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  • I'm ditching carbon shoes for my training. What are your thoughts on training in carbon shoes? Drop your comments below and let's spark a conversation! 🔥👟
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  • @Eagle6Airsoft
    @Eagle6Airsoft 3 місяці тому +1008

    Literally reducing his carbon footprint.

  • @jhonnimencias5048
    @jhonnimencias5048 3 місяці тому +92

    Damm Lionel is fking running bro I’m so fkin happy to see this

    • @mydearriley
      @mydearriley 3 місяці тому +3

      This dude would rather be running than fking

  • @nathankim178
    @nathankim178 3 місяці тому +71

    love that motivation in the second round of 200s by the camera man 😂

    • @mydearriley
      @mydearriley 3 місяці тому

      Cameraman's on a Segway 😂

  • @snthorne705
    @snthorne705 3 місяці тому +99

    Beautiful edit on this one Talbot….had me hooked from start to finish.

    • @jcoombe100
      @jcoombe100 3 місяці тому

      Ditto

    • @Reppintimefitness
      @Reppintimefitness 3 місяці тому

      Me too

    • @Gavin5511
      @Gavin5511 3 місяці тому +4

      Agreed man, top quality production, and the music was wikid. Need to find out those track listings 😂 (pun intended)

    • @Mike.A.
      @Mike.A. 3 місяці тому

      Ditto

    • @karinavoggel5741
      @karinavoggel5741 2 місяці тому

      Its just the guy running and music. I kinda scrolled through and skipped parts and found it still boring.

  • @frankgallagher5786
    @frankgallagher5786 3 місяці тому +21

    Damn! Gotta find a way. Me too. Im 65 and after 7 years of no running I am back! Well not quite yet, comeback in progress! I even want to get back on the track after this clip.

  • @benjaminruddle8805
    @benjaminruddle8805 3 місяці тому +13

    Sitting here eating my breakfast getting absolutely pumped for my workout later watching this. Awesome content!

  • @josiahburrow
    @josiahburrow 3 місяці тому +63

    it's like Lionel forgot that he almost won the Ironman World Championship in a pair of Skechers.

    • @MilanSmore
      @MilanSmore 3 місяці тому +2

      Those sketchers were pretty good carbon racers

    • @jmw2224
      @jmw2224 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MilanSmorethey were not carbon shoes

    • @MilanSmore
      @MilanSmore 3 місяці тому

      @@jmw2224 look up Skechers GOrun Speed Elite Hyper

  • @fabianthaesler1317
    @fabianthaesler1317 3 місяці тому +31

    No more doubts - the real Lionel is born again! And with him - his self motivation at its best!

    • @benhanzen2732
      @benhanzen2732 3 місяці тому

      And with it, free motivation for all of us 😁

  • @CryptoJay
    @CryptoJay 3 місяці тому +3

    Following Lionel since the start of this channel now, actually seeing a difference and loving it- keep it up!

  • @jcoombe100
    @jcoombe100 3 місяці тому +10

    FANTASTIC editing Talbot! Watched this running off bike on the treadmill. Loved the video angles, music, info on splits, your commentary on those last efforts - fantastic. More of these training vids please!

  • @orestisz
    @orestisz 3 місяці тому +8

    what a great episode guys! awesome light and edit Talbot!

  • @jacobmoffitt13
    @jacobmoffitt13 3 місяці тому +5

    That consistency set to set was 👌

  • @amo757
    @amo757 3 місяці тому +25

    I train in a heavy shoe and race in a lightweight shoe (both non carbon). It feels so good to run in a lightweight shoe come race day.

    • @JeatBunkie
      @JeatBunkie 3 місяці тому +1

      That’s the thing, people seem to have forgot that the race shoes give you a benefit when RACING. If you train in them too, no benefit.

    • @Xa4theman
      @Xa4theman 3 місяці тому +1

      Same here, good strategy

  • @pauldreada8999
    @pauldreada8999 3 місяці тому +17

    Impressive how he hits those numbers with almost no springiness on his feet and heel striking, imagining how colossal his aerobic base is

    • @justjustjoo
      @justjustjoo 3 місяці тому

      Human eye (not even the best coaches') can't tell which running technique/style is more economical than the other. So this doesn't really say anything 😅

    • @milkxv
      @milkxv 3 місяці тому

      a decent amount of top proffessionals heel strike

    • @shixuenchin1396
      @shixuenchin1396 3 місяці тому

      heel strike has zero impact on efficiency

  • @Krebinetkongen
    @Krebinetkongen 3 місяці тому +5

    FInd a way! That hit me hard, so simple, but yet such a strong mentality which applies to everything in life.

  • @waltertakano6706
    @waltertakano6706 2 місяці тому

    hard work pays off !!! mega job Lionel!

  • @_J.F_
    @_J.F_ 3 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant. And I am looking forward to see some top of the podium results coming from this change in training. Never understood why so many train in carbon shoes but I suppose I am just old school too.

  • @jjrne6
    @jjrne6 3 місяці тому

    That run looks strong. Looks like your pretty much healed up from last couple years,sometimes the body just needs time to heal. Way to stick with it,you know your body and you know what you need. Do what feels right,your doing great and as always still Motivating us all!

  • @Ivan_Nano
    @Ivan_Nano 3 місяці тому +7

    I’m glad to know you will be using carbons on race day. When I saw the title I thought: Lionel don’t do what everyone else is doing to win! Glad is just for training.

  • @billaronis3645
    @billaronis3645 2 місяці тому +1

    Just rewatched this after the Oceanside win. Amazing Lionel! No Limits. I like my HOKA Mach 5s too.

  • @inupete69
    @inupete69 3 місяці тому

    that bit at the end was so motivational

  • @tomlast2277
    @tomlast2277 3 місяці тому

    Loving the fire in his belly and the video is just ace, nice work Talbot

  • @zyphal1371
    @zyphal1371 3 місяці тому +1

    Damn it Lionel - i just got hit by a car last week on my run & I'm supposed to rest, but this video makes me want to run... keep up the hard work. This year is the year for you to win again

  • @mohamedkarimelsawy3357
    @mohamedkarimelsawy3357 3 місяці тому +2

    Talbot’s choice of music is impeccable as always

  • @mihastramic9205
    @mihastramic9205 3 місяці тому +6

    thanks for putting paces in km too

  • @benpocketful
    @benpocketful 3 місяці тому +1

    What a difference of stride at high speed! Well done!

  • @DanielNowak-xj5oc
    @DanielNowak-xj5oc 3 місяці тому

    Awesome workout Lionel ! You are going to kill it in your next race !

  • @willpsychmajor3104
    @willpsychmajor3104 3 місяці тому

    Liking how much content your putting out. Keep it up!

  • @shanegill5091
    @shanegill5091 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm on the other side of the world but when I watch your running videos I feel a connection.

  • @Runmaerun
    @Runmaerun 3 місяці тому +2

    With Lionel rocking the blonde hair the theme song for this video should have been Quit Playing Games (with my heart)

  • @michaelatellez8470
    @michaelatellez8470 3 місяці тому +2

    Find a way!! 💪🏽

  • @remisimard7760
    @remisimard7760 3 місяці тому +36

    I try to use my carbon a few times a year for hard efforts and races, but otherwise use normal and trail shoes. I like the mental boost for races that carbons give me.

    • @Roger-il8iw
      @Roger-il8iw 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah the mental, and the lack of pressure on knees is a game changer. I always keep 2 pair and break them in then use one for training once a week. Important to train in it regularly to get the full benefit. Hopefully they get cheaper!

    • @dimitar297
      @dimitar297 3 місяці тому

      Wear one carbon plated shoe and one regular shoe and change every mile.

  • @TheDomLouis
    @TheDomLouis 3 місяці тому

    8:00 @Talbot such a motivator!! Onwards and Upwards 💪🏽❗️❗

  • @thomasprecheur5737
    @thomasprecheur5737 3 місяці тому +1

    Super nice and motivating video, as usual. Keep going ! Any news about the aero testing in the wind tunnel in Germany with the Canyon guys (as announced in a previous video) ?

  • @roadracer46
    @roadracer46 3 місяці тому +1

    Great job on the video Talbot, edits and music were perfect
    It’s strange to see Lionel with hair

  • @flava1981
    @flava1981 3 місяці тому

    Beautifully shot and edited 🤟🏽

  • @arceus54321
    @arceus54321 3 місяці тому +6

    carbon takes a lot of strain off your lower leg muscles and ligaments which means you're more fresh the next day but also impedes growth and strength development in those ligaments. i thikn it's better longterm to keep carbon for races. i like using the NB1400v6 on the track because it's a super simple flat but they're discontinued. the hoka mach 5 you're using is probably too heavy for a track session but i recommend something like the takumi sen. it doesn't have a carbon plate and is lightweight enough for a fast track session. good middleground between carbon and a low-cushion flat

    • @runnin3216
      @runnin3216 3 місяці тому

      Takumi Sen still has fiberglass rods though. I am glad I still have a few pairs of Reebok Run Fast Pros to use for track sessions.

  • @highteklife
    @highteklife 3 місяці тому +5

    These videos are an inspiration. Lionel never give up. No Limits for life! Keep it up brother!

    • @KerenWang
      @KerenWang 3 місяці тому

      Giving up on carbon shoes though. ;)

  • @siitan83
    @siitan83 3 місяці тому +5

    He is absolutely right - you lose something. I also ran in them for years and yes they help, but they also make your hoof lazy or lazier. Lionel has especially lazy hoof, he has very little airtime in his step.

    • @LR6092
      @LR6092 3 місяці тому +1

      If his foot spends more time on the ground it would require more foot strength 🫤

  • @JouneyOfTheAmateurRunner
    @JouneyOfTheAmateurRunner 2 місяці тому

    Quietly video - only just found your channel - great work 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @donaldlamarche9886
    @donaldlamarche9886 3 місяці тому

    Way to go Lionel! Out hustle and out grind everyone, then transcend this work in your races. You do Lionel. Gut it out until the finish line.

  • @simonherrmann1278
    @simonherrmann1278 3 місяці тому

    Incredible video production!!

  • @yendoradon7836
    @yendoradon7836 3 місяці тому +1

    Beautiful video production 😊

  • @carflores13
    @carflores13 3 місяці тому +6

    Lionel it looks like your running form has gotten better! Keep going brother and put the work in now to celebrate later!!!

  • @VogtJurgen
    @VogtJurgen 3 місяці тому +3

    Brilliant video. Super motivational guys.
    And doesn't Lionel's form look better when he's doing speedwork?

  • @hellopixel8203
    @hellopixel8203 3 місяці тому +39

    Running with less shoe tech + more speed might be the best chance Lionel has at balancing and fixing his stride mechanics. From those of us in the biomechanics, physiology world, let's all wish him luck

  • @DavidFritzIII
    @DavidFritzIII 3 місяці тому +2

    I had gone to carbon shoes for a summer and loved having the faster splits in training but in the end I stopped and run only in the taper in my carbon racers… With this approach I’ve hit so many more PBs. I’m not as quick as you but now that you’re on to my secret no chance of catching you.. Also I’ve added in some zero drop shoes for one run a week and that is usually a trail run, I found that helps too.

  • @Eightch
    @Eightch 2 місяці тому

    This is exactly it. I have said it over, over and over. Apparently not in any place where people see it. The best approach to training and race day times is to save the carbons for your last two weeks before a race. This will give your body time to adjust to the race day set up and pace. Glad to see you taking up this approach. As you said... put in the work now, enjoy the benefits later!

  • @travismcgarry
    @travismcgarry 3 місяці тому +2

    Wow what happened to Lionel’s “limp”… it seems to be smoothing out some…. Crushing it💪

  • @konradnoises
    @konradnoises 3 місяці тому +2

    It would just be INSANE to see what he could do if he changed his form to not have a heel strike

  • @EatMyPropwash
    @EatMyPropwash 3 місяці тому +1

    Love my Mach 5’s. Recently switched to the Mach X they’re superb.

  • @nimbra2
    @nimbra2 3 місяці тому +4

    Carbon takes the work/impact away from your feet and ankles. If I do track WOs in carbons, I do a barefoot cool down and always easy runs in non-carbons

  • @tatotherunner4388
    @tatotherunner4388 3 місяці тому

    Great content and video work.

  • @derkong7114
    @derkong7114 3 місяці тому +5

    There was a time to watch Lionel run was painful for the viewer, he looks much more "pain free" and smooth in his running today....

  • @rodp7803
    @rodp7803 3 місяці тому +1

    Every video in which Lionel makes a change, my confidence in him is renewed

    • @khaubensak
      @khaubensak 3 місяці тому +1

      So your confidence is renewed weekly lol

  • @kilzan
    @kilzan 3 місяці тому +2

    Lionel D1OS Sanders!!! We are two brothers of 9 and 10 years old, we are from Spain, we are your number 1 fans!!! Someday we will win the Ironman of Hawaii, but first we want to see you being the king of the island.

  • @Fit.Girl.Fitness
    @Fit.Girl.Fitness 3 місяці тому

    Love it Talbot Cox!!! Just love it!!

  • @coverupcontest9621
    @coverupcontest9621 Місяць тому

    Was there any rest in between each rep? You killing it bro💪🏽🔥

  • @shredwithrobert
    @shredwithrobert 2 місяці тому

    Good training motivation Lionel 🔥

  • @TheCyclingCardio
    @TheCyclingCardio 3 місяці тому

    Those are cool pair of shades..what are those? And these footage pump me to go back to running, great work

  • @beachedbeluga
    @beachedbeluga 3 місяці тому +22

    There is some thought that the carbon shoes reduce injuries, allowing for increased volume and training. Will be interesting to see if that has any impact on Lionel.

    • @TalbotCoxMedia
      @TalbotCoxMedia 3 місяці тому +20

      I asked him this in the video but I did not feel it needed to be added but we looked it up and that’s just opinion no scientific evidence behind that statement but you’re right time will tell

    • @David-rh2fe
      @David-rh2fe 3 місяці тому +6

      its actually the opposite .. carbon shoes can increase injuries

    • @Juan_More_Mile
      @Juan_More_Mile 3 місяці тому +2

      @@David-rh2feno they don’t. The opposite has been proven

    • @SwordOfGod642
      @SwordOfGod642 3 місяці тому

      @@TalbotCoxMediaua-cam.com/video/v_5j7B31V9Y/v-deo.html

    • @SwordOfGod642
      @SwordOfGod642 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Juan_More_Mile "Long term usage of carbon shoes weakens the achilles" Jordan Donnelly, Athlete Innovation Lead at On

  • @mitchbuckley5393
    @mitchbuckley5393 3 місяці тому +5

    Dude, how late are you training? What happened to getting it done early, food and recovery? Cool video though, great edit. Heart on sleeve ❤

  • @100maxPower
    @100maxPower 3 місяці тому +3

    looks like you are slightly overstriding. a bit more of a forward lean and trying to land under your center of gravity might be a good thing to focus on

  • @cdnnurse01
    @cdnnurse01 3 місяці тому +3

    Please don't overtrain again, get the recovery/rest both physically and mentally, when you can 2nd in Kona it seems you did the work and boom after you seemed to over do everything and it hurt you, plz don't jump into that lane again, your deserve the big one.

  • @billymans2259
    @billymans2259 3 місяці тому +1

    I am sensing something coming!!

  • @federicopagliettini
    @federicopagliettini 3 місяці тому +1

    I like his point. You should train in hard conditions to be at your best on race day. I´ve been using carbon over the last year and I feel I am slower than before when I go back to non-carbons

  • @terciosantana4697
    @terciosantana4697 3 місяці тому

    one helluva workout! awesome!

  • @unclelee743
    @unclelee743 2 місяці тому

    Love to see Lionel do a pure marathon event as part of prep

  • @waxwars9183
    @waxwars9183 3 місяці тому +2

    Haven’t tried the carbon ones yet. Rich people problems ?!?

  • @MMichiganSalveRegina
    @MMichiganSalveRegina 3 місяці тому

    The reason people like you Lionel is because you represent the idea that working harder makes you better. 👏 bravo

  • @ludovicpiejos4379
    @ludovicpiejos4379 3 місяці тому +1

    He is literally doing what people like me on budget do to conserve their carbon plated shoes. It is expensive so I only use them for fast workout few weeks before race day and race day.

  • @notsoaeroarnulvillarreal804
    @notsoaeroarnulvillarreal804 3 місяці тому +1

    Would love to see him run in Raramuri sandals in the next video

  • @frauhorn
    @frauhorn 3 місяці тому

    totally agree with this. I only plate up for races. I love the confidence of running decent session in Hoka Arahi's or similar non glamorous daily trainer.

  • @afknow
    @afknow 3 місяці тому

    ohh new video!! awesome

  • @nimbra2
    @nimbra2 3 місяці тому +4

    Running form looks better than it has in years! Doesn’t even look like you’re trying to run injured

  • @abuckeye26
    @abuckeye26 3 місяці тому +5

    Lionel what was your "rest" during the 200s? A 200m jog?

  • @JimLarranaga5k
    @JimLarranaga5k 7 днів тому

    Great sound track

  • @L-dw5sx
    @L-dw5sx Місяць тому +1

    Epic running montage

  • @Eightch
    @Eightch 2 місяці тому

    In fact I still do some of my runs in a pair of 83 Pegasus which were used in marathons back when they were released with great results. This approach helps strengthen my feet and ligaments so that when I go with my Nike Kipchoge AlphaFly's I feel like I can't be stopped.

  • @nathanspain
    @nathanspain 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm curious, do you ever run the track in reverse (clockwise) for any reps? great vids lately.....all the vids are great really.....thanks for creating the content!

    • @RachelIsRunning
      @RachelIsRunning 3 місяці тому +4

      I know you're asking LS and not me, but I thought I'd weigh in on this.. I run both directions, I'm left-handed and left foot Dominant. Clockwise is easier for me to achieve pace targets. But running both directions balances the force put through both sides equally so I try to ensure I stay balanced, help avoid injury. It also reminds me to push through my legs consistently on corners 💪💪

  • @glatocha
    @glatocha 3 місяці тому +3

    Did he ever try to fight this running style of his? Maybe there is some seconds to win there

  • @m0e566
    @m0e566 3 місяці тому +1

    i did. the same thing i went back to running my fast workouts in non carbon shoes after i really struggled to hit 3:45 min/k in Training sessions were i didn’t have any available.

  • @joshuafoulds8107
    @joshuafoulds8107 3 місяці тому +2

    Is LS going to revisit his lactate tests from the fall? The plan was every 8 weeks.

  • @andreasmaher8749
    @andreasmaher8749 3 місяці тому +2

    I do all my fast stuff in non carbon shoes. When I put on the race day carbon shoes I almost feel like Im falling forward with every stride.

  • @thekeenester
    @thekeenester 3 місяці тому

    the overcast + sunrise aesthetic of this video + the music choices just hit for me idk.

  • @drewblake854
    @drewblake854 3 місяці тому +2

    I for one have never tried carbons due to cost. I can’t afford to race right now much less afford that shoe. In another case I’m running 7:45 tempo pace now so don’t really need them till I can consistently be in the 6’s and faster.

  • @after4091
    @after4091 3 місяці тому

    Love this.

  • @Will-yj9vf
    @Will-yj9vf 3 місяці тому

    Very good the sutitle in portuguese tks. For up, guy!
    Wachitng from Brazil.

  • @Domingjm2
    @Domingjm2 3 місяці тому

    Best training video in recent memory.

  • @cybermanne
    @cybermanne 3 місяці тому

    Good call on ditching the carbons.

  • @samanderson1650
    @samanderson1650 3 місяці тому

    Yeah, I like the super shoes, but I don't wear them for every interval workout. It's nice to do some workouts in regular trainers to notice the difference more on race day.

  • @berthein5476
    @berthein5476 2 місяці тому

    im using my novablast 3 for everything interval and Marathon Pace training. I had vaporflys, and i loved them. but they broke at the end of last year. i never really went back to plated shoes for my Street running. I am an ultra Trail runner primarily, and my shoe of choice in the Hoka Tecton X. probably the best shoe ive ever had. its like a slightly bouncier plated mach 5.
    I just now bought a a metaspeed sky paris for a few HMs coming up. but thats about it.

  • @gingerwatkins3872
    @gingerwatkins3872 3 місяці тому +2

    Try the Mach 6 or Fuelcell Rebel v4. No carbon but both snappy .

  • @jameswisniewski4741
    @jameswisniewski4741 3 місяці тому +1

    That is the best I have seen his run form look in years. Does anyone else agree? Or disagree?

  • @StephanieLuff
    @StephanieLuff 3 місяці тому

    I find that if I do speed work in carbon plates, I injure myself. Now I only use them for races and long runs but in general I try to rotate through my shoes so I don’t grow any imbalances

  • @triathlontimmy
    @triathlontimmy 3 місяці тому

    I also like my Hoka Mach 5 shoes! Good choice

  • @than9350
    @than9350 3 місяці тому

    Awesome video
    Lionel will win this year & love the “that’s beta” comment
    lol 😅

  • @MellenJay
    @MellenJay 3 місяці тому

    #soinspiring. Incredible production value as always. May I ask the title & artists of the song used throughout? it's dreamy

  • @supdawg7811
    @supdawg7811 3 місяці тому

    IMO and experience, going from carbon fiber-based shoes to Hokas is like going from the most responsive side to the least responsive side of the spectrum. Hokas have bounce, but my Cliftons were way less responsive from heel-to-toe. A mid-point standard construction brand like Brooks might be what you’re looking for (I use the Adrenalines)

  • @gengar678
    @gengar678 3 місяці тому

    waw....First time I see proper mechanics!!