How We Will Build The First Moon Base!
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- How We Will Build The First Moon Base! Today we're reviewing the Artemis Project, spearheaded by NASA and the US government, with China and Russia announcing plans for a lunar outpost. In addition to NASA, China, and Russia, SpaceX has plans for their first moon base.. so let's review!
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0:00 Introduction
1:24 The key players
3:55 Building the moon
5:37 Space resources
10:24 Lunar infrastructure - Наука та технологія
Who do you think will build the first Moon Base, SpaceX and NASA or China and Russia? Let us know below!
your channel scratches that itch to hear about space news perfectly....
Probably China where money is no object, unless they get into a war over Taiwan. The technology they lack they can steal, have you noticed that every Western research project has multiple Chinese scientists involved. Then probably Space X who aren't afraid of taking risks. Then a tie between Nasa and Russia, Nasa projects take 10 times longer and cost 10 times more and they are risk adverse, Russia has the will but lacks the financial resources unless the sanctions are lifted.
I guess Space X if allowed to do so
The idea of building a solar panel ring around moon's equator has a small logical problem. If you look at the numbers its a no brainer.
a) If you can cover the moon with solar panels. Why can't you put in on earth instead, if the purpose is to supply earth with energy.
b) When you convert solar energy (photons) into electricity (electron) via solar panels. the efficiency is at best 25%.
c) Then you convert the electricity (electrons) into laser (photon) at a conversion efficiency of between 50%-85%. So you are left with 12.5% or 21.25% of the original solar energy.
d) then on earth you again convert the laser (photons) into electricity (electrons) at maybe 30% efficiency with the best photovoltaic cell humans could produce. So you are looking at 3.75% (practical figure) to 6.375% (best case scenario) of the original energy.
So the sensible thing to do is just put the solar panels on earth and you get 25% of the solar energy as useful electricity.
Think about solar panels in space as a resistance to the free flow of photons from the sun and not as a giant collector of solar panels.
Putting solar panels in space only makes sense if our energy needs are greater than 30% of the energy the sun gives us and we have already tapped into all of it. Then to collect more energy you have no option but venture into space.
a gsa (global space agency )would be good save alot of money by not keep repeating projects on a national level instead spend on new projects develop ing new space technology quicker
Those aliens at the end 😂
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Thank you for all of your efforts to give us such quality content!
I fully agree but could somebody please give those Aliens a sandwich? They look like they're starving. 😄
They have 119K subscribers today!
I really love the idea of a Luna Telescope, especially since it would be constructed on the dark side of the Moon. We would be able to see so much more of the universe without all the light polution and other environmental obstructions.
The dark side is not dark when sun ☀️ shine on it, it is called the FAR side for this reason. The idea of a telescope 🔭 there is good goal, not having the earth in sight is perfect for radio astronomy and optics too.
There is no dark side. It's just the back side or as John has said... Far side.
Oh yeah magnetic particle acceleration and taking the particle accelerator and scenting antimatter eons are electrons through microwave bursts or a stream of energy off of a particle magnet magnet on the end of a pipe or a 12 inch speaker magnet and putting the nether pipe contain it and then another magneton that and directing the energy beam to another said magnetic substrate on the magnetic particle accelerator sending electrons wirelessly through the air just as in Nikola Tesla Nikola Tesla Tesla coils structures on the main productions and wireless energy sending devices
The electro ion drive in the ion energy thermal axial flux energy thermostatic induction flying up and the Galaxy or in a Boeing 747 and using an aeon Flux electrothreads generator and an electric microwave jet engine to go out into space with the electro-conductive 747 and the biocontainment already there on the 747 for high-altitude
Here's a crazy thought NASA's Galaxy remember the giant Galaxy aircraft that the giant one that we transport all the NASA equipment for and now you know if it fits little Huey helicopters and shit like that inside of it and giant NASA Galaxy play nevermind I'm just playing up on the thought about an electro axial flux magnetic engine and the Galaxy aircraft and the 747 flying into space NASA
The moon is covered in H-3. Its kind of important for Fusion reactors.
yup this is why they're going, one of the reasons
The latest news from fusion development makes this likely.
Ahh "H-3," staple point of Gundam lore, where compact Minovsky reactors use it to generate a form of fusion that has the side effect of dispersing Minovsky radiation. That radiation scatters radio wave based communication systems... forcing people to fight ... in Giant Humanoid Robots(mech) called "mobile suits."
This Minovsky radiation might have played a catalytic role in the emergence of humans with enhanced situational awareness that is geared toward optimizing orientation(in space but also intrapersonal and interpersonal orientation, allowing for functional but totally virtual~false boost in I.Q).
These people sense multiple layers of subtext and context that are generally outside the attention~awareness of those who aren't the top of their respective fields of study or skill. This makes them borderline superhumans that have adept adaptability and a greater than normal range of potential for mental development + corresponding kinesthetic capability~proficiency. A small percentage of these "Newtype" characters do develop their faculties into the realm of "ESPER" like ability to read the nature of people and things. This ability triggers harmonic resonance that amplifies the flow of cognition and communication between two or more characters that touch on the threshold of Newtype awakening. This is their entering a state of "transcending themsleves," similar to bypassing our hands to imprive the "data link rate" of our minds and the A.I in our phones, as Elon Musk puts it. Not every one of these enhanced Humans can reach "esper" levels of "intuition," perception and cognition but nearly all of them can reach Ace level proficiency in whatever they practice, all within a few short months after they are initially exposed.
The Newtype wasn't meant to be undermined as a mere magical being to be scoffed at as it has been by many "fans" of Gundam but an avenue of hope. Hope that people can mature past the *binding GRAVITY of insecurity* so we might then see the inner light of possibility, the light that resides in every heart as we all hope to grasp an ever improved quality of life for every interrelated being that is part of that life(biosphere).
Papa bless
@@MardrukZeiss Don't worry fusion is still 20 years away. And in 20 years it will only be another 20 years away.
I am a 50 year old man who was a baby at the time of the moon landings and am Mega excited about returning to the moon I just cant wait to see it on the Tv I will be GLUED. I only wish i could live another 100 years to see a Moon and Mars base.
Love your videos keep up the awesome space content
I Agree. Keep it going. Up to the Moon we go! Then to Mars. Whats next?
Too bad he sounds like a 7 year old child
at 9:33 you imply that Hydrogen is frozen in those cold traps at 60°K. Hydrogen melts at 14°K, and goes to gas at 21°K, so even in a cold trap, it would be a gas.
frozen water he meant probably.
Once a lunar base is established, besides in-situ resource utilization, the Moon can be used of source of construction materials. Space liners, orbiting hotels and other facilities can be constructed from lunar derived metals. It is clearly very expensive to haul from Earth to orbit construction materials. Things as simple as steel plate can be manufactured on the Moon, shot into orbit and used for the base materials of large ships and structures. Eventually metal (M-type) asteroids can be maneuvered into an Earth or lunar orbit for similar purposes.
The same can be said for MARS, CERES, and other asteroids.
All this stuff sounds neat, but what is the economic incentive to do it? I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about resources.
Would you REALLY want to live on the moon, or on a space station? Imagine, never being able to go outside, no mountains, no hiking, you are in a structure, for years, maybe a lifetime. Unless there's a resource to be obtained, it's unlikely we're going to be establishing any colony somewhere any time soon.
@@fuzzywzhe Many would. Wander lust is a key component in a large segment of humanity.
You sound like a film right out of the 50's. Orbiting hotels? LMAO!!!
@@Riteaidbob Well, ironically, orbiting hotels have been proposed for the commercialization of space. Some realistic, some that couldn't be done in this century.
Man your killing it with the content its soo good.
With the advent of reusable launch vehicles, the game has changed in a big way. Falcon 9 is already about 20% the cost per ton to orbit of its closest competitor... And Starship will be even cheaper per launch than Falcon 9, with nearly 5x the payload. A whole order of magnitude cheaper!
I hope other launch providers start competing too
I 100% thought that last one was the lead up for a backblaze sponsorship 🤣
Fantastic video, some really cool ideas on
what to do with our beloved moon.
A permanent Moon base would be a much more useful thing, than a Mars base, in todays view of the space situation.
Why do you think that? There's no good reason to have a base on the moon. Remote telescopes and robotic He3 miners sure but a base is pointless
@@gordtulloch Agre to Your comment about automation, but a scientific research station and maybe later transformed to a tourist place could be build. SpaceX could have some use for their coming StarShips.
@@bofink5377 Tourists? "Hey honey let's go to the moon on your next 2 week vacation. I hear the tunnels are lovely this time of year".
@@Riteaidbob How about it being astronomically wonderful to be able to go to another planet/moon?? Be in zero G, rocket launch, space walk, moon landing, low gravity, look at the Earth from another object in Space etc etc etc. But no Steve... there is only "tunnels"
A moon base would only make sense if its a stepping stone for further travels. Sure there could be a station for some research etc and tourism could be something too. But mostly at this point in time it would make sense to use the moon as a low gravity stepping stone. Fuel production and storage etc.
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The channel seems great, the host is underrated however!! ;D
Great video. I'm excited to see what happens with the moon bases and the Gateway space station.
LOL.......gateway space station is a 110% grift and has no possible way of EVER being built in your lifetime.
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I think it would be very important to build large structures to use as indoor hydroponic gardens for crops.
Plants need carbondioxide
@@poppz3395 I wouldn't imagine it would be too hard to supply the structure with any ingredients necessary to maintain plant life. I also just watched a video today where he mentioned that he wants to use glass domes for plant life.
@@poppz3395 Good thing that is what people exhale.
@@jessepollard7132 and people exhale carbon dioxide thanks to the food we eat, so it's an egg and the chicken kinda thing. If u want to have crops or any sort of life u need some sort of carbon source, and maybe u could get that from those cold traps on the moon, or from some other sort of geological structure there
Building actual crops maybe too hard for now, so I think sending food and such would be the best option for a while. Altho maybe u could engineer crops to use up less resources that are rare on the moon, and then it could get easier to get crops. But for sure food production is a very important step to having a long term moon station
I have been watching US Military moon base videos all evening, and yours was giving me data points unlike any other videos before. Excellent job and presentation!
I am over the Moon about all this good stuff. Thank you for your ongoing capsule of space news.
I love your channel. This video is one of the most informative pieces of seen regarding this topic.
Cool Video
I Wish we could just Stop fighting each Others and unite unser one flag
Well that won’t happen until some of the alien races have decided that we’re worth making contact with. Then I’m sure most earth country leaders will think of them as an enemy that we all have in common. We would of course think of them as a threat, as we currently do with each other. 🤨
@@kirra7406 if terrestrial find us, them gonna colonized first we don't know their occupation to can be large community like country, race unity or tribalisme or more worst small community like pirate, family or company
@@anaskhoiri3653 I’ve only come across one type/race, can’t comment on the rest of them.
Yes, Earth's despots have wanted that for centuries!! LOL :D
It may take a number of years figuring out but a space elivator could help in the construction on are nearest celestial satellite. Also, Digging underground could provide us with endless room for expansion with 3-D printing in mind. For right now, like said, the starship is are best option with out spending billions more for the first base on the moon. China and Russia can do what ever they want in space but it would be better if we earthlings were all work together for all mankind.
So True & less Carbon foot print 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 while Starship is the best rocket(s) able to carry the most people & cargo it still requires more fuel than a electric elevator system would.
What's the difference between "are" and "our"? Didn't think you knew.
Mostely depends on where an elevator has to be. L1/L2 isn't a bad. but L3/L4 are horrible (way way too large a stable volume).
Living under ground. WOOHOO! Sound wonderful. (s/)
@@TidusCloudRulez Carbon footprint? Take a minute to think about this silly and misleading term.
The media has convinced many that releasing Carbon into the atmosphere will lead to an abnormal condition of increased carbon and higher global temperatures. The reality is that CURRENT conditions are abnormal, and our attempts to combat "global warming" are actually an attempt to delay the inevitable transition of our planet to its normal condition.
The fossil record shows that for most of the existence of this world, conditions were much warmer, with higher humidity and higher CO2 levels. There have been multiple periods of colder temperatures (ice ages), generally coupled with extinction-level events. Science tells us that fossil fuels are the result of millions of years of heat and pressure acting upon the remains of plants and animals killed during these events.
The elephant in the living room here is that nobody wants to discuss exactly where the carbon in fossil fuels came from. We say "ancient plants and animals" and leave it at that. OK. Assume that ancient animals ultimately got their carbon from either plants or from eating animals that ate plants. No prob...that is where MY carbon content came from.
Now, where did the ancient plants get THEIR carbon from? We know the answer to this one..we learned it in grade school. Plants take Carbon Dioxide from the atmosphere, and release oxygen. From. The. Atmosphere.
So, if a plant takes CO2 from the atmosphere, dies, turns to oil, then I burn that oil releasing the carbon to the atmosphere, all I have really done is put it back where it came from in the first place. If I throw a log into the fireplace and light it, part of the carbon in that log will be released to the atmosphere...right where the tree took it from while it was alive. The only difference is that one was living 50 years ago, the other 50 million years ago.
There exist many good and valid reasons to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels, including that fact that they are a finite resource better used for purposes other than energy production. "Carbon footprint" and "Climate Change" are simply terms used to justify taking your money away from you while the inevitable happens with or without any action from humans. All we can do is (perhaps) slow the process.
Bloke, you need to post during live NASA streams or something. I've only just stumbled on this channel, and I follow about a dozen others and had never heard of The Space Race. Subscribed.
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On minute 5:00 you claim that "SpaceX's plan is to tip the starship and cover it with regolith". You're actually talking about a project that I conceived and worked on with a group of talented friends. While I'll be overjoyed if SpaceX makes it their plan, currently its not. But if Channels like yours keep promoting our project maybe it would become a reality.
We can send sequestered CO2 to the moon as fuel and fertilizer. It can help build the infrastructure to remove CO2 from our atmosphere while supporting a sustainable food and energy system for earth and offworld settlements.
Nitrogen is fertilizer, not CO²
@@Heliocentric you can create biochar from nearly any biomass feedstock. Then you can charge the biochar with rich organic microbial compost, all of which is carbon based. Living soil with a high carbon content will be valuable off world.
Graphite, methane, and other carbon based products would be valuable too.
Ammonia has immense potential too. The Haber Bosch process uses hydrogen generated from methane currently.
We can transition the whole world to a sustainable economy using solar and batteries to produce ammonia with electrolysis. Send as much CO2 offworld and to permanent building materials as possible. Re wild as much of earth as possible by using advanced indoor and marine agriculture as well as regenerative permaculture and agroforestry methods inland.
@@vivian3371lol. So silly. We wouldn't move it all to the moon and Mars. Just a billion or so tons
No - the shipping is too expensive.
@@jessepollard7132 The cost of getting to orbit continues to fall. As space exploration takes root in the coming years, i think sending high quality carbon rich topsoil would be very valuable.
LOL. love the solar flare image
Many good ideas in the video.
As for a far future human DNA bank underground on the Moon, why not build a far future city underground on the Moon?
Underground protects from radiation.
Power the city with the solar panels mentioned in the video.
Structures can be built underground to grow crops and for living habitats.
Sleeping quarters could be put in underground centrifuges to create artificial gravity and so on.
Lots of potential on the Moon.
8:56 No, it wouldn't be. Rare Earths are really common on Earth, plus the moon has lots of Helium-3, which is really useful, and moon mining doesn't disturb the Earth, which we kind of need to keep undisturbed. We can carry out large-scale mining operations without harming environments
Without harming moon environments?
@@lewiswereb8994 Who cares about moon environments? What's so significant on the moon that mining is going to disrupt?
@@lewiswereb8994 What moon environments? there are none there.
Rare metal and rare moon clay can change periodical table on earth, new element for discovery, learn and use
@@anaskhoiri3653 No new elements can be found. ALL that exist have already been identified and found on EARTH.
The thought of mining ⛏ the moon sounds like an awesome idea 💡 & it might be risky or might not. Who knows. Why? Ok. Listen carefully. Iffy we mine the moon for many reasons for our needs, then the moon WILL GET smaller & smaller. Someday in a thousands years from now, the moon we all see in the sky will be like a small rock 🪨 that you can carry it in your hands. Shouldn’t we be concerned 😟 about that? This mining ⛏ on the moon has bothered me for a long time. Perhaps mining on any asteroids will be safer. Feel free to debate.
Always risky.
Or build a Death Star alike like in Star Wars.
What a wonderful future for humanity. Some great ideas.
That was great! For power they should bring teleoperated reactors and just stick them into a pit 1000m away. Mining, processing, refining and production of everything useful in an assembly line factory, including water, oxygen, etc., into the tanks. The mining, strip mining since there is no environment, can be in the form of pits and trenches, that are later turned into habs and tunnels (with full wall LEDs showing the outside surface). Food is TV dinners and water they have. I think a continual presence of 11 crew rotated every six months, plus facilities for double, would be sufficient to prove the concept. Once everyone knows the cost and risk, people/orgs can build their own copies.
Just wait until an advertising exec gets the idea to put a logo on the moon that is visible from Earth.
teleoperator commands would take too long to execute on the moon... anything you send to the moon would need to be automated and self sufficient. Six months on the moon would likely make many humans sterile afterwards and they would start losing noticable muscle mass .by the third month. so that coming back to Earth could end up being a death sentence
@@ResidualSelfImage not anymore than the rovers that have been sent to the Moon.
@The Richest Man In Babylon "Meanwhile kids die every day of Beri Beri et al..... in the tropics". That, my friend, is a POLITICAL issue, NOT a SCIENCE issue.
In many small (and some large) countries around the world, a healthy and educated populace is the government's worst nightmare. When a person is isolated and uneducated, they will not realize that better conditions exist elsewhere. When a person's existence revolves around a daily struggle to get enough to eat to repeat the process the next day, they will generally not be able to consider actually changing their circumstances.
Most of the starving and disease-ridden people living in "third-world" countries have "leaders" who get fat on imported food, receive the best of modern health care, ride around in limos, and have a private jet sitting on the tarmac if they want to be elsewhere. North Korea comes to mind.
@The Richest Man In Babylon
So what countries are you talking about in terms of kids dying. Should easy for you to answer.
Must have NASA permission sounds like NASA is claiming ownership?
No, they do safty and the FAA is what grants permission to launch through the airspace of the US.
If no country can claim land on the moon, why would a private company need “permission” from one to go there?
They still have corporate HQ on earth in the USA or their various country/ies the regulator officials on earth are able to penalize said company. I mean you Can't live on the moon forever Yet.
If trillions of $$$ is gonna be spent to go and live there; you can bet your last$$$ that whoever spends that dough, will eventually claim ownership of the area that were chosen for the construction of those facilities. It is just another Real Estate potential grab.
There will have to be laws developed here on Earth ; to insure that whoever has the capabilities of making the first settlement on the moon ,can at least have the right to defend its location from rogue nations that have the capability to go there too.
We'll see how things will go on, that is, if it ever happens.
They have to fly through the countries airspace. That is why SpaceX has to wait for permission from the FAA to launch.
ONly to fly through that countries air space.
"Protect from solar flares"
*Shows a picture of Tien!* LOL omg
Moon observatories are a good idea. The simplest would be a radio telescope and/or spun pool of mercury, forming a large parabolic mirror. But there will be clutter in the moons orbit, too, if we are there. Rare earth metals have been identified. He3 also could be mined there from the regolith. The first Lunar Starship can bring 100 tons of machinery to the moon, which is a shopping list I'd like to see. A Tesla Cybertruck with a plow Could be 3 tons of it.
One thing I would like to do in moon is sipping coffee while watching earth n the view of the moon of the glass dome or something like that
Considering the scarcity of water on the moon, your coffee will likely be brewed with recycled piss!! Enjoy your cup dude!! :D LOL
I always have coffee while watching radar, everybody knows that!
Excellent stuff bro, I’ll go
I'm excited to see the advancement s in 3D printing
The equator solar panel idea predates the meltdown. Also, yes, you can "beam" energy back down.
yes you can beam power back down, but it is not very efficient the solar panels themselves are not very efficient either. plus it may also ruin the natural beauty of the moon. it would also still take lots of time, resources, money, etc to construct. by the time it is build we probably would of solved things like nuclear fusion.
@@goldenbananas1389 yeah, it kinda looks like early concepts for human flight, with guys on bikes flapping wings like crazy or the poor guy who jumped of the Eiffel tower with his "wings", ending with a predicable result!! :(
The moon is a stepping point I would love to make it there and live
Better smarten yourself up first. Early explorers will have skills needed, maybe PhD's (especially geology, physics, astronomy) or M.D.'s (in case your appendix bursts on the moon), or mining experience (that would be an easy route)! Good luck!
Asking the right questions I hear..
Moon Canada sounds awesome!!!
Great video
Nice looking rocket there at 7:39! It takes Bezo's to a whole other level!! 😂
55 to 60K is cold enough for superconductors so just dig some trenches for the cables and maybe you could wire it all up with no losses :D
Good ideas. Al others aspects have to be considered.
Nasa using Orion to dock with starship HLS is like taking your bicycle 90% of your roadtrip to get your lamborgini tour bus for the last 10%
Update (Ref 8:40): Recent studies released by NIST state there ARE in fact rare elements worthy of investing in mining operations. On Sep 8th 2022, China announced successfully harvesting Helium-3. This was big news, not only for the fusion design community, but also because it had been theorized for decades that the lunar surface - without atmosphere - makes it a perfect breeding ground for elements like Helium-3 difficult to locate or synthesis on earth. Thus, justifying lunar mining investment long term. Still, great video!
'Human Protection' from the space atmosphere was the intentions of the Boring company. Appreciated.
This content is great
Let’s get this done
5:17 LOL 😂 solar flares 🙏🤣
7:43: That is you Gingey
5:23: That’s Mercury. Milky Way Mercury.
Isn't there a bunch of helium 3 up there, which can be used as a power source?
Solar ring sounds good with nuclear and also, a dome village to support a colony of 1000 people to start. A large orbiting outpost to hold at least 100 people would be good too. Setting up green houses on the surface to grow plants and good would be good also!
If you have the industrial capacity to build something as preposterous as a ring of solar panels around the moon, and the astronomical budget to afford that project - then you have the capacity to build a hundred times as many on Earth instead, complete with battery plants.
Loved the video, but that was a very, very nonsensical point..
Suggest a rotating outer shell for reentry to dispute to heat on reentry
"Dissapate"
The Moon actually does have something we need on Earth. Helium 3!
Adding mass to the moon must be compensated by removing other mass, otherwise, the delivate moon orbit might be offset by the added mass used in building projects.
glad to see tien’s solar flare lol
An interesting fact about being on the moon, is that the Earth appears stationary in the lunar Sky relative to your position on the lunar surface. This is because the Moon is phase locked with the Earth, this means the same side is always facing us. The phases of the moon are the day and night cycle, which lasts about 30 days.
29.5 days.
which is not relevent. even for navigation.
@@jessepollard7132 navigation in space is accomplished using an astrolabe.
It's more so tidal locking rather than phase locking.
@@Paul_Bearden Navigation on the moon would be by using a lunar GPS.
@12:05 While building observatories on the moon might seem like a good idea, its *not* as good as building them at the L2, L3, L4 and L5 *Lagrange* points, pointing them away from the sun, (the *elephant in the **_sky,_* as it were.)
plus no cold traps on the far side, they're all at the poles I think.
Yeah but if you can build it from moon materials you make them so much larger
While the Lagrange point definitely is a better vantage point, if anything should go wrong and can't be remotely repaired, the whole project JWST would be scrapped. We would not travel there to repair it. On the other hand, a moon observatory could be reached and maintained.
I hope that they name it Moonbase Alpha.
imagine in the future and you look up and see lights on the moon
I have my doubts that the lights coming from any moon city would out shine the reflected sunlight. And the lights from cities on the dark side would simply be out of sight .
@@MolloRelax what if its a new moon and not a full moon
@@marstheplanet477 whenever I look at a new moon light sliver..it's always really close to the horizon .I believe this observable phenomenon would be applicable to every observer. ...no matter where they observe it from. And whenever you see a big part of the Moon during daylight it would be too bright to observe any light coming from it. I believe the only time you could see a City Light from the Moon would be during a full moon eclipse in my opinion
@@MolloRelax ok
It has always been our destiny (from the first time beings lifted their eyes to gaze into the heavens) to travel into space. With all the fits and starts of the space program it looks as we may have a chance! Doesn’t it make more sense to focus our energies off earth than to do the alternative … finding better ways to kill each other and destroy all we have struggled to create!
@The Richest Man In Babylon We could always stop making weapons systems to kill each other and use .1% of the money we save to make our species multi-planetary?
@The Richest Man In Babylon the us military spent 2 trillion making craters in the mode East for 2 decades and NASA has only been allocated 20 billion a year
Don't worry, we will also start killing people in outer space eventually. To think otherwise would be somewhat naive...
@@RestrictedHades Yeah, interestingly, I heard, at the time, that the whole Apollo project was funded for a total of 20 billion, back in the sixties. Many a Senator howled, on TV, at that then, calling it a "boon doggel" and better spent on "the poor people of Earth". Now, since then, we've spent trillions on the poor and nothing has changed for their "improvement", since we first landed on the moon in 1969. In fact there are more "homeless" now (we just called them hobos or bums then). But, because of space spending then, we now have mini computers (aka your phone) and Corning Ware to cook in; just to name a few "spin offs" from Apollo!! Interesting perspective on gov't spending huh?
I wonder is musk thinking of putting a future version of the Star-link satellite 🛰 in lunar orbit especially on the dark side of the moon? Mars as well
what if the base has been there for many years already and we are just taking more supplies to add on??
I think that the first two things we need to build are a lunar space station and a lunar cycler. The lunar cycler would be on a fixed orbit around earth and the moon, so a lunar mission only needs to escape earth’s gravity and the moon’s.
After leaving earth’s atmosphere, the spacecraft docks with the cycler and ride it to the moon. Once at the moon, it undocks from the cycler and enters lunar orbit. At this point, it docks with the lunar space station. This would allow for extended stays on/around the moon. After a certain length of time they undock from the space station and catch the cycler back to earth.
The transportation between the lunar station and the surface would require very little fuel; which can be produced in situ on the moon. So all we really need is enough fuel to escape earth. That allows for larger payloads to ship stuff to the moon.
We could then use the moon as a testing ground for the technology we would need for things like Mars colonization.
Once SpaceX gets Starlink up and running it will generate billions of extra revenue that will be put back into engineering and production for space.
Sounds good, like NASA's lunar orbit strategy of the late 1960's: Blast from Earth to orbit, blast out of obit to the moon, achieve lunar orbit, descend from lunar orbit to the moon, ascend from the moon back to lunar orbit, blast from the moon back to Earth, splash down in Earth's oceans. Was easy peasy, for all 6 American moon landings in 1969-1972!! Even Apollo 13 did it, w/o the landing of course! :D LOL
I expect to see an AWS datacenter offering Lunar Glacier archives.
a more stable seed bank.
Small modular nuclear reactor on the moon coupled to a lunar visible light observatory.
"The Expanse" is how I see our future. I have no doubt.
Came to think of it...im a noob but...if we mine on the Moon and we reduce its mass, what exactly does it mean in long terms?
I mean, yea there r not enough worthy things to really reduce mass of it.
But what if o.O
Perhaps something like a subterranean super shaft with a 10km Radius going down as deep as temperature gradients would allow and fitted out a flexible lens/accordion type floor levels that self regulate air pressure.. Fill the lower section with water for an ocean to mimic our Earth's deep ocean floor. Delegate different levels for different purposes. Perhaps light the place with glass fibre optics with collection points scattered around the surface for 24/7 light and whalllaaa! Home sweet home with a bit less gravity.. :) Prawn sandwiches from the ocean and maybe even a little grain from one of the other levels.. That'd be exciting.. :)
not light 24/7 - there would always be at least 14 days of darkness.
@@jessepollard7132 Not if you have collecting nodes around the surface as like the Solar cell concept but just for light to reduce the load on the power draw. It's fibre so it can be laid between nodes. :)
@@Murry_Rhodes Still a problem getting the fiber. And small fibers won't carry the amount of light you want.
@@Murry_Rhodes Doesn't work that way, you have to focus the incoming light onto a fiber and it won't take it very well. YOu also need the lenses.
@@jessepollard7132 Maybe the although the purity of the glass these days seems to have a refractive index that can sustain a global digital network for sending information which is in the form of light so the amount of light lost will be determined by the index or purity of the glass and yes of course you need lenses like concave dishes at each node to harvest and focus the light to maximise as we do with some solar arrays. I didn't mean just chuck a few cables around and hope some light gets collected also on this scale if you got the glass purity right you could increase the diameter of the fibre to carry more but then only I don't think that research would be worth the outcome unless is meant preserving some frequencies as the bigger downfall with this is the filtration that may occur of some frequencies that may be useful say in processes like photosynthesis for any agricultural projects.. It fun to hypothesise Cheers :)
Using a mixture of gallium’ aluminum’ and water, all can be found and liberated from the surface of the moon, to make hydrogen using the Grotthuss mechanism with very little power output. Also, after the reaction of the aluminum two the gallium and water the gallium is available for reuse.
Earlier i thought that security things was going to be a sponsorship.
Stadium lights should be used on this dark parts of the moon. This lights are very bright
Wait til they start putting advertising on the surface... then rake in the money.
Can you do a video on if spacex will have their own Astronauts or if they will be nasa astronouts for Mars?
Pretty confident they will be NASA astronauts exclusively for quite a while. NASA have the training programs that actually develop astronauts. Though we might see NASA astronauts wearing SpaceX suits at some point!
most likely a combination.
@@TheSpaceRaceYT NASA astronauts get trained by SpaceX before they leave on crew dragon.
Right, there will be many combinations, with special training before they go, by whomever is the lead on vehicles used. Even Apollo had non-military astronauts as well as mostly military (active and retired) and a PhD in Geology (Harrison Schmitt) on Apollo 17. Key is they will be very smart folks; no "goombahs", who just think it would be neat to go, need apply!! So, kiddies, stop texting, gaming, and generally goofing off, and learn something useful for a career in space!! :D
i feel like securing a building to the surface would be quite hard bc of the gravity
Don't forget JFK's (Sorensen's) speech. It's not hard. It's bloody impossible.
This sounds like its a simple task, but the complexity of establishing any kind of human residency anywhere other than Earth is an enormous undertaking, and more expensive than can be imagined. We havent even scratched the surface of solving the problems of living long term in Space.
no - the cost CAN be imagined - just by accounting for the building costs, and adding the support costs.
OH, and the contstruction costs can be estimeated from what is expended on Earth digging mines and tunnels.
Actually we have - people living on ISS for over a year in zero G.
SpaceX will be a 50 billion per year revenue company by 2030 and that will be directed to building space infrastructure.
The key to colonizing the moon is the fact it can be a launch base for enormous craft that can fly in space.
We will see space stations that can travel around in space.
Beaming energy using lasers actually sounds like a terrible idea for many reasons. The first one is the sheer amount of inefficiencies introduced in the system. The second one is that you need to realize what beaming Terawatts of energy with lasers actually looks like. It looks exactly like the name implies, gigantic lasers operating at terawatts of power, it's negligently dangerous and that's IF things go the way you want them to go to receive enough power on the other end. Focusing this much energy on a small area would be massively challenging if feasible and incredibly dangerous if achievable.
However; "inefficiency" already means "of or relating to being inefficient" = "inefficiencies" is an inefficient~redundant double conjugation. A faulty conjugation formed by those who breathe through their mouth, they overuse the suffix "s" as means to facilitate this vile~destructive misuse of the mouth.
@@linyenchin6773 You are actually wrong, inefficiencies is just a comon conjugation of the noun ''inefficiency'', as in multiple instances of inefficiency, which is exactly what I meant when I said it. Is there any point to your bullshit or do you simply want to be unnecessarily and erroneously pedantic without engaging with the argument?
Not to mention putting Earth in a microwave heater.
Fair and righterous efforts toward space explorations would be the direction of the U.N. space justice council, with faith. Appreciate all sincere considerations with trust.
Sorry, UN has no funding for such a thing, and the inability to levy taxes makes it impossible.
@@jessepollard7132 Uncles are providing funds for U.N. It would be over than 40~60% of annual budget probably. Appreciated.
@@myungsukim Still not enough. They have to have some form of enforcement capability. And the UN is not setup for that. currently it is by donation.
@@jessepollard7132 What form would be the best environment?
Someone beat me to the comment section.... DAMN!
We will have to all wear lead boots and cuffs to slow down the affects of the lack of earth like gravity on the bones and all .
@9:00 Ever heard of *_Helium-3?_* (It's too cold for it to just escape from the regolith.) Sorry, but there are _lots_ of *_valuable_** mineral resources* on the moon.
Yes, but extracting it is hard.
sNo it isn't. it is only in the regolith due to impact from the solar wind.
NOt so much cold as being trapped inside. the regolith reaches 260F during the day. so it is plenty warm enough to escape.
4:38: That is 6C. It’s receiving those from Metal-Plastic who want to go to the Crayon Moon.
Good video - but you forgot Helium at the moon for fusion energy at earth. The idea to lay a rocket down and cover it with Regolith was good, and robots to work is good too. IF we do it, we can in the year 2100 (or 2200) know how to make bases at planets and we will know the price. Maybe we could use this knowledge on Mars, but more proberly we find out, that it will be too expensive and at that time robots will be so advanced, that we dont need humans at Mars.
That is a future development but in the short to medium term it is not so much of an issue.
Would love to see a moon base alpha ...
So would l but I'm not betting on it.
The base is Already up there!! That’s one of the reasons we don’t go there. Don’t kid ourselves..it’s already there.
Really forgot the fact that if we can make earth another place to put people also from mining considering the fact that at least mining the moon to some degree would not harm the Earth.
Obviously we wouldn't want to mine at hollow however a few million tons wouldn't change things too much.
I think this video is good but how about this approach. Send robots to build, and make a factory's there to recycle water, garden domes. Then send robots to Titan to see what kind of resources to use to live their without space suites. I sure at one point the atmosphere is breathable. Make it a mining colony and make large spaceships, recycle water, farms, animals, fish farming. We would have to bring a lot of these things with us to start. Maybe we could build Stucco homes?
I don't see the harm in moving industry off planet, but do see the harm in saying that you aren't allowed to own property in space.
Onward and forward
As long as space agencies need each other, there will be cooperation. When that is no longer the case, everybody will be for themselves. Secret agendas from all players are already in place.
I think this would be a good test for a moon base, also Artemis should join with the Russia china moon base, we don’t want a cold war
moon wars are inevitable , were humans for gods sake ..its all we do , mate spawn fight and die ..yarrrrr there's a reason military spending is at an all time high .
@@MyKharli I said good idea, not “it’s not going to happen”
@@Mark-eb2jc sadly or gladly, take your pick, we humans are predators, not sheep, that's why we are fearless to do things like explore an unbelievable hostile environment like space. No soy boys will go, but alpha males will and some really hot "manly chicks" too!! Some very wild humping in low gravity to come boys!! :D LOL
Imagine being one of the first people to go to the moon in 5 decades, only to do manual labor on your trip.
Like these are scientists with PHDs, and we're giving them a shovel and a spacesuit
It is important to establish a lunar outpost. Gathered Science will help developers to design vessels for deeper space exploration, mining industry, construction industry. The time to do It is now and soonest. Humankind has to find new ways to generate energy. Solar energy becomes impractical furder out from the sun.
He3 is rare as hell on earth. It’s almost common on the moon.
The moon is the logical staging point to do asteroid mining
but asteroid mining is illogical lol
@@MyKharlido tell?
@@MyKharli
Not if the goal is to develop in space. There is no reason why an asteroid could not be mined for 1000 tons of an extremely rare element that could easily be sent back down to ground.
They there is the fact that low gravity manufacturing will create a whole new class of materials that can be sent down to earth.
4:10: That’s us but those are for yogurt making and not space crafts?!