Terminator Zero Trailer Discussion, Reaction & Plot Speculation - Val Verde Broadcasting
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
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Summary
Terminator Zero is an animated series for Netflix based on the Terminator franchise. It is set in 1997, two days before Judgment Day, and includes all the films in continuity. The series follows a person in Japan developing an AI, and Skynet sends a Terminator back to stop him. The series aims to capture the essence of the first Terminator film, with a focus on the unrelenting serial killer aspect. The animation style leans into the first movie's aesthetic, creating a strong visual identity. The conversation also touches on the importance of maintaining the abstract and mythical elements of the Terminator franchise.
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Terminator Zero, animated series, Netflix, Terminator franchise, continuity, Judgment Day, AI, Skynet, Terminator, first movie, animation style, visual identity, abstract, mythical
Takeaways
Terminator Zero is an animated series set in 1997, two days before Judgment Day, and includes all the films in continuity.
The series focuses on a person in Japan developing an AI and a Terminator sent back to stop him.
The series aims to capture the essence of the first Terminator film, emphasizing the unrelenting serial killer aspect.
The animation style leans into the visual identity of the first movie, with a noir-like atmosphere.
Sound Bites
"Terminator Zero includes all the films in continuity."
"Terminator Zero captures the essence of the first film as a stalk and slash horror film."
"Terminator Zero has a strong visual identity, reminiscent of the first movie."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Terminator Zero
01:27 Including All Films in Continuity
06:47 The Visual Identity of Terminator Zero
09:38 Maintaining the Abstract and Mythical Elements
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I'm James Cameron I saw the trailer and I start to see things I recognise
Arnie did something similar for Salvation only to later admit he didn't like the film but was trying to help out. I get why they go after endorsements [genuine or not] given the negative publicity which occurred when author of First Blood David Morell ripped 'Last Blood' to pieces on twitter on opening weekend!
Terminator: The First Terminator is still best Terminator, but I'd still love to see the Subway sketch be a real thing...
Oh my word, that was an amazing bit of commentary.
"A Cotes des Rhones Villages."
"It's just what you see, pal." 😂
Hahaha I forgot about that.. ah the good ol' days
The Lobster Thermidor.
Most definitely, it would be great to see that sketch and "Walken with Dinosaurs" brought to life.
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What a fantastically refreshing comment! Thank you and welcome 😊🙏 - DC
Val Verde return and its a Terminator Video... This is such a W
I miss Jackson’s impromptu gaming streams welcome back guys
Indeed, looking forward to part 5 of the Alien Isolation playthrough saga.
Great to see you guys back again. Enjoyed your discussion on physical media
Marvellous to see you guys back, and similar reactions to me on Terminator Zero (although I can't say I have Duncan's overall level of T-Fatigue just yet)!
Also: I'm a video editor for a living (mostly doc and short form/ads) and it really warms my heart to hear someone waxing lyrical about how great the editing in T1 (sorry: The Terminator...) is. Fellow editors regard me as some sort of crazed fanboy when I say it's got one of my favourite edits, but as a film it manages to accomplish the very challenging balancing act of having a great overall pace and structure in the edit as well as really great minute-to-minute editing (not to mention sly visual flourishes and just a great tempo). That build-up in Tech-Noir in particcular is something I'd love to show students of the craft, and it still makes me feel tense to this day.
It does also help that I'm a crazed fanboy though.
Keep up the videos! And remember, more inane, terrible Terminator content being sent from the future of Hollywood to the present day to destroy humanities hopes of a decent industry, the more videos you're able to make! Hooray?
Glad you guys are back, and you're completely correct about some things should be left to the imagination. Vader's back story was something that everybody wanted to see... until they did. The future war against Skynet should be glimpsed but not turned into a film. We already know what happens
Nice to see you guys again! And yeah, the editing of T1 is art. Although T2 is the bigger movie, T1 is still my favorite, and I really hope this anime catches the same vibe.
My god, it feels like 2019!
'It follows' reminded me of Terminator & Terminator 2... that unstoppable presents... mixed with that paranoia that sits in films like 'Fallen' & 'Body Snatchers' ..it could be anyone!
Good point. I must rewatch “It Follows” actually. That sense of impending dread was very similar - DC
@@ValVerdeBroadcasting It Follows was a great film. Next time anyone watches it again, think of the colour red. Anytime you see that in the film, "It" is getting closer.
Thinking about the timelines at this point just reminds me of that Basil Exposition quote;
"I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself."
Yeah but this is (was) a franchise (yuk) that used to take that stuff seriously and asked the audience to do so too.
As an avid Terminator fan with my own separate Terminator Lore channel, I have to say I WANT to be excited for Terminator Zero, but the teaser made me nervous. Sure, they used the black background with red lasers like the 1984 poster, but they used the darn Genisys font instead of the original font.
I know you're very busy but it's nice to see you back again fellas😊
Thank you for understanding. We really are doing our best to put something out there. We enjoy it too!
I've always liked the first one the most. It's a horror film really, with a tech/sci-fi premise.
Kind of sad that the most enjoyable thing the Terminator franchise has spawned since 1991 is the Christian Bale rant.
Not too long ago I had this thought about what could be an interesting idea for a Terminator film and I had this idea of a Terminator film set in the Wild West where the Terminator is sent back to the wrong time due to a malfunction and ends up becoming the sheriff of a town.
Not sure if it's worthy of a film but it's a nice change of story telling for the Terminator films.
All bets are off at this point. It’s an interesting conceit 👍🏻
Okay, all I'm thinking of is Arnie singing Will Smith's Wild Wild West song now. A.I, make it so.
I think if they ever did a Terminator Future War movie it would just have to be a simple war story set in that environment with new, engaging characters for us to follow, and John Connor kept more in the background as a name we hear referenced a few times and that's it.
I'm thinking something like the film 1917 except set in the post apocalyptic future rather than the First World War.
Definitely go low budget and scuzzy.
The original idea for Salvation was for it to be Kyle Reese working with new characters and John Connor only cameoing but to get a big name to lead in Christian Bale they had to make Connor the lead and I feel that's where the film started to go wrong. I've heard the 'Sarah Connor Chronicals' was considering going in the 'Future War' direction for season 3 [which would be low scale due to it's TV budget] but it got cancelled [and Salvation was coming out around the same time].
@@jamesatkinsonja McG got a Dark Knight obsession, hiring its writer Jonathan Nolan and casting Bale.
I’ve always been interested in Skynet’s creation and the moment it becomes self aware and attacks humanity and the fallout.
I think a film or TV show could be made about that without needing to see yet another Arnold travel back in time.
And how do you go from global nuclear annihilation to Skynet creating factories to crank out Terminators?
It could start as a period piece set in 1997 (90’s nostalgia is sure to hit soon) and we could follow a group of individuals - a family, one or two employees at Cyberdyne etc… and follow their lives leading up to judgement day and beyond.
If the show is set in a contemporary setting we could see Cyberdyne begin as an A.I on everyone’s phone and its infiltration into every computer system on the planet that is networked.
The scene in T1 with Kyle Reece in the car with Sarah Conor explaining to her what’s happening while the terminator hunts them down is the peak of the franchise to me. That’s everything I want to see in a terminator movie. Fear, horror, confusion and unbearable tension. T2 was very good but everything else was just a watered down imitation of something resembling terminator but not really understanding why the originals were great.
Turdminators. All these new ones. Hope you gents and respective folks are all well.
Really enjoyed the new videos you've been making recently.
Thank you James!
Welcome back to me.
I,m impressed by the still screenshots that i,ve seen from it so far. And hopefully we,ll getta Future War animated TV series sequel
One of the few things that I'm actually looking forward to. It may be a load of shite but at least it's slightly interesting. So glad to have you fellas back! ❤
I didn't mind 'Dark Fate' but if the franchise has to continue, I'd rather they did something like this [where it's a different format and 'take it or leave it' related to the main series]. The 'Sarah Connor Chronical' wasn't perfect but they did try some new things.
I feel franchises tend to go to animated when they're burnt out audiences with the live action. So it's like try this, it's not commiteed to death because its not a 300 million dollar live action movie, but if you don't like it, you can call it non-canon
@@davidjames579 Very True. Highlander did it with the anime 'search for vengeance'. That's another franchise where the TV show was able to do new things and was considered pretty decent [at least in it's early days].
When the boys come together, I pull it together.
They could make future war film , it would just have to be a WAR film.
Like We Were Soldiers, 1917, or Black Hawk Dawn.
You guys going to see the 40th Anniversary screening of the first movie? Q&A with Gale Ann Hurd, Prince Charles Cinema in London, this Saturday. I can't wait.
Terminator: No Sugar
'Terminator: Gluten Free'
@@Thewingkongexchange Terminator: No Metal. He's just made of Gelatin now.
I'm looking forward to the scene where the Terminators turn up in 'Kes'...
He has to infiltrate the football match as the P.E. teacher.
Weekly vids? We’re not worthy.
Ah been wondering about this thought it had been cancelled.
There trying something similar with LOTR.
Interesting fact shortly after T2 Judgement Day finished filming their we,re plans forra Terminator animated cartoon series on CITV on either Wednesday or Thursday. But they sadly scrapped it before we even got to see the very1st episode all of the information about this is on Wikipedia
There was also an Aliens cartoon series planned. Like Rambo+ Starship Troopers [whose animated series did see the light of day] slightly odd choices for kid series!
For CITV!? Yo, forget Jungle Run. I wanna go back in time and watch a Terminator cartoon now 😆
My ideal set up for a new Terminator film would be a 10 Cloverfield Lane situation, where I don’t realise I’m watching a Terminator film until at least half way through. Obviously would never happen with such a big franchise, but a fanboy can dream.
I don't remember there being any aliens in that until the last 15 minutes. It was 90% a Hostel movie, and 10% "oh yeah, this is called Cloverfield something." But a film called No Fate where it just seems like a post apocalyptic survival movie until the creepers start getting revealed as Terminators in the last reel could be intriguing.
☠️ I'm a little intrigued by the direction choice i feel it could deliver something fresh. However I'm still highly optimistic about the execution overall. As a massive fan of the first 2, ive written a treatment script called
FUTURE SURVIVAL. Event's that take place before and after T1 and T2:JD from 2025-2082.
That shall focus on 2 corporate company's within the front line, with heavy emotional consequences moving forward. Yes with an older grizzled John Connor and a lot of my original I.P characters to.
A template that shall bring that looming horrific horror element back in saving civilians from the last remaining death camps. Hopefully i get it off the ground with crowdfunding so yeah we'll see.
But yeah TERMINATOR needs that dark sinister inbeded roots again, with interesting new character. Spins to i think overall, so perhaps TERMINATOR ZERO could offer that. ☠️
Didn't even know there was a new 'Terminator' thing, much less a trailer out there. I mean... at least it's not live action this time... 🤷♂
I dunno, maybe the whole thing needs to be put to bed, like Yoda in 'ROTJ'.
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Fuck it. Go full stop motion. How's that for stripping it back to its roots?
Terminator: Salvation is anything but shit, I think its a blast of adrenaline and a worthy sequel.
Their was plans for 2further sequels to Salvation but it never happened
@@bedfordshiremodeller4491 There's not much information about the plans either. Some of the ideas thrown about was to have Robert Patrick as a scientist [who's likness would be used for the T-1000], and Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor to somehow travel to the future war and be part of the story.
I can't express much I guess I can see they are trying to do something different other than that for me meh. I think The best of the franchise is the original and least Dark Fate.
For me Geynesis is the worst as it feels like a convoluted set up movie for sequels which never happened, Sarah Connor+ Kyle Reese are practically 'in name only' and it goes back to the original scenes and riffs on them for no real benefit.
@@jamesatkinsonja I enjoyed Dark Fate much more than that abomination that was Genysis/i own 6 or 7screen used Dark Fate props with the COA from Props in motion. The 1st one i won onna roolette wheel on Future Tech Collectibles website that makes/sells Terminator replica props that are all metal/not 3D printed
@@jamesatkinsonja It’s all for money though but of course it bombed Dark Fate is worse because the ending is so similar to that one but it’s dumber.
The problem with these guys, I find, is they aren't able to remove themselves from the viewing experience of being in their early 40's and holding a lot of reverence for these filmmakers and films from their childhoods, and put themselves in the shoes of someone born in, say, 2010 who has no previous history with the series besides through pop culture osmosis. Ofcourse if you grew up with Terminator and Alien and hold them up as seminal works in genre cinema, then any attempt to recapture that style in a new movie is going to look like going "back to the well" as Duncan keeps saying, but what about if those 80's films don't mean anything to you besides being dusty movies with dodgy effects and some ropey puppet/stop motion work? Suddenly the value proposition of a new film in the same universe is a lot more clear. Its similar to how Richard and Duncan would've grown up loving Indiana Jones, despite not having much regard for the adventure serials they were based on, or loving Gladiator despite having no prior awareness of the rich film history of swords and sandles movies. If you were in your 40's and 50's in 2000 when Gladiator came out you probably thought it was a pale imitation of films you watched growing up in the 50's, but Duncan and Richard weren't, they were in their teens in the year 2000 so they hold Gladiator as a modern classic. It seems people turning middle aged and becoming hostile about new interpretations of things is just nature taking its course.
I think it’s a bit unreasonable to expect us to view the world through a 14 year old’s eyes, while summarily dismissing our own experience of life, before what we have to say can be considered ‘valid’.
What’s the statute of limitations on that anyway? Do the views of 60 or 70 year olds need to be taken into consideration too?
Our complaint is one of principal. It’s with the constant retreading time after time, of literally the same stories, with nothing of substance to add to what came before.
I certainly take your point about us seeing 80s/90s movies with nostalgia, while not necessarily holding the movies that inspired them in high regard; but it’s not an “apples to apples” comparison. They were only inspirations. Not glossy, vacuous repeats of the same old (I hate this word) franchises. And also: how do you know that’s what we think? I knew about Ben Hur before I saw Gladiator (a film I’m largely indifferent towards by the way). It’s poor form to speak for us when it comes to the films we grew up loving.
- DC
Go away already Terminator....Such a mess the franchise is by now!
Please don’t make anyone terminator films 🤦♂️
PLEASE
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