Celestion Speakers: Greenback vs Alnico Blue vs Vintage 30 vs Creamback

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2019
  • In this video we are going to: listen to a song of mine with a rhythm part and a lead part listening to 4 different Celestion Speakers, than we will build together a 4 speakers cabinet with a Celestion Greenback, a Celestion AlnicoBlue, a Celestion Vintage 30 and a Celestion CreamBack and then we will hear a detailed comparison between them, both with clean tones and distorted tones, listening each after the others and also each against all the others....Please let me know in the comment below which speaker you prefer and if you want me to compare other speakers...hope you enjoy and please subscribe to my channel and hit the notification bell!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 246

  • @fernandofontesfirmino1803
    @fernandofontesfirmino1803 4 роки тому +39

    The best comparative video! Congratulations!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Fernando, appreciated!

  • @deadinside0586
    @deadinside0586 4 роки тому +4

    What a great comparison job, man! Pretty organized. Thanks for do it for us.

  • @IamMusicNerd
    @IamMusicNerd 2 роки тому +5

    This is the best comparison video I’ve ever seen. Great job!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for this great compliment that really makes me happy!!!

  • @Prossdog
    @Prossdog 9 місяців тому +2

    You always have the best comparison videos Leo. Thanks!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  9 місяців тому

      Thank you for such an amazing compliment! Really super appreciated!!!

  • @MaciekMalczyszyn
    @MaciekMalczyszyn 4 роки тому +2

    Great job! Thanks for that comparison!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you Maciek! Really appreciated!

  • @LuisM_Piozza
    @LuisM_Piozza 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome! Extensive comparative and with great audio quality. Thanks a lot!

  • @BreauxBobby
    @BreauxBobby 2 роки тому +1

    This was great, Leo. Excellent. Thank you.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Bobby, I'm happy you like the video!!!

  • @paullaughton3440
    @paullaughton3440 4 роки тому +1

    This is an amazing comparison. Thanks for making this.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you Paul, really appreciated!

  • @andreyms4318
    @andreyms4318 Рік тому +1

    Thanks!
    The best comparison!
    Very very informative!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому

      Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!!

  • @jasonstewart9752
    @jasonstewart9752 2 роки тому +1

    Great comparison! Thank you for this.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      You are welcome, I'm happy that you like it!

  • @gabrielguitarcrunch2899
    @gabrielguitarcrunch2899 4 роки тому +2

    Hi, you made such a great video! Thanks man! you're great!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much! really appreciated!!!

  • @rodclem1
    @rodclem1 2 роки тому +1

    Incredibly helpful video. Thank you!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      You are welcome, I'm happy to have been of some help!

  • @choltmeier2
    @choltmeier2 4 роки тому +5

    Great video Leo. I especially like how you did each speaker against each of the others. This was really helpful. For my own situation, I have typically been using greenbacks. I want a cab with blues so I have both options. This solidified that I will proceed to get blues (but still hold onto my greenback cabs). Thank you.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Your are welcome!!! Thank you for you comment and your interest in my channel!

  • @blakeleaf4356
    @blakeleaf4356 Місяць тому +1

    Such a useful video, thank you!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Місяць тому

      Thank you sooooo much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!

  • @joelsmith4816
    @joelsmith4816 Рік тому +1

    Thanks a lot Leo for helping your subscribers choose their speakers. Very important and helpful.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому

      You are welcome and I'm super happy to have been of some help!!!

  • @Paul-ur5kc
    @Paul-ur5kc 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent work! Thank you!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Paul! really appreciated!

  • @2bikemikesguitartopics145
    @2bikemikesguitartopics145 3 роки тому +5

    Beauty is in the ear of the beholder. Very well done my ear preferred the cream and the green

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you, really appreciated! Thank you also for sharing your opinion!

  • @crazyivan1966
    @crazyivan1966 4 роки тому

    What an amazing demo. Thank you for spending the time to do such great work. The blue and green sounded best to my old ears.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you, your appreciation is really important for me! Thank you also for sharing you preferences with us!!!

  • @DennisAlvarezMusic
    @DennisAlvarezMusic 4 роки тому +2

    Just subscribed! Great job on the video!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you Dennis, really appreciated!

  • @lucasguedes6473
    @lucasguedes6473 4 роки тому +2

    Great test Leo, I always follow your channel, undoubtedly one of the best on UA-cam today, when it comes to guitar equipment!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you Lucas, this is really a great compliment! thank you once more!

  • @DaveDexterMusic
    @DaveDexterMusic 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for doing this. Instantly removes the vintage, which I was about to buy, from contention and leaves me torn between the blue and green. The clearest comparison video I've seen.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      Thank you, I'm super happy that you like the video!

  • @michaelyolch79
    @michaelyolch79 Рік тому +1

    Wow! Great work here! You just made me decide to build a 2X12 cabinet with one Greenback and one Alnico Blues speaker in it. :)

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, I'm happy to have been of some help!

  • @gplume1099
    @gplume1099 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing work, thank you very much for sharing that!

  • @guil_juliao
    @guil_juliao 3 роки тому +12

    Best speaker shootout on youtube hands down! Celestion Blue is the best Celestion speaker in my opinion. The GreenBack sounds like the ceramic version of the Blue speaker.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you, really appreciated!
      Thank you also for sharing your opinion!!!

    • @frankstetka7206
      @frankstetka7206 3 роки тому

      Surprisingly the blue and green complement each other nicely combined

  • @toddkurtz1468
    @toddkurtz1468 7 місяців тому +2

    They all sound great and I would be happy with any one or combination of them. You can't lose!

  • @dennisfinch5981
    @dennisfinch5981 2 роки тому +1

    Thank You for the comparisons between each speaker, I am in the market for a speaker for a small cab I'm building. I've been all over youtube listening to speakers and until now I was undecided, though now the clear choice for me and my budget is the greenback, Thank You for your effort in bringing this to light.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Dennis, you are welcome, and I'm happy to have been of some help!

  • @zanelli9273
    @zanelli9273 Рік тому +2

    Amazing review, Leo! Unfortunately my favorites, (gold and cream) were not reviewed... Thanks a lot, i loved this review

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much, I'm super happy that you like the video!!!

  • @ikigai47
    @ikigai47 9 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for this. I'm wondering how much the tones would change once the speakers were broken in. I keep reading how that is vital. I was most surprised by two things here: The blue sounded best dirty (always thought the green would), but I'm not sure if my brain is equating what seemed like more volume on the distorted tones which we can sometimes equate that to 'better' sound, or if the perceived higher volume was just the more pronounced mid push of the speaker. Also, I didn't expect the greens to sound as good as the blues on clean. I always thought that's the blue's domain. Vintage sounded like I thought it would, and the creambacks were slightly more disappointing than anticipated

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  9 місяців тому

      You are welcome and thank you so much for sharing your findings!!!

  • @katyjoplin4571
    @katyjoplin4571 5 років тому +1

    Well done and very informative video!

  • @Andrei.x8
    @Andrei.x8 4 роки тому

    Great playing and nice song man. Great comparison. I love the greenbacks the most.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you Andrei, really appreciated!!!!

  • @javiermartinezlorenzo2497
    @javiermartinezlorenzo2497 3 роки тому +1

    Great comparative Leo. Congratulations

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you Javier, I'm happy that you enjoyed the video!!!

  • @joelonsdale
    @joelonsdale 3 роки тому +2

    Great video - well done guys. I'm loving that Alnico...

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Joe, really appreciated!!!

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 3 роки тому +1

      Expensive taste.

  • @c03x157
    @c03x157 2 роки тому +1

    The best video comparision, excellent and thanks

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      you are welcome, I’m super happy that you like the video!!!

  • @jublaim
    @jublaim 3 роки тому +2

    Very well executed comparison! Greenback is my favourite here, with Creamback as 2:nd.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you Mats!!! Thank you also for sharing your opinion!

  • @nicvortec
    @nicvortec 4 роки тому +2

    Absolut great job, thank you

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you for your comment and your interest in my channel!!!

  • @therockhour1386
    @therockhour1386 4 роки тому

    what a great video, especially for a guy with an old 4/12 just begging for new speakers haha! Thanks you!! I tell ya, Im really impressed with the alnico. The clean sounds beautiful, and I feel the distorted tones have great dynamics. Thanks!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      :) ... yes, I agree...the Alnico sounds great...I also like to combine the Alnico with the greenback for overdriven tones...I find that they complete each other pretty well! Thank you for your message!!!

  • @ZillaCabs
    @ZillaCabs 4 роки тому +2

    The Blue and M greenback is one of my favourite mixes of speaker in the same cab. Great video

  • @MrBossei
    @MrBossei 3 роки тому +1

    Superb comparison! Thanks! All elements have their strenghts. Maybe Greenback is the best compromise.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you, really appreciated!!! Thank you also for sharing your opinion!

  • @aaronlsuton
    @aaronlsuton 2 роки тому +1

    You’re a great player and this is a great video brother!!!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      These are great compliments!!! Thank you so much!

  • @johnkennedy6690
    @johnkennedy6690 3 роки тому +1

    Extremely well done video.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you John, really appreciated!

  • @ctld5266
    @ctld5266 4 роки тому +1

    Very good comparison video. Clear, detailed, technical.
    Could be good, to have the comparison double track left and right. And in a mix with bass and drums, as it changes a lot the sound.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you, really appreciated! Actually, I had in mind to do a second part of this video doing basically what you are saying, trying the speaker in a real mixed song and also paring two different cabs together, but I never found the time to do it...hope in the future I will... thank you for your message and your interest in my channel!!!!

  • @HayseedDixieOfficialRockgrass
    @HayseedDixieOfficialRockgrass Рік тому +7

    This is the best guitar speaker comparison I've yet seen. Excellent work. Thank you very much indeed. I hear things in each speaker that I like, and I know a lot of this is personal taste. The Alnico always sounds the most present to me, like it's speaking right into my ear, but it also sounds rounder than all the rest. It makes me want a speaker with all the body and presence of the Alnico but with the more extended high-end response of the Creamback or Vintage 30 - which also sounded a bit more distant and small to me but had a lovely top definition.
    I wonder how much different each speaker would sound with a Sennheiser 421 or a condenser? I also reckon a lot of this would change just by moving the mic an inch or so towards or away from the center, or by moving it back a couple of inches . . . so many variables! But as a comparison to show the basic overall inherent characteristics of each speaker, this is top work. Thank you again!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому +1

      You are welcome, I'm super happy that you like the video!!!
      Thank you also for sharing your findings! Yes, I do agree...mic positioning is very important and also a 421 would have an impact in the tone...but at least I hope (as you said) that this video provide a general idea of the character of each speaker.
      Thank you so much!!!

  • @ChrisBuonoGuitar
    @ChrisBuonoGuitar 4 роки тому +1

    Most appreciated effort.

  • @bishlap
    @bishlap 4 роки тому +2

    great comparison and some really great playing. P.S. Vintage 30's for me.

  • @johnhummer1064
    @johnhummer1064 2 роки тому +1

    This is as good as a comparison video gets.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      Thank you John, really appreciated!

  • @lucaszembrzuski
    @lucaszembrzuski Рік тому +1

    This is the best speaker comparison i have ever seen, and i've been watching alot lately, because im looking for some upgrade to celestion seventy 80 in my Ibanez TSA15 combo. Im torn between greenback, vintage 30 and v-type, i want a nie strat quack on clean and the least fizz possible with drives.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому +1

      Hi, thank you so much, I'm happy that you like the video!
      Finally, I'm typically using the Greenback for clean or comping parts and the V30 for soloing...but the speakers are the things I have changed a lot over the years...It's an ever ending research... :)
      Thank you!

  • @veganstevenmusic
    @veganstevenmusic 4 роки тому +1

    I love how detailed your videos are #science

  • @voidburner8271
    @voidburner8271 3 роки тому +2

    I love the green back and creamback :-)

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!!!

  • @sinfirma23
    @sinfirma23 3 роки тому

    Thank you Leo, nice video like always....Alnico for me

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you for the compliments and for sharing your opinion!

  • @Yo_DJ_Llama
    @Yo_DJ_Llama 4 роки тому +3

    I came here wanting a good comparison and I was blown away! No need to waste money on the blue when greens and v30s are perfect. I know there are plenty of play styles but I just can't get over that perfect sound of the v30s. Cheers!

  • @albertarmen4839
    @albertarmen4839 4 роки тому +1

    excellent... looks like there are a few amps there to choose from :) noticed the Marshall head was on @ 8:10. Is that what was used? Also I may have missed it, did you wire them up in a conventional series-parallel configuration?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +1

      Hi Albert, the amp I'm using is a Marshall SC20 (basically a JCM 800), I've not change the wiring of the original Blackstar cab, I've just changed the speakers. Thank you for your question!

  • @sghrd
    @sghrd 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video Leo!!! Listening to this comparison I preferred the Creamback.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      Thank you, really appreciated!

    • @sghrd
      @sghrd 2 роки тому

      Don't know if already done, but I'd like to hear a comparison with the G12H 30 anniversary ;)

  • @ricardadn
    @ricardadn Рік тому +1

    Leo, has fet una fantástica feina. Et felicito!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

  • @normjones6916
    @normjones6916 5 років тому +3

    An amazing job wow. Lots of work! The question needs to be which speaker sounds best in a mix? Your music and guitar playing is beautiful.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  5 років тому +3

      Thank you Normand... you are right, in fact I'm thinking about other videos comparing the speakers in a fully produced song or combining them... for instance a greenback with a vintage 30 or a greenback with an Alnico Blue..
      Thank you once more...I've really put a lot of energy and passion into this video...and I enjoyed it!

  • @alwolf2325
    @alwolf2325 4 роки тому +1

    Lovely video, Leo. This solidifies it, there really is no need to upgrade the good old Greenback.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Al, both for your message and your interest in my channel!!!

  • @evanmiller2579
    @evanmiller2579 2 роки тому +1

    Very well done.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      Thank you Evan, really appreciated!

  • @chrisf6216
    @chrisf6216 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for sharing! The way you orchestrated the "each speaker against the others" is brilliant! Which speaker did you prefer in the room? Cheers!
    PS Subbed!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +2

      Hi Chris, thank you very much for your interest in my channel and for subs!!! In the room I prefer the greenback, if I had to choose only 1.

  • @cristguit
    @cristguit 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks by excellent video

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      You are welcome!!! I'm super happy that you like the video!!

  • @hgostos
    @hgostos 3 роки тому

    Loved the video. Thanks. This reaffirmed my love for Greenbacks. It is also the cheapest of the whole bunch! The voice of Rock n'Roll.
    I can hear the "sound" of the cab, minimising the differences between speakers. Is the cab birch ply?

  • @novaneriantoku
    @novaneriantoku 4 роки тому +1

    good Job Leo👍👍👍

  • @davidgiles9378
    @davidgiles9378 4 роки тому +5

    Excellent work! My intitial impressions: No surprises, usual issues. Blue has very pleasing crystal chimey highs, mids won’t be scoop friendly. Cream has some nice low-mid extension, interesting, yet it also sounds a bit colored/phasey. V30 sounds round with some nice highs, presence. Green compresses the right ‘hard rock’ way, but very slightly dull (smoother?) relative to others. I find you can always subtract specific frequencies with a precise eq post-mic to get to a specific desired sound, but harder to add frequencies/dynamics it’s lacking to begin with, unless your that person who uses sim amps and speakers. Tho they can sound good and are very convenient, I’ve yet to hear a sim speaker IR that sounded like a real celestion, including celestion ones, which is great news for celestion. A guitarist (who’s achieved proficiency) really does need several different real speakers pushing as much air as the gf or neighbors will tolerate imho.
    ~Hey Celestion: make an alnico blue that retains the beautiful 3d clarity, but compresses in the mids just like a low watt green when pushed, with some 9-16k presence hair on top and a little low chunk from the v30; since this is a wish list also add a dial to tune resonance 50-80hz. I suggest you make the speakers lower wattage and more pick dynamic above 5k, use lighter cones. Lower wattage, sensitive speakers ‘usually’ sound more alive; plus if people blow them you will sell more.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +1

      Hi David, first of all thank you for your really interesting message! Well, actually I agree with you. Each speaker has different quality and characteristics...in fact at end I prefer to mix different speakers then record the same speaker with different mics ... actually my favorite couple is the Alnico with the Greenback...I have to find the time to make a part 2 of this video...mixing speakers...thank you once more!

  • @Tremblox
    @Tremblox 2 роки тому +2

    Wonderful job - thanks so much. A question: did you burn in the speakers before doing these comparisons? Also just a note to point out that these speakers will sound different in an open back or ported cab and different depending on whether they are wired in series or parallel (damping). Would be cool if you could do a video highlighting these differences too. That would be a ton of work though!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      Hi Gerry, thank you, I'm happy that you like the video!
      May I ask you what you mean with "burn in" the speakers?
      Yes, the comparison you are suggesting is cool! As you said...it would take a lot of time...
      Thank you once more!

    • @Tremblox
      @Tremblox 2 роки тому

      @@LeoGibsonGtr Hi Leo - yeah I was referring to the break or burn in of new speakers. Basically speakers change their tonal properties with time - mechanical wear on the “flange” where cone meets the surround, makes the speaker less “stiff”. In practice this can remove shrillness and harshness from the top end and also boost bass extension. It may also lessen a speaker’s tendency to sound nasal. I guess there’s a general consensus that speakers sound more musical with playing time. The amount of time required is the subject of much debate: some speakers reportedly require a long time (months, years), but many people say that hard playing for a few hours (or letting amplified music or loops blast the speaker whilst one goes elsewhere), is enough to make an audible change for the better. Cheers, gerry

  • @jarodreddig63
    @jarodreddig63 3 роки тому +1

    Appreciate the work you put into this. Unfortunately critical listening over mobile devices just gives you somewhat of an idea of what being heard. Between my phone, phone with earbuds, and then my desktop system with Focal over-ears, each one I have a different favorite amongst the 4 speakers. In real life I prefer Alnico Blues. Thanks again for the hard work.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the compliments and for sharing your opinion!!!

  • @frankstetka7206
    @frankstetka7206 3 роки тому +4

    Cream is sweet and a good mix of Blue and Green in a way. It sings more like a blue at louder settings but all this is vague and subjective to hearing, amp and guitar as we all know. The real joy comes from mixing them for me. Two speakers I don’t like as much V30 and g75t actually sound great together but not as much on their own.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi Frank, I do agree...when you mix these speakers you can obtain pretty great tones!
      Thank you for your message!!!

  • @atomic7731
    @atomic7731 4 роки тому +1

    great video but which celestion greeback was exactely used? there are different ones.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +3

      Hi, thank you, it's a Celestion G12M-25 Greenback 16 Ohm

  • @jamesfoster5405
    @jamesfoster5405 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent comparison. I thought for me the Alnico Blue had slightly more bloom to the overall sound than the Greenback on the clean but not enough to justify the price difference. Overall both clean and distorted they all sound good. My preference if I am paying for them would be 1. Green 2. Cream 3. Vintage 30 4. Blue(Simply for its cost). If I had a Great 30 watt or smaller wattage amp that I loved, then I would spring for the Blue.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you James, I'm happy you like the video!!!
      Thank you also for sharing your opinion!

  • @frankstetka7206
    @frankstetka7206 3 роки тому

    Great playing bro

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you, when you like my playing...I'm happy!!!

  • @krauz111
    @krauz111 4 місяці тому +2

    best comparison video ever

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 місяці тому

      Thank you sooo much, really appreciated!!!

  • @rocker8692
    @rocker8692 3 роки тому +1

    Great video

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you Chad, really appreciated!

  • @runxzze123
    @runxzze123 10 місяців тому +1

    Really excellent, would love to hear the G12EVH vs Greenback vs M65 Creamback vs H65 Creamback

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  10 місяців тому

      Thank you, I'm really happy that you like the video.
      Thank you also for sharing your suggestions!

  • @peteroerts
    @peteroerts 4 роки тому +5

    Great video. I honestly imagined the difference between speakers would be bigger - not sure I would be able to tell the difference in a blind test..

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Hi Peter, thank you for sharing your opinion with us and for your message!

    • @joelonsdale
      @joelonsdale 3 роки тому +2

      Audio gear is often like that - the differences are subtle and people get very passionate about comparitivly small differences in tone! I try not to get sucked in to it all, but as my ears get better, the difference become more noticeable...

  • @amritjanardhanan
    @amritjanardhanan 4 роки тому +8

    Amazing comparison! Here's what I thought:
    Distorted:
    1. Greenback - Full, with clear top end
    2. Blue - Full, but somewhat lacking in the top end with a "hollow" sound
    3. Cream - Full, but muddled top end
    4. Vintage 30 - Very thin, bleh.
    Clean:
    1. Blue - Full in mid range, a bit of a hollow sound, super clear top end and bottom! Awesome!
    2. Greenback - Top end is there but it lacks fullness
    3. Cream - Full-ish, but missing some of the "hollowness" and character of the blue
    4. Vintage 30 - Thin again. Also bleh

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you and thank you also for sharing your opinion with us!!! your description is very cleaver! Actually I also would use the Green for overdriven tones and the Blue for clean...

    • @decimusrex92
      @decimusrex92 3 роки тому +1

      Never really liked V30's but it took me decades to figure that out.
      Hearing celestions in a comparison like this makes me realize I put up with not liking my sound and blaming the guitar all this time.
      What happens when you assume kids ?!?!

    • @RG-yz8ov
      @RG-yz8ov 3 роки тому

      @@decimusrex92 I agree! Blue and green were so much better than the v30. I want to mix the blue with green in 2 x 12 wish the db's were the same

    • @Brian-qg8dg
      @Brian-qg8dg 2 роки тому +1

      @@RG-yz8ov you just have to put a little more into the V30. I think it has the most neutral sound, which means the amp, guitar and yourself make the tone. I used an Englad made V30 in 1x12, and it works great with all 3 of my small tube amps VOX, Blackstar and Ampeg. Just my opinion

    • @donnas8408
      @donnas8408 2 роки тому

      @@decimusrex92 Slash only uses V 30 for what’s it’s worth…

  • @ToddtheExploder
    @ToddtheExploder 4 роки тому

    Always employ G12T-75s from Ipswich. Can’t go wrong with ‘em.

  • @dostacos1
    @dostacos1 4 роки тому +2

    My takeaway? Get a quality Celestion and you’ll be in good shape. Nice video!

  • @silverfr3ak
    @silverfr3ak Рік тому +2

    Amazing job! And everything you did made it easier to compare.
    I never thought that the drive tunes would be where I'd notice the better the differences.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому

      Than you, I'm happy that you like the video!
      Thank you also for sharing your findings!

  • @seans.8487
    @seans.8487 Рік тому +1

    Great video gentlemen, really compared the character of each speaker very well. For me in order of most preferred to least preferred it would be 1. Alnico Blue 2. Greenback 3. Creamback and 4. Vintage 30. I think the Alnico gives the best overall sound, best for cleaner tones and retains that "chime" tone with a good strat. The Greenback comes in a close 2nd, ideal for a crunchier 412 cab tone. Creamback had a good tonal response. The Vintage 30 had the least expressive tone for me.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому +1

      Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Really appreciated!
      Thank you also for sharing your findings!!

  • @Em_Dee_Aitch
    @Em_Dee_Aitch 4 роки тому

    I wanted to hear them all together! And why did you choose to place each speaker where you did?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Hi Mark, there is not a specific reason why I put each speacker in each position...you can place where you want. Yes...I should do a part 2 with combination of speacker... I need to find the time...thank you for your message!

  • @davelee9111
    @davelee9111 4 роки тому +1

    I am interested to hear what they all sounded like together! could you gig with a cab like that?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +1

      Hi... well, you can gig...but in my opinion all 4 together are not the best solution: for instance I like the Greenback pared with the Alnico, but other combination does not sound so good in my opinion. On the other hand this cab is.a valuable solution for recording...still in my opinion. Thank you for your message!!!

    • @davelee9111
      @davelee9111 4 роки тому +1

      @@LeoGibsonGtr no, thank you for the very well thought out video and your reply! If you were building a 2x12 would you mix speakers or stick to one?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Hi Dave, I would mix...also in a 4x12 cab, but at max with two speakers types, for instance two Alnico and two Greenback.

  • @ZiuaChitarelor
    @ZiuaChitarelor Рік тому +1

    bravo eccellente come sempre, ho fatto anche io un test simile ma con coni diversi , il century , il century vintage , in leo cream back , and in neo vtype ... su una 4x12 engl...

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому

      Graze! Interessante e grazie per aver condiviso!!!

  • @hungry4des
    @hungry4des 4 роки тому +1

    I'm amazed how much the GB sounds like the Blue for clean tones. The Blue was the most "open" sounding, almost like there was more depth and space in the sound spectrum. The GB was very much like the Blue but less "airy" or slightly more "damped". I'm not sure how much that slight difference would translate in a live situation, so I'm wondering if I can get away with the cheaper GB and get the sound of a Blue that I like. The distorted tones are where the GB sounds different from the Blue. The Blue remained open with slightly more bass and slightly crispier highs. Since I already have a G12EVH (Heritage Greenback), I'm thinking I'll try the Blue next. Thanks for the great video!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you! Well, I'm currently gravitating towards a solution that combines two different speakers: for comping (clean or distorted) I'm combining Blue and Green (mixed left and right) and for soloing it depends...I'm still not sure...once I finish evaluating I'm gonna posting a video... Nevertheless, nowadays everybody combines different mics with the same speaker: in order to obtain a more original tone, I would like to combine different speakers in different situations (lead or comping)..because I think that they are complementing each other pretty amazingly... It's just an idea...and I've used this approach in this video: ua-cam.com/video/hLjuVqix1nw/v-deo.html. I would like to know your opinion also ... if you will... thank you once more!!!

    • @hungry4des
      @hungry4des 4 роки тому

      @@LeoGibsonGtr So, I've been mixing two speaker types in my 2x12 cabinets for the past year now. I'm doing this for live situations and I'm going for what sounds best to my ears. I'm transitioning over to the Vox MV50 amps because they fit on my pedal board. One amp for clean/overdrive and another amp for overdrive/distorted tones, each with its own 2x12 (easier to carry than 4x12). I mixed a G12EVH with a Peavey Scorpion, and that combination was nice with the Vox "Rock" amp. I mixed a G12H Anniversary with a Peavey Scorpion for the Vox "AC" amp, and that combination worked well also, but I'm still trying different things. When mixing speakers, I noticed that to my ear the ones that sounded nice for clean didn't sound nice for distortion and vice versa. I saw that they were selling certain combinations online, and I decided to try what they did. Right now I've combined the G12EVH and G12H Anniversary (recommended mix for blues/overdrive) with the Vox "Rock" amp, and it's much louder (100dB SPL) and a good combo. I also have combined the G12T75 and G12V30 (recommended mix for hard rock/distortion) with the Vox "AC" amp, and it's also much louder (100dB SPL) and nice for clean tones. I'm considering the Alnico Blue to replace the V30 because it's always seemed a bit harsh in the mid-range. I'm hoping the Blue will be smoother in the mid-range while also staying loud (100dB SPL). So far, the most versatile and pleasing in most situations has been the G12EVH. The V30 only sounds good in recordings. The G12T75 has been versatile also, it can do anything acceptably, but not excel, even in my 4x12. That's one thing people say also, that nothing compares to a 4x12, no matter what speaker it is. What is your opinion of V30 vs. Blue in live a situation? Thanks for the great video!

  • @MartinStromer85
    @MartinStromer85 4 роки тому

    Great video, a hard work well done!
    I have a 50 watts Gurus Cicognani monoclean head, with Preamp tubes 2x12AX7/ECC83 and
    Power tubes 2x5881/6L6GC; I would like to match it with a 2x12 open back cabinet for more airy sound.
    I play in a band with another guitarist, a bassist, a drummer, a singer, and our music genre goes from rock-pop to mid-gain rock.
    I'm so undecided among 2 Vintage 30, 2 Greenbacks G12M 25 or 2 Creambacks M65, and I have only the possibility to purchase them online without trying them first: I'd like a good sound that cut through the mix without being too trebly or harsh in a band sound.
    In your experience, and taking in consideration all the particulars written above, which speakers do you suggest among those three?
    P.s. At the moment I can't do a mix of different speakers in the same cab, maybe in the future

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +1

      Hi, thank you for your message and your interest in my channel! This is a pretty hard question to answer. I've changed mind and opinions many times: there was a time when I was all in for Vintage 30, then Greenbacks, than vintage 30 again....I can tell you that currently I've come to this set up: Greenbacks for distorted sounds and Jensen for clean tones. And I think that the Vintage 30 is a good compromise between the two if you cannot bring with you two different types of cabs...so tipically for live use. Please take into consideration that I can change my mind in future...as I already did many times...:) even becaouse it also dipends by the amp you I'm using.
      Thank you once more for your question and please, if you want, let me know you final choiche!

    • @MartinStromer85
      @MartinStromer85 4 роки тому

      @@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks for the kind and detailed answer! Maybe there is only one thing to do: the famous German site allows to try music gear and return them if you are not satisfied, I should take a cab with Greenbacks and a cab with V30, and then decide. For Creambacks of mixing speakers, I will give them a try in the future...

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому +1

      That's a good idea...I'm pretty curious to know your final decision...so, if you want, please share it with us! Thank you once more!

  • @JulioJustiniano
    @JulioJustiniano 4 роки тому +2

    My choices
    Distorion: Blue and Green
    Clean: Blue and Cream
    Winner: Blue

  • @johngibbons3138
    @johngibbons3138 Рік тому

    Amazing video!
    I'm a V30 and Alnico Blue guy. I can't seem to like greenbacks as they sound dull to me.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
      Thank you also for sharing your findings!!!

  • @silviopimentel7247
    @silviopimentel7247 2 роки тому

    Hard to tell from my side but from ur side wonder witch one u found more versatile or the one with most midrange?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому +1

      Maybe the more versatile and mid raingy is the Greenback. I tipically use greenbacks for comping and V30 for solo...
      Thank you for your message!

    • @silviopimentel7247
      @silviopimentel7247 2 роки тому

      @@LeoGibsonGtr thanks brother ✌

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      You are welcome!

  • @marcoschauman8607
    @marcoschauman8607 4 роки тому +2

    Very inspiring video! I will build a Frankenstein cab with 10" speakers. Celestion is launching a 10" Creamback soon!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Thank you Marco!!! Let us know about your Frankenstein cab!

  • @scottzietlow1944
    @scottzietlow1944 4 роки тому +3

    Green for Distortion
    Blue for Clean

  • @aleksup6965
    @aleksup6965 3 роки тому +1

    sei un grande

  • @kaybhee6
    @kaybhee6 4 роки тому +1

    groovy

  • @Louisxs650
    @Louisxs650 Рік тому

    What's the best colour for playing early Metallica songs ?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Рік тому

      Hi, among the 4 of this video, I would say V30...but I'm not sure
      Thank you for your question!

  • @_Killian
    @_Killian 5 років тому +1

    Cream back sounded the worse to me, followed by the vintage 30. The greenback sounded the most balanced but I thought the alnico blue had the best clean tone out of all, awesome video man! I’m going green back!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  5 років тому

      Thank you Killian! Another option is to combine them...for instance an Alnico Blue with a Greenback... I'm currently experimenting with different combinations... with a lot of fun...😊

  • @xijinpingsfavoritehemorrho1328
    @xijinpingsfavoritehemorrho1328 2 роки тому +1

    This is exactly the type of extremely precise, anal comparison i love. This was clearly a ton of work but it helped me decide which celestion i like, and which one i like and can afford. That blue is sweeeet though. Had a feeling v30s had that butt rock mesa thing i dislike as standard, and this comparo confirmed im more of a greenback guy.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому

      Hi, thank you, I'm happy that you like the video!!!
      Lately I'm also using more and more greenbacks...
      Thank you for your message!

  • @dezionlion
    @dezionlion Рік тому

    Here’s an idea, put one mic on a blue for cleans, and a mic on the ceramic for distorted, and an a/b/y for both!

  • @pedroalmeida7066
    @pedroalmeida7066 4 роки тому +2

    Very Well Made Video. This is Personal and although I think the Greenback, the blues and the V30 each have something special to give the CreambackM has some kind of Congestioned Mids through MY ears. Maybe a H magnet either a Greenback 30h or the CreamBack75h (that I actually prefer to the GreenbackH30) would have something different to the others (very open sounding, tight bass, pristine highs. Slightly less mids buts gives great fullness to the sound. Others that I have curiosity to hear someday compared is the Original Creamback the g12 65 (www.thomann.de/pt/celestion_g12_65_8_ohm.htm)

  • @gigmandrew8975
    @gigmandrew8975 3 роки тому +1

    Green back for me

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!

  • @ahmetayaz41
    @ahmetayaz41 3 роки тому +3

    Creambackkkk

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!

  • @Calagamberr0
    @Calagamberr0 3 роки тому +2

    Is it me or V30 and blue are very close?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, in my opinion the difference is not night to day, but subtle
      Thank you for your message!

    • @user-fb8yb8so8n
      @user-fb8yb8so8n 2 роки тому

      The V30 was designed to behave like an alnico speaker apparently? I notice results vary.

  • @chriswilson8062
    @chriswilson8062 4 роки тому +1

    BLUES EVERY TIME!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!

  • @gibson2623
    @gibson2623 2 роки тому +1

    I really don t like the V30s.....Like all the others. I wanted to buy a orange ppc212 cabinet, but they come with v30s.....Shit mannnnn. We should be able to specify the speakers we want when buying a cabinet from them. No way i m getting V30s. Great test as usual Leo. Thanks mate !

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому +1

      You are welcome! I'm happy to have been of some help!

  • @diwattos
    @diwattos 3 роки тому +1

    I have all celestion speakers the blue 15ohm is the best

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion and experience!

  • @iancurrie8844
    @iancurrie8844 5 місяців тому

    Huh. I thought I was a V30 guy but the greenbacks are speaking to me here.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  5 місяців тому

      HI thank you for sharing!!!
      Yes....I do agree with you....actually, like you, I was a V30 guy...but then I discovered I like a lot Greens....😀