Chaotic Alliance raid not being part of the weekly locked content is such a godsend. I hate seeing PF for unreal and savage die in real-time as you get further away from Tuesday.
The fact that the chaotic raid specifically incentivises running with first-timers makes it feel even more painful that in savage helping first-timers screws them out of loot if you already cleared that week. Let me help people, Yoshi P!
If raids dropped full loot regardless of how many people already cleared, then merc runs would be the default behavior. People would be incentivized to not take anyone who hasn't cleared the week. It means that a group where half the people already cleared means double the chance for loot for the ones who haven't hit loot lock yet. Let's also think about how loot lockouts actually work. You get locked when you roll on loot, not when you just clear a fight. This means for statics, they can coordinate to clear each fight eight times a week. Each run, one person needs on the gear while everyone else just leaves without rolling. Repeat for each person, and in one week a whole group gets full raid gear in one week.
@@idgie534 What else did you mean by saying that it's painful when you screw people out of loot by helping first timers. What else are you hoping for when you say "Let me help people Yoshi P" Following an idea to it's logical conclusion isn't putting words in your mouth, it's what you should have done before the words left your mouth.
@@redgeoblaze3752 There is, in fact, a lot of space between 'anyone at all who has cleared for the week in the party halves the loot' and 'there are no restrictions on loot regardless of who has already cleared that week'.
@@idgie534 Still haven't suggested what you'd do instead. Right now, you get one chest for every four raiders who haven't cleared this lockout. Are you saying that it should still drop full loot if up to three people have already cleared? because that would still cause the issues stated above. Only much less intensely so. The fact that you rejected the idea of all raids dropping full loot means you understand somewhat why the loot limitation system is in place. I just don't understand what you're even asking for.
Really excited about the new content, but I just wish chaotic wasn’t released so late. It looks really fun and repeatable, but it’s so late in the patch that we only get like 2 months with it before 7.2. Spheeeeene extreme does look to be pretty fun though.
The bonus reward systems for the chaotic alliance raid seem like a brilliant idea to bring in people who might otherwise be intimidated by that kind of content. I really hope it works out and that it ends up being implemented in some form in savage, too.
first steps for the relics started in these patches ARR: 2.0 HW: 3.15 SB: 4.25 ShB: 5.25 EW: 6.25 as much of a grind the ARR relics are, the steps were introduced in many updates throughout the entire base game, not just the last half or so of it. so many different types of objectives to do even though they went a bit overboard with a couple of them *cough* books *cough* HW relics while the easiest at least have many multi part steps to each one. idk enough about SB/ShB relics other than SB is all done in Eureka (which in of itself is a grind) and ShB can be mixture of in and out of Bozja? EW relics is just unfortunate that from my understanding is just a poetic grind they need to go back to having at least a somewhat grindy first step (or MANY small objectives) on expansion launch.
I like SHB relic grind, you can get all the things needed for your relic in the Bozja/Zadnor instances if you want to actively grind for it but as long as you have the relevant quests avtive you can also get most of what you need just from playing the game and doing your roulettes. It takes longer this way but it's nice to have the alternative.
There's still the possibility that it wont even come until 7.35. They could easily have the relic be earlier in the expansion, just have the new step involve the Field Operation when that comes eventually.
Man, FRU looks really cool but god I hope they go back and do a Stormblood MSQ ultimate. So much potential there, it doesn't make sense to simply skip it.
Four lords is also sorely missing, all those fight had banger themes and stunning bosses The story could have been a "what if we arrived too late to calm the spirits?" And have them be blind by rage as they fight you
They could even actually insert a Genbu (as a harder version of his battle in Hells’ Lid) and Koryu phase as well, making it clear that because all the spirits are distraught, not only do you have to fight them, Koryu is not dealt with and therefore Koryu has to be battled at full strength instead of being dealt with Soroban.
I'm no hardcore player so I won't be doing FRU, but I am very much excited to watch the world race for it. Also looking forward to Chaotic for the cloud mount if nothing else
i agree with the tomecap increase its so weird that they are so protective about it tbh they should just double the tomecap on odd patches temporarily and when 7.2 comes change it back to 450
Ngl, despite me being really happy with blm as it is now, Im quite excited for those buffs, getting a second leylines charge can add some lil nuance to it rather than just being another 2 minute buff, since it gives you the ability to wait for the right mechanic that you can stay in the same relative area for
@@soldierorsomething this comes 6 weeks after you can weekly upgrade tome gear with the 24 man, OP is correct it is far too late and while we finally have a piece of content with actual meaningful value it is way too late to be relevant
As someone who doesn't do on-content Extremes or higher, the content we're getting works fine enough for me. I certainly would've prefered it if we could already get started with the relic (even if it was just an initial tome step), but I can keep myself busy enough with what we'll be given.
@lecrab8090 I also intend to do weekly alliance raids and hit the Tome cap as much as I can. With how I play the game as a way to do something whilst listening to stuff, it works fine enough (especially with other games to play on the side).
@ that’s what it boils down to. The only way to keep the content from drying up immediately as a non raider is to play like an hour or two a week or just play something else entirely. They charge monthly for that.
I do have to wonder if they plan on unrestricting savage raids when the chaotic raids release. Though they might be making it unrestricted in the chaotic alliance raid just to make it more attractive, which I almost can't blame them for doing that considering how Criterion was dead on arrival last expansion. Still, having an another way of gearing to make alt jobs ultimate ready is fantastic and is a good step towards making that whole process a lot better
the limit this far in is criminal, stopping people from doing the content at this point, i think they just dont want to remove it cos they think it makes people sub longer.
They really should be aiming to have content with comparable lasting value to the exploratory zones on release, not two patches into an expansion's cycle.
pls elaborate on DPS being unkillable. I got Crystal in ranked in the 1st season of it, then stopped since 0 rewards like feast, and i don't see any Godlike melee's in Casual crystal matches.
Seriously, its been bothering me that everyone, even rinon apparently, seems to think the black mage change to ley lines is such an incredible insane omfg level buff. we even saw in the live letter, its still a 2 minute cooldown. even in the example clip rinon used with the phrase "and I assume that means its going to be a 60 second cooldown", you can see the skill actively on a 2 minute cooldown! it is a minor buff, but more so its a quality of life because it means skilled black mages can delay a ley lines if they are forced to move when they would otherwise using it on cooldown, while still having ley lines for the standard 2 minute buff window. You get 1 more ley lines per fight, but that is almost the entirely of it. Edit: I see that rinon acknowledged this in the description, but it feels like a pinned comment should be the better way to go here
the fact that the chaotic alliance raid is 3 weeks AFTER ultimate is such a blunder, since it drops raid equivalent and has no lockout means that nobody will care for the gear, since at this point the majority has already cleared the tier, but not releasing it at 7.1 means that we still can't use it to gear alt jobs for ultimate. Also, honestly, the LB change is likely so they can get away with piss poor balancing, since now you can't just ignore healers in ToP anymore for example, hopefully UCOB challenge runs will still be a thing, that is honestly 1 of the best things to watch.
I think the opposite if they released chaotic earlier than ultimate, then why would you even bother with gearing savage this tier? or worse, the ppl who have geared would be upset because oh wow wasted time
@@BaithNa that's fair, but those 5% general bring in the most hype for FF14, it's not the savage tier, it brings in a lot of viewers obviously, but nothing goes as hard as an ultimate worlds 1st race. hell, even afterwards ultimates will be content people will do on a regular basis for years to come. (people are still actively doing UCOB and UWU, which is what, 6 years old?) my comment was mostly that it sucks being capped for gear since the ultimate might require people to switch and the tier has been out for almost 4 months, anyone who cared have long cleared, doubly so for this raid tier considering how easy it was compared to previous 1st tiers.
tbh, I have never cared about ultimate raids and probably won't care about the Chaos COD, but the rest of the stuff is pretty solid, especially the custom deliveries, the role quests, Hildebrand and the FFXI Crossover.
I believe that a good compromise with the relic weapon is to release the first step without releasing the field operations. If they plan to do it similar to Bozja, having in (fast) and out (slow) of Bozja ways for each step, they can release the outside way of doing it then make it faster when the field operation drops.
Only things I'm looking forward to are the chaotic raids (my old Destiny raid friend and I plan to tackle it after Christmas) and the new dungeon gear. Especially the dungeon gear since I enjoy the old-fashioned military vibes the armor radiates. I'd like more new dungeon gear compared to Endwalker but I won't get my hopes up
Excited for the chaotic alliance raid but concerned about the comment on it being harder because of the amount of players. Frustrating to prog a fight while a few people messing up mechanics wipes the party. Fingers crossed it won’t be that bad.
Hopefully with these pvp updates they'll make a followup on the temporary suspension of free trials from pvp instances from over a year ago, right? *Right!?*
Doesn’t make a lot of sense for chaotic alliance to be released so late.. should have come out before ultimate (though I realize most participating will already be BIS.) I feel like it will take a lot for a BLM era to reign again unless it becomes on par w/ PCT for overall DPS. I know several groups who have players who prefer BLM 100% but play PCT simply because it doesn’t make much sense not to. Relics being released so late also makes little to no sense. SE has become so slow releasing content / evolving this game it’s becoming really frustrating as someone who is bored out of their mind w/ nothing to do on a regular basis. Login on Tuesday for my reclears (though I don’t even need to do that now) and nothing left for an entire week. I love the game but something needs to change “for me” to keep going. Mind you, I understand the majority of the player-base is not in the same boat so it doesn’t matter😂
I don't know how I feel about the chaotic Alliance raid. In one hand it's cool that there is a RAID that now casual players can kind of get into that's not as hard as ultimate but still just challenging enough to where you can't just pretty much turn your brain off and just do it. On the other hand I do hate how many people it's going to take just the clear the damn thing because that means if you're a person like me where really you just only want to hop in just to get the mounts and get out you're going to be sitting there for probably over a thousand runs if you're a person that's also like me that has extremely bad luck just to have a chance to get one out of the two mounts when you have to fight 23 other people just to get it. Because me personally I do not care about hairstyles I play a hrothgar. We cannot use hairstyles so none of that concerns me whatsoever.
For anyone that wants alliance raids to be difficult, it will never satisfy them. It will never be as hard as they want and alliance raids will always be easy to those people, including myself. None of the alliance raids have engaging difficulty because they can't. The only people that would see it as hard are the people that didn't want it to be hard.
@TheAzarak disagree, i really like the stormblood alliance raids, they aren't super hard by any means but they're much more engaging, if you do the shadowbringers and especially endwalker alliance raids they are noticeably much easier and super boring as a result
@@TheAzaraknah man SHB and SB raids still kicks people’s ass to a degree. No one is asking for them to be hard that casuals can’t clear but having wipes here and there is a perfect difficulty for alliance raids and since day 1 aglaia that difficulty has been absent, so hopefully they make the new one closer to Nier raids at least.
@@TheAzarakI can see your point, but the maint complain was that in EW, alliance raids started each fight with 60% of health bar going down as they show the tutorial version of each mechanic, to then do a few mixups when they are close to dead Later on with iLvl it became even worse, as you didnt even get to the mixups, the boss just died doing the tutorial mode patterns What I hope is that they tune back on those tutorial mode fights. Let people eat dirt on the first run, after seeing it 1 or 2 times MOST of the players will be able to do it properly next time, and you make the content hold up for much longer that way
Rinon, I know you mean well by comparing Chaotic Cloud of Darkness to M1S, but understand that such is actually super demoralizing. I tried to get into raiding this expansion and had a blast with the extremes but simply could not do Savage. I tried to learn M1S but it's as if the entire game progressed faster than me and prog groups in PF simply stopped being present anymore while I was only halfway through the fight. You say, "You can do this." but I am simply not a fast enough learner. And nobody tell me to find a static. Neither me nor any of my friends have the regular time to commit to that. Not to mention that theres not enough of us interested in raiding. So it has to be through Party Finder. I intend to try it when it comes out, but comparing it directly to M1S shakes what little confidence I have in my ability to do it.
I'm assuming Relics are tied to Occult Crescent, and therefore probably start with the .2 set, but I agree that Relics are getting shoved to the back of the expansion a lot. I also hope that EW was a nadir of Relic content, and it's uphill from here.
One concern I have about chaotic alliance raid is the fact that it is "enterable" and "practiceable" with 12 people, without scaling. Would that mean that mechanics in the raid would be mechanics that can be resolved with 12 people doing it? (especially with the towers and such)
I'm all for the raid gear looking meh. Having my glam dresser, saddlebag, 3 of my four player inventories, and 6 of my 7 retainers completely full of gear means I'm not going to have to weigh my choices and junk things from my glamour addiction.
In all honesty, it's great that different content is coming to FFXIV. I still love the story despite some of the grips from other people about it. Or hating on it because it's the new thing to do. I am probably in the Positivity Category. But I uninstalled all my other MMORPGs to play FFXIV only.
weekly lock after like a month of savage being out makes no sense w how many books you need for gear for alt jobs, hopefully more farmable content will solve the stagnating feel of patch cycle xiv has, having stuff to do in a videogame is only a good thing, framable content with incenitive is good
The raider part of me is more excited for 7.1 than I've been in a long time. The social part of me, however, is absolutely dreading having to spend all of my time away from my friends and FC, over on Light DC come patch time.
Releasing FRU two days before Thanksgiving and chaotic on Christmas Eve is absurd. “Cope American” yeah yeah yeah, but America is the country with the largest player population. You’d think they’d be willing to wait a week or put it out a week earlier given we’ve been waiting for an ultimate for so long
The screen shot you use for your thoughts on laylines shows it on a 75 second cooldown as you say you assume it's going to be 60 seconds... it's still 120
for the BLM stuff... correct me if I'm misunderstanding things but don't they show the cooldown ticking and its more than 60secs so I think it's just a drift counter-meassure. You can't LL at 4minutes into the fight because heavy movement and have to do yours 30 seconds later? Now with it having stacks that means you'll be able to do that and get back on the timeline for 6minute buffs instead of having it misaligned for the rest of the fight. But yeah, a bit speculative. //nvm, just saw you mention it in the description. Ignore me
@@RinBanana now I'm just imaging devs going "mmmmh, picto seems strong and it being so hyper bursty makes it really nice for ultimates with short 20-30second phases etc... how about we change BLM LL from a 120sec CD to a weaker, 2x 60sec CD so it's dmg is more spread out over the entire 2 minutes" I would have desynthed my TOP BLM staff right on login if that was the case
Wow chaotic rewards are sounding perfect, but too little too late. They had time to try this last expansion. Honestly disappointed that it took this long now that I've quit. But to everyone enjoying this, I'm rooting for your enjoyment.
@@RinBanana you didn't read. he said "should" which is absolutely correct, dropping 730 gear 6 months into the raid tier is abysmal, also this could be that solution to quickly gear an alt job for ultimate.
I'm worried about the fight length of the chaotic alliance raid. Will it be too short or too long and just become droning repeatable content with no superficial story or excitement to be gained from multiple fights/mechanical varieties
I mean the ranked pvp reward is just not good... You have to make it to diamond to get the weapon. It is just not worth the stress man. Back then during ranked feast, You can get a fraction of a weapon skin even in bronze. Although l made it to Crystal for the sage weapon Few seasons ago,l really hate the current implementation for weapon skin reward. It is nothing short of elitism and gatekeeping. If they worry about people feeding and stay in bronze, fine do this: 20 wins in this season are required to be eligible for the reward. And, demotion not being a thing below diamond is just ridiculous. That needs to be changed
Based off of the translation of Yoshi P's comment about working on a system that involves every kind of content makes me HOPE that it will be a Cross-DC duty finder (with accompanying Cross-DC party finder). His comment is so intriguing and yet vague enough to go anywhere with it haha
The PVP update got me hot and ready, but man I am taking a break off until Chaotic Alliance raid. I don't Ultimate raid, farmed my relics (guess I'll start another ARR one YoshiP, look at what you make me do) but it's a very clear "go and play other games" patch for me. But I'm soooo glad the stuff can be bought at the MB, has no weekly and so on. Can't wait to teach some sprouts in my FC and casually get back into Savage.
Great vid recapping the details and sharing insights. Only 2 things - 1) Would have been a nice thing to add a projected release date of 7.2 so that we can gauge just how long this content is supposed to last. 2) People keep putting the word "casual" alongside Extreme and Savage. They are worlds apart lol. Casuals will not watch 15-20 minute videos explaining how to do content.
I really dislike that Chaotic comes out after the Ultimate, I've been trying my hardest to gear up since the liveletter even though i had no interest in doing current savage to try and get into the ultimate on patch and this will delay that by a ton.
I'm a very, very casual player, I don't even really do Extreme Trials and I'm still wanting to try CAR because with so many players I have a hard time imagining it being a unforgiving in terms of mistakes as Savage raids.
Patch being strech like that, just makes me want to stop playing. I won't be playing chaotic 24m because I will be spending time with my family... And knowing how FF14 works, give it 1 week, and there will be guides, and needing to know strats to even try the content. Going in blind will be impossible and once people get their loot they won't come back. As usual.
Chaotic Alliance raid not being part of the weekly locked content is such a godsend. I hate seeing PF for unreal and savage die in real-time as you get further away from Tuesday.
Having extra things to farm is a huge W
There's a revival around the weekend as people who can't raid during the week get on, but yeah I know what you mean.
Not only that just dying the further away you are from week 1, month 1, etc
@@gmyza4849won’t that be exacerbated by no lockout? People will finish farm faster so the content will die faster.
The fact that the chaotic raid specifically incentivises running with first-timers makes it feel even more painful that in savage helping first-timers screws them out of loot if you already cleared that week. Let me help people, Yoshi P!
If raids dropped full loot regardless of how many people already cleared, then merc runs would be the default behavior. People would be incentivized to not take anyone who hasn't cleared the week.
It means that a group where half the people already cleared means double the chance for loot for the ones who haven't hit loot lock yet.
Let's also think about how loot lockouts actually work. You get locked when you roll on loot, not when you just clear a fight. This means for statics, they can coordinate to clear each fight eight times a week. Each run, one person needs on the gear while everyone else just leaves without rolling. Repeat for each person, and in one week a whole group gets full raid gear in one week.
@ You’ve put a whole lot of words in my mouth here bud.
@@idgie534 What else did you mean by saying that it's painful when you screw people out of loot by helping first timers.
What else are you hoping for when you say "Let me help people Yoshi P"
Following an idea to it's logical conclusion isn't putting words in your mouth, it's what you should have done before the words left your mouth.
@@redgeoblaze3752 There is, in fact, a lot of space between 'anyone at all who has cleared for the week in the party halves the loot' and 'there are no restrictions on loot regardless of who has already cleared that week'.
@@idgie534 Still haven't suggested what you'd do instead. Right now, you get one chest for every four raiders who haven't cleared this lockout.
Are you saying that it should still drop full loot if up to three people have already cleared? because that would still cause the issues stated above. Only much less intensely so.
The fact that you rejected the idea of all raids dropping full loot means you understand somewhat why the loot limitation system is in place. I just don't understand what you're even asking for.
Really excited about the new content, but I just wish chaotic wasn’t released so late. It looks really fun and repeatable, but it’s so late in the patch that we only get like 2 months with it before 7.2. Spheeeeene extreme does look to be pretty fun though.
Yea relics really need to be a priority, hell even just a teaser at what the field op is in some quest would be nice
The bonus reward systems for the chaotic alliance raid seem like a brilliant idea to bring in people who might otherwise be intimidated by that kind of content. I really hope it works out and that it ends up being implemented in some form in savage, too.
first steps for the relics started in these patches
ARR: 2.0
HW: 3.15
SB: 4.25
ShB: 5.25
EW: 6.25
as much of a grind the ARR relics are, the steps were introduced in many updates throughout the entire base game, not just the last half or so of it. so many different types of objectives to do even though they went a bit overboard with a couple of them *cough* books *cough*
HW relics while the easiest at least have many multi part steps to each one.
idk enough about SB/ShB relics other than SB is all done in Eureka (which in of itself is a grind) and ShB can be mixture of in and out of Bozja?
EW relics is just unfortunate that from my understanding is just a poetic grind
they need to go back to having at least a somewhat grindy first step (or MANY small objectives) on expansion launch.
Eureka demands you to lvl up and only after that you can get the needed relic items from a fate, so its a grind
I like SHB relic grind, you can get all the things needed for your relic in the Bozja/Zadnor instances if you want to actively grind for it but as long as you have the relevant quests avtive you can also get most of what you need just from playing the game and doing your roulettes. It takes longer this way but it's nice to have the alternative.
I hope you get to do a story on FRU like you did with DSR and TOP, they were excellent.
Hopefully the progression is an interesting one! I’d love to
The reason why the relic will be until 7.25, is because it is probably attached to the new Field Operation, just like Eureka and Bozja were
There's still the possibility that it wont even come until 7.35. They could easily have the relic be earlier in the expansion, just have the new step involve the Field Operation when that comes eventually.
Man, FRU looks really cool but god I hope they go back and do a Stormblood MSQ ultimate. So much potential there, it doesn't make sense to simply skip it.
Four lords is also sorely missing, all those fight had banger themes and stunning bosses
The story could have been a "what if we arrived too late to calm the spirits?" And have them be blind by rage as they fight you
They could even actually insert a Genbu (as a harder version of his battle in Hells’ Lid) and Koryu phase as well, making it clear that because all the spirits are distraught, not only do you have to fight them, Koryu is not dealt with and therefore Koryu has to be battled at full strength instead of being dealt with Soroban.
I'm no hardcore player so I won't be doing FRU, but I am very much excited to watch the world race for it. Also looking forward to Chaotic for the cloud mount if nothing else
i agree with the tomecap increase its so weird that they are so protective about it tbh they should just double the tomecap on odd patches temporarily and when 7.2 comes change it back to 450
Ngl, despite me being really happy with blm as it is now, Im quite excited for those buffs, getting a second leylines charge can add some lil nuance to it rather than just being another 2 minute buff, since it gives you the ability to wait for the right mechanic that you can stay in the same relative area for
Chaotic dropping 730 gear is great but it's way too late into the patch that it'll be replaced by 7.2 crafted gear in a matter of weeks.
Just think about the sub stats on the gear, for us casuals that clear only EX fights, those are a godsend!
we have a plennnnnnnty of time before 7.2
Weeks? There'll be at least 3 months between Chaotic and 7.2
@@soldierorsomething this comes 6 weeks after you can weekly upgrade tome gear with the 24 man, OP is correct it is far too late and while we finally have a piece of content with actual meaningful value it is way too late to be relevant
I starded plaing month ago so pretty much "dead" patch is good for me (just to catch up) but still sad for the rest of community.
As someone who doesn't do on-content Extremes or higher, the content we're getting works fine enough for me. I certainly would've prefered it if we could already get started with the relic (even if it was just an initial tome step), but I can keep myself busy enough with what we'll be given.
So the hour of MSQ and 15 minutes of beast tribe quests for 2 weeks is fine enough?
@lecrab8090 I also intend to do weekly alliance raids and hit the Tome cap as much as I can. With how I play the game as a way to do something whilst listening to stuff, it works fine enough (especially with other games to play on the side).
@@TheIvoryDingothe best way to play the game is by not playing it
@@lecrab8090 That was not what I even remotely meant with what I said
@ that’s what it boils down to. The only way to keep the content from drying up immediately as a non raider is to play like an hour or two a week or just play something else entirely. They charge monthly for that.
I do have to wonder if they plan on unrestricting savage raids when the chaotic raids release. Though they might be making it unrestricted in the chaotic alliance raid just to make it more attractive, which I almost can't blame them for doing that considering how Criterion was dead on arrival last expansion. Still, having an another way of gearing to make alt jobs ultimate ready is fantastic and is a good step towards making that whole process a lot better
the limit this far in is criminal, stopping people from doing the content at this point, i think they just dont want to remove it cos they think it makes people sub longer.
I could not agree more about the relic timing
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3:11 the CD says 74 so, probably still 120s, maybe there just to alleviate drift
Yeah I mention in the video description, I just missed it until the last second
I'm not an ultimate raider (wish my schedule would allow it) but im excited about everything else! Thanks for a great video!
Hall of the Novice should be mandatory, at least being aware of the mechanics is what even casual msq player should know.
They really should be aiming to have content with comparable lasting value to the exploratory zones on release, not two patches into an expansion's cycle.
I don't knit if "excited" is the term I would use, but I have 49 more clears of ex3 to do, so that'll keep me logging in for a little while at least.
"I hope melee DPS will be killable again" Yeaaaaaaaaa it's been rough for us PVPers
They added PVP?!
pls elaborate on DPS being unkillable. I got Crystal in ranked in the 1st season of it, then stopped since 0 rewards like feast, and i don't see any Godlike melee's in Casual crystal matches.
Seriously, its been bothering me that everyone, even rinon apparently, seems to think the black mage change to ley lines is such an incredible insane omfg level buff. we even saw in the live letter, its still a 2 minute cooldown. even in the example clip rinon used with the phrase "and I assume that means its going to be a 60 second cooldown", you can see the skill actively on a 2 minute cooldown! it is a minor buff, but more so its a quality of life because it means skilled black mages can delay a ley lines if they are forced to move when they would otherwise using it on cooldown, while still having ley lines for the standard 2 minute buff window. You get 1 more ley lines per fight, but that is almost the entirely of it.
Edit: I see that rinon acknowledged this in the description, but it feels like a pinned comment should be the better way to go here
Read the description, nobody said it was an “incredible omg level buff either”, I think you might be getting a little too worked up over nothing
the fact that the chaotic alliance raid is 3 weeks AFTER ultimate is such a blunder, since it drops raid equivalent and has no lockout means that nobody will care for the gear, since at this point the majority has already cleared the tier, but not releasing it at 7.1 means that we still can't use it to gear alt jobs for ultimate.
Also, honestly, the LB change is likely so they can get away with piss poor balancing, since now you can't just ignore healers in ToP anymore for example, hopefully UCOB challenge runs will still be a thing, that is honestly 1 of the best things to watch.
.5 percent of people care about that
I think the opposite
if they released chaotic earlier than ultimate, then why would you even bother with gearing savage this tier? or worse, the ppl who have geared would be upset because oh wow wasted time
@@omensoffate TBH the player population that cares about Ultimate to being with, in NA at least, isn't that far from .5%.
@@Verpalit's more like 5% but that's still a minuscule number of players.
@@BaithNa that's fair, but those 5% general bring in the most hype for FF14, it's not the savage tier, it brings in a lot of viewers obviously, but nothing goes as hard as an ultimate worlds 1st race.
hell, even afterwards ultimates will be content people will do on a regular basis for years to come. (people are still actively doing UCOB and UWU, which is what, 6 years old?)
my comment was mostly that it sucks being capped for gear since the ultimate might require people to switch and the tier has been out for almost 4 months, anyone who cared have long cleared, doubly so for this raid tier considering how easy it was compared to previous 1st tiers.
tbh, I have never cared about ultimate raids and probably won't care about the Chaos COD, but the rest of the stuff is pretty solid, especially the custom deliveries, the role quests, Hildebrand and the FFXI Crossover.
I believe that a good compromise with the relic weapon is to release the first step without releasing the field operations. If they plan to do it similar to Bozja, having in (fast) and out (slow) of Bozja ways for each step, they can release the outside way of doing it then make it faster when the field operation drops.
Only things I'm looking forward to are the chaotic raids (my old Destiny raid friend and I plan to tackle it after Christmas) and the new dungeon gear.
Especially the dungeon gear since I enjoy the old-fashioned military vibes the armor radiates. I'd like more new dungeon gear compared to Endwalker but I won't get my hopes up
Excited for the chaotic alliance raid but concerned about the comment on it being harder because of the amount of players. Frustrating to prog a fight while a few people messing up mechanics wipes the party. Fingers crossed it won’t be that bad.
Hopefully with these pvp updates they'll make a followup on the temporary suspension of free trials from pvp instances from over a year ago, right? *Right!?*
Doesn’t make a lot of sense for chaotic alliance to be released so late.. should have come out before ultimate (though I realize most participating will already be BIS.) I feel like it will take a lot for a BLM era to reign again unless it becomes on par w/ PCT for overall DPS. I know several groups who have players who prefer BLM 100% but play PCT simply because it doesn’t make much sense not to. Relics being released so late also makes little to no sense. SE has become so slow releasing content / evolving this game it’s becoming really frustrating as someone who is bored out of their mind w/ nothing to do on a regular basis. Login on Tuesday for my reclears (though I don’t even need to do that now) and nothing left for an entire week. I love the game but something needs to change “for me” to keep going. Mind you, I understand the majority of the player-base is not in the same boat so it doesn’t matter😂
part of the reason we didn't get the relic now is because we're getting eureka/bozja style content which probably won't be out till 7.3ish
I don't know how I feel about the chaotic Alliance raid. In one hand it's cool that there is a RAID that now casual players can kind of get into that's not as hard as ultimate but still just challenging enough to where you can't just pretty much turn your brain off and just do it.
On the other hand I do hate how many people it's going to take just the clear the damn thing because that means if you're a person like me where really you just only want to hop in just to get the mounts and get out you're going to be sitting there for probably over a thousand runs if you're a person that's also like me that has extremely bad luck just to have a chance to get one out of the two mounts when you have to fight 23 other people just to get it.
Because me personally I do not care about hairstyles I play a hrothgar. We cannot use hairstyles so none of that concerns me whatsoever.
So is the futuristic looking tech gear in the pvp area going to leave the wolf mark shop too? Imma need to buy the rest if that's the case.
I’m really hoping the alliance raid isn’t brain dead like in EW.
For anyone that wants alliance raids to be difficult, it will never satisfy them. It will never be as hard as they want and alliance raids will always be easy to those people, including myself. None of the alliance raids have engaging difficulty because they can't. The only people that would see it as hard are the people that didn't want it to be hard.
@TheAzarak disagree, i really like the stormblood alliance raids, they aren't super hard by any means but they're much more engaging, if you do the shadowbringers and especially endwalker alliance raids they are noticeably much easier and super boring as a result
@@TheAzaraknah man SHB and SB raids still kicks people’s ass to a degree. No one is asking for them to be hard that casuals can’t clear but having wipes here and there is a perfect difficulty for alliance raids and since day 1 aglaia that difficulty has been absent, so hopefully they make the new one closer to Nier raids at least.
@@Haze-ej7svall of the alliance raids are easy because once you learn the mechanics, it's a cake walk, like everything else in the game.
@@TheAzarakI can see your point, but the maint complain was that in EW, alliance raids started each fight with 60% of health bar going down as they show the tutorial version of each mechanic, to then do a few mixups when they are close to dead
Later on with iLvl it became even worse, as you didnt even get to the mixups, the boss just died doing the tutorial mode patterns
What I hope is that they tune back on those tutorial mode fights. Let people eat dirt on the first run, after seeing it 1 or 2 times MOST of the players will be able to do it properly next time, and you make the content hold up for much longer that way
I mean... changes to the hall of novice and glamours as well as the new MSQ are great. but... I don't raid, so... man, not even the relic...?
Sounds like I'm only grind chaotic alliance for gear, depending on it's difficulty.
14:58 complete speculation but we saw reward on the stream, it was another ring. Probably another exp boost for new players?
Rinon, I know you mean well by comparing Chaotic Cloud of Darkness to M1S, but understand that such is actually super demoralizing. I tried to get into raiding this expansion and had a blast with the extremes but simply could not do Savage. I tried to learn M1S but it's as if the entire game progressed faster than me and prog groups in PF simply stopped being present anymore while I was only halfway through the fight.
You say, "You can do this." but I am simply not a fast enough learner.
And nobody tell me to find a static. Neither me nor any of my friends have the regular time to commit to that. Not to mention that theres not enough of us interested in raiding.
So it has to be through Party Finder.
I intend to try it when it comes out, but comparing it directly to M1S shakes what little confidence I have in my ability to do it.
When are the buffs coming though? Will we get more for 7.11?
I'm assuming Relics are tied to Occult Crescent, and therefore probably start with the .2 set, but I agree that Relics are getting shoved to the back of the expansion a lot. I also hope that EW was a nadir of Relic content, and it's uphill from here.
One concern I have about chaotic alliance raid is the fact that it is "enterable" and "practiceable" with 12 people, without scaling. Would that mean that mechanics in the raid would be mechanics that can be resolved with 12 people doing it? (especially with the towers and such)
I'm all for the raid gear looking meh. Having my glam dresser, saddlebag, 3 of my four player inventories, and 6 of my 7 retainers completely full of gear means I'm not going to have to weigh my choices and junk things from my glamour addiction.
The Age of Black Mage has Returned.
It can go back to being my main again….
In all honesty, it's great that different content is coming to FFXIV. I still love the story despite some of the grips from other people about it. Or hating on it because it's the new thing to do. I am probably in the Positivity Category. But I uninstalled all my other MMORPGs to play FFXIV only.
weekly lock after like a month of savage being out makes no sense w how many books you need for gear for alt jobs, hopefully more farmable content will solve the stagnating feel of patch cycle xiv has, having stuff to do in a videogame is only a good thing, framable content with incenitive is good
The raider part of me is more excited for 7.1 than I've been in a long time. The social part of me, however, is absolutely dreading having to spend all of my time away from my friends and FC, over on Light DC come patch time.
Does anyone know when the next savage tier is coming out?
7.2
I think it'll come out next spring, around April or May. Which means ita nearly a year between tiers.
Releasing FRU two days before Thanksgiving and chaotic on Christmas Eve is absurd. “Cope American” yeah yeah yeah, but America is the country with the largest player population. You’d think they’d be willing to wait a week or put it out a week earlier given we’ve been waiting for an ultimate for so long
The screen shot you use for your thoughts on laylines shows it on a 75 second cooldown as you say you assume it's going to be 60 seconds... it's still 120
read the description
for the BLM stuff... correct me if I'm misunderstanding things but don't they show the cooldown ticking and its more than 60secs so I think it's just a drift counter-meassure.
You can't LL at 4minutes into the fight because heavy movement and have to do yours 30 seconds later? Now with it having stacks that means you'll be able to do that and get back on the timeline for 6minute buffs instead of having it misaligned for the rest of the fight. But yeah, a bit speculative.
//nvm, just saw you mention it in the description. Ignore me
check the description, yeah I made a mistake in the initial sweep and noticed right at the last minute, like a fool!
@@RinBanana now I'm just imaging devs going
"mmmmh, picto seems strong and it being so hyper bursty makes it really nice for ultimates with short 20-30second phases etc... how about we change BLM LL from a 120sec CD to a weaker, 2x 60sec CD so it's dmg is more spread out over the entire 2 minutes"
I would have desynthed my TOP BLM staff right on login if that was the case
does this future includes viera/hroth hats and headgears? 🙄
Wow chaotic rewards are sounding perfect, but too little too late. They had time to try this last expansion. Honestly disappointed that it took this long now that I've quit. But to everyone enjoying this, I'm rooting for your enjoyment.
chaotic alliance raid should drop with 7.1
It releases in 7.15
@@RinBanana you didn't read.
he said "should" which is absolutely correct, dropping 730 gear 6 months into the raid tier is abysmal, also this could be that solution to quickly gear an alt job for ultimate.
@@DarkDyllon ^this
Oh yeah, i misread
still pissed we didnt get the dragonsong themed lance but instead the stunted lance from last expac and the meme one this expac
I'm worried about the fight length of the chaotic alliance raid. Will it be too short or too long and just become droning repeatable content with no superficial story or excitement to be gained from multiple fights/mechanical varieties
Yeah I’m curious about this too honestly
but god why couldnt they just delay everything for 1 week
Because Japan doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving and Christmas like we westerners do.
I mean the ranked pvp reward is just not good... You have to make it to diamond to get the weapon. It is just not worth the stress man. Back then during ranked feast, You can get a fraction of a weapon skin even in bronze. Although l made it to Crystal for the sage weapon Few seasons ago,l really hate the current implementation for weapon skin reward. It is nothing short of elitism and gatekeeping. If they worry about people feeding and stay in bronze, fine do this: 20 wins in this season are required to be eligible for the reward.
And, demotion not being a thing below diamond is just ridiculous. That needs to be changed
I can't wait for the 12 Tank clear of Chaotic CoD
Based off of the translation of Yoshi P's comment about working on a system that involves every kind of content makes me HOPE that it will be a Cross-DC duty finder (with accompanying Cross-DC party finder). His comment is so intriguing and yet vague enough to go anywhere with it haha
The PVP update got me hot and ready, but man I am taking a break off until Chaotic Alliance raid. I don't Ultimate raid, farmed my relics (guess I'll start another ARR one YoshiP, look at what you make me do) but it's a very clear "go and play other games" patch for me.
But I'm soooo glad the stuff can be bought at the MB, has no weekly and so on. Can't wait to teach some sprouts in my FC and casually get back into Savage.
Great vid recapping the details and sharing insights. Only 2 things - 1) Would have been a nice thing to add a projected release date of 7.2 so that we can gauge just how long this content is supposed to last. 2) People keep putting the word "casual" alongside Extreme and Savage. They are worlds apart lol. Casuals will not watch 15-20 minute videos explaining how to do content.
casual DONT DO ANY CONTENT LIKE extreme or savage they they barely do normal raids and onyl tiny minority .
"Is it enough to last?"
Lol. Lmao. For raiders? No. For non raiders? Absolutely fucking not.
I really dislike that Chaotic comes out after the Ultimate, I've been trying my hardest to gear up since the liveletter even though i had no interest in doing current savage to try and get into the ultimate on patch and this will delay that by a ton.
You aren’t ready for ultimate if you can’t do savage now.
What an encouraging response.
@@liasprings6502 Well can't blame him really because if you didn't clear M4S at least once then the npc won't let you unlock FRU.
@@liasprings6502 i mean... it's true. that's where the gear is.
Quieter patches aren't always bad tbh. I won't deny a relic step would be nice, but it gives me time to catch up.
It's been 3 years of quieter patches lmao
I'm a very, very casual player, I don't even really do Extreme Trials and I'm still wanting to try CAR because with so many players I have a hard time imagining it being a unforgiving in terms of mistakes as Savage raids.
Gl bro
As far as I remember, the start of a relic was always x.2
Not always, just in more recent expansions, which as far as I’m concerned is too late
ARR had relic weapons on release, Heavensward was 3.15 and Stormblood was 4.0 Not untill shadowbringers that was get x.2
Wrong try again
So only 10 years ago did they have relics on release and it got later and later until shadowbringers? Lol@@tomvanramshorst2146
@@tomvanramshorst2146 Stormblood started with Eureka, which was x.2
PLS NEVER USE A BEGINNER AND CASUAL FREINDLY EVER WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS BS it midcore at best NEVER CASUAL FREINDLY.
I guess we're not getting crafting gear, huh? Rip.
That type of thing should be in the patch notes. They might add a picture to the site prior, as they did with the pvp gear today, but might not.
@skylara_k thank you. 7.0 has been thr first time I've been at the end of the current patch.
I think we do get another grey set in .1, then the green-tier set will be .3 and the scrip equivalent will come after that.
only ew and maybe hw are casual relics the rest requer NON CAUSAL CONTENT or to much grind for single relic.
I still need the sword from Tidus from final fantasy 10
Patch being strech like that, just makes me want to stop playing. I won't be playing chaotic 24m because I will be spending time with my family... And knowing how FF14 works, give it 1 week, and there will be guides, and needing to know strats to even try the content. Going in blind will be impossible and once people get their loot they won't come back. As usual.
The future of FFXIV is endless Wuk Lamat followed by unsubscribing
'really spicy video coming' - Just what the world needs, more negativity i'm sure
I have never been negative for negative’s sake in a single video, leave your projection elsewhere ty
What else is negative in the world lol
@@omensoffatewhat's not?
when someone dares critique my previous cat girl game (it's my entire personality!) >:(