What Are Digital Foundry's Biggest Gaming Annoyances

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  • @newyorktechworld6492
    @newyorktechworld6492 3 дні тому +132

    Anti consumer always online drm requirement even for single player.

    • @Xsetsu
      @Xsetsu 3 дні тому +8

      The DRM with the launchers is just insane.

    • @DoinThatRag
      @DoinThatRag 2 дні тому +2

      This right here has prevented me from buying a large number of games. On top of this nonsense if you wrap your game in Denuvo you might as well not make the game at all.

  • @Simi69
    @Simi69 3 дні тому +23

    Games with traversal stutter and/or micro stutter when saving/loading assets. Games with graphical defects that you can't eliminate on higher end or future hardware because they're capped to run well on the hardware of the time. e.g. pop in close to camera because you can't set the LOD higher, pointless low quality ray-tracing (this will be a big one in the future).

  • @brafya
    @brafya 3 дні тому +42

    i hate you guys for making me aware of frame pacing, for decades i was fine with even 23 fps on a xbox 360... i was FINE!! now i cant unlearn and unsee

    • @dr_diddy
      @dr_diddy 2 дні тому +4

      Me gladly playing GTA 5 on 360 only to see the DF video 10 years later explaining I've been playing at 20 fps 😭

    • @happyspaceinvader508
      @happyspaceinvader508 День тому +1

      I was devastated to learn from DF Retro that Road Rash on the Megadrive (still one of my favourites) runs at 15fps. I was always aware that it was a bit choppy, but putting a number on it really hammers it home.

  • @PwnyPony
    @PwnyPony 3 дні тому +36

    Bad HDR for me. So many games with raised black levels, a grey tint, too much contrast, having no or bad and uninformative calibration screens. I tried Assassins Creed Odyssey today and it has too much contrast so any light is blinding and any shadow is the abyss. Just terrible. Calibration screen is completely blown out too no matter the settings.

    • @segasdreamer
      @segasdreamer 3 дні тому +6

      I like Capcom' RE engine HDR calibration. Seems always on point and even the SDR calibration is better. RE2 Remake looks so good with its calibration.

    • @PwnyPony
      @PwnyPony 2 дні тому +2

      @@segasdreamer Going from Monster Hunter: World HDR to Monster Hunter: Wilds beta was a huge HDR improvement. Would like to see more of that happening.

    • @sklynexd
      @sklynexd День тому

      HDR looks great if you can configure it properly which most of the time is very hard and you need to search a tutorial for that specific game. I love Playstation Studio games which use console level calibration so you have zero work in game and you just play it. Obviously you also need MiniLED or OLED to look great.

  • @sizablekoala6879
    @sizablekoala6879 3 дні тому +125

    A lack of split screen gaming. It's so dumb that I can play Helldivers 2 with my friend stationed in Anchorage but not my roommate.

    • @justacollegestudent5147
      @justacollegestudent5147 3 дні тому +12

      Unfortunately with how gpu and cpu intensive dual screen is nevermind the dev time I don’t think it’s coming back.
      Unfortunately co-op gaming is pretty niche except for the family market which Nintendo corners.

    • @sizablekoala6879
      @sizablekoala6879 3 дні тому +22

      @justacollegestudent5147 You say it's so GPU and CPU intensive, and yet Nintendo does it on the Switch with multiple games. And it was standard on older systems like OG Xbox, but somehow the Series X can't?
      And how the fuck is playing with friends and family on the couch together considered niche?

    • @DBIIJ0U
      @DBIIJ0U 3 дні тому +1

      ​@@sizablekoala6879There's a few games, It takes two, no way out and their upcoming title split fiction. Older systems and the switch are able to split screen because the GAMES aren't as GPU and CPU intensive.

    • @KCIsMe
      @KCIsMe 3 дні тому +12

      Yeah I don't get how people consider split screen niche. People don't do it anymore because they can't, not because people don't want to

    • @Jabid21
      @Jabid21 3 дні тому +1

      Sharing screen space isn’t made to be a thing anymore. It’s better for hardware makers to sell another system/PC, publishers to sell another copy of the game, console makers to sell subscription for online access so that you can play with your roommate.

  • @emilemil1
    @emilemil1 3 дні тому +14

    Graphical settings menus that don't provide a preview, that don't provide descriptions of what the settings taxes (cpu or gpu) and by how much, no VRAM usage indicator, and diagnostics that are just FPS and not CPU/GPU usage.

    • @ThinkTinkh
      @ThinkTinkh 3 дні тому +1

      Some do

    • @dotrarXD
      @dotrarXD День тому

      Every game needs to do what CS2 does

  • @0037rmb
    @0037rmb 3 дні тому +57

    Stutters. Just stutters. Literally stutters

  • @davidkatsmam
    @davidkatsmam 3 дні тому +54

    Unreal Stuttering 5

  • @Arponare
    @Arponare 3 дні тому +19

    Games coming out unfinished and having to wait for a patch.

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 2 дні тому

      Very few games are like that thankfully

    • @haloharry97
      @haloharry97 22 години тому

      Then just wait for the patch to come out.
      I used to wait for goty to come out.
      They do not do them much anymore :(

    • @Arponare
      @Arponare 20 годин тому

      @@haloharry97
      I've been buying a lot more physical games lately. I've been doing it because I want to own my games and not have these greedy publishers and platform holders delist a game after I "purchased" it because according to the likes of Sony purchasing just means that I have a license to a game until they feel like it.
      Nevertheless, that means that in the future, when these services are eventually shut down by the platform holders, its going to be difficult for me to fire up a game and play it if I doesn't have a particular patch. Take the Epic Mickey rebrushed for example. There is a major bug where you can't beat the game because an area is not loaded and the cut scene can't be triggered.
      Contrast that to Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition. I was feeling nostalgic the other day and wanted to fire it up. I was able to play it and go through the whole game no problem. Provided I had a working Wii (well, Wii U) and a copy of the game.
      I don't know if I'm going to be able to do that with many games in 15/20 years if I lose my save or buy a new console. I sold my original Wii U and then bought a second hand one.

    • @Arponare
      @Arponare 20 годин тому

      @@gothpunkboy89
      I don't know if I can check that for the amount of games that require a day 1 patch. I feel like it's way too many. If the game is not broken, then they are adding features that should have been in the game in the first place. I'm not talking about expansion packs, that's different. I know many PC ports come out poorly optimized like the Dead Space Remake or the Last of Us. Those aren't games that are always online.
      Then if you leave the PC side of things, there are several games this gen that I've been thinking about buying but there's some BS with them. The Epic Mickey Rebrushed remake, some sports titles on the Switch, and we all remember the Cyberpunk 2077 fiasco. Like I said, it may not be a majority, but its been way too many high profile examples for me to be disappointed in the state of gaming. At least for the AAA publishers.

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 20 годин тому

      @Arponare Day 1 patch and broke on release are two separate things. You really should look at patch notes.
      A game that crashes every 5 minutes isn't the same as one that has the an NPC not face your chracter when talking.

  • @talal26
    @talal26 3 дні тому +7

    Games that support DLSS but then don't have DLAA option. As a filthy 1080p gamer, this is especially painful. And while DLSSTweaks exists, it doesn't work in every game unfortunately

    • @balloonb0y677
      @balloonb0y677 3 дні тому +1

      Dlss shouldn’t even be part of a general discussion

  • @Tempest261
    @Tempest261 9 годин тому

    100% agree with John on HDR. I don’t understand why it isn’t ubiquitous by now.

  • @LeoDavidson
    @LeoDavidson 3 дні тому +4

    Games that support HDR, but only if it's turned on for the entire desktop (which is absolutely RUINOUS), so you have to launch the game, realise HDR is off, exit the game, turn on HDR in Windows, re-launch the game and then remember to turn it off again when you're finished. Ugh.
    Even worse when the game completely hides the fact it supports HDR if it's off in Windows, so you either have to turn it on just in case or look up the game on PCGaming Wiki to know if you need to go through all that each time or not.
    (Also games that can turn HDR *on* automatically but won't turn it off when they exit, like the semi-official Control update that added HDR support. Not quite as bad, but still a lot of extra effort every time you play the game.)

  • @paolo2696
    @paolo2696 3 дні тому +9

    Input drops. And they always come at critical moments 😭

    • @simonrockstream
      @simonrockstream 3 дні тому +1

      bro what

    • @Kniffel101
      @Kniffel101 2 дні тому

      What the heck is an input drop?
      Never heard that term! =O

    • @paolo2696
      @paolo2696 2 дні тому +1

      @@Kniffel101 It's when the game doesn't read a controller input. Elden Ring is notorious for it because of the game's technical issues.

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 2 дні тому +4

    Broken HDR on PC ports of games when the console version is perfect.

  • @Mcnooblet
    @Mcnooblet 3 дні тому +2

    I thought Rich got a new Corsair chair, is this a old recording? He's back in the king chair here.

  • @JaelAraripe
    @JaelAraripe День тому

    All of this, and a lack of proper Dolby Atmos support. We have the software from Dolby that makes a decent job of faking it. But on my Soundbar (Samsung QW-990D), a noticeable amount of delay is introduced in the audio. This is a Windows problem mostly.

  • @Callanan2
    @Callanan2 День тому

    I have an HDR monitor. When I enable HDR in windows, it really, really sucks. It looks blown out, even after multiple calibrations. That really has to get fixed I think for people to come around on HDR On the whole

  • @apostolos8734
    @apostolos8734 3 дні тому +59

    The reliance on upscaling is a cardinal sin.

    • @RadioactiveBlueberry
      @RadioactiveBlueberry 3 дні тому +1

      On the other hand, 10 years later hardware has no issues running that same game with higher resolution and framerate. Most games never get remastered.

    • @KingSigy
      @KingSigy 3 дні тому +7

      I don’t think upscaling is any different from other forms of antialiasing. Who really cares if the game looks and runs great?

    • @apostolos8734
      @apostolos8734 3 дні тому +9

      @@KingSigy The problem is a lot of them don’t. Ghosting and blurry images are very common, especially in motion. Most people play at 1080p which makes the use of upscaling even worse. It also gives devs the excuse to not bother optimizing.

    • @ThinkTinkh
      @ThinkTinkh 3 дні тому

      Blame inflation

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 2 дні тому

      ​@@apostolos8734What is your source for most people?

  • @Jaggith
    @Jaggith 3 дні тому +3

    File sizes, patches, and HDR implementation still being shit in windows. Having bad options in game, but then hiding config ini file to modify the game.

  • @zdspider6778
    @zdspider6778 3 дні тому +5

    UI that doesn't scale with resolution. 😠 They end up as dingy little pieces of lint on the screen.

  • @KingSigy
    @KingSigy 3 дні тому +1

    I simply cannot get AutoHDR to work for anything. It turns on for games that already have HDR support, which is pointless.

  • @galegretti
    @galegretti 3 дні тому +1

    Every game could be a fast benchmark for graphical settings, equal to Tomb Raider 2013.

  • @Whit3WolfXArcadia
    @Whit3WolfXArcadia 3 дні тому +44

    Huge game file sizes that can easily eat up a 2tb SSD

    • @ThinkTinkh
      @ThinkTinkh 3 дні тому

      Whaaat? Which game eats up 2tb😬

    • @simonrockstream
      @simonrockstream 3 дні тому +2

      Thats the least of our problems, what a joke bro. Size? Really?

    • @sizablekoala6879
      @sizablekoala6879 3 дні тому +4

      ​@@simonrockstream Someone clearly doesn't live in a rural area where a 115GB download will take all day.

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 2 дні тому

      ​@@sizablekoala6879It is almost as if physical media has value

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 2 дні тому

      @@sizablekoala6879 And that is why physical media is so important and why we shouldn't embrace a digital future.

  • @dr.sivavignesh664
    @dr.sivavignesh664 2 дні тому +1

    Windows update just broke hdr and refresh rate settings for me.

  • @jimengab
    @jimengab 2 дні тому

    I wish there was more Mac support. Playing games with amazing HDR implementation while not having to deal with the buggy spyware that is Windows 11 is godsend.

  • @goonerlee
    @goonerlee 2 дні тому

    Crosshairs that you can't get rid of or shrink. I'm looking at you Kingdom Come and ESO.

  • @zdspider6778
    @zdspider6778 3 дні тому +2

    When the texture filtering option is "Ultra" and "High". 😠 Dafuq does that even mean?!
    I assume it means anisotropic filtering 16x. Which is not a "Ultra" anything, it's actually very cheap. So players will skip it for no reason, just because it's "Ultra". It's bullshit!!! Makes me mad.

  • @anthonyrizzo9043
    @anthonyrizzo9043 2 дні тому +1

    Launchers within launchers is pretty bad, then i dont remember passwords, then i gotta do a password reset or recovery, then by time thats sorted out, i might not want to play, but yes so many other issues like not supporting ultra wide, hdr, messed up, bad frametimes, bad optimization, overly blurry and or aliased games. Games with odd keyboard controls like fallout 76 are bad, games that tie physics to fps and then your locked at 60 is terrible. A lot of these things seem to happen in japenese developed games for some reason.

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 День тому

      Spand 5 bucks and buy a password book

    • @anthonyrizzo9043
      @anthonyrizzo9043 День тому

      @gothpunkboy89 so then i need to look at 2 or 3 passwords to play a game after it opens extra launchers for no reason? Nah, just wont play those games as much.

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 День тому

      @anthonyrizzo9043 How lazy are you.

    • @anthonyrizzo9043
      @anthonyrizzo9043 День тому

      @gothpunkboy89 ill gladly have people say im lazy over supporting stupid practices.

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 День тому

      @@anthonyrizzo9043 But it isn't stupid practices. It is the developer/publisher having a unified system all their games can interact with. Combined with the story front also having the same desire.
      It is the gaming equivalent of being upset that a house has doors in it and so decided that you would rather piss in a bottle then open 2 doors to get to the toilet.

  • @Tup3x
    @Tup3x 2 дні тому

    Missing (or not properly working) settings for anisotropic filtering is just something that I can't stand. At least with NVIDIA one can pretty reliably force AF in every game except Vulkan titles (I really whish that would change). Unfortunately AMD users are lucky if they can get it to work even in ancient

  • @kandoor1
    @kandoor1 2 дні тому +1

    100% lack of split screen / couch gaming games 🥲

  • @urazoktay7940
    @urazoktay7940 2 дні тому

    Amazing video, thank you Digital Foundry.

  • @michael6527
    @michael6527 3 дні тому +5

    File sizes. Lack of quality in “AAA” games. Minuscule text has been an egregious problem for years with too few games offering any kind of customization. Also online requirements on single player games. Rant over…for now.

  • @carlwheezer1544
    @carlwheezer1544 3 дні тому +18

    reliance on upscaling. absolutely hate it and all the downfalls it brings.

    • @fireWireX4
      @fireWireX4 2 дні тому +1

      Agree at least for PC.....a subsampling option (resolution scale multiplier) I'd better in my opinion

    • @fireWireX4
      @fireWireX4 2 дні тому +1

      Subsampling or supersampling in the case of 1.5X for example on a 1440p display to close to 4K....this is noticeably sharper and much better than upscaling technology in my opinion

  • @Xilent1
    @Xilent1 2 дні тому

    "Judder Survivor" 🤣
    The only launcher most people seem to be fine with is Rockstars. I dislike the fact I have to use it when GTA VI comes out.
    HDR & OLED is match made in heaven. It convinced me to buy higher tier GPUs for the Ray Tracing. When Gamers say RT is a gimmick, I'm like you have the wrong display and game.
    I want to like U.E. games, but to me they all look very similar if not alike, but with said game theme. It tries to hard to be a one stop solution, but causes what could've been a great game, a stutter fest. UE is poison to the gaming community. Even worse than people thinking its Devs being lazy to only utilize DLSS/FSR to gives us the frames we desire. Not to mention we lose the original image quality of the game with said tools. UE exist cause its a cash grab. You can make a high budget game in a fraction of the time, but with the cost of quality of the actual game. I can also say, it would be nice if publishers stop releasing games that won't work, bad quality etc, etc. It would be even better if MORE Gamers stop supporting those types of games. I waited 4yrs to play Cyberpunk and bought it $26 over 2024 holidays.

  • @MelissaAtwell
    @MelissaAtwell 3 дні тому

    DF punk band name: “Bespoke Low Hanging Fruit”

  • @ManCaveRo
    @ManCaveRo День тому

    Undercooked AAA $70+ games

  • @WesMordine
    @WesMordine День тому

    So PCs are stuck in the past! Ironic

  • @zdspider6778
    @zdspider6778 3 дні тому +14

    Games that require 179.4 GB free space. 😠

    • @Kniffel101
      @Kniffel101 2 дні тому +1

      Games can't have the most impressive 3D visuals ever, with diverse environments, and then just be 100MB. =P

    • @dr_diddy
      @dr_diddy 2 дні тому +2

      ​@@Kniffel101 but they can be sub 100GB

    • @Kniffel101
      @Kniffel101 2 дні тому

      @@dr_diddy Depends on how much they can reuse the same assets without the player noticing it and on how they can package / compress them.
      Honestly I'd personally be fine if for AAA we had something like AAA had between the Xbox360/PS3 and PS4/Xbox One generations. Both visually and budget-wise.

  • @sergvol3388
    @sergvol3388 3 дні тому +1

    Stuttering is the worse.

  • @MoeMunnie023
    @MoeMunnie023 3 дні тому +4

    30fps

  • @papichuckle
    @papichuckle День тому

    Upscaling and frame gen crutch and ue4 and 5

  • @JoseCoig
    @JoseCoig 3 дні тому +2

    On PC, some games (specially Japanese) at times won’t let you save for longer than half an hour. I’ve got a beefy rig with an RTX 4090, but with some titles, I still end up buying the worse looking (and more expensive) console version just because I can use sleep mode and jump right back in whenever I want.

  • @rayder3543
    @rayder3543 19 годин тому

    Exclusivity.

  • @CeceliPS3
    @CeceliPS3 3 дні тому

    I'll never forgive whoever did Serious Sam 4 and didn't fix the stupid constant stutters.

  • @whiteroserepublic1699
    @whiteroserepublic1699 3 дні тому +3

    Nvidious gimping expensive graphics cards by not providing enough VRAM.

  • @zdspider6778
    @zdspider6778 3 дні тому +4

    PSN account just to play a game on Steam. Disgusting. Whoever came up with that idea should do the Cersei walk of atonement.

    • @simon_1987
      @simon_1987 3 дні тому

      Bad enough you need a steam account.
      Too much drm on pc

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 2 дні тому

      So just like Microsoft requires years before?

  • @Acconda
    @Acconda 18 годин тому

    My biggest annoyance is all this crap of over analysing games and the sheep mentality. I take all this with a pinch of salt, most of the time I enjoy the games unless I watch DF review first, which I have stopped doing. I only watch content on this channel now about up coming details.

  • @nessunnome8500
    @nessunnome8500 3 дні тому +9

    pop in is the worst thing ever. it breaks the immersion completely.

  • @Rusty254
    @Rusty254 День тому

    Bad optimization.

  • @cdeppracing216
    @cdeppracing216 3 дні тому +4

    Abysmal Anti Aliasing

    • @lstsoul4376
      @lstsoul4376 3 дні тому

      Metaphor refantazio...

    • @realyrit
      @realyrit День тому

      Shoutout to TAA for making super-sampling mandatory if you want a clear image on 1080p

  • @BigALBoomer
    @BigALBoomer 3 дні тому +3

    Ray Tracing

  • @GarethFairclough
    @GarethFairclough 3 дні тому +5

    Huge game sizes, huge patches, unstable frame rates, poor image quality (from upscaling, frame gen etc), the list goes on! Most of all, however, it's the insistence people have for "MEGA HIGH REFRESH MONITORS!" that drives me nuts. 60 is fine, as long as it's stable.

  • @ThJbomb
    @ThJbomb 2 години тому

    I forgot why Hogwarts legacy irked you guys so bad.

  • @Funkopotamus920
    @Funkopotamus920 3 дні тому +1

    Lack of chapters on professionally produced youtube videos

  • @candacebreeze6764
    @candacebreeze6764 3 дні тому +3

    easy answer. you need 4090 to run a less than optimized games that riddle the gaming industry today.

    • @balloonb0y677
      @balloonb0y677 3 дні тому

      If the word had trouble transitioning to a $500 piece of hardware than it’s theoretically impossible to have the world transition to a piece of hardware that cost 5x as much

  • @ataksnajpera
    @ataksnajpera 2 дні тому +1

    HDR is bad for eyes.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 дні тому +1

      Nonsense

    • @ataksnajpera
      @ataksnajpera День тому +1

      @@DrakonR 1000 nits vs 100 nits.

  • @thezx5795
    @thezx5795 3 дні тому

    I feel like every game I've played has HDR. Like what are you guys playing?

  • @djtomoy
    @djtomoy 3 дні тому +2

    i’m offended by the horrible levels of violence in games, everything focuses on killing, fighting and war. even mario kills all those poor animals in his levels like he’s trying to drive them to extinction. this can’t all be good for the minds of the young generation.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 дні тому

      What a ridiculous statement.

  • @JKHYT
    @JKHYT 3 дні тому +1

    Will's problem was using the Microsoft Store and/or the Xbox app. If all your annoyances revolve around that, just don't use it? Steam or bust, everyone knows this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @balaam_7087
    @balaam_7087 3 дні тому +1

    You guys have done a lot of good in getting developers to notice things wrong with the current development environment, stuff like stutter and bad frame pacing. I wish someone at DF cared about Trophies and Achievements as much. The games industry desperately needs standardization across the board as to what is acceptable trophy criteria and what is not.
    Online server shutdowns rendering platinums unattainable? Absurdly difficult trophies? Tedious collect-a-thons or trophies based around modes not every might enjoy? These are all glaring issues.

  • @ThinkTinkh
    @ThinkTinkh 3 дні тому

    Is that child on the right new?

  • @Mkea_100
    @Mkea_100 3 дні тому

    first

  • @Kingofconsoles54
    @Kingofconsoles54 3 дні тому +6

    PLAYS BEST ON SUPERIOR PS5 PRO!!!!! MEGA L FOR THE QUEERBOX SERIES X FANQUEERS!!!!!!!

    • @sanjanajatoo4053
      @sanjanajatoo4053 3 дні тому +6

      fanboy alert

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 3 дні тому +9

      DF's biggest annoyance is Ryan Miller aka Kingofconsoles54 above & other attention seeking accounts he uses here 😂

    • @TickfordGhia
      @TickfordGhia 3 дні тому

      ​@@mikeuk666his mum must be thinking everyday what did i do to deserve this mega L of a kid.

    • @TickfordGhia
      @TickfordGhia 3 дні тому +3

      Ryan Miller. UK's biggest malaka