Guys just think..... These movies were made in a time where CGI and animations were still kind of making their way into the big screens..... And it still looks better than half the movies released the past few years with all the technology and everything. This trilogy will forever be great
Danny Bondy i just watched me Hobbits trilogy ! I think the whole movie was a bunch load of cgi but lord of the rings it was cgi but perfect didnt feel like they over did anywhere !
@@wannabe_D7000 Because they mostly used miniature to film stuff in LoTR and then add small amount of cg. Go watch Corridor Crews video on lotr. Those are amazing.
@@cokecan6169 I agree. But also LOTR was filmed 24 frames per second on actual film with more on location shots as well. Hobbit was filmed digitally. LOTR was just more tangible
I think it’s because they didn’t rely so heavily on cgi. They only really used it when they needed it. Unlike movies today where that’s all that they use
You can tell just how much heart and effort was put into this trilogy. “We had no interest in putting our messages into this movie. But we thought we should honor Tolkien by putting his message into It” -Peter Jackson, 2002 And this trilogy is still a masterpiece in 2024 :)
I feel like Frodo chose to leave for two reasons. 1) It’s heavily implied that his wounds inflicted by the Witch-king and Shelob could never be healed in Middle-earth and he would soon die from them. The fact that he was severely ill on the anniversaries of both these incidents (in the book) indicates that this was a pattern that, if he stayed in the Shire, would only get worse and worse until it would finally kill him within a few short years. Tol Eressëa, an island off the coast of Valinor where a mortal could safely reside, was the only place where he could find a lifesaving cure and heal. He could’ve chosen to stay, but if he had, he would’ve died after a short period, and his loved ones would’ve had to bury him. An ordeal he didn’t want to put them through. 2) Also, as Frodo says, Sam would be “torn in two” between Frodo and his family for as long as Frodo stayed in his life. In the book, Sam himself says more than once that he feels this way. Frodo didn’t want Sam to keep on giving up his own life to nurse him and take care of him. He wanted Sam to be able to give himself fully to Rosie and their children, and take care of the Shire like he wanted (which he eventually did by being Mayor of the Shire and serving as one of Aragorn’s Counsellors, alongside Merry and Pippin, for many decades.)
@@johnromero7492No, he's correct. Tolkien said it several times, both in the last book and in his many letters after publication. Frodo was stabbed early on by a Nazgul and that was the injury that stuck with him until he left Middle Earth. And I may be wrong about who, but I believe he talks with Gandalf about Sam and his inability to let go of being Frodo's protector. He was always worried Frodo would end up in trouble and sleep never came easily to him. Basically Frodo being present was giving Sam constant anxiety, likely due to residual shell schock (PTSD).
@@johnromero7492 how are you able to make a comment from 10 days ago sound about 15 years old, during peak dumbassery and bigotry on UA-cam? Grow a brain.
I think Sam had it just as bad watching Frodo go through all that and still finding the strength and courage to continue on even if he felt betrayed by Frodo. He still never gave up on Frodo and went back for him...honestly, if it was not for Sam the world would be corrupted.
Short answer: he didn't 'have' to leave, he was given the very great gift of being allowed to leave. Elves, in Tolkien's canon, are immortal unless killed by violence. They don't die of old age. But they can choose to leave the mortal world and go to a sort of 'afterlife' without having to die first. For Frodo and Bilbo to be offered this gift is the greatest possible honor, and one they both chose to accept.
bwuh this sounds all wrong. It's been years since I read the Silmarilion but iirc The Undying Lands was just a nickname for the birthplace of the Elves, Valinor (an island, or perhaps a continent, Tolkien is vague). The main tribe of the elves are exiled from Valinor for some sin or treachery that I forget, so they journey across the sea to Middle Earth. After thousands of years they defeat Morgoth (Sauron's master), and their exile is forgiven. The only elves remaining in Middle Earth by the time of the Hobbit are a tiny fraction of sentimental holdouts. tl;dr The Undying Lands are physical not ethereal, and simply distant and entry is forbidden to non-elves
@@WhompingWalrus I'm no Silmaril scholar, but I'd go with everything you said as being accurate. My gripe is how this video and others are claiming that only the dead can go to Valinor. It is a place with trees and cities, and elves drink wine and hunt deer and forge crafts. To get there requires boats and navigational skill. Whether the spirits of Men go there is interesting, I wonder if Tolkien states that as narrator in some book, or if a character states that as a belief only. As far as Gandalf's resurrection, he is of the same race as Sauron, whose body is slain several times but his spirit continues and rebuilds. So I imagine Gandalf's spirit did much the same, but went to Valinor to deliver news and consultation, then assisted by some Valar in hastening the process of returning to Middle Earth in physical form.
I always took The weird scene where everyone was laughing hysterical in that one room together is they all finally freaked out about how insane it was that they actually survived all the freakish things that took place.
I dont see why it's considered a weird scene. The hobbits are adults but still childlike, and Gandalf is like their step-in grandfather. Do they laugh weird? Well, they're hobbits, and hobbits are weird. The scene for me perfectly encapsulates the love the hobbits (and Gandalf) have for each other, and that they can still laugh with joy after everything that's happened. The scene also makes a nod to the beginning of the first movie, when Frodo is eagerly waiting for Gandalf and jumps him like a kid would his grandfather.
@@bartrien8468 although that's probably true about the character of hobbits being more "innocent" like and therefore more "childlike". It's still a kind of unusual scene that is so starkly different from the entire rest of the movie about how dark and dangerous everything is. It's out of place in ways while also can make some sort of sense. I can understand they would be excited that frodo survived but all of their over the top ecstatic faces just seem strange.
Frodo thought he had died at first. He was carried off by eagles in the sky and woke up in a white room glistening in the yellow sunlight. Then the first person he sees is Gandalf, all clad in white as well and looking angelic. Mind you, up to this point Frodo though Gandalf had died in Moria. He never saw him again until this moment. When they lock eyes again he firstly thinks he’s dead, then comes the realization he’s actually alive and Gandalf as well, so they burst into laughing over sheer joy and happiness that everything ended well.
This is how I feel reading about the battles between anor and angmar and reading about the history of Gondor ,their civil war and war with Umbar .there is just too much stuff and names to remember.
@@TheJRDProductions Please do not lump in Star Wars with this masterpiece. Original Star Wars film was ok, and maybe the books, but the dumpster fire movies that was made by Disney, I have no words... 😑
Bilbo is surprisingly someome worthy of recognition, he had the ring during 60 years, and barely fallen under his control, Smeagol fell completely and got corrupted, but Bilbo was even capable of leaving it behind with the advice of Gandalf. Again, a misseen achievement.
A very cool part in the book is during the Council meeting in Rivendell where Bilbo volunteers to take the Ring to Mordor, despite his old age. Everyone laughs at him except Frodo, Gandalf, Elrond and Gimli's father (Gloin?). I always found it a small but sweetly valiant moment to give him. Especially as we're later shown the depth of his corruption when he tries to attack Frodo for the Ring.
Smeagol got corrupted by the ring because he killed for it and was never able to give it up. Bilbo was so untouched by the ring because the ring chose to leave with him and he "broke up" with the ring like a toxic relationship when he parted. Gandalf mentions this in Moria when he said "it was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand" to Frodo.
Personally, I like how when he wakes up they all just laugh, I think them all bursting into laughter together helps amplify the fact that a mere hobbit actually succeeded at saving the world, and against all odds the fellowship has been reunited. It felt like how real friends would treat the situation. And then you get the cherry on top with the whole “you bow to no one” line, it felt like a great ending
@@virtualatheist thank you, that's what I thought. I do believe some Romans did that but those were the ones trying to emulate the greeks. But for the most part, I thought it was heavily frowned upon.
@@virtualatheist No, men having sex with men was the highest form of physical love according to the Greeks. They only married women to have babies, and once they got married they could never experience that 'true love' (gay sex) again.
Not cheesy, it is a beautiful ending. I imagine (according to the books) that change you see come over Frodo when he steps on the boat and smiles and looks young and healthy; that's actually what happens only once he arrived on the shores of the Undying Lands or, Valinor, where they were sailing to on those boats. Even so, it may very well have been something that would have taken time to happen even once he was there. He was going to Valinor to finally be healed of everything he had gone through and suffered. (and Bilbo too and all who go there.) Peter Jackson wanted the other hobbits to see him healed again (I assume) because of this touching moment it creates between them. Not sure how the boat healed him; I guess the boat had the Light of Aman in its sails? (lol) Kind of a weird change from the book, but oh well. It is a very good ending all the same! ☺
My favorite thing about Tolkien's work is that he approached everything as if he were a Middle Earth historian. He was not the creator of Middle Earth, he just simply told us everything he knew about it.
Exactly, when you follow the characters in Lotr you feel like you're there with them as another companion, learning clouded histories and legends. If he wrote from an all-knowing point of view it would lose all of the mystery and grittiness.
I really admire his creativity and sometimes I ask myself, How did he do that? How did he decide what his world looked like and then also just report on it like a historian?
Tbf, Lord of the rings and all that comes with it started nearly 90 years ago. :p Tolkien started the universe in the early 30's There are movies from the 70's too with some crack ass songs in them - but overall gives you the impression of a bad acid trip lol
I've always thought that Frodo's psychic wounds never healed. In the end, the One Ring possessed him. Only by leaving Middle Earth could he be freed of pain.
Sort of, but it was really the wounds from the morgul blade and the spider, along with the burden of being a ring-bearer. Nothing in middle earth could heal him, but salvation could be found in the undying lands.
Also did you know that Tolkien debated adding a tenth member to the Fellowship? Glorfindel, an Elf who defeated a Balrog in the First Age and who defeated and drove off the Nazgul at the river crossing before Rivendell. Tolkien however felt that adding him would have reduced a lot of the danger the Fellowship would have faced and subsequently not make for a good story.
Imo this is the main reason why I like the change of not having Glorfindel appear in the films. Logically he should 100% have been part of the fellowship so removing him from the story (but not from Canon altogether) makes sense as to explaining why he did not join. Making Arwen more prominent was cool too.
@@DanBeech-ht7sw Well, the elves can die and be reincarnated according to Tolkien. It gets a bit sticky with reoccuring Elvish names in different ages but I thought he died in the flight from Gondolin.
And he posessed the ring way longer. From Bilbo leaving after his 111th birthday to Frodo leaving the shire there are 17 years alone, if I remeber correct. In the movies it seems like 2 months or something.
Frodo and Bilbo went to the Grey Havens because that was the only place that they could receive the mental care needed for their condition. This was explained in the book.
Never give up, my new motto. I first read LotR in 1972. I too demanded someone tell me why Frodo had to leave middle earth. Why? I got nothing, even the librarians at my school were "Huh?"i After many re-reads, many re-watches of the movies it's only now that I get an answer that is sensible to me. I am much older and the concept of "unrelenting grief and pain" is one that I can empathize with now in a way that was impossible to my younger self Thank you.
I have taken a liking to Keep on keeping on. I am 23 years old and while I am very well off, I have gone through plenty of deaths, being caught in the crossfire of a brutal divorce ending up being the middle man for my parents as well as family drama further down the line and having to navigate a world that feels alien to me as I am Autistic. I do know that I am very inexperienced in life, and still have a lot to learn as I keep getting curve balls. War is hell and those who experiences it are at peace when they pass away. Frodo is traumatized by what he has gone through and his home is foreign to him after everything that has happened. So he leaves for the undying lands in hope of healing the damage the Burden of being the ring bearer has caused. I sense it is Tolkien putting a bit of himself into here as he is a WWI vet, his hope that while they (Bilbo and Frodo) wait for the final peace, they may find a way to deal with and/or heal the pain. Might be me reading a bit too much into it, but that is what I am getting out of it.
Personally I found it really reflected the people that Samwise and Frodo were and what they found important in life. Samwise was all about family, about how he loved the Shire and this normal life. Frodo was normal but also a son of Bilbo, and not really the most typical village-happy bumpkin. It made sense to me that he went to the Grey Havens, with Bilbo and the elves who took care of him and Gandalf who was a close friend and probably there early in his life (im not sure exactly). I feel like some people in the audience would be like HUHHH?? And some would feel exactly like Frodo, really relate to him on that level, I would, some people aren’t really about that call for normal village family life.
I've been playing The Misty Mountains Cold for my newborn a lot lately. So I guess you may have possibly thought about a LOTR word once (palantir, hobbitses, precious?) and TouTube figured you wanted more LOTR in your life.
The 3 questions Frodo had to answer in Mordor: 1) What is your name? 2) What is your quest? and 3) What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
I remember reading the books back then and thinking to myself: there is no way in hell, that Frodo can return to the Shire and live a happy live. He has seen and endured to much, to return to a little village full of farmers, that know nothing about the journey and what has happened, nor would they understand.
What Frodo went through was a walk in the park compared to many, many real life war stories. I kindof wondered, if a soldier from the battle of the Somme in WW1 went to hell, did he shrug his shoulders and say "i've seen worse"... you may fear to walk through hell but many have done just that... As for what Frodo endured, pfffttt, give me a break.
@@mystikmind2005 thats such a bullshit answer ^^ "in another completely unrelated circumstance, other people have endured more, so this suffering does not count"... man, if you don't like Tolkien, don't read or watch it ^^
I've always thought that Frodo chose to leave rather than having to. He was emotionally, mentally and physically wasted...the quest did cost his life, and he understood that after some time, so I think it was amazing that the elves recognized his sacrifice and took him with them to Valinor to be at peace.
Put another way, Frodo was given an opportunity to heal fully and at length; to come to be whole again among the elves of immortal Eressea, toward whom he had a natural affinity, and with Bilbo, whom he loved most of all, and presumably to choose the time of his final derparture free from sorrow and hurt and darkness, along with Bilbo. It's an end both tragic and fantastical, the only right ending, though supremely painful at that moment of separation; that moment where bitter tears may become the very wine of blessedness.
@@christinemeleg4535 no, Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings to be the sequel to The Hobbit. He didn't make LotR to be an allegory, Tolkien did not like allegory. What actually is happening here is that some of his experiences have seeped into his work and that it has real life applicability, that's all.
In regards to the "odd" scene when Frodo wakes up and sees Gandalf, he doesn't know Gandalf has returned. He thought he died in the mines of Moria! It fits perfect:D
Ehm, Frodo was stabbed by the witchking Angmar on Weathertop. This all happened before he woke up in Rivendell and the fellowship traveled to the mines of Moria. He and Sam were supposed to meet Gandalf at the Prancing Pony in Bree, but Gandalf was temporarily imprisoned by Saruman at Orthanc. At least that's how it went in the movies.
@@vendettamedianl you’re getting it mixed up with the first visit to Rivendell, after destroying the ring the eagles take him and Sam back there where they would still assume Gandalf is dead until Frodo sees him again here. That’s why Gandalf is wearing white and not his old grey robes. It’s different in the books, they stay in Gondor for ages and only pass Rivendell on the way back to the shire.
Merry's sword was forged by the ancient Men of Westernesse, and specifically crafted to damage Ringwraiths. So, when he stabbed The Witch-King of Angmar, unbeknownst to him, it broke the incantation that made it invulnerable and allowed Eowyn's sword thrust to kill it.
I thought it was one of the swords forged in Gondolin during the First Age and therefore it's enchantments were strong enough to break the invulnerability spell on the Witch King. I'll have to go do some more reading.
Here's an answer to your question regarding how the Witch King of Angmar was killed: No mortal weapon can kill them, as they are Wraiths. Normal weapons would shatter against them and harm the wielder. But Merry there did not have a normal weapon. He had a dagger forged in Arthedain, which was originally part of Arnor. Arnor was the old human kingdom in the North, and they were destroyed by the forces of Angmar, led by the Witch King of Angmar. That dagger was specially crafted and enchanted to pierce the defenses his ring of power gave him and kill him. Since the Witch King was even more powerful by this point in the book, the Dagger didn't protect Merry fully from the shock of striking the Witch King, and it didn't kill the Witch King. What it did, however, was temporarily strip him of his power and briefly turn him back into his mortal self. Deprived of his Wraith status, Eowyn was able to finish him off with a stab through the head.
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One thing that sticks out to me about Bilbo and Frodo leaving Middle Earth, particularly Frodo. I consider everything that happened to him, namely the pain from the wound of the morgul blade, I took it as evil not being completely destroyed after the War of the Ring, as if some evil still lingered afterwards. The evil that was bound to middle earth was bound to Frodo, so he couldn’t remain and only the undying lands was his chance to heal. Bilbo also fits into this, even after the ring is destroyed he still wanted to see it one last time even though it was destroyed, it showed that the ring still had influence even if not physically present, and we have to wonder if Frodo misses the ring as well.
In the books Frodo was like a war veteran who suffered from PTSD. He could never find peace, not even in the shire. So he left with Gandalf and Bilbo to a place where he could finally suffer no more.
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I always thought that Frodo didn't have to leave, but it was offered to him by the elves as a reward for suffering the ring for so long and receiving several magical injuries in the process. I'm not 100% sure that's correct, though
Galadrial was actually banned from the undying lands because she took part in the exodus away from there when the Noldor first left in rebellion when the silmarils were stolen. She is still bound to the oath of Feanor from a few thousand years ago, which forsakes the undying lands in the name of vengance against Morgoth, Sauron's original master. She only gets to return to valinor at the end because she assisted the fellowship and let the ring pass through her lands without taking possession of it. In a way, she needed the temptation of the ring to happen, so that she could reject it to redeem herself. She was released from her oath by god (illuvatar) and is no longer sentenced to remain in middle earth indefinitely to suffer its strife. When she says "I passed the test, I will go into the west and fade from this world", this is what she is referring to.
More or less true, but Galadriel didn't take the oath of Feanor. Only he and his seven sons did. (And the oath was about getting the silmarils back, not about vengeance against Morgoth.)
@@Starcos I believe this is correct. Galadriel wanted to see the lands of middle earth and to have a kingdom of her own. This is what drove her away from Valinor.
Frodo didn't 'have' to leave; he was given a choice. He chose... wisely. It was basically the equivalent of Michael the Archangel saying "Hey, thanks for helping kill the Devil. As a prize, you get to go to heaven, no questions asked, only you have to go right now."
Well, he did, according to the lore. He lived a bit longer on Middle Earth, then went on the ship with the White Council. He and Bilbo were granted leave to go, not to the Undying Lands, but one of the islands off the coast, where the Teleri dwelt at Tol Eressea, and where Frodo would be healed of his wounds and eventually die in peace. Details on Bilbo's death are less sure, but it is said that eventually both he and Frodo died. Incidently both Gimli and Legolas are also alleged to have taken a boat, as did Sam. It's assumed Sam lived like Frodo and Bilbo, and Legolas went to dwell with the other elves (which is curious as he is probably half-Dark Elf). Gimli's fate is utterly unknown.
ElladanKenet I think it's safe to say that they all died eventually and that the world moved on regardless. I mean isn't that one of the background themes of Tolkein's work? the death and rebirth of the old world into the new?
There's an important aspect of Middle Earth you only kind of touched on. To make it explicit: the world is getting less and less magical all the time. All the wonder and horror is fading: no new Ents, the last dragon goes belly up ... magic is fading. That's why the elves leave. Their fire is guttering. The main function of all the rings is to protect and preserve whatever the wearer loves. The 3 elf rings are the reason the elves still hold some mega-magic. Dwarves love money, and they got money ... didn't work out. Men love power above all else. You get the idea. Part of the reason the Hobbits are resistant is because they love good beer and full bellies. If you just crave breakfast, the ring's got trouble twisting you into world conquest. The 'soul twisting' aspect is separate from the 'preserve what you love' aspect. ALL rings of power persevere what you love. MOST of them will turn you evil. And Sauron developed the 'ring of power' template; he can hack any ring because he's so familiar with the technology. He knows about the exhaust port.
One hobbit descendant got his hands on a ring of power, and founded IHOP. Breakfast three times a day, for maximum happiness. And those large portion sizes, yum.
+CokeOr Pepsi Remember the book? Even San Gamgee for the short (no pun intended, really) time he was a Ringbearer was tempted to become "Samwise of the Ages" the most famous gardener the world has ever seen. He had a vision of a domain of beautiful growing things covering Middle-Earth that would give nightmares to the staunchest Greenpeace member!
The entire trilogy is a tear-jerker. Frodo saving Sam from drowning and Sam tells him he promised to look after him, Boromir calling Aragorn his king before dying, Sam talking about him and Frodo being included in tales, Theóden grieving the loss of his son, Gandalf telling Pippin about the White Shores, Frodo hugging his friends goodbye and giving Sam the book, and the majority of Howard Shore's music
Tolkein fought in World War 1. He understood the horror war inflicts, and the deep scars it leaves on the survivors, as well as the nigh unbreakable bonds it forms between men fighting for their lives together, and was able to put that on paper. He also hated the industrialization of the world, the tearing down of green places to make way for smoke belching monstrosities in the name of "progress" (coal was being used extremely heavily at the time) which is why his idealized society was The Shire, an agrarian society where everyone was content to just live with no aspirations of power, mostly in tune with nature, and the enemies in his books burned the trees and destroyed nature, covering the earth in darkness and destruction, emulating his experience in The Great War, where endless, weeks long artillery barrages turned verdant fields of green into muddy, cratered hellscapes.
Howard shore did Ayahuasca and had 3somes with african models all day all night is the only explanation for how he wrote a musical score so immaculate for this trilogy
My dad always told me that Frodo never did make it back alive when the eagles brought him to Rivendell and that what we saw was his final memories of being around friends and loved ones and getting to say goodbye then him leaving with Gandalf to the undying lands was a symbol of his death
I don’t know why everyone laughs at the bed scene. It’s the first time we see Frodo genuinely happy since the beginning of the first movie and where all of the Fellowship minus Boromir can be together again now that it’s all over. It’s especially heartbreaking when you see almost every single smile Frodo gives later on completely fade after he gives them because he’s so broken from his experiences.
I do love the happiness of it but it's the slow motion "gandalf?" And the way he laughs like Santa "ho ho ho " 🤣 its super cheesy compared to the rest of the film
That slow motion laugh was a bit cringe-y. All things considered, this movie came out 18 years as of this date (2003) so offering critique seems past due. All that to say, my two cents. I feel a “callback” joke may have been a less awkward option. Frodo wakes up, with initial surprise (since he last saw Gandalf fall into the chasm with the Balrog and had no idea he still lived) Frodo: -Gandalf?? Gandalf: [Rushes to Frodo’s beckon with concern] Frodo: [After pause] …You’re late. *Genuine laughter*
Sauron was still weakened at that point, so I believe the influence the ring had on Bilbo was lesser than it was for Frodo who carried the ring when Sauron had regained much of his power, but for less time (though still many years).
In the books, Gandalf says Bilbo needed all his "help" to refuse the Ring. He couldn't have done it if Gandalf wasn't standing there. And Elrond might not have let Bilbo into Riverndell if he were still carrying it.
Tbh after reading the book, I always thought Frodo left mainly because he felt like Middle Earth didn't have much of a place for him anymore, after (spoilers if you didn't read the book) Merry and Pippin were praised more than him upon their return, he saved the shire and got to watch it blossom on its own, and then sam got married and had his own family/got on with his life. Thats what i felt, anyway. its really sad if im honest.
See, this is what I love most about LotR. Despite being in the fantasy genre, a lot of it is pretty realistic, especially the psychological stuff. There is no way for a story as tragic as LotR to have a truly happy ending where everyone lives happily ever after. As Frodo says, some wounds never heal completely, and he definitely didn't only mean his stabwound with that.
Apparently, that's one of the reasons Tolkien never finished the sequel to Lord of the Rings. It would end up too depressing and way too real, losing the feeling of his previous works. The world would be dominated by humans, they'd forget and become apathetic to the struggles and wars that were fought in the past. They'd eventually grow complacent and let evil grow, then let it take control again. Whatever shape that evil would take, we don't know, but that was the general idea he had according to notes and letters.
Grenada is yelled so ur allies know, so grenade and catapult Yelling a sword name is like yelling sa80 lol I did the British standard rifle cause Tolkien is British also I am so works anyway
I mean ur wrong still if u heard Grenada or ur Allie said it u would just get down helmet towards the explosive, A battle cry is different from saying I have sword😂 And also why did u mention a car?
Just so uno grenade is not said like that like I explained I’ll give another example so u don’t need to reply RPG: ur enemy will say that if there setting a RPG up or sm1 needs it, So then ur Allie would say RPG 12oclock or whatever so then u know u Need to get to cover Not a battle cry 😂
Yes but I was right then u said I was wrong meaning u should of just never said anything Ur fault for not being able to say ur wrong without me needing to clearly prove it and also added insults
Never again will there be an author as dedicated to creating an entire world; an entire history, as Tolkien. Incredible books and peter jackson actually did really well with the movie adaptations of the lord of the rings.
My favorite tale/story is when he wanted to wage war on Poseidon so he ordered his soldiers to go out and start stabbing the ocean. I mean come on. Poseidon knows that a damn sword or spear isnt going to do a damn thing.
HA !! Now that IS priceless ! Actually kind of as a similar continuation of an old WarCraft 3 joke, every time that someone mentions 'the darkness' Darkness(a sentient being in my game world) might.. just.. HEAR & FIND you... O_O ua-cam.com/video/ASpVcByUMj0/v-deo.html
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3:51(In the movie) They didn't use the ghosts against Mordor because Aragorn was an honorable man and kept his word to release them once they helped defend Minas Tirith. 4:01The Night King can't be killed normally, Merri stabs him with a special dagger made specifically to kill undead creatures which then made it possible for Eowyn to kill him. If he hadn't of stabbed him with the dagger Eowyn would have had the same reaction to stabbing the Night King that Merri had. The "no man can kill me" line isn't a reference to something inherent about the Night King, but rather that his prophesized fate was that "no man will kill him" to which was spun to "no man can kill him". Anyone could kill him, they just needed the right equipment. As the prophecy said it wasn't man that had it, but a hobbit and then finally killed by a woman; although the word "man" in the context of middle earth usually refers to "mankind or human". I don't think the movies ever go into the dagger Merri has, but it's explained in the books.
Yeah, generally correct the blades were Barrow Blades in the book given by Tom Bombadil but in the film I think they where gifted by Galadriel. The daggers were made to combat the Wrights in Arnor I think it was and its able to hurt the Witch King of Angmar.
The witch king seemed pretty confident in that prophecy when going into that battle, taunting Eowyn and shit, and when she reveals that she is a woman he shuts up and "was silent, as if in sudden doubt" (direct quote from the book). I don't think anyone could kill him with the right equipment. I don't understand why people like to criticize this moment specifically, I think it's such a powerful one. I think its genious how the word man is usually used in the books for humans, and so the witch king probably thought he was safe whenever fighting humans, but when suddenly confronted by a woman (which seems incredibly rare in the books, for a woman to go to war) he was struck with doubt and falls silent.
@@LLDJover Well, you know, what can we say? Quite frankly my dear even the most cultured man must admit to some surprise in finding out...THEYRE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD! Do you not agree?
Watched this again after 6 years. I love how deep yet subtle "Grief" is written into LOTR. The tale have a happy ending, or is it? The world is saved, but much of what is fair will leave; the elves, the entwives, the influence of the valar. The Ring was destroyed, but not by Frodo, and even if Frodo survived, he was so wounded and traumatized that when he goes home, it doesn't feel like home anymore. LOTR is a tragedy, just with a happy ending, it is still a tragedy, because grief does not become better just because it ended good. A wound does not become less painful just because it heals in the end.
Such is war. Remember Tolkien developed middle earth in the trenches of WWI. Imagine coming home after that war. Imagine all those who didn’t come home. Add into that the industrialization and you have insight into Tolkien’s influences.
I think this was Tolkien's worldview, he survived the ”war to end all wars" just see another world war barely a decade later. He saw industrialization destroy the beauty of his country. I think he realiz d the universe spins toward madness and chaos, not away from it.
He was stabbed by one of the Wraiths and never fully recovered. He was, essentially, slow dying from the wound. Passing into the 'new world' is like passing over into the Afterlife. That's what he was doing rather than be consumed by the 'poison' that he was infected with.
It was literally the afterlife. The Gods created it to literally be Heaven on Earth; anyone and everyone who arrives becomes immortal, and happy forever.
But to add to what your'e saying..yes he was passing into the afterlife but in leaving in departure with the gandalf, he also was being "healed" at the same time. if you look closely at the scene you can even start to see the transformantion in him feeling better and healing at the same time. that's why he smiled happily and never looked back it showed instantly in his face how he felt immediatley. He left to die but it was by his choice alone that was best for him.
*laugh my ass totally off* see? THAT'S the part I didn't understand. I was really stoned when I watched this, so when that happened, I was like "What the hell"?
This was a nice little refresher video for stuff that was different in the books/movies. I just finished my 6 month long journey of reading The Lord of the Rings so this was a good watch
Whenever I think about Frodo's injury, it makes me think that it was a representation of Tolkien's trauma from surviving WWI. Frodo & Bilbo's departure to the grey havens was emblematic of his acceptance of what had transpired & his forgiveness of himself for surviving. With Sam(wise), Merry, & Pippin being emblematic of returning from darkness in order to carry on with a life of love, friendship, & family.
@@pamelah6431 "Soldier says his PTSD has nothing to do with the war, or his PTSD" is common for a reason buddy. Tolkien would literally have to be a piece of metal to not have his work heavily influenced by his time in war, and the world around him. If you come at me saying Lembas bread isn't Hardtack I'm throwing hands.
@@DamienDarkside I'm coming at you, lembas ain't no Hardtack mate. Cram, made by the men of the lake and Dale, is. Same thing as Lembas, but no flavor and much tougher. Lembas actually do have flavor and tastes good.
@@unputocalvo So it's Elven Hardtack over Dale Hardtack. That's still Hardtack with a slightly different recipe, which happened in real life too. You also literally agreed it still does literally the EXACT same thing as the other but simply doesn't taste as bad. Your words, not mine. The elves also were said to use a special "corn" but it was most likely a different type of wheat. It's just flakier and lighter than Cram. Gimli thought it was Cram for a reason until he tasted it, and it isn't because it looks like a cupcake. Dale Cram, Elven Lembas, and Earth Hardtack are the same core base. Flour, Water, Salt, then add other things for the region. You know the saying about roses and smelling sweet and all of that. Thanks for agreeing with me, and proving my point even further.
As crazy as this sounds i always related it to combat stress and not being able to return to society after living that life for so long. I think a lot of combat vets dealing with PTSD get this.
B1gB3ar Br0wn that’s 100% correct. That’s why Aragorn did not follow the hobbits back to the shire. They had to return back to normal life and act like nothing happened. JRR Tolkien was a WW1 veteran, and writing these books we’re his way of coping with his own ptsd. That’s why it’s so similar.
I always saw it as PTSD, or Shell-Shock as Tolkien would have known it. Frodo's wounds and weariness never healed. He didn't "HAVE" to go to Valinor, but he couldn't go back to normal Shire-life either. The movie more or less say as much.
Mycroft Holmes true, but OP said “A universe with three female characters.” Ent Wives canonically exist within the LOTR universe and therefore are female characters even if only referred to indirectly
Frodo leaves Middle-earth because his journey and his experiences being a ring bearer had essentially caused him to lose his innocence. The Shire represents that innocence and when he says the Shire hasn't been saved for him, he's basically saying that things aren't right anymore for him. Which is an idea mentioned by Sam in his monologue to Frodo in the second book, which his Osgiliath speech in the second film is loosely based on. Also similar to the change Bilbo felt after returning from his journey.
+Jacob Rice Also remember that J.R.R.'s experiences as a WWI veteran definitely influenced him. "It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: some one has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them." If that isn't a soliloquy regarding sacrifice in conflict for the greater good, I don't know what is.
What do you mean "he lost his innocence"? I know he was kinda mean some times, but I cant recall him actually doing something terrible, heck I dont remember him even killing in self defense
+red toasti Innocence, as in "an innocent, carefree outlook on the world". He saw way too much darkness, death and destruction to ever be the same man again, happy with just watching over his house and farm in the Shire.
This is amazing. Couple random thoughts that I doubt anyone who's reading this far doesn't already know: Saruman taking over the Shire and the three younger hobbits leading the people to overthrow him was the grand culmination of them growing up from these excited but powerless kids into capable, confident leaders who show others how to overcom their fears, it's really beautiful actually. Also, the (book version of the) sword that Merry stabs the Witch-King with was a blade from the Barrowdowns, specifically enchanted to overcome the Witch-King's own magic, which is what opened him up to being stabbed to death by a mortal woman, fulfilling the prophecy that no man could (would) slay him. But almost none of that was in the movies infortunately.
I always thought possessing The Ring must've been like having a full-blown addiction to some rare drug that only Sauron could provide. Even after withdrawal, your mind and body will never be as it was before.
It's very similar. The Ring is designed so that anyone who has it, WANTS to keep it and use it. This is for a few reasons: 1, this makes it impossible to destroy on purpose. It is literally impossible to throw it into Mount Doom on purpose; it's too strong. That's why Gollum NEEDED to survive, so he could accidentally fall in. 2, anyone who wears the Ring for too long without taking it off will become a Nazgûl, and willingly surrender the Ring back to Sauron. Due to the fact that it exists only to be used, it has a draining effect on you. Just by being near it, it slowly destroys your very soul (and those who experience this describe it like being "worn down, and feeling thin"). Wearing it massively increases the speed it does this. The Ring is able to feed your addiction to it, by replacing what it takes from your soul, with Sauron's darkness. So after he was banished, Frodo suddenly became aware of how he was basically a walking corpse anyway. The Ring causes greed and depression in literally everything it does, which makes it very drug-like.
Drugie" Ring? Addictive? I got this son. Stay away from drugs. I can resist for a little longer than you. For awhile anyway. Let's go to the lava beds"...
As for why the nazgul tried to turn Frodo into a wraith, it's actually entirely possible the nazgul weren't permitted to carry the one ring directly. It might be a weird way for them to free themselves from Sauron's will.
they did not try to turn him... they tried to kill him. and the ring tried to break his will in order to force him delivering the ring to sauron. fighting against that is what has broken him.
Guys just think..... These movies were made in a time where CGI and animations were still kind of making their way into the big screens..... And it still looks better than half the movies released the past few years with all the technology and everything. This trilogy will forever be great
Danny Bondy i just watched me Hobbits trilogy ! I think the whole movie was a bunch load of cgi but lord of the rings it was cgi but perfect didnt feel like they over did anywhere !
@@wannabe_D7000 Because they mostly used miniature to film stuff in LoTR and then add small amount of cg. Go watch Corridor Crews video on lotr. Those are amazing.
Because real props absolutely shit on cgi. However real you make it look, as long as its not real to the actors in the moment, it's going to hurt.
@@cokecan6169 I agree. But also LOTR was filmed 24 frames per second on actual film with more on location shots as well. Hobbit was filmed digitally. LOTR was just more tangible
I think it’s because they didn’t rely so heavily on cgi. They only really used it when they needed it. Unlike movies today where that’s all that they use
Frodo left Middle Earth for tax reasons on advice from his Elvish accountant,
so Elves are like Jews?
No that was Joseph and Mary
Mikael Persson yes; his accountant was Elladan Abramavich, CPA.
_Next year, in The Undying Lands!_
@@rodrigoribeiromichalzechen5091 Kek
bLackstar dwarves are orthodox, Elves are reformed. There is much debate over the Ancient Runes.
You can tell just how much heart and effort was put into this trilogy. “We had no interest in putting our messages into this movie. But we thought we should honor Tolkien by putting his message into It”
-Peter Jackson, 2002
And this trilogy is still a masterpiece in 2024 :)
exactly the opposite of what they are trying to do nowadays with his books
@@Pixeliarmus 😭😭 exactly
@@Pixeliarmus what do you mean? doesnt make black dwarfs sense that live under the surface of earth? /s
💀
Hope Amazon had this mentality
I feel like Frodo chose to leave for two reasons.
1) It’s heavily implied that his wounds inflicted by the Witch-king and Shelob could never be healed in Middle-earth and he would soon die from them. The fact that he was severely ill on the anniversaries of both these incidents (in the book) indicates that this was a pattern that, if he stayed in the Shire, would only get worse and worse until it would finally kill him within a few short years. Tol Eressëa, an island off the coast of Valinor where a mortal could safely reside, was the only place where he could find a lifesaving cure and heal. He could’ve chosen to stay, but if he had, he would’ve died after a short period, and his loved ones would’ve had to bury him. An ordeal he didn’t want to put them through.
2) Also, as Frodo says, Sam would be “torn in two” between Frodo and his family for as long as Frodo stayed in his life. In the book, Sam himself says more than once that he feels this way. Frodo didn’t want Sam to keep on giving up his own life to nurse him and take care of him. He wanted Sam to be able to give himself fully to Rosie and their children, and take care of the Shire like he wanted (which he eventually did by being Mayor of the Shire and serving as one of Aragorn’s Counsellors, alongside Merry and Pippin, for many decades.)
bro that’s awesome but how did you know that
Dude I think uve watched Brokeback mountain way too many times.
me & you mom made a movie called broke back mountain. she wasnt the star of the show but she made good filler.@@johnromero7492
@@johnromero7492No, he's correct. Tolkien said it several times, both in the last book and in his many letters after publication. Frodo was stabbed early on by a Nazgul and that was the injury that stuck with him until he left Middle Earth. And I may be wrong about who, but I believe he talks with Gandalf about Sam and his inability to let go of being Frodo's protector. He was always worried Frodo would end up in trouble and sleep never came easily to him. Basically Frodo being present was giving Sam constant anxiety, likely due to residual shell schock (PTSD).
@@johnromero7492 how are you able to make a comment from 10 days ago sound about 15 years old, during peak dumbassery and bigotry on UA-cam? Grow a brain.
Basically he had ptsd and couldn't return to his normal life.
I think Sam had it just as bad watching Frodo go through all that and still finding the strength and courage to continue on even if he felt betrayed by Frodo. He still never gave up on Frodo and went back for him...honestly, if it was not for Sam the world would be corrupted.
Which movie is it? When frodo leaves the middle earth?
Yeah simple as fuck
@3MM4 P33L Yeah, but AFTER he had the peaceful, cozy hobbit life that Frodo lost in all of this. That's a huge difference.
@@Beomgyu_islife The very last bit
Short answer: he didn't 'have' to leave, he was given the very great gift of being allowed to leave. Elves, in Tolkien's canon, are immortal unless killed by violence. They don't die of old age. But they can choose to leave the mortal world and go to a sort of 'afterlife' without having to die first. For Frodo and Bilbo to be offered this gift is the greatest possible honor, and one they both chose to accept.
Yeah i like your answer best
Frodo and Bilbo. ...and Sam. ...and Gimli. Soon enough the old elves'll be propping up a demagogue to shut that goddayum border already
bwuh this sounds all wrong. It's been years since I read the Silmarilion but iirc The Undying Lands was just a nickname for the birthplace of the Elves, Valinor (an island, or perhaps a continent, Tolkien is vague). The main tribe of the elves are exiled from Valinor for some sin or treachery that I forget, so they journey across the sea to Middle Earth. After thousands of years they defeat Morgoth (Sauron's master), and their exile is forgiven. The only elves remaining in Middle Earth by the time of the Hobbit are a tiny fraction of sentimental holdouts.
tl;dr The Undying Lands are physical not ethereal, and simply distant and entry is forbidden to non-elves
@@WhompingWalrus I'm no Silmaril scholar, but I'd go with everything you said as being accurate. My gripe is how this video and others are claiming that only the dead can go to Valinor. It is a place with trees and cities, and elves drink wine and hunt deer and forge crafts. To get there requires boats and navigational skill.
Whether the spirits of Men go there is interesting, I wonder if Tolkien states that as narrator in some book, or if a character states that as a belief only.
As far as Gandalf's resurrection, he is of the same race as Sauron, whose body is slain several times but his spirit continues and rebuilds. So I imagine Gandalf's spirit did much the same, but went to Valinor to deliver news and consultation, then assisted by some Valar in hastening the process of returning to Middle Earth in physical form.
Yes the undying lands are like the heaven of Middle Earth
I always took The weird scene where everyone was laughing hysterical in that one room together is they all finally freaked out about how insane it was that they actually survived all the freakish things that took place.
I dont see why it's considered a weird scene. The hobbits are adults but still childlike, and Gandalf is like their step-in grandfather. Do they laugh weird? Well, they're hobbits, and hobbits are weird. The scene for me perfectly encapsulates the love the hobbits (and Gandalf) have for each other, and that they can still laugh with joy after everything that's happened. The scene also makes a nod to the beginning of the first movie, when Frodo is eagerly waiting for Gandalf and jumps him like a kid would his grandfather.
@@bartrien8468 although that's probably true about the character of hobbits being more "innocent" like and therefore more "childlike". It's still a kind of unusual scene that is so starkly different from the entire rest of the movie about how dark and dangerous everything is. It's out of place in ways while also can make some sort of sense. I can understand they would be excited that frodo survived but all of their over the top ecstatic faces just seem strange.
Well, all but one of them.
You see your close mate wake up from such an ordeal and tell me you wont be acting like a fool
Frodo thought he had died at first. He was carried off by eagles in the sky and woke up in a white room glistening in the yellow sunlight. Then the first person he sees is Gandalf, all clad in white as well and looking angelic. Mind you, up to this point Frodo though Gandalf had died in Moria. He never saw him again until this moment. When they lock eyes again he firstly thinks he’s dead, then comes the realization he’s actually alive and Gandalf as well, so they burst into laughing over sheer joy and happiness that everything ended well.
Fun fact: When Sam says "We shouldn't be here..." in the Twin Towers he's technically right because they never go to Osgiliath in the novel.
What Osgiliath again?
@@marssnottheplanetThe Capital City of Gondor
@@marssnottheplanetit wa sthe capital of Gondor, before Minas Ithil fell and sauron attacked
The more I learn about Lord of the rings, the more I feel like I know nothing
That's what I love about these lore heavy series. The universes are huge, LOTR, Star Wars, Halo all have this
Okay Jon Snow settle down
Warhammer just quietly taking the throne on this one
This is how I feel reading about the battles between anor and angmar and reading about the history of Gondor ,their civil war and war with Umbar .there is just too much stuff and names to remember.
@@TheJRDProductions Please do not lump in Star Wars with this masterpiece. Original Star Wars film was ok, and maybe the books, but the dumpster fire movies that was made by Disney, I have no words... 😑
Frodo had to leave because he had leveled up and it would be uncomfortable to live around lower level players.
So that's where level 20 PC's go when the game is over...
He leveled up? Imma need the link
living with noobs you mean?
@@ptz6809 NO
So why sam didn't 😂 . He was braveir than frodo...
Bilbo is surprisingly someome worthy of recognition, he had the ring during 60 years, and barely fallen under his control, Smeagol fell completely and got corrupted, but Bilbo was even capable of leaving it behind with the advice of Gandalf. Again, a misseen achievement.
Although Sméagol had it for possibly 100s of years and he wasn’t completely corrupted there was still a very small part of him left.
A very cool part in the book is during the Council meeting in Rivendell where Bilbo volunteers to take the Ring to Mordor, despite his old age. Everyone laughs at him except Frodo, Gandalf, Elrond and Gimli's father (Gloin?).
I always found it a small but sweetly valiant moment to give him. Especially as we're later shown the depth of his corruption when he tries to attack Frodo for the Ring.
@@kyledunn3747smeagol had it for more than 500 years
but the ring corrupted him instantly@@kyledunn3747
Smeagol got corrupted by the ring because he killed for it and was never able to give it up. Bilbo was so untouched by the ring because the ring chose to leave with him and he "broke up" with the ring like a toxic relationship when he parted. Gandalf mentions this in Moria when he said "it was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand" to Frodo.
Personally, I like how when he wakes up they all just laugh, I think them all bursting into laughter together helps amplify the fact that a mere hobbit actually succeeded at saving the world, and against all odds the fellowship has been reunited. It felt like how real friends would treat the situation. And then you get the cherry on top with the whole “you bow to no one” line, it felt like a great ending
Frodo left middle earth with Gandalf to become Harry Potter and Dumbledore
wait I didn't expect this many likes omg tysm
angela YES OMG
Lmfao
Don't ever compare harry potter to lotr , Tolkien was a poet in his own lane harry potter doesn't even come close
Hagrids buttcrack 😳
@@goldenrule3264 no one is comparing but i agree with you
“Did you know that in ancient Roman culture it was okay too...”
Alright, keep your secrets.
Snuffleufugus sleep with young men
Snuffleufugus he was probably gonna say how old men were allowed to have intercourses with young boys as a “right of passage”
@@masteroogway8916 i thought that was mostly a greek thing
@@virtualatheist thank you, that's what I thought. I do believe some Romans did that but those were the ones trying to emulate the greeks.
But for the most part, I thought it was heavily frowned upon.
@@virtualatheist No, men having sex with men was the highest form of physical love according to the Greeks. They only married women to have babies, and once they got married they could never experience that 'true love' (gay sex) again.
I know this is a cheesy sentence, but that final scene gets me every time. Frodo's final smile just... it's such a beautiful ending. :')
Not cheesy, it is a beautiful ending. I imagine (according to the books) that change you see come over Frodo when he steps on the boat and smiles and looks young and healthy; that's actually what happens only once he arrived on the shores of the Undying Lands or, Valinor, where they were sailing to on those boats. Even so, it may very well have been something that would have taken time to happen even once he was there. He was going to Valinor to finally be healed of everything he had gone through and suffered. (and Bilbo too and all who go there.) Peter Jackson wanted the other hobbits to see him healed again (I assume) because of this touching moment it creates between them. Not sure how the boat healed him; I guess the boat had the Light of Aman in its sails? (lol) Kind of a weird change from the book, but oh well. It is a very good ending all the same! ☺
You need to be stronger. There’s no crying watching LofR’s
Sam totally smashed frodo. Type of smile
Super cheesy
@@xiSWIIFTixYup. Just what was called for 😊
after 20 years I watched the entire series again and it's by far my favorite series ever.
What an absolutely amazing journey.
My favorite thing about Tolkien's work is that he approached everything as if he were a Middle Earth historian. He was not the creator of Middle Earth, he just simply told us everything he knew about it.
Exactly, when you follow the characters in Lotr you feel like you're there with them as another companion, learning clouded histories and legends. If he wrote from an all-knowing point of view it would lose all of the mystery and grittiness.
That’s what I love about Brandon Sanderson’s books too. Very mysterious and the more research you do the more questions you have.
He didn't claim to be 100% accurate, claiming instead that he was merely reporting the tale as recorded in The Red Book of Westmarch.
I really admire his creativity and sometimes I ask myself, How did he do that? How did he decide what his world looked like and then also just report on it like a historian?
@@Tyler-2839 With language? :P
But yeah, the fellow was a genius!
So glad to have existed the same time as LOTR.
And star wars
Dude the 90s and early 2000s era was the best I'm glad i was born in that era
So glad to be from the same city as Tolkien, I literally live in the shire he wrote about 😁
😂😂😂😂😂👍
Tbf, Lord of the rings and all that comes with it started nearly 90 years ago. :p Tolkien started the universe in the early 30's
There are movies from the 70's too with some crack ass songs in them - but overall gives you the impression of a bad acid trip lol
I've always thought that Frodo's psychic wounds never healed. In the end, the One Ring possessed him. Only by leaving Middle Earth could he be freed of pain.
Sort of, but it was really the wounds from the morgul blade and the spider, along with the burden of being a ring-bearer. Nothing in middle earth could heal him, but salvation could be found in the undying lands.
Also did you know that Tolkien debated adding a tenth member to the Fellowship? Glorfindel, an Elf who defeated a Balrog in the First Age and who defeated and drove off the Nazgul at the river crossing before Rivendell. Tolkien however felt that adding him would have reduced a lot of the danger the Fellowship would have faced and subsequently not make for a good story.
he can be added to the fellowship in the old bbc-movie-based rpg game
Imo this is the main reason why I like the change of not having Glorfindel appear in the films. Logically he should 100% have been part of the fellowship so removing him from the story (but not from Canon altogether) makes sense as to explaining why he did not join. Making Arwen more prominent was cool too.
The Glorfindel of the 1st Age is not the same elf as the Glorfindel from Rivendell in TFOTR.
@@fueledbyloveapparently he was.
@@DanBeech-ht7sw Well, the elves can die and be reincarnated according to Tolkien. It gets a bit sticky with reoccuring Elvish names in different ages but I thought he died in the flight from Gondolin.
He was moving because of Aragorn’s
tax policy
Dimitrij Albul love this😂
Is this a reference to GRRM
alexm hmm no that wasn’t my intent😂 is it?
LMAO. You goofy
You're an awful person. We would probably get along.
Keep in mind that Frodo possessed the ring for 13 months, while Sauron was actively looking for it. It consumed alot of him
13, number of rebellion
And he posessed the ring way longer. From Bilbo leaving after his 111th birthday to Frodo leaving the shire there are 17 years alone, if I remeber correct. In the movies it seems like 2 months or something.
@@reen_oderso i mean he physically possessed it. In the books it was mostly hidden away for all those years
didn't he keep it for like 20 years in the book whilst gandalf was gone but the ring kept him young?
@@eliegbert8121 yeah, it did make him look Younger, but If I remember well, the Ring was kept like in Frodo's drawer for most of those 17 years
Frodo and Bilbo went to the Grey Havens because that was the only place that they could receive the mental care needed for their condition. This was explained in the book.
grey haven is the name of the port the ships depart from. it is not the goal...
Never give up, my new motto.
I first read LotR in 1972. I too demanded someone tell me why Frodo had to leave middle earth. Why? I got nothing, even the librarians at my school were "Huh?"i
After many re-reads, many re-watches of the movies it's only now that I get an answer that is sensible to me. I am much older and the concept of "unrelenting grief and pain" is one that I can empathize with now in a way that was impossible to my younger self
Thank you.
I think this pretty much answers the question in an incredible way.💕✨ I'm glad that you were able to understand it all by yourself.
I have taken a liking to Keep on keeping on. I am 23 years old and while I am very well off, I have gone through plenty of deaths, being caught in the crossfire of a brutal divorce ending up being the middle man for my parents as well as family drama further down the line and having to navigate a world that feels alien to me as I am Autistic. I do know that I am very inexperienced in life, and still have a lot to learn as I keep getting curve balls.
War is hell and those who experiences it are at peace when they pass away. Frodo is traumatized by what he has gone through and his home is foreign to him after everything that has happened. So he leaves for the undying lands in hope of healing the damage the Burden of being the ring bearer has caused. I sense it is Tolkien putting a bit of himself into here as he is a WWI vet, his hope that while they (Bilbo and Frodo) wait for the final peace, they may find a way to deal with and/or heal the pain. Might be me reading a bit too much into it, but that is what I am getting out of it.
Personally I found it really reflected the people that Samwise and Frodo were and what they found important in life. Samwise was all about family, about how he loved the Shire and this normal life. Frodo was normal but also a son of Bilbo, and not really the most typical village-happy bumpkin. It made sense to me that he went to the Grey Havens, with Bilbo and the elves who took care of him and Gandalf who was a close friend and probably there early in his life (im not sure exactly). I feel like some people in the audience would be like HUHHH?? And some would feel exactly like Frodo, really relate to him on that level, I would, some people aren’t really about that call for normal village family life.
aye, sadly i have reread the books since the 1980s - as i age and matured and begun to suffer i better understood Frodo
I, too, read the series in the early 1970s. In the 1980's "Frodo Lives" was scrawled everywhere.
Better question : why is this in my Recommendation after 5 years?
Who cares im gonna binge watch all 3 now
I’ve honestly been thinking this question for like 6 years but only remembered about it when I saw this video in my recommended
I've been playing The Misty Mountains Cold for my newborn a lot lately. So I guess you may have possibly thought about a LOTR word once (palantir, hobbitses, precious?) and TouTube figured you wanted more LOTR in your life.
same
Benjamin maybe because Siri heard me watching lord of the rings trilogy 🤔
The 3 questions Frodo had to answer in Mordor: 1) What is your name? 2) What is your quest? and 3) What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
African, or European?
@@jay-jose9952 AAAAAAWWWWW!
What’s your favorite color?
Hannah Bright Blue. No, yellow! AAAAAA-
What......is the capital of Assyria?
I remember reading the books back then and thinking to myself: there is no way in hell, that Frodo can return to the Shire and live a happy live. He has seen and endured to much, to return to a little village full of farmers, that know nothing about the journey and what has happened, nor would they understand.
Well, you could say the same for Sam and his two cousins, but I guess they weren't tempted, stabbed and bitten by a spider like frodo.
@@thetruthhurts599also Sam carried the weight of a friend, a loved one... yet never fully consciously the weight of the whole world
@@Buttons841 you sound like a person, that also thinks a drug addiction is just a bad habit ^^
What Frodo went through was a walk in the park compared to many, many real life war stories.
I kindof wondered, if a soldier from the battle of the Somme in WW1 went to hell, did he shrug his shoulders and say "i've seen worse"... you may fear to walk through hell but many have done just that... As for what Frodo endured, pfffttt, give me a break.
@@mystikmind2005 thats such a bullshit answer ^^ "in another completely unrelated circumstance, other people have endured more, so this suffering does not count"... man, if you don't like Tolkien, don't read or watch it ^^
The dagger that Merry stabbed the Witch King with was specifically enchanted to weaken him to the point he could be killed.
Yup it Barrow-blade he didn't read it properly left major role.
I've always thought that Frodo chose to leave rather than having to. He was emotionally, mentally and physically wasted...the quest did cost his life, and he understood that after some time, so I think it was amazing that the elves recognized his sacrifice and took him with them to Valinor to be at peace.
Put another way, Frodo was given an opportunity to heal fully and at length; to come to be whole again among the elves of immortal Eressea, toward whom he had a natural affinity, and with Bilbo, whom he loved most of all, and presumably to choose the time of his final derparture free from sorrow and hurt and darkness, along with Bilbo. It's an end both tragic and fantastical, the only right ending, though supremely painful at that moment of separation; that moment where bitter tears may become the very wine of blessedness.
How could he stay after all that?
It's like PTSD.
Exactly. Tolkien wrote The Lord of the Rings to illustrate what happens to humans during war and afterwards. He was a veteran of WWI
Yeah that's it exactly
@@christinemeleg4535 no, Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings to be the sequel to The Hobbit. He didn't make LotR to be an allegory, Tolkien did not like allegory. What actually is happening here is that some of his experiences have seeped into his work and that it has real life applicability, that's all.
In regards to the "odd" scene when Frodo wakes up and sees Gandalf, he doesn't know Gandalf has returned. He thought he died in the mines of Moria!
It fits perfect:D
It's possible Frodo believed he had died and gone to heaven and Gandalf was first person he saw there
They also had that laugh when he saw Gandalf coming down the rode in the first movie. I guess it’s their... thing lol
thats true didnt think of that .. good call
Ehm, Frodo was stabbed by the witchking Angmar on Weathertop. This all happened before he woke up in Rivendell and the fellowship traveled to the mines of Moria. He and Sam were supposed to meet Gandalf at the Prancing Pony in Bree, but Gandalf was temporarily imprisoned by Saruman at Orthanc. At least that's how it went in the movies.
@@vendettamedianl you’re getting it mixed up with the first visit to Rivendell, after destroying the ring the eagles take him and Sam back there where they would still assume Gandalf is dead until Frodo sees him again here. That’s why Gandalf is wearing white and not his old grey robes. It’s different in the books, they stay in Gondor for ages and only pass Rivendell on the way back to the shire.
This video was brilliantly put together.
Thank you.
This is really well done. Well edited, great pace- and really great comedy bits. My hat goes off to you mate! Cheers from New York USA
The ring's a dick and, like an actual dick, the ring can get bigger and smaller - best description of the One Ring yet devised :D
thanks for explaining
An erection doesn't need explaining you degenerate, i'm fairly certain at least 90% of the world understands an erection.
Suck it and see?
Directions unclear: Got Dick Cheney stuck in the ceiling fan.
It was really cockring? :)
Merry's sword was forged by the ancient Men of Westernesse, and specifically crafted to damage Ringwraiths. So, when he stabbed The Witch-King of Angmar, unbeknownst to him, it broke the incantation that made it invulnerable and allowed Eowyn's sword thrust to kill it.
Chick Sage thank you. Was literally gonna write this.
Damage against ring wraiths +2
Damn I need you to tell me all the lore and facts please, or send a link.
I thought it was one of the swords forged in Gondolin during the First Age and therefore it's enchantments were strong enough to break the invulnerability spell on the Witch King. I'll have to go do some more reading.
@@e.d.8952 I think you're referring to Glamdring, otherwise known as Foe-hammer, or maybe Sting?
I watched that movie countless times. Saw it in theaters and with friends at home..
And every time, i discover something new.
This was great mate, had me laughing my head off. Can tell your a fan but still able to find lots of funny perspective in it.
"The elves can get weary and die of depression"
Padme: Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary
"The leaf has clearly slowed your mind" Saruman talking negative about Cannabis? That fool
@@vipr1142 You underestimate my sadness.
That one character in literally every Shakespeare play: Hmm interesting...
that is how ewyn died after aragorn passed
Poe could kill sauron
Here's an answer to your question regarding how the Witch King of Angmar was killed:
No mortal weapon can kill them, as they are Wraiths. Normal weapons would shatter against them and harm the wielder. But Merry there did not have a normal weapon. He had a dagger forged in Arthedain, which was originally part of Arnor. Arnor was the old human kingdom in the North, and they were destroyed by the forces of Angmar, led by the Witch King of Angmar. That dagger was specially crafted and enchanted to pierce the defenses his ring of power gave him and kill him.
Since the Witch King was even more powerful by this point in the book, the Dagger didn't protect Merry fully from the shock of striking the Witch King, and it didn't kill the Witch King. What it did, however, was temporarily strip him of his power and briefly turn him back into his mortal self. Deprived of his Wraith status, Eowyn was able to finish him off with a stab through the head.
Wow that's actually very insightful. Thank you!
also you don't die from being stabbed in the calf.
Yep! They found those weapons when they got trapped in the Barrow Downs and Tom Bombadil has to rescue them
She got lucky
I really hope you see my comment cuz I need your help; I'm a big fan flash loyal servant of the witch-king of angmar. What are the chapters in the books that talk or feature him? I've of course seen him in the movies and heard people's video breakdowns on UA-cam but I want to read the passages for myself.
- side note- greetings fellow Sith, I'm known as Darth vindictive
One thing that sticks out to me about Bilbo and Frodo leaving Middle Earth, particularly Frodo. I consider everything that happened to him, namely the pain from the wound of the morgul blade, I took it as evil not being completely destroyed after the War of the Ring, as if some evil still lingered afterwards.
The evil that was bound to middle earth was bound to Frodo, so he couldn’t remain and only the undying lands was his chance to heal.
Bilbo also fits into this, even after the ring is destroyed he still wanted to see it one last time even though it was destroyed, it showed that the ring still had influence even if not physically present, and we have to wonder if Frodo misses the ring as well.
The beginning of your story is cracking me up. Love it
In the books Frodo was like a war veteran who suffered from PTSD. He could never find peace, not even in the shire. So he left with Gandalf and Bilbo to a place where he could finally suffer no more.
Yep, a mirror of Tolkien's post-war experience.
exactly
From here on out, orcs shall be known as "evil potatoes"
deal
Their fungi.
+FerrisAirsoft
*WE'Z NOT THE SAME SORT OF BOYS AS THESE GRETCHIN GITZ MADE FROM TOLKIEN.*
*_WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!_*
Right?! XD
*OI TARIK YOU GIT, DU BOSS WANTS YER ELP WIT SOMETING. TINK IS FAVOURITE GOBBO GONE GOT LOST, AND YOU KNOW HOW ANGRY HE GETS LAST TIME DAT GIT WENT MISSIN, ALF DU GITS IN DU CAMP GOT IT BY HIS CHOPPA*
The way you describe these LOTR answers. Is so much better than other channels thanks for keeping me interested!
I always thought that Frodo didn't have to leave, but it was offered to him by the elves as a reward for suffering the ring for so long and receiving several magical injuries in the process. I'm not 100% sure that's correct, though
Pretty much. They offered to take him to the place where his physical and mental scars would hurt him the least till he died.
"Look, elves!" *.*
"Look, hobbits!" *.*
Had me dying!
If I wasn’t already dying so fast me too
Sooooo funny 🤣🤣🤣
"Why can't we have both?"
Galadrial was actually banned from the undying lands because she took part in the exodus away from there when the Noldor first left in rebellion when the silmarils were stolen. She is still bound to the oath of Feanor from a few thousand years ago, which forsakes the undying lands in the name of vengance against Morgoth, Sauron's original master. She only gets to return to valinor at the end because she assisted the fellowship and let the ring pass through her lands without taking possession of it. In a way, she needed the temptation of the ring to happen, so that she could reject it to redeem herself. She was released from her oath by god (illuvatar) and is no longer sentenced to remain in middle earth indefinitely to suffer its strife. When she says "I passed the test, I will go into the west and fade from this world", this is what she is referring to.
Thank you so much for explaining that bit!
oh wow ok i didnt know that! Explains a lot.
Wow, thanks
More or less true, but Galadriel didn't take the oath of Feanor. Only he and his seven sons did. (And the oath was about getting the silmarils back, not about vengeance against Morgoth.)
@@Starcos I believe this is correct. Galadriel wanted to see the lands of middle earth and to have a kingdom of her own. This is what drove her away from Valinor.
Informative, and hilarious. Thank you!
This was a great video. And also hilarious. Well done
Frodo didn't 'have' to leave; he was given a choice. He chose... wisely.
It was basically the equivalent of Michael the Archangel saying "Hey, thanks for helping kill the Devil. As a prize, you get to go to heaven, no questions asked, only you have to go right now."
Well, he did, according to the lore.
He lived a bit longer on Middle Earth, then went on the ship with the White Council. He and Bilbo were granted leave to go, not to the Undying Lands, but one of the islands off the coast, where the Teleri dwelt at Tol Eressea, and where Frodo would be healed of his wounds and eventually die in peace.
Details on Bilbo's death are less sure, but it is said that eventually both he and Frodo died. Incidently both Gimli and Legolas are also alleged to have taken a boat, as did Sam. It's assumed Sam lived like Frodo and Bilbo, and Legolas went to dwell with the other elves (which is curious as he is probably half-Dark Elf). Gimli's fate is utterly unknown.
ElladanKenet I think it's safe to say that they all died eventually and that the world moved on regardless. I mean isn't that one of the background themes of Tolkein's work? the death and rebirth of the old world into the new?
Dark Elf...what...do you mean the Feanor elves?
That's because no-one cares about Gimili.....not even his mum.
@@ElladanKenet Gimli most likely went on a endless drinking spree.
the bed scene didnt feel weird for me. It made me feel happy to see frodo finally laughing and evryone laughing.
As a child, my dad shared a bed with his brother decades ago. People didn't seem to have dirty minds back then, I could be wrong in some cases.
I literally cried during the bed scene
I’ve cried in bed befo....the bed scene before 😥
Think that was the intention. It was the reunion of the fellowship.
Me too such a relief to see them comfortable clean and alive
Learned a lot from this. Makes sense now. Good job!
Some brilliant writing you did for this video.
There's an important aspect of Middle Earth you only kind of touched on. To make it explicit: the world is getting less and less magical all the time. All the wonder and horror is fading: no new Ents, the last dragon goes belly up ... magic is fading. That's why the elves leave. Their fire is guttering.
The main function of all the rings is to protect and preserve whatever the wearer loves. The 3 elf rings are the reason the elves still hold some mega-magic. Dwarves love money, and they got money ... didn't work out. Men love power above all else. You get the idea. Part of the reason the Hobbits are resistant is because they love good beer and full bellies. If you just crave breakfast, the ring's got trouble twisting you into world conquest.
The 'soul twisting' aspect is separate from the 'preserve what you love' aspect. ALL rings of power persevere what you love. MOST of them will turn you evil. And Sauron developed the 'ring of power' template; he can hack any ring because he's so familiar with the technology. He knows about the exhaust port.
One hobbit descendant got his hands on a ring of power, and founded IHOP. Breakfast three times a day, for maximum happiness. And those large portion sizes, yum.
what about elevensies and mid-day snack?
+CokeOr Pepsi Remember the book? Even San Gamgee for the short (no pun intended, really) time he was a Ringbearer was tempted to become "Samwise of the Ages" the most famous gardener the world has ever seen. He had a vision of a domain of beautiful growing things covering Middle-Earth that would give nightmares to the staunchest Greenpeace member!
Let us not forget their love of pipe weed which is never identified as tobacco
"I must have all the waffles in the world!!!" :P
The entire trilogy is a tear-jerker. Frodo saving Sam from drowning and Sam tells him he promised to look after him, Boromir calling Aragorn his king before dying, Sam talking about him and Frodo being included in tales, Theóden grieving the loss of his son, Gandalf telling Pippin about the White Shores, Frodo hugging his friends goodbye and giving Sam the book, and the majority of Howard Shore's music
Tolkein fought in World War 1. He understood the horror war inflicts, and the deep scars it leaves on the survivors, as well as the nigh unbreakable bonds it forms between men fighting for their lives together, and was able to put that on paper. He also hated the industrialization of the world, the tearing down of green places to make way for smoke belching monstrosities in the name of "progress" (coal was being used extremely heavily at the time) which is why his idealized society was The Shire, an agrarian society where everyone was content to just live with no aspirations of power, mostly in tune with nature, and the enemies in his books burned the trees and destroyed nature, covering the earth in darkness and destruction, emulating his experience in The Great War, where endless, weeks long artillery barrages turned verdant fields of green into muddy, cratered hellscapes.
Not to speak about the lack of second breakfasts for most of the adventure
@@bearwithmeasec2330 😭
@@cr4zyj4ck Well said !!
Howard shore did Ayahuasca and had 3somes with african models all day all night is the only explanation for how he wrote a musical score so immaculate for this trilogy
Really loved this video. Thank you
My dad always told me that Frodo never did make it back alive when the eagles brought him to Rivendell and that what we saw was his final memories of being around friends and loved ones and getting to say goodbye then him leaving with Gandalf to the undying lands was a symbol of his death
Interesting
I don’t know why everyone laughs at the bed scene. It’s the first time we see Frodo genuinely happy since the beginning of the first movie and where all of the Fellowship minus Boromir can be together again now that it’s all over.
It’s especially heartbreaking when you see almost every single smile Frodo gives later on completely fade after he gives them because he’s so broken from his experiences.
It's probably a mixture of the delivery/acting and cinematography.
i thought it was a beautiful coming together moment. the fellowship was reunited and their mission accomplished.
I do love the happiness of it but it's the slow motion "gandalf?" And the way he laughs like Santa "ho ho ho " 🤣 its super cheesy compared to the rest of the film
because it's pretty gay dude
That slow motion laugh was a bit cringe-y. All things considered, this movie came out 18 years as of this date (2003) so offering critique seems past due.
All that to say, my two cents. I feel a “callback” joke may have been a less awkward option. Frodo wakes up, with initial surprise (since he last saw Gandalf fall into the chasm with the Balrog and had no idea he still lived)
Frodo: -Gandalf??
Gandalf: [Rushes to Frodo’s beckon with concern]
Frodo: [After pause] …You’re late.
*Genuine laughter*
This really puts into perspective how immense Bilbo's mental strength was seeing how easily he gave up the ring
Sauron was still weakened at that point, so I believe the influence the ring had on Bilbo was lesser than it was for Frodo who carried the ring when Sauron had regained much of his power, but for less time (though still many years).
In the books, Gandalf says Bilbo needed all his "help" to refuse the Ring. He couldn't have done it if Gandalf wasn't standing there. And Elrond might not have let Bilbo into Riverndell if he were still carrying it.
After almost 60 years with the ring, any ability to let it go at all was amazing.
@@jeremyanderson3819 lol That's because the most Bilbo used the Ring for was avoiding the Sackville-Baggins.
*Emotional, since it tempts your heart and not your imagination or "mental strength."
Tbh after reading the book, I always thought Frodo left mainly because he felt like Middle Earth didn't have much of a place for him anymore, after (spoilers if you didn't read the book) Merry and Pippin were praised more than him upon their return, he saved the shire and got to watch it blossom on its own, and then sam got married and had his own family/got on with his life. Thats what i felt, anyway. its really sad if im honest.
I dunno. It is one of the best videos I have ever watched! I knew, basically all answers, but the way the author tells it. Bravo!
See, this is what I love most about LotR. Despite being in the fantasy genre, a lot of it is pretty realistic, especially the psychological stuff. There is no way for a story as tragic as LotR to have a truly happy ending where everyone lives happily ever after. As Frodo says, some wounds never heal completely, and he definitely didn't only mean his stabwound with that.
Makes sense, considering Tolkien fought in WWI.
I mean, I would consider going to elf heaven a happy ending my man lma9
Saddest thing is that you can never go back to who or what was or came before. Tolkien was a genius
@@SutekhChroma Agreed!
Apparently, that's one of the reasons Tolkien never finished the sequel to Lord of the Rings. It would end up too depressing and way too real, losing the feeling of his previous works. The world would be dominated by humans, they'd forget and become apathetic to the struggles and wars that were fought in the past. They'd eventually grow complacent and let evil grow, then let it take control again. Whatever shape that evil would take, we don't know, but that was the general idea he had according to notes and letters.
“THE SWORD THAT WAS BROKEN AND IS NOW REFORGED!” Yeah that was bound to be annoying in the movies if he did it as much as he did in the books.
Grenada is yelled so ur allies know, so grenade and catapult
Yelling a sword name is like yelling sa80 lol
I did the British standard rifle cause Tolkien is British also I am so works anyway
I mean ur wrong still if u heard Grenada or ur Allie said it u would just get down helmet towards the explosive,
A battle cry is different from saying I have sword😂
And also why did u mention a car?
Just so uno grenade is not said like that like I explained I’ll give another example so u don’t need to reply
RPG: ur enemy will say that if there setting a RPG up or sm1 needs it,
So then ur Allie would say RPG 12oclock or whatever so then u know u Need to get to cover
Not a battle cry 😂
Ur very dumb sos😂
Yes but I was right then u said I was wrong meaning u should of just never said anything
Ur fault for not being able to say ur wrong without me needing to clearly prove it and also added insults
I regularly come back to these videos. Really wish they would keep making them.
Lmao the editing / script is so funny
HAHA THE ARAGORN SWORD MONTAGE IS SO FUNNY
Never again will there be an author as dedicated to creating an entire world; an entire history, as Tolkien. Incredible books and peter jackson actually did really well with the movie adaptations of the lord of the rings.
I'd claim that George RR Martin is doing one hell of a good job.
Well you keep thinking that way and it'll be a self-fulfilling prophecy!
lets hope it is a self fulfilling prophecy
MrEntinen Why? Tolkien wanted to inspire not streamline.
because i brain farted. yeah yeah lets hope for more
Did you know that in Roman culture it was okay to *BUDUM BUUUUM BUDUM BUUUUUM BUDUM BUUUUUUM BUM BUM BUUUUUM BUUUM BUDUM BUUUM*
Well I was close. I was thinking of the time when they said the Emperor Caligula had married his horse... O_O
Caligua was absolutely bat shit crazy ;o
My favorite tale/story is when he wanted to wage war on Poseidon so he ordered his soldiers to go out and start stabbing the ocean. I mean come on. Poseidon knows that a damn sword or spear isnt going to do a damn thing.
HA !! Now that IS priceless !
Actually kind of as a similar continuation of an old WarCraft 3 joke, every time that someone mentions 'the darkness' Darkness(a sentient being in my game world) might.. just.. HEAR & FIND you... O_O
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I don't know. I mean there are some pretty NASTY beasties Poseidon could throw at them all along them beach warfronts...
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Late viewing your review, and I’m glad it was recommended.
Great narration! Loved it
3:51(In the movie) They didn't use the ghosts against Mordor because Aragorn was an honorable man and kept his word to release them once they helped defend Minas Tirith.
4:01The Night King can't be killed normally, Merri stabs him with a special dagger made specifically to kill undead creatures which then made it possible for Eowyn to kill him. If he hadn't of stabbed him with the dagger Eowyn would have had the same reaction to stabbing the Night King that Merri had. The "no man can kill me" line isn't a reference to something inherent about the Night King, but rather that his prophesized fate was that "no man will kill him" to which was spun to "no man can kill him". Anyone could kill him, they just needed the right equipment. As the prophecy said it wasn't man that had it, but a hobbit and then finally killed by a woman; although the word "man" in the context of middle earth usually refers to "mankind or human". I don't think the movies ever go into the dagger Merri has, but it's explained in the books.
Yeah, generally correct the blades were Barrow Blades in the book given by Tom Bombadil but in the film I
think they where gifted by Galadriel. The daggers were made to combat the Wrights in Arnor I think it was and its able to hurt the Witch King of Angmar.
The witch king seemed pretty confident in that prophecy when going into that battle, taunting Eowyn and shit, and when she reveals that she is a woman he shuts up and "was silent, as if in sudden doubt" (direct quote from the book).
I don't think anyone could kill him with the right equipment. I don't understand why people like to criticize this moment specifically, I think it's such a powerful one.
I think its genious how the word man is usually used in the books for humans, and so the witch king probably thought he was safe whenever fighting humans, but when suddenly confronted by a woman (which seems incredibly rare in the books, for a woman to go to war) he was struck with doubt and falls silent.
They don't go into it, but it is shown (I think in the extended edition) merry and pippin both getting magical daggers from lothlorien
@@gabrielwag a human AND a hobbit, which I believe wouldn't be considered a man, especially if dwarves aren't either
exactly, I was about to say the same thing.
THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD!
that just made my day...
Isengard.. i-i-sengard...
Gard-gard-gardgardgardgard
They're taking the Hobbits to Isengard?
@@LLDJover Well, you know, what can we say?
Quite frankly my dear even the most cultured man must admit to some surprise in finding out...THEYRE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD!
Do you not agree?
Hilarious editing ! Well done!
I almost spit out my coffee at the "what are midichlorians?" part XD
This was a fun watch. Thanks!
"the orcs have sex, their not dug out of the ground like evil potatos" best quote
Jordan Spring actually he is wrong orcs doesn't have sex they where elfs who had been corrupted by the first dark lord.
Moataz Alzhree cant they still have sex then?
And those weren't Orcs in the film; they were the Uruk Hai, which Saruman bred from Orcs and Mountain Men, I think..
Jwlhyfer de Winter I dont even want to think about that union, oh god.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Watched this again after 6 years. I love how deep yet subtle "Grief" is written into LOTR. The tale have a happy ending, or is it? The world is saved, but much of what is fair will leave; the elves, the entwives, the influence of the valar. The Ring was destroyed, but not by Frodo, and even if Frodo survived, he was so wounded and traumatized that when he goes home, it doesn't feel like home anymore. LOTR is a tragedy, just with a happy ending, it is still a tragedy, because grief does not become better just because it ended good. A wound does not become less painful just because it heals in the end.
Frodo gonna be undone when he explains how he came by a missing finger, and how teh One Ring was destroyed, and the catering bill arrives.
Such is war. Remember Tolkien developed middle earth in the trenches of WWI. Imagine coming home after that war. Imagine all those who didn’t come home. Add into that the industrialization and you have insight into Tolkien’s influences.
Sauron burnt the Entwives alive.. They didn't just leave 😔
I think this was Tolkien's worldview, he survived the ”war to end all wars" just see another world war barely a decade later. He saw industrialization destroy the beauty of his country. I think he realiz d the universe spins toward madness and chaos, not away from it.
Beautifully written by you, my deepest thanks.
Wow! great video, i'm glad i finally laid eyes upon it...😁👍
Thanks for posting this,I laughed my ass off! Very funny!
He was stabbed by one of the Wraiths and never fully recovered. He was, essentially, slow dying from the wound. Passing into the 'new world' is like passing over into the Afterlife. That's what he was doing rather than be consumed by the 'poison' that he was infected with.
It was literally the afterlife.
The Gods created it to literally be Heaven on Earth; anyone and everyone who arrives becomes immortal, and happy forever.
And Shelob herself is the daughter of an Alien Demon.
But to add to what your'e saying..yes he was passing into the afterlife but in leaving in departure with the gandalf, he also was being "healed" at the same time. if you look closely at the scene you can even start to see the transformantion in him feeling better and healing at the same time. that's why he smiled happily and never looked back it showed instantly in his face how he felt immediatley. He left to die but it was by his choice alone that was best for him.
@KyodaiKen1979 stabbed*
@@Alizudo No, only elves are immortal. Frodo went there to heal his wounds but probably died before Legolas and Gimli traveled there.
The ending is amazing
"Did you know that in ancient Roman culture it was okay to--" BLARING LOTR THEME
I WANNA KNOW!!
*laugh my ass totally off* see? THAT'S the part I didn't understand. I was really stoned when I watched this, so when that happened, I was like "What the hell"?
Honestly, I want to know but I have a feeling that what he was gonna say wasn't pleasant. The Romans weren't really all that good either so..
Absolutely love your humor!
This was a nice little refresher video for stuff that was different in the books/movies. I just finished my 6 month long journey of reading The Lord of the Rings so this was a good watch
Whenever I think about Frodo's injury, it makes me think that it was a representation of Tolkien's trauma from surviving WWI. Frodo & Bilbo's departure to the grey havens was emblematic of his acceptance of what had transpired & his forgiveness of himself for surviving. With Sam(wise), Merry, & Pippin being emblematic of returning from darkness in order to carry on with a life of love, friendship, & family.
Except Tolkien said it has basically nothing to do with the war.
@@pamelah6431 "Soldier says his PTSD has nothing to do with the war, or his PTSD" is common for a reason buddy. Tolkien would literally have to be a piece of metal to not have his work heavily influenced by his time in war, and the world around him.
If you come at me saying Lembas bread isn't Hardtack I'm throwing hands.
@@DamienDarkside I'm coming at you, lembas ain't no Hardtack mate. Cram, made by the men of the lake and Dale, is. Same thing as Lembas, but no flavor and much tougher. Lembas actually do have flavor and tastes good.
@@unputocalvo So it's Elven Hardtack over Dale Hardtack. That's still Hardtack with a slightly different recipe, which happened in real life too. You also literally agreed it still does literally the EXACT same thing as the other but simply doesn't taste as bad. Your words, not mine.
The elves also were said to use a special "corn" but it was most likely a different type of wheat. It's just flakier and lighter than Cram. Gimli thought it was Cram for a reason until he tasted it, and it isn't because it looks like a cupcake.
Dale Cram, Elven Lembas, and Earth Hardtack are the same core base. Flour, Water, Salt, then add other things for the region. You know the saying about roses and smelling sweet and all of that.
Thanks for agreeing with me, and proving my point even further.
@@DamienDarkside Dude, take a walk outside and chill. It was a fucking joke, what the hell are you getting mad about.
okay i burst out laughing when the music turned up on real history
we're not talking about romans touching little boys
@@tamonk9054 what about greeks?
@@TheHuntersjr on mondays and thursdays maybe
That was a magic viewing experience. Thank you
Good thing u spoke very fast. With this much content shared, it could be another possible trilogy.
He is fleeing of rising rent, inflation and rising food prices.
Lmaooooo
There is a rent in The Shire?
As crazy as this sounds i always related it to combat stress and not being able to return to society after living that life for so long. I think a lot of combat vets dealing with PTSD get this.
B1gB3ar Br0wn that’s 100% correct. That’s why Aragorn did not follow the hobbits back to the shire. They had to return back to normal life and act like nothing happened. JRR Tolkien was a WW1 veteran, and writing these books we’re his way of coping with his own ptsd. That’s why it’s so similar.
I always saw it as PTSD, or Shell-Shock as Tolkien would have known it. Frodo's wounds and weariness never healed. He didn't "HAVE" to go to Valinor, but he couldn't go back to normal Shire-life either. The movie more or less say as much.
I always thought that he left in case evil rose again and were gonna hunt him down
Tolkien was a WW1 veteran, he fought at the Battle of the Somme.
He would have known PTSD.
BrokenCurtain PTSD was not a recognized diagnosis until roughly 1980. Tolkien never heard the term.
Your editing is on point my dude.(just seen this was 7 years ago)
Lol! This was great. Made me chuckle 😅
“A universe with three female characters” OP forgot Shelob
And Baccador
And the ent wives! 🥺
But ent wives didn't appear, they were just metioned
Mycroft Holmes true, but OP said “A universe with three female characters.” Ent Wives canonically exist within the LOTR universe and therefore are female characters even if only referred to indirectly
I don’t wanna be rude but Juno ur so ugly omg 😂😂
Frodo leaves Middle-earth because his journey and his experiences being a ring bearer had essentially caused him to lose his innocence. The Shire represents that innocence and when he says the Shire hasn't been saved for him, he's basically saying that things aren't right anymore for him. Which is an idea mentioned by Sam in his monologue to Frodo in the second book, which his Osgiliath speech in the second film is loosely based on. Also similar to the change Bilbo felt after returning from his journey.
+Jacob Rice
Also remember that J.R.R.'s experiences as a WWI veteran definitely influenced him. "It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: some one has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them." If that isn't a soliloquy regarding sacrifice in conflict for the greater good, I don't know what is.
What do you mean "he lost his innocence"? I know he was kinda mean some times, but I cant recall him actually doing something terrible, heck I dont remember him even killing in self defense
+red toasti Innocence, as in "an innocent, carefree outlook on the world". He saw way too much darkness, death and destruction to ever be the same man again, happy with just watching over his house and farm in the Shire.
+red toasti He lost it when he had sex with female orc in movie 2 (extended edition) ... u must have watched "normal-short" version
+Jacob Rice OP
This is amazing. Couple random thoughts that I doubt anyone who's reading this far doesn't already know: Saruman taking over the Shire and the three younger hobbits leading the people to overthrow him was the grand culmination of them growing up from these excited but powerless kids into capable, confident leaders who show others how to overcom their fears, it's really beautiful actually. Also, the (book version of the) sword that Merry stabs the Witch-King with was a blade from the Barrowdowns, specifically enchanted to overcome the Witch-King's own magic, which is what opened him up to being stabbed to death by a mortal woman, fulfilling the prophecy that no man could (would) slay him. But almost none of that was in the movies infortunately.
Making one of the better feminist messages I've ever heard at the expense of a bit of lore. I think both versions do pretty good.
@@bayardkyyako7427 eh.
@@Khunark Well sorry you can't appreciate it
Good job mate on this
Because "leaving Middle Earth" is a more gentle way of saying "he died".
c g that could be true
Poetic form of saying everybody committed mass suicide
This makes so much sense.
It's also like how the elves and wizards and magic leave/destroyed/end, so that the world feels more like our world.
No, all ring bearers go to the undying lands to live out their lives
I always thought possessing The Ring must've been like having a full-blown addiction to some rare drug that only Sauron could provide. Even after withdrawal, your mind and body will never be as it was before.
It's very similar.
The Ring is designed so that anyone who has it, WANTS to keep it and use it. This is for a few reasons:
1, this makes it impossible to destroy on purpose. It is literally impossible to throw it into Mount Doom on purpose; it's too strong. That's why Gollum NEEDED to survive, so he could accidentally fall in.
2, anyone who wears the Ring for too long without taking it off will become a Nazgûl, and willingly surrender the Ring back to Sauron.
Due to the fact that it exists only to be used, it has a draining effect on you. Just by being near it, it slowly destroys your very soul (and those who experience this describe it like being "worn down, and feeling thin"). Wearing it massively increases the speed it does this. The Ring is able to feed your addiction to it, by replacing what it takes from your soul, with Sauron's darkness. So after he was banished, Frodo suddenly became aware of how he was basically a walking corpse anyway. The Ring causes greed and depression in literally everything it does, which makes it very drug-like.
The one ring is fentinal
Drugie" Ring? Addictive? I got this son. Stay away from drugs. I can resist for a little longer than you. For awhile anyway. Let's go to the lava beds"...
moral of the story: don’t do drugs, kids
@@Alizudo So Sauron was a member of the Orange Lantern Corps?
This is one of the greatest videos I am yet to see on UA-cam
Great editing !
"Like an actual dick, the ring can get bigger and smaller"
You are a master wordsmith my friend.
"Master's my friend"
"You don't have any friends"
That hurt me on an emotional level.
"That hurt me on an emotional level." is like saying, it watered me at a moisture level.
Gollum was obviously schizophrenic
".... nobody likes you"
I just finished the trilogy today and it was amazing went straight away to find this explanation thank you!!!
As for why the nazgul tried to turn Frodo into a wraith, it's actually entirely possible the nazgul weren't permitted to carry the one ring directly. It might be a weird way for them to free themselves from Sauron's will.
they did not try to turn him... they tried to kill him. and the ring tried to break his will in order to force him delivering the ring to sauron. fighting against that is what has broken him.