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  • @LoganWood121
    @LoganWood121 2 роки тому +21

    This is like a reunion with old pals I've not seen in a decade.

  • @stevena488
    @stevena488 2 роки тому +16

    Can we just accept Homer chasing after Flanders with the golf clubs is the best sequel since T2?
    "Neddy? NEDDY!!"

  • @theurbangentry
    @theurbangentry 2 роки тому +4

    I can't tell you how much this return was welcomed. I missed listening to these two while "working". Sending love from an extremely hot Philly.
    A presto ragazzi!
    Cheers.
    T.

    • @ValVerdeBroadcasting
      @ValVerdeBroadcasting  2 роки тому +1

      Grazie mille fratello. So glad to be back! We're aiming to keep these coming as often as we can. Much love back at you from a typically tepid Blighty x

  • @sipope70
    @sipope70 2 роки тому +11

    Thanks guys i now have an image of Brosnan as a Terminator. Of course his upgrade would be not having red eyes. Read the below in Pierces voice.
    "I'm a new model i don't have red eyes... i have GoldenEyes!!!!"

    • @stephenhall2980
      @stephenhall2980 2 роки тому +1

      Also, picture Arnie shouting 'THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HEEERE!'

  • @jameslyddall
    @jameslyddall 2 роки тому +18

    I know you guys have a busy life and Richard's recent move to Brighton but I would love to have you two return the weekly commentaries. I always love interacting with the val verde community.

    • @jamesatkinsonja
      @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому +4

      Or even doing it monthly would be nice!

    • @ValVerdeBroadcasting
      @ValVerdeBroadcasting  2 роки тому +20

      Hi James - we do intend to, although it probably won't be weekly. Realistically, we're probably looking at July/August. Watch this space - DC

    • @jamesatkinsonja
      @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому +3

      @@ValVerdeBroadcasting Cool, take your time guys.

    • @henryglennon3864
      @henryglennon3864 2 роки тому +5

      Richard's moved to Brighton?! Has he decided whether he's a Mod or a Rocker yet?

    • @IanMcGarr
      @IanMcGarr 2 роки тому +2

      Maybe we could set up a VVB discord? We could all keep in touch on.

  • @Thewingkongexchange
    @Thewingkongexchange 2 роки тому +5

    26:06 He walks into the sea and explores the Titanic and Avatar or whatever
    34:32 Your auntie is Sean Connery?!
    1:05:40 Same here, got 2 mins into rewatching RoS and couldn't be arsed
    1:53:19 Saw Partridge in Brum, it was "lovely stuff"
    2:05:50 Arnold was happy to make ads with them fcking meerkats though

  • @georgejones8481
    @georgejones8481 2 роки тому +3

    About an hour in and can I just say what a nice feeling it is to have you 2 back. It's like a catch up with old friends. If you never do anything Val Verde again.. then thank you for what we've got. For someone to lives alone, these commentaries are like having mates over to pass the time.
    Thanks guys, peace ✌🏽

    • @ValVerdeBroadcasting
      @ValVerdeBroadcasting  2 роки тому +1

      It's a great pleasure and thank you George! Rest assured: this isn't the last you'll hear from us.

  • @sylwesterpastuszka5593
    @sylwesterpastuszka5593 2 роки тому +5

    You could say that both film's looks and music represent the villain. T1 has Arnold - big, heavy, rough, oily hard metal, like tools in the garage or factory just like the style and music of it. T2 has Robert Patrick's T-1000 which is this clean, high tech, slick metal almost like scalpel or a lab tool, very sterile and the picture and music (especially some queues have this stabbing sound just like his weapons) represent that. Both films are a masterpiece.

  • @ProstheticHead32bit
    @ProstheticHead32bit 2 роки тому +3

    This movie is like a dream Billy Bulls**t tells you he had after watching Sicario

  • @cordzfx
    @cordzfx 2 роки тому +1

    Was listening to this while making dinner and just burst out laughing at "they'll send the robot to you and the licorice to me". Miss you guys.

  • @s.wstudioproductions5977
    @s.wstudioproductions5977 2 роки тому +5

    Enjoy Partridge Richard, I had a ruddy good night in Liverpool last week, best night out I've had since Gary Wilmot's wedding.

    • @stevena488
      @stevena488 2 роки тому +1

      Saw him in Glasgow and laughed so hard I was nearly sick.

  • @vinylated
    @vinylated 2 роки тому +1

    Within the first few minutes I was laughing my head off. And no UA-cam video has done that in a long time for me. Welcome back boys! 🙏

  • @HumanHamCube
    @HumanHamCube 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you guys for the shout out! The key problem with the opening shot of "endoskeletons of the Carribbean" is the composition. It's more video game cinematic THAN cinematic. LACKS DEPTH and action. Its flat and panning. The key to the opening of T2 waa the dynamic composition of each shot. The opening of T2 felt like a War and immersion in to the ccnstant guerrila war horror of the future. Provides future context for the "present
    ?" Stakes. T2 would be a totally different movie if they cut out the opening and the "Nuclear Nightmare" scene. Im glad those scenes were fought for. For narrative sake. Arguably the most compelling for the audience. Those scenes introduced and raised the stakes. JC fought for the opening and nuclear nightmare and paid off. Those scenes were more expensive than the first T. We got the "opening Shot of a Terminator film" and were stoked then you watch it and well......we do what we are told

    • @chumpey
      @chumpey 2 роки тому +4

      Bro - you did incredible work. End of. It’s the creative decision making that’s flawed, not the SFX work. You’re also hamstrung by the modern techniques and expectations. You rock on 👍👊

    • @HumanHamCube
      @HumanHamCube 2 роки тому +2

      @@chumpey cheers! You're an actor(good one) you know the strengths/flaws and frailties in a script! The box is made on the page for everyone. Filmworker Creed: Never take anything personal but the pride in your own work! In VFX we always see the end product in pieces we never see the whole. The problem with new film is that the new films are created in pieces. Ex. Michael Bay makes Scenes not films) As film workers we are only parts.

    • @chumpey
      @chumpey 2 роки тому +4

      @@HumanHamCube 100% that’s why I insist on reading the whole script for a project, even if I’m just a day player. For me it’s really important to have an idea of the whole and what (if anything) they are trying to say with it. Like you say though, these mega productions are just thrown together like cinematic Lego!

    • @HumanHamCube
      @HumanHamCube 2 роки тому

      @@chumpey no Terminator Dinks were made or harmed in making of this film

    • @stevena488
      @stevena488 2 роки тому +1

      Hey Logan! Stupendous work mate. You and the team did a great job.

  • @ryanmcavoy
    @ryanmcavoy 2 роки тому +2

    Just realised that the first part of the fanfare on this stream sounds very much like the theme from the 'Masters Of The Universe' movie (by which I mean awesome).

  • @KevinJamesVideo
    @KevinJamesVideo 2 роки тому +3

    "Shit in its own right" is a great way to surmise the type of esteem this movie carries.

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX 2 роки тому +2

    OMG, The Haberdashenator, I love it! "I'm a Terminator--of boring window treatments!"

  • @MrHEC381991
    @MrHEC381991 2 роки тому +2

    I purposefully got a crew cut, wore a pair of Gargoyle sunglasses and knocked up a maid listening to this while smoking a Balmoral cigar in honour of VVB.
    But yeah, the best thing I can say is that it's not as bad as Terminator Genisys :\

    • @stevena488
      @stevena488 2 роки тому +1

      That's called "Withdrawl symptoms". And nothings quite as bad as Terminator Gsnisysses (or however the hell it's spelled)... Unless they get the Lonely Island Boys to do a Very Terminator Christmas.

  • @Daveinhampshire
    @Daveinhampshire 2 роки тому

    Welcome back guys, glad you’re back.
    Duncan should be the next James Bond.

  • @0nlycams14
    @0nlycams14 2 роки тому +5

    Can’t wait to hear the lads again, the most I’ve seen of this film was watching it on a flight on another persons monitor 😂 couldn’t hear it but I have thought of giving it a shot cause it at least looks to have took itself more seriously than Terminator: Mega Drive.

    • @jamesatkinsonja
      @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому

      The fact it was a 15 and could bring back the swearing and a bit more violence helped. Arnie gets some humor but isn't the comic relief he is in T3 and T5 [helped by having a reduced role].

    • @0nlycams14
      @0nlycams14 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamesatkinsonja funnily enough I took the time today to watch this proper with audio and everything. It’s as derivative as most of the post-t2 films have been but I liked the tone, direction and the action out of those films. Everyone performs well enough, but the story is just nothing new.

  • @samueltaylor4698
    @samueltaylor4698 11 місяців тому +1

    You guys really *should* give Sarah Connor Chronicles a go. A few of the ideas you suggest that would make sense are actually explored quite well in that show (completing a mission and going out there to do extra work for skynet, sex as a weapon, doing a big wee on Shirley Manson dressed as a urinal...) and for my money it's the Terminator 3 we never really got. It does ask you to buy some pretty silly stuff, but as you're both a fan of saying it's usually done in service of something more interesting and Terminator-y.
    Also the montage at the end of the first season does for the T800 what that corridor scene did for Vader in Rogue One - reminds us why these bastards are scary.

    • @johnmcternan4157
      @johnmcternan4157 10 місяців тому

      the scene involving a bathtub in the 1st season is proper nightmare fuel.

  • @johnmcternan4157
    @johnmcternan4157 6 місяців тому

    13:20 A bright spark executive: "Its a lady alien!"

  • @s.wstudioproductions5977
    @s.wstudioproductions5977 2 роки тому +1

    In the end, I was hoping for Duncan to say, I am hopping mad and I want something in the middle.

  • @BigBeyatchB
    @BigBeyatchB 2 роки тому

    I love you guys! I’ve missed this. Thank you

  • @sinanatamer2300
    @sinanatamer2300 2 роки тому +1

    There was a Something Awful article YEARS back of a skynet production robot's daily reports, constantly complaining about the skulls getting everywhere and halting production, and never seeing a human being ever, and being fascinated about horses. After a few pages it was convincing Skynet to send it back to the western times with a horse to kill John Connor's great-grandpa or something, but in fact wanted to live as a cowboy, and succeeds.
    This films plot is even stupider than that.

  • @stephenhall2980
    @stephenhall2980 2 роки тому +3

    Have you seem VVB dark fate? it's the long awaited reboot of the series that most poeple forgot about where original villain Oliver Harper goes back in time and attempts to kill Richard and Duncan via some implausible plot contrivance to ensure the success of his own channel in the future? erm... sorry,not sure where i'm going with this...

  • @kazuhirala
    @kazuhirala 2 роки тому +1

    Crazy to think that Predator, Terminator, Alien, and Robocop all end with their 2nd installment.

    • @jamesatkinsonja
      @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому

      I didn't think Robocop 2 or Predator 2 were that well regarded by general audiences [not just the 'cult following' a lot of older films have these days which is good for those fans].

    • @kazuhirala
      @kazuhirala 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamesatkinsonja Well in that case, it just proves some should’ve just stayed as a 1-off film. I really enjoy RoboCop 2 - the general audience can go straight to the pits of Hades for all I care

    • @jamesatkinsonja
      @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому +1

      @@kazuhirala Lol! I like Robocop 2 too, just wish the Paul V had directed it. Not that keen on Predator 2. I'm surprised Batman Returns has such as strong following these day as it's not my cup of tea but some think it's the best batman film ever. I do love that some of these films are getting love and respect these days.

  • @petercarlier861
    @petercarlier861 2 роки тому +1

    Am
    8 minutes in and I had to stop and say Bravo guys. Good to have you back.

  • @PaulRizzo
    @PaulRizzo 2 роки тому

    I fucking love these guys.
    WE NEED MOOOOORRRRRE!!!!!

  • @neillharte
    @neillharte 2 роки тому

    Was looking forward to this😊😊

  • @ovisatma
    @ovisatma 2 місяці тому

    @37:40, boy you should try GLOW then :))

  • @neilhutchinson4545
    @neilhutchinson4545 2 роки тому

    Sorry that I couldn't join in the chat(bloody work got in the way!), but I hope to listen to the commentary over the weekend.

  • @jamesatkinsonja
    @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому +2

    Probably would rank this best of the post T2 films [though that is not saying much], mainly due to McKenzie Davis and Linda Hamilton's work and it's nice to have Arnie slightly more in the background for a change. I think if this had been made in 2015 instead of Geneysis people might have liked it more [and it did do okay critically] but like Alien Covenant I bet I'm in the minority who like it! [btw not bothered about what happens in the opening given how JC was portrayed in 3 and 5 especially].

  • @davidcauley9400
    @davidcauley9400 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed the chat! Loled aplenty

  • @therealmovieman
    @therealmovieman 2 роки тому

    Been looking forward to this 🙌

  • @JackassJunior627
    @JackassJunior627 2 роки тому

    Please rewatch Deep Blue Sea and Jaws the Revenge 😂 they were my favourite commentaries of you guys when you were with Oliver Harper.

  • @Thewingkongexchange
    @Thewingkongexchange 2 роки тому +2

    It wasn't as bad as the other sequels (not counting T2 clearly) but at the same time that makes it more forgettable tbh. Dani(?) is a piss weak John Connor replacement aswell.

    • @jamesatkinsonja
      @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому +3

      Did Dani need to be in this movie? I think dropping the tired 'protection' angle and doing a story that Rev-9 is back to try and ensure 'Legion' takes over and Grace is there to stop him might have been a new twist on it.

  • @JoeChillton
    @JoeChillton 2 роки тому

    I just clicked back and i can't wait to hear you mad bastards cover the 3rd Remix of T2!

  • @halomultiplayermoments
    @halomultiplayermoments 2 роки тому

    Terminator Reece says terminators can’t change or feel pitty so how can this terminator grow a conscious?

  • @Thewingkongexchange
    @Thewingkongexchange 2 роки тому

    I think you guys should flash up the Samaritans phone number at the end of the commentary lol!

  • @dvforever
    @dvforever 2 роки тому +1

    Terminator Film Rankings
    T1 - 8.5 out of 10
    T2 - 9.5 out of 10
    T3 - 6.5 out of 10
    T Salvation - 6.5 out of 10
    T Genisys - 3.0 out of 10
    T Dark Fate - 3.5 out of 10

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird 2 роки тому

    You know what the definition of insanity is? Making a Terminator sequel

  • @Champagne7779311
    @Champagne7779311 2 роки тому

    Despite its massive storytelling flaws, I think the opening chase sequence is excellent. The factory fight and truck chase are really well shot, with a nice mixture of practical effects, stunt work and CG. It's a pity it later devolves into CGI planes crashing into each other. I think that if they had stuck with the aesthetic of the opening chase, the film would have been much more enjoyable.

  • @AlexGarcia-ze4yg
    @AlexGarcia-ze4yg 2 роки тому

    No excuses nor forgiveness for this trashfire.

  • @andrewk2250
    @andrewk2250 2 роки тому

    Great stuff boys!

  • @ryanricardo
    @ryanricardo 2 роки тому +1

    For a laugh I would love to see the guys do commentary on the new Star Wars films 🤣🤣🤣

  • @JellyfaceProductions
    @JellyfaceProductions 2 роки тому

    Fed up with soft reboots and this was no exception. Totally misguided film with horrible ideas....BUT, this commentary had me laughing out loud more than a few times and god knows I needed a laugh. Lovely stuff.

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX 2 роки тому +2

    Dark Hate just seems to hate T2 despite aping it to hell. I think T3 is a better followup, as bad as it is.
    -R Meyers

    • @jamesatkinsonja
      @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому +1

      Have to disagree with that. T3 pretty much dispenses with T2 in a sentence ['judgement day is inevitable'], John Connor is just a moaning loser and Sarah was killed off screen. Not to mention Skynet's return not really being explained after being wiped out which was the point of a good deal of T2 and Arnie's demise at the end of that film. People praise the ending but is only there to set up T4 which is the film they actually wanted to make. Say what you will about Dark Fate but Linda Hamilton's return puts it above T3 any day for me.
      As an aside i never got why Genesis felt the need to remake scenes from the first Terminator with 'surprise twists' which some critics loved but I couldn't stand as they basically took scenes from a better product and desecrated it.

    • @RM_VFX
      @RM_VFX 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamesatkinsonja Meh, I was at least entertained by T3, I just hated this. T3 Skynet didn't need the research on the cpu chip left in the first film, because it had already happened without that, and it causes a causality paradox anyway. Blowing up a building is remedied by insurance, and they would have surely had offsite backups. I was kind of ok with the idea that T2 just delayed things a bit, because a new Terminator film would've been fun, without some of the characterizations and logic problems (which all the post T2 films have). I liked that they finally pulled the trigger on Judgement Day, and was really excited to see the future war in the next film. And then we got Salvation....
      But yeah, I never watched Genesys because it looked like a crap TV spinoff that just got to play with all the toys without earning any of it.
      -R Meyers

    • @jamesatkinsonja
      @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому +1

      @@RM_VFX I do wonder if they could have just gone straight to the future war film as a 'prequel' to the first Terminator as that is clearly what they were more passionate about. Your not wrong about Genesys [doesn't help there 'younger and cooler' versions of Sarah Conner and Kyle Reese are pale shadows of the original].

    • @RM_VFX
      @RM_VFX 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamesatkinsonja They might as well have, because they kept going back to the well of "the future war happened anyway". Which isn't made any better by this film, where not only does nothing in the first two films matter because the apocalypse is inevitable, but Sarah and John's existence doesn't matter, because apparently there will always be a savior to run the resistance.

  • @freemantle85
    @freemantle85 2 роки тому

    My Terminator ranking
    6. Rise of the Machines
    5. Genisys
    4. Dark Fate
    3. Salvation
    2. The Terminator
    1. T2
    The Terminator and T2 are interchangement.

  • @Rodimus1
    @Rodimus1 2 роки тому +1

    They neutered Arnold.

  • @zambonsfilmemporium1526
    @zambonsfilmemporium1526 2 роки тому +2

    dark fate is only good because Linda Hamilton is in it. don't come @ me
    😀😀😂

  • @boing615
    @boing615 2 роки тому

    I love the commentaries lads, really do but there's something ironic about complaining about Hollywood only remaking the same old franchises over and over because that's where the easy money lies then only doing commentaries of the same old franchises because that's where the viewing figures are. There's only so much to be said about Terminator/Alien/Predator and it feels like it's all been said. I'd much prefer to cover a bit more variety of stuff, Return of the living Dead / any Romero zombie flick, BTTF trilogies, Rocky series, you could do a list of 80's action movies or horrors, or maybe Cronenberg body horrors or Scorsese gangster movies and I feel they would all appeal to your audience.

    • @ValVerdeBroadcasting
      @ValVerdeBroadcasting  2 роки тому

      This whole enterprise has to justify itself. This is the first new Terminator content in over a year, it's a film we've never covered in this format and it's been very popular. Meanwhile we've covered Italian cinema, four different Romero zombie films (across three formats), nuclear panic films, a ton of John Carpenter movies, the Cohens, Barry Sonnenfeld, two different Rocky films across two different formats and I don't recall you commenting upon those (the "You only ever talk Terminator" crowd never do).
      Comparing us to the multi-millionaire rights owners to the Terminator franchise when we make a few quid per video is daft and inaccurate. Sorry.

    • @boing615
      @boing615 2 роки тому

      @@ValVerdeBroadcasting You know what, fair enough mate, I had a look at the vids section and it's pretty varied, I think I've been clicking on your stuff on the sidebar mostly and I just keep getting Alien/Terminator/predator feeds a lot of the time for some reason.

  • @robobrando
    @robobrando 2 роки тому

    Holy shit

  • @jamesatkinsonja
    @jamesatkinsonja 2 роки тому

    Terminator Film ranking:
    T1: 10 out of 10
    T2: 10 out of 10
    T3: 3.5 out of 10
    Salvation: 4 out of 10 [feels like a generic future war with terminator branding and still has do the 'kill John Conner' stuff while setting up for sequels that were never made]
    Genysis: 3 out of 10
    Dark Fate: 6 out of 10.

  • @AmasBansalArt
    @AmasBansalArt 2 роки тому

    For the algorithm. It'd be great if you can collab with The Critical Drinker.

  • @IanMcGarr
    @IanMcGarr 2 роки тому

    Salvation is the best out of all of the sequels. This movie was fun first time but I couldn't give a toss about it now. So boring.

  • @tahuaroa
    @tahuaroa 2 роки тому

    this movie is unappreciated

  • @themoviegod
    @themoviegod 2 роки тому

    this is my favourite movie it’s so fantastic I loved it so much and give it 10/10

  • @khaldrogo4460
    @khaldrogo4460 2 роки тому +1

    What a garbage movie