Will Boris Johnson's Brexit plan fly?
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- This week Boris Johnson unveils his proposal for a deal, but how has it gone down in the EU?
In conversation with Gary this week are Peter Foster, Europe Editor of the Daily Telegraph - the man who first brought you a leak of the deal - and James Kirkup, director for the Social Market Foundation, but before that writing about politics at The Telegraph.
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".. the absolute inability of the UK to make fact-based decisions on it´s future!" That about describes the whole misery in a nutshell!
The guy on the right looks like he's got brexit fever.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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terry C That was just what I was s thinking. What a face! I think he’s got a bad hangover
ha ha ha
It’s highly contagious!
The guy on the right looks like he just woke in a dumpster outside a rock venue on the forth day of a drinking bender then suddenly realised he had an interview booked. This is the best Brexit discussion I've seen in weeks ! :) LOL
Except for the fact that both sides are not represented. All they have discussed are the problems with Brexit. They presented Remoaner arguments on a Remoaner's network.
@@PGO_Gaming We've heard from BoJo, who said he'd rather be dead in a ditch. And for once I would not disagree with him.
Black Bull
That's because Brexit only has problems and no benefits, at least in reality. This may be perceived differently by some individuals, but serious real life problems are typically discussed on the basis of reality, not illusions.
And still makes more sense than most politicians in Westminster.
@@docmalthus Just like he would lie in front of the bulldozer if they went ahead with a new runway at Heathrow. Still that's good old Bojers an untrustworthy POS.
I've never seen a more tired man in my life.
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Have you ever been to an airport
@@Christinebanks11 All the time George. I use them when I fly to other countries.
I'd bet he was given that jacket by Channel Four.
Om gosh. Who is that?! Why is he nodding off on TV? That's how my son looked in church two weeks ago in the 2nd row of the church. 😂😂😂
DEAR CHANNEL 4: please can you Tag videos like this with "Gary Gibbon"? He's an excellent political commentator, and the sole reason I watch your channel. He deserves his own show and/or podcast. At least include his name in the title.
THANK YOU.
"Will Boris Johnson's Brexit plan fly?" Answer. Not without a zipline. And even then it will probably get stuck.😂🤣
It will fly....it booked with Thomas Cook :-)
Remaining is our only option. Lying Tories.
there'll be one with a pin
@@clairduffy60 unlikely. Parliament doesn't run the country London City does. Do you think a City that took out the Monarchy in the Civil War would lose its stock market to a EU Frankfurt? You know that the London has 25% of global wealth stored in trusts and tax havens? You think London would allow the EU to touch that..... here's a history lesson for you London has been a power house since the fall of Rome. The Empire didn't end it transformed. They will be a push to a Commonwealth union after we leave the EU that way London can keep taking money from Africa and stop China moving in (they have built military and police bases in Africa) and messing around with the wealth the Elite steal. The EU is broke the Euro was designed to strengthen Germany but it messed up because the "Brits" vetoed tax reforms we bought cheese and cars while the Elite stored thier money in London. People say leavers are uninformed 🤣🤣🤣. Remain or Leave it's just an illusion of choice to hide the fact we are all slaves to the banks.
It will fly straight into the garbage bin.
James Kirkup looks like he needs to catch up on the sleep his ancestors missed
M Allsorts sounds like it too
Love it
Will the plan fly?
Short answer: No.
Long answer:
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
It's not meant to fly, when it smacks you in the face like the Prorogation did🤣🤣mugs 31 we are out DO OR DIE
@@prof2bobajob.klonded5 I don't quite follow where you're going with this. In what way did prorogation smack ME in the face?
@@cinderball1135 well you did not see it coming did you
@@prof2bobajob.klonded5 Euh, yes I did. Everybody saw it coming. Johnson only mooted doing it for *months* in advance...
How can eliminating poor workers de stabilising? Explain
Someone go and get that guy a double espresso and a Mars bar...he's about to flake out!
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I was thinking strong drink would be in order ?
I can understand the double espresso but why the Mars bar? 😆
@@Evan490BC he needs to Work, Rest & Play ;)
The dude on the right looks like he's having some sort of breakdown
Sleep deprivation?
😂😂😂
I wonder how many MP's got addicted on uppers because of Brexit.
James Kirkup (right) is cracking me up! He speaks/drinks for all of us.
Q: Will Boris Johnson's Brexit plan fly? A: No.
We're leaving anyway.
Here's "the deal". We're leaving. So on October 31, 2019, I think we should get Noel Edmonds to do a TV show called "Deal or Deal". And it should be broadcast live from Deal. Deal?
@@manjay49
Deal.
@@jasondevon481 are we? :D nahhhh... do not think so
@@manjay49 I like the prospect of getting Noel Edmonds involved!! This would make it even more entertaining :D
The guy on the right looks like he hasn't slept since the referendum
It will fly like a pig with a Tory hanging out of it.
The guy on the right has a terrible hangover.
we must maintain access to the single market.
... especially amsterdam.
- guy on the right.
It's Tommy Wiseau's long lost brother.
I think he's a brexit disorder
Rip London and parliment on the 31st.
Sad day for London and England.
Black Philip
Probably nobody ever told you, but you are an independent nation.
@@frankschneider6156 you would like to think so.
Some terrific analysis here, well done this time channel four
Trouble is the guy (left) is talking rubbish - or lies, depending if it is deliberate or not. His Customs thoughts are just RUBBISH wrong, lies.
Boris speaks with forked tongue either by intent or natural ignorance of trade and customs regime. Unworkable proposal
The incredible bulk and his band of merry Eton deceivers are in pay of billionaires
@@blackphilip8936 nonsense, Boris has just pledged he will ask for an extension
@@jacobjorgenson9285 yea 5min extension to mug you lot off 🤣🤣🤣🤣🖕
@old mutt 1 oh I get it!
@@prof2bobajob.klonded5 2030
How come Peter is so informed and clear about the realities here; but his paper inflames with wild rhetoric?
really would like to see him to answer that question!!!!
That is what I wondered about also!
Guy on the right has been awake since 2016. He's even wearing the same cloths he had on in 2016. The more this video goes on the more i come to realize the guy on the right is a fucking legend!
They were both very good. I really liked listening to their comments!
Seconded! I've looked like this at work for the last 20 years! He represents the will of the people … to just hold our s**t together until the pubs open again...! LOL :)
Love how the comments are all just roasting James Kirkup
The man on the right keeps rolling his eyes back into his head,he keeps sipping coffee as he does this,he looks like hes fighting the effects of some strong weed
I suppose he could be blind or partially sighted...?
He doesn't Iron his shirt for TV either.
He is certainly his own man.
9:48 Excellent! "Campaign in poetry, BREXIT in prose !" Brilliant!
The second guy looks as a very tired Brexit negotiator.. and makes no-sense.
The guy on the right is not drunk or hungover he is just tired of repeating himself because nobody is listening! That’s Brexit
1. Watches video. 2. Thinks: "This probably has some intelligent comments under it." 3. Wades through hundreds of Mr Bean references. 4. Suddenly understands Brexit in its tragic entirety.
The guy on the right is Mr Bean.
Man on the right deffo looks like he has been up all night.
hmmmmmmm-magic!
Nope. He will get an extension. As ive said 100 times. Were not leaving on the 31st.
@transit journal You should ask BJ that.
The gentleman on the right doesn't look too well
Yes sick of the left .
The fellow on the right must have Mr. Bean somewhere in his family.
"But will it fly!" Boris shouted into the crowd.
He held up high what looked to be a turd with pigeon feathers stuck into it.
Everyone is holding their breath as he let's go of Britain's future...
... it floats majestically...
... and slams into the ground.
And then crowds roar, they slay, they all say:
"BLAME THE EU"
Ha! Ha!
Dry your tears its coming tick tock tick tock😂🤣🤣🖕
Best analysis I’ve heard so far. Well done Channel 4.
Thanks Gary, without you I´ld never understood a scrap of this Brexit novel.
Indeed! Written June 2016.
James Kirkuk needs drug testing or he’s had one to many
You meant "," rather than "or"
Put your hands together for "The guy on the right" comment section!
The whole "Boris" thing is silly. He's called Alexander Johnson. His friends call him Alex. Both of them.
I love all your comments M R. Keep going, don't take any prisoners!
Mom and dad arent considered to be called friends.
Which is a good reason to keep calling the man Boris or even Bojo. You wouldn't want to be mistaken for one of his friends.
@Amanda Hughes Your real name isn't Amanda Hughes. That's really obvious!
@Amanda Hughes Very funny! I keep asking you what the other one is and you keep shutting up, Olga!
Boris Johnson is like the captain of the Titanic that thinks the heat of his invective and the warmth of his charm will melt the iceberg before we hit it.
Eye and it was a left wingers lump of whiskey ice that the ship hit
The guy on the right is rambling like he's still pissed from the night before and looks like death
Obsession never flys.
The guy on the right is the physical manifestation of Brexit 😂
"It's fight club"
Hahaha the guy to the right.... 1:00 ... That's the eyes of Mr. Bean.
Brexit eye it's called in these times
@@jacobjorgenson9285 haha!
Guy on right looks like he got hammered and is on black coffee. 😁
bloke on the right needs to talk to frank.
Gary this is an excellent series. Calm, intelligent, conversation with people who seem to know what they are talking about. Good work - thanks to all involved.
I love these in-depth Brexit analysis. I can't say James Kirkup, the guy on the right, feels the same.
From Ohio, USA. In all that I have been listening the last week+, my question is: Is the goal of the DPU and BoJo to return to bombs and Troops in Northern Ireland? Aside from all the other issues and there are plenty, I just listen and think, those old school Catholics and old school Protestants want to get back to the “good old days.”
The guy on the right didn't get any sleep last night because he was reading all the 'guy on the right' comments underneath this video
Is the guy on the right Mr Bean's brother, (also Mr Bean )?
Wouldn't it be a great movie, "Mr Bean's Brexit"
I gave myself a stitch laughing at that.
Great program. I have learnt a lot for a change.
ITS ALL BS.
this is probably Channel 4's strongest format: having two people talk to Gary Gibbon as equals (who assume familiarity with the complex issues involved) elicits higher level analysis than when journalists talking straight to camera feel they have to dumb down their coverage so that the 'average' viewer at home can follow it.
so how do we move forwards?
Well, we do live in a democracy, so now that all the facts are known and public, maybe ask the people ifd they are sure this is what they voted for... Dis-united Kingdom, with no extra money for the NHS, factories closing, and a shrinking service sector (so less tax, so less money for services, so more austerity)...
Oh, and even fewer shops to spend what little you have left in!
is the guy in the right ....right? looks very tired,ill, drunk...or all three😟
I like this one!! Serious, mature, yet humble talk!
Love it 💗💗💗
Bottom line, in todays world things have become very integrated. We have so many complex ties to EU, it is impossible to just cut those ties quickly & cleanly without huge disruption to the English, Scottish, Welsh & Irish economies. What ever happens, other than staying in the EU trading block or closely aligned to it, is going to take a long time to untangle & sort out.
MR Spoon exactly, northern Ireland is on the frontline of this nightmare. Boris says TWO borders is now his solution. The UK now means the Unicorn Kingdom, where all sorts of fantasmagorical things are possible. Sadly, those things dont exist in the real world.
I would like to see a deep analysis of the formulation of the referendum. I would like to see a discussion about the questions that the referendum asked the people to vote and an analysis of these questions to see if they were comparable each other and with same weight.
Why not put it to the people of Northern Ireland whether they want to belong to the single market or whether they want to belong to whatever trade deal the UK will come up with
Extremely clear vision on what is going on here
Great--now they're talking about Northern Ireland and the republic getting dragged down the referendum rabbit-hole. How could that possibly go wrong?
The Torygraph .Good point , the more it goes up in Brussels the more it goes down in Parliament .
The baddie from thunderbirds🤓
So there are sane people left in the UK media after all..
4:47 cant that guy keep his face straight?
Guys I think Boris deal is good - but having looked at the entire situation - I have come up with a way of Keeping NI in the single market and customs union, Ireland in the EU and no boarders between the two nations... which I think is a bit better than what our beloved Prime minister currently has...
If you will like to discuss it - send me a message and I can make myself available.
Advance Britannia...
But what about a secret ballot amongst MPs on a second referendum????
The thing about democracy, is that to be able to vote for an MP, you need to know what they stand for. How do secret ballots assist in that?
In any negotiation ,if you cant get a an agreement on both sides you simply walk away
It’s so clear that the very best deal we can get is the one we got now
You miss the point we do not need a deal to trade wiith the EU they trade all over the world on WTO terms so why should we pay billions let out siders decide our world trade and allow EU nationalsd freedom from our UK courts when they breck our laws.
I live in Somaliland; what is the problem if the Uk make another referendum? the UK was grandfather,s and grandmother,s government and I would say don,t leave from European members
According to some, another referendum would go against the results of the first referendum and thus be undemocratic ("hold votes until you get the result you want").
Then there is the issue that people are so fed up with the current situation and just want to get it over with, which could make another referendum 'unfair' and not in the spirit of things.
On top of that Brexit is a REALLY COMPLICATED matter, meaning you cannot expect the average person to get a full grasp of it all - how can you somebody vote in good conscience if they do not know what the consequences of their vote will be.
And finally... there is the question on *what* the referendum should be about.
Revoke vs leave with a deal? Hardline brexiteers are unhappy.
Revoke vs no deal? Moderate leavers are unhappy.
Deal vs no deal? Remainers are unhappy.
Revoke vs deal vs no deal? Everyone is unhappy because votes will be split.
Should it be legally binding or only advisory (like the first)?
When is it going to be held; before or after an election?
Is there even enough time to hold one?
Lot's of questions. No answers. Welcome to Brexit land.
You know we prefer 'Cockwomble' not 'BoJo' right? Just saying. Peace...
I had no idea Martin Freeman knew so much about the internal workings of the EU! A man of surprises :p
Hahahahahahaha!!
HE DOESN'T.
@@malteseowl hehe :p
Wouldn't usually comment like this but he did say it twice.... Northern Ireland has a population of 1.8 million people, not 3 million.
Poor tired smart man. If he could replace all the sounds he made with understandable words, we would get more out of him.
Just give up the colony. End of problem
No. And he knows it.
My man on the right is monging it. Watching him talk is making me tired.
This is so insightful. I now see no landing zone in sight. In theory leaving NI in the Single Market would work but only if Britain maintained regulatory equivalence. NI in, Britain out can work for goods but not services. Otherwise how could say an architect, a vet or a lawyer train in NI then go to work in UK?
@Benghali In Platforms Pure bullshit. The whole concept of the Belfast Agreement is the principle of consent. i.e. one side of community does not drag the other into an arrangement without majority in both communities. Allowing the DUP to decide the irrevocable future of Northern Ireland against the will of the majority is tantamount to tearing up the Belfast Agreement. This is anti democratic in the extreme. A referendum in NI on remaining in the Single Market would pass by a majority in both communities.
So entertaining seeing this theater. Talking about a fairy tale as it were a serious proposal 😀. Tragic for UK, entertaining for the world.
So refreshing to have people who know what they’re talking about
I thought I had heard all there was to be said in this topic until these guys showed up. Jaw dropping in the implications. All of a sudden everything gets even more difficult and stunningly fascinating. Even Dominic Cummings has not this level of nerdy detail.
Tunnel of negotiations? Another deceitful phrasing. There's an ocean wide of negotiation possibilities.
The guy on the right has been interviewing Jennifer Arcuri for the last 5 days..
"How is that cycle going to be broken?" By a second referendum. It the only, inevitable, unavoidable conclusion that we have been grinding towards for 3 years. Eventually the penny will drop.
Gibbon's "Where Next?" series is simply superb. A rarity in the inundated pop-news culture of 1-minute-bite. Thorough thoughtful reflections of insiders' insights, devoid of hyperbole & spin (thank God). Though borderline academic in substance and laced with nuggets of history - it is more realistic than most actual policy discourse. Yes, and that "inability to make fact-based decisions" quote, and that "MPs would probably vote for May's deal had it been secret" quote (ironically that's sometimes how EU hashes out quite effective beneficial policies - rarely mentioned - it's always bendy bananas huh?)
how to undercut bojo's strategy ? very simple :-) long before bojo can choose not to ask for an extention, the eu grants an extension, saying that the uk can use it to work on the shaky parts of the deal... then if bojo says "no deal", first it's his fault :-) and then, hopefully, the pms & supreme court will say "no deal" is unlawful before the end of the extension :-)
Mug you cant even work out what's happening can you🤣🤣🤣🤣🖕31oct
Welcome to the Unicorn Kingdom, where all things can be possible! Northern Ireland can have 2 borders whilst having no borders all at the same time. Thanks Boris & pals for this cunning plan
We will blame the eu for the one board they will build, after boris mugs you of again. tick tock tick tock🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LLT Collection why dont they go with open borders in Ireland. Have everything checked in the Irish Sea. Then all they have to do is onboard the ships, which take a few hours of sailing, the UK can check the cargos & allow goods from NI manufacturers duty free into England.
I was expecting the guy on the right to sound like Droopy
I was expecting him to fall asleep and drop on the ground :))
Sell it to England. Wales and Scotland. If there is s shortage of milk in In Ireland, then blame Varadkar
Permanently leave northern Ireland in the EU for trade. They didn't want to leave the EU at all so shouldn't have an issue with it. Simple.
A Kelly That would actually solve the bulk of issues but how’s a Tory government supposed to make that fly? They’re the Conservative and Unionist Party. That’s not even getting into the DUP specifically, or unionists in general.
@@beane6426 It''s only for trade then checks done coming into mainland like any other EU import. Exports to northern Ireland from mainland UK have to met EU regulations but sounds a lot less hassle than dealing with any sort of boarder within Ireland.
Lets see Boris' new trade deal with America!
That he will NEVER get if he shafts Ireland. The USA is run by the Irish.
For the love of fecking God can someone in the British media learn how to say "Taoiseach" Here's a hint it's not THEE SHOK
T-Shock? no - more like Ti Schach then?
@@kleinweichkleinweich Depends where you live in Ireland but Ti-Shoch is the closest
Mossie Gee Still, “Tee-Shock” is pretty acceptable.
@@vercoda9997 Sigh....no hard 'K' at the end that's the whole point
@@mossiegee4674 the 'ch' thing is easy -mach ich gern
It is not that difficult. Split up the UK, Wales independent, Northern Ireland independent , Scotland independent, England can leave, the other countries can decide for themselves.
Nope!
get it done
build that
house
The Guy on the right is Parker from thunderbird
As a linguist I might tell you that there is no such thing as a "game of semantics"... it's properly called misusing language. The terms in question have established definitions, using them otherwise is deceptive. The semantics can never be played with.
The poor guy on the left should go home and have a long sleep for a few days
Do you mean the other left?
Comments are way better than the actual video.
If Cameron cant make it. Boris will. What a legend!!!!....both of them...
Short and simple......NO!!
Why none of them mention the Hungary/Poland veto possibility?
Because it scares them
@@angrybrit7331 BECAUSE ITS NOT TRUE. MORE REMAINER SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
Now thats brexit fatique
@Amanda Hughes You already have freedom you are just too stupid to know what to do with it.