Switching Off Broadcast TV?
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- TV is changing, in 2024 live broadcast tv will come to all via your internet connection. Does this mean they are switching off digital broadcast tv soon?
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internet tax - this is another shakedown . we have to actually dismantle the BBC to be rid of it
Defo mate..👍🏻
Any service that uses the word free when you have to pay a company to use the service should not be allowed to use that word to promote the service.
I have NEVER had a licence as an adult, and it's been almost 20 years since I "watched TV" as part of my daily routine. The only time I ever see broadcast television is round my parents..
It doesn't interest me that it's free. It's a vile institution I don't want anything to do with.
Wondering if their next step is "If you have Broadband, you need a TV Licence" ?
It seems fairly obvious that this is the first step on the road that will lead to a tax on internet access for the purposes of the BBC revenue.
Weird that Tim Davies is suddenly all for this when previously the BBC's stand was the fact that not everyone in the UK has access to fast broadband so the TV licence was a necessity.
It is not obvious to those of us who are old enough to vote.
@@icdgyixifyinstereoyet you make a childish post.
@@Lee_303 yet it still went over your head?
@@icdgyixifyinstereo I've been old enough to vote for 35 years yet I still fail to see the relevance of your comment.
@@john_dx You can stream live TV but the BBC gain revenue through charging people to receive live television broadcasts. If broadcasts are switched off in preference for online streaming then the government will have the excuse to change the TV licence into a broadband tax.
I've said this before. In an age of so called choice why does the BBC have a god given right to my money if I don't watch their channels?
BBC will offer this "free" service so they can push the government for a broadband tax...More skulduggery coming... What if you don't want this "free" BBC service, can you opt out?
This is what the BBC want you to fear.
it will be in our council tax we'll have no option
@@Futura2500 Do you work for the BBC?
@@Futura2500 only if you vote for it. Reform UK are opposed to it.
This is not to benefit users, this is so the BBC can hang on to the licence model for just that little bit longer. They will keep the 'live' aspect for as long as possible as it keep the money coming in. Just watch proper catch-up and ditch your licence.
The cynic in me says this is a way for the BBC to say "you've been watching live TV". People who don't pay for a licence already have streaming through broadband. A planner is irrelevant because you don't have to plan what you want to watch.
Good luck to those who have crappy slow broadband
The word in the article was replicate not replace which is a fancy word for duplicate. The reason the other channels aren't complaining is the pool of advertising money is limited so if the Beeb started advertising their own share is likely to go down.
I only remember the switch from analog to digital broadcasts because by that point I’d already long stopped watching television so didn’t have to make any changes while everyone else was acting like it was some big change they had to be ready for so I’m sure that whatever changes they make next will pass me by just the same!
All UK TV stations are already available online, if you know how 😊
Your pumping the vids out at the moment Jon, I can hardly keep up!
There’s two words that don’t go together, BBC & FREE ! TIM DIVY , joker, another pay rise soon I’m sure! BBC & Quality, two more words that don’t go together! CANCEL THE TAX TODAY FOLKS!
All I heard “another way to get people pay a licence scam”.
As budgets get tighter, disposable income drops etc. Why should we prioritise broadband connections for watching tv over … let’s say … heating or food for example? The job centre and jobs market already EXPECTS us to have broadband and a car, some people don’t want or can’t afford such things.
That should make it easy to make the BBC into a subscription service if it is all through broadband.
This was a reason given a few years ago when a subscription service was first mooted.
No, it will make it easier for them to have a broadband tax with the bbc getting £4 million from it.
Hopefully this is the end of the TV licence as long as there is no internet tax.
Even when I paid the tv tax I never watched anything on the BBC because IMHO it was crap and very politically biased. Not sure that MP's are prepared for the backlash if the tv tax is replaced by something payable by everyone even if they don't use it. Brings back memories of the Poll Tax outcome.
We got rid of our Freeview box and stopped paying the BBC tax in November 2019, We have streamed everything via a 4/5G signal from a "3" sim in a Hawawi Mi-Fi unit ever since - £20/month unlimited and no buffering plus when we go away in our camper van we can take it with us, unlike a Broadband connection.
SO ...... the next step is ..... If you have broadband you have to have a License ...... I was wondering how they were going to get round it
My mother doesn’t have internet, she wouldn’t know what to do with it if she did. It caused enough confusion for her when they changed from 4 channels, we couldn’t get channel 5 here, to Freeview.
Stop calling it a "licence" and just call it what it is , TV Tax.
No I don't agree with them charging people who have internet. The thing about internet is they can log every user. So people who don't use their services can be easily identified from those who do. There is NO EXCUSE for a blanket charge.
we'll all have to pay the BBC for our internet connections. That's where it'll end up going if we can't just keep the license model which actually works well for those that don't want broadcast TV
This is what the BBC want you to fear.
switch the tv off and take back your mind
We have old copper landlines being turned off in the UK by the end of December 2025 too and customers who haven't already been transferred to VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) will be soon. Ever more TV is via the Internet streaming services too, you no longer need an aerial for free TV or a satellite dish for Sky TV so I agree eventually broadcast TV will end. The advantage is it's cheaper just maintaining one system rather than three and it's often easier to install, but the bad side is all the eggs are in one basket, if the Internet goes down you lose all services.
I only watch thrpught broadband now. My flat has sky sockets only, and i did have that for a while. Now im licence free i have a roku and everything comes through that. Yes it can be annoying when internet goes down, but at least its still there to pick up from where it went off.
Im surprised that the bbc are collaborating with the other channels and will allow iplayer stuff to be viewed. (That was from an article i read earlier today, how true it is we will have to see!) Although will still need a tv licence for the live stuff.
I sadly agree with others that this is going to end up an extra charge on top of our broadband bills. 😒
This is a con, first of all it will cost everyone to be able to watch TV the price of internet, a monthly cost some of the poorest can't afford. Then the new TV sets will have it built in, meaning those of us who do not watch wont be able to say we can't recive it on our TV. Right now I can delete BBC apps for instance, I doubt very much the same can be done with this. So they will find a clause that will eith make you buy a liceince wether you watch or not or put a tax on the internet. Either way, we'll end up paying for crap TV we don't want or need. Screw the BBC!
Here in Scotland on a good day we get one (1) meg
The internet is already taxed. Called VAT, the tax that should have vanished with EU (Common Market) membership.
2027, the live to watch TV tax is supposed to be scrapped.
I am amused when I have to tell folk, I haven't a clue how to set up a TV for Freeview as I stopped all of it in 2006.
Freeview is not free, you have to buy a TV licence to watch it. Stop calling it Freeview, its BBC Tax View.
Is this the reason why so many new internet installation's are currently being carried out across the country paths been dug up & poles suddenly appearing outside homes.
So they can impose a tax on the internet instead of a licence fee ?
This is what the BBC want you to fear.
it might be free but it still needs an internet connection which isnt free.
Problem is, all the isp's will be overloaded, and even if you have a fast connection it will still buffer.
This means that they will have to refit all those detector vans with broadband detection equipment 😁
Brilliant. All you'd need is a WiFi sniffer app.
The only is not a technical one, but the cartel of broadband providers constantly increasing their costs.
Its just a way to be able to trace who isnt paying!
They know who is not paying. But they cannot prove that they are watching live tv.
Thank you for the insight.
If they go to Internet, they can give licence holders a password access so they can stop hassling everyone who doesn't want to see their garbage.
CRUSH THE BBC/CHANNEL4/ITV/SKY. BIN YOUR TV I DID 20 YEARS AGO.
Yeah, Log-on and TV Licencing will be immediately notified - So, beware!!!
What will happen is bbc wil go streaming and then all streaming will require a licence to cover it all ....watch this space 😢
Surely these new smart TVs, with the built in ability to receive live broadcasting via the internet will render the owner instantly liable to needing a licence even if you never use the service?
It REALLY pisses me off that every sentence emphasises "FREE" tv. Does that mean that the likes of Netflix is free if you buy a season pass?
Last week I got the letter they send every two years asking you to declare that you still no longer need a license. It is an automated call with desperate sales messages "40p/day" etc - it seems clear the it is in its death throes. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Where I live we have a repeater and only get 15 tv channels. However, less channels is not an issue because the programmes are all repeats and mostly rubbish. I mostly watch UA-cam and amazon prime etc.
I live in the sticks and Sky said they couldn't offer broadband because they couldn't guarantee 2 meg. I didn't bother asking anyone else and got a 4g router with unlimited data plan and that works a treat.
Yeah,Tv went Digital....and not only did we have to buy "Set Top" boxes,we had to get a Professional Tv Aerial Installer out to put a new aerial up 🤔
Freeview! What's that. We get so few channels, I doubt a third of what others are able to get.
I turned the telly off a year last February. If the censorship continues I'll be turning off the internet too.
Not watched live TV for years and I still manage to find loads of crap to watch, I do get a bit picky now and then and look for someone good to watch, BBC this is the future no its not it was the future 20 years ago but now its the norm BBC need to to catch up or just be scrapped
In this day and age all broadcast TV needs to be in HD, trying to watch talktv and GB News is eye straining in SD.
Here's the crucial thing I've been wondering about with this new Freely app; will it automatically start playing Live TV instantly as soon as you open the app, instead of taking you to a home menu to make a selection from on demand content, like with ITV X for example. That'd be a way they could force all users of Freely to have a TV license to use the app, even if they just wanted to view VOD content exclusively.
It'd be good if they added an option in this new app, or all the UK catchup/freeview apps to disable all live content if you decided you don't want a TV license, but that's probably never going to happen.
It seems unlikely to me that broadcast TV over the airwaves would ever be switched off. The infrastructure is in place and just about the only costs it attracts are those to do with maintenance. Also, to put all TV on the internet will require expensive capacity upgrades. There would also be the risk of internet outages, local, regional or even national caused, perhaps by hostile interests and no backup if broadcasting over the airwaves had ceased.
Major costs with maintenance of towers etc but 4million homes are IP only 😮 well BBC should know. But i would shut down BBC world service, they are the come to the UK for a better life and enticing boat people.
The internet tax is on its way... for shure.
I’ve no TV and no license. No internet on my mobile phone, it’s just a telephone. Soon I’ll have no internet at home as well, if they think I’m giving anything for a service I don’t use, I.e broadcast television, then they are wrong, totally.
Next up pay per mile use of our roads, even if your walking or cycling.
The NHS has been sold off to supposedly create better services, in reality it’s just to provide better profits for the investors, exactly the same as the Bbc.
I think you are missing the point when the BBC goes online only everyone who uses the web will have to pay a licence fee because just like now if you want to watch ITV etc live you need a licence. The outcome will be the BBC will get many more billions in fees than they do now.
Preparing to slam the TV Licence Fee into everyone's Broadband Charges the scum.
Not bad however not everyone has the internet available. More internet usage can contribute to congestion.
I do IT support in Cheshire.
I can assume you its very easy to live in a place with less than 5mbps available on a cable and not have good mobile signal.
I'm not in the sticks, I'm in town. I can only get copper as I live within 500 meters of an exchange. Due to a deal done between BT/Openreach and the Government (guess which party)
Not had the aerial plugged in for years. Now that you can get basic broadband packages for those on benefits - switching to streaming is easy.
Fibre broadband should be free and unmetered with unlimited use to enable replacement of terrestrial broadcasts through transmitters.
We have a LG led smart tv, it doesn’t stream all that well at times, even though internet is ok (fibre broadband) we use free view most of the time
By adding live TV to an app on a TV will make it easier for TV license to find people
The Uk and all public broadcasters but only us the BBC get the Money
Free licence for over 75s has gone.
I like this idea. The stream will be there ready for the BBC sub fee?And don't forget satellite...this new thing may replace them but you didn't say?
When they switch of TV broadcast what do you think will happen to the frequencies that the TV used to use?
I hope some goes to ISM band usage but the rest will end up in the hands of mobile networks.
Not be long, another nice little earner.... For gov...... Might be time to give up Internet 😢😢🇬🇧👍
A good few years ago they were planning for a 2030 terrestrial switch off. Some people say it will be more likely in the mid 2030s but seeing as they are launching full IPTV next year, that gives them 6 years to roll it out and get the "majority" across to it. It's not just TV, they are also switching all radio to IP only.
So if we ever get hit with a severe weather event that takes out internet, there will be no public broadcast only a buffering wheel 👀
But they don't care about that as they will still be getting their £4 billion a year.
@@Thurgosh_OG Unlikely they will be getting that sort of income in a decade. It's mainly older folk that tend to be paying for the licence. As today's youth move forward and the older generations disappear, they won't be able to sustain that kind of income unless the Gov add it as a tax or the become a subscription model.....who would pay to watch Eastenders and Cash In The Attic?
The free TV licence was cancelled about 3 or 4 years ago !
I hate TV. I've not had one since about 2006. Whenever the first season of _"LOST"_ ended.
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They will find a way so if you do not have a TV licence, they block your entire TV from working. Turn on your TV, it checks to see if you have a licence. If not, error message on screen, and shuts down.
Weather events regularly knock out our satellite signal while the IP TV is far more reliable.
This is where they will justify athe license being included in a household charge that everyone will pay.
This is what the BBC want you to fear.
That'll be me excluded then, I don't have broadband. Or a computer. Or a television come to that! Just this mobile phone with a bit of data allowance on my contract.
I don't think I'm missing out on a lot.
When we get hot nights in Lincoln our TV signal is utter shite,as for broadband I don't have it ,I watch you tube on my phone £20 unlimited data around 2 Mbps, you're vid is currently buffering.😊
About time, as the 'content' they broadcast now is seriously poor!
I'm with Virgin media and use my internet connection already to watch TV
The article says it will "replicate" not replace @2:40 However if you stream the live content it will become easier to target actual licence evaders as your IP address will be identified and therefore your exact location. The BBC will love this.
Rubbish. Your IP is not fixed. Your ISP gives you an address which may change when it expires.
@@icdgyixifyinstereo Your location can still be tracked from the IP address you had at the time. Also, don't be so sure that your IP changes, it rarely does. Mine has been the same for 3 years now, and before that, for 5 years with a different provider.
@@Drew-mr6tr command prompt - ipconfig /release after you finish your session.
@icdgyixifyinstereo pmsl , That is just on your local device, lol. Your global IP address, provided by your ISP is what we are talking about.
@@Drew-mr6tr All that is on your device is a local ip address provided from a pool of internal ip addresses by your ISP. The global ip address would be on your ISP's firewall.
If the BBC switched to advertisements for funding there’s only one cake, that means a smaller share for the existing advertising channels so they are happy to see the BBC licence continue. There’s no point in placing advertisements where you haven’t got the target audience, isn’t that why all live channels are struggling ?
Can the BBC or it's agents thus monitor what you are watching if you are thus in receipt of streamed programmes? If so, there would be no need for Capita to be employed chasing people for alleged non payment of the licence fee. Like speed cameras the BBC notes you're watching 'Corrie' (for example) and then simply pop a penalty style notice in the post (or notification of court action). Gotcha!
Let's hope they don't use this to change broadcast content to streamed content
The bbc's attempt to compete with sky stream - live tv without an aerial.
Surley if its all broadcast over the internet they can put their content behind a paywall - like bt sport, sky sport, netflix & prime do.
in america thay dont have a tv licence i have a friend there and she told me
There are also people with low data limits on their Internet. So would not be able to watch much.
So if I buy a new TV, I will be forced to have the apps (Freely, Freeview etc). Even if I don't want them you will not be able to remove them. So then you could be forced into the TV Licence. As thus is probably the way the TV Licence will change and we will all have to pay with a media/Internet tax.
Even if you do not watch TV werher on demand or broadcast TV and only read Epub books or only use it for emails, you could still be liable for media tax.
you can bypass the Smart TV apps situation by using a commercial display instead, most still support HDMI inputs and can be used without all the junkware/spyware that comes on them
They've recently made the letter sound more 'threatening' dont know if youve received one recently Jon
You cant get free broadband so the BBC license fee will never be abolished! If you dont have expensive broadband you cant get TV.The cheapest broadband will be at least 4 times the present license fee.
Yet another streaming service why can't they just be part of the Pluto TV platform its owned by Channel 5's parent company. Exists on all platforms.
Pluto tv is free, ad supported IP TV. and currently the BBC has channels on the service with 4 Fast channels UKTV Play laughs, Heroes, full throttle and uncovered. Maybe Freely will just be a wrapper for the Pluto TV service.
BBc live only through the internet is a backdoor to putting TV licence charge on every internet connection.
This is what the BBC want you to fear.
Well it's not free as to watch anything live you will have to pay the bbc which is something I won't be doing. To be honest I don't watch catch up tv much as I'd rather watch movies and play video games.
Internet/ tv license tax coming up. By hook or by crook we are going to pay for something we dont use.
If it is all streamed for free? Do the BBC still want their licence fee?
No doubt the annual licence fee will be scrapped, and the charge added to your broadband bill.
council taxi think
Anything from the bbc has got to be dodgy,it,ll be just another way of finding out people without a license ,s particulars.
What if some people don't have 'broadband', will the government be paying it for you?
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Warming us up for an internet tax. Good job I never use it.
This is what the BBC want you to fear.
And if you are 75 and have dementia, and do not have an internet connection, and wouldn't know what to do with it even if they did, this would be an extra monthly expense that many cannot afford, so it's not free anyway.
Haven't watched any terrestrial broadcast BBC content created since the early 00's. Think I cut the cord way back in 2003 / 04 because it had become so bad.