are probably the best engineered cars
@@Dshaw23 Nó. Best engineered cars are Japanese. The Mazda 3, Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla are far superior in terms off reliability than these 2..
VW all day long 😆
For style and looks...the Mazda 3 is miles ahead off both..Focus and Golfs are just common and boring.
Ergh don't get a Mazda I owned a Mazda 2 and a Mazda 3 2016 models for 4 years, they both had break issues, sound like tin cans on the road (awful levels of road noise), the engine will last forever with the right servicing but like all Japanese cars it will fall apart around you, I liked the features in the Mazda but the system played up from day one in both, sporadically rebooting the centre console while driving for no reason, had them looked at by Mazda 4 times and still never got fixed, air con broke in the 2 after 6 months from new, and the start stop was extremely abysmal from day one.
69 GTD 7.5 my new work horse much much higher quality while driving, very low road noise, more comfortable while driving but as mine is sitting on the 18's with wide Pirelli tyres you do feel the bumps, no random reboots on the centre console, much better range tank.(Dislike the start/stop but who doesn't in any car) many more safety features, better adaptive cruise control, so much quicker off the line and has the power there when you need it, 7 speed DSG is the best version to get, nothing like sitting on the motorway in 7th low revs just watching as the MPG goes up and up.
Ford st looks sporty ? 😂what a funny joke ! Lol , Pay few hundred quid to get elect seat or leather 🤦♂️
It's okay, your poor
Focus st wins by mile end of video
GTD
I owned a 2016 gtd for afew months it’s a nice car when it’s working, mine spent nearly 2 months sat in VW while they tried to fix a electric fault with the handbrake 3 times and once for a leaking sun roof. Ended up selling it and got a 330d 12 months later not one issue and weirdly the 330d does better mpg the the DSG golf?.
330d shit box manual hand brake in a 30k car 🤣🤣🤣
@@jimgoose4877 🤣🤣🤣 you bad melt🤣🤣, give me a manual handbrake over a leccy one that’s broke all the time🤣. And the 330d is solid all rounder, if it’s a shitbox then please give me your review of the golf😳
Simple Jimmy likes his silly gimmicks by the sounds of it
@@thatsjustme1990 😂😂😂 my little comment rattled you. Soft as shite.
@@jimgoose4877 not really simple Jimmy 🤣 as I no longer own the BMW. Regardless I stand by my comment, so can you now review the golf for me?.
If your one of them hillbilly VAG stans just say!, il let you off👍
If you're into rattles and cheap plastics the ST will be right up your alley the build quality between the two is day and night
Fords normally more fun to drive then VWS