I was wondering that too,or specifically where exactly in that God forsaken ditch is most advantageous for surviving a rescue hold out,like when (Shackleton left the boys on that sprig of a rock up in the Arctic)back to the Earthly realm.
@@Preciouspink Shackleton! I had forgotten that heretic tale of survivable.. That's the kind of people who should be in the first few ships. . Elon Musk should advertise for people of acton who want low pay, great danger, adventure and a high chance of dying .
Caves... There should be all kinds of caves throughout the valley regions . Both "Karst" caves and sea-caves should exist in abundance , but it could be quite challenging to find them without extensive surveys and exploration of the promising terrains . 🤓
I've been pointing out the Valles Marinares as a good spot for over a decade. Radiation and meteor strikes will be the biggest dangers for humans on Mars. Being down in these canyons will provide essential natural protection for any base, building into the wall itself might also be possible? Then you have a best spot example for any attempts to propagate plants or experiment with water etc. Nice they found water-ice near these locations, that is a huge bit of good luck 👍
You've been pointing it out? Or you are parroting what someone else pointed out? They didn't find ice near it, They speculate there could be small amounts of ice under the crust after recent scans. No where near the volume which could be extracted on mass. The only place they can do that is at the poles. Also, plants won't grow there. Not unless you are going to bring all the soil from Earth too
Hydroponics and vertical plant farming. The only issue is maintaining and controlling temperature and internal atmosphere in the Mars food growing terrariums. That will require electrical power. Being it's a closed system everything is recycled. So you will need a few tons of chemical nutrients and enough water to start with.
Ya too bad the govt is no longer of by and for the people.Its an oligarchy deep state machine that wants to fund endless wars and man made viruses so the companys who produce war machines and vaccines can profit off of tax dollars that are printed out of thin air and added to the ridiculous national debt.
winds on the flat plains blow away all the regolith, leaving a thin veneer behind... while in the deep channels, you have thick dunes of regolith, and regolith is best for 3d printing radiation protection over habitats.
Glacial ice is all speculation. Won't know till actual drill cores are conducted. Possible yes, probable , maybe. Known , totally unknown at the moment.
*Only colony* Even the earth become trough climate change more inhabitable, it will take much more time until people rather would live on the mars than on the earth
How wonderful it will be when we take over Mars and transform the whole planet into a second Earth--green, breathable, self-sustaining. Something to live for. I'm 66. I've decided to live to 300,. It's what gets me out of bed in the morning. Well, that and my need to pee.
Great Video !!! Love it! A whole new World to Develop! I have Vizulized A half dozen large bases and rocket ports. A few Huge cities all connected by hyperloops. A gatway space station and a Satellite constellation network around the whole planet .👍
@@geradkavanagh8240 When there is no or little atmosphere, heat transport through conduction and convection is very limited. At least the Marsian will keep a cool head. Like Mercedes Benz had it as philosophy: Warm feet and cool head
wouldn't the deep canyons also offer up protection against cosmic/solar radiation? Like meteors, radiation that hits at and angle would be absorbed by the canyon walls, only radiation hitting close to 90 degrees would get through, which would, in my estimation, be a considerable reduction.
@@aienthusiast618 I get that, it is not totally off, but the video title pretty clearly made me expect some actual plans from NASA: "This is where NASA _will_ build the first Mars colony!"
@@NicoA47you don't really pay much attention or follow space x or nasa news do you does Elon musk ring a bell or are you just deliberately ignoring him so you can put your pointless point across 🤔
Where is NASA going to come up with all this money for these Martian projects? As a near bankrupt nation, we don't have the money to take care of the crumbling infrastructure on Earth and we are going to colonize Mars?
@@MagicToenailThe United States is on the verge of bankruptcy. Europe is no better financially. Europe for the last century has depended on the United States for major financial assistance. If and when the United States goes under, so does Europe! If anyone who might colonize Mars it will be China, not the United States! The U.S. can't afford to repair or rebuild our deteriorating major infrastructure, so how are we going to afford to colonize Mars?
At 4:31 he says Mars never had plate tectonics, but at 5:16 he says tectonic activity was one of the likely causes of something or other. Either he is inconsistent or I still don't understand plate tectonics.
A luxury timeshare condo built in near the top of the canyon wall with a big picture window overlooking the Valles Marinares is my dream vacation spot.
NASA's plan to colonize Mars?! LMAO That's a good one. NASA can't get out of its own cost plus rut! If anyone at all can colonize mars, it will be Space X !
Yup, soon as they get to get it to stop blowing up, RUD'ing, and burning up on reentry. Yup they got this, for sure!! That's a good one!!!! LOL LOL LOL :D
We won't see man set foot on Mars in our lifetime, perhaps in 200 years. I believe that all efforts will be on the moon, especially if China manages to create a colony first.
You're right that it isn't /’mɛ.sə/ -- but it also isn't quite /ˈmeɪ.sə/. The initial vowel is steady, not a dipthong as in "pay." Not the vowel in "met" and not the vowel(s) in "may." This assumes we're talking about Spanish pronunciation.
@@diegoflores9237 You don’t think so? Hmm.. I think so. It will happen if they can get those androids working really well and make a huge ship. Why not? Send a bunch of robots to prep. Send equipment and supplies then go. Some are really serious about this and have the resources to do it. Well time will tell.
I've brought up for a very long time about tunneling into mountains or hills then tunneling below also to help alleviate micro-gravity, etc. And, etc and etc
only concern I might have with settling the noctis labyrinth might be the potential landslides of gigantic proportions, aside from that catastrophic point of failure it looks like a perfect place to settle
The canyon and lava tubes are potentially good places to start a colony. They would provide some protection and some resources that will be needed to survive. Also human activity will create a thicker atmosphere, which would maximize the potential for these locations.
Covered habitats will need their own atmospheres. It's unlikely that there will ever be a planet-wide dense atmosphere since the frozen CO2 covering the polar water ice is only a few metres deep. Vaporising all of it wouldn't double the present atmospheric pressure.
Even if activities produced gases to. Oldster the thin Martian atmosphere, it would sooner or later be blown away by the solar wind, since Mars does not have a magnetic field.
Musk won't get what he wants...there's no way the US govt will just let him just build his own independent Mars Epstein Island as the 1st colony on the planet.
42:50 As an American in Japan, this cicada "scare" is hilarious. It's far worse than that in Japan every summer. So hearing that people are contacting 911, I burst out laughing. 😂 I would love to hear their reasons for contacting 911, what threat to life and property they thought was happening, and what they expected emergency services to do about it. Cicadas are actually a great thing for Nature. It a sudden burst of food for pretty much everything bigger than a cicada. I get it that they're extremely loud, and only get louder as the weather gets hotter, but in Japan, just like earthquakes, that's life.
There is in fact a LOT of water ice at mid latitudes also. More papers are coming out on this caldera complex. Fascinating location. Tons of water almost certainly, and probably some really interesting mineralization. I joked to one of the scientists who discovered this that it would be funny if there were enormous epithermal copper/silver/gold deposits around the ring fractures -- because no plate tectonics, so the same area of crust has remained over the hotspot for vastly longer than would be the case on Earth -- and he didn't object to the speculation. Said there's mineralization in the area that hasn't been characterized yet. Elevation is a little high as far as ease of landing while not making a crater.
Given the depth and increased atmospheric pressure, Valles Marinaris is probably the ideal place for a foothold permanent settlement. Air scavenger equipment won't have to work as hard. Pressure suits won't have to be overly engineered. Landing inside the valley may have to wait a bit until landings can be guaranteed within 1 kilometre of expected destination. I wonder what interesting geology will be uncovered then.
Good one, one of the best, with stunning imagery. I knew about the Mariner probe to Mars so many decades ago but did not know the massive canyon was named after it, a good tid bit of knowledge. Yeah, looks like a good place to go if we do in near or long term. But for me now too old, so it is only an "interesting thing". Sort of like knowing there are tigers and polar bears in wilds of this planet. I will never see them but glad we still have them, for now. Same with Mars, a nice place to visit maybe, plant a flag and get back home. Like the moon was too, decades ago. Good place for adventurous souls who may want to make a quick buck, mining or something to do with space science, and get home to spend it. See the great old sci fi movie "Outland" starring Sean Connery in a non-007 James Bond role for an example of that, on, I think, the Jupiter moon Io, where he was the local "sheriff" in town/colony!! Cheers! :D
3:00 "Chaos terrain is unique to Mars and other alien worlds." You need to look up the difinition of the word 'unique'. Never mind, I'll save you the trouble, it means 'one of a kind'. There's no such thing as 'very unique' and certainly not 'unique to several different places'. It's not that difficult a word to understand, it's surprising how many people seem to have trouble with it.
So let's get this straight, we can't live on this planet, that is already set up for us, with an abundance of everything we need to survive, but we're going to travel millions of kilometres to live on a planet that can't support life? Okay wise guy, what's next?
Way to miss the point. Mars is a contingency against human extinction. Currently, all of our eggs are in one basket. Should an asteroid or other catastrophe befall the Earth, I, for one, would like to have another place to cradle Humanity.
You are right. The purpose of going to Mars is the drive it will give to science. And it’s the only place, other than tiny nearby asteroids and the tiny moons of Mars that we can actually go. The moons of Jupiter are too far away, so maybe in 2200 if we figure out a better propulsion system. Venus is too hot. That leaves Mars. We will only go a small number of times.
It’s “MAY-sahs,” not “MES-ses.” I was five minutes in before I realized it wasn’t a Canadian but an AI. They need to train them better so they don’t confuse the audience and make them click off.
No one's going to Mars. We can't even build a base on the moon. Building a simulation out in the Anarctic doesn't count, except in how to survive in harsh cold climates. Try building one out in a desert with little access to natural water, tonados, and dust storms. That'd be much more of a realistic test scenario. If keeping a base on the surface of such chaos is not possible, then learn to build underground, and how to keep the entrance clear for entry. If they can't manage any of that, they aren't going to be staying on Mars. Getting to Mars is another set of problems; and I doubt NASA has the ability to do so.
Yeah they're gonna build that colony in Minecraft at best. Human landing on Mars with current tech is basically impossible, extremely dangerous at best.
The best series of books on the colonization of Mars is by Kim Stanley Robinson: _'Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars.'_ Although it's science fiction it uses real science, and still holds up incredibly well thirty years after the first book....(1993)
This is one of the best videos you’ve made so far EXCEPT for the very disturbing “slide show“ whiteout transition effect used. It’s almost unwatchable and a real shame. You should re-edit with fade to black or just blend in transitions and re-upload. Seriously!!
Ive always said a canyon with a sheet of some sort of glass material would be better and cheaper then a domed city since I first got into outer space stuff. Be more easy mine right there then having to dig down a lot too.
@@jimidoodlesit can probably bounce off etc and that is still enough but at dawn and dusk it should be quite a bit better and we can dig into the canyon side and make a base like we have on earth
One correction, Mars is not completely inhospitable to life. Digging down a hundred to thousand feet or so and you have pressure, water, heat and everything else you need for life. If life exists at all on Mars (and I am in the camp that believes it does for reasons...) the best place to find it in abundance will be by taking core soil samples from drilling at depth. A layer of mud below a Martian glacier sitting atop a caldera is the perfect place for the Martian equivalent of a deep sea thermal vent. Given the optimal temperature and pressure ranges, some forms of complex life could even be supported thanks to the soil providing all the protections it would need from solar and cosmic radiation.
Pity about the appalling grammar. The most glaring example of this is the complete failure to use the present perfect tense correctly. In every case it was used the simple past tense should have been used. Why not use a good grammar checker?
I don't understand the inability of so many space enthusiasts, starting with Elon Musk, to perpetually NOT GET IT that human habitation of space will be in rotating space colonies.
They will eventually have a science outpost that will be perpetually manned with a few astronauts who rotate every 1-2 years. No one will live there permanently. At least not in this century.
In reality they will probably send robots 🤖 But not people . And since it would only take 80,000 years to get to Alpha Centaur face this Earth is home But I do love Science Fiction movies. LoL 😂
How about you drill or bore tunnels underground in mars and let humans stay in the tunnels. that would shield people from cosmic rays and would allow humans to pressurize the tunnels with air to replicate air pressure experienced on earth. in addition, it would be easier to expand colonies by drilling more ...
Nooooo! Olympus mons is the gateway to real work done in space. We must burrow into the side of Olympus mons. To get the most work done we need the most fuel up in space. Not using most of your fuel just to get into orbit or further. Mars gravity plus Lorentz force electromagnet assist from surface will eventually be deemed the best method for manned missions. Olympus is the prime candidate for this method.
The best idea is to dig a colony into the valley walls, or look for lava tubes. The area should be rich in minerals as well.
I was wondering that too,or specifically where exactly in that God forsaken ditch is most advantageous for surviving a rescue hold out,like when (Shackleton left the boys on that sprig of a rock up in the Arctic)back to the Earthly realm.
@@Preciouspink Shackleton! I had forgotten that heretic tale of survivable..
That's the kind of people who should be in the first few ships. .
Elon Musk should advertise for people of acton who want low pay, great danger, adventure and a high chance of dying .
Yea there’s probably all kinds of tunnels throughout. Can’t imagine the resources and stuff that could be found!
All of which are already occupied by the locals.
Caves...
There should be all kinds of caves throughout the valley regions .
Both "Karst" caves and sea-caves should exist in abundance , but it could be quite challenging to find them without extensive surveys and exploration of the promising terrains . 🤓
I've been pointing out the Valles Marinares as a good spot for over a decade. Radiation and meteor strikes will be the biggest dangers for humans on Mars. Being down in these canyons will provide essential natural protection for any base, building into the wall itself might also be possible? Then you have a best spot example for any attempts to propagate plants or experiment with water etc.
Nice they found water-ice near these locations, that is a huge bit of good luck 👍
You've been pointing it out? Or you are parroting what someone else pointed out?
They didn't find ice near it, They speculate there could be small amounts of ice under the crust after recent scans. No where near the volume which could be extracted on mass. The only place they can do that is at the poles.
Also, plants won't grow there. Not unless you are going to bring all the soil from Earth too
Hydroponics and vertical plant farming. The only issue is maintaining and controlling temperature and internal atmosphere in the Mars food growing terrariums. That will require electrical power. Being it's a closed system everything is recycled. So you will need a few tons of chemical nutrients and enough water to start with.
Ya too bad the govt is no longer of by and for the people.Its an oligarchy deep state machine that wants to fund endless wars and man made viruses so the companys who produce war machines and vaccines can profit off of tax dollars that are printed out of thin air and added to the ridiculous national debt.
And what about the locals?
@@Iliketheblacks you better wish you had 3 hands
winds on the flat plains blow away all the regolith, leaving a thin veneer behind... while in the deep channels, you have thick dunes of regolith, and regolith is best for 3d printing radiation protection over habitats.
Another thing I find fascinating is the proponderance of methane gas emitted from the surface at night. There just may be life underground.
Fuel ready to go.
The real tell tale gas would be hydrogen sulfide, which they've also found there
@@masteroutlaw100 Another tell tale gas. Yes. They are two peas in a pod. Methane and H2S. Both produced in anoxic environments.
I'm going to watch the video right now. Just want to say that I love your content. Here and on Tesla Space. Good stuff!!!!
Would be good to find a section that has a cave or lava tube.
I guess you read the Red Mars series as well?
Valles Marineris has about the same volume as the Mediterranean Sea.
Such an amazing goal!
We are going to need a different term to replace "sea level" when we get to Mars😅
Surface level, The average level of the whole surface.
I think there is already a scientific agreement on that. Just still mapping and refining the Datum as new missions arrive at Mars.
as Hector Pascale I suggest:
Mean Low Level (MLL) @ 1/100 of earth´s atm ~ 10 hPa
+ I vote for the metric system.
Thank you for this educational video. The deep canyons and buried glacier ice on Mars provides the best opportunities for humans first colony.
Glacial ice is all speculation. Won't know till actual drill cores are conducted. Possible yes, probable , maybe. Known , totally unknown at the moment.
*Only colony* Even the earth become trough climate change more inhabitable, it will take much more time until people rather would live on the mars than on the earth
How wonderful it will be when we take over Mars and transform the whole planet into a second Earth--green, breathable, self-sustaining. Something to live for. I'm 66. I've decided to live to 300,. It's what gets me out of bed in the morning. Well, that and my need to pee.
Makes great sci-if. Sadly, one third gravity means that’s all it will be
Great Video !!! Love it! A whole new World to Develop! I have Vizulized A half dozen large bases and rocket ports. A few Huge cities all connected by hyperloops. A gatway space station and a Satellite constellation network around the whole planet .👍
One problem with the temperature is that it is 20 degrees at the surface. With the atmosphere so thin the temperature could be 0 degrees at six foot.
Once you heat the ground underneath it will basically hold the temperature.
@@geradkavanagh8240 ?
@@geradkavanagh8240 When there is no or little atmosphere, heat transport through conduction and convection is very limited.
At least the Marsian will keep a cool head. Like Mercedes Benz had it as philosophy: Warm feet and cool head
@@hectorpascale1013 Noticed the 'pun' on your name. Do you ever feel under pressure?
@@geradkavanagh8240 Interesting approach for a psychoanalysis
😤 + 🧐 = 🤪
We have to call it Happy Valley (from the show for all mankind)
Those white reflections in the video are very very distracting.
Yep, totally agree.
They're not aesthetically pleasing at all. Just irritating and disruptive.
Lovely vid😊
Stellar episode man.
wouldn't the deep canyons also offer up protection against cosmic/solar radiation? Like meteors, radiation that hits at and angle would be absorbed by the canyon walls, only radiation hitting close to 90 degrees would get through, which would, in my estimation, be a considerable reduction.
Basically living in the shadow.
If we ever get there...dream on...
We getting closer
Soon when we get old
Cloud cities on Venus would be nice too
Had them on the planet Mongo, I believe.
Actually, no it wouldn't! The cost would far exceed any benefit that could possibly be gained! Same with the moon and Mars!
@@nightlightabcdtf do you care about the cost, you’re not paying for it
mars and venus have a magnetosphere and atmosphere that protect people from solar radiation
@@nightlightabcd The thing is... benefit you are talking about is survival of the human race. Costs don't matter.
Can we just rename the canyon as the "butt crack of mars"?
Lol
looks more like a light saber gash
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Could be!! We have no reference as to the scale of those Star Wars people who lived "a long time ago in a galaxy far away"!!
@@ronschlorff7089 "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the force"
mArse Crack
one day we'll be there
Very enjoyable episode, I had not heard about the water discovery. Just fix the transitions…
The current video title is kinda misleading.
not really, he said where the best location would be
@@aienthusiast618 I get that, it is not totally off, but the video title pretty clearly made me expect some actual plans from NASA: "This is where NASA _will_ build the first Mars colony!"
Not "kinda"!! I will say "totally" misleading. NASA has currently no such plans in this region.
@@aaaaa5272hmmmmm bold statement how 🤔 curious 🤔
@@NicoA47you don't really pay much attention or follow space x or nasa news do you does Elon musk ring a bell or are you just deliberately ignoring him so you can put your pointless point across 🤔
How deep below the surface is this water ice? Would we need heavy equipment to get to it?
Thanks .
Very helpful
Getting excited to explore Mars!
Our new home? Yeah let's leave Earth for a planet that has already been through the apocalypse and never recovered.
Where is NASA going to come up with all this money for these Martian projects? As a near bankrupt nation, we don't have the money to take care of the crumbling infrastructure on Earth and we are going to colonize Mars?
@@detroitjack0325 You got that right. The money could fix failing infrastructure, feed the poor, health care etc
@@detroitjack0325We aren't the only nation on the entire planet 😂. You don't think Europe won't land there spacecraft on Mars?
@@MagicToenailThe United States is on the verge of bankruptcy. Europe is no better financially. Europe for the last century has depended on the United States for major financial assistance. If and when the United States goes under, so does Europe! If anyone who might colonize Mars it will be China, not the United States! The U.S. can't afford to repair or rebuild our deteriorating major infrastructure, so how are we going to afford to colonize Mars?
Then we wouldn't have to worry that it might happen.
At 4:31 he says Mars never had plate tectonics, but at 5:16 he says tectonic activity was one of the likely causes of something or other. Either he is inconsistent or I still don't understand plate tectonics.
A luxury timeshare condo built in near the top of the canyon wall with a big picture window overlooking the Valles Marinares is my dream vacation spot.
So when they get past the international space station they figure out how to get past the Van Allen radiation belt without killing everyone
That's already been accomplished, many decades ago! The Van Allen radiation belt has never killed anyone, by the way.
NASA's plan to colonize Mars?! LMAO That's a good one. NASA can't get out of its own cost plus rut! If anyone at all can colonize mars, it will be Space X !
Yup, soon as they get to get it to stop blowing up, RUD'ing, and burning up on reentry. Yup they got this, for sure!! That's a good one!!!! LOL LOL LOL :D
@@ronschlorff7089 Im sold! Were do i get my 100.000 dollars pre-paid vouchers for dat first X ship landing there? Ticketmasters?
We won't see man set foot on Mars in our lifetime, perhaps in 200 years. I believe that all efforts will be on the moon, especially if China manages to create a colony first.
Don't quit your day job at the Urinal cake taste testing factory
@@mervstash3692 Sorry i was busy processing your order. Its already in shipping now. You said anything there, buddy?
FYI, "mesa" is pronounced MAY-sa.
You're right that it isn't /’mɛ.sə/ -- but it also isn't quite /ˈmeɪ.sə/. The initial vowel is steady, not a dipthong as in "pay." Not the vowel in "met" and not the vowel(s) in "may."
This assumes we're talking about Spanish pronunciation.
@@cacogenicist *Nerds* 😂😂
@@Alien_Bones he knows his stuff though
It's mesa, not may-sa
wrong, it is a Spanish word. May-sa is how english westerners pronounce it.
Well it looks like a great place. Can’t wait to go.
You're serious? 🤣😂🤣😅😂🤣😅
@@diegoflores9237 It would be a great adventure.
@@the_new_project people are never going to mars
@@diegoflores9237 You don’t think so? Hmm.. I think so. It will happen if they can get those androids working really well and make a huge ship. Why not? Send a bunch of robots to prep. Send equipment and supplies then go. Some are really serious about this and have the resources to do it. Well time will tell.
@@the_new_project agree
I've brought up for a very long time about tunneling into mountains or hills then tunneling below also to help alleviate micro-gravity, etc. And, etc and etc
only concern I might have with settling the noctis labyrinth might be the potential landslides of gigantic proportions, aside from that catastrophic point of failure it looks like a perfect place to settle
What's that rectangle on the top right getting visible for some seconds? Watermark?
There ist also other flicker. Is it all watermarks?
Great video, thanks
The canyon and lava tubes are potentially good places to start a colony. They would provide some protection and some resources that will be needed to survive. Also human activity will create a thicker atmosphere, which would maximize the potential for these locations.
Covered habitats will need their own atmospheres. It's unlikely that there will ever be a planet-wide dense atmosphere since the frozen CO2 covering the polar water ice is only a few metres deep. Vaporising all of it wouldn't double the present atmospheric pressure.
Even if activities produced gases to. Oldster the thin Martian atmosphere, it would sooner or later be blown away by the solar wind, since Mars does not have a magnetic field.
Interesting. Thanks.
Titan video about NASA's Dragonfly would be interesting?
Way more relevant: Where will SpaceX build the first Mars colony?
The Boring Company is working on automated tunneling equipment. Tesla is working on Optimus. Pretty sure these will be the first passengers.
has anything space x said come true yet man on mars by 2024 or 1 million by 2050?
Somewhere nice and flat... a plain as the tall Starship rockets cannot land without tipping over.
Musk won't get what he wants...there's no way the US govt will just let him just build his own independent Mars Epstein Island as the 1st colony on the planet.
@@travishylton6976well 2050 hasn’t happened yet
42:50 As an American in Japan, this cicada "scare" is hilarious. It's far worse than that in Japan every summer. So hearing that people are contacting 911, I burst out laughing. 😂
I would love to hear their reasons for contacting 911, what threat to life and property they thought was happening, and what they expected emergency services to do about it.
Cicadas are actually a great thing for Nature. It a sudden burst of food for pretty much everything bigger than a cicada.
I get it that they're extremely loud, and only get louder as the weather gets hotter, but in Japan, just like earthquakes, that's life.
911? Someone's making a lot of noise outside and trying to break into my house! 🤨 😆🤣
@@darylbrown8834 In NYC, that's 411, and the police don't even bother to show up.
As a Planet Crafter player, I believe they should build on the higher elevations. Just sayin.
We probably stuffed up Mars in the 1st place on the way to Earth then we realized Eatth is a back water planet
oh thats why i found so many materials in that spot when i was playing a colony game.
Interesting Video
There is in fact a LOT of water ice at mid latitudes also.
More papers are coming out on this caldera complex. Fascinating location. Tons of water almost certainly, and probably some really interesting mineralization. I joked to one of the scientists who discovered this that it would be funny if there were enormous epithermal copper/silver/gold deposits around the ring fractures -- because no plate tectonics, so the same area of crust has remained over the hotspot for vastly longer than would be the case on Earth -- and he didn't object to the speculation. Said there's mineralization in the area that hasn't been characterized yet.
Elevation is a little high as far as ease of landing while not making a crater.
Given the depth and increased atmospheric pressure, Valles Marinaris is probably the ideal place for a foothold permanent settlement. Air scavenger equipment won't have to work as hard. Pressure suits won't have to be overly engineered. Landing inside the valley may have to wait a bit until landings can be guaranteed within 1 kilometre of expected destination. I wonder what interesting geology will be uncovered then.
Good one, one of the best, with stunning imagery. I knew about the Mariner probe to Mars so many decades ago but did not know the massive canyon was named after it, a good tid bit of knowledge. Yeah, looks like a good place to go if we do in near or long term. But for me now too old, so it is only an "interesting thing". Sort of like knowing there are tigers and polar bears in wilds of this planet. I will never see them but glad we still have them, for now. Same with Mars, a nice place to visit maybe, plant a flag and get back home. Like the moon was too, decades ago. Good place for adventurous souls who may want to make a quick buck, mining or something to do with space science, and get home to spend it. See the great old sci fi movie "Outland" starring Sean Connery in a non-007 James Bond role for an example of that, on, I think, the Jupiter moon Io, where he was the local "sheriff" in town/colony!! Cheers! :D
Come on Elon. We're behind you. We know its hard; but your company can do it!
😅😂😅😅🤣🤣🤣😅😅🤣
Have you ever seen the badlands of North Dakota? That could qualify as a chaotic terrain.
3:00 "Chaos terrain is unique to Mars and other alien worlds."
You need to look up the difinition of the word 'unique'.
Never mind, I'll save you the trouble, it means 'one of a kind'. There's no such thing as 'very unique' and certainly not 'unique to several different places'. It's not that difficult a word to understand, it's surprising how many people seem to have trouble with it.
Lava tubes would be the go, protection from cosmic rays, meteorites, cheaper to seal sections off to maintain atmospheric pressure
So let's get this straight, we can't live on this planet, that is already set up for us, with an abundance of everything we need to survive, but we're going to travel millions of kilometres to live on a planet that can't support life? Okay wise guy, what's next?
Don't worry, it's not going to happen.
Way to miss the point.
Mars is a contingency against human extinction.
Currently, all of our eggs are in one basket. Should an asteroid or other catastrophe befall the Earth, I, for one, would like to have another place to cradle Humanity.
@@keithposter5543 I'm not worried, just about human intellectual decline, lol
@@vaqueroontarioshut up and give phone back to mama
You are right. The purpose of going to Mars is the drive it will give to science. And it’s the only place, other than tiny nearby asteroids and the tiny moons of Mars that we can actually go. The moons of Jupiter are too far away, so maybe in 2200 if we figure out a better propulsion system. Venus is too hot. That leaves Mars. We will only go a small number of times.
It’s “MAY-sahs,” not “MES-ses.” I was five minutes in before I realized it wasn’t a Canadian but an AI. They need to train them better so they don’t confuse the audience and make them click off.
No one's going to Mars. We can't even build a base on the moon. Building a simulation out in the Anarctic doesn't count, except in how to survive in harsh cold climates. Try building one out in a desert with little access to natural water, tonados, and dust storms. That'd be much more of a realistic test scenario. If keeping a base on the surface of such chaos is not possible, then learn to build underground, and how to keep the entrance clear for entry. If they can't manage any of that, they aren't going to be staying on Mars. Getting to Mars is another set of problems; and I doubt NASA has the ability to do so.
And what about rescue if there is a major accident or meteor event. Disease or virus outbreak, we got enough to deal with the moon & here on PE
6:35 looks a bit like the alignment of the Belt of Orion or the three big pyramids of Giza..
graveyard, not colony
ALSO: mesa is pronounced "may-sa" not "mess-ah"
Ive read that the valleys occurred from the shrinking of the planet as its mantle and core cooled
When I want a good laugh, I just watch some NASA videos.
Why did you stop uploading podcast to iheartradio?
Yeah they're gonna build that colony in Minecraft at best. Human landing on Mars with current tech is basically impossible, extremely dangerous at best.
Best is to settle near poles where the water is. Better for survival.
The best series of books on the colonization of Mars is by Kim Stanley Robinson: _'Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars.'_ Although it's science fiction it uses real science, and still holds up incredibly well thirty years after the first book....(1993)
Knowing my luck if I was on the crew it'd start raining.
This is one of the best videos you’ve made so far EXCEPT for the very disturbing “slide show“ whiteout transition effect used. It’s almost unwatchable and a real shame. You should re-edit with fade to black or just blend in transitions and re-upload. Seriously!!
we need a colony on the moon first for resources and cost efficiency
Ive always said a canyon with a sheet of some sort of glass material would be better and cheaper then a domed city since I first got into outer space stuff. Be more easy mine right there then having to dig down a lot too.
Not in one third gravity with radiation protection find resources hopefully water ice
@@jondoc7525 in a canyon you'd only have to worry about sun radiation from the top instead of all sides of a dome
@@jimidoodlesit can probably bounce off etc and that is still enough but at dawn and dusk it should be quite a bit better and we can dig into the canyon side and make a base like we have on earth
100% SF Still waiting on a camera on the Moon and those hotels promised 50 fkn years ago.
You cannot hide from the sun's radiation in a canyon. With little atmosphere on Mars, humans will never survive.
Well, they'd have to wear hats to provide some shade from the sun, of course but it's doable.
Nice
I wonder how this extreme geography and ancient geology play into mars current environment
So' all day solar power' Right?
Can anyone recommend a scientific review of Mars surface development?
Mars is not a "home" but rather a last ditch place to go if we really "F" up our real home earth 🌍
One correction, Mars is not completely inhospitable to life.
Digging down a hundred to thousand feet or so and you have pressure, water, heat and everything else you need for life.
If life exists at all on Mars (and I am in the camp that believes it does for reasons...) the best place to find it in abundance will be by taking core soil samples from drilling at depth.
A layer of mud below a Martian glacier sitting atop a caldera is the perfect place for the Martian equivalent of a deep sea thermal vent.
Given the optimal temperature and pressure ranges, some forms of complex life could even be supported thanks to the soil providing all the protections it would need from solar and cosmic radiation.
I would love to go to Mars one day and help to build a permanent human colony there
How big is a kilometer
1000 meters and a meter is about 3 feet.
A bit more than half a mile. (about 62% of a mile)
An important issue to resolve, first - is Mars flat like the Earth?
Didn't you pay attention? It's egg shaped!
Reminds me to go back playing surviving mars game.😁
Why Mars. The moon is right there.
..and just as habitable, that is "not habitable"
You gotta give credit where credit is due. The idea to settle in the Valles Marinares came from the book “Queen of Heaven” by Jose Mercado Ventura.
Chaotic terrain look like badlands.
Forget gravity wells, build in space.
I’m watching this 39 minutes after it was uploaded
Who cares? - It's the real question.
We want to know about Cydonia
Humans will never colonize Mars. It’s too inhospitable. Earth, no matter how screwed up it gets, will always be a better home.
"never" is a strong word.
Yea it's hilarious to me that there's some that think we're actually going to mars 🤣😂🤣🤣😅😂😅
Is the rock found around this volcano the same as our basalt
Pity about the appalling grammar. The most glaring example of this is the complete failure to use the present perfect tense correctly. In every case it was used the simple past tense should have been used. Why not use a good grammar checker?
NASA is not going to be building a Mars colony. It may send humans to explore, temporarily.
I don't understand the inability of so many space enthusiasts, starting with Elon Musk, to perpetually NOT GET IT that human habitation of space will be in rotating space colonies.
They will eventually have a science outpost that will be perpetually manned with a few astronauts who rotate every 1-2 years. No one will live there permanently. At least not in this century.
@@toddjacksonpoetry You can do more than one thing in space.
In reality they will probably send robots 🤖
But not people . And since it would only take
80,000 years to get to Alpha Centaur face this Earth is home
But I do love Science Fiction movies. LoL 😂
Exactly, Just like Antarctica
How about you drill or bore tunnels underground in mars and let humans stay in the tunnels. that would shield people from cosmic rays and would allow humans to pressurize the tunnels with air to replicate air pressure experienced on earth. in addition, it would be easier to expand colonies by drilling more ...
yeah... and people will just LOVE living under ground
Suspicious0observers for the win 🏆
My Q is...how often does Mars get hit with meteors?
Other than the gravity might as well, just build it on the moon planet is no more inhabitable than the surface of the moon literally
Hellas Planitia is my favorite
We can’t even take care of this world we all live on. No reason to move to a dead planet.
It would be worth it, just to escape all the pessimists here.
We have to get there first. At this time all we got are pure speculations and dreams. They are not enough to get anything going.
Nooooo!
Olympus mons is the gateway to real work done in space. We must burrow into the side of Olympus mons.
To get the most work done we need the most fuel up in space. Not using most of your fuel just to get into orbit or further. Mars gravity plus Lorentz force electromagnet assist from surface will eventually be deemed the best method for manned missions. Olympus is the prime candidate for this method.
Venus Cloud City is still a better choice than colonizing Mars.