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  • @JIOSGIABLOS
    @JIOSGIABLOS 12 днів тому +562

    If Apple will get away with removing the charging port, Samsung will make fun of it. But all of them will follow suit. I don't like supporting that.

    • @kumbandit
      @kumbandit 12 днів тому

      Sadly most large companies are brain-dead, they'd make zombies starve to death. They see someone being successful and instead of looking into what makes it that, hey let's just copy the most obvious thing they're doing...

    • @SCP-tn2ln
      @SCP-tn2ln 12 днів тому +28

      Apple removed the audio jack in 2016, it's been almost 10 years and other phones still have them, so why would this be the same?
      Edit: must be an American thing of them being so smooth brain to not do their research, but with phones from 2022 and onwards 817/1366 phones have audio jack, sure, some flagship phones don't have them, but that's more of a you problem for buying them and then complaining about it

    • @halomika4973
      @halomika4973 12 днів тому +49

      ​@@SCP-tn2ln Very few of the bigger ones do

    • @SetOfAllSets
      @SetOfAllSets 12 днів тому +13

      ​@@SCP-tn2lnwhat phones still have headphone jacks?

    • @andrewhuggins8146
      @andrewhuggins8146 12 днів тому

      Years ago when i bought my pixel 3a. It was a major plus to have a headphone jack and it did, and i loved it and i rarely used it, i never used headphones actually, but it was very useful for connecting to car stereos. Now i have the 6a, no more headphone jack, no more music. 😢​@@SCP-tn2ln

  • @cyphaborg6598
    @cyphaborg6598 12 днів тому +445

    If they can buy Apple metrics for 20 billion imagine how cheap politicians are lol.

    • @MetaMdad
      @MetaMdad 12 днів тому +71

      I have heard of coal and oil companies buying off politicians for as little as 10k. I was actually pretty insulted at that price.

    • @doodlethenoodle1212
      @doodlethenoodle1212 12 днів тому +19

      think i've seen a graph somewhere showing that some go for as low as 2k$ to shill for your company

    • @NiTeHaWKnz
      @NiTeHaWKnz 12 днів тому +14

      Last I heard, Meta has paid out $4MUSD for the tiktok ban.

    • @blindfire3167
      @blindfire3167 12 днів тому +10

      @@MetaMdad Yeah, there's a town I live in near Houston in Texas, we have a total of 3 oil refineries, and another 9 other types of chemical plants and so on. It's pretty obvious that this town along with another nearby part of Houston is being polluted to the point where it's concerning and Abbott allows it since he's defended these oil/gas companies for so long. He's absolutely bought out easily.

    • @notsheram
      @notsheram 11 днів тому

      There's actually data and reports on politicians being bought off. You should look into it. It's shocking to say the least. Some politicians change their votes for as little as a weekend in a beach resort or a gift basket with french wines and cheeses.

  • @Paz_Soldan
    @Paz_Soldan 12 днів тому +148

    "How do I address (fanboy behavior??)" You don't. Ever. Since time immemorial.

  • @glennwatson
    @glennwatson 12 днів тому +49

    I don't see what Linus has against a good ceiling fan. They can help cool in the summer.

    • @daltoonybob
      @daltoonybob 8 днів тому +2

      fans don't cool. in fact they heat.

    • @sabokizi
      @sabokizi 7 днів тому +10

      ​@@daltoonybob Humans cool down by radiating heat from the skin into the ambient air. If the air is still, the skin will heat up this air but then will have trouble radiating any further heat. Fans prevent the ambient air from being still. Which means that the heated air (by the skin) will quickly be replaced by cooler air. In the grand scheme of things, fans do heat (second law of thermodynamics). However saying they don't cool humans is incorrect.

    • @henrynowinski4509
      @henrynowinski4509 7 днів тому +3

      @@sabokizi jesus christ you killed him

    • @solitivity
      @solitivity 4 дні тому

      @sabokizi Damn bro, you didn't have to do 'em like that. 😭

  • @krank23
    @krank23 12 днів тому +69

    "Don't be a fan" is generally good advice. Don't be loyal to brands, or celebrities, or games. I know our dumb monkey brains like belonging to teams and throwing feces at the opposition, but I definitely feel like there's value in resisting that impulse. Being a fan means making worse decisions both long and short erm, benefitting mostly just the parasites at the top - the executives, the shareholders. And I think you know how much loyalty they feel towards you. It's a one way street.

  • @michaelkreitzer1369
    @michaelkreitzer1369 12 днів тому +60

    I bought an AMD A9 chip because it served my needs and I wanted to support market competition. That purchase was _objectively_ good for me because it helped an Intel competitor survive long enough to get us to where we are now. I threw them a bone while their product was good enough, and today we don't have a monopoly.

    • @robeagleR
      @robeagleR 11 днів тому +7

      Yeah now we have a Duopoly 😅

    • @CrAzYpotpie
      @CrAzYpotpie 11 днів тому +7

      The statement of a single man who looks at his singular contribution as if it held some immense power, truly funny. Sure, you were but a miniscule cog in a giant array of stacks of cogs, but lets state it in a grand way where you compress hundreds of thousands to millions down to yourself to sound more important.

    • @michaelkreitzer1369
      @michaelkreitzer1369 11 днів тому +24

      @@CrAzYpotpie The flood doesn't exist without the drops. You're free to read any ego between the lines that you wish, but it only makes you sound oddly angry while missing the point. Even if AMD had ultimately failed, I'd have still bought that A9 for the same reason.
      The point is that there are rational reasons to purchase technically inferior products that meet your needs. Any grand narrative about how I'm the sole savior of AMD is just silly nonsense you made up and injected. I'd recommend some introspection as to why you would.

    • @Arch-Propagandist-Sage
      @Arch-Propagandist-Sage 11 днів тому +4

      ​@@michaelkreitzer1369 I will always remember a green mushroom saving my cpu.

    • @CrAzYpotpie
      @CrAzYpotpie 11 днів тому +2

      @@michaelkreitzer1369 I wasn't reading ego between the lines, I read your poorly chosen words directly as they were and explained it all along the way. You getting upset that that was pointed out to you really isn't my problem.

  • @4li145
    @4li145 12 днів тому +59

    Love the product, not the brand

    • @ashishpj
      @ashishpj 11 днів тому +1

      yeah, this should reflect in every aspects of life.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 10 днів тому +6

      Love the product. Hold the brand accountable to live up to that product's image in the future.

    • @johnsalamii
      @johnsalamii 9 днів тому +1

      thats why i love macbooks yet fucking hate apple

  • @nocare
    @nocare 12 днів тому +12

    Hanlon's razor is not about being blind to malice, its about not assuming malice. Rarely do you have to make a decision about something immediately, you can almost always gather more information. So rather than assuming ignorance or assuming malice you should get more information.
    Design you life and interactions so that as many scenarios as possible allow you to get that information.
    However, in those rare instances where you must make an assumption you have no time left and need a decision now. Choose to assume ignorance rather than malice and probabilistically you will be correct.
    That's hanlon's razor.

    • @NovanByworks
      @NovanByworks 8 днів тому +3

      It's also worth considering that Hanlon's razor was originally submitted for a joke book, so maybe people shouldn't be taking it as seriously as they do.

    • @nocare
      @nocare 8 днів тому +2

      ​@@NovanByworks I don't think that matters.
      Firstly similar statements date back well before Hanlon's razor in diffrent forms.
      The version that became popularized due to timing and coincidence, has no bearing on that validity or lack thereof of the actual philosophical claim being made.
      We use Schrodinger's cat to describe a superposition of states but Schrodinger made up the cat analogy to try and show how ridiculous and stupid he thought the concept was.
      Just cause Schrodinger thought it was a good analogy to help his position doesn't mean he was correct.
      Secondly and more importantly, arguments and value claims should stand on their own.
      Meaning the intent, circumstances, or values of the speaker are irrelevant.
      We only place value on those things because we don't use rational thinking to determine truth,
      People use trust, appeals to authority, and emotional expediency.
      None of which actually gives you true answers.

  • @TheNexusGen
    @TheNexusGen 12 днів тому +65

    I was a Microsoft fan for a few years. I had an Xbox One S, W10 PC +Surface Pro, and even a Lumia 950 XL. Stuff started dying and I didn't matter. Learned my lesson.

    • @chickenindabox3169
      @chickenindabox3169 12 днів тому +14

      that mustve stung pretty badly, Microsoft is probably one of the worst brands to be a fan of

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast 11 днів тому +2

      I got the first Surface Pro and Band 2 *super* cheap and really liked them but the company is just despicable. What they did to the Band and Band 2 was really disgusting.

    • @KillOnS
      @KillOnS 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@chickenindabox3169It's really between them and apple lol

    • @TheBucketSkill
      @TheBucketSkill 9 днів тому +1

      Oof not even a 360 loyalist... brutal

  • @GarrettCrespo
    @GarrettCrespo 12 днів тому +152

    I’ll make the argument that it’s ok to be a fan. But it’s NOT ok to be a fanboy. The difference being that fans like products or services, but will think for themselves and critique the company they like. Fanboys are the kind of people who think that the company they like can do no wrong and will defend everything they do without out a single thought of their own

    • @SammyNail
      @SammyNail 12 днів тому +19

      As a Millennial over the age of 30 who goes to Disney on the regular, I cant agree with your statement more.
      I love the parks, but in general dislike what Disney puts out movie/tv/streaming wise. The last movie they put out under their own branding was Princess And The Frog, that was 2009. When i meet others who love the parks like me, they are often flabbergasted that I think the Disney product overall is trash and even loudly critique their faux-leftist ideals as a way to just make more money off those easily manipulated on that side of the fence. Even more shocking to those people is when they find out that not only am I leftist I'm also an LGBTA+ person as well. Despite all that though, I love the parks. There really isn't anyone going as hard in the paint on theming and immersive physical spaces as them. Universal is thankfully starting to close that gap, and I really want them to overtake Disney just so they'd stop relying on "being the best".
      Sorry I'm rambling now lol

    • @Icon1306
      @Icon1306 12 днів тому +5

      Being a Stan is not okay.

    • @axeavier
      @axeavier 12 днів тому +2

      ​@@SammyNail To each their own , I found the best star wars movie was the one Disney made, that being RO.
      Pixar still makes pretty fantastic movies. Nevertheless, even if for the sake of argument that disney made everything the way you liked it, that doesn't mean they should be supported. They still screw over a lot of people

    • @georgehelyar
      @georgehelyar 12 днів тому +2

      ​@@axeavierrogue one was good but it wasn't the only one Disney made. That's more like a stopped clock being right twice a day

    • @2435Bits
      @2435Bits 12 днів тому +4

      @@georgehelyar I mean this goes to the point more. You can like individual products, but also be willing to acknowledge that the brand can, and probably has, shitty products as well.

  • @_____alyptic
    @_____alyptic 11 днів тому +8

    Or go after 'Big Tech' as a whole:
    Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, Alphabet

  • @gerowen
    @gerowen 12 днів тому +28

    11:58 The "anything but" argument can be a powerful motivator. If company A makes a better product, but they're a royal piece of doody who employs child slaves, and company B makes a worse product and is slightly less horrible, I will probably buy from company B, maybe even if it means spending a little more money for a worse product. There are limits to this obviously; the product still needs to fulfill the purpose I'm purchasing it for, but the "anything but" argument is definitely something that factors into my buying choices.

    • @gh8447
      @gh8447 11 днів тому +1

      Bang on. That's part of the reason why I don't buy Apple products - my conscience just won't let me.

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 5 днів тому

      Thats just dumb.

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 5 днів тому

      @@gh8447cry about it

    • @tech6hutch
      @tech6hutch 5 днів тому

      Does any company do differently?

    • @gerowen
      @gerowen 3 дні тому

      @@REXae86 That's your opinion, but the days of blind capitalism are ending. Today's shoppers care about doing business with companies that align with their values. It's not good enough to just make a good product any more; if you're a racist or you're dishonest or you do some other morally reprehensible thing, you're going to lose customers. That's just a fact of life in today's economy.

  • @Bash70
    @Bash70 11 днів тому +6

    Linus' point on people complaining about whataboutism is spot on. You don't get to complain about it when you are engaging in blatant hypocrisy and double standards. And even more so when the people complaining are doing it themselves to deflect criticism.

  • @kingzach74
    @kingzach74 12 днів тому +17

    I'm blown away at how AMD stock is over 5 times higher than Intel now. That's mind blowing.

    • @JMassa
      @JMassa 12 днів тому +1

      Market cap is only about 2x that of intel

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast 11 днів тому +2

      Only if you're stuck in the bulldozer era.

    • @JeffDM
      @JeffDM 11 днів тому +2

      @@JMassa yep you compare the value of companies by market cap not price of an individual share.

    • @shadowwsk3507
      @shadowwsk3507 9 днів тому

      That's not how shares work

  • @axeavier
    @axeavier 12 днів тому +55

    I guarantee people will gladly pile on Apple in saying they've always hated it, give a bunch of reasons but will gladly go about their day liking other corporations while being more trustful of them. I wish we could get to a point where people realize not a single corporation tech or otherwise can be trusted and they will all screw you over as an employee or customer if and when they get the chance. Like in the case of apple, while they're obviously against right to repair but people don't make a single peep like with other companies like samsung. While Samsung does offer parts which is good, they still funnel money into organizations who's sole intent is to be representatives in court cases to shoot down any bills for R2R which is awful. Samsung should not be getting a pass in this situation.
    This should not be the who's marginally better olympics. Regardless of what it is whether it deals with people's health, worker's rights, R2R, taxation of corps, anything, people should be heavily interested in dismantling the power that they have and not giving them more

    • @suspiciousfish1854
      @suspiciousfish1854 12 днів тому +3

      Not reading all that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kingzach74
      @kingzach74 12 днів тому +3

      I don't buy either Apple or Samsung. If ever I buy a phone or a tech device, I never buy directly from a retailer where money will go directly to that tech company. I almost always try to buy 3rd party.

    • @oliverdurgen5953
      @oliverdurgen5953 12 днів тому

      you don't have to trust a game company. for fucks sake... so fucking dramatic...
      just buy games or don't. its not life or death or taxes or food or health insurance or electricity... it's juts games... holy fuck man. it's. just. games........ some are bad and some are good.... same as it ever was. the companies that make them are never going to tell you when they are bad.... you don't need to trust them. just assume they re going to lie to you....
      by them or don't...the choice is yours...it doesn't fuckin matter... god damn...there WAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!! more important issues in society, yeah? so don't fuckin play games and you wont have to worry about it.

    • @atyj1
      @atyj1 11 днів тому +9

      ​@@suspiciousfish1854your loss
      Why even comment that anyway

    • @edmunns8825
      @edmunns8825 11 днів тому

      @axeavier well said sir!

  • @reactionaryprinciplegaming
    @reactionaryprinciplegaming 12 днів тому +15

    Ironically, there are some pieces of clothing I would have got from LTTStore, but I didn't because it had an LTT logo on them.

    • @SegmentW
      @SegmentW 12 днів тому +1

      The 3 black t-shirts I got from LTTStore are the nicest black t-shirts I've ever owned and my entire family agrees and none of them know what LTT is lol.

    • @orlagh277
      @orlagh277 10 днів тому +2

      I think they recognize that a lot of people think that way and that there's some stigma about wearing "youtuber" branded stuff. that's why they minimize their own branding and a lot of their clothing only have a small logo in one spot.

  • @Qwertworks
    @Qwertworks 11 днів тому +4

    I bought a bulldozer CPU. FX8350. I did my research at the time and knew it was kinda bad (maybe I didn’t exactly know *how* bad it was). It seemed to be enough for my gaming needs (and honestly it was) and the boards were cheaper … but a big reason was supporting the underdog.
    I also use Firefox even though other browsers have more features that I would like to have over here on Firefox land. But I don’t want the last non chromium browser to die.
    (Well there’s also Safari … I forgot xD … but not on Windows at least

    • @Nina-cd2eh
      @Nina-cd2eh 10 днів тому +1

      I got an 8350 back when it came out, just because it was cheap and had plenty of cores and high frequencies. It's what I could afford, and it turned out great. Still works equally as well, and no issues beyond it not comparing to modern cpus. They were pretty VFM back then, and no amount of complaining would have made me, or anyone I knew, buy the equivalent Intel at that time.

  • @pizzabuff
    @pizzabuff 12 днів тому +7

    They insist on not seeing Apple's flaws because recognizing the company they truely are makes people feel insecure about themselves for liking the product. Good thing I don't even like the product.

  • @Zero
    @Zero 12 днів тому +3

    I agree, they only do what's good for their sales.
    They sold me a $300 magic keyboard for my iPad and $150 apple pencil and not even two years later they no longer work with the new ipad coming out.
    If they cared about the environment they would have supported these expensive accessories longer with newer devices.

  • @_Rackham
    @_Rackham 12 днів тому +18

    Apple fandom is for 2 kinds of people, those who don't know anything about tech and those who think it is some kind of status symbol, both behaviours are npc-like. Champion a product if it deserves it, not a company.

    • @Qwertworks
      @Qwertworks 11 днів тому +7

      I wouldn’t quite agree. I have used and still use a PC and a Mac. I would never get a Mac desktop but the MacBook has been so much better to use than many of the Windows laptops I’ve ever had. They are by far not perfect and there are definitely things I prefer on windows over macOS. But Apple does make good products. They are just hopelessly overpriced. It’s just a question of if these things are enough to justify the price to oneself. And for a lot of people it’s not. But it’s not like everyone who buys Apple products has no idea of tech.

    • @Khalmoon
      @Khalmoon 10 днів тому +5

      People keep assuming that every person with an iPhone in their hand has tim cook in the other hand. That's not always true. Some people just looked at the competition and said... nope I like this one most. Same with Xbox, PS & Switch.

    • @dankrigby5621
      @dankrigby5621 9 днів тому +1

      @@Qwertworks notice he said "apple fandom" and not "apple users". i would assume he is refering to the people that always glorify apple and cant take any criticism for their products.

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 5 днів тому

      Or those that just want a phone that works 😂

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 5 днів тому

      @@KhalmoonTHIS!! Is the comment. Majority doesn’t care about this fanboy bs

  • @triccks6184
    @triccks6184 12 днів тому +55

    Man, I'm a fan of Linus Media Group lol

    • @rickkarrer8370
      @rickkarrer8370 12 днів тому +8

      Linus’ head going to explode lol.

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka 11 днів тому +3

      Bro, he explicitly told you to NOT 😂

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast 11 днів тому +2

      Don't be. You heard him.

  • @jaughnekow
    @jaughnekow 12 днів тому +73

    "we're apple, we love finding new ways to scam you. give us all your money."

    • @breadone_
      @breadone_ 12 днів тому +4

      as its every tech company. apple ain’t alone at all

    • @jaughnekow
      @jaughnekow 12 днів тому +6

      @@breadone_ with other companies, it's okay to call them out but when it's Apple, the fans become triggered.

    • @qu3nt
      @qu3nt 11 днів тому +1

      ios is objectively best mobile OS if i could switch to android and have the same user experience i would.And i buy mostly 2 or 3 years old products or cheap versions like iphone SE.

    • @justyouraveragegamer6142
      @justyouraveragegamer6142 11 днів тому

      ​​​​@@qu3nt I mean ios is so limited tho. No custom apps or other stores. No searching Google for whatever app you want and Installing the APK directly onto your device. Forced removal of things that a majority of users still use. Like the headphone jack back in the day for example. (I know that was a while ago just the easiest argument for that) But in terms of OS. Sure it's refined. But it's extremely limited to only what apple allows you to have. There's no freedom. And that works for your average joe who knows nothing about phones or tech in general and just wants a phone. But for people who actually use their devices to the fullest and everything they can do. People who love customization and freedom to download and play anything that they want that happens to exist out there on the Internet. Android is just plain better as an OS. The amount of games I've gotten on my phone. Like fan ports of console games. Or just random indie games off gamejolt or something. Stuff that has nothing to do with Google play. Just downloaded off the website and installed myself. It's great. Or emulators are another thing. The fact it took apple this long to allow an emulator on their store is crazy. Even if there were no emulators that you liked on Google Play you could go download retroarch off Google and install it directly to your phone. The sheer freedom and customization of Android OS. And the fact that you can download everything and anything that happens to exist on the internet to your heart's desire. Whatever apps whatever games you find that you decide that you want out there you can just get without even using the store. It allows such a bigger freedom that ios has never even tried to replicate. iPhones are pretty much just phones first and foremost. They can't really do much else. Which is unfortunate because the user experience is really good and their actual operating system is very well refined. (Even if I find the lack of buttons on the bottom of the screen odd. Like not having a back button, a home button, or a task view button is crazy to me and really inconvenient) but it's a very refined operating system but that just means that you can't do half the things that you can do with an Android. Honestly it's a very similar thing to Windows versus Mac. Mac is a very refined operating system with a lot of things that just work better on it. Like a lot of adobe products happen to work better on Apple devices. But Windows has versatility. As unoptimized as Windows can be. It allows for such a more customizable user experience. And you're not limited to "but does it work on mac?" Or "does it even exist on Mac" which granted that's less of a thing now. But there are still a good number of games that I play that are not available on Mac at all. Or apps that I use that aren't available on Mac. Windows simply has the versatility and the majority of things made for it. Which is a similar argument for Android. Basically I'm saying Android is the windows of the phone world. Unoptimized yes. But the versatility is unmatched.

    • @qu3nt
      @qu3nt 11 днів тому

      @@justyouraveragegamer6142 you can load the .ipa if you know how to do it tho. however i was just talking of iOS not apple in general.

  • @dyoverdx
    @dyoverdx 12 днів тому +3

    15:54 so it looks like there's hope for anker/eufy

  • @drackar
    @drackar 12 днів тому +2

    I bought bulldozer because it was on steep, steep discount at the end of it's life, and I was broke AF. That CPU lasted me most of a decade.

  • @0xTJ
    @0xTJ 12 днів тому +4

    When I was last shopping for a GPU, the salesperson at Canada Computers was trying to get me to switch to an Nvidia card at a similar price, but their recent actions as a company have pissed me off, so I'm not interested in buying a product from them for a little while. I'm not a fan of AMD, but they've done fewer notable bad things that I've cared about recently, so they got my money that time.
    Same reason that I don't own a Switch, even though I really want one; Nintendo's actions towards the creators and their customers have made me not want to hand over my money.

  • @kingzach74
    @kingzach74 12 днів тому +5

    I'm not a "fan" of any company but I do try to support the underdogs whenever I can. Mostly because I support competition and giving money to only the companies that are the most successful doesn't make sense to me.

  • @natetheaverage5270
    @natetheaverage5270 11 днів тому +2

    I go on a bike tour in Michigan called DALMAC and occasionally I'll see people with an AMD jersey and I always wondered where they got it, I guess it's just a thing they sell. $35 is a pretty reasonable price for a good bike jersey, I kinda want one now.

  • @dosesandmimoses
    @dosesandmimoses 12 днів тому +1

    Thank you for this important message.. I really appreciate the team’s collaboration to bring awareness to the community. Gratitude… competition is the fundamental basis of capitalism. There is enough to go around for everyone! Thanks for having the sac to say it

  • @OrangeC7
    @OrangeC7 12 днів тому +3

    "Act like it personally, just don't act like it publicly" Linus' face looks so disappointed after Luke said that lol

  • @MrRecorder1
    @MrRecorder1 9 днів тому

    10:00 - I was a student in ~2010 and could afford my fx-6300 for 50 Euros (only CPU... I had to resort to buying a "Rasurbo" PSU because of budget constraints... urgh). It seemed like a good tradeoff to me for doing some gaming but mainly compiling C++ projects. It did fine and I ran it until 2019. It struggled but kept up!

  • @mrembeh1848
    @mrembeh1848 11 днів тому

    There is still a big difference between a date that your phone could collect and the data that your browser could ever collect. Health data motion data pictures location… that is passive data there is always collected even without your active input. that is vastly different to what you’re searching deliberately.

  • @zeshwonsos
    @zeshwonsos 12 днів тому +2

    Or base your fandom on true value. price/performance. Price includes your data, attention and money. Performance includes power, platform and flexibility.

  • @micahvisser3772
    @micahvisser3772 9 днів тому +2

    For the argument around if everyone bought the best product it would become a monopoly, I understand the reasoning/perspective. But for products that aren't for specs, people's needs can differ a lot. M&K is the best for shooters, but I play with a controller because of my cerebral palsy. There will almost always be an audience for alternative products.

  • @renchesandsords
    @renchesandsords 12 днів тому +4

    "it's hard to find a similar example in the tech space" didn't this topic start with Apple? They've been doing the anti repair/consumer thing for a while

  • @Jackaroe702
    @Jackaroe702 11 днів тому +3

    I have an example of competition being bad: streaming services

    • @auslanderalex5464
      @auslanderalex5464 10 днів тому +1

      My counter argument to that is that the studios are engaging in anticompetative behavour by licencing to only one streaming service, instead of selling it to all the streaming services. (Even worse some studios own streaming platforms)
      If you are an American you already have a system in place to prevent such behavour in the auto industry. Auto dealerships and manufacturers must be seperate. It should be done with studios and streaming services for the same reason.

  • @skeleton_craftGaming
    @skeleton_craftGaming 12 днів тому +6

    The trust part of antitrust law is when these companies would go & non-compete agreements forming intercompany trusts. Antitrustful law isn't anti-monopoly law It is anti-anti-competitive behavior law which is why you see the government weighing things like are these companies being anti-competitive not just are these companies monopolies...

  • @Shreyasrangasai
    @Shreyasrangasai 12 днів тому +2

    I have another situation not discussed here, where you might buy an objectively worse brand. This pertains to the idea of vote with your wallet. If a company has the best product but have bad practices, then choosing to not support that company is not a clown decision. You still have a need and hence fill that with the next best item not from that brand.

  • @Balancatraca
    @Balancatraca 11 днів тому +2

    never forget that sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistiguishable from malice...

    • @emporioalnino4670
      @emporioalnino4670 4 дні тому

      Stupidity or malice, I don't really care. If the outcome is bad, the outcome is bad.

  • @bubbasplants189
    @bubbasplants189 12 днів тому +4

    its ok linus i love you.

  • @EndureTyrant
    @EndureTyrant 12 днів тому +3

    I think its okay to buy an inferior product if you do it because you're more interested in market competition than having the best thing. Basically fueling competition rather than buying the best experience possible. Its like the guy at LTT who dailys ARC because he's an enthusiast. He wants intel to succeed, but its obvious its inferior for most workloads.

  • @Wolvey10
    @Wolvey10 12 днів тому +2

    I’d love to see an episode where you guys deep dive the food industry 🤣

  • @Genesis8934
    @Genesis8934 12 днів тому +2

    4:40 Depending on levels of fanaticism, any sort of "Apologist" type of person for a business feels like a (slow?) slide into a corporate hellscape you see in dystopian media content (i.e., Continuum, Cyberpunk 2077).
    edit: 10:35 What Luke mentions is something I did for a while after I built my first PC. I avoided Seagate as a drive manufacturer because I got a bad drive in my first build. I went straight to WD. Until recently (within the last 5 years), I maintained that stance, and now I feel comfortable buying used drives on the cheap.

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast 11 днів тому +1

      Funnily enough I had the opposite experience. I had several WD drives die and didn't buy another one for like 15 years.

  • @chubbyBunny94
    @chubbyBunny94 20 годин тому

    Pls, can someone help me. What phone should I use then? I currently have an iPhone and other Apple devices

  • @XionEternum
    @XionEternum 10 днів тому

    My first custom built PC I made for myself was an AMD Phenom 9850 BE on an AM2+/AM3 motherboard. At the time, they were competitive with Intel per dollar.
    Later I upgraded to a Phenom II 1100T as it scaled nicely and was still competitive with Intel. Plus I didn't have to swap out my MB.
    Later I ran into an instruction set incompatibility so I weighed my options. I could get an FX 9590 for $200 and compatible MB for another $200, or I could replace my MB, CPU, and RAM for about $1000 for maybe 20% better performance. I chose the FX. And I ran it all the way to the Ryzen 1800X. Do I regret any part of it? No. I made the correct financial choices. It was functional for me within my budget at the time.

  • @laitinlok1
    @laitinlok1 12 днів тому +5

    Well I feel like just some people will buy a AMD GPU for better Linux compatibility than Nvidia

  • @hybrid9mm
    @hybrid9mm 12 днів тому +2

    Competition does drive innovation you only have to look at the worst example of competition (war) for proof.

  • @steveashford2721
    @steveashford2721 10 днів тому

    people sometimes forget that the etymology of 'fan' is fanatic nut you've only got to look in a few forums about certain things the see the fanaticism

  • @WyvernDotRed
    @WyvernDotRed 9 днів тому

    The one large company I consider myself a fan of to a limited degree is Valve.
    Which is for all the work put into the Linux ecosystem for the Steam Deck, adequately supporting old hardware and having a rather complete social media network deeper in the site that serves as a sound backup for all platforms I currently use outside of UA-cam.
    While I do continue to look at them critically, if I get the choice between a Valve product that is adequate or something else which is better, I will pick the Valve option.
    Examples being generally buying games from then instead of Itch or GOG and now using a second-hand Steam Controller as a remote.
    The Deck is not, as it's the best, in some ways one-of-a-kind device for me that I have found 4 different uses for; as a Linux tablet, an improvised media player, a general game controller and the intended on-device gaming usage.
    While I do like Motorola, Lenovo, AMD and Intel (on anything but CPUs for a few more years) more than the rest, here I do still objectively compare before making a choice of product.
    There I do first look at said brand's offerings and strongly recommend them for their track record of good products, emphasising that not all releases are good.
    The people having made their choice on said recommendations having been satisfied with the picked products and those holding up well.

  • @hill2hell
    @hill2hell 11 днів тому

    That's mostly how it works in society, that's why they say "a full can is quiet, an empty can makes noise." because people who can't think for themselves are often the ones who voice their concerns the most, and on the other hand the people who are wise enough to realize things are often letting other people do their thing out of respect and common decency.
    Also the analogy of a wise person sees the bigger picture, while the ignorant sees only a part of it. Wise people tend to notice the flaws in these things because they can analyze the whole thing and not just what's shown or told to them.

  • @GregOughton
    @GregOughton 12 днів тому +1

    Haha I bought a bulldozer chip because I didn't know better and memory express had it and the compatible mobo on sale for cheap. That and the hand-me down 4890 kept my room very warm 😂 I think that PC cost me like $600

  • @Exilum
    @Exilum 12 днів тому +1

    I am a big product fan. Not sure there's a brand I've ever been a fan of. Even my most consistent brand alignment, Madcatz, is simply because I really like their mouses (despite some quality issues), I don't really care about the brand itself. I've never and will never buy Madcatz products that are not mouses, simply because they're not what I need or what I'd like.

  • @Timoruz
    @Timoruz 12 днів тому +2

    A lot of die hard Apple fans are literally children demanding their parents buy them the newest Apple product.

  • @weirdyoda04
    @weirdyoda04 12 днів тому +3

    I didn't buy AMD because I was a fan, I just didn't like Intel as a company.

  • @donduck7845
    @donduck7845 12 днів тому

    I was today years old when I found out maybe Linus' was larger than average for his size face and I've watched LTT for years. I bet no one else thought it either. If anyone reads this and is self-conscious about something about themselves, know that in most instances you are the only one who notices and cares about it. You deserve to accept yourself like everyone should accept you for who you are.

  • @gamingbud926
    @gamingbud926 12 днів тому +12

    The difference between "fan" and "fanatic"

    • @Exilum
      @Exilum 12 днів тому +2

      I mean...

  • @zalbert1098
    @zalbert1098 11 днів тому

    competition IS the reasolution of innovation not the other way around and THATS the truth

  • @KevinEF
    @KevinEF 6 днів тому

    I remember getting a bundle with the fx 8320 + r9 390 8gb which made the 8320 worth -$20 lol

  • @collinkavaner1612
    @collinkavaner1612 12 днів тому

    I bought the AMD FX 6300 when an intel i5 would have been much better. I was completely new to PC building and I had a small budget. A year later I switched to an Intel i5-4690k realizing my mistake. Then a few years after that I bought the Ryzen 5 1600. Still run it to this day although an upgrade is very much needed and will hopefully happen soon. I just like to buy whatever I think will be best for my needs. I have had good and bad products from both Intel and AMD.

  • @scottbitz5222
    @scottbitz5222 День тому

    I bought Bulldozer because I liked my Anthlon x2 CPU and it was a slot in upgrade for me. I didn't do enough research and didn't realize it was complete trash until MUCH later, but I did buy it and still have the CPU sitting in a box because it's not worth anything!

  • @oalfodr
    @oalfodr 12 днів тому +2

    I still hate MSI because the stuff they made before 2005, my hatred of Maxtor transferred to Seagate... That will never change.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 9 днів тому

      I've blacklisted ASUS for their lousy customer service. If I'm looking for hardware, I go "Nope!" the second I see their name attached to a product.

  • @yaughl
    @yaughl 12 днів тому +5

    I prefer duckduckgo

    • @gh8447
      @gh8447 11 днів тому

      So do I - I use it exclusively, but at the same time we have to recognise DDG is just a privacy front end for Bing.
      Bing sucks balls, but I'd still rather do that (via DDG) than give all my search terms to Google.

  • @spicydude1688
    @spicydude1688 11 днів тому

    I had a AMD cpu back in 2016. I dont remember what it was but it was am3+ socket. Bought it with a prebuilt BC it was cheap, and it was fine for all my needs, sure it wasnt great, none of my games ran at full power BC of cpu bottlenecking but it wasnt that bad. So i think some people just bought it just because them were familiar with the cpu family and stayed not fanboying, but wanting reliability

  • @Studio23Media
    @Studio23Media 12 днів тому +2

    I only use iPhones. I could not be more pleased with these anti-trust suits. They should make the products better.

  • @Sunbro_Joe
    @Sunbro_Joe 8 днів тому

    Just wanna put this out there but i hope that one day we get to a point in software where we can purchase what ever device you want and purchase the software for it separately like we do with computers. Just buy a iPhone 15 stock and then purchase android or even window software if you wanted. iPhone might still work best with apple software but at least you'll get the freedom and choice to do so. That would also add a healthy competition for apple, google, window, and/or even brand new companies to compete for software vs being forced to use native software.

  • @qu3nt
    @qu3nt 11 днів тому +1

    how can you pay 60$ for a screwdriver not being a fan?

  • @just-nala
    @just-nala 10 днів тому

    Never get emotionally invested on a company you do not own nor work for: they are a business, you are a customer, your relationship is okay so as long as they make money out of you and you do not cost them money. Once that changes, rest assured, you will find out how many fs they do not give about you, sometimes in the most cruel and asymmetrical way (companies own resources you do not).

  • @Mf_Cooldawg
    @Mf_Cooldawg 10 днів тому +1

    Linus yells at clouds

  • @FaisalAzizFizzy20000
    @FaisalAzizFizzy20000 11 днів тому +1

    Linus telling his audience of people of who are “fans of corporations” to not be fans of corporations. Of course the whole comment section is trying to say he meant “fanboys”. No, he certainly meant fans. Anyone saying otherwise is deeply coping

  • @fyrestorme
    @fyrestorme 10 днів тому

    12:50 Tailgating onto the "anything but" topic: What about boycotting a company because they use or employ unethical means to produce their products? Or even because they support unethical things with their money? I think that is very legitimate and a part of being a good consumer.

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire 10 днів тому

    You don't need to have a monopoly for anti-consumer evil to thrive, you only need a customer base that is unwilling or unable to leave the abusive corpo relationship.

  • @lego_minifig
    @lego_minifig 8 днів тому

    20:40 yeah, I think I fall into that category. I am 100% the type of person that would be taken advantage of because of my overly understanding and trusting nature.

  • @fyrestrom
    @fyrestrom 12 днів тому +23

    "Dont be a fan. Buy this LTTStore merch!"

    • @rian9684
      @rian9684 12 днів тому +7

      I'm so glad I'm not you☺️

    • @bobsemple9341
      @bobsemple9341 12 днів тому +1

      You're so mad lol. Apple fan boy

    • @fyrestrom
      @fyrestrom 12 днів тому +6

      ​@@bobsemple9341 Not sure what I posted that would make you assume I'm an apple fan.

    • @bobsemple9341
      @bobsemple9341 12 днів тому +1

      @@fyrestrom not even smart enough eh?

    • @StompGojiStomp
      @StompGojiStomp 12 днів тому

      There is fan as in you enjoy the product and like to support it. And then there is a fan where Linus would bring up a baby from behind the desk and starts eating it and the fans would say the baby deserved it. That they don’t mind baby eating. And that walled baby eating is good. And then the baby eating would never get better because people will just deal with primitive baby eating.

  • @teilanittv
    @teilanittv 12 днів тому

    Sometimes its not holding grudges against a brand, but its fear that the same thing will happen again. For example, for AMD video cards back quite a long time ago, their drivers were really really bad. I used to love AMD for providing me a way to buy and upgrade my pcs. Just couldn't afford intel. My first premium video card that I purchased was an AMD circa 2007-8 which was kind of a beast of a card iirc. But the driver updates were atrocious, few and far between, and prevented me from doing a lot of things that I wanted to do at the time. So I switched to Nvidia for my next purchase and I love how much they updated their software and that their stuff just worked when I wanted it to. That was a long time ago, but my brain still thinks about that because people have told me that driver support at least until very recently has still been kind of slipshod. But then there is also that while I appreciate that AMD is doing their best to come out with competing cards, the dont come out with ones that are strong enough for what I want. Like, I dont need a 600w 3060 equivelant card thats bigger than a 4090. Yes im exaggerating but I hope you understand my point. CPUS though, hell yeah, Ill swap back and forth and Im very happy with my current AMD CPUs and well see what happens next upgrade cycle.

  • @mukulnag1578
    @mukulnag1578 11 днів тому

    It funny but alot of the mid to top level has remain same at amd for last 15-20 year ... Lower level post change alot but it you look at the profiles of these people they have all been there since 2000's

  • @tomboss9940
    @tomboss9940 12 днів тому

    Most people know and want only google as search engine. Apple gives this as default and cashes in with google. While supporting duck and letting users choose 5 other search engines. Trying to do a "privacy oriented" own search engine would bring the EU & US antitrust organisations against Apple.

  • @cyphaborg6598
    @cyphaborg6598 12 днів тому

    AMD's FSR3 on a Nvidia RTX 3060.
    That's what good competition should look like (sure the 3060 is not all that but still lol)

  • @Shadowgardenenigma
    @Shadowgardenenigma 11 днів тому

    20billion to keep them from making a search engine or 20billion to be the default search engine that people were gonna use anyway

  • @vandalphilosopher1971
    @vandalphilosopher1971 10 днів тому

    Never attribute to malice to what can be attributed to "trust me bro"

  • @myanime101
    @myanime101 8 днів тому

    who makes these thumbnails

  • @italianbasegard
    @italianbasegard 12 днів тому +10

    9:39 Fastest flip-flop ever lol

  • @d3c0y39
    @d3c0y39 12 днів тому

    Guess I'm a clown lol, bad or not used the 8350 til about 4yrs ago without issue, friend still running an 8320 with no issues. 5600 was still a big step up, but if it works, it works.
    Always leaned to AMD because of pricing in AUS. Pentium 90mhz, P2 450, 2800xp, 8350(heavily fsb oc'd), 3600x, 5600x.

    • @ArchAngelX3M
      @ArchAngelX3M 10 днів тому

      @@ganymedehedgehog371 In my country people bought AMD because they had no choice really. You could buy the fx 6100, a decent motherboard, 16 gb of ram for the price of a i3 2100 and 4 gb of ram. Linus choses to ignore that recommended prices mean jack shit outside north america.

  • @24allix
    @24allix 10 днів тому

    Always exceptions - when AM3+ came out I wanted to do an upgrade but I couldn't afford a new CPU, Mobo, GPU, Ram, etc. My phenom ii x3 was more than fine for the games I played & I really needed a GPU upgrade. Bought a new mobo, ram & gpu with the plan to upgrade the CPU when I could afford a faster one from the lineup.
    Anecdote I know, but not everyone replaced all their parts or bought a whole new computer when they upgraded.
    Also remember that Intel was throwing new sockets around like they were candy at that time & it was super annoying if you wanted to go the piece-by piece upgrade route (which was the majority of the enthusiast market). AMD was the upstart, pro-consumer option. They had recently bought the 'good' (as in not evil) gpu brand & people love the underdog. Especially when the king was Intel - who were monopolistic corporate jerks that reigned from their castle in the sky.
    2011 was still in the era of 'won't your computer catch fire if you built it?' for most people. We were a much smaller market & the oem space was focused on office builds.
    If anything buying ATI & ability to compete in a non-Intel space is what gave us the AMD we have today.
    We were all fanboy clowns then anyway Linus - you were there! Do we need to talk about the pseudo-science world of certain watercooling brands? ;)

  • @JeffDM
    @JeffDM 11 днів тому

    Based on this conversation, how long do you hold Eufy's shenanigans against Anker before you start taking their money again?

  • @denverboyd9953
    @denverboyd9953 12 днів тому +1

    It is actually pretty funny to me. Ive had android flagships for a long time. I make ebough money to rock essentially whatever tech i want. I bought a m1 macbook air and realized at the price you can find them second hand. I bought mine for 500 its a steal of a deal. Then i wanted to buy headphones and for the price air pod pros 2nd gen were a great deal. Then i looked at tablets and ipad has the best tablet. For phone im still rocking the latest samsung. Samsung is better specs wise than iphone but in September im switching to iphone so i can havr all of my devices talk to each other.

    • @dankrigby5621
      @dankrigby5621 9 днів тому

      dude what? for the price the airdpods pro 2nd gen were a great deal?? if you know anything about audio products or headphones, there are way better headphones at this price range. apples doesnt really make good headphones. i understand getting them for convenience in the appl eeco system, but looking at their technical data, they are really overpriced for their audio quality.

    • @denverboyd9953
      @denverboyd9953 9 днів тому

      @@dankrigby5621 you're just wrong. There is a reason why every tech youtuber rocks them.

    • @dankrigby5621
      @dankrigby5621 9 днів тому

      @@denverboyd9953 every tech UA-camr, but no single audio engineer UA-camr rocks them. What does that tell you? Lmao having people use them is no proof at all. Lots of people use raycons, and they are still famously bad tech. Let me guess, the UA-camrs rocking the airpods pro also have an iPhone and benefit from their integrated ecosystem.

    • @dankrigby5621
      @dankrigby5621 9 днів тому

      @@denverboyd9953 oh and btw im not saying they arent great tech, they certainly are, but if you are looking for audio quality, there are several better options in the same price range, or even cheaper. if you really want to go all in there are wayyy better options, but they also cost a bit more than even airpod pros.you were the one claiming they would be the best in their price range, and that is simply not true. altough with other options you cant benefit from the apple ecosystem, which you (and alot of other tech people rocking apple) certainly do. if I was to use airpods pro with an android, i wouldnt get these benefits, so there would be some better options for the same price range, since I would only be looking for audio quality, since i cant really use their ecosystem features.

  • @nathank-jw7uv
    @nathank-jw7uv 12 днів тому +4

    What about buying the worse product specifically to promote competition like intel arc

  • @callibor3119
    @callibor3119 12 днів тому

    Open source, free softwares and public domain. If we are not behind that, we are the reasons why these corporations do to us to their liking.
    This is the race for AI and a metaverse. And if we are not behind the codes, both hardware and software, of both AI and the metaverse, then what would we have left to care for once a good portion of technology are rendered useless?

  • @d1gitals0ul
    @d1gitals0ul 12 днів тому

    I do personally have two anything buts, and it's really not a cut and dry I'd never, but a I'd rather not. And that is in Intel CPU's and Apple products. Intel it's because I hate how much they refuse to innovate, and while they still claim top end, it's an almost self destructive push rather than by better design. I don't want to encourage that model, and thankfully in this case it very likely is in my favor not to. I do hope to see the change, but there will always be an air of hesitance with how much they develop. Apple, I love the technology and some of the actually functional design, and that all gets ruined by the company structure and marketing plans.

  • @solidmatzo
    @solidmatzo 11 днів тому

    What Linus was saying around 6:10 is exactly what drives me insane. In the US, Apple has insane influence and significance, so much so that people excuse the issues they have with Apple’s products or services because of ignorance and bias. It’s crazy. I don’t hate Apple but the whole stigma that exists in America around having an Android phone is primarily driven by how influential and prominent Apple is with their messaging, as well as the fact that a lot of Apple users aren’t super tech-savvy, and will easily believe in lies surrounding Android or whatever else.

  • @kitsune735
    @kitsune735 11 днів тому

    Am I missing something, they are paying to be default search. They aren't handing over metrics. Am I missing something? The vast majority of people would either use google anyway or just switch the default search.

  • @habitatLP
    @habitatLP 11 днів тому

    ...Linus bought a Porsche Taycan, clowning around 🙃

  • @magusware8721
    @magusware8721 9 днів тому

    Brand loyalty also stems from experience for having a stable product. Lets say A and B both make a GPU, B is better than A, but B company has let customer down in the past with poor support. Customer has trust in A. People follow this mentality also.

  • @ScarfmonsterWR
    @ScarfmonsterWR 11 днів тому

    The weirdest and most disturbing thing about fanboys is that these people are having parasocial relationships with brands. Like, just stop and think about it for a second. They are treating a corporation, something which is not even alive, much less an animal or a person, like their best friend and family. I've seen people claim that disliking what a corpo is doing is equal to harassment because "corporation are people" and it's just insane.

  • @guessundheit6494
    @guessundheit6494 10 днів тому +1

    Cultists, and the cult of personality around Steve Blow.

  • @Random-video
    @Random-video 11 днів тому

    Nestle makes the best chocolate cant live without it.

  • @Muhammad-Jacobs699
    @Muhammad-Jacobs699 11 днів тому

    I'm on the 'Anything But Apple products' side. I would have understood having fans during Tim Cook Apple days, but how can any sane person call themselves an Apple fan today, after seeing their harmful ways firsthand.

  • @GreenPizza577
    @GreenPizza577 12 днів тому

    Wait, is this video about the secondary app store issue? Honestly, idc, but, I go on adult websites often and I don't want my phone to be a victim to a potential weakness that I'm feeling this alternate app store will allow.

    • @emporioalnino4670
      @emporioalnino4670 4 дні тому

      You don't have to use an 'alternative app store' if you are uncomfortable doing so. But that's not an argument to prevent everybody else from being able to use it.

  • @Sevastous
    @Sevastous 9 днів тому

    Tech becomes mainstream. From nerdy 90's to toddlers that didnt start school of today. Marketing and lack of come and go's of companies compared to old telecoms makes them so easy to collect fanboys

  • @onmywayout
    @onmywayout 8 днів тому

    Arguments against hypocrisy always fall on deaf ears. People don't care, they know they are doing it.

  • @OneBiOzZ
    @OneBiOzZ 12 днів тому +1

    There is fanboyism and there is brand trust
    I buy exclusively samsung SSDs and WD hard drives, they have had their controversies, people have done benchmarks and price per GB and whatnot, but in my experience samsung SSDs and WD HDDs have been exceptionally reliable and if that changes i will try other companies.

  • @cwill6491
    @cwill6491 12 днів тому +1

    I'm a linus tech tips enjoyer.