Fat Bike Vs Plus Bike | How Do They Compare?

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  • Fat Bikes and Plus Bikes are basically the same, right? Blake’s doing his own brand of testing to see which bike is best in different situations, and most importantly, which is the most fun!
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  • @gmbn
    @gmbn  6 років тому +98

    Fat bike or plus bike? 👇

    • @tcgeddes6691
      @tcgeddes6691 6 років тому +32

      Global Mountain Bike Network plus bike all the way

    • @SUBASHGOUD69
      @SUBASHGOUD69 6 років тому +15

      Global Mountain Bike Network plus

    • @yolohipster5847
      @yolohipster5847 6 років тому +14

      Plus is the good balance

    • @yolohipster5847
      @yolohipster5847 6 років тому +24

      Fat for fun, plus for practical

    • @chiliandsiomai
      @chiliandsiomai 6 років тому +11

      My surly has a fat front and plus rear 🤗

  • @AKandPetunia
    @AKandPetunia 6 років тому +176

    So good to see videos exploring hardtails as a fun option and not just a budget option. Blake, you're my hero.

  • @th_js
    @th_js 6 років тому +75

    I really wouldn't call a 2.6" a plus bike, more like semi plus, but amazing video Blake!!!!!

    • @th_js
      @th_js 6 років тому +7

      @Daniel Paul Watts Hey mate, in my honest opinion, no. But it really depends, if you don't have a massive amount of money to spend on a fancy trail bike, a budget fat bike would provide some "suspension" and a more comfortable ride. On the other hand, if you don't get a top level fattie - then it's gonna be really heavy usually. But if your country gets a lot of snow in the winter, then it might be worth considering. I would probably go for a plus bike if I were you. Hope I helped you a bit!

    • @jonnymorrisuk1
      @jonnymorrisuk1 6 років тому +14

      I was thinking the same thing - my Plus bike has 3" tyres (not 2.8" which some seem to round up to 3"), I think to qualify as Plus the tyres really need to be 2.8" minimum, although the rest of the bike might be a Plus on account of boosted wheels and geometry, if it's got normal tyres on (like 2.4s) is it still a Plus bike? Dunno!

    • @smontane1
      @smontane1 6 років тому +11

      Agreed. Plus size is minimum 2.8, right?

    • @th_js
      @th_js 6 років тому +1

      I think so.

    • @liambate2301
      @liambate2301 6 років тому +5

      A plus bike is classified as tyres 2.6 inches or wider anything smaller is not a plus sized tyre.

  • @automaticraccon
    @automaticraccon 6 років тому +47

    Blakes’s videos are starting to be my favourites. Great skills, good topics and oozes fun. I can tell by the sound of the fat tires you where running them way too hard. No more than 8-10 PSI for this kind of terrain. No wonder you had no grip. And youshould def run it tubeless. I am 100% sure the test would yield a diff result if repeated withcorrect tire pressure. Great to see some hardtails in action either way. +Bikes are also very cool anyway.

    • @Zimblake
      @Zimblake 6 років тому +6

      Thanks dude. mmmmm yeah I needed look into tubeless

    • @thehammer4860
      @thehammer4860 6 років тому +2

      When I converted to carbon wheels and tubeless, it was so much faster. I can also attest to tire pressure being above 15psi causes it to be more bouncy on rough terrain. Also, when the trail is wet, that is when the fat bike truly shines. I feel much more slippage and sketchy on my 29er MTB when the trail is even slightly wet.

    • @travislindgren7158
      @travislindgren7158 2 роки тому

      @@thehammer4860 15 psi is too high for Fatbiking... Maybe only on pavement with no obstacles 15 psi

  • @deleterr
    @deleterr 6 років тому +11

    Blake is an absolute legend, so entertaining to watch.

  • @AHavoc907
    @AHavoc907 6 років тому +72

    Having too much pressure can make or break the ride of a fat bike with those huge fat tires. Hearing you mention "bounciness" makes me think the fat bike tire pressures were set a little on the high side for this video. Anyways, I enjoy seeing the fat bike coverage from you guys! Those things are practically a way of life for some people in AK. =)

    • @texxs01
      @texxs01 6 років тому +3

      It's exactly the opposite. The more air there is the harder the tire. When fat tires have less air they become VERY bouncy, like almost enough to make you motion sick. I know this because I have a fat bike. If you keep it inflated a bit under the max (which is really low on fat tires) it seems to be a good mix and even adds a little bit of shock absorption, of course it slows you down a lot too.

    • @indigowolf288
      @indigowolf288 4 роки тому +1

      Couldn't agree more - I have a fat bike and the grip really comes alive at 8 to 12 psi, anything more and you get what Blake is experiencing on the bumps.

    • @victorvannatter312
      @victorvannatter312 Рік тому +1

      This is true. At 10-12psi is perfect on my 26x 4” tires on trails. Under 8 they get kinda bouncy. Makes sense there’s a lot of spring but no rebound control. Now on the beach 5-6psi is right around perfect. Haven’t had the guts to go lower, fearing my tubes

  • @publicmichaelzmit
    @publicmichaelzmit 6 років тому +9

    My XC (Forrest Racer) is equipped with 26x2.4, witch was HUGE at the time of building. I recently got a Fatbike with 26x4.8 and that is somewhat slower but waaaaayy more fun to ride - so for recreation and exercise I would choose the Fatbike any day.
    Would love to see a 29x3 build Plus bike in the mix.

  • @dominicellison9427
    @dominicellison9427 6 років тому +4

    My mountain bike life changed completely when I purchased my Kona big Honzo. It’s 27.5 * 2.8. My wife has a specialized Ruze. It’s 27.5 * 3.0. Absolutely love riding around whether it’s the mountain or in the city or on a simple trail my wife and I have more confidence than ever.

  • @hartwood9078
    @hartwood9078 6 років тому +19

    Fat bike because it’s my only trail bike, and I can ride it in the snow. Another great video Blake!

    • @kubagajda7347
      @kubagajda7347 6 років тому

      Yo! How about wheel durability on the trails? I was worried about the rim denting in since it has so flat cross-section

    • @hartwood9078
      @hartwood9078 6 років тому +3

      Kuba Gajda With the tall side wall of the 4” tire and volume, I have never had an issue bottoming out. At least not yet.:)

    • @Zimblake
      @Zimblake 6 років тому +1

      HELL YEAH!!! thanks dude

  • @jasonpeckman6137
    @jasonpeckman6137 5 років тому +2

    I am a very casual, novice MTBer and my only off-road bike is a fat bike (Pugsley SpecOps). It perfectly fits your assessment of the fat bike. Great uphill traction but it feels cumbersome when you want to maneuver in tight situations. Being inexperienced it also makes up for my flaws on trail. I don't worry about big rocks, loose gravel, roots, etc. because the tires just don't care. You adequately sum up the joy of owning a fat bike every time you say "and now the fat bike!". You smile, growl and love it for the sheer happiness is brings you.

  • @efraingarza2464
    @efraingarza2464 6 років тому +3

    Got a 27.5 x 2.8 on my Diamondback and I LOVE IT!!!

  • @ex_zach_tly
    @ex_zach_tly 6 років тому +10

    That video was awesome! It would be so awesome if you guys could make a plus tire vs standard tire video so we can sorta have some context! GMBN’s content is fantastic!

    • @yesto9676
      @yesto9676 6 років тому +2

      2.6" is basically a standard mountain biking tire already

    • @geemail369
      @geemail369 6 років тому +1

      @ex Zach tly:
      The yal re adydi dt hat on 27.5 vs 27.5+

    • @ex_zach_tly
      @ex_zach_tly 6 років тому +2

      Le Typ That was two years ago without Blake (the best) and they only looked at how fast they were I want to know about all the different categories like in this video.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  6 років тому +4

      Good idea!

  • @johan66
    @johan66 6 років тому +51

    Fatbike !
    Has more fun

    • @ketogenerreini1690
      @ketogenerreini1690 6 років тому +2

      And if you use good Tyre and go Tubeless it transforms a Fatbike in a grip machine.
      Schwalbe JJ is the worst for non Asphalt road only low rolling resistance but a lot of punctures.
      I using Vee Tire Snow Avalanche 4.8, rolls good and has a lot more grip than Schwalbe JJ

    • @mr.wizeguy8995
      @mr.wizeguy8995 6 років тому +2

      I have driven over 1100 miles (1800 Km) all kind of terrain mostly trails that is full of roots and twigs with 26x4.8 Schwalbe JJ including inner tube and zero puncture so far.

  • @BandGeekRecords
    @BandGeekRecords 6 років тому +2

    I rode both a fat and a plus when I was test riding for my new bike. I had to go with the Plus (running 2.8 now). Felt better to me and I can go up to 3 inch tires. Probably go 3 inch and tubeless for my next tire setup. Been loving the Plus; does everything I want it to do.

  • @mauruseisenring6203
    @mauruseisenring6203 5 років тому +4

    Best combination is a beautiful hardtail with 27,5+ tire rear for a good traction en comfort and Twenty niner front for good rolling speed.👍👍💪

  • @reddrojo1417
    @reddrojo1417 6 років тому +2

    Komodo Expert 26+ Tires actually measure out to 28ers. Last year on my Gt Zaskar usually was in the back. This Year I'm waiting on them👍

  • @NeilWaudby
    @NeilWaudby 6 років тому +24

    Blake really needs to convert the fatbike to tubeless! It completely changed the feel of mine. Way less roational weight and more grip because you can ride lower pressures.

    • @coen8323
      @coen8323 6 років тому

      Neil Waudby its already tubeless

    • @Zimblake
      @Zimblake 6 років тому +3

      Now thats a PLAN dude. I need to

    • @jlvggarcia4678
      @jlvggarcia4678 6 років тому +2

      Neil Waudby
      i would do tubeless on the fat one for less chanses to get flat.

    • @NeilWaudby
      @NeilWaudby 6 років тому +2

      Blake Samson definitely a game changer. Can't wait to see more fatty shredding!

    • @NeilWaudby
      @NeilWaudby 6 років тому

      Jlvg Garcia it took me hours and every trick in the book to get my tire off when I converted so if I ever flatted on the trail I'd be walking home for sure. Possibly through miles of snow lol. Tubeless is the way to go!

  •  6 років тому +9

    I like and own a fatbike. I prefer the fatbike because It approaches and hammers trials correctly, making a ride like a float down the river on the faster moving current. It is much easier to ride up hills because the pushing youself on lower gears makes it easier to balance with 5 inch tires than needing to bail because you got stuck on a plus size bike. Plus size is more speed but not my style of mtb fun

    • @texxs01
      @texxs01 6 років тому

      You are so full of it. I own a fat bike and they are incredibly difficult to pedal uphill. Way more friction, way more weight. They are slower downhill too, bigger width means way more friction.

    •  6 років тому

      texxs01 true, for hill steepness . I can get back at the hill after the heavy bike stops me

    • @warkingdread2383
      @warkingdread2383 5 років тому

      texxs01 wrong

  • @keithcuster606
    @keithcuster606 5 років тому +1

    Love the video, I have an On One 27.5 X3.0 and I am really enjoying it. This is my first mountain bike and these videos are great for building my knowledge.

  • @swpa8742
    @swpa8742 5 років тому +1

    You guys have the best trails to ride, those big doubles and berms look so nice

  • @robinburt5735
    @robinburt5735 6 років тому +102

    Is it just me or does the fat bike make an awful racket when doing anything? Something is rattling around like a beast!

    • @robinburt5735
      @robinburt5735 6 років тому +13

      Also wut? A fatbike is better at rough uphill terrain? Weird i didnt expect that

    • @lmrecorders
      @lmrecorders 6 років тому +2

      I think Blake ditched it prematurely. I've gotten jammed up on a technical climb on my plus bike and it's either the back wheel suddenly slipping or the back tire getting hung up on a rock and stalling momentum.

    • @Dude-Smellmyhelmet
      @Dude-Smellmyhelmet 6 років тому +5

      Not just you. Would drive me crazy

    • @TomEtchells1980
      @TomEtchells1980 6 років тому +14

      The rattle is the internal cable, just need to pull the cable tight from the front end to eliminate it like I did with my canyon dude 👍

    • @Dude-Smellmyhelmet
      @Dude-Smellmyhelmet 6 років тому +2

      Tom Etchells Ah! Yep I think you're right. Definitely sounds like inside the downtube!

  • @jdavis417
    @jdavis417 5 років тому

    I'm running Trucker's Creme in fat bike tubes and, when you get that pressure way down there, it is a different beast! The "bouncy/floaty-ness" goes away and it grips the corners like your riding a Warg through the Fangorn Forest!!! It's addictive... so much so that I've just (finally) gotten a replacement for the one that was stolen way back in September.

  • @andybrown141
    @andybrown141 6 років тому

    I agree , I like both. I own a surly pugsley for snow and winter riding . Cannondale Habit 27.5” for the rest of the year on singletrack and gravel which is tight and lots of climbing .

  • @Alanvictoryoung
    @Alanvictoryoung 6 років тому +3

    Blake, I’m loving your videos! Keep it up!
    I have a Wozo fattie and love it: it ridiculous fun! So different than my usual enduro bike. I have no doubt that regular and plus tires are more versatile and quicker on average, but the fat tires are so fun and run surprisingly quick trail times . I didn’t realize the sound is so much part of the fun until you mentioned it! My friends giggle as I jump and bounce my way down the trails. Crazy laughs! Next fall and winter get your hands on some studded Wrathchild 4.8” tires. They have insane grip but roll pretty darn good. The bring the grip, confidence and grin rating to a new level!!!

    • @Zimblake
      @Zimblake 6 років тому +1

      Thanks Alan, Glad that you liked the video. I can't wait for winter now, it means I can still ride my bike in the winter. Thanks for the recommendation on the tires.

  • @khairulabdsamad1844
    @khairulabdsamad1844 5 років тому +1

    Blake! Never fails to entertain. Loving all your videos. Make another comparison plus bike vs full suspension perhaps?

  • @Shane101A
    @Shane101A 6 років тому +28

    Stache, 29x3.00 Turbo diesel.

    • @olek5916
      @olek5916 6 років тому +1

      Michael Stache FTW

    • @willspicer9559
      @willspicer9559 6 років тому +2

      That’s my bike! I started riding a year ago and the stache 29”+ inspires so much confidence! I’d love to see a review of the new Full Stache.

  • @simoncook964
    @simoncook964 6 років тому +18

    Jumbo Jim’s running at high pressures to prevent flats? No wonder he had problems with the fat bike.

    • @latinumbavariae
      @latinumbavariae 4 роки тому +2

      Thats what I thought too. I run my 4.8"JJs at 0,45bar/6.5psi (front) and 0,75bar/11,5psi(rear) and I'm heavy. Punctures are very improbable (never had one) becuse the fat tire will just suck up the edge of a rock. I agree that those clownshoes won't dig into the ground but float above. Hey - thats what they are build for. Surf the terrain and have fun.

    • @aroundoz
      @aroundoz 4 роки тому +2

      I like my Jumbo Jims but they are probably the least aggressive fat bike tire out there.

  • @riderlopeman7858
    @riderlopeman7858 6 років тому +10

    You guys are my favorite UA-camrr

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  6 років тому +1

      Thanks!

  • @granthenderson2146
    @granthenderson2146 6 років тому +29

    But the fat bike came with that cool internal cowbell 😂

    • @Juha-MVP
      @Juha-MVP 5 років тому +1

      and you need more cowbell ;)

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 4 роки тому +2

      Super annoying, I could not live with that extreme rattle.

    • @AlterofWitchery666
      @AlterofWitchery666 4 роки тому

      @@rolux4853 why

  • @AntonBlaschuk
    @AntonBlaschuk 6 років тому +13

    2.6 is a plus? especially talking about Continental which may lie for 0.1-0.2 inch about its sizing.
    what's its actual width on rim? and inner rim diameter.

    • @Dude-Smellmyhelmet
      @Dude-Smellmyhelmet 6 років тому

      Anton Blaschuk True. I'm not sure but I think rim width is the first consideration determining whether its a plus bike. And not the TIRE width, since the rim shape changes the tire profile so much. But tire makers should indicate a rim width that would give you the indicated tire width.... maybe some already do. Idk

    • @alantaylor6691
      @alantaylor6691 5 років тому +1

      @@Dude-Smellmyhelmet
      Plus bikes are made assuming you're using a standard plus sized rim width which are mounted with 2.8 or 3 inch tires and when mounted on plus sized rims effectively come out somewhere close to 2.8 to 3.

  • @bingbongmcgee
    @bingbongmcgee 4 роки тому +1

    4:10 Man... For a second I was waiting for Shaggy and Scooby to run across the screen 🤣

  • @jessereed726
    @jessereed726 5 років тому +4

    yo them bikes just pulled some magic intro lmfao

  • @gqh007
    @gqh007 6 років тому +60

    Lower tire pressure on the fat bike?

    • @benlzicar7628
      @benlzicar7628 6 років тому +12

      I know right? Who runs a fatty on trails with high pressure.

    • @SUPREME-ri8wt
      @SUPREME-ri8wt 6 років тому

      Yep got to know what you're are doing when it comes to the Fatbike!!!!!!

    • @gregs7562
      @gregs7562 5 років тому +2

      Yup. Think I'm running mine at about 9 psi

    • @alantaylor6691
      @alantaylor6691 5 років тому +1

      Well he explained why he was running the higher pressure, to avoid punctures when running over gardens and stuff, because the fat bike is susceptible to that he said. I suppose that was just the kind of riding he was doing on this day.

    • @chrislukes9037
      @chrislukes9037 5 років тому +15

      Yeah but then he kept complaining about not getting enough grip, so maybe his pressure was *not* appropriate for the type of riding...

  • @adiadrian290
    @adiadrian290 6 років тому +12

    I prefer plus bike because i love more go down hill with speed then climpb on hills.

  • @josephedmundreynolds4244
    @josephedmundreynolds4244 6 років тому +3

    Thanks to your channel I'm now the proud owner of a Cannondale Fat Caad 1. Absolutely love it. Thanks for the Vid' "Keep it FAT".

  • @lou5560
    @lou5560 6 років тому +11

    I know it goes against popularity but I prefer the fat bike. Absorbs bumps better & biking in the NJ Lines with sugar sand is a lot better on the fat bike for me. I'm amazed at some of the terrain that I can ride it thru. My mountain bike is faster but I find myself riding that fat bike all the time. The mountain bike is like driving a fast car where the fat bike is like driving a 4 wheel drive.

  • @jacobg130productions
    @jacobg130productions 6 років тому +3

    Fat Tires + Tubeless setup = A destroyer of worlds in bike form.

    • @Corcioch
      @Corcioch 5 років тому

      Thanos rides a Tubless Fat Bike so!!!

  • @rjahn3000
    @rjahn3000 4 роки тому

    Best comparison hands down thanks!!

  • @Operation3Sixty
    @Operation3Sixty 4 роки тому

    Just bought a Santa Cruz Bronson v3 in 27.5+ 2.6" tires and I love it. Gives me more confidence in the turns. My buddy has 29r and says he cant keep up because of how fast im taking turns

  • @jeffmcilroy7081
    @jeffmcilroy7081 6 років тому

    I have a plus size bike now and i absolutely love it. I’m picking up a trekk Farley 5 fat bike next week.. can’t wait to try it out on the trails!

  • @tommyestrada6464
    @tommyestrada6464 6 років тому

    Another fun video, but here in the US, a 2.6 tire is considered a WideTrail tire, and 2.8's start the plus size, my Pivot Mach 5.5 came with 2.6's, Chris Cocalis say's it's definitely not a plus bike. Just sharing some info, keep cranking out those fun videos, you guys there at GMBN rock!

  • @mtb_rene317
    @mtb_rene317 6 років тому +1

    I see you picked up some good pointers from BKXC on rider POV footage. Another great video Blake!

    • @Zimblake
      @Zimblake 6 років тому

      hahaha I have indeed. Thanks Rene

  • @MrVara411
    @MrVara411 6 років тому +1

    Awesome video!!!! That plus bike needs a lube, mate. ;)
    As a fellow 27.5+ owner (3" in the front, 2.8" in the rear) I can say I'm in love with the setup. I'd say 2.8" is probably the best compromise size for trails... if there's going to be a lot of paved runs in between, perhaps 2.6" tires would be optimal.

  • @BoiseDiesel
    @BoiseDiesel 6 років тому +3

    Diesel Power! Great Video, I thoroughly enjoyed it!

  • @BisdremisKostas
    @BisdremisKostas 6 років тому +22

    Before my first fat-bike ride i was so skeptic and biased ... now i own one .

  • @rocketraccoon77
    @rocketraccoon77 6 років тому +31

    Plus all the way

  • @jeremiahg2716
    @jeremiahg2716 6 років тому

    Whoa , you really launched a few of those jumps . On a hardtail even. Making me want to go out and not be afraid to jump on my cannondale cujo 2 plus. Baby steps though lol. Great channel guys 👍

  • @chrisgeorge510
    @chrisgeorge510 6 років тому

    Blake, full suspension fatbike...game changer! I ride my All Mountain mtb still, but my fully fatty is my go to most of the time.

  • @Performance-101
    @Performance-101 5 років тому

    After riding everything over a great many years, I am now officially sold on the 26+ tires, which have the OD of a 650b, but has the volume of the 650b+. I implore you to give them a go, specially now that Maxxis is making the DHF/DHR tires in 26x2.8.

  • @Jadia09
    @Jadia09 6 років тому

    Great Video! Outstanding information... Thank You for Posting.

  • @baconfister
    @baconfister 6 років тому

    For a proper comparison you need 1) the same geometry between the fat and plus; 2) how about also sticking a 2.8" - 3.0" plus tire in between the 2.6" and 3.8"/4.0"/4.5"/4.8" tires... and obviously with equivalent tread patterns. I’ve been riding and racing fatbikes since 2011 and am convinced that the 2.8" - 3.0" plus size will be the sweet spot between fatbikes and “normal” bikes.

  • @jeffp5418
    @jeffp5418 6 років тому +1

    Blake, My Fat bike goes from 3.0 to 4.5 tires with one switch and a flip chip. Otso Voytek. Look it up. The real deal!

    • @Zimblake
      @Zimblake 6 років тому

      WOW thats cool thanks dude

  • @paulwintermute1495
    @paulwintermute1495 5 років тому

    12:35 holy cow that was one hell of a double you made out of those rollers!! BLAKE IS A BEAST!

  • @marccox1506
    @marccox1506 3 роки тому

    Love the fatty, took my specialized fatty, manitou front shocks, maxxis tires down "the whole enchilada" Moab Utah, great ride,zero issues! Can't wait to do it again!

  • @FabFilippo86
    @FabFilippo86 6 років тому +1

    I’d love to try a fatty but I think a plus bike with a bigger 3.0 tyre is better. You kinda have the feeling of both bikes, and many plus bike models can take 29er wheelset.

  • @DoutorBicicleta
    @DoutorBicicleta 6 років тому

    Edits are sick! Love it!

  • @PascalKolkman
    @PascalKolkman 3 роки тому

    Plus Bike with 2.8" or 70 mm wide Tubeless Schwalbe Rocket Ron's fast rolling with high shoulders for more cornering grip than Racing Ray's and less resistance lighter weight than Nobby Nic.
    Since snow is getting less and less with the climate warming up, and before reaching the single track routes I have to overcome some serious distance on tarmac before and ater the fun, fatter tires than 3.0" I won't need most time of the year.
    Also I like the ability to put 29-er wheels in the 27.5 Plus MTB frame.
    Great Video You can cast the energy through the camera Blake.

  • @rednecktech70
    @rednecktech70 5 років тому +1

    🤔 interesting video. I liked it! I’m leaning towards the “Fat” bike. I’m a good size guy. 6,2 270 or so.
    I’m not lookin for speed as the most important thing. I need to go and try some out in person.

  • @amw4736
    @amw4736 5 років тому

    lower pressure on the fat bike is ideal...and they are awesome I had one...but the reality is that for regular trail riding getting those huge tires up to speed over and over again through switch backs, tight trees, descends and climbs will drain you so fast...they are best for snow, sand and XC especially bike packing...

  • @_cxvenyy9413
    @_cxvenyy9413 6 років тому

    That line is sick for the jumps one of my favorite trails at fod

  • @Criscross292
    @Criscross292 6 років тому

    Awesome video! I have slack hardtail. Now I want get those 2.6 tires

  • @arod4084
    @arod4084 6 років тому +2

    I have a Matte Black Chromag Stylus running 2.6 rear 2.8 front and love the grip so I'm bias. However I had a Foes Fat bike come up from behind and it sounded like a 4x4 with Mud tires. Would not mind adding one to my collection. Nice bikes love the Black.

  • @acronym6757
    @acronym6757 4 роки тому +2

    Plus Bike a Modern HardTrail, no roads, no problem. 🙌🏻

  • @whitecherry8170
    @whitecherry8170 6 років тому +2

    I'm with you Blake..I like both of them too man!:)

  • @weeringjohnny
    @weeringjohnny 12 днів тому

    It looks like the Scout has a much shallower head angle and this might go some way to explain why it performed better in the freeride section.

  • @singletrackminded8079
    @singletrackminded8079 5 років тому +1

    Great slo-mo! Your tricks are tight and controlled.
    Suggestion: Can you show real time AND slow-mo to give a sense of timing and technique for us newbs.🙏🔑✌️

  • @dividemtb1691
    @dividemtb1691 6 років тому +2

    What about a no suspension fat bike vs hard tail fat bike? Does it really make that much of a difference?

  • @GreatLordPenguin
    @GreatLordPenguin 6 років тому

    Gotta go with plus since its an agile beast on the trails. Love my bike (full stache 8).

  • @obc3095
    @obc3095 6 років тому

    I absolutely can not get over how well my fatty handles most everything. For my style of riding fast jumping and berms on varied crap terrain, it kills. The only thing that sucks is rear wheel punctures and rim damage. Preparing an amazing hack tomorrow, will let you know how it goes.

  • @sircrackien
    @sircrackien 6 років тому

    @gmbn I'm very glad that you are demystifying fat bikes but I would like to note that jumbo Jim's while light are not well regarded as a fat bike tire on the trails. I would also be interested in seeing you guys use 27.5 fat as it has better trail manners

  • @ph.manuel4589
    @ph.manuel4589 6 років тому

    The First MTB that i took on a trail ever was a FAT bike HT (Rented) because we wanted to try something new. The day before that was raining really hard that made some part of the trail soft yet hard enough for someone to donate some skin. Ever since that day, i am hook to MTB. I have ask around Pros and friends to know which bike is good for Under $1500, they all agreed that Trek Roscoe 9 is the way to go. So, How is the transition from Fat Bike to 2.8 Plus tires for a Beginner?

  • @CV-dl3hj
    @CV-dl3hj 4 роки тому

    Don't forget to do a Beach test for the Fat Tire also can be used as a floatation device in case you fall into the ocean!

  • @coolprof1951
    @coolprof1951 5 років тому +5

    How about a 29er/Plus bike comparison???

    • @mateuscouto3108
      @mateuscouto3108 3 роки тому

      how about a 29er +size fat tire becasue fat tires normally are 4" but it can go up to 5''

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 5 років тому

    Your "technical climb" is just a "climb" where I come from. Root-tropolis where I live. We may not have big mountains on the east coast of the US, but we have plenty of rocks and roots.

  • @mikagami69
    @mikagami69 5 років тому

    Definitely agree with the other posters, air down those fat tires a lil bit, it'll change your downhill time and the handling. Also, great video!

  • @thehammer4860
    @thehammer4860 6 років тому +5

    Look at my picture. Fatty all the way. It's a freakin' blast and it's like a Jeep through the trails. Wet? Don't care Snow? Don't care

  • @OldManFatBike
    @OldManFatBike 6 років тому +11

    Great comparison, thanks for sharing this! I'll take the Fatty over the Plus anytime!! Ride On Man :-)

  • @greedfox7842
    @greedfox7842 4 роки тому

    I have a 26+, it is sick AF yo, it can't compare to a full suspension or a dedicated downhill, but it rips.

  • @joshbrowne7416
    @joshbrowne7416 5 років тому

    Me and my friends hired some eletric fat bikes and we were ripping around the beach drifting. One thing I noticed was the tire pressure.

  • @HybridRTele
    @HybridRTele 6 років тому

    I have both, and for some reason (I think grip) I'm considerably faster on groomed Single track with the rigid Fatty - loose AZ red dirt
    Fatty:
    12' Mukluk
    26x4.8 Minion FBR front
    27.5x3.8 Minion FBR rear
    Hardtail:
    17' Devinci Kobain
    27.5x3.0 WTB Bridger front
    27.5x2.8 Rekon+ rear

    • @ibanez2010
      @ibanez2010 6 років тому

      I believe it! I get smoked by guys on fatties all the time here on the single tracks in MN.

  • @tablatom
    @tablatom 4 роки тому

    Blake you had the Jumbo Jim’s to hard. Fat tyres are all about finding the best psi. That’s usually lower than you think. Took me a while to learn this. And that’s where the monster grip comes. Especially on the front tyre. I run a JJ 4.8 4 to 7 psi on the front.

  • @freakysteve140281
    @freakysteve140281 4 роки тому +2

    Do the same tests in more sandy conditions

  • @-Drebin-
    @-Drebin- 6 років тому

    Maxxis FBF & FBR on a fat bike change the ride completely... much more trail ready... definitely worth a try...

  • @samclark5500
    @samclark5500 6 років тому +8

    Blake how many bikes do you have overall

    • @burdazza4673
      @burdazza4673 6 років тому +1

      Very

    • @Zimblake
      @Zimblake 6 років тому +4

      mmmmmm I'm a pretty blessed guy Sam. I have a few

    • @alantaylor6691
      @alantaylor6691 5 років тому

      @@Zimblake Please give us an exact number. We know bikes is your livelihood so don't feel bad. But we want to know.

  • @andrewhillman9632
    @andrewhillman9632 4 роки тому

    I had to smash subscribe after that epic video!

  • @Luke-pm4xw
    @Luke-pm4xw 6 років тому

    best bike youtube channel. And could you maybe do a video about how to perfectly secure your bike or how not to get your new MTB stolen please I vrilly need some good advice. Thank you!

  • @boomerangfreak
    @boomerangfreak 6 років тому

    I've never ridden a fat bike but I gotta say I do LOOVE me these 2.6'" wide 29ers on my scott genius. Then again maybe I bit too much as I am thinking of swapping the 2.6" wide nobby nics for maybe a set of 2.5"wide maxxis combo, Maybe Ardent rear and HRII up front?

  • @OldDirtGuy
    @OldDirtGuy 5 років тому

    I would have liked to have seen a little bit about setup. Tubeless or not? Tire pressures? And I think you guys would be surprised at what a set of Marge Lite, or other 65mm rims, do for a fat bike in the summer. They provide a much lighter feel and much more accurate steering.

  • @Lewyhill1
    @Lewyhill1 6 років тому

    I wonder how many times gmbn will be in the FOD this month 😂 keep up the great work guys

  • @jonthompson7821
    @jonthompson7821 6 років тому

    I like how you used the filming tips from BKXC on this!

  • @flemming_j_
    @flemming_j_ 6 років тому +22

    I am picky, sry, 2.6 is not Plus, 2.8-3.0 is.

    • @jeremiahg2716
      @jeremiahg2716 6 років тому

      Flemming Jensen
      This is true I have a 27.5 plus . 2.8
      My stepdad bought a Giant 2.6 and it wasnt labeled as a plus

    • @liambate2301
      @liambate2301 6 років тому

      I research a lot and 2.6 is classified as a plus bike

    • @texxs01
      @texxs01 6 років тому

      That's not being picky.

    • @liammckay5923
      @liammckay5923 5 років тому

      Then what is it?

    • @Harry-wz3nz
      @Harry-wz3nz 5 років тому +1

      1.9 to 2.4 is regular 2.5 to 3.0 is plus

  • @deltacx1059
    @deltacx1059 5 років тому +1

    You don't need to turn in the air
    To get better grip on the fat bike lower the pressure.
    At lower pressures the fat tires deform around the rocks so punctures are less of a issue on that fat tire than they are on the plus.

  • @Minunmaani
    @Minunmaani 4 роки тому

    4:22 uu, that laugh 😂👍

  • @solmackay
    @solmackay 6 років тому

    I bought a Canyon Spectral AL 6.0 and if you count 2.6 inch tyres as a plus - then I'd have to say I'm on team plus

  • @thechaosengine3020
    @thechaosengine3020 6 років тому

    I find I'm always wrestling with big volume tyre bikes. Trying to fight them onto the line I want to be on rather than the one they've bounced me on to, usually towards something which I don't want to interact with. I find 2.35/2.25 get me up to where I want to ride easily enough and I can be more in control on the way back down. Especially on muddy rocky terrain which is my usual ride. Maybe I'm just stuck in the mud?

  • @calowayred1819
    @calowayred1819 5 років тому

    Thumbs up for 2.8-3.00” plus bikes! Here in CO they do it all!

  • @wernerhannefeld2636
    @wernerhannefeld2636 6 років тому +1

    2.6" is not a Plus actually... It is just formally a Plus buuuut not a true Plus like 2.8" or 3.0", which are much closer to a fatbike. Cause there's not much difference between 2.4" and 2.6", but 2.4" and 2.8" or 3.0" differ a lot. I love +, because the fatbikes are not so good in rough gnarly rides, they are for sand, snow, mud and those sorts of terrain, where a not-FAT would just get stuck.

  • @ericboissonneau3415
    @ericboissonneau3415 6 років тому +2

    You should try the fat bike with 5" tires! Its a whole other beast! Fat bike rules!

    • @alantaylor6691
      @alantaylor6691 5 років тому

      You'd be better off with 4 inch tires rather than 5 inch tires on the trail though wouldn't you?

    • @davidsuzukiispolpot
      @davidsuzukiispolpot 5 років тому +1

      @@alantaylor6691 on snow wider gives more flotation.

  • @skooterbrah
    @skooterbrah 4 роки тому

    I live in the Mojave Desert, and I struggle with this decision everyday. My plus bike is running 3.0", and my fat bike is running 4.25". Both of these bikes are extremely competent with the loose terrain around here, but I am forced to admit that the fat bike is just more fun.

  • @RocketboyX
    @RocketboyX 6 років тому +24

    Why do half measures? Go fat.