CRAZY Hints to Pokémon Legends: Z-A in OLDER Pokémon Games!
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Pokemon Legends: Z-A was just announced, but it turns out the game was being hinted to us long before it was revealed in OLDER Pokemon games! In this video, I'll be covering some of the most interesting hints I've noticed so far!
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0:00 - Hints to Pokemon Legends: Z-A!
0:47 - Sponsor
2:28 - Scarlet and Violet Hints
9:36 - Legends Arceus Hints
13:43 - Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde in Scarlet and Violet
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Thoughts
All I know is, while sucks we didn't get some kind of black and white remake, I think it'll be more exciting to wait til Gen 10 for that, as we usually get remakes every other generation, we had diamond and pearl remakes in Gen 8, so Gen 10 we should get not only remakes, but quite possibly another legends game, which either will be on mew or celebi, mainly to celebrate the 30ths anniversary of the franchise, as well as the 10th generation overall, all I can say is, in the next year or 2, we're going to get alot of pokemon projects
One hint you missed for Legends Arceus: a lot of the tracks include a lot of Sinnoh lietomotifs, but the second theme for Cobalt Coastlands instead uses Coumarine City’s theme from X and Y
Does it?
@@madnessarcade7447 yeah, specifically the postgame version (version 2)
Last summer, pokémon go had an event called "From A to Zygarde". I feel like that is significant
a couple of months ago, pokemon go added routes. as an incentive, you can find zygarde cells around routes. the quest is called "from a to zygarde"
This is fascinating when looking at this from the perspective of a clue. This never occurred to me even after legends Z-A was announced
@purplegh0st311 i didnt make the connection until literally two days ago, and only because i havent completed that quest yet 😂
@@vizzzyy190 after you helped me come to that realization, I think it’s safe to say that the Pokemon company has been planning Legends Z-A for awhile.
There's an interesting fact about the border of France and Spain: a river runs along the border of France and Spain, and there is an island known as "Phesant Island," both Spain and the Island have joint ownership of the island. Still, neither is permitted to build on the island without the consent of the other, which neither seems willing to do for the time being, so the island is basically a nature preserve for the time being.
At some point in the future, it could be fun to see this location make an appearance in the Pokemon franchise.
Unova has an Unfezant XD and a nature preserve somewhere out there.
@@AznYunHou A while back, when Scarlet and Violet still had yet to have their DLC drop, I made a suggestion that one of Scarlet and Violet could have a DLC that would give us an "Unphesant Island" where you would be able to catch Kalosian and Paldean Pokemon, but in reality, that didn't happen
@@dracone4370 there is also Fezandipity so I guess Pheasants are relevant recently too.
They used to swap that island too. France used to own it for 6 months of the year, then Spain would own it for 6 months, then back and forth again.
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT THE AURA TRIO WEREN'T IN THE INDIGO DISK
Near the blocked off area northeast of Paldea are three Dragon Tamers who all use Dragon-type Pokemon originally from Kalos. That might also have been a hint.
Not only that. Near the blocked off area, almost all Pokémon that spawn there are from Kalos.
You can thank me later.
This is basically every "kalos dlc hints" video released before the actual dlc lol funny how everyone forgot about these hints after indigo disk took us to unova. "We just didn't notice cuz johto and unova" nah, people noticed
I realized the other day why it is named Z-A
I was watching a video about why Z was never made after X and Y, the video talked about in the game files there were two reserved kalos games that were never made. Assuming that there would have been two sequel games like they did for black and white before and and sun and moon after, the games would have probably been named pokemon Z and pokemon A. And im sure we will learn the significance of the letters in the game when it comes out.
Kalos is based on northern France
Paldea borders southern France
Unless we get a region based on southern France in the future that land is blank territory till then
Kalos is the top half
Yup
Paldea is Spain.
@@user-rm3cx1je5nno shit Sherlock
Paldea is based on Spain and Portugal with a bit of Southern France, but Paldea is mostly based on Spain and Portugal tbh
I dont think Kalos on the map was a hint. More just to make sure Paldea didnt look like it was a island or smth.
People seem to forget that Kalos was based on the northern half of France, but I personally hope if they do make a proper Kalos remake, they add a second region based on the south
And maybe add Switzerland to that southern Kalos region
It is literally impossible not to look at Hoops’ Slowpoke plush and not smile😂
Since you mentioned the Aura trio not being present in SV, there are other legends completely absent. Like the Tapu Guardians.
PLA had the Kami trio from Unova present, so could PLZA have the Tapus involved somehow?
Now that is some good theory crafting, that really seems plausible actually
Or maybe Legends Alola will be the next Legends game
The next Legends game is Z-A.@@gustavju4686
We did get Zygarde in SM/USUM games although because Pokemon Z was scrapped. But to make sense of it all I would not be surprised if we do get references to Alola and Alolan Pokemon possibly added to the game. Legends Arceus did include the Forces of Nature and introduced a fourth one. Its possible The Tapus had or have a 5th member that can coincide with the 5-point star theme of Kalos/Lumiose City.
Lumiose City is the City of LIGHT. The theme of Sun and Moon. The Kalos and Alola legendaries are strongly connected for many reasons. So they could very well put the Tapu in Z-A. Maybe they’ll correct their mistake and give us a Fairy/Fire Tapu and then all five would match the five plazas in Lumiose.
If Rei was a hint for Legends ZA, then Hikari might be a hint towards a Alola legends game in which we are part of that other- worldly organization that controls the Ultra Beasts.
Isn't the design on the t-shirt from galar though? It's a loose top instead of a t-shirt but it's the same graphic.
I am pretty sure I heard it was from alola, but it's been a while since i've played either alola or galar games, so maybe my speculation is off.@@pebble6998
the aura trio not being in the DLC made the most sense for me. People were talking about Zekrom / Reshiram and all those tweets - which was utter nonsense
Oh my god thank you someone finally talking about the absence of the Gen 6 legendaries in scarlet/violet. I noticed and suspected Kalos but everyone was so hyperfixated on Johto or Unova.
This was very interesting, Hoops, and your video is an awesome occurrence for my birthday!
Something I also noticed which felt weird but makes sense now is the fact that Geeta's team was kind of random. She has 4 Paldean Pokémon, which makes sense, but she also has an Avalugg and a Gogoat who didn't fit in there at all. And to top it off she added Chesnaught to her team in the Indigo Disk which is A F-ING KALOS STARTER 🤯
That makes
4 Paldean Pokémon
3 Kalos Pokémon
(and Dragapult😂)
You can't tell me that this is a coincidence
Also Pokemon Go has a mission thing called from A to Zygarde. I wonder if that was a hint as well.
It funny that all the leakers didn’t know about this game. Which maybe people remember about a past remour about three DLC for Scarlet and violet and it was right till the third DLC which was called hexagon which is who is Zargarda. So this is why everyone was surprised this is the third DLC but now a game
I know some people were scratching their heads about the legends Arceas MC just being stuck in the past, it would be really cool to see an older version of them show up in kalos and have some vague dialogue about living here in a different time and making peace with where he his now, or maybe they could go as far as helping him get back to the future (TM) i think it would be the first time being able to meet a past MC other than red in gold and silver and ultra sun and moon to my knowledge
It'd be cool if we could connect our arceus save file to za and have the hisui protag appear with our chosen outfit and name, or more likely having arceus on your switch will be the prerequisite to unlock their quest in the post game
2 other possible hints:
The gen 9 champion has 2 Kalos pokemon on her team- Gogoat and Avalugg.
Have you noticed the past variants (jigglypuff and misdrevus for example) are not fully evolved? That's because they didn't have access to the evolution stones at the time. Guess who else fits in? That's right, Floette
galade
@@setsunian5283 Gallade is a future form
You know what, even if it's just a coincedence, good job with the thought process. It all makes sense and tracks.
And Magneton (given switch to using the Thunder Stone)
@@icicleman777 fair
It's pretty cool how Rei's shirt signifies that Legends ZA could've been in the works, or at least planned even before Legends Arceus came out. Also I'm glad that you pointed out how we all LITERALLY just forgot about the Aura trios exclusion from The Indigo Disk lol. Maybe we were just too hyper fixated on Johto or Unova as you said. Though I think that was probably a direct hint we could've taken towards this next game. 😂 Great video! 💯
Remind me what Akari's shirt was from?
I vould say it hinted at Legends Necrozma, and we would witness the events of Necrozma's light being taken in the Ultra Megalopolis or whatever that name is, with that reasoning.
When the dlc came out, I noticed the XY legends missing, and all I thought was 'huh, that's weird.' And then just hours after Z-A was revealed it clicked for me 'oh, that's why they're missing!'
I just hope that the aura trio gets megas...they felt ..incomplete
You can tell you really know pokemon and the way they work by now. love these discussion videos, see you in the next one
For me, the biggest indicator was the XYZ trio's absence from Scarlet and Violet. They brought everyone else but those three back, but it still felt like a shot in the dark to say that something Kalos related was coming. Boy am I glad I was wrong.
There's an Ash Greninja Painting in Nemona's House ( i'm not sure but i think it's there)
I think the fact that the Kalos region can be seen in Paldeas map was, looking back, a pretty big hint that something relating to the Kalos region was about to come.
7:39 the fact that area zero and az is just a coincidence cause "area zero" is only in english, italian and japanese. For instance in spanish, it's called "Área Cero", so it doesn't make sense.
in German it's "Zone Null" so yea it makes no sense
I'm so glad they are taking a year off to work on ZA.
I was reading bulbapedia while watching this and:
"Professor Sycamore theorizes that Mega Stones originate from special stones, potentially Evolution stones, that were irradiated by the power of XerneasX/YveltalY that was fired from the ultimate weapon 3,000 years ago."
What if these special stones were in fact tera orbs or tera crystals?
EF Floette can't be a Paradox for this reasons:
- paradoxes only have 570 or 590 base stats
- paradoxes are meant to look ancient or futuristic and EF Floette doesn't look as neither of them
Floette AZ is variation of a middlestage pokemon, we find it only in paradox pokemon.
AZ reminds Area Zero.
The origin of paradoxes still is not so clear.
Gamefreak could do a very nice scarlett and violett update: with a legend za save file the locked area would be unlocked, starting a new episode, the Z episode, in which they can fix lore lacks about paradoxes and maybe introduce paradox floette
Just my personal thoughts:
I noticed a connection you missed. the sundial in anistar city in Kalos that has a very distinct description that parallels the crystals responsible for terastallizing pokemon found around the time machine in scarlet and violet. The crystals that make up the sundial also look very similar in material and since the ultimate weapon required an insane amount of energy(thought to be a reason the sundial gives off the mega evolution energy) not only could remnants of it be likely if it created the area zero, but also could have been from crystals originating from Kalos. It's not impossible to believe that the energy combined by the ultimate weapon resulted in the slight alteration or amplification of those crystals and upon being used by the ultimate weapon were distributed like spores where the weapon hit. Enabling them to grow in an ideal environment likely due to a phenomenon similar to radiation but causing the opposite effects (life/power instead of death).
Would be cool if beating legends ZA unlocks some event in that blocked off area in Scarlett/Violet on your switch
Theres also the greninja painting in Nemonas house
I wonder if we'll get a paldea legends game in the future. Until the starters for the new games are revealed, I will forever think that popplio and its evos are gonna be one and primarnia might get a Phantom of the Opera reference regional form.
The aura trio not being in the indigo disk never really clicked cause my brain was questioning why the two horse legendaries from Sword and Shield's Crowned Tundra dlc were the only two brought to Scarlet and Violet via a dlc besides Kubfu and it's evo instead of Calyrex, Zacian, and Zamazenta. [Idk if the legendary bird trio's galar forms count.] Plus other legendaries like the element trio and some mythicals ain't available via capture in the dlc and are only available via transfer [Calyrex, Zacian, and Zamazenta and the aura trio included]
I feel like we could go back to Alola sometime soon as well. Why? That was the first place where NPCs lost their memory and awoke in a new place they’ve never been like Looker, Ingo, and the bald guy on the beach in Alola.
Looker is first seen in Sinnoh and then Kalos.
Ingo was in BW then ends up in Hisui back in time.
Crazy how all these reigions play a part when it comes to space and time and mysteries I can’t wait to see how it comes together!
You forgot the Greninja mural in Nemo's house lol
So... 2022 legends arceus - 2025 legends z-a
2023 detective pikachu returns - 2026 some gold/silver remake game? Since there are huge Lugia and Ho-oh posters in one of the mansions for no reason... It seems like hints are usually given 3 years before the next game...
Year of the snake = Snivy confirmed as Legends Z minus A starter.
yeah, these feel like stretches, or coincidences
Are all the Pokemon, that show up in the space time distortions, available in kalos?
I guess a hint was when pokemon home updated sprites for the megas
This made me wonder if the eternal flower flowet is a paradox pokemon
Since legends ZA isnt coming out next year, there HAS to be something more that has to come to SV to keep the games going.
this is the video i've been waiting for
Is the naming Area Zero aka AZ alil nod too?
I had a thought: if Floette is revealed as a Paradox Pokemon, and it’s in all likelihood a Past form, would its Future form look and represent the timeline where AZ had destroyed Kalos/All Pokemon, but stayed by AZ’s side?
Because I can totally see AZ losing the rest of his humanity after such a monstrous act (plus the trauma of what he’s seen, and further loss in a 3000yr span) and even extending that same regard to all Pokémon, including Floette.
It believably could have lead to him having been driven completely mad by the anxiety at the thought of ever losing Floette again (despite Floette literally being biological immortal) but especially the fear of being alone for another 3000 years, could make him take “Immortal” to its extreme and quite literally, leading him to experiment on Floette to the point of forcing them to turn into Future Floette (Ruined Melody/Withered Melody/Songless Melody?)
It would also completely explain why in the future we see so many future Pokemon looking the way they do; it could have been the result of AZ’s guilt at the Pokémon’s lives he took, and overcorrected everything he could to preserve them.
Which might explain why the Future ones are so aggressive; it’s basically a Fruits Basket/FNAF situation-they are being forced to live past what is normal by the same abnormal means he used to create the Ultimate Weapon.
could area zero be the area where the ultimate weapon's beam hit or was part of the war that took place
Are we just skipping the whole narrative of the giant war that went on that many comment in the Kalos side created the great crater of Paldea?
Wait... Light of Ruin... That reminds me of the Ruin Legendaries with their Treasures of Ruin. Do you think Floette is a potential 5th member of this?
8:06 well that shirt design doesn't look so familiar
Something that i saw on the trailer was big circle around the map i think that they will be the boss fights either alphas or new-old megas that you will need to beat to get new areas for the town
CALLING IT: Eternal Flower Floette will evolve into Xerneas!
I'm guessing that the marked section of the Paldea map is less of a hint towards Legends Z-A and more just blatantly referring to where Kalos is in relation to the rest of Paldea. After all, the real world inspiration of the locations are close like that. As for why it's inaccessible, that's likely because S/V is fully Open World, while X/Y were linear, and they didn't know quite how to translate that area of the Kalos map into Open World.
Area Zero having the initials AZ is likely just a coincidence. But who knows. If it is a hint, I like that it doesn't feel forced.
2025 being the Year of the Snake, and being the year Legends Z-A releases it highly unlikely to be just a coincidence. But that's likely only in the sense of why we're getting a Kalos Legends game rather than a Unova Legends game (if one will even be made).
Out of curiosity, when arceus was announced and then released we got brilliant diamond, and shinging pearl the year before. Is there a chance we might be getting an x and y remake this year, as legends is in 2025?
There's an NPC on the beach near where you can do the bidding that I think beaks in French or says some French things
5:32 No one else remember that train station that leads to another region in gen 6? Paldea was always a region in mind. I hope ZA alludes to this.
Tell me where there is a train station in Paldea then
Tell me why that trian station would go to Paldea when the tracks were leading eastward in the direction of what would be the Pokemon version of Germany.
@shadymahe haven't played the game yet soo...
@clemente3966 oh shit germany confirmed? Tbh I don't remember where it was going. I just know we couldn't go on the train, unfortunately.
@@thelordoftheweebs9501
Damn, I haven't heard about that train station recently before reading your comment, and I haven't played X in years, AND a lot happened since, both in pokemon, and irl for me, yet I still remembered it.
Do I just have a better memory in general (I mean, cases like that have happened to me multiple times already), or is it simply you, for this time, that simply has a just bad enough memory to remember it yet not remember the direction it was aimed at? Not that I would blame you for it, I'm just curious about which it is.
Southern Kalos is probably going to be a different region. If Japan can get four regions, why can’t France have two?
There should be a game where you could travel to all the regions in one game
Maybe Area-Zero was the impact sight of the ultimate weapon or whatever it was called that AZ built, there was a war after all.
Time doesn't match
I can't say much against the data about Megas in Legends Arceus, there defo was something going on during the development. Nor can I say much about those two Paradox mons, or the Aura trio not being at BB Academy,
BUT
Rei wearing a Kalos shirt being a hint? Then Akari wearing an Alola shirt was hinting at Legends Necrozma all this time, but look where that took us😒
Mentioning that area that would be the south west of France in real life, and saying that it was intentional? Yes it was, for continuity of the inspiartions, like how Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh, Unova and Kalos itself had land outside the region and not water just because irl, the places also have other countries (or states) surronding them. That's no hint at all. And mentioning that maybe we could one day see that part, yeah, that copium might be hitting a bit hard, because a tweet from the official twitter account mentioned that it's going to be all in Lumiose. You can't stay more in the northern part of France that inspired Kalos than by staying in the liddle of it.
And you would think that this point about Area Zero being related to AZ because of these initials would carry over to French, since it is related to Kalos. WRONG! It's called the Zone Zéro in French. Another point lost to the bias of confirmation.
In the end, only three points that I've noted (not that I would have missed a lot of them) can still make sense, one of them being about the development of a game, which can simply be a simply decision of the devs not to put the megas in after programming parts of it and simply not thinking about taking it out, and two paradox mons, one of which is a robot which can be explained by the hypothesis that the one who made the first like the design of mega gallade, and the other one having an explanation in the form of the pokedex entries of mega aerodactyl in both X, the Moon games, and the Let's go games, claiming that it was its true appearance, which could also be the case of Roaring Moon.
In the real end, only the Aura trio misisng can't be explained that easily with an explanation not involving Legends ZA.
If I had to qualify this video with one word, it would be copium.
Copium of thinking that there was a big brain moment here.
idk man I got a ridge wallet and while it's nice how small it is, it's a PAIN when you want a specific card out of it.
Everyone wants EFF to be obtainable but no one considers that it would break the lore since it’s one of a kind and it has to be wild so that it can go back to AZ in the future
counter point: every single legendary
It would be interesting if the Eternal Flower Floette was the, Now don't hate me for saying this... But its the "PRE-ORDER BONUS" when you Pre-Order the game...
Nah I think she'll be too integral to the plot to be a preorder bonus, probably a guaranteed story encounter or make us find her in a flower field hiding place after the first encounter like giratina
@@anny8720 Hmm, Might be right... We'll just have to wait and see
Nice
Holly shit, paldean Map size just like a 5 small circle of lumiose map pokemon legend z.a ? So lumiose city must be huge than GTA v map 😮😮😮😮
Wicked! ❤
In scarlet violet nemonas house there is a picture of greninja hinting za
I knew Unova remakes weren’t coming because with the exception of Kanto remakes, they always come in even numbered generations
Gen 4 gave us Heart Gold and Soul Silver Johto
Gen 6 gave us Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire Hoenn
Gen 8 gave us Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl Sinnoh
So following this pattern, if Unova DOES get remakes they won’t be until the 10th generation… though I still don’t want Unova remakes. Unova is only decent in 2
10:04 Lucas not rei
Rei is the rival if u pick Dawn
It's reis not lucus I'm playing pokemon arceus right now lucus is dawn's rival it u play dawn
There’s kind of a plot hole with AZ’s Floette unless it’s a distribution I can’t see AZ giving it up because he loves it so much. He even made a doomsday weapon and sacrificed other Pokémon to bring it back to life.
Considering AZ only redeems himself in xy and until then floette hides herself from him, it's fine for us to be floette's temporary owner like Cogita and enamorus. I think it'll be like miraidon/koraidon in sv where we receive AZ's floette but it's restricted from being transferred to home and we receive another to keep (maybe from discovering the last remaining eternal flower field since its dex entry says it's extinct in present day or floette's daughter). I hope we get it as a flabebe so we can see the eternal flower variant in all of its evolution stages.
Pokemon x and y had a lot of kalos/Z references lol, it was just a matter of time and complaints.
The female character also wears a shirt from a previous gen but it’s for alola, hop that means we’re getting legend Alola afterwards
i am calling it the 3rd legends game will be in alola
I wonder if this Legnds game is a paradox in it of it's as if di d Gamefreak long term plan this game out or did Game Freak had an emergency meeting their investors on changing plans last minute due to Palworlds resection instead of making Black and White remakes
We weren't given any clue that Legends ZA is going to include mega evolution. We got the symbol, that's it, and not confirmation
You in denial bro
@@isaiahmorgan423how so
Neither side has any confirmation
I don't mind the hype, but it's baseless and everyone's acting like it's confirmed, including creators
@@bastionsea2829 why else would they even include the symbol on the trailer then? Use common sense
@@isaiahmorgan423 they've had armored Mewtwo and the crystal Onix too, common sense says it won't happen
"spain and rest of iberian peninusla" bro disrespecting portugal like that
Pokemon Legends: Zed-Alpha sounds better
Eternal flower flowette is the original ruin pokemon & AZ was the king.
Allergies with you too?
Started a month ago with me. I have nice pills against the most symptoms.
Commented so much about this floette on so many videos. Not one UA-camr paid attention at all. Poof here comes all the content :,)
What if the eternal weapon is what created the great crater of paldea, causing the ancient paradox Pokémon like Roaring Moon to go extinct. And the ricocheting energy from the lives of the pokemon and the eternal weapon is what created mega stones/energy 🤷♀️
Cool!!!🌟🌟💯💯
Did you know?
Near the blocked off area where Kalos should be located, almost all Pokémon that spawn there are from Kalos.
You are welcome.
some of these are the biggest reach imaginable
Plot twist: AZ’s Floette is male.
The male player's starting outfit in PLA isn't really evidence for anything. The female player wore a T-shirt from Sword and Shield and shorts from Sun and Moon. They just reused assets because they didn't wanna model and texture a new outfit for what would become redundant in the first half hour of the game.
I❤Kalos
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Love ur videos😊
Thank you!! 😄
They hinted at it with the change to the Light of Ruin move
he said that
@@setsunian5283 I just kept saying it once I saw a video until he finally said it. I will stop saying it now.
you missed the ash greninja picture from scarlet and violet, it appears in nemonas house, i think it was intentional. Is asg greninja coming back?
I have to disagree with the last part because just because a pokemon is absent doesn't mean this is hints for a new game. If that was the case, then where's Legends Victory? Absences shouldn't count for hints.
not to mention xerneas would be balancing hell in sv
Well, at least my boi zygarde is getting the love it rightfully deserves, not trying to be offensive
It's a good thing he didn't say that the Aura Trio's absence was the only proof. He only listed off a ton of other evidence.
Did this man really just say "Spain and the rest of the Iberian Peninsula"? There are 3 nations there, Portugal, Spain and the Principality of Andorra (Gibraltar is UK territoy so it does not count as a nation). Being Portuguese I hate when that happens, specially when anyone just says "rest of" as if there were just tiny bits of non-spanish lands. Portugal is one of the oldest countries in the world, older than Spain. If you don't know it, go check it, its a pretty country with a weird and very rich history. And for those who don't know, Portuguese comes from Portugal, not Brasil (even if its in the name, there's a lot of people that think otherwise).
AZ
Bright 🍬 😅💋
PARticular* not PAticular
Doesnt AZ kinda look like an older Arven? That would make sence if he would have continued the time traveling his parents did before they died so I think it wouldn't be that weird of a theory. Arven also starts with an A and if his last name started woth a Z his initials wpuld be AZ explaining AZ's name
That’s actually such a good theory but the thing is though what about his Mabosstiff and other pokemon? Do they die or does he have them but chooses not to use them? Or could AZ be Arven’s, and Sada/Turo’s ancestor?
I feel like we are gonna get Eternal Flower Floette as a past Paradox Pokemon, fully revealing it to be a Paradox Pokemon rather than a form of Floette, and then we will also get a future Paradox of Floette, called Iron Flower or something. Can't wait to see what's gonna happen in this game.
Since Scarlet and Violet received a lot of hate and criticism, I doubt gamefreak would be willing to bring anything from those games into future titles to avoid bringing over that hate and criticism.
@@vanthemanproductions9185 SV has sold 24 million copies, that's more than almost all Pokemon games. These games are objectively amazing, all the hate that came out of the super vocal minority on the interent. And even on the interent lots of people love the Paradox Pokemon
@@RoyArkon objectively amazing? Alright dude I’m not gonna even try