JESUS CHRIST THIS GENTLEMAN STORY ARE OVER THE TOP!!!! MY GOD 87 YEARS OLD WITH THIS DETAIL LIFE STORY IS AMAZING GOD BLESS THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Daniel Enberg from BoxRec wrote, *"In the old days divers could yield good results making a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably."* Little light heavyweight Ted Lowry had a career 73 wins 68 losses with zero physical and mental defects yet he's almost 90. It's not that complicated to figure out people. Little Rocky's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's.
Daniel Enberg from BoxRec wrote, *"In the old days divers could yield good results making a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably."* Little light heavyweight Ted Lowry had a career 73 wins 68 losses with zero physical and mental defects yet he's almost 90. It's not that complicated to figure out people. Little Rocky's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's.
in the 70’s they had the overweight, undertrained and overrated fat boys that had no endurance. Rocky bulled Ali around and hurt him in their sparring match and would have done the same in a fight. Marciano was the greatest fighter that ever lived and he turned every boxing match into a fight! Don’t be jealous of greatness. All your fat boys lost.
Great interview. Mr. Lowry is a very articulate man; you'd never say he fought the tough opponents he faced in the ring. What a privilege to see and hear an interview with someone who fought greats like Marciano and Moore. To have gone the distance with both of them is a great accomplishment. What a time for a boxing fan to be alive.
All the sportswriters and fans in attendance said Ted Lowry beat Marciano their 1st fight. The books below discuss Lowry beating Marciano: 1. Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times - by Russell Sullivan 2. Tiger Ted Lowry by the Tale - by Robert Mladinich 3. Remembering Ted Lowry, A Piece Of The Rock And War Hero - by Lennie Grimaldi 4. The Providence Journal - by Michael J. Thomas wrote, "Marciano did not win the fight. This reporter gave it to Lowry, six rounds to four.”
@@janswart9800 "I think Lowry would have gone the distance if we had fought a hundred times. I could never get used to his style of fighting." - Rocky Marciano
Unbeaten is the story of an immigrant son who chased the American dream in the middle of the 20th Century *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.* Rocky Marciano’s story unfolds in the back alleys of New England and the musty gyms of New York in the years after World War 2. He moved through a romantic era of guys and dolls, hustlers and gamblers, crusty trainers and sleazy managers, glamorous celebrities and notorious mobsters. What I knew about the undefeated 184 lb cruiserweight champ before I read the book 'Unbeaten' was that he quit during his prime right before he would have had to face the likes of Cleveland Williams, Floyd Patterson and Sonny Liston just to name a few. I did not know about his conduct during World War 2 that got him locked for two years for felony assault and robbery. Nor did i realize that his list of opponents while he was champ were of dubious quality, boxers who were on the way down like Louis and Walcott. Light heavyweight Moore was 41 if not older and light heavyweight Charles had Lou Gehrig's disease. For the last decade of his life Marciano wandered America, disillusioned, untrusting, hiding his money, cheating on his wife, consorting with the mobsters and loansharking. He hung around with Frank Sinatra and a number of "made guys." Marciano was not a good businessperson and was lousy with investing and saving money. He left his family penniless. Again his boxing record is offset by the low level of his opponents. He died relatively young in a plane crash due to his complete and utter disregard of intentionally flying during horrible weather conditions inorder to collect money.
Daniel Enberg from BoxRec wrote, *"In the old days divers could yield good results making a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably."* Little light heavyweight Ted Lowry had a career 73 wins 68 losses with zero physical and mental defects yet he's almost 90. It's not that complicated to figure out people. Little Rocky's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's.
Louis bravely fought *(17)* years...........little Rocky only *7* years Walcott bravely fought *(23)* years.......little Rocky only *7* years Charles bravely fought *(20)* years.......little Rocky only *7* years Moore bravely fought *(27)* years.........little Rocky only *7* years Savold bravely fought *(19)* years........little Rocky only *7* years Matthews bravely fought *(19)* years...little Rocky only *7* years LaStarza bravely fought *(14)* years.....little Rocky only *7* years Cockell bravely fought *(10)* years.......little Rocky only *7* years Lowry bravely fought *(16)* years.........little Rocky only *7* years 1946 *(Rocky's amateur bouts)* 1. April 15, 1946 Henry Lester *(L-DQ3)* 2. August 23, Frederic L. Ross KO-1 3. August 23, Richard Jarvis KO-1 4. August 23, Joe DeAngelis *(Loss-3)* 1947 5. January 17, Jim Connolly KO 1 6. Jan 17, Bob Girard *(Loss-3)* *1947-03-17 PROFESSIONAL Lee Epperson fights Amateur Rocky Mack aka Rocky Marciano. Then Rocky goes back to the amateurs Jan, Feb, and March in 1948.* 1948 *(Rocky goes back to the amateurs)* 7. Jan 26, Joe Sidlaskis KO-1 8. February Charlie Mortimer KO-3 9. February George McInnis TKO-1 10. March 1, Coley Wallace *(Loss-3)* 11. March Fred Fischera KO 12. March George McGinnis W-3 *1948-07-12 (Rocky goes back to pro) Professional Harry Bilazarian fights Rocky Marciano.. Don Cuoco and Don Cogswell just started legal proceedings to remove the Rocky Mack fight vs. Lee Epperson because once Pro you cannot go back to the amateurs.* Louis fought *(69)* times.............little Rocky quit at *49* Walcott fought *(70)* times.........little Rocky quit at *49* Charles fought *(121)* times.......little Rocky quit at *49* Moore fought *(220)* times.........little Rocky quit at *49* Savold fought *(142)* times.........little Rocky quit at *49* Matthews fought *(103)* times...little Rocky quit at *49* LaStarza fought *(66)* times.......little Rocky quit at *49* Cockell fought *(81)* times..........little Rocky quit at *49* Lowry fought *(150)* times..........little Rocky quit at *49* Layne fought *(70)* times............little Rocky quit at *49* Charles Lost *(25)* times and was KOd *(7)* times Moore Lost *(23)* times and was KO'd *(7)* times Walcott Lost *(20)* times and was KOd *(6)* times Savold Lost *(43)* times and was KO'd *(12)* times Lowry Lost *(68)* times and was KO'd *(3)* times Cockell Lost *(14)* times and was KO'd *(9)* times LaStarza Lost *(9)* times and was KO'd *(2)* times Layne Lost *(17)* times and was KO'd *(6)* times *Shocking isn't it? We never see these stats bcz they're always suppressed. Today's Genuine Super Heavyweights Miller Zhang Bakole Joshua Fury Ruiz Parker Kabayel Itauma Jalolov Dubois only have a combined (15) losses yet they're already being thrown under the bus for eternity but it's perfectly fine for little Rocky's little opponents to have a combined ((753)) losses!!!* *HOW MANY LOSSES DID THE "'BEST"' HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME HAVE:* Lewis --------- *2* Holmes ------ *6* Ali -------------- *5* Vitali ----------- *2* Foreman ---- *5* Tyson -------- *6* Wladimir ---- *5* Bowe --------- *1* Liston -------- *4* Louis --------- *3* Holyfield -- *10* Frazier ------- *4* Norton ------- *7* Tunney ------ *1* Dempsey --- *6* Johnson --- *11* *"SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES"* -- Lennox Lewis
In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, "Rocky would run 6-7 miles a day," his uncle Charlie Piccento said, "he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one."
Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said, "after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning."
Joe Louis is widely regarded as one of the greatest and most influential boxers of all time. He reigned as the world heavyweight champion from 1937 until his temporary retirement in 1949. He was victorious in 25 consecutive title defenses, a record for all weight classes. Louis had the longest single reign as champion of any boxer in history. Marciano could only dream of defending the title 25 times like Joe Louis did much less come back for more at age 37.
Due to Joe Louis not having the punch to bother Marciano, Joe was never in the fight. Louis was devoid of everything in his offensive arsenal. Joe’s speed and power were just a memory. His accuracy and timing were long gone and his reflexes were no longer instinctive. Joe had nothing left to neutralize Rocky. Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, Marciano was just entering his prime....Prime for prime it’s an entirely different story. Marciano would have had to deal with Louis’s explosive and hard jab, set-up uppercuts, finishing hooks and right hands. Rocky would have carried the fight to Joe, and instead of meeting him at center ring and trading, Louis would have inched back and countered Marciano and looked to fight him on the inside with his back to the ropes. Louis needed little room to punch and could get off in tight quarters, he would have been able to punch inside and beat Marciano's round punches to the mark all night.
Mr Lowery sounds and looks fantastic, at 87!! I would have thought he was 15 years younger. Ted made it to 90. I hope, God willing, to keep in shape and sound as good and I've never a boxer. God Bless you Mr. Lowery and thank you for your service.
Marciano would break a payphone clean off the wall just to retrieve his 10 cents even though he had 30K in his pocket. He was half a bubble off plumb with severe obsessive-compulsive personality disorder *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.*
During his retirement speech, and during his appearance on the Ed Sullivan show Rocky said, *"I want to spend more time with my family."* Instead, he immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands and left them penniless, *@ THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Aug 23, 1993*
His name should have been Classy Tiger Ted, what a gentleman, God Bless him. During the interview I closed my eyes and it reminded me of listening to my grandfather, the greatest generation of Americans.
Terrific report Bob, Chris. Tiger Ted Lowry is a genuine TOUGH guy, yet truly sweet, humble, and LOVEABLE. Ya gotta love the way he gives his wife the credit she's due. Good man. Thanks.
Carmine Vingo's *F-LEVEL* opponents: *1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* *2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* *3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* *4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* *5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL and Vingo LOSES!!!* *6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* *7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* *8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* *9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* *11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* *12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* *14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL* *16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* *(Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought ((4)) opponents TWICE within 16 bouts)* *17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL* *(Vingo actually fights this 0-0-0 debuting amateur just before facing Rocky!!!)* *18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses. Rocky said, *"It so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* - Rocky @ The Marciano Tapes #6 Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."* So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo's hand. I was always mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old 6' 4' 220 lb Superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight Champion of the World but in reality he was a 6' 0 188 lb *F-LEVEL-BUM* that was set-up for slaughter!!! *Both LaStarza and Marciano's resumes are practically identical to Vingo's!!! Marciano's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's. Don't believe? Then do the research on Rocky's opponents one at a time. It's easy to do. Start at the bottom (BoxRec) with Rocky's first opponent Lee Epperson and slowly work towards the top. Just push on Lee Epperson' name and it'll automatically take you to Lee Epperson' entire career. See what's happening folks is the Marciano family is controlling everything said about Rocky at both Wikipedia and BoxRec. But all that's about to change! It's all gonna go back to it's original format from 10 to 15 years ago because I SAVED EVERYTHING!!!*
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which has been used for decades: Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL* Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL* Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL* James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL* Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL* Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL* Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL* Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL* Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.* Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.* Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.* Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?* Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much! Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf. Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Walcott's losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins!!! The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time!!! And (4) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!!! Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D. Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 38/39 if not older, Moore 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Even Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward a proven boxing genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight *"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
*187 lb low-power LaStarza was 37-0 before he met 184 lb tiny cruiser Marciano who was 25-0. Below is LaStarza' resume, the absolute worst 37-0 in boxing history:* *37)* Cesar Brion career record 49 wins 11 losses *C-LEVEL* looks okay until you see how many of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians. Walter Hafer career record 22 wins 26 losses *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Jackie Lyons career record 32 wins 24 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Carollo career record 36 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Bill Weinberg career record 44 wins 22 losses *D-LEVEL* Gene Gosney career record 14 wins 5 losses *D-LEVEL* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Mike Jacobs career record 14 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Mel McKinney career record 8 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL* Teddy Georges career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Oscar Goode career record 43 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL* Tony Gangemi career record 21 wins 18 losses *F-LEVEL* Benny Rusk career record 20 wins 17 losses *F-LEVEL* Fred McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* John Holloway career record 2 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL* Claude McClintock career record 1 win 9 losses *F-LEVEL* Steve King career record 21 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy White career record 9 wins 17 losses *F-LEVEL* Frankie Reed career record 2 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL* Mike Belluscio career record 15 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL* Luther McMillan career record 13 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Matt Mincy career 0 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL* Lorne McCarthy career record 2 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans career record 18 wins 8 losses *D-LEVEL* Matt Mincy career record 0 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL* Zeke Brown career record 0 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL* Jim Johnson career record 3 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Dodd career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Al Zappala career record 20 wins 27 losses *F-LEVEL* Zack Johnson career record 3 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL* Dave Glanton career record 1 win 13 losses *F-LEVEL* *"Although LaStarza had a long winning streak at the beginning of his career, there are no tough names on his record. He refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Clarence Henry, Bob Baker, Harold Johnson, Pompey, Lloyd Marshall, Oakland Billy Smith, Curtis 'Hatchetman' Sheppard etc. Lost and avenged to overstuffed light heavy Dan Bucceroni and to light heavy Rocky Jones and looked terrible against Jones in the rematch. The Jones win and a victory over the faded Rex Layne gave him the credentials to meet Rocky for the title. Look at LaStarza's record there are no names on it except for Marciano. I have the complete film of the Jones rematch and believe me LaStarza looked terrible. I am not saying that LaStarza was a coward but he (or, excuse me, his management) refused matches with Henry, Charles, Baker, and Moore etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much, saying he wouldn't take those matches because he "deserved" a rematch with Marciano and thought he was offered the other matches by the IBC only because they were trying to knock him out of "his rightful shot at Marciano." Boo Hoo Hoo. Real, confident fighters go out and prove they deserve their shot by beating dangerous fighters to force a showdown with a champion."* -- Chuck Hasson Boxing Historian and Philly Boxing Founder
Due to Joe Louis not having the punch to bother Marciano, Joe was never in the fight. Louis was devoid of everything in his offensive arsenal. Joe’s speed and power were just a memory. His accuracy and timing were long gone and his reflexes were no longer instinctive. Joe had nothing left to neutralize Rocky. Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, Marciano was just entering his prime....Prime for prime it’s an entirely different story. Marciano would have had to deal with Louis’s explosive and hard jab, set-up uppercuts, finishing hooks and right hands. Rocky would have carried the fight to Joe, and instead of meeting him at center ring and trading, Louis would have inched back and countered Marciano and looked to fight him on the inside with his back to the ropes. Louis needed little room to punch and could get off in tight quarters, he would have been able to punch inside and beat Marciano's round punches to the mark all night.
Joe Louis was buried in Arlington National cemetery with full military honors. Joe was a hero unlike Rocky who was dishonorably discharged for felony assault and robbery.
Rocky Marciano's legacy is not that he was just undefeated, but how he was undefeated. He overcame cuts, knockdowns, trailing late in fights, and more. His will is unquestioned. When you look at the greatest Heavyweights to ever reign over the most prestigious title in all of sports, the greats are near-mythical figures that would give everything to win, men that had an indomitable spirit to go along with skill. When you think of guys like that, you think of Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, Holyfield and yes, Rocky Marciano, who undoubtedly etched his name among them. So let the revisionist run their mouths about how he was too short, how he was just a brawler, how his competition was weak etc. In the end, no other Heavyweight champion has ever retired undefeated and I doubt anyone else ever will. The one-man that did it is always standing and his name is Rocky Marciano!
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
Revisionists? As in a man who literally fought marciano and moore saying what rational boxing fans saying (he fought past their prime greats and wore them down in long fights) ?? Thats not revisionism thats reality without the rose tints on
The International Boxing Club Of New York had links to organized crime; most notably through Italian Mafia soldier Frankie Carbo, the most powerful promoter in boxing. *“Carbo,”* Russell Sullivan explains, *“established a well-organized centralized system of control over boxing. The system featured scores of managers who operated as front men for Carbo. Once a promising fighter arrived on the scene, one of Carbo’s managers would muscle in on his ownership. Fear and violence were the linchpins of Carbo’s system and the bedrock of his power. Directly or indirectly, he controlled scores of judges, officials, managers, promoters, and fighters. His power became such that no big match was made or title awarded without his acquiescence. Both Walcott and Charles had mobbed managers, Walcott one Nick Bocchicchio and Charles a pair named Tom Tennas and Jacob Mintz. You did as they told you and you got the matches that you needed to advance into contender ranks."*
Undefeated. Unbeatable. The greatest, ever. That was Rocky Marciano (1923-1969), the only Heavyweight in boxing history who ended his career with no defeats: 49 fights won, including 43 by knockout. Rocky bludgeoned every top Heavyweight of his era before leaving professional boxing in 1956.
In Undefeated: Rocky Marciano - The Fighter Who Refused to Lose By Everett Skehan, it is documented that Rocky refused to take phone calls in camp. He didn’t want radios, (It was before the widespread use of television) or newspapers, or discussions about anything except boxing and training. He had no contact with his family or anyone in the outside world. He was there solely to train from before sunup to after sunset. Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning. In camp, he would run in the morning, and fast walk another 10 miles at night. He also did wind sprints during the day. He liked to run short distances, a couple of hundred yards, up a hill in training as fast as he could, and then run back down facing backwards. And then he repeated over and over until he was exhausted. He used a speed bag but not like anyone else does or did, he would hit it with hooks and slow power shots to work on his accuracy. He trained using a custom made 300 pound heavy bag. He would power clean a giant rock and toss it forward with both hands (the rock weighed over a hundred pounds). He did crunches that combined kicking a heavy medicine ball out to the trainer He believed in calisthenics, and did up to several hours worth in addition to everything else. Several days a week Rocky went shoulder deep in a swimming pool and threw hundreds of underwater punches for up to an hour. And then, in the late afternoon, Rocky would spar. Rocky literally trained every day from before sunup, to after sundown. So he could do 15 rounds. No science based training today could match Rocky’s old time regimen for intensity, or his old time trainer, Charlie Goldman for knowledge. There isn’t a trainer today capable of taking Rocky Marciano and making him undisputed champion. There is a price for that toughness and peerless conditioning. Rocky had to train year round, and he trained in between fights harder than most fighters train in camp. Rocky said after the Lester amateur fight: "I will never be outworked again.” And he wasn’t. Rocky Marciano summed up his philosophy simply: “Greatness is getting up when you go down, and keeping on when you think you can’t. Greatness is winning when nobody thinks you will, or fighting on when you know you are going to lose, but you can’t give up.” And that will, that ferocious desire to win, those hours, days, months, 8 straight years of training every day, is what made Rocky Marciano a Champion when he was always smaller, usually slower, and with less reach.
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton that was because he was carefully managed and retired at 32, much younger than other greats. Actually, the biggest names on Rocky's resume are all over the age of 32. Just a fact!
William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness and some numbness in his limbs as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
*"The Heavyweight version of Charles,”* Dettloff sums up, *“would get a lot of good work done. But on the best day of his life, he was no more a Heavyweight than Ray Robinson. He never would be as good there as he was at light heavy and below.”* -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015 *"Ezzard was intentionally ducked by champions in both the middleweight and light heavyweight divisions. As a result, Charles was forced into the 175 lb Heavyweight division despite never being a true Heavyweight."* -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015 *"Charles lost the title to Walcott in 1951. Ailing Charles tried to regain the Heavyweight title three times, losing once to Walcott in 1952 and twice to Marciano in 1954. Charles a spent force by that time, who, from 1951 on was suffering from the symptoms of ALS."* -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015 Rocky fans always talk about Charles being only 33 when he fought Rocky but what they always fail to mention is that Charles was the #2 ranked middleweight in the world when he was only 19 years old. Charles had already been through numerous wars (trauma) throughout the entire 1940s. Charles fought Moore 3 times, Bivins 4 times, Maxim 5 times, etcetera. Low-power (42% KO's) middleweight/light heavyweight Charles already had 95 fights by the time he faced Rocky. Imagine if the roles were reversed and Rocky had those 95 fights? 41 year old middleweight/light heavyweight Moore already had 178 fights by the time he faced Rocky. Imagine if the roles were reversed and Rocky was 41 with 178 fights? *Per family request Moore's birthdate was recently changed at Wikipedia to 1913. Moore was factual 41 when he fought Rocky!!!* *Charles/Moore didn't even need to fight Rocky!!! They still would have been entered into the Hall of Fame for what they already accomplished in the middleweight and light heavyweight divisions!!! Little Rocky fights a bunch of has-been light heavyweights and his legacy ends up being the Greatest Heavyweight that ever lived. What a Joke!!!*
Ezzard Charles said he first noticed the ailment in 1951, *"after a guy hit me, I didn't seem to be able to get away,"* he recalled, *"I didn't have the same coordination."* Ezzard himself, his family, Lou Duva, Burt Sugar, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Brown, Ferrera and Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. --'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' by William Dettloff *There's no room for debate, too many reputable witnesses.* *(Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking lived with ALS for 55 years).* *Any questions about the validity then I'd suggest filing defamation lawsuits against Ezzard, his family, all his trainers, Duva, Sugar, and biographer William Dettloff.*
Where does everyone get their information about WWI & WWII? From numerous History books. Where does everyone get their information about Marciano? From biographies and witnesses testimony. Where does everyone get their information about Charles? From his biography and witnesses testimony. Okay then how can anyone say Charles did 'Not' have symptoms of ALS (1951) long before he fought Marciano in 1954 if they've never read *Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life by William Dettloff?*
WOW, Tiger Ted is sharp and doesn't really show signs of any boxing related cognitive decline, after all the fights he had. He was a better fighter then his record indicated ! RIP
Ted was my trainer at the greater Norwalk boxing association.He was a firm believer in defense and counter punching off a slip or parrying punches and countering and that’s what he taught when we fought in shows we always looked polished win or lose . He truly cared about us and would defend us against the promoters and other trainers favoring their guys . In western Massachusetts at the Holyoke golden gloves tournament in the mid 80’s a trainer from Hartford named Johnny Duke was playing games and Ted was gonna whoop his ass he like I said always had our best interest at heart . He was an honest good hard working man and a mentor in my life .
All the sportswriters and fans in attendance said Ted Lowry beat Marciano their 1st fight. The books below discuss Lowry beating Marciano: 1. Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times - by Russell Sullivan 2. Tiger Ted Lowry by the Tale - by Robert Mladinich 3. Remembering Ted Lowry, A Piece Of The Rock And War Hero - by Lennie Grimaldi 4. The Providence Journal - by Michael J. Thomas wrote, "Marciano did not win the fight. This reporter gave it to Lowry, six rounds to four.”
There are some who never give up. There is nothing to do, they do not go down. And if they go down, they get up. You will always find them before you, maybe staggering, blood-filled, ready to step on. Sport teaches you cannot always win... They do not care, do not believe that, and always win: with a broken nose, with closed eye, a blood-red mouth. Rocky was like this. Rough, wild, fearless. His straight right punch was equivalent to a 9th grade richter. His left hook punch was an electroshock. He was not there to lose. An invincible.
In Undefeated: Rocky Marciano - The Fighter Who Refused to Lose By Everett Skehan, it is documented that Rocky refused to take phone calls in camp. He didn’t want radios, (It was before the widespread use of television) or newspapers, or discussions about anything except boxing and training. He had no contact with his family or anyone in the outside world. He was there solely to train from before sunup to after sunset. Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning. In camp, he would run in the morning, and fast-walk another 10 miles at night. He also did wind sprints during the day. He liked to run short distances, a couple of hundred yards, up a hill in training as fast as he could, and then run back down facing backwards. And then he repeated over and over until he was exhausted. He used a speed bag but not like anyone else does or did, he would hit it with hooks and slow power shots to work on his accuracy. He trained using a custom made 300 pound heavy bag. He would power clean a giant rock and toss it forward with both hands (the rock weighed over a hundred pounds). He did crunches that combined kicking a heavy medicine ball out to the trainer He believed in calisthenics, and did up to several hours worth in addition to everything else. Several days a week Rocky went shoulder deep in a swimming pool and threw hundreds of underwater punches for up to an hour. And then, in the late afternoon, Rocky would spar. Rocky literally trained every day from before sunup, to after sundown. So he could do 15 rounds. No science based training today could match Rocky’s old time regimen for intensity, or his old time trainer, Charlie Goldman for knowledge. There isn’t a trainer today capable of taking Rocky Marciano and making him an undisputed champion. There is a price for that toughness and peerless conditioning. Rocky had to train year round, and he trained in between fights harder than most fighters train in camp. Rocky said after the Lester amateur fight: "I will never be outworked again.” And he wasn’t. Rocky Marciano summed up his philosophy simply: “Greatness is getting up when you go down, and keeping on when you think you can’t. Greatness is winning when nobody thinks you will, or fighting on when you know you are going to lose, but you can’t give up.” And that will, that ferocious desire to win, those hours, days, months, 8 straight years of training every day, is what made Rocky Marciano a Champion when he was always smaller, usually slower, and with less reach.
Rocky came at the right time. WWII Korea, smallest and weakest Heavyweight division in boxing history. Louis, Walcott, Charles and Moore had already been boxing pro for ((74)) years before facing Rocky, that's SEVENTY FOUR YEARS people!!! Little Rocky's horseshirt resume cannot be denied.
Ali said Shavers was the hardest puncher. Foreman said Lyle was the hardest puncher. Archie Moore rated Sheppard and Durelle as the hardest punchers. Emanuel Steward rated Wladimir and Lennox as the hardest punchers.
Joseph Parker and Deontay Wilder said 285 lb Big Bang Zhang was the hardest puncher. Andy Ruiz rated 305 lb Miller as the hardest puncher. Jared Anderson said 285 lb Bakole's punching power was unbelievable.
The day after Marciano Quit boxing he abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands. *He also started his loansharking business--(psychosis and other symptoms he suffered)--@ 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI*
R.I.P Mr Lowry! An amazing interview! Genuinely had smiling ear to ear listening to his stories, and it's great to see a fighter in such wonderful condition at his age!
I'd never heard of Tiger Ted Lowry until this video popped up on my feed, so I had to do some research. This gentleman was one hell of a fighter, and just the fact he went the distance with Marchiano TWICE is enough for me. Kudos to Throwback Media for this great interview.
Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward a proven boxing genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
Carmine Vingo's *F-LEVEL* opponents: *1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* *2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* *3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* *4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* *5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL and Vingo LOSES!!!* *6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* *7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* *8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* *9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* *11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* *12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* *14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL* *16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* *(Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought ((4)) opponents TWICE within 16 bouts)* *17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL* *(Vingo actually fights this 0-0-0 debuting amateur just before facing Rocky!!!)* *18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses. Rocky said, *"It so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* - Rocky @ The Marciano Tapes #6 Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."* So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo's hand. I was always mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old 6' 4' 220 lb Superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight Champion of the World but in reality he was a 6' 0 188 lb *F-LEVEL-BUM* that was set-up for slaughter!!! *Both LaStarza and Marciano's resumes are practically identical to Vingo's!!! Marciano's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's. Don't believe? Then do the research on Rocky's opponents one at a time. It's easy to do. Start at the bottom (BoxRec) with Rocky's first opponent Lee Epperson and slowly work towards the top. Just push on Lee Epperson' name and it'll automatically take you to Lee Epperson' entire career. See what's happening folks is the Marciano family is controlling everything said about Rocky at both Wikipedia and BoxRec. But all that's about to change! It's all gonna go back to it's original format from 10 to 15 years ago because I SAVED EVERYTHING!!!*
“Clay gets better each time you see him. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. He puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I’ve ever seen." - *@ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan*
Most people openly admit that the versions of Charles, Moore and Walcott that he fought were far from prime (The Joe Louis and Lee Savold fights really doesn't even deserve to be brought up). So it isn't the quality of Rocky's competition that his reputation is based on among the greats, it is that famous record 49-0. If Rocky's 49-0 record is the basis of his greatness then the fighters on that record should be the very best that were available. But by my reckoning that is the furthest thing from the truth. Infact when you look at the highest ranked fighters of the era, and then you look at his record, it's scandalous how many he didn't fight. Many of the ones he DID choose to fight are just as scandalous. Top fighters Marciano definitely should have fought that he didn't. *1)* Harold Johnson *2)* Oakland Billy Smith *3)* Yolande Pompey *4)* Curtis Hatchetman Sheppherd *5)* Clarence Henry *6)* Joey Maxim *7)* Marty Marshall *8)* Bob Satterfield *9)* Jimmy Bivins *10)* Lloyd Marshall *11)* Nino Valdes Those are just the definites, we could add many other names (like Tommy Jackson, Dan Bucceroni or even Bob Baker) that while not as good, are definitely better than some of the guys he DID fight that make up that "legendary" record. Guys like these; Lee Epperson (Career Record 0-1) Jimmy Weeks (Career Record 0-1) Gilbert Cardone (Career Record 0-3) John Edwards (Career Record 1-2) Bill Hardeman (Career Record 1-7) Humphrey Jackson (Career Record 4-3) Johnnie Pretzie (Career Record 10-14) Bob Jefferson (Career Record 3-10) Gilley Ferron (Career Record 4-13) Tommy DiGiorgio (Career Record 9-15) Artie Donato (Career Record 7-13) Harry Haft (Career Record 12-7) James Connoly (Career Record 12-9) Harry Bilazarian (Career Record 15-12) Joe Dominic (Career Record 18-12) Don Mogard (Career Record 20-16) Jimmy Walls (Career Record 21-41) Eldridge Eatman (Career Record 22-21) according to BoxRec and the Providence Journal, *"Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round and Eatman went down, THOUGH IT DIDN'T APPEAR HE WAS HIT"* Not only did Eldridge take a-dive vs. Rocky but he had just lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Why would a 26-0 boxer fight an F-LEVEL diver who had just lost 8 fights? It's clear as day Mafia Boss Carbo and underboss Al Weill cherry picked and padded Rocky's resume! Marciano's 32nd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Keene Simmons who had a career 9 wins 22 losses. Marciano's 33rd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell who had a career 7 wins 16 losses. *(Harold had just lost 10 fights in a row before diving against Rocky)* Marciano's 34th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Art Henri who had a career 18 wins 29 losses. Marciano's 35th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate who had a career 12 wins 16 losses. Immediately *((same day))* after 170-lb diver Eddie Ross was supposedly KO'd by Marciano he drove from Rhode Island Providence to Quebec City Quebec -- 8 hr 15 min 465.9 mi via I-93 N inorder to fight 160-lb Billy Sparks.. ( *"Amazing recovery by Eddie Ross after being KO'd by Rocky Marciano the previous day."* --BoxRec and Providence Journal ) Inspect Eddie's resume, it's hilarious! None of these guys beat anyone of note! Many of these guys he even fought pretty far into his career when there were obviously alternatives. In light of this should this 49-0 record be as revered as it is to some?
@@Rowdy-r2d2-John.3.16 You’ll need to explain the knockout in the first Walcott fight. The punch looked legit to me, as was Walcott’s reaction to it. And the Matthews fight. The Layne fight. The Louis fight. No matter how old Louis was, he was HIT by pile driving punches. Marciano could hit, could take it, and was always in condition. It was enough for what he did, as long as it lasted. His style wouldn’t allow for a long career. Look at Frazier after the first Ali fight. All of that face-first take-three-to-land-one plunging because of your pipsqueak height and T-Rex arms takes a lot more out of you than standing off and pot-shotting with your 80-inch reach while doing everything but running to avoid being hit.
@@sorshiaemms5959 Marciano fought mostly absolute stiffs and didn’t fight a rated opponent until his 36th fight. There wasn’t the big money for anyone outside the top 2 or 3 fighters in the division and fighters had to fight often to earn any kind of living. Frazier won the undisputed title in his 25th fight; Marciano was KOing Carmine Vingo, the third bout on a 5-bout card at MSG. It wasn’t even a semifinal bout. How about this: Marciano’s 1st listed pro fight was followed by a 16 MONTH GAP before his 2nd listed pro fight. What was he doing during that GAP? Well, it appears that he had NINE 3-round AMATEUR fights, LOSING one to Coley Wallace! So was Marciano REALLY undefeated?
Well my friend, there are many rocky Haters out there and at my age (80) I have heard most all of them but You take the Cake! You have gone so far above them all in doing all this research, time and effort to state your case! I don't mean to put you down but if one is to believe your Thesis of Rocky's Career, His name should be removed from the Boxing HOF! NOT!
After his brilliant but erratic welterweight, Vince Foster, had been killed in an auto accident, Jack Hurley, the tall, thin, caustic manager and promoter who has a genius for developing mediocre fighters into rich ones, began snooping around for another boxer. Into his office one day in 1949 walked a skinny middleweight named Harry (Kid) Matthews, who had won 67 out of 70 fights on the West Coast, had been fighting for 12 years and had succeeded only in getting deep into debt. Hurley agreed to take him on for his usual 50%. Matthews screamed in anguish. "Listen, young man," said Hurley, "you've been boxing for 12 years and you've made exactly nothing. Now, 50% of nothing is nothing. You don't know how lucky you are. What is happening is that you are getting 50% of me." Hurley watched his new gladiator work out and was appalled. "He got all his ideas from amateurs. It's a wonder he hadn't been seriously hurt. His idea of how to defend himself was to grab and run. That's all he knew. He didn't even know how to eat. He'd eat two meals a day." "But oh, he was such a bad fighter. He couldn't punch, he couldn't take a punch. He was an agony fighter. Looking at a fighter that can't punch is like kissing your mother-in-law." Hurley brought Matthews along slowly and one night put him into the ring with a carefully selected opponent who had had only 12 fights and was too light to cope with Matthews. "I figured Matthews would make his name overnight," says Hurley. "He figured to knock the kid out easy. But it went 10 rounds and nobody got hit, although Matthews wins the decision. The next day Matthews comes into the office, and he says, 'How did you like the fight?' "I says, 'What fight?' "He says, 'Last night.' "I says, 'Harry, that was the most disgraceful thing I ever saw. If you and that kid were to go down to the street corner right now and go through the same antics, that traffic cop wouldn't even come over and break it up.' " But Hurley has never needed a superfighter; all he needed now was a property, and Matthews, game and willing to learn, was it. The two of them set up shop in Seattle, and Hurley began the great campaign. Traveling the Northwest like a couple of drummers, the soft-punching, glass-chinned Matthews reeled off a dazzling skein of 35 consecutive wins. Hurley explains in detail how the feat was accomplished: *"I made sure he didn't fight any great fighters. I picked 'em mostly by their styles, guys that had styles just right for Matthews. So all his fights appeared to be sensational."* written by JACK OLSEN MAY 1961 (And to think little cruiser Rocky had to fight extra little Matthews in a bout that served as a final eliminator for a shot at the 'Heavyweight' Championship of the World. Smallest and worst Heavyweight division in boxing history.
Great interview. Lowry is a gentleman 100 times over. I have a taped interview of Ted Lowry where he discusses many of his fights including the Marciano, Moore, Maxim, and Tiger Jack Fox fights. I asked him who was the better fighter Moore or Fox? His answer was: “I would have to say Fox.” He spoke much about his military career when I interviewed him.
*C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott lost to Middleweights Mays ,, Palmer ,, Ketchell ,, and to Light heavyweights Charles x2 ,, Fox x2 ,, Maxim ,, Brothers ,, Taylor.. In summary Walcott consistently lost to Middleweights and Light heavyweights!!! Overall he lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times!!!*
*C-LEVEL Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott's 20 losses:* *1.* ln 1930 Walcott LOST to 159 lb Palmer. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* Little Rocky was only *(7)* years old. *2.* In 1930 Walcott LOST to 158 lb Carl Mays. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *3.* In 1933 Walcott LOST to 177 lb Henry Taylor. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *4.* In 1936 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 191 lb Al Ettore. *5.* In 1936 Walcott LOST to 179 lb Billy Ketchell. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *6.* In 1937 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 178 lb Tiger Jack Fox. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *7.* In 1937 Walcott LOST to 174 lb George Brothers. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *8.* In 1938 Walcott LOST to 184 lb Tiger Jack Fox AGAIN. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *9.* In 1938 Walcott LOST to 197 lb Roy Lazer. *10.* In 1940 Walcott was horribly *(KO'd)* and sent into RETIREMENT for *(4½)* years by 256 lb Super Heavyweight Abe Simon. *"Simon unleashed a tremendous right @ **2:32** into the sixth causing the knockout. Walcott didn't move as he was counted out."* Rocky himself said, "Walcott was only 90%" @ The Marciano Tapes #3 *11.* In 1945 Walcott LOST to 204 lb Johnny Allen who had more losses than wins. *12.* In 1946 Walcott LOST to 179 lb Joey Maxim. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *13.* In 1946 Walcott LOST to 191 lb Elmer Ray. *14.* In 1947 Walcott LOST to overweight 212 lb Joe Louis. *15.* In 1948 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 213 lb Joe Louis. Louis barely got through the Journeyman so he announced his retirement March 1, 1949. Louis's speed was just a memory and his reflexes were no longer instinctive. *16.* In 1949 Walcott LOST to 181 lb light heavyweight Ezzard Charles. This fight was for the *"vacant-paper"* Heavyweight title. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *17.* In 1950 Walcott LOST to 192 lb *one dimensional C-LEVEL* Rex Layne. *18.* In 1951 Walcott LOST to 185 lb Ezzard Charles AGAIN. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *19.* In 1952 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 184 lb Rocky Marciano. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *20.* In 1953 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 184 lb Rocky Marciano AGAIN. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* *IT IS OUT OF THE QUESTION THAT WALCOTT WAS IN HIS PRIME vs MARCIANO BECAUSE IT'S SCIENTIFICALLY AND MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE AND JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY HE WAS DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!!*
*There are few Heavyweight champions in the history of boxing that are better known for their losses than their wins. Walcott's high profile losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins. In his overall career Walcott had 49 wins 20 losses and was KO'd 6 times. Based on these less than impressive stats it is difficult to consider him anymore than a good Journeyman. The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5½) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division must have been at this time. Had Walcott been fighting in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000's there is no way in hell he would have been granted this many opportunities after losing so many title attempts. Walcott should at best be remembered Not as a great Heavyweight champion, but a good C-LEVEL Journeyman.*
Walcott vs. Louis 1 in 1947 the press criticized Walcott. Every sports reporter claimed that Jersey Joe was at least 38 years old. Others said he was older. Sportswriters dubbed him 'Pappy', 'elderly', 'ancient', and 'aging' were commonly used to describe Walcott. Since Walcott was born at home and not in a hospital he could not prove his age with a birth certificate that would have been filed when he was born. Walcott had to have a birth certificate for the different state boxing commission's inorder to continue boxing. Needless to say he haphazardly created and filed a birth certificate in 1936 when he was in his mid-twenties at the Camden Bureau of Vital Statistics. *It's all there in Walcott's biography Chapter 9 page 71.* If Walcott was 38 when he fought Louis in 1947 wouldn't that put him in his forties vs. Marciano in 1952? It makes perfect sense when ya study Walcott's facial features. Walcott's senior citizen legs were washed, that's why he got trapped against the ropes with *"Both Hands Down"* during the 13th. Hey, it happens to us all. Nobody escapes father time!
Joe Louis is widely regarded as one of the greatest and most influential boxers of all time. He reigned as the world heavyweight champion from 1937 until his temporary retirement in 1949. He was victorious in 25 consecutive title defenses, a record for all weight classes. Louis had the longest single reign as champion of any boxer in history. Marciano could only dream of defending the title 25 times like Joe Louis did much less come back for more at age 37.
Joe Louis was buried in Arlington National cemetery with full military honors. Joe was a hero unlike Rocky who was dishonorably discharged for felony assault and robbery.
The majority wanted Joe Louis to win, that's why he was favored to win. They wanted Joe to win because they knew what Rocco Francis Marchegiano represented. Every day hard working people were terrified of the Sicilian's aka Italians who controlled the entire east coast.
He was a high-school dropout who worked a series of dead-end jobs - delivering coal, laboring in factories making candy, beverages, and shoes, slinging hash in a diner, digging ditches, clearing land, and fixing sidewalks. But Marciano had two world-class skills. He could absorb a frightful beating, and he could knock men out cold. “I was a nobody,” he was fond of saying. “In the ring, I became a somebody."
Marciano boarded a small Cessna 172 with pilot Glenn Belz, and Frank Farrell, the son of Louis Thomas Fratto, born Luigi Tommaso Giuseppe Fratto, also known as "Lew Farrell" and "Cock-eyed", an American labor racketeer and organized crime figure in Chicago, Illinois, and Des Moines, Iowa, from the 1930s to his death in 1967. A massive storm system challenged Belz's relative inexperience (231 hours of total flight time) as the plane flew west from Chicago over Iowa. Trying to land at a small airfield outside Newton, Belz crashed the plane into a tree about two miles short of the intended runway. On August 31, 1969, all aboard, including Marciano, died on impact. It was all Rocky's fault, he pressured the amateur pilot into flying even though he knew they were headed towards severe thunderstorms. Why? What was so important in Des Moines? His business was loansharking and he was in a hurry to collect 35K which is equivalent to 293K today. He was in a hurry because he didn't want to be late to his birthday (Sept. 1st) party the next day in Florida.
During his retirement speech, and during his appearance on the Ed Sullivan show Rocky said, *"I want to spend more time with my family."* Instead, he immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands and left them penniless, *@ THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Aug 23, 1993*
Marciano would break a payphone clean off the wall just to retrieve his 10 cents even though he had 30K in his pocket. He was half a bubble off plumb with severe obsessive-compulsive personality disorder *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.*
Floyd Patterson wrote in Victory Over Myself: *“I loved Cus, but he was not going to let me fight the best because he was afraid I was going to lose. I decided a Champion had to face everyone, even if he loses, and I felt better despite the losses."* Ironically, even though he lost to Liston and never regained the title, he is still ranked in the top 20 heavyweights of all time precisely because he fired Cus, and fought real contenders, rolling up a record worthy of the Hall of Fame. After he fired Cus, Floyd faced: Muhammad Ali Sonny Liston Eddie Machen Henry Cooper Jimmy Ellis Oscar Bonavena Jerry Quarry George Chuvalo *"I decided a Champion had to face everyone, even if he loses."* - Floyd Patterson (SOMETHING ROCKY MARCIANO NEVER DID) *Why did Rocky "UP-N-QUIT" during his prime after only (7) years while everyone else was fighting (15) to (25) years? Patterson fought from 1952 to 1972. Imagine Rocky having a normal 20 year career from 1948 to 1968? He woulda had to face Cleveland, Johansson, Patterson, Liston, Terrell, Frazier, Chuvalo, Quarry, Machen, Folley, Bonavena, Ellis, Jones, Copper, Miteff, and Mildenberger just to name a few.* *For Pete's sake Marciano was only 31 his last fight and to make matters even worse his last fight had to be against a 41 year old light heavyweight named Archie Moore born "1913" wikipedia!* *Little Marciano ducked Marty Marshall, Johnson, Maxim, Pompey, Bivins, Satterfield, Valdez, Lloyd Marshall, Oakland Billy Smith, Clarence Henry, Curtis "Hatchetman" Sheppard, Jackson, Bucceroni and Baker just to name a few. Don't fight any that could beat us then leave before the young exposes us.*
Professional boxing is entertainment, and the people promoting and managing fights want to make money. When I watch modern era bouts, the really tough fights I get a certain satisfaction knowing both fighters made a lot of money for the fight. So if Marciano faced the top contenders when he was #1, there would have been less money for the fighters who should get a healthy portion of the proceeds .
@@jamest681 *so what did little Rocky do immediately after he retired? He abandoned his kids and wife, Barbara, to sleep with thousands and left them penniless,, not to mention he immediately went into loansharking with all his cousins. Keep making excuses hahahaha* 😂
I had the honor of interviewing and training with "Tiger" Ted!!!! He's mentioned in the book "Triple Nickles" about his unit, the 555th Para Battalion, Smoke Jumpers.... great trainer, soldier, boxer, man!!! RIP!
Really cool to listen to these guys, almost from another world. He looks very sharp, and healthy. I really hope that these men have a good pension, health care and decent safe place to call home. These are the Senior Citizens of our society, and that should have some respect attached to it.
Who's seen Moore in his Prime? Not when he was overweight and 41 vs Rocky in 1955 but his "Real Prime" in 1940? He had muscle on top of muscle and weighed 159. He wasn't weight drained, he was 27 and Prime!!! It's easy to see, simply type; *"'Earliest Footage of Archie Moore vs Ron Richards 1940"'* Moore weighed 148 in 1935. Moore never weighed more than 165 until 1944. That's 9 years at Middleweight. He finally attained the 160 to 175 lb Light heavyweight title after *(17)* years in 1952 and held that belt until 1962. *So Moore was moonlighting (gain 5 to 15 lbs, lose 5 to 15 lbs) the 175 lb Heavyweight division for 10 years.* *Moore was Awesome in the Middleweight and Light heavyweight divisions but the truth is Low-Power 171/173 lb Light heavyweight Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Rocky smashed him. Every time Moore stepped-up in competition he got KO'd!!!* Only reason Charles won the Heavyweight title is bcz Louis retired, leaving 181 lb Low-Power Light heavyweight Charles and 195 lb C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott to fight for his vacated title. *What happened next? A fresh 184 lb Rocky comes along and cleans up the left over scraps and residue from ring-worn and washed has-been's.* *The 1940's was obviously Moore's Prime years, same principal with Charles/Walcott. Louis' prime was during the late 1930's. Anyone that thinks these guys were Prime vs Rocky is a FOOL!!!*
Generally, the point in his career when a fighter is fighting makes a ton of difference. A killer at one point is often a pushover later on. You see it a zillion times in boxing, and in MMA as well. But like you say, far too many people just go by the names of opponents when looking at a fighter's hit list. On the other hand, you can only fight who is set before you. It's not your fault if you're fighting in a weak era, when the legends of old have become shadows.
Rockys first amateur fight was April 15th 1946 , Rocky had his first professional fight march 17th 1947 he was 24 very late starter ! . Ted lowery what a gentleman and one great boxer god bless you mr lowery .
In May of 1950, the IRS finished a full audit of Louis's past returns and announced, that with interest and penalties, he owed the government more than $500,000. Louis had no choice but to return to the ring. The Louis camp negotiated a deal with the IRS under which 36 year old Louis would come out of retirement, with all his net proceeds going to the IRS. After boxing Joe ended up in the pro wrestling circuit and they still took his money. But that gig finished when Cowboy Rocky Lee lunged onto him with both feet, his boots colliding with Louis' torso. The crash cracked three of his ribs. It left him with a cardiac contusion and officially ended his stint as a wrestler. Children used to send him one dollar in the mail. In his biography he said a child walked up and handed him a dime. When Joe was broken physically and mentally the IRS finally stopped collecting. He lived with friends until he died.
I understand what he is saying about the second fight being a surprise and he wasn't ready or in shape, but I do hate it when fighters start using if's and why's after a loss. I also understand a fighter has to believe in himself, but excuses never make you look good. He took the fight and back then fighters had to do what they did just to put food on the table. A great fighter always trains and stays ready though and if they don't, they are the only one to blame. Don't get me wrong because I love this guy, and it was a great interview. He can always say he fought Rocky and to me that is a win right there alone. God bless him.
Its not an excuse it is a fact. These tactics are used all the time by the A side fighter and there team. The fans that were not around at the time deserve context and details on the circumstances of the fight.
It happens today with weight clauses where a guy finally gets his big fight, but he's drained for it and fighting in his home town. You can't seriously be blind to that happening on the sport? Its commonplace
"I didn’t fight Dempsey. But I did fight Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. Some of us might hit as hard but Clay would out punch us in every exchange. Now, when Dempsey was fighting, he stood right over a man he had floored and hit him as he was getting up." - *@ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan*
Thanks for this super interview, always looking out for any of the old school boxers of the past, not many alive now from that era so this is a gem. Mr Lowry was one of many of that time who was world class but I guess didn’t have the top managers that get you a title shot. It’s something special to have fought Marciano twice and go the distance in both, no other fighters managed that. To me Marciano is one of the all time greats, others can criticise but the he had something that made him special, pure determination to win. Sure he had his breaks with fortunate points wins and was well managed, but show me any other boxer that didn’t have the same in their careers. Ok he fought boxers past their best but they were still the best out there at the time, both Charles and Moore got their shot at Marciano because they beat Slatterfield and Valdes in eliminators. There is of coarse others that Marciano’s managers may of avoided , but no boxer with an unbeaten record or long unbeaten rung hadn’t had the same career protection at some point. If Marciano’s record is overrated because he avoided other top fighters at the time or boxers with poor records then for comparison SRR record is overrated, he too fought lots of fighters with poor records and he never fought any of the murderers row boxers (Apart from Tiger Wade I believe, and depending on what you believe Wade was paid off) Robinson never wanted to go near Charley Burley. I’m not belittling SRR, to me he was the perfect boxer, had everything, I’m just using it as an example. And any case, if some fighters did have more losses than wins, in that era it didn’t mean they weren’t good boxers, they probably just didn’t have good management. In recent years the best example is Emmanuel Augustus, his record isn’t great but he is to me one of the best boxers never to get a title shot, Floyd always maintained he was the best boxer he ever fought. Going back to Marciano, to me he accomplishments were incredible, to think he didn’t start boxing until his twenties, had limited natural boxing techniques, through punches off balance, his feet would get tangled up, but he developed into one of the greats, that’s why I rank his trainer Charley Goldman as one of the greatest trainers, he said Rocky couldn’t fight a lick, but he had incredible heart and determination. Also, his traing camps were legendary tough and long, as Tiger Lowry said, Marciano had incredible conditioning. Anyway, sorry for the long rant, I’m going to watch this video again and again. 👏🥊 P.S, what a sobering story regarding his bus journey during his service years, and rest room scene regarding a Blackman being removed from the rest room, the racist hippocracy at that time in the states is a awakening call of how this sort of terrible times should not be forgotten, and the fight should still go on to abolish any prejudice eventually, hopefully. Being from the UK, I’m fascinated by American working class history. I would recommend a book by Howard Zinn called the people’s history of the United States, excellent reading.✊
Wow bless you Ted Lowry, he looks so fresh and speaks so well after boxing in those times. But one thing, I don't know why any black person would put their life on the line for a country that does not give them any respect, and treat them like trash with their racist attitude. A person is a person no matter the skin shade, we are all the same, but he is a good man and took it in his stride, I would never have fought any war for such a country, I would go to jail, and take my chances there instead. How could they give pow's rights, and none for a person fighting for them, just shows the level of hatred they have.
A couple weeks before the bout Joe Louis was ordered to visit the white house where Franklin D. Roosevelt told him, "Joe, we need your muscles to beat Germany." Louis later admitted, "I knew i had to get Schmeling good. I had my own personal reasons and the whole damned country was depending on me." June 22, 1938 with 71,000 people in Yankee Stadium Joe Louis met Max Schmeling and millions of folks around the world was listening by radio in English, German, Spanish and Portuguese. Here in America factories, businesses, families, everyone huddled around radios, all of America stopped for a moment. Schmeling managed to throw only two punches entire fight. Joe landed blows to his head and body that could knock down a brick wall. Max screamed when Joe literally broke his back. With the world on the precipice of WWII, Louis hammered Hitler's symbol of Aryan supremacy with his 1938 destruction of Germany's Max Schmeling. It is considered among the most important moments in sports history.
So glad I got to see this documentary. A great fighter, and an even better man. I have to say though, the bus story, as well as the bathroom story, stirred up some anger in me. An American Hero, fighting to defend our country, depicted as being beneath a P.O.W. based on the color of his skin. So fucking wrong. Thank you for your service. 🇺🇸
Ted Lowry said, *"Archie Moore hit me harder than anyone, almost broke my jaw, had to eat soup"* and *"Archie Moore would have beat Rocky in his prime, yep, yep, hate to say it but it's true"* and *"Charles, Moore, Walcott, were on their way out when they fought Rocky."*
@@jamest681 *Per family request Wikipedia recently changed Archie Moore's birthdate to 1913 which makes Archie exactly 41 years of age when he fought little tiny dwarfism-arms.*
Who's seen Moore in his Prime? Not when he was overweight and 41 vs Rocky in 1955 but his "Real Prime" in 1940? He had muscle on top of muscle and weighed 159. He wasn't weight drained, he was 27 and Prime!!! It's easy to see, simply type; *"'Earliest Footage of Archie Moore vs Ron Richards 1940"'* Moore weighed 148 in 1935. Moore never weighed more than 165 until 1944. That's 9 years at Middleweight. He finally attained the 160 to 175 lb Light heavyweight title after *(17)* years in 1952 and held that belt until 1962. *So Moore was moonlighting (gain 5 to 15 lbs, lose 5 to 15 lbs) the 175 lb Heavyweight division for 10 years.* *Moore was Awesome in the Middleweight and Light heavyweight divisions but the truth is Low-Power 171/173 lb Light heavyweight Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Rocky smashed him. Every time Moore stepped-up in competition he got KO'd!!!* Only reason Charles won the Heavyweight title is bcz Louis retired, leaving 181 lb Low-Power Light heavyweight Charles and 195 lb C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott to fight for his vacated title. *What happened next? A fresh 184 lb Rocky comes along and cleans up the left over scraps and residue from ring-worn and washed has-been's.* *The 1940's was obviously Moore's Prime years, same principal with Charles/Walcott. Louis' prime was during the late 1930's. Anyone that thinks these guys were Prime vs Rocky is a FOOL!!!*
@@Rowdy-r2d2-John.3.16 Archie Moore had many more fights after the Rocky fight. His career had a long way to go. Moore is just a freak of nature as far as longevity. What age gave him was more experience.
Incredible eloquency for an 87 year old ex pro who was in the ring with Moore, Bivins and Marciano. How many kos do these guys have between them? 200+? Amazing.
“Cassius’ edge in height and reach, his fast hands and legs and the power he puts into his punches, whether from in close or at long range, would be too much for any of the champs I’ve mentioned. All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance. He could do the same thing to Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and me. He might not knock us out but he would beat all of us." - *@ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan*
“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. Clay would just have to stay away from us for a few rounds and then start throwing his combinations." - *@ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan*
JESUS CHRIST THIS GENTLEMAN STORY ARE OVER THE TOP!!!! MY GOD 87 YEARS OLD WITH THIS DETAIL LIFE STORY IS AMAZING GOD BLESS THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
"I think Lowry would have gone the distance if we had fought a hundred times. I could never get used to his style of fighting." - Rocky Marciano
Daniel Enberg from BoxRec wrote, *"In the old days divers could yield good results making a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably."* Little light heavyweight Ted Lowry had a career 73 wins 68 losses with zero physical and mental defects yet he's almost 90. It's not that complicated to figure out people. Little Rocky's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's.
This guy's 87! God bless him!
Wow
He’s been dead for 14 years
Daniel Enberg from BoxRec wrote, *"In the old days divers could yield good results making a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably."* Little light heavyweight Ted Lowry had a career 73 wins 68 losses with zero physical and mental defects yet he's almost 90. It's not that complicated to figure out people. Little Rocky's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's.
in the 70’s they had the overweight, undertrained and overrated fat boys that had no endurance. Rocky bulled Ali around and hurt him in their sparring match and would have done the same in a fight. Marciano was the greatest fighter that ever lived and he turned every boxing match into a fight! Don’t be jealous of greatness. All your fat boys lost.
Crazy he looks like 60's
Great interview. Mr. Lowry is a very articulate man; you'd never say he fought the tough opponents he faced in the ring. What a privilege to see and hear an interview with someone who fought greats like Marciano and Moore. To have gone the distance with both of them is a great accomplishment. What a time for a boxing fan to be alive.
All the sportswriters and fans in attendance said Ted Lowry beat Marciano their 1st fight. The books below discuss Lowry beating Marciano:
1. Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times - by Russell Sullivan
2. Tiger Ted Lowry by the Tale - by Robert Mladinich
3. Remembering Ted Lowry, A Piece Of The Rock And War Hero - by Lennie Grimaldi
4. The Providence Journal - by Michael J. Thomas wrote, "Marciano did not win the fight. This reporter gave it to Lowry, six rounds to four.”
@@Bobby.D.1776 I looked up Marciano's record. Tiger Ted Lowry is the only opponent to have gone the distance with Marciano TWICE.
@@janswart9800 "I think Lowry would have gone the distance if we had fought a hundred times. I could never get used to his style of fighting." - Rocky Marciano
Unbeaten is the story of an immigrant son who chased the American dream in the middle of the 20th Century *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.* Rocky Marciano’s story unfolds in the back alleys of New England and the musty gyms of New York in the years after World War 2. He moved through a romantic era of guys and dolls, hustlers and gamblers, crusty trainers and sleazy managers, glamorous celebrities and notorious mobsters.
What I knew about the undefeated 184 lb cruiserweight champ before I read the book 'Unbeaten' was that he quit during his prime right before he would have had to face the likes of Cleveland Williams, Floyd Patterson and Sonny Liston just to name a few. I did not know about his conduct during World War 2 that got him locked for two years for felony assault and robbery.
Nor did i realize that his list of opponents while he was champ were of dubious quality, boxers who were on the way down like Louis and Walcott. Light heavyweight Moore was 41 if not older and light heavyweight Charles had Lou Gehrig's disease.
For the last decade of his life Marciano wandered America, disillusioned, untrusting, hiding his money, cheating on his wife, consorting with the mobsters and loansharking. He hung around with Frank Sinatra and a number of "made guys."
Marciano was not a good businessperson and was lousy with investing and saving money. He left his family penniless. Again his boxing record is offset by the low level of his opponents.
He died relatively young in a plane crash due to his complete and utter disregard of intentionally flying during horrible weather conditions inorder to collect money.
Daniel Enberg from BoxRec wrote, *"In the old days divers could yield good results making a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably."* Little light heavyweight Ted Lowry had a career 73 wins 68 losses with zero physical and mental defects yet he's almost 90. It's not that complicated to figure out people. Little Rocky's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's.
Tiger Ted Lowry was a damn good fighter, and a better human being!
Louis bravely fought *(17)* years...........little Rocky only *7* years
Walcott bravely fought *(23)* years.......little Rocky only *7* years
Charles bravely fought *(20)* years.......little Rocky only *7* years
Moore bravely fought *(27)* years.........little Rocky only *7* years
Savold bravely fought *(19)* years........little Rocky only *7* years
Matthews bravely fought *(19)* years...little Rocky only *7* years
LaStarza bravely fought *(14)* years.....little Rocky only *7* years
Cockell bravely fought *(10)* years.......little Rocky only *7* years
Lowry bravely fought *(16)* years.........little Rocky only *7* years
1946 *(Rocky's amateur bouts)*
1. April 15, 1946 Henry Lester *(L-DQ3)*
2. August 23, Frederic L. Ross KO-1
3. August 23, Richard Jarvis KO-1
4. August 23, Joe DeAngelis *(Loss-3)*
1947
5. January 17, Jim Connolly KO 1
6. Jan 17, Bob Girard *(Loss-3)*
*1947-03-17 PROFESSIONAL Lee Epperson fights Amateur Rocky Mack aka Rocky Marciano. Then Rocky goes back to the amateurs Jan, Feb, and March in 1948.*
1948 *(Rocky goes back to the amateurs)*
7. Jan 26, Joe Sidlaskis KO-1
8. February Charlie Mortimer KO-3
9. February George McInnis TKO-1
10. March 1, Coley Wallace *(Loss-3)*
11. March Fred Fischera KO
12. March George McGinnis W-3
*1948-07-12 (Rocky goes back to pro) Professional Harry Bilazarian fights Rocky Marciano.. Don Cuoco and Don Cogswell just started legal proceedings to remove the Rocky Mack fight vs. Lee Epperson because once Pro you cannot go back to the amateurs.*
Louis fought *(69)* times.............little Rocky quit at *49*
Walcott fought *(70)* times.........little Rocky quit at *49*
Charles fought *(121)* times.......little Rocky quit at *49*
Moore fought *(220)* times.........little Rocky quit at *49*
Savold fought *(142)* times.........little Rocky quit at *49*
Matthews fought *(103)* times...little Rocky quit at *49*
LaStarza fought *(66)* times.......little Rocky quit at *49*
Cockell fought *(81)* times..........little Rocky quit at *49*
Lowry fought *(150)* times..........little Rocky quit at *49*
Layne fought *(70)* times............little Rocky quit at *49*
Charles Lost *(25)* times and was KOd *(7)* times
Moore Lost *(23)* times and was KO'd *(7)* times
Walcott Lost *(20)* times and was KOd *(6)* times
Savold Lost *(43)* times and was KO'd *(12)* times
Lowry Lost *(68)* times and was KO'd *(3)* times
Cockell Lost *(14)* times and was KO'd *(9)* times
LaStarza Lost *(9)* times and was KO'd *(2)* times
Layne Lost *(17)* times and was KO'd *(6)* times
*Shocking isn't it? We never see these stats bcz they're always suppressed. Today's Genuine Super Heavyweights Miller Zhang Bakole Joshua Fury Ruiz Parker Kabayel Itauma Jalolov Dubois only have a combined (15) losses yet they're already being thrown under the bus for eternity but it's perfectly fine for little Rocky's little opponents to have a combined ((753)) losses!!!*
*HOW MANY LOSSES DID THE "'BEST"' HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME HAVE:*
Lewis --------- *2*
Holmes ------ *6*
Ali -------------- *5*
Vitali ----------- *2*
Foreman ---- *5*
Tyson -------- *6*
Wladimir ---- *5*
Bowe --------- *1*
Liston -------- *4*
Louis --------- *3*
Holyfield -- *10*
Frazier ------- *4*
Norton ------- *7*
Tunney ------ *1*
Dempsey --- *6*
Johnson --- *11*
*"SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES"* -- Lennox Lewis
In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, "Rocky would run 6-7 miles a day," his uncle Charlie Piccento said, "he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one."
Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said, "after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning."
Joe Louis is widely regarded as one of the greatest and most influential boxers of all time. He reigned as the world heavyweight champion from 1937 until his temporary retirement in 1949. He was victorious in 25 consecutive title defenses, a record for all weight classes. Louis had the longest single reign as champion of any boxer in history. Marciano could only dream of defending the title 25 times like Joe Louis did much less come back for more at age 37.
Due to Joe Louis not having the punch to bother Marciano, Joe was never in the fight. Louis was devoid of everything in his offensive arsenal. Joe’s speed and power were just a memory. His accuracy and timing were long gone and his reflexes were no longer instinctive. Joe had nothing left to neutralize Rocky. Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, Marciano was just entering his prime....Prime for prime it’s an entirely different story. Marciano would have had to deal with Louis’s explosive and hard jab, set-up uppercuts, finishing hooks and right hands. Rocky would have carried the fight to Joe, and instead of meeting him at center ring and trading, Louis would have inched back and countered Marciano and looked to fight him on the inside with his back to the ropes. Louis needed little room to punch and could get off in tight quarters, he would have been able to punch inside and beat Marciano's round punches to the mark all night.
What a gentleman . Nothing but class.
amazing that he kept his wits about him after all the battles
He never got hit because he was a diver. He had no other choice. That's why he had 68 losses.
Mr Lowery sounds and looks fantastic, at 87!! I would have thought he was 15 years younger. Ted made it to 90. I hope, God willing, to keep in shape and sound as good and I've never a boxer. God Bless you Mr. Lowery and thank you for your service.
Miller weighs - 305
Zhang - 285
Bakole - 285
Teremoana - 285
Ruiz - 275
Briggs - 265
Grant - 265
Fury - 262
Jalolov - 253
Parker - 250
Foreman - 220/250
Vitali - 250
Peter - 250
Joshua - 250
Whyte - 250
Ibeabuchi - 245
Lennox - 245
Kabayel - 245
Wladimir - 245
Dubois - 245
Sanchez - 245
Ruddock - 245
Hrgovic - 245
Itauma - 240
Wardley - 240
Bowe - 240
Ortiz - 240
Witherspoon - 235
Tua - 235
Dokes - 235
Bruno - 230
Morrison - 230
Cooney - 230
Thomas - 225
Usyk - 223
Lyle - 220
Holmes - 218
Holyfield - 218
Tyson - 218
Wilder - 218
Ali - 218
Liston - 218
Frazier - 206
Dempsey - 187
*Moore - 175 lb Light heavyweight champion from 1952 to 1962.*
*Charles - 181 lb Heavyweight champion with lowest ever 42% KO's.*
*Marciano - 184 lb Heavyweight champion with 67" flyweight reach.*
What a true gentleman!
Psychosis and other symptoms Rocky Marciano suffered. - *@ THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Aug 23, 1993*
Marciano would break a payphone clean off the wall just to retrieve his 10 cents even though he had 30K in his pocket. He was half a bubble off plumb with severe obsessive-compulsive personality disorder *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.*
During his retirement speech, and during his appearance on the Ed Sullivan show Rocky said, *"I want to spend more time with my family."* Instead, he immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands and left them penniless, *@ THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Aug 23, 1993*
His name should have been Classy Tiger Ted, what a gentleman, God Bless him. During the interview I closed my eyes and it reminded me of listening to my grandfather, the greatest generation of Americans.
Terrific report Bob, Chris.
Tiger Ted Lowry is a genuine TOUGH guy, yet truly sweet, humble, and LOVEABLE.
Ya gotta love the way he gives his wife the credit she's due.
Good man.
Thanks.
This was a great documentary!! What a great story. I take my hat off to Mr Lowery.
Carmine Vingo's *F-LEVEL* opponents:
*1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
*2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
*3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
*4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL*
*5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL and Vingo LOSES!!!*
*6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
*7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
*8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL*
*9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
*11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
*12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
*14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL*
*16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought ((4)) opponents TWICE within 16 bouts)*
*17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(Vingo actually fights this 0-0-0 debuting amateur just before facing Rocky!!!)*
*18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses. Rocky said, *"It so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* - Rocky @ The Marciano Tapes #6
Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."*
So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo's hand. I was always mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old 6' 4' 220 lb Superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight Champion of the World but in reality he was a 6' 0 188 lb *F-LEVEL-BUM* that was set-up for slaughter!!!
*Both LaStarza and Marciano's resumes are practically identical to Vingo's!!! Marciano's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's. Don't believe? Then do the research on Rocky's opponents one at a time. It's easy to do. Start at the bottom (BoxRec) with Rocky's first opponent Lee Epperson and slowly work towards the top. Just push on Lee Epperson' name and it'll automatically take you to Lee Epperson' entire career. See what's happening folks is the Marciano family is controlling everything said about Rocky at both Wikipedia and BoxRec. But all that's about to change! It's all gonna go back to it's original format from 10 to 15 years ago because I SAVED EVERYTHING!!!*
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which has been used for decades:
Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL*
Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL*
Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL*
Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL*
Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL*
Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL*
Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.*
Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.*
Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.*
Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?*
Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much!
Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf.
Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Walcott's losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins!!! The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time!!! And (4) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!!!
Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D.
Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 38/39 if not older, Moore 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed.
Even Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward a proven boxing genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
*"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
*187 lb low-power LaStarza was 37-0 before he met 184 lb tiny cruiser Marciano who was 25-0. Below is LaStarza' resume, the absolute worst 37-0 in boxing history:*
*37)* Cesar Brion career record 49 wins 11 losses *C-LEVEL* looks okay until you see how many of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians.
Walter Hafer career record 22 wins 26 losses *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jackie Lyons career record 32 wins 24 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Carollo career record 36 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bill Weinberg career record 44 wins 22 losses *D-LEVEL*
Gene Gosney career record 14 wins 5 losses *D-LEVEL*
Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Mike Jacobs career record 14 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Mel McKinney career record 8 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL*
Teddy Georges career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Oscar Goode career record 43 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL*
Tony Gangemi career record 21 wins 18 losses *F-LEVEL*
Benny Rusk career record 20 wins 17 losses *F-LEVEL*
Fred McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
John Holloway career record 2 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL*
Claude McClintock career record 1 win 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
Steve King career record 21 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy White career record 9 wins 17 losses *F-LEVEL*
Frankie Reed career record 2 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL*
Mike Belluscio career record 15 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL*
Luther McMillan career record 13 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Matt Mincy career 0 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL*
Lorne McCarthy career record 2 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans career record 18 wins 8 losses *D-LEVEL*
Matt Mincy career record 0 wins 11 losses *F-LEVEL*
Zeke Brown career record 0 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jim Johnson career record 3 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Dodd career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Al Zappala career record 20 wins 27 losses *F-LEVEL*
Zack Johnson career record 3 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
Dave Glanton career record 1 win 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
*"Although LaStarza had a long winning streak at the beginning of his career, there are no tough names on his record. He refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Clarence Henry, Bob Baker, Harold Johnson, Pompey, Lloyd Marshall, Oakland Billy Smith, Curtis 'Hatchetman' Sheppard etc. Lost and avenged to overstuffed light heavy Dan Bucceroni and to light heavy Rocky Jones and looked terrible against Jones in the rematch. The Jones win and a victory over the faded Rex Layne gave him the credentials to meet Rocky for the title. Look at LaStarza's record there are no names on it except for Marciano. I have the complete film of the Jones rematch and believe me LaStarza looked terrible. I am not saying that LaStarza was a coward but he (or, excuse me, his management) refused matches with Henry, Charles, Baker, and Moore etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much, saying he wouldn't take those matches because he "deserved" a rematch with Marciano and thought he was offered the other matches by the IBC only because they were trying to knock him out of "his rightful shot at Marciano." Boo Hoo Hoo. Real, confident fighters go out and prove they deserve their shot by beating dangerous fighters to force a showdown with a champion."* -- Chuck Hasson Boxing Historian and Philly Boxing Founder
Due to Joe Louis not having the punch to bother Marciano, Joe was never in the fight. Louis was devoid of everything in his offensive arsenal. Joe’s speed and power were just a memory. His accuracy and timing were long gone and his reflexes were no longer instinctive. Joe had nothing left to neutralize Rocky. Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, Marciano was just entering his prime....Prime for prime it’s an entirely different story. Marciano would have had to deal with Louis’s explosive and hard jab, set-up uppercuts, finishing hooks and right hands. Rocky would have carried the fight to Joe, and instead of meeting him at center ring and trading, Louis would have inched back and countered Marciano and looked to fight him on the inside with his back to the ropes. Louis needed little room to punch and could get off in tight quarters, he would have been able to punch inside and beat Marciano's round punches to the mark all night.
Joe Louis was buried in Arlington National cemetery with full military honors. Joe was a hero unlike Rocky who was dishonorably discharged for felony assault and robbery.
Rocky Marciano's legacy is not that he was just undefeated, but how he was undefeated. He overcame cuts, knockdowns, trailing late in fights, and more. His will is unquestioned. When you look at the greatest Heavyweights to ever reign over the most prestigious title in all of sports, the greats are near-mythical figures that would give everything to win, men that had an indomitable spirit to go along with skill. When you think of guys like that, you think of Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, Holyfield and yes, Rocky Marciano, who undoubtedly etched his name among them. So let the revisionist run their mouths about how he was too short, how he was just a brawler, how his competition was weak etc. In the end, no other Heavyweight champion has ever retired undefeated and I doubt anyone else ever will. The one-man that did it is always standing and his name is Rocky Marciano!
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
Here Here YES!!!
Agree 100 %
Revisionists? As in a man who literally fought marciano and moore saying what rational boxing fans saying (he fought past their prime greats and wore them down in long fights) ?? Thats not revisionism thats reality without the rose tints on
The International Boxing Club Of New York had links to organized crime; most notably through Italian Mafia soldier Frankie Carbo, the most powerful promoter in boxing. *“Carbo,”* Russell Sullivan explains, *“established a well-organized centralized system of control over boxing. The system featured scores of managers who operated as front men for Carbo. Once a promising fighter arrived on the scene, one of Carbo’s managers would muscle in on his ownership. Fear and violence were the linchpins of Carbo’s system and the bedrock of his power. Directly or indirectly, he controlled scores of judges, officials, managers, promoters, and fighters. His power became such that no big match was made or title awarded without his acquiescence. Both Walcott and Charles had mobbed managers, Walcott one Nick Bocchicchio and Charles a pair named Tom Tennas and Jacob Mintz. You did as they told you and you got the matches that you needed to advance into contender ranks."*
Wonderful history from a gentleman warrior.
Master of " the sweet science "
Undefeated. Unbeatable. The greatest, ever. That was Rocky Marciano (1923-1969), the only Heavyweight in boxing history who ended his career with no defeats: 49 fights won, including 43 by knockout. Rocky bludgeoned every top Heavyweight of his era before leaving professional boxing in 1956.
In Undefeated: Rocky Marciano - The Fighter Who Refused to Lose By Everett Skehan, it is documented that Rocky refused to take phone calls in camp. He didn’t want radios, (It was before the widespread use of television) or newspapers, or discussions about anything except boxing and training. He had no contact with his family or anyone in the outside world. He was there solely to train from before sunup to after sunset.
Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning.
In camp, he would run in the morning, and fast walk another 10 miles at night.
He also did wind sprints during the day. He liked to run short distances, a couple of hundred yards, up a hill in training as fast as he could, and then run back down facing backwards. And then he repeated over and over until he was exhausted.
He used a speed bag but not like anyone else does or did, he would hit it with hooks and slow power shots to work on his accuracy.
He trained using a custom made 300 pound heavy bag.
He would power clean a giant rock and toss it forward with both hands (the rock weighed over a hundred pounds).
He did crunches that combined kicking a heavy medicine ball out to the trainer
He believed in calisthenics, and did up to several hours worth in addition to everything else.
Several days a week Rocky went shoulder deep in a swimming pool and threw hundreds of underwater punches for up to an hour.
And then, in the late afternoon, Rocky would spar.
Rocky literally trained every day from before sunup, to after sundown. So he could do 15 rounds.
No science based training today could match Rocky’s old time regimen for intensity, or his old time trainer, Charlie Goldman for knowledge. There isn’t a trainer today capable of taking Rocky Marciano and making him undisputed champion.
There is a price for that toughness and peerless conditioning. Rocky had to train year round, and he trained in between fights harder than most fighters train in camp.
Rocky said after the Lester amateur fight: "I will never be outworked again.”
And he wasn’t.
Rocky Marciano summed up his philosophy simply:
“Greatness is getting up when you go down, and keeping on when you think you can’t. Greatness is winning when nobody thinks you will, or fighting on when you know you are going to lose, but you can’t give up.”
And that will, that ferocious desire to win, those hours, days, months, 8 straight years of training every day, is what made Rocky Marciano a Champion when he was always smaller, usually slower, and with less reach.
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton that was because he was carefully managed and retired at 32, much younger than other greats. Actually, the biggest names on Rocky's resume are all over the age of 32. Just a fact!
Gem of an interview. Listening to Mr Lowry gave me Great boxing history insight
William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness and some numbness in his limbs as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
*"The Heavyweight version of Charles,”* Dettloff sums up, *“would get a lot of good work done. But on the best day of his life, he was no more a Heavyweight than Ray Robinson. He never would be as good there as he was at light heavy and below.”* -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015
*"Ezzard was intentionally ducked by champions in both the middleweight and light heavyweight divisions. As a result, Charles was forced into the 175 lb Heavyweight division despite never being a true Heavyweight."* -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015
*"Charles lost the title to Walcott in 1951. Ailing Charles tried to regain the Heavyweight title three times, losing once to Walcott in 1952 and twice to Marciano in 1954. Charles a spent force by that time, who, from 1951 on was suffering from the symptoms of ALS."* -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015
Rocky fans always talk about Charles being only 33 when he fought Rocky but what they always fail to mention is that Charles was the #2 ranked middleweight in the world when he was only 19 years old. Charles had already been through numerous wars (trauma) throughout the entire 1940s. Charles fought Moore 3 times, Bivins 4 times, Maxim 5 times, etcetera.
Low-power (42% KO's) middleweight/light heavyweight Charles already had 95 fights by the time he faced Rocky. Imagine if the roles were reversed and Rocky had those 95 fights?
41 year old middleweight/light heavyweight Moore already had 178 fights by the time he faced Rocky. Imagine if the roles were reversed and Rocky was 41 with 178 fights? *Per family request Moore's birthdate was recently changed at Wikipedia to 1913. Moore was factual 41 when he fought Rocky!!!*
*Charles/Moore didn't even need to fight Rocky!!! They still would have been entered into the Hall of Fame for what they already accomplished in the middleweight and light heavyweight divisions!!! Little Rocky fights a bunch of has-been light heavyweights and his legacy ends up being the Greatest Heavyweight that ever lived. What a Joke!!!*
Ezzard Charles said he first noticed the ailment in 1951, *"after a guy hit me, I didn't seem to be able to get away,"* he recalled, *"I didn't have the same coordination."* Ezzard himself, his family, Lou Duva, Burt Sugar, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Brown, Ferrera and Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. --'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' by William Dettloff
*There's no room for debate, too many reputable witnesses.*
*(Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking lived with ALS for 55 years).*
*Any questions about the validity then I'd suggest filing defamation lawsuits against Ezzard, his family, all his trainers, Duva, Sugar, and biographer William Dettloff.*
Where does everyone get their information about WWI & WWII? From numerous History books. Where does everyone get their information about Marciano? From biographies and witnesses testimony. Where does everyone get their information about Charles? From his biography and witnesses testimony. Okay then how can anyone say Charles did 'Not' have symptoms of ALS (1951) long before he fought Marciano in 1954 if they've never read *Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life by William Dettloff?*
WOW, Tiger Ted is sharp and doesn't really show signs of any boxing related cognitive decline, after all the fights he had. He was a better fighter then his record indicated ! RIP
Ted was my trainer at the greater Norwalk boxing association.He was a firm believer in defense and counter punching off a slip or parrying punches and countering and that’s what he taught when we fought in shows we always looked polished win or lose . He truly cared about us and would defend us against the promoters and other trainers favoring their guys . In western Massachusetts at the Holyoke golden gloves tournament in the mid 80’s a trainer from Hartford named Johnny Duke was playing games and Ted was gonna whoop his ass he like I said always had our best interest at heart . He was an honest good hard working man and a mentor in my life .
In the little ring in the old building behind the YMCA?
@@FrankParady No it was on the top floor of the old Marvin school off Gregory Boulevard in Norwalk
All the sportswriters and fans in attendance said Ted Lowry beat Marciano their 1st fight. The books below discuss Lowry beating Marciano:
1. Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times - by Russell Sullivan
2. Tiger Ted Lowry by the Tale - by Robert Mladinich
3. Remembering Ted Lowry, A Piece Of The Rock And War Hero - by Lennie Grimaldi
4. The Providence Journal - by Michael J. Thomas wrote, "Marciano did not win the fight. This reporter gave it to Lowry, six rounds to four.”
Well people say roland lastarza beat Marciano the first time.
Thanks!
There are some who never give up. There is nothing to do, they do not go down. And if they go down, they get up. You will always find them before you, maybe staggering, blood-filled, ready to step on. Sport teaches you cannot always win... They do not care, do not believe that, and always win: with a broken nose, with closed eye, a blood-red mouth. Rocky was like this. Rough, wild, fearless. His straight right punch was equivalent to a 9th grade richter. His left hook punch was an electroshock. He was not there to lose. An invincible.
In Undefeated: Rocky Marciano - The Fighter Who Refused to Lose By Everett Skehan, it is documented that Rocky refused to take phone calls in camp. He didn’t want radios, (It was before the widespread use of television) or newspapers, or discussions about anything except boxing and training. He had no contact with his family or anyone in the outside world. He was there solely to train from before sunup to after sunset.
Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning.
In camp, he would run in the morning, and fast-walk another 10 miles at night.
He also did wind sprints during the day. He liked to run short distances, a couple of hundred yards, up a hill in training as fast as he could, and then run back down facing backwards. And then he repeated over and over until he was exhausted.
He used a speed bag but not like anyone else does or did, he would hit it with hooks and slow power shots to work on his accuracy.
He trained using a custom made 300 pound heavy bag.
He would power clean a giant rock and toss it forward with both hands (the rock weighed over a hundred pounds).
He did crunches that combined kicking a heavy medicine ball out to the trainer
He believed in calisthenics, and did up to several hours worth in addition to everything else.
Several days a week Rocky went shoulder deep in a swimming pool and threw hundreds of underwater punches for up to an hour.
And then, in the late afternoon, Rocky would spar.
Rocky literally trained every day from before sunup, to after sundown. So he could do 15 rounds.
No science based training today could match Rocky’s old time regimen for intensity, or his old time trainer, Charlie Goldman for knowledge. There isn’t a trainer today capable of taking Rocky Marciano and making him an undisputed champion.
There is a price for that toughness and peerless conditioning. Rocky had to train year round, and he trained in between fights harder than most fighters train in camp.
Rocky said after the Lester amateur fight: "I will never be outworked again.”
And he wasn’t.
Rocky Marciano summed up his philosophy simply:
“Greatness is getting up when you go down, and keeping on when you think you can’t. Greatness is winning when nobody thinks you will, or fighting on when you know you are going to lose, but you can’t give up.”
And that will, that ferocious desire to win, those hours, days, months, 8 straight years of training every day, is what made Rocky Marciano a Champion when he was always smaller, usually slower, and with less reach.
Rocky came at the right time. WWII Korea, smallest and weakest Heavyweight division in boxing history. Louis, Walcott, Charles and Moore had already been boxing pro for ((74)) years before facing Rocky, that's SEVENTY FOUR YEARS people!!! Little Rocky's horseshirt resume cannot be denied.
Ali said Shavers was the hardest puncher. Foreman said Lyle was the hardest puncher. Archie Moore rated Sheppard and Durelle as the hardest punchers. Emanuel Steward rated Wladimir and Lennox as the hardest punchers.
Joseph Parker and Deontay Wilder said 285 lb Big Bang Zhang was the hardest puncher. Andy Ruiz rated 305 lb Miller as the hardest puncher. Jared Anderson said 285 lb Bakole's punching power was unbelievable.
The day after Marciano Quit boxing he abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands. *He also started his loansharking business--(psychosis and other symptoms he suffered)--@ 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI*
Great Interview
A true Tiger
I'm a huge rocky fan so this was gold thanks for uploading
That was a great job. Really excellent interview
The epitome of class!! ❤
This guy had over 60 fights and still has his marbles. Listening to him you might not even know he was a fighter.
He had to be a very tough guy.
he had 148 fights and lost almost half of them, but the best part is the sport didn't get the best of him, seemed just fine.
Tiger Ted wish I could shake your hand, Sir.
Amazing interview.
Excellent interview w/Ted Lowry, an honest man with a sharp mind. God Bless him!
EXCELLENT!
Thanks for the video, THROWBACK MEDIA
Thank you
wow this is gold
Thank you
Mr. Lowry is a treasure. Thank you and please share more from this great person's experiences.
A life well lived.
R.I.P Mr Lowry! An amazing interview! Genuinely had smiling ear to ear listening to his stories, and it's great to see a fighter in such wonderful condition at his age!
What a class act ! Wonderful gentleman all respect and love to Tiger Ted !!!
AWESOME INTERVIEW ! GOD BLESS TIGER ! GOD REST ROCKY !
What a well spoken, tough fighter.
I'd never heard of Tiger Ted Lowry until this video popped up on my feed, so I had to do some research. This gentleman was one hell of a fighter, and just the fact he went the distance with Marchiano TWICE is enough for me. Kudos to Throwback Media for this great interview.
Thank you
Thankyou sir....
For fighting the " Good " fight for yourself and our nation.
This was tremendous. True Gem.
Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward a proven boxing genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
Carmine Vingo's *F-LEVEL* opponents:
*1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
*2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
*3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
*4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL*
*5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL and Vingo LOSES!!!*
*6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
*7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
*8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL*
*9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
*11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
*12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
*14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL*
*16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought ((4)) opponents TWICE within 16 bouts)*
*17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(Vingo actually fights this 0-0-0 debuting amateur just before facing Rocky!!!)*
*18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses. Rocky said, *"It so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* - Rocky @ The Marciano Tapes #6
Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."*
So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo's hand. I was always mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old 6' 4' 220 lb Superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight Champion of the World but in reality he was a 6' 0 188 lb *F-LEVEL-BUM* that was set-up for slaughter!!!
*Both LaStarza and Marciano's resumes are practically identical to Vingo's!!! Marciano's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's. Don't believe? Then do the research on Rocky's opponents one at a time. It's easy to do. Start at the bottom (BoxRec) with Rocky's first opponent Lee Epperson and slowly work towards the top. Just push on Lee Epperson' name and it'll automatically take you to Lee Epperson' entire career. See what's happening folks is the Marciano family is controlling everything said about Rocky at both Wikipedia and BoxRec. But all that's about to change! It's all gonna go back to it's original format from 10 to 15 years ago because I SAVED EVERYTHING!!!*
God has blessed tiger Ted, to have gone through the chit he went through and have the great attitude he has this man is amazing...
Wow, what a great human being, Mr. Lowry, and what a pleasure to have see this video.
“Clay gets better each time you see him. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. He puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I’ve ever seen." - *@ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan*
Most people openly admit that the versions of Charles, Moore and Walcott that he fought were far from prime (The Joe Louis and Lee Savold fights really doesn't even deserve to be brought up). So it isn't the quality of Rocky's competition that his reputation is based on among the greats, it is that famous record 49-0. If Rocky's 49-0 record is the basis of his greatness then the fighters on that record should be the very best that were available. But by my reckoning that is the furthest thing from the truth. Infact when you look at the highest ranked fighters of the era, and then you look at his record, it's scandalous how many he didn't fight. Many of the ones he DID choose to fight are just as scandalous.
Top fighters Marciano definitely should have fought that he didn't.
*1)* Harold Johnson
*2)* Oakland Billy Smith
*3)* Yolande Pompey
*4)* Curtis Hatchetman Sheppherd
*5)* Clarence Henry
*6)* Joey Maxim
*7)* Marty Marshall
*8)* Bob Satterfield
*9)* Jimmy Bivins
*10)* Lloyd Marshall
*11)* Nino Valdes
Those are just the definites, we could add many other names (like Tommy Jackson, Dan Bucceroni or even Bob Baker) that while not as good, are definitely better than some of the guys he DID fight that make up that "legendary" record. Guys like these;
Lee Epperson (Career Record 0-1)
Jimmy Weeks (Career Record 0-1)
Gilbert Cardone (Career Record 0-3)
John Edwards (Career Record 1-2)
Bill Hardeman (Career Record 1-7)
Humphrey Jackson (Career Record 4-3)
Johnnie Pretzie (Career Record 10-14)
Bob Jefferson (Career Record 3-10)
Gilley Ferron (Career Record 4-13)
Tommy DiGiorgio (Career Record 9-15)
Artie Donato (Career Record 7-13)
Harry Haft (Career Record 12-7)
James Connoly (Career Record 12-9)
Harry Bilazarian (Career Record 15-12)
Joe Dominic (Career Record 18-12)
Don Mogard (Career Record 20-16)
Jimmy Walls (Career Record 21-41)
Eldridge Eatman (Career Record 22-21) according to BoxRec and the Providence Journal, *"Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round and Eatman went down, THOUGH IT DIDN'T APPEAR HE WAS HIT"* Not only did Eldridge take a-dive vs. Rocky but he had just lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Why would a 26-0 boxer fight an F-LEVEL diver who had just lost 8 fights? It's clear as day Mafia Boss Carbo and underboss Al Weill cherry picked and padded Rocky's resume!
Marciano's 32nd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Keene Simmons who had a career 9 wins 22 losses.
Marciano's 33rd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell who had a career 7 wins 16 losses. *(Harold had just lost 10 fights in a row before diving against Rocky)*
Marciano's 34th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Art Henri who had a career 18 wins 29 losses.
Marciano's 35th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate who had a career 12 wins 16 losses.
Immediately *((same day))* after 170-lb diver Eddie Ross was supposedly KO'd by Marciano he drove from Rhode Island Providence to Quebec City Quebec -- 8 hr 15 min 465.9 mi via I-93 N inorder to fight 160-lb Billy Sparks.. ( *"Amazing recovery by Eddie Ross after being KO'd by Rocky Marciano the previous day."* --BoxRec and Providence Journal ) Inspect Eddie's resume, it's hilarious!
None of these guys beat anyone of note! Many of these guys he even fought pretty far into his career when there were obviously alternatives. In light of this should this 49-0 record be as revered as it is to some?
@@Rowdy-r2d2-John.3.16 You’ll need to explain the knockout in the first Walcott fight. The punch looked legit to me, as was Walcott’s reaction to it. And the Matthews fight. The Layne fight. The Louis fight. No matter how old Louis was, he was HIT by pile driving punches. Marciano could hit, could take it, and was always in condition. It was enough for what he did, as long as it lasted. His style wouldn’t allow for a long career. Look at Frazier after the first Ali fight. All of that face-first take-three-to-land-one plunging because of your pipsqueak height and T-Rex arms takes a lot more out of you than standing off and pot-shotting with your 80-inch reach while doing everything but running to avoid being hit.
@@carspiv point Ezzard couldn t knock Louis out also ROCKY had 49 pro fights Frazier had 36
@@sorshiaemms5959 Marciano fought mostly absolute stiffs and didn’t fight a rated opponent until his 36th fight. There wasn’t the big money for anyone outside the top 2 or 3 fighters in the division and fighters had to fight often to earn any kind of living. Frazier won the undisputed title in his 25th fight; Marciano was KOing Carmine Vingo, the third bout on a 5-bout card at MSG. It wasn’t even a semifinal bout.
How about this: Marciano’s 1st listed pro fight was followed by a 16 MONTH GAP before his 2nd listed pro fight. What was he doing during that GAP?
Well, it appears that he had NINE 3-round AMATEUR fights, LOSING one to Coley Wallace! So was Marciano REALLY undefeated?
Well my friend, there are many rocky Haters out there and at my age (80) I have heard most all of them but You take the Cake! You have gone so far above them all in doing all this research, time and effort to state your case! I don't mean to put you down but if one is to believe your Thesis of Rocky's Career, His name should be removed from the Boxing HOF! NOT!
After his brilliant but erratic welterweight, Vince Foster, had been killed in an auto accident, Jack Hurley, the tall, thin, caustic manager and promoter who has a genius for developing mediocre fighters into rich ones, began snooping around for another boxer. Into his office one day in 1949 walked a skinny middleweight named Harry (Kid) Matthews, who had won 67 out of 70 fights on the West Coast, had been fighting for 12 years and had succeeded only in getting deep into debt. Hurley agreed to take him on for his usual 50%. Matthews screamed in anguish. "Listen, young man," said Hurley, "you've been boxing for 12 years and you've made exactly nothing. Now, 50% of nothing is nothing. You don't know how lucky you are. What is happening is that you are getting 50% of me."
Hurley watched his new gladiator work out and was appalled. "He got all his ideas from amateurs. It's a wonder he hadn't been seriously hurt. His idea of how to defend himself was to grab and run. That's all he knew. He didn't even know how to eat. He'd eat two meals a day."
"But oh, he was such a bad fighter. He couldn't punch, he couldn't take a punch. He was an agony fighter. Looking at a fighter that can't punch is like kissing your mother-in-law."
Hurley brought Matthews along slowly and one night put him into the ring with a carefully selected opponent who had had only 12 fights and was too light to cope with Matthews. "I figured Matthews would make his name overnight," says Hurley. "He figured to knock the kid out easy. But it went 10 rounds and nobody got hit, although Matthews wins the decision. The next day Matthews comes into the office, and he says, 'How did you like the fight?'
"I says, 'What fight?'
"He says, 'Last night.'
"I says, 'Harry, that was the most disgraceful thing I ever saw. If you and that kid were to go down to the street corner right now and go through the same antics, that traffic cop wouldn't even come over and break it up.' "
But Hurley has never needed a superfighter; all he needed now was a property, and Matthews, game and willing to learn, was it. The two of them set up shop in Seattle, and Hurley began the great campaign. Traveling the Northwest like a couple of drummers, the soft-punching, glass-chinned Matthews reeled off a dazzling skein of 35 consecutive wins. Hurley explains in detail how the feat was accomplished:
*"I made sure he didn't fight any great fighters. I picked 'em mostly by their styles, guys that had styles just right for Matthews. So all his fights appeared to be sensational."*
written by JACK OLSEN MAY 1961
(And to think little cruiser Rocky had to fight extra little Matthews in a bout that served as a final eliminator for a shot at the 'Heavyweight' Championship of the World. Smallest and worst Heavyweight division in boxing history.
Great! Very great interview.
Great interview. Lowry is a gentleman 100 times over. I have a taped interview of Ted Lowry where he discusses many of his fights including the Marciano, Moore, Maxim, and Tiger Jack Fox fights. I asked him who was the better fighter Moore or Fox? His answer was: “I would have to say Fox.”
He spoke much about his military career when I interviewed him.
Fox beat Walcott twice.
*C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott lost to Middleweights Mays ,, Palmer ,, Ketchell ,, and to Light heavyweights Charles x2 ,, Fox x2 ,, Maxim ,, Brothers ,, Taylor.. In summary Walcott consistently lost to Middleweights and Light heavyweights!!! Overall he lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times!!!*
*C-LEVEL Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott's 20 losses:*
*1.* ln 1930 Walcott LOST to 159 lb Palmer. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.* Little Rocky was only *(7)* years old.
*2.* In 1930 Walcott LOST to 158 lb Carl Mays. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*3.* In 1933 Walcott LOST to 177 lb Henry Taylor. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*4.* In 1936 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 191 lb Al Ettore.
*5.* In 1936 Walcott LOST to 179 lb Billy Ketchell. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*6.* In 1937 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 178 lb Tiger Jack Fox. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*7.* In 1937 Walcott LOST to 174 lb George Brothers. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*8.* In 1938 Walcott LOST to 184 lb Tiger Jack Fox AGAIN. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*9.* In 1938 Walcott LOST to 197 lb Roy Lazer.
*10.* In 1940 Walcott was horribly *(KO'd)* and sent into RETIREMENT for *(4½)* years by 256 lb Super Heavyweight Abe Simon. *"Simon unleashed a tremendous right @ **2:32** into the sixth causing the knockout. Walcott didn't move as he was counted out."* Rocky himself said, "Walcott was only 90%" @ The Marciano Tapes #3
*11.* In 1945 Walcott LOST to 204 lb Johnny Allen who had more losses than wins.
*12.* In 1946 Walcott LOST to 179 lb Joey Maxim. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*13.* In 1946 Walcott LOST to 191 lb Elmer Ray.
*14.* In 1947 Walcott LOST to overweight 212 lb Joe Louis.
*15.* In 1948 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 213 lb Joe Louis. Louis barely got through the Journeyman so he announced his retirement March 1, 1949. Louis's speed was just a memory and his reflexes were no longer instinctive.
*16.* In 1949 Walcott LOST to 181 lb light heavyweight Ezzard Charles. This fight was for the *"vacant-paper"* Heavyweight title. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*17.* In 1950 Walcott LOST to 192 lb *one dimensional C-LEVEL* Rex Layne.
*18.* In 1951 Walcott LOST to 185 lb Ezzard Charles AGAIN. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*19.* In 1952 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 184 lb Rocky Marciano. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*20.* In 1953 Walcott was *(KO'd)* by 184 lb Rocky Marciano AGAIN. *WHERE'S THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.*
*IT IS OUT OF THE QUESTION THAT WALCOTT WAS IN HIS PRIME vs MARCIANO BECAUSE IT'S SCIENTIFICALLY AND MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE AND JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY HE WAS DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!!*
*There are few Heavyweight champions in the history of boxing that are better known for their losses than their wins. Walcott's high profile losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins. In his overall career Walcott had 49 wins 20 losses and was KO'd 6 times. Based on these less than impressive stats it is difficult to consider him anymore than a good Journeyman. The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5½) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division must have been at this time. Had Walcott been fighting in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000's there is no way in hell he would have been granted this many opportunities after losing so many title attempts. Walcott should at best be remembered Not as a great Heavyweight champion, but a good C-LEVEL Journeyman.*
Walcott vs. Louis 1 in 1947 the press criticized Walcott. Every sports reporter claimed that Jersey Joe was at least 38 years old. Others said he was older. Sportswriters dubbed him 'Pappy', 'elderly', 'ancient', and 'aging' were commonly used to describe Walcott. Since Walcott was born at home and not in a hospital he could not prove his age with a birth certificate that would have been filed when he was born. Walcott had to have a birth certificate for the different state boxing commission's inorder to continue boxing. Needless to say he haphazardly created and filed a birth certificate in 1936 when he was in his mid-twenties at the Camden Bureau of Vital Statistics. *It's all there in Walcott's biography Chapter 9 page 71.* If Walcott was 38 when he fought Louis in 1947 wouldn't that put him in his forties vs. Marciano in 1952? It makes perfect sense when ya study Walcott's facial features. Walcott's senior citizen legs were washed, that's why he got trapped against the ropes with *"Both Hands Down"* during the 13th. Hey, it happens to us all. Nobody escapes father time!
Joe Louis is widely regarded as one of the greatest and most influential boxers of all time. He reigned as the world heavyweight champion from 1937 until his temporary retirement in 1949. He was victorious in 25 consecutive title defenses, a record for all weight classes. Louis had the longest single reign as champion of any boxer in history. Marciano could only dream of defending the title 25 times like Joe Louis did much less come back for more at age 37.
Dude sounds fine for all his battles.
Immense difference between him and a 30 year old MMA prospect.
Joe Louis was buried in Arlington National cemetery with full military honors. Joe was a hero unlike Rocky who was dishonorably discharged for felony assault and robbery.
The majority wanted Joe Louis to win, that's why he was favored to win. They wanted Joe to win because they knew what Rocco Francis Marchegiano represented. Every day hard working people were terrified of the Sicilian's aka Italians who controlled the entire east coast.
Great interview, great man. Respect
This is awesome!!!
What a nice guy with a big heart!
He was a high-school dropout who worked a series of dead-end jobs - delivering coal, laboring in factories making candy, beverages, and shoes, slinging hash in a diner, digging ditches, clearing land, and fixing sidewalks. But Marciano had two world-class skills. He could absorb a frightful beating, and he could knock men out cold. “I was a nobody,” he was fond of saying. “In the ring, I became a somebody."
It's been 70 years and Marciano's 49-0 with 43 knockouts is chiseled into 'Granite' for eternity regardless what folks write, say or think.
Marciano boarded a small Cessna 172 with pilot Glenn Belz, and Frank Farrell, the son of Louis Thomas Fratto, born Luigi Tommaso Giuseppe Fratto, also known as "Lew Farrell" and "Cock-eyed", an American labor racketeer and organized crime figure in Chicago, Illinois, and Des Moines, Iowa, from the 1930s to his death in 1967. A massive storm system challenged Belz's relative inexperience (231 hours of total flight time) as the plane flew west from Chicago over Iowa. Trying to land at a small airfield outside Newton, Belz crashed the plane into a tree about two miles short of the intended runway. On August 31, 1969, all aboard, including Marciano, died on impact. It was all Rocky's fault, he pressured the amateur pilot into flying even though he knew they were headed towards severe thunderstorms. Why? What was so important in Des Moines? His business was loansharking and he was in a hurry to collect 35K which is equivalent to 293K today. He was in a hurry because he didn't want to be late to his birthday (Sept. 1st) party the next day in Florida.
During his retirement speech, and during his appearance on the Ed Sullivan show Rocky said, *"I want to spend more time with my family."* Instead, he immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands and left them penniless, *@ THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Aug 23, 1993*
Marciano would break a payphone clean off the wall just to retrieve his 10 cents even though he had 30K in his pocket. He was half a bubble off plumb with severe obsessive-compulsive personality disorder *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.*
The Rock was highly Motivated....He wanted to get his Dad outta the Shoe Factory!🤔😡
What a Great man ❤❤❤❤
Legend
Don't get me wrong I love all these guys.i idolized guys like this .I wanted to be like them.great story from a tough and smart man
Priceless
Floyd Patterson wrote in Victory Over Myself:
*“I loved Cus, but he was not going to let me fight the best because he was afraid I was going to lose. I decided a Champion had to face everyone, even if he loses, and I felt better despite the losses."*
Ironically, even though he lost to Liston and never regained the title, he is still ranked in the top 20 heavyweights of all time precisely because he fired Cus, and fought real contenders, rolling up a record worthy of the Hall of Fame.
After he fired Cus, Floyd faced:
Muhammad Ali
Sonny Liston
Eddie Machen
Henry Cooper
Jimmy Ellis
Oscar Bonavena
Jerry Quarry
George Chuvalo
*"I decided a Champion had to face everyone, even if he loses."* - Floyd Patterson (SOMETHING ROCKY MARCIANO NEVER DID)
*Why did Rocky "UP-N-QUIT" during his prime after only (7) years while everyone else was fighting (15) to (25) years? Patterson fought from 1952 to 1972. Imagine Rocky having a normal 20 year career from 1948 to 1968? He woulda had to face Cleveland, Johansson, Patterson, Liston, Terrell, Frazier, Chuvalo, Quarry, Machen, Folley, Bonavena, Ellis, Jones, Copper, Miteff, and Mildenberger just to name a few.*
*For Pete's sake Marciano was only 31 his last fight and to make matters even worse his last fight had to be against a 41 year old light heavyweight named Archie Moore born "1913" wikipedia!*
*Little Marciano ducked Marty Marshall, Johnson, Maxim, Pompey, Bivins, Satterfield, Valdez, Lloyd Marshall, Oakland Billy Smith, Clarence Henry, Curtis "Hatchetman" Sheppard, Jackson, Bucceroni and Baker just to name a few. Don't fight any that could beat us then leave before the young exposes us.*
Marciano was a very well managed fighter....If he had continued fighting into his 30s he would have had a few losses on his record...
@@brianvesta Rocky would have beaten them all. Rocky still wanted to have a brain left when he got older.
Professional boxing is entertainment, and the people promoting and managing fights want to make money.
When I watch modern era bouts, the really tough fights I get a certain satisfaction knowing both fighters made a lot of money for the fight. So if Marciano faced the top contenders when he was #1, there would have been less money for the fighters who should get a healthy portion of the proceeds .
@@jamest681 *so what did little Rocky do immediately after he retired? He abandoned his kids and wife, Barbara, to sleep with thousands and left them penniless,, not to mention he immediately went into loansharking with all his cousins. Keep making excuses hahahaha* 😂
Rocky would have beat the brakes off of Patterson
Wow 87 years old..This man is amazing, sharp as a tack and still going strong.Many more years and good luck to you Sir...
Lowry jac to be be a very tough and savvy fighter to go the distance with Marciano twice!!! 🤜💥💯
That was a great interview, with an extraordinary person.
What a fantastic man. Thank you for your service too! 🇺🇸
Fantastic Interview....great video of the Great Tiger Ted Lowry, Truly an American Icon! Keep rockin.
Tiger Ted Lowry,Respect to you Sir! Articulate,honest and humble✌️🥊
I had the honor of interviewing and training with "Tiger" Ted!!!! He's mentioned in the book "Triple Nickles" about his unit, the 555th Para Battalion, Smoke Jumpers.... great trainer, soldier, boxer, man!!! RIP!
Great video. I'm from Rhode Island and the few OG's that saw Rocky vs Lowry say Ted won the first one. Thanks for the insight
Mr. Mladinich this was a great interview - Mr. Tiger is a very good teller of his experiences. Hope the interview was much longer :( but Thank you.
GREAT interview ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ !
Awesome!
Really cool to listen to these guys, almost from another world.
He looks very sharp, and healthy.
I really hope that these men have a good pension, health care and decent safe place to call home.
These are the Senior Citizens of our society, and that should have some respect attached to it.
Sad!!peace brother✌🏾🙏🏾
Who's seen Moore in his Prime? Not when he was overweight and 41 vs Rocky in 1955 but his "Real Prime" in 1940? He had muscle on top of muscle and weighed 159. He wasn't weight drained, he was 27 and Prime!!! It's easy to see, simply type; *"'Earliest Footage of Archie Moore vs Ron Richards 1940"'*
Moore weighed 148 in 1935. Moore never weighed more than 165 until 1944. That's 9 years at Middleweight. He finally attained the 160 to 175 lb Light heavyweight title after *(17)* years in 1952 and held that belt until 1962. *So Moore was moonlighting (gain 5 to 15 lbs, lose 5 to 15 lbs) the 175 lb Heavyweight division for 10 years.*
*Moore was Awesome in the Middleweight and Light heavyweight divisions but the truth is Low-Power 171/173 lb Light heavyweight Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Rocky smashed him. Every time Moore stepped-up in competition he got KO'd!!!*
Only reason Charles won the Heavyweight title is bcz Louis retired, leaving 181 lb Low-Power Light heavyweight Charles and 195 lb C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott to fight for his vacated title. *What happened next? A fresh 184 lb Rocky comes along and cleans up the left over scraps and residue from ring-worn and washed has-been's.*
*The 1940's was obviously Moore's Prime years, same principal with Charles/Walcott. Louis' prime was during the late 1930's. Anyone that thinks these guys were Prime vs Rocky is a FOOL!!!*
Generally, the point in his career when a fighter is fighting makes a ton of difference. A killer at one point is often a pushover later on. You see it a zillion times in boxing, and in MMA as well. But like you say, far too many people just go by the names of opponents when looking at a fighter's hit list. On the other hand, you can only fight who is set before you. It's not your fault if you're fighting in a weak era, when the legends of old have become shadows.
Rocky hit him so hard my teeth broke. Good try sonny
Rockys first amateur fight was April 15th 1946 , Rocky had his first professional fight march 17th 1947 he was 24 very late starter ! . Ted lowery what a gentleman and one great boxer god bless you mr lowery .
The only man to go the distance with Rocky twice. It’s a great trivia question!
What a gentleman he is! Many thanks for this interview.
In May of 1950, the IRS finished a full audit of Louis's past returns and announced, that with interest and penalties, he owed the government more than $500,000. Louis had no choice but to return to the ring. The Louis camp negotiated a deal with the IRS under which 36 year old Louis would come out of retirement, with all his net proceeds going to the IRS. After boxing Joe ended up in the pro wrestling circuit and they still took his money. But that gig finished when Cowboy Rocky Lee lunged onto him with both feet, his boots colliding with Louis' torso. The crash cracked three of his ribs. It left him with a cardiac contusion and officially ended his stint as a wrestler. Children used to send him one dollar in the mail. In his biography he said a child walked up and handed him a dime. When Joe was broken physically and mentally the IRS finally stopped collecting. He lived with friends until he died.
Great interview.
A great American man!
What a lovely man he was ,RIP Tiger Ted .🥊
What a privilege to watch this. Godspeed to Tiger Ted.
I understand what he is saying about the second fight being a surprise and he wasn't ready or in shape, but I do hate it when fighters start using if's and why's after a loss. I also understand a fighter has to believe in himself, but excuses never make you look good. He took the fight and back then fighters had to do what they did just to put food on the table. A great fighter always trains and stays ready though and if they don't, they are the only one to blame. Don't get me wrong because I love this guy, and it was a great interview. He can always say he fought Rocky and to me that is a win right there alone. God bless him.
Its not an excuse it is a fact. These tactics are used all the time by the A side fighter and there team. The fans that were not around at the time deserve context and details on the circumstances of the fight.
It happens today with weight clauses where a guy finally gets his big fight, but he's drained for it and fighting in his home town. You can't seriously be blind to that happening on the sport? Its commonplace
That man is 87 years old is looking pretty darn good for being that old. I hope he makes it past 100.
He’s been dead for 14 years
"I didn’t fight Dempsey. But I did fight Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. Some of us might hit as hard but Clay would out punch us in every exchange. Now, when Dempsey was fighting, he stood right over a man he had floored and hit him as he was getting up." - *@ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan*
Thanks for this super interview, always looking out for any of the old school boxers of the past, not many alive now from that era so this is a gem. Mr Lowry was one of many of that time who was world class but I guess didn’t have the top managers that get you a title shot. It’s something special to have fought Marciano twice and go the distance in both, no other fighters managed that. To me Marciano is one of the all time greats, others can criticise but the he had something that made him special, pure determination to win. Sure he had his breaks with fortunate points wins and was well managed, but show me any other boxer that didn’t have the same in their careers. Ok he fought boxers past their best but they were still the best out there at the time, both Charles and Moore got their shot at Marciano because they beat Slatterfield and Valdes in eliminators. There is of coarse others that Marciano’s managers may of avoided , but no boxer with an unbeaten record or long unbeaten rung hadn’t had the same career protection at some point. If Marciano’s record is overrated because he avoided other top fighters at the time or boxers with poor records then for comparison SRR record is overrated, he too fought lots of fighters with poor records and he never fought any of the murderers row boxers (Apart from Tiger Wade I believe, and depending on what you believe Wade was paid off) Robinson never wanted to go near Charley Burley. I’m not belittling SRR, to me he was the perfect boxer, had everything, I’m just using it as an example. And any case, if some fighters did have more losses than wins, in that era it didn’t mean they weren’t good boxers, they probably just didn’t have good management. In recent years the best example is Emmanuel Augustus, his record isn’t great but he is to me one of the best boxers never to get a title shot, Floyd always maintained he was the best boxer he ever fought. Going back to Marciano, to me he accomplishments were incredible, to think he didn’t start boxing until his twenties, had limited natural boxing techniques, through punches off balance, his feet would get tangled up, but he developed into one of the greats, that’s why I rank his trainer Charley Goldman as one of the greatest trainers, he said Rocky couldn’t fight a lick, but he had incredible heart and determination. Also, his traing camps were legendary tough and long, as Tiger Lowry said, Marciano had incredible conditioning. Anyway, sorry for the long rant, I’m going to watch this video again and again. 👏🥊 P.S, what a sobering story regarding his bus journey during his service years, and rest room scene regarding a Blackman being removed from the rest room, the racist hippocracy at that time in the states is a awakening call of how this sort of terrible times should not be forgotten, and the fight should still go on to abolish any prejudice eventually, hopefully. Being from the UK, I’m fascinated by American working class history. I would recommend a book by Howard Zinn called the people’s history of the United States, excellent reading.✊
What a beautiful cool dude. Disgusting he was treated like that while he serves his country , but he came out fully intact .
AMAZING guy. What a legend. He won the battle of life .
What a legend and a complete gentleman.
Compare this man at 87 to guys like James Toney and Riddick Bowe in the last 15 years, and this guy had way more fights! Truly incredible
Very lucid, especially for an 87 year-old man.
Wow bless you Ted Lowry, he looks so fresh and speaks so well after boxing in those times.
But one thing, I don't know why any black person would put their life on the line for a country that does not give them any respect, and treat them like trash with their racist attitude.
A person is a person no matter the skin shade, we are all the same, but he is a good man and took it in his stride, I would never have fought any war for such a country, I would go to jail, and take my chances there instead.
How could they give pow's rights, and none for a person fighting for them, just shows the level of hatred they have.
A TOP QUALITY HUMAN BEING. WELL DONE!
A couple weeks before the bout Joe Louis was ordered to visit the white house where Franklin D. Roosevelt told him, "Joe, we need your muscles to beat Germany." Louis later admitted, "I knew i had to get Schmeling good. I had my own personal reasons and the whole damned country was depending on me."
June 22, 1938 with 71,000 people in Yankee Stadium Joe Louis met Max Schmeling and millions of folks around the world was listening by radio in English, German, Spanish and Portuguese. Here in America factories, businesses, families, everyone huddled around radios, all of America stopped for a moment.
Schmeling managed to throw only two punches entire fight. Joe landed blows to his head and body that could knock down a brick wall. Max screamed when Joe literally broke his back. With the world on the precipice of WWII, Louis hammered Hitler's symbol of Aryan supremacy with his 1938 destruction of Germany's Max Schmeling. It is considered among the most important moments in sports history.
God Bless that Man, what a treasure he is!!
I knew Gentlemen like Mr Lowry growing up! Neighbors, Relatives,Church Members...RIP 🏆 CHAMP 🏆
So glad I got to see this documentary. A great fighter, and an even better man. I have to say though, the bus story, as well as the bathroom story, stirred up some anger in me. An American Hero, fighting to defend our country, depicted as being beneath a P.O.W. based on the color of his skin. So fucking wrong.
Thank you for your service. 🇺🇸
Never heard of this guy but would love to see one of his fights.
He lived on till 91 a very good fighter and nice guy r.i.p ted
Ted Lowry said, *"Archie Moore hit me harder than anyone, almost broke my jaw, had to eat soup"* and *"Archie Moore would have beat Rocky in his prime, yep, yep, hate to say it but it's true"* and *"Charles, Moore, Walcott, were on their way out when they fought Rocky."*
Archie Moore challenged Rocky. He was light heavy weight champion at the time. He was in his prime. He reached it at an older age.
@@jamest681 *Per family request Wikipedia recently changed Archie Moore's birthdate to 1913 which makes Archie exactly 41 years of age when he fought little tiny dwarfism-arms.*
Who's seen Moore in his Prime? Not when he was overweight and 41 vs Rocky in 1955 but his "Real Prime" in 1940? He had muscle on top of muscle and weighed 159. He wasn't weight drained, he was 27 and Prime!!! It's easy to see, simply type; *"'Earliest Footage of Archie Moore vs Ron Richards 1940"'*
Moore weighed 148 in 1935. Moore never weighed more than 165 until 1944. That's 9 years at Middleweight. He finally attained the 160 to 175 lb Light heavyweight title after *(17)* years in 1952 and held that belt until 1962. *So Moore was moonlighting (gain 5 to 15 lbs, lose 5 to 15 lbs) the 175 lb Heavyweight division for 10 years.*
*Moore was Awesome in the Middleweight and Light heavyweight divisions but the truth is Low-Power 171/173 lb Light heavyweight Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Rocky smashed him. Every time Moore stepped-up in competition he got KO'd!!!*
Only reason Charles won the Heavyweight title is bcz Louis retired, leaving 181 lb Low-Power Light heavyweight Charles and 195 lb C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott to fight for his vacated title. *What happened next? A fresh 184 lb Rocky comes along and cleans up the left over scraps and residue from ring-worn and washed has-been's.*
*The 1940's was obviously Moore's Prime years, same principal with Charles/Walcott. Louis' prime was during the late 1930's. Anyone that thinks these guys were Prime vs Rocky is a FOOL!!!*
@@jamest681 *What's the next lie gonna be about liar?*
@@Rowdy-r2d2-John.3.16 Archie Moore had many more fights after the Rocky fight. His career had a long way to go. Moore is just a freak of nature as far as longevity. What age gave him was more experience.
Incredible eloquency for an 87 year old ex pro who was in the ring with Moore, Bivins and Marciano. How many kos do these guys have between them? 200+?
Amazing.
Great fighter 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Look at Wikipedia shows that he passed away in 2010. I think this video was in 2007. October,1919-June,2010 age 90. Rest in peace!
“Cassius’ edge in height and reach, his fast hands and legs and the power he puts into his punches, whether from in close or at long range, would be too much for any of the champs I’ve mentioned. All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance. He could do the same thing to Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and me. He might not knock us out but he would beat all of us." - *@ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan*
he fought every week fighters today fight once every two years crazy
“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. Clay would just have to stay away from us for a few rounds and then start throwing his combinations." - *@ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan*
Tiger Ted looked alot like Smokin Joe facially. Great interview ty.