How SpaceX and NASA Plan To Colonize The Moon!
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- How SpaceX and Nasa Plan To Colonize The Moon! Today on the Space Race we're looking at SpaceX and NASA plans to colonize the moon. We're covering news, updates, and more from SpaceX and NASA, let's dive into why we need to colonize the moon and how we can build a moon base.
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What year do you think we’ll establish a permanent presence on the moon by?
2030 no sweat
1987
Should be by ‘25.
Hopefully not as late as ‘30.
2025
Guys realize the sls ain't gonna be ready until 2025 and no way starship will be human rated until it has at least like 50 flights so...
Also imagine how great a moon-based telescope would be without an atmosphere.
Almost as good as a space-based telescope.
Yes, and 10 times bigger because it would weigh much less.
You could build on the moon easier than in space where your limited to the size of rocket
There is talk of the construction of a radio telescope on the far side of the moon, free from interference from the earth.
@@TheAmericanCatholic if the telescope is too big it can just be taken to into space in multiple different trips
Another major advantage of the Moon over Mars is that it's actually closer to the asteroid belt and the rest of the solar system if you're measuring in delta V. Despite the physical distances, it's cheaper to launch to pretty much anywhere from the moon due to the lack of atmosphere and lower gravity. The Moon is a natural dockyard for a spacefaring Earth.
Yes if we do become a spacefaring species, the moon will be by far the largest spaceport in the solar system. It is ideal for that purpose.
@@daviddempster402 I truely believe I might actually get to visit the moon someday :)
I absolutely agree. Smaller gravity well, no atmosphere, almost immediate communication, quick exchange of vital resources for economic benefit, plus a relatively local platform for training, to name but a few, makes it an ideal spot, not to be squandered through apathy. Creating a relatively simple mass-driver on it's surface is more than within our present capabilities also, making it practical for launching high volume materiel to lunar orbit. More than worth the initial investment.
You know I never thought of that but that makes perfect sense, if we get to the point where we are harvesting all our rocket fuel and rocket building materials, from the moon, we can then send some crazy shit into space not having an atmosphere to fight. It's genius, man it's stuff like this that makes you want to live forever.
Its so great it took them 50 yrs to try to go back..........thats because its all bulls^%$.
I love how you call Bezos, Lex Luther...hilarious
Personally, i went for Mr Burns ...
he reminds me more of the guy from the movie contact
I still like his idea of building space habits. (O'Neil cylinders) 👍
agreed
@@robertevans6218 mr. Hadden
Love this channel.. I'm not biased at all
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you guys sound kinda similar you know
Lol me either 🧐😏😉
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You're not the only one, I love both of your channels 😉😂
Personally what I believe is if we're really going to expand to multiple planets the first thing and most important that we need to establish is an orbital shipyard in order to firmly establish a consistent and reliable logistics system. From here we can build entire colony ships or construction ships to send materials for building outposts or gateways around each planet that we plan to reach
Yes much of the heavy manufacturing will be done in space, with metal that is mined and refined on the moon. The Air, water, and food to support these facilities will also come from the moon.
@@daviddempster402 this is why I don't believe Ellen musk's mars plan will work. The lack of logistics once reaching to Mars will make it extremely hard to resupply the Mars base with valuable resources that cannot be found on Mars
Exactly. You could think of our current spaceships as building galleons in landlocked areas, then moving them all the way out to the ocean.
That being said, an orbital shipyard would be hell to build given the constant need to ship resources out to the base itself, defeating the purpose of having one in the first place.
A moon base is the next best thing.
Anyone read Heinlein's book "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"? We build a lunar bases(s) and solar powered rail guns and shoot supplies at Mars as well as at a few strategic points in the asteroids to build drones and smelting facilities.
@@josephpascoe7540 problem with firing materials to a planet is there no way to slow it down. If your shooting it at a planet that means the best thing to do is aim for a direct hit meaning it's like firing a meteorite, that is if the materials survive planet fall. We all know the deviation that can cause on Earth. Great idea but for such a large operation like space you really need to consider the side effects of all your actions no matter how small because a simple action can have severe consequences down the line
Thats why love the show "For All Mankind" imagine how advanced our society would of ben if we would of continued to go to the moon all the way till the 90s and the 2010s
At the time of Apollo science pundits predicted we would be shuttling tourists to and from the moon routinely by the year 2000.
@@leonardgibney2997 They also didn't expect the enthusiasm for space to drop off so steeply. Had it stayed at its original intensity and gotten better over time we definitely could've at least been well on our way to that by 2010-2015 depending on how much research and time went into the advancement of the tech needed to perform such a feat. And if that logic holds sound (which, I will admit, it may not, I'm thinking on the fly here) then we absolutely could've been ferrying people back and forth between earth and the moon by now. But, of course, people became desensitized to the idea of space travel and thought it would be smarter to solve all of our problems here before we went out there... I don't think I have to explain to anyone with more than half of a tardigrades IQ how stupid a decision that was (no hate intended if any was seen, I'm just after a debate to try and expand my knowledge of these things)
@@leonardgibney2997 : Exactly. I was born in the mid 60s and grew up throughout the 70s and 80s and everyone was so, damn, certain that we would have achieved this much at least, by the end of the 20th century. Here we are now, two decades into the 21st century and still, no further ahead. Extremely sad and depressing. My Best. Out. 🙂🖐🏼
@@at-atwithcrocs1628 : I honestly, can't see why we can't do both. I've never understood why it has to be an either/or type of thing. My Best. Out. 🙂🖐🏼
@@ivanj.conway9919 I just think space flight is a bridge too far. Not to disparage the great achievements of NASA but in the cold light of day it just seems impossible to me how Apollo happened. NASA says it has moon rock brought back by the crews. That's solid evidence they were on the moon. But l struggle to understand how it happened if l examine it in detail. Too bloody dangerous.
A simple but good assesment. It is a shame this hasn't happened 40 years ago.
Blame the government. Social programs Trump scientific progress. 😑
It’s your own fault for blaming others, Bracey. No one wants to take responsibility, or promote the good of mankind over petty ideological squabbles.
@@commanderbracey7501 Or blame the people, it was the people that decided spaceflight was unnecessary due to all of our problems on earth and thinking they needed to be solved before we could go anywhere... without realizing working on becoming multiplanetary or at least having offworld colonies would solve a good number of them. Trump aint got nothin to do with this bud, I like him about as much as you but at least I place the blame where it's deserved
I dreamed of this as a kid too Brother. Waiting for it my entire life has been excruciating. So hope it all, happens before I die. My Best. Out. 😊🖐🏼
@@commanderbracey7501 : Seriously? Blame social programs again, rather than the trillions wasted on the military. Out.
The dark hole of the crater could be lit up with mirrors around the rim. This would provide continuous light and increase surface temperature for the base. As for starship it isn’t just the reusability, it will also be the greatly reduced cost and availability from mass production of hundreds to thousands of rocket ships.
Yes the mirrors would most likely be Mylar, and they would likely be strung between tall towers.
These towers would likely be formed by folding long ribbons of sheet steel into triangular cross sections and tack welding them.
They would also have to be protected from the ejecta debris from landing rockets.
We discuss this at length in our Facebook Group Colonize the Moon.
I really enjoyed your video - thanks. I’m looking forward to exploring your other videos.
The graphics and clear explanations will make you one of my ‘goto’ channels.
You think it's all a coincidence?
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Wow mate ... I thoroughly enjoyed your oration, narrative, and rational thinking. I am fully behind every word you spoke. A Coopers to you mate.
this may be your best video yet. well done.
Love your videos man!!! Keep it up!
Godspeed NASA & Space X, long live!
SLS: hi I’m like, a spaceship or something I guess.
Starship: I HAVE THE POWWAAAAARR!
Excellent presentation !
Well done !
What if Artemis was mounted to the top of Falcon with 4 boosters so that they could refuel stages 1 & 2 before they disconnected , with what they had left . You could also make the case for doing the same thing for Starship !
Hey your good thx for the info that noboudy relly ever talks about keep going
@11:15 And the rim of also the perfect place to put a permanent lunar base since it has a source of warmth. (It's more energy efficient *not* to have to keep an environment where the people would die if not constantly supplied with *a lot* of energy expended just keeping them above 0°K.)
Love the content!
young people are blessed because they will probably see the first time humans colonize the moon/mars. it will be so hype
I agree. We were born in the wrong century.
will we have to wear covid masks or can we just pack our covid passport
@@randylamont8269 I'm thinking both.
Just for a small correction .It will be the first time mankind land on the moon. Mars ? forget about it for now. SpaceX/NASA don't have the tech for Mars at this moment.
@@alberthenriette8976 agree, i am young but this is foolish they want to kill millions with the technology we have right now i also want to better the technology when i grow up but i hope they do enough experiments first at least that. With how much wiring a rocket has
His quote. To help get it up. End quote. Lol, but very informative and enjoyed the vid. Thanks for posting this vid of colonization.
We need to get there ASAP.
i love this second channel you should guys make more content like this
The Moon actually makes more sense for many of the reasons outlined in this video. Not only is it closer but it could likely end up being the logical waypoint for missions to Mars and the rest of the solar system. Many ideas have been proposed for developing the Moon, such as a giant telescope on the far side or other science experiments that would be easier and cheaper in the lower lunar gravity. What I find more interesting is the development of industry, mining and manufacturing. (Not to mention it will likely be a vacation destination for many.) The more technologies advance and become faster and easier--and cheaper-- to produce, the lower the costs of getting there and back. That was true of air flight in the early 20th century. And a decrease in launch costs and increase in rocket launches and reusable landings would mean opening the possibility of low orbit transcontinental flights that take you anywhere in the world in much less time than a conventional aircraft. Musk and other have already proposed such flights. It was also noted that lower gravity would make landing and launching from the surface easier and cheaper. I suspect that once we get there and set up bases and colonies and start mining and manufacturing facilities, we'll have a much better idea of what the Moon can support and what can (and cannot) be done there. It could very well make Mars missions easier and cheaper. And better to learn all these things closer to home than be stuck so far from home without any support system in place if and when something goes wrong. Establishing a Moon base and colony first would make that much more feasible. But we'll never know if we don't go there and find out. Research and development drives innovation and innovations lead to newer technologies and better solutions, like the development of new sources of rocket power and fuels that will be more powerful and less polluting that rockets. But without innovations and research we'd all still be in wooden sail boats crossing the ocean in months instead of days or, in the case of aircraft, hours. Who knows what newer and better technologies will be developed? I also suspect that it could improve life on Earth dramatically by moving much of heavy industry off the Earth and into space (such as Besos has proposed). Better to mine for metals on a dead rock than keep destroying the living habitats on Earth. Dead rocks in space are far more common than the precious life here on our rare-in-the-universe (so far as we know) living ball of dirt. It could be that having colonies and orbital stations around the Moon could end up facilitating missions to Mars, making them cheaper and more accessible. In the long run I believe it is a far better strategy to strive for spreading life throughout the galaxy than sitting here on this little rock until time runs out and the universe finds some way to put us out of our misery. Maybe seeding the galaxy with Earth life is a more noble legacy than polluting our planet and trying to blow it up.
WOW, thank you for this comment!
I must comment Space Race, for a logical simple presentation for space exploration.....Thank You!!!
Excellent stuff bro
Great job!!!
I love how we all collectively agreed that the super-rich Lizardman is the Lex Luthor of Earth 😂
So fascinating!!!
It's a great adventure and I am all for it.
They like to give the impression that we're all going, we're not.
Great video!
Artemis-1 launched on July 20 2022 which is Nasa's first step to colonize the moon "Here we are BACK to the moon AND BEYOND"
Great content!
It’ll definitely happen but as these things always take a lot more planning due to unforeseen setbacks I predict somewhere in the 2030s or towards the end of the 2020s in a year like 2028 or 2029! Their just isn’t enough ground work laid down yet for this huge feat to succeed in a single attempt!
It could be done much sooner honestly
@@arkhammemery4712 It could be done sooner, but it all depends on how much priority our governments and companies put on it. Our only hope for it to be done this decade is Musk tbh.
Smart to start on the moon, proof of concept will generate confidence in going to Mars
10:08 I snorted...hilarious!
A large telescope like the Webb but much bigger. Since the Webb is a combination of mirrors bring it up in parts and construct it.Awesome idea.
maybe temperature differences in lunar regolith could make electricity using TEGs that put the cold side down 90mm down for the cold side and use the sun on the hot side for the surface.
Actually the Moon could hold some entertainment industry features.
First: Low gravity. Perfect for things we can't do on Earth easily and cheap.
Second: If we can get it to be cheap, we're set.
Third: Low gravity is easily controlled with bungee cords
Fourth: 4 walls, all of them trampolines. You could go SUPER fast.
Fifth: It's small and in space. Long cords extending into space, relaxing.
Sixth: Water? You could shake a box of water with a person in it
Seventh: PARKOUR! And puzzles
Eighth: Idk
Great video
Excellent overview. I would add lunar lava tube habitats/camps. Lava tubes are there and US firms are developing robots to explore them. Lava tubes provide protection from radiation, meteors, and temperature changes. Also possible access to ice. Research reveals possibility of lunar hot magma for energy and heat. Finally, just doors with airlock can seal off a lava tube to live in. Much cheaper and easier to construct than proposed structures.
Yes, the lava tube caverns are the most important discovery on the Moon. They may not be airtight but are definitely shelter from micro meteorites and radiation. Also, water molecules may have accumulated in the deeper levels along with other elements. We have already noticed the temperature anomalies in some of these openings that are around 70 degrees F. Don't know if that is true or not?
We can't accidentally trash the lunar biosphere as there is no lunar biosphere. To me that's the best reason for 'moon first'.
I've seen the math worked out, and it actually takes more delta-v to get to the proposed orbit of the lunar gateway than is worth it.
The moon: mother nature's stepping stone for man from earth to other worlds.
Remember the look on Apollo astronauts when they were sitting together being asked questions about the "moon mission"😳😳
i've been in TSLA for 6 years..happy i did. I've ordered the S dual motor fsd while the tri motor fsd cybertruck gets here. i have lots of solar & backup battery to charge them both at home.. i also love SpaceX. we went to see it live last year from California to Texas Boca Chica. I was born in Raymondville btw.
Not gonna lie, im a little envious.
I love it when the ads come on. Why, why, why? Because I take out the ear buds, let the ads run and go get something to eat. Dat, dat , dat is what I do.
The lack of atmosphere and gravity make it easier to land but harder to stay. So it's kind of a wash with regard to engineering problems. Someone below mentioned the lack of atmosphere being great for a ground based moon telescope. So there are plenty of engineering issues made easier as well. I think a lot of people think going to and staying on the moon is easy at this point and that's just not the case. 5% were the odds that the Apollo 11 crew would come back alive. That was accounting for all the unknown variables and complexity of the vehicle, which had several system glitches and out right failures on mission. When every aspect of human life has to be accounted for an made to function artificially, the odds of survival plummet. It's amazing that NASA didn't lose anyone during the moon landings of the 1970's.
I agree 👍
I don't believe anyone thinks it's going to be easy, but rather that we are capable of succeeding regardless.
@@recycledwaste8737 He literally says it in this video lol.
As long as there is an area that is the correct temperature range for human life on the moon (in our terrarium) then we can always use the difference in temperature as a means of creating emergency.
i agree with you bro..
Is there any thought of using the Boring tunnel machine on the moon once an energy source is available.
Just wondering if the solar panels fitted with a thermal transfer system could send that heat down to the base to help keep it warm in the crater??? Food for thought anywho
I agree we should have been colonizing the moon decades ago and we have wasted all those years not researching how to live on the moon. Makes so much more sense to use the moon as a stepping stone and test-bed for future colonizing of Mars.
I always find it strange that Elon Musk never really mentions plans to go to the moon. It MUST be easier to colonise the moon and use it as a launch pad for mars than to try and go straight to mars from earth?
I think it’s because the moon is not sustainable. Mars is.
The moon could also support space tourism far more readily than Mars. It's conceivable that one could fit a Moon trip into a 3-week vacation. A day travel to the launch site. Maybe a couple days of prep at the launch site (preceded by extensive online prep), the launch and trip there--3 days. About a week on the Moon. 3 day return, plus a 1-day flight home from the launch site. I envision low-g recreation activities, such as man-powered flight inside the dome, low-g swimming pool, etc. in the resort, and then on the surface, moon-dune-buggies, guided excursions to historic moon sites, like the original Apollo sites (with areas roped off to preserve original footprints, flag, etc.). Also, a restaurant and casino, and private suites with a great view of the Earth. So this could be an economic activity that could help support development of a permanent base on the moon. And if an emergency develops, it will always be more likely to come in time with the Earth only three days away--and probably a constant shuttle of transports back and forth.
You are so Right
Awesome
Leave that precious little moon alone! It didn't hurt nobody!
Build a Mining facility on the Moon, and a metal fabrication plant. Then manufacture building materials that can build huge space habitats that would be large enough to spin and create artificial gravity. I think they have to be built close to or more than 1 km in diameter or more to allow slow rotation that wouldn't hurt humans. The materials needed for radiation shielding are right on the moon as well. We don't have to worry so much about the mass of all these things because it is very easy to launch these materials into orbit.
To the moon 1st practice makes perfect
Without getting into the Moon v Mars thread, there are some points. Under cover but I doubt initially in a shadowed crater. Don't normally set up directly on top of your most important ore. Given Starship the actual pace of a base construction will be a lot faster then people think. I can see a continuously manned base by the end of the decade. From that point expansion should proceed at a fair pace. What it wont be in the near term is a refueling spot for exploration further out. However it should fairly quickly be able to provide the Oxygen for propellants. De-oxidizing the regolith is the first stage in using the regolith for in situ material utilization and will be a huge byproduct. Therefore the transit corridor from the Moon to Earth and back will have lunar fed oxygen depots and earth fed fuel depots at both ends.
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@@geniusvanadream People tend to forget that the lag time actually permits quite a bit of tele-operation of equipment. Therefore the 100 plus tons that Starship can drop becomes important. What that means is construction can proceed between manned missions.
Everyone has to put their Big-Boy pants on and Get a move-on on all this Space, Moon base/ Habitat, Mars Base & Habitat stuff!!
I would like to see us clean up some of the mess we have made of our space around the Earth before we go to the stars. Even now every launch adds to mess. I would like to see a plan to be more aware of housekeeping after the launch plus a way to clean up what is now circling around our heads.
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We, should name our Moon Base, Moon Base Alpha from Space 1999
I think a moon base is almost necessary before planning a Mars base.
1: The difference in distance between going to the moon vs going to Mars is about the same as the difference between going across the Brooklyn bridge vs going from New York to Chicago. Just the trip there would be one of the longest missions anyone has ever served in space, without the whole landing on Mars, and then coming back parts..
2: It would give us a sort of laboratory to test ideas on how to build a colony on another celestial object. If something goes wrong on the moon, the idea of sending a rescue mission is actually possible, while on Mars, it would be almost impossible to send any kind of help in a reasonable time.
It would give us some opportunity to test the affects of prolonged low gravity.. right now we only know the affects of 1G and 0G..
3: It will be much easier to launch supplies to Mars from a Moon base because of the lower gravity and lack of atmosphere. Also, we have the potential to create rocket fuel with material from the moon which could be beneficial for both costs and the environment on Earth.
That would be the best launch base for going to the Moon.
I feel like we will have a Moon base as the replacement to the ISS.
The problem with going to the Moon is money (ignoring the technical challenges).
Going the first time was only done because we were at war with the USSR.
Now there's no global conflict propelling the effort forward and it's purely a commercial venture, and therefore has to be cheap (cheap enough for the super rich to buy tickets or corporate research or NASA level budget to support it....which really isn't that much).
I hope we get to the Moon and Mars within 20 years!
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@@mohit5496 Russia too
Waiting for your next post like 😳
I'm on board!
He's right we were meant for space as half of us can't stand our neighbors lol👍🚀
New subscriber here,, I would like to see a video on your thoughts about a space elevator on the Moon and/or Mars. With the lower gravity would it be achievable sooner or now with our current technology? Where would it be located? Would it be owned by Space X or a government maybe? A space station on both, where ships could dock, with an elevator for decent/accent to the surface Maybe an emergency Starship on the surface of Mars/Moon for escape, but basically it'd he a shuttle between stations. So much less risk with not having to land. Plus the fuel savings from not launching. Everything up to the station, from the station to the ships, and then off to either destination, as orbits allow. What are your thoughts?
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This is an excerpt from my comment above.
One of the first lunar development projects will be a Lunar Sky Hook - Rotovator - Momentum Exchange Tether. The cable for this could be made with lunar materials like Basalt Fiber, or earth materials like Kevlar, or a combo, more likely.
Combined with a Nuclear Thermal Rocket, running on lunar ice would be ideal. Using momentum exchange tethers to pick-up and drop-off it's cargos would allow it maintain its own momentum and be truly massive. Over time it could grow to be a cislunar space station in it's own right.
Probably the most important thing to figure out with Moon Base Alpha is a small nuclear power plant. Solar will be used a lot too, but 24/7 baseload power will come from nuclear.
The lex luthor comment was great.
if you want to go into a deeper dive on the best course of action need to fully transition humanity off a planet dm me. Both Elon and Bezos only have half the solution, however, they are skipping a lot of the steps that are super important. The Starship is being used incorrectly which is really funny all things considered. And the moon plays almost the largest role in getting humanity into the stars. Its so sad that it doesn't get the attention it needs.
Love the videos, keep it up
Using the moon as starting point could also give a speed advantage. Easier refueling or topping up etc. I really see the benefits of such a base.
A lighter starship without heat tiles, since the Moon and Mars have almost none to no atmosphere, as real space ships and shuttle starships to make the earth runs for ppl and supplies.
mars have all the atmosphere we need to bleed of speed -speaking of speed, moons orbit is slover than leo
@@replica1052 Don't think the 0,6% atmosphere of Mars relative to earth will do much breaking.
Explain "slover than leo"
Anyway, 3,683 kilometers per hour (mach 3) is a nice starting speed, not?
@@countmorbid3187 you need a heat shield to land on mars - mars atmosphere is close to dense enough to hold liquid water.
low earth orbit has one orbit every 90minutes at +25000km/h
Yes. A maglev track in a circle with an aimed shoot-off track to where we need the package to go. Using this method (and ignoring the energy costs as energy is VASTLY easier to maintain than fuel) you can literally send a full starship from the moon and have it in earth orbit within 24 hours using significantly less fuel than would be required to launch that fuel tank from earth. This method for amazon packages can have it landing on your doorstep within HOURS if you could afford the fuel costs for a suicide burn at a dozen KM per second (this it was like per second it could achieve before using more fuel than if it was sent from earth to the moon). Anyways a lot of math I'd have to actually spend time doing again.
This guy is smart and realistic. The moon is step one for anything else in space.
I hope it all works out.
Could you jump from low moon orbit to the mood and not die assuming you have means of breathing or is gravity still way to high
The idea of refuelling a space ship in space is quite logical. The expenditure of fuel on a reduced weight vehicle would be quite economical.
When I see the golden arches on the moon, I'll go. Need my mc. coffee.
Subteranian tunnelling machine making habitats as it goes while extracting everything in it''s path, think of something like the Channel Tunnel machine making huge rings all sealed in lunar concrete panels.
like to see more of what the building living spaces
So funny when you said lex Luther with that picture of baldy.
The Moon should be used a rehearsal of sorts for colonizing other planets like Mars, obviously atmosphere and gravity will be different everywhere we venture, but just testing the waters of habiting planets that are technically unhabitable, should start with the Moon.
So when we go to Mars we already have a rough idea of what is the most efficient and effective way of colonizing inhabitable places in the solar systems.
We dont want to get to Mars and be playing trail and error.
Not to mention the benefits of having a Lunar colony in terms of mining minerals, refueling spacecraft etc.
Do we have the moons caves mapped? After setting up in Shackelton we locate large cave systems & bore down to them. We use mined materials, from asteroids too, creating a reinforced secure habitat. Learn & repeat on other planets & moons.
How fast can we accelerate, how do we increase our speeds to go & stop? huge flywheel?
We ought to support synchronized deployments to Moon Mars Titian & space stations in geosynchronous orbit centered on the dark side of the planets & larger moons. Use multiple independent yet coordinated groups, agencies & corporate.
Not so much raw or even uniquely processed as much as manufactured & finished goods. That volume ought to be doable.
Yo maybe a solution for, the dark side near the colony, is solar space balloons (that would be the foundation of an elevator) and would extend until they reached a pnt of sunlight, or beam the energy back down!
No one ever made sweet love on the moon
You mentioned that disposable rockets might have been acceptable in 2011, but not now. However, DC-X demonstrated a reusable rocket in 1993, and there was also the shuttle program operating since 1981 of course. NASA has actually slid backwards in technology 30-40 years if disposable rockets, like SLS, is really the best they can do.
What would the effect of colonizing the moon be on earth? Would having life on the moon change it’s atmosphere and other properties that could potentially effect earth?
Very good question.
Every bit of extra land area we have to work with means that much less of a reason to limit the growth of the population. If we can unlock the moon, mars, and other planetary bodies, then we unlock vast swathes of land area, and potential for population growth expands dramatically!
Honestly no idea how we have not gone back to the moon in so long. We did it with the computing power of a calculator in the 60s. Now we have more computing in phones, how can we not get back and forth from the moon with ease? Get a bigger newer space station around earth to launch from to get to the moon. Short range needed to get to station, then more efficient vehicles to get to the moon and back. Ahh you covered that. Guess I need to see what we are actually doing in space now.
It is pretty easy to survive on Mars. Just ask Matt. He survived there for like a year.
We need to build a colony! Launches would be much easier from the moon!
Agreed.
The only way to establish permanent bases on the moon, is going to be to send some tunnel boring machines (TBMs) to the moon. Those would be used to cut precise tunnels into, and below the moon's surface, deep enough to provide needed protection from cosmic, and solar radiation, as well as from micro meteor impactors. Once tunnels are cut, habitation modules can then be installed. The tunnels will also provide a backup means of preventing, or minimizing module decompression. For the next 25 to 50 years, that's the only way you'll be able to colonize the moon.
‘Colonize’ is an interesting choice
Yeah-yeah-yeah, this is all well and good but when can we expect Pluto Nash to open up his lunar nightclub??
First thing they will need to do is set up industrial plants, probably using robotics rather than actual feet on the lunar ground. They will need to be able to smelt metals and extract minerals and chemicals from first the regolith and then the bedrock to have any chance of long term viability, pretty sure Elon will have a smart strategy for all of that already.
It might sound kludgy to have to refuel Starship on orbit before going anywhere, but the ability of Starship to launch over 100 tons of cargo off the Earth is (or will be) unprecedented. The plan is to have depot Starships on orbit that have been refuelled before the lunar Starship gets launched. So it only needs to refuel once then off to the Moon with 100 tons of stuff for the lunar colony.
After watching the movie the time macheen had me concerned about liner over minning could distroy the earth as well as the moon