Any New Mac is "Good Enough" For Music Production // Macbook Air 15"
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Even with intensive VST and effects usage, just freeze & flatten along the way and it’s all good. This also helps you commit to your ideas and push things forward.
That's what I do with Maschine. Convert my midi tracks to audio. You can just drag and drop midi tracks into a new audio track. CPU relaxes.
@@keithprice1950 💯💪🏾
CPU demand aside, if I had followed this tip vs always having dozens of things to tweak and edit later on I would have probably released so much more music by now. Back in the day they had to use up tape to track and so you had to be ready. Now I just hit record as many times as I need until it’s “perfect” to my current ears. Following a roadmap is so so so important to finishing projects.
What’s freeze and flatten?
@@Tutorial-Center to save on memory and cpu demand you can freeze an individual track which essentially prints or renders the track with all of the plugins and effects you’ve applied without needing to process these in real time. The downside is that you can’t tweak these plug-in settings unless you unfreeze the track and re-introduce the high intensity tasks on your computer. Let me know if I can simplify that any more lol
I'm using the M1 mac-mini. Using Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro. I have never taxed resources with plugins. Video editing is excellent. The M1 Air is the same computer inside, so it would also keep up just fine. The M-series chips are more than enough for music making.
i am sure the m1 mini case helps as well. Everyone who can afford to have a stationary computer for music should do so.
You rock! Super helpful comment. I just need something to write on logic and occasionally subscribe to Pro Tools if i need to create a Project in full to share with a Pro Studio.
I picked up one since I had been taking out a $3800 16 inch Macbook Pro with M1 Max just to run my guitar amp sim Amplitube and a few Soft-Synths in Bars and clubs which is just plain silly. So instead of going back to Amplitube for iPad I picked up a 15 inch Macbook Air and it did everything I needed without 1 single issue!! I ran My rig and Mainstage for my synths and our Bass player through an Amp Sim in Mainstage as well. So a Stereo version of Amplitube and a Mono Version for Bass along with 7 synths with some EQ compression, chorus and reverbs all at 96K "for lower latency" with a Presonus Quantum 2626 over Thunderbolt and the CPU usage was 18 to 20%. It was warm at the end of the night which we played 4 hours but not hot at all. This was all on a 8 gigs of RAM and a 512GB SSD.
I enjoyed the video, it’s good to see that you are ready to take your game to the next level, I remember waiting for your next video, now you are dropping videos often, Thanks for your hard work and honesty
How much ram is good enough because 16gb is not enough 32 is not enough
16 years using Macs, went through 2 Mac Pro's to a Hackintosh. I've just went back to Windows, only reason I held off was Logic. 3 month in... never looked back tbh. The moving of content drives was a pain the ass, but other than that fine. I can even use older plugins that weren't supported anymore, like Ozone 8. As Windows doesn't lock you out. So yeah, I do hold a soft spot for Mac, but I doubt I'll dip into their echo system again as it's just a money pit I can do without frankly.
I’m thinking of doing the same. Any recommendations on brand for a windows pc setup?
@@nsp932 Mine is just generic gear, as it needed to be for a Hackintosh. So any decent PC mid range would probably beat mine.
6 months in and still zero regrets. But same as Mac, on my PC I have weekly backup running. So any issues, 20mins and I’m back in business. The new Mac Minis do look nice, but I really don’t want to enter their ecosystem again. It’s just too expensive.
I use a M1 Mac Mini w/ external 1tb hard drive. I’m still going to get a M1 MacBook Air for portability and live performance. The M1 Air is as cheap as 700$ now. You’re correct about the plugins and VST. I barely run no more the ten tracks with a handful of plugins. I record a lot of audio tracks, especially with my SP404mkll and MPC one. No spinning wheel of death since I been using it.
M2 have better headphone out, it's maybe one of the things to consider, especially for ultimate portability where you don't need to drag audio interface/DAC for your higher impedance headphones.
The phones were said to get slower, not the computers. I personally am on a 2015 iMac and it still runs like butter to this day (32gb of ram on this one)
The only reason I've ever had to upgrade was because something broke ( like a video card...but that was after years of use )
You said it 5:20 - 5:23, it definitely is psychological.
From what I've been hearing from the established tech people is, The M1 machines are literally that good, that you don't even see a reason to go for an M2.
Still waiting for the iMac M3 to swap for and give this iMac to my mother.
I can't work with a laptop, I've always been a desktop person.
I thought of going the mac mini route ( people are sayin that this is the better value given the power it now has ) but, I don't want to have diff parts for my machine... Im so mac-centric, I'd end up buying the Apple Display for it, which would bring the price up to an iMac.
6:58 I used to argue with people about this when I worked in a computer store lol.
We all grew up with windows machine, we know what it was like, we don't wanna go back to the dark side lol.
lol love your reality checks by the way, new sub : )
I love the MacBook Air because it’s thin size. So easy to put in a backpack and go anywhere but it not enough for home studios for beatmakers that love plugins and want to create content for socials. You’ll need a lot of ram so the pro is the way to go for me. Nice videos 🔥🔥🔥
Certain MBP’s were actually thinner than the contemporary MacBook Air, oddly enough.
So the Ram would be more important than the storage space to run the plug ins?
I’ll be playing in church running click tracks so I’m not sure which computer would be good for live settings
@@TBb____ Ram is more important than storage because you can but external hard drives if needed
@@TBb____it depends on size on your projects, if u dont do such a thing like 10 crazy Synths on top of eaochother i thinks 8gb of ram gonna be okay. Check videos of M1 chip with FL studio pushing to the limita so u can see if Its good enough for u.
@@IhaveCovid thank you very much
When I get to Pro in production, I would able to run 80 track full mix project without lag on my macbook air 2020 intel. But before that when I used use all the fancy plugins, It couldn't run 4-5 tracks simultaniously. lol... But now it's time for an upgrade. Thank you for this video.
I'm going back to mac with my next laptop - they've reeled me back in. Back in the early 2010s their machines seemed purposefully made for creatives but then gradually they started to feel like overpriced fashion accessories. The M chips seem like decent bang for buck tho and I've missed the reliability of macOs
I have a windows gaming laptop that I paid over $3000 for and it’s worse for running ableton than my M1 MacBook Air I bought used for $750.
probably dpc latency
Love your "GAS-therapy" sessions! Insightful thoughts about why you don't have to buy the latest gear just because...
Congratulations on your purchase, but I prefer my new Mac bookPro 16 M2, because I create my music with Logic Pro and Machine+. 🙂
@@DANTEANDOLINI My MBP is a fast machine, it really runs great with logic pro, and only overheats the aluminum case a little, but this only happens when I have the full resolution screen. 2048 x 1240. I always use an external screen for this resolution and it doesn't get hot at all, when I travel to another studio I set the screen to 1344x840 resolution, and the machine always stays cold.
My MacBooK M2 can make 128 tracks with many plugins and the speed is really fluid, there are no bugs, no delays, there are no peaks in the CPU and I never use the battery, because I like to have it plugged in for updates and demanding programs.
I use the battery to surf the internet when I'm in my living room watching television.
When I use Maschine+ things are very easy and as an independent machine it is great, I really wanted to have a sampler like that, but the best thing that Maschine+ has is the controller and sound card.
I also pair my iPhone with Logic Pro and use it as a single fader controller and transporter for playback and record controls. 👍
I use a windows laptop with an AMD dual core CPU, 8gb of ram and an SSD. I have Maschine with the Maschine software. It works perfectly.
I think people massively overestimate what they need. And if your CPU is struggling you can always freeze tracks and convert midi to audio.
You do not need a Mac that costs thousands of pounds.
yo i agree with you. a windows pc is just as good or better she gonna have bad credit
@@SecretEntertainmentt if you want to work seriously on a windows laptop you really have to have luck or do your homework getting the right laptop ....dpc latency is a pain in the ass
@@snubdawg1386 that all depends on a persons needs nowdays and what all you need cuz every person needs are different
All facts.. I use my M1 Pro and it was provided by my school, it definitely went under some stress and performance tests to be an industry standard. Ironically, the M1 is outperforming the M3 especially in audio production. M1 has more performance cores, M3 has more efficiency. Thanks Apple
The future is here! It’s hard to recognize it sometimes because it feels so gradual but we really do make incredible progress before we know it. I can go outside and immediately rent a bike or scooter to get anywhere around town while carrying a sub $1000 MacBook Air that’s more powerful than the PC I’ve been building in my room for the past 10 years.
My Gf has a M1 MBAir. I just got her a minty factory sealed 9th gen iPad from Santa.
My main music audio production iMac?
Is an intel 2013 i7-4770 that I bought "parts only" for $50, and rebuilt myself with $40 of parts.
Currently runs Catalina, but with OCLP?
I'm good.
I've been using an M1 air for 3 months now...its excellent for music production
,only thing that sucks is the battery life
Is 256 Go enough ? Installing all the .exe application for plugins, VST3, or app like RX ?
@@davidhellegouarch1622 I HAVE AN 8 GB ALL VSTS WORK
A work around for slower macs is to upgrade to a (faster) SSD and max out the Ram, Apple noticed how powerful their Intel machines are and how frequently people WEREN'T upgrading, and how its impossible to upgrade Ram and Storage without some computer and soldering skills
Did Apple give you that for the video?! I sure hope so..
I still use my 2010 macpro for audio maxed out at 256 gb ram just for kontakt
I plan on getting a refurb m1, you can get more ram and hd space for the same price.
I’m doing fine with my asus rog m16.
But I might consider getting a MacBook just for atmos mixing on logic.
Buy M1 Air or M2 Air or Mac mini with a minimum of 512 SSD. Base models have small storage and if you take 256SSD base model and install all your plugins - there won't be sufficient amount of storage left to update MacOS when the new MacOS comes out! So my advise is: buy any M1 or M2 based mac/macbook with a minimum of 512 SSD storage. External SSD is ok but if your internal storage is full - you'll be annoyed by slight slowness and low memory messages of MacOS.
I’m getting a mini Mac and mac air.
My entry macbook pro 2012 was fine. 2020 Base model m1 air is wicked tho
pro yes, I meant regular white mac back in the day
look into yam display for a extra wireless display... useful if you have a spare ipad laying around
What's the best thing to get for voice recording and processing? Absolutely silent (good for recording) Air on M3 chip or more productive (enough for DAW and plug-ins) Pro on M3 Pro chip?
the same vsti, but bigger size mac app vs pc so a vst with 150mb effect for pc will be 260mb for mac or more.
I always feel like my MBP gets REALLY hot, doing anything music related. Logic / Serato Studio, etc. is this something you noticed w/ MBP? Maybe it’s just normal. 🎉
I use more than 50 plugins 😂😂🤣🤣 great post
Great video. Thanks.
Hi! Thx for the great content! I've always played the guitar and now I want to start doing somethings with synths and drums too...I'm between a Macbook or some compact hardware like the aira series (j6 + t8 + e4). I'm not into PRODUCING or RECORDING. I really wanna be able to jam by myself, "in real time", with multiple sounds, play some covers and compositions. I like Bon Iver/James Blake vocal style so Vocoder/Autotune/Harmonizer is essential...With the Mac option, will it really be possible to use these vocal effects in lives, jams and sessions without latency or delay issues? I'm not a computer expert and everytime I've tried to do something like that, even with more experienced people helping me, I couldn't really hear my voice with the effects in real time, and that's what's leaning me towards the hardware options. Hopefully you'll read this. Thank you anyway for all the great content!
Eventually, they will be so thin, you won’t even be able to see them. That way they can charge you for nothing.
Love hearing your truth Jade.
"we have nothing and nothing makes sense" okay... I got it, now make sense.
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This would be my 1st MacBook
My macbook pro from 2012 is basically dead now. I wanna get an air, and just wanna know for recording what should I get? Im thinking about the 13 inch 2024 m3 one
Bruh I have the 2012 unibody MacBook Pro too lol it’s beyond time to upgrade. I’m debating between the 18gb m3 pro or the 36gb
Thank you Jade
I just moved to Mac from Windows, finally. I despise Windows. I got a Mac Studio M2 Max with 1 TB storage. Much better bang for the buck vs the MacBooks. Use a ton of VSTs and effects and it doesn’t even come close to anywhere near breaking a sweat
...by the way apple may make thinner laptops , butt they are working ON being an integral chip in you life (metaphorically speaking 👀...from iPad to Eyesight 👁, so lets literally NOT forget our senses as we explore, actual tactility for a creative is still very vital ... we can only get what we can afford, bar getting a buyer for body organs as the early adopters target is the focus at the moment...and remember to switch the machine OFF to be a healthy creative. health is wealth Fam .
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Set to Sleep humanoid 👾@@pickleeggs3340
I also have a late 2008 iMac (SSD mod/6gb ram) that runs the pre-X version of Logic Pro like a little sexy sleeper bitch! For merely just audio production? IMO one could easily get by on that type of unsupported Mac. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The reason why your iMac started to slow down is because the internal HDD began to fail. Apple used mechanical HDD in the iMac and over time they begin to fail causing the machines to slow down. For 200$ you can get it upgraded to SSD and it will be like new again :)
Wow this is so refreshing, just straight forward honest info and not the same regurgitated stuff that every other UA-cam channel does.
8gb of ram is NOT enough memory for anything taxing.. the processor is fine but with memory.. you can only choose once lol
Loved your video!
So fun watching you
What would you recommend for live performances with Ableton? Does anybody have any recommendations? I'm just starting out but want to perform live with Ableton.
more ram than anything!
That's such an amazing jacket!!! where did you get it???
Thanks! Ebay
Just now someone has presented me a used 27 inch Apple thunderbolt display for my Birthday! So now I can connect my M1 Air to a big screen. You can do the same as those monitors are not that expensive!
I'm here because I bought the iMac m3 base model and have this concern
i wanto to buy a mac air , but i m not sure if this worth to buy a 8gb ram or 16 ram.
i am recording podcast and just guitar , bass , drums, etc, like 6 channels. what do u recommend me ?
Hope to see price drops on the previous cycle Bcoz GOOOOOOO BOI 😍
You should try surface studio 2 laptop
I’m not a fan of external hard drives either. I’d rather have everything in one place.
Ye tha newones are killer
You mean four options. You forgot Apple vision pro.
“50 plug-ins who really does that”
Me over here at 98% cpu usage on my 200th plugin 😂
Where did you get that sweet jacket?!
thx!
I love my mini M1 :)
Fancy, i'm still on pc. Don't like to 3 passcodes to do anything. wanna get the ryzan's latest.
Mac mini should be fine... Personally I use a PC
Appreciate ❤
Funny! Great vid. Lots of truth here!
screen resolution too .
I ended up getting a (used, m1) macbook pro because the air only lets you have one external screen. but I've done some music production on my m1 air, and it's more than powerful enough for basically anything you'd want. it's good that you're pointing this out :)
Until I don't release a bunch of music I'm not upgrading my Macbook Pro M1
Me.. I add 50 plug-ins.. Be more inclusive 😂
Great vid tho 🔥
50 plug-ins is only 5 tracks 😂
Yup me again.. I use external storage.. Why aren't yu including me 😂
Any laptop from the last 10 years is good enough for music production
U tweaking
even many of the newest windows laptops for thousands of bucks are not good enough because of dpc latency
Generally, used Apple products is the way to go =D
You will regret going windows!!!!!!!!
Everybody giving wrong information. If you use heavy plugin and mastering plugin macbook air not working properly.. advance level music production
Don't think you wanna switch to Windows. It will have you busy figuring out how to update every component firmware / driver such as together it still makes a fluid system 😭
After 16 years of Mac, I've moved back to Windows. Seamless and actually better, as I could use older purchased vst's.
@@vaiman7777 after 16 years on a mac, I started working as a music teacher at a school with HP laptops. Figured Windows and DAWs couldn't possibly be as bad still right... Right?
Turned out ASIO4all is still the only viable option for low latency audio. Starting the DAW before plugging headphones in makes the DAW not detect the headphone output. Seemingly identical computers will behave completely different with the same audio interface plugged in.
Next semester we're getting MacBooks. Thank goodness ^_^'
@@DJDiskmachine Using an X32 and Focusrite here, no issues with either. No asio4all. What interfaces are you using?
@@vaiman7777 Focusrite Scarlett, Zoom Livetrak L12 and some streaming USB mic I can't recall the brand of.
Especially the L12 is extremely troublesome in Windows.
Extremely reliable on a 2012 thicc MacBook we had lying around thank goodness =D
@@DJDiskmachine I used to work in a school too. I personally recommended Macs, as supporting that amount of devices, it’s a no brainer. And cost me nothing 😆
But I’ll personally not use them again, mostly due to their aggressive upgrade model. Shame
Yes, in my brain it bothers me. LOL
good luck with soldered hardware
It's pronounced "chassy", not chassis, silly.
Oh no u like apples ...yuck.
If you don’t know what the Mac Pro is for, your workload isn’t large enough for it.
Also, they don’t make anything slower. Software gets more advanced and hardware gets old.
Do you even know what you’re talking about? Seems like you’re just saying BS.
Anyone spending 4000 on a laptop for music period has to be mildly slow