Yes, forgiveness is not given to make the receiver "feel better", i mean you can never be sure if they even regret what theyve done, forgiveness is given in order to let go, to have some closure and peace of mind in the matter. And because of multiple other reasons. Being able to truly forgive someone is a skill, something that most dont have naturally and it needs to be learned. Its not as easy as people would like to think.
Same . I wouldn’t carry hatred either . But forgiveness no less friendship ? Not in a million years . The fact is , some people are pure hatred , pure predator without an ounce of care or empathy for others . They possess lizard brains and have no care for anyone except maybe themselves : Some don’t even value themselves and will take out and torture as many as they can on their way out . Those are the truths that some absurdly “kind and gracious “ people who “believe in the lord”, are unwilling to accept the fact that some peoples childhoods & entire lives have been just one long lesson in pain and they sometime reach a point in which they choose to unleash all their life’s lessons on whomever crosses their path . What a waste of 3 lives .
I would gladly go to prison in the name of revenge if someone murdered my mother. My only hope is that I could get my hands on the responsible party or parties. 🕎🐉
This is why too much kindness can be dangerous. We still absolutely need it, but she could've forgiven him without interaction. Evil sees kindness as something to be manipulated.
Well said snd very true. Extreme kindness is actually evil itself. It’s important to know where it’s placed, what for, how much and to whom. Her “kindness” is a complete betrayal to her family.
@@frankskoda-simmonsno. Families of victims also have the power to forgive. Understand forgiveness in its definition. She didn’t have to trust him and befriend him, but forgiving is always best for the victims and/or victim’s families.
this is just depressing. i'm not victim blaming, but come on. it seems to me like she was trying so hard to show everyone what a forgiving and virtuous person she was that she completely lost sight of who she was actually dealing with. if the mother of the guy who killed your mother is telling you to watch out, you should probably listen
@@alejandrocueto5099 Interesting line of thought. But don't you think she might just as well have been a Christian, as in "whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also?"
@@veganandlovingitMaybe she thought it was her path to healing. Just like you chose to be a vegan 🤷🏽♀️ Have you had a mother murdered before? No, so how dare you judge her mindset. Ppl forgive/befriend killers of loved ones everyday. Doesn't warrant death 🤦🏽♀️
Credit to the guys mom for warning Martha that her son was back to his old ways. I’m sure that was not easy to do considering this woman had just forgiven the unforgivable and was doing so much for him.
American prisons aren't designed to rehabilitate. They're built for punishment above all else. That's why a lot of prisoners tend to come out worse than they came in.
This is so horrible. Forgiving someone does not mean you welcome them back into your life to do the same thing again. You forgive them for you. You keep away from them because they’re still them. I’ve been saying this and living by it my whole life, and it’s served me well.
@@LizzieLizzie-im9tqthis is literally what I thought. I bet she hated her mom. Probably did a death spell on her mom and it worked but the thing about spells is they go back to the sender who sent. Their karma
Forgiving doesn't mean forgetting what happened. You can forgive just to let go of the hatred and bitterness that would drag you down but to befriend the person who murdered your mother and stepfather in cold blood during a robbery? No damn way.
Without writing him in jail, advocating for his release, picking him up after release, giving him a job, and letting him into her home..... she could have forgiven him - RIGHT THERE, in her heart. Nothing more or else was needed, which is why this had NOTHING to do with forgiveness, but something else.
I think she was trying to help him because his mom worked for her and she knew him mom was a good person but she forgot how evil this man was and sadly he killed her too. I remember watching this on investigate discovery on tv. Cold blooded murderer
I feel like Martha was a genuinely good person, but I also feel like it was a massive disrespect to her dead family members; to befriend their killer. Almost a selfish act. Possibly done, to try and quell some sort of deep-seeded guilt that she should not have been burdening herself with in the first place.
Nailed it. I guarantee she had been made to feel guilty of her family's wealth. Not by the murderer, but by society in general and the media specifically.
@@battlefrog2818holy crap man good job catching that. Completely changed my understanding of her comment. Thank god you exist. What would we do without you?
She must have learned this notion of love from the so-called Buddha a.k.a Gautam who loved his young family and his little kingdom so much that he totally abandoned them and relinquished himself of all responsibilities concerning them.
@@AHD2105 Because turning to the vile Buddhism and its idolatry of the Fallen Man is CRAZY. So, do the wise thing while you can and turn instead to the Risen Lord who Alone has Loved you with His SAVING LOVE and made the otherwise impossible Salvation possible for you.
No, the parole board is pure evil, staffed by Shrinks, "educated" in Ivory Towers. They set him free.....and of course, as in many cases like these, they suffer NO accountability for their actions....thus, more coming.
I have pity for her, because she did Not deserve what happened to her or her Family members! She damn sure didn't deserve Her Mother being brutally Murdered! She was probably so misguided and very naive, or she thought she could save him?! She probably Never was around anyone as cold and messed up as Travis Lewis?! Or she had a bad case of White guilt and wanted to be a "White Savior", in that case she was Stupid!
Wow how absolutely ridiculous to forgive your mothers killer, sadly ive no empathy for her (yes i know shes dead), she betrayed her mother's memory and her loyalty was not to her Mama but to her own ego.
🎯 Olympic level virtue signalling narcissism. She forgave the brutal murder of her own mother but she drew the line at the theft of the $14,000 she pocketed from her mother's chandelier. It remains unknown whether there was any intimacy between the two. It there was, the whole sordid mess is on another level of sick.
An eye for an eye. There are certain crimes that are not forgivable, and redrum is one of them. The entire family wimped out by not going to trial in the first place to make sure this evil doer was executed, then their daughter decided to let the devil back in. Dumb as rocks.
I want the guys in prison to see that this same beautiful spirited lady tried to help him even after killing her mom . They won't appreciate that at all.
It sounds like she was doing Restorative justice. Where victims and offenders met and discuss what happens. RJ has proven many times to work. Recidivism goes down and victims get closure. It’s just a difficult concept for a few people because people are accustom to “get caught and jailed” but clearly it doesn’t work. Jails are packed and people keep committing crime. It’s just a constant circle in the American criminal system. Glad they’re slowly moving to RJ.
Forgiving and befriending your mothers killer? The disrespect, the audacity just nah I can't feel bad for her that was so utterly stupid. He should've been put in the dirt long ago
@@Mechaysall that "effort" and where did it get her exactly? Six feet under. Good for her....? What's impressive about that? Do gooders are their own worst enemies, what they see as strength everyone else sees as weakness. Especially people with nasty motives who look for vulnerable prey. Bleeding hearts are the easiest people to manipulate, they make easy marks for these criminals because they want to see the good in everyone and refuse to listen to reason. Case in point...
I agree insay this everytime I see it in a case... or when they cry or screaming when get sentence period... like they could take somebody's life and not get any type of repercussion for it.🤬🤷♀️🤦♀️
Victims are often vulnerable and the killer knows this and can creep back in…same for an abuser. She went to him for closure in her loss and thought forgiveness would be what she needed. I hope this man certainly pays for taking innocent lives
This is a spiritual battle. This family were slavers, and gained their wealth from slavery. They lived in a home built by slaves. They even had ' servants" to continue their legacy of the antebellum. The daughters attempt to cleanse her families ghost by becoming Buddhist and practice forgiveness did not prevent what was destiny. Their ties to evil runs deep.
Can’t imagine forgiving someone and inviting them into your world after doing something so horrible. Evil people don’t deserve forgiveness or kindness. The sentiment is nice but the outcome will never end well. The only good thing that came of this was his own ending. He can’t hurt any more people
@JRS7777 All religions are equally false, yours included. And Buddhism absolutely does not preach blind forgiveness. So her being Buddhist had nothing to do with her stupidity.
@@kholetAndreunlike king von and most killers in the hood who kill off of revenge,anger disrespect or a traumatic situation. someone who kills with no intent or reason. just the like or the thrill to kill somebody is a unprovoked killer
Forgiveness isnt for the person that hurt you. Forgiveness is for you so you can move on and have another chance at life. You dont have to sit at the same table as someone you forgave. In this case of scenario she should of moved on and not contact him. Rip, very sad.
I absolutely agree. So sad she did that, very naive, and he saw her kind (but naive) gesture as a weakness, like all predators do..... absolutely awful 😥
I don't understand that. Why can't you move on with your life without forgiving someone? I haven't forgiven my abusers and I don't feel trapped or stuck in any way. I wouldn't wish bad things on them or anything but I don't forgive them.
@@SpecialBlanket; exactly. I will never forgive some people. That by no means, means I am stuck in life or haven’t moved on. I am deff living my life how I want, but that abuse will never be erased and yes always be part of my history. Live anyway. Live despite the wrongs and live your life.
Exactly. Some people don't realize that forgiveness can be wasted on the wrong people. They've got this idea in their head that they need to forgive to move on. Heal the anger yes, but you can move on without bending backwards to forgive the unforgivable.
Forgiveness is earned not given out freely. There's no need to forgive without repentance. The person needs to acknowledge their bad behavior take accountability for it. They need to show/demonstrate remorse for what they did & be genuinely sorry/ remorseful/ repent for it. I don't know anything about Buddhism, but haven been a Christian 54 years I don't understand how christians don't understand this it's clearly laid out in their bible. We heathens understand this 🙄 She was foolish. Oh well 🤷
Two type of people you should never allow in your house, drug addicts and thieves even if they've never stolen from you, eventually it will happen. And never share any financial news about yourself with them, things like you're trying to sell something valuable ect.
The daughter was a wonderful forgiving person but insanely naive. Could someone who committed such a horrific crime really be rehabilitated and trusted?
She was not naive. She was interested in the guy trying to play to play the white saviour fantasy just oike the movie ( the blind side) Supposedly base on a true story of a white woman saving a black teen . Which was proved now by the same black teen now an adult that the story was not true . He wrote a book about it
I genuinely feel sorry for the family. That beautiful family home their patriarch built and the openness and kindness this woman tried to have for him but that she was also the employer of his mother who they still kept after her son killed their family member. What a loss. A really hate when kind people die of anything other than old age after a life well lived.
@@Powerstealhe said she'd put her arm in the cage to pet him and then get the tiger killed. Presumably because he attacked her. So while I don't think she would be demanding his death, her actions would still result in the tiger being destroyed, regardless of her intent. So...'inadvertently'
"She came upon a poisonous snake frozen in the snow. She took the snake home and nursed it back to health. One day the snake bit her on the cheek. As she lay dying, she asked the snake, "Why have you done this to me?" And the snake answered, "...Look, b*tch, you knew I was a snake."" People can't change unless they genuinely want to change, and 95% of people don't see a problem with anything they do, regardless of who it hurts. You can forgive someone who wronged you, but still have the sense to stay a thousand miles (plus several feet of concrete and metal bars, ideally) away from them.
@@4dyamondx745yeah, that's why i put quotation marks around the part that's a quote. but hey, cliched internet sarcasm by someone who missed something obvious. how original.
The problem is people think forgiveness means being pals and helping the other guy. All forgiveness is is not hating them. A righteous person forgives, a fool forgets. After all, forgiveness doesn't change the person's nature.
@@youngdkoutYes, she does. What kind of demented fuck befriends someone who murdered their mother? That's completely disrespectful to your mom and if there's an afterlife your mother is looking at you with disgust.
It's hard for some people to except that some people are just evil, regardless of background, economic situation or whatever unfortunate situation made them that way. Many people who do evil things are actually evil, you have to be able to judge character and not just believe whatever makes you feel better about the world you live in.
She was not naive. Read about the exposed story of the movie ( the blind side ) About a white woman who helped a black teen. The black teen now an adult man exposed the woman and her family. They used him
I don’t understand why Travis didn’t get life without parole for murdering 2 people, setting the house on fire and stealing/crashing the car. I mean… how??? Idc how young he was, he’s clearly a danger to society.
Likely a combination of how young he was, the fact he didn't enter the house with the intention of killing them, and the victims family not wanting him to spend the rest of his life in prison.
This story is crazy. Im feel justified in that i don't give people second chances. Anyone that does me dirty can go on about their lives, but never with my help.
Second chances are what we should have as humans but it also depends on the extremity of the action. Sadly, some were stuck in families that abuse their powers thus have a skewed sense of right and wrong.
Maybe she needed people to see how spiritual and better than most other people she was. Maybe she had a martyr complex. Maybe she didn't want her family telling her how to llive. Maybe all of the above. She was definitely unwise. So sad for both families...
She employed his mother, knew the family and was obviously giving him the benefit of the doubt that at the age of 16 years he made the worst decision of his life. Unfortunately she was proved wrong at the cost of her own life.
@@Jachi_Michael This is not all black people. I'm black and never killed anyone. All races of people are capable of killing someone. It is the individual person that can be evil. In her case so knew that person was evil and still wanted to be cool.
They were both punished in the end, her for befriending the man whom killed her family, and him for being given a second chance at life and abusing her kindness. Life truly goes in full circle this is proof of karma 🤯
I truly 100% believe in living by the phrase "Forgive, but never forget." You can forgive someone for commiting an atrocity against you or your family, but you must never stop treating them as a person capable of commiting such atrocities. They have already proven that is who they are. She did not deserve this at all, unfortunately some people will just never stop taking advantage of pure people to harm them
Worked in a prison and these animals absolutely despise kindness. They see it as weakness and they believe that if you are weak then you deserve to be prey.
Dead eyes . Run the other way . Don’t engage . Don’t enrage . Try to slip into the background and go unnoticed by those with dead eyes . That’s my advice .
I did a little business with an 19th street gang cliques boss . His dead eyes made my blood run cold . When he would be MIA for awhile , the teenagers would behave like kids again. Laughter and joking . I always imagined he’d killed another person and was laying low or crossed the border . When he returned ? He demanded discipline from the kids - whose laughter and joking were lost in his presence . That man’s image is burned into my memory and I wouldn’t want him to ever think I owed him a dime or looked at him the wrong way . I’m thankful we parted ways without any display of just what he was capable of . He was the most frightening person I’ve ever been in close quarters with and would be happy never to meet another dead eyed human again .
The legal and justice system let the victims down with the atrociously short sentence, and then she let her mother down by forgiving this person. Yet another great crime story, well done on these!
I think she really wanted to believe this 16 year old was just in need of guidance and felt even more empathy because of the good nature of his mother.
I doubt it. I think she was just a virtue signaler who got murked for her troubles. “Hey everybody look at me. Look at how good of a person I am!!” You know, that type.
@@bigpapi6688naw in people magazine her family said she bought his story that he didn’t kill them, that he had an accomplice in the burglary and the accomplice was the killer. She believed he was a 16 yo who just got caught up with the wrong person and got unfairly framed for murder. Her view was twisted because she believed his account of things.
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Imagine how the rest of her family felt about her befriending her mother’s killer, talk about betrayal ! I don’t feel sorry for her she was asking for it
This sounds like a situation i would get into 😢 As a empath I understand the struggle of forgiveness and setting boundaries ❤️ therapy teaches how to do both
That poor mother has to live with the fact that her son was such a POS…. and was unfortunate enough to live to see him commit the same mistakes… this really is just super sad.
@@dawnfire82- so presumptuous of you to conclude that. She may have been molested/raped and became pregnant with him… who knows. The seed determines what a child is born with. Environment and love can only do so much; the rest is up to the individual.
what a loser, crashing the car he stole and getting caught immediately, then years later getting his own car stuck in mud and drowning in the lake, both times fleeing from senseless murder.
It seems as though it were a socialite "pick me" move. Disregarding what he had done, disrespecting the family , the mother's death, the uncle's death, acting as though she were the all forgiving type to learn from (which no one should heed that advice)...it all hits the wrong nerve. She endangered everyone around her by inviting him in, by even contacting him and providing a soft place to land. It should be considered luck that she is the only person that was injured or lost her life in this case.
Fully agreed, I didn't even consider that last bit. Maybe ppl preferred to keep out of her house cause she was so open about housing a murderer thief lol
That's a good point! She endangered everyone around her with her decision, too! "When someone decides to show you their true colors, don't try to repaint them."
This is why temperance should be practiced more. Temperance is not just mercy towards wrongdoing but a self-restraint not to let your emotions get the better of you in some anger fuelled need for Justice, as well as recognizing that certain people shouldn't be forgiven and to walk away from them. Martha as good hearted as she was, was extremely naive. People can change, but there are some that should never be forgiven, especially if they taken the life of their own mother. I don't blame her in trying to cast aside hatred, but there are better ways to do it. Travis really went past the line of being human into something less than in a morbid thought. Regardless if it was drugs in his system or not, the man was still willing to kill just to get whatever. Seeing only Sally, and Martha as obstacles and nothing more despite Martha trying her all to give the man another chance and hope he could change for the better. Honestly this is a sad case to watch as one woman's good graces was naive and a crook's inability to change. A tragic end all concerning.
My condolences to her family...it's truly a sad case. I understand forgiveness but you have to recognize who you are dealing with. Once a person shows you who they are that's it ...they don't change.
Dear god why do people feel so desperate to forgive people??? Hold! your! grudges! people! You are not a bad person because you’re mad someone wronged you.
Imo forgiving is... okay? It's okay if you don't want yo hate someone forever, the problem here is that she went out of her way to befriend her mom's killer. Forgiving does not mean you have to be buddy buddy with someone
I think forgiving is best, but it doesn't mean you should renounce your ability to think rationally, a person who has murdered in cold blood can do it again anytime so they should remain in prison for life, not because of vengeance but to protect society.
Forgiveness is one thing; befriending the person who brutally killed a family member is an entirely different conversation.
I’m not forgiving or befriending.
He probably saw her as a stupid old lady he could take advantage of, and there she was thinking she was his savior. Monsters never change.
Absolute betrayal of family. Darwin award nomination.
They said God forgives everybody
So leave that over to God you don't have to do that
If somebody murders any member of my family, I'm going to prison too. I don't forgive.
It's ok to forgive
Just don't forget
I’m not forgiving a monster
I agree. Dont forget, cause if u do u might get knocked down. RIP to the family
This trash obviously was not worth forgiving. Murder is never a thing you should ever forgive.
And certainly don't let those bad people back into your life ever
@@basketballexpert4584 Good for you, nobody asked you to
It was reckless and stupid to bring someone who killed your mom into your home, forgiving is one thing and stupidity is another
You can't fix stoopid...🤣
@guyguyver7552Americans
@@LilXancheX number 1 education system in the world baby.
@GrimNephilim yessir, as a Mexican boy, with Poor parents from a poor country. Your country was very generous in helping me get rich 🤑
@@GrimNephilimhell nah
When a mother tells you her child is no good you best believe her.
Amen
My roommate's mom in college once called her own son mental and manipulative. She told me this all in conversation, she was sure right.
@doctordl7757 Moms don't say that sh*t lightly.
They never do I've warned females about my family members and it never ended well
AN ex mom warned me I didn't think twice I was gone
Yup because a mom would normally always stick up for their son.
You might forgive someone personally, but that person still owes a debt to society and should remain in prison.
Gotta look like the most righteous person in town!
Exactly!!!
I would ever forgive a killer
Yes, forgiveness is not given to make the receiver "feel better", i mean you can never be sure if they even regret what theyve done, forgiveness is given in order to let go, to have some closure and peace of mind in the matter. And because of multiple other reasons. Being able to truly forgive someone is a skill, something that most dont have naturally and it needs to be learned. Its not as easy as people would like to think.
Once a person serves their time, they get released.
She took forgiveness to a whole notha level. She had no common sense or discernment. Smh
This is the best comment on here. The discernment is what she lacked. So sad
This is the comment I was looking for. Zero discernment at all.
She thought if she befriended him, she would get some kind of self gratification or something 😂
@@LilXancheX is that a laughing emoji?
She probably bought a lot of google play cards in her time too
When people show you who they are, believe them!
Give credit to Author: Maya Angelou
@@Alice-Not-In-Chains I didn't know it was Ms. Angelou who said that.
Yes. Thank you.
I just made the some comment and then saw that you said the same thing. Great minds think alike;)
Because It's No Turning Back!! I Don't Care How Much They Put On A Smiling 😊😁 Face.
I could never forgive someone that killed my mother. Let alone befriend the dude.
Same . I wouldn’t carry hatred either . But forgiveness no less friendship ? Not in a million years . The fact is , some people are pure hatred , pure predator without an ounce of care or empathy for others . They possess lizard brains and have no care for anyone except maybe themselves : Some don’t even value themselves and will take out and torture as many as they can on their way out . Those are the truths that some absurdly “kind and gracious “ people who “believe in the lord”, are unwilling to accept the fact that some peoples childhoods & entire lives have been just one long lesson in pain and they sometime reach a point in which they choose to unleash all their life’s lessons on whomever crosses their path . What a waste of 3 lives .
I would gladly go to prison in the name of revenge if someone murdered my mother. My only hope is that I could get my hands on the responsible party or parties. 🕎🐉
I’d end up in jail instead tho
Not even just befriend she worked with him and lived with him.
Did she benefit from Life Insurance or maybe she secretly hated her mother and could careless what happened 🤔
This is why too much kindness can be dangerous. We still absolutely need it, but she could've forgiven him without interaction. Evil sees kindness as something to be manipulated.
Well said snd very true.
Extreme kindness is actually evil itself. It’s important to know where it’s placed, what for, how much and to whom. Her “kindness” is a complete betrayal to her family.
Around blcs never relax....😊
What a wise comment! very well said! Very truthful!
It wasn't kind to the public to recommend a killer get released from prison.
@@dce64 I mean it is america so what did you expect?? The people are quite literally out of their minds lmfao
Forgiving and befriending are 2 different things. This was insane.
Kills 2 people and is out of prison in 23 yrs. Make it make sense.
Coddle the murderers and screw the victims families. The justice system is a joke.
@@frankskoda-simmonsno. Families of victims also have the power to forgive. Understand forgiveness in its definition. She didn’t have to trust him and befriend him, but forgiving is always best for the victims and/or victim’s families.
What is insane is how thoughtless and clueless inconsiderate people are; especially, at this day and age, when we should be wiser and better informed.
Exactly she’s insane
@@rahmanhammond8324
What evidence substantiates that forgiveness "is always best for the victims"?
Is this another liberal trope?
this is just depressing. i'm not victim blaming, but come on. it seems to me like she was trying so hard to show everyone what a forgiving and virtuous person she was that she completely lost sight of who she was actually dealing with. if the mother of the guy who killed your mother is telling you to watch out, you should probably listen
@@alejandrocueto5099 Interesting line of thought. But don't you think she might just as well have been a Christian, as in "whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also?"
@@1man_crowd yes, is possible
I think she got what she deserved - doesn't make sense to help your mothers killer
@@veganandlovingitagreed,
@@veganandlovingitMaybe she thought it was her path to healing. Just like you chose to be a vegan 🤷🏽♀️ Have you had a mother murdered before? No, so how dare you judge her mindset. Ppl forgive/befriend killers of loved ones everyday. Doesn't warrant death 🤦🏽♀️
Credit to the guys mom for warning Martha that her son was back to his old ways. I’m sure that was not easy to do considering this woman had just forgiven the unforgivable and was doing so much for him.
Kindness is looked at as weakness by these predators.
Because it is when going out of your way to be kind to murderers 🙄
To predators in general, not just the Black ones! They come in all colors!
People from third world countries behave like this, life is so hard by giving kindness means you are weak and need to be taken advantage of.
This was exactly what weakness is..
@kyleanuar9090 America is a third-world country!
I never understand why people think prison rehabilitates someone, it's simply not the case.
People mostly come out worse
100%
Or they were beyond rehabilitation long before they entered prison.
Especially going in at such a young age.
We do not rehabilitate we incarcerate. Prison system needs overhauled but some folks do not know how to live in society.
American prisons aren't designed to rehabilitate. They're built for punishment above all else. That's why a lot of prisoners tend to come out worse than they came in.
This is so horrible. Forgiving someone does not mean you welcome them back into your life to do the same thing again. You forgive them for you. You keep away from them because they’re still them. I’ve been saying this and living by it my whole life, and it’s served me well.
You can tell she was one of those people that think they can change everyone.
Or that she hates her mother.
Yes the most annoying of most annoying people to ever exist who disrupt balance in society
@@LizzieLizzie-im9tqthis is literally what I thought. I bet she hated her mom. Probably did a death spell on her mom and it worked but the thing about spells is they go back to the sender who sent. Their karma
Yup those whtttte saviors
Yes i’m spelling whttte wrong because if I don’t youtube will hide my comments lol
Forgiving doesn't mean forgetting what happened. You can forgive just to let go of the hatred and bitterness that would drag you down but to befriend the person who murdered your mother and stepfather in cold blood during a robbery? No damn way.
Without writing him in jail, advocating for his release, picking him up after release, giving him a job, and letting him into her home.....
she could have forgiven him - RIGHT THERE, in her heart. Nothing more or else was needed, which is why this had NOTHING to do with forgiveness, but something else.
what do you think it was then?
I think she was trying to help him because his mom worked for her and she knew him mom was a good person but she forgot how evil this man was and sadly he killed her too. I remember watching this on investigate discovery on tv. Cold blooded murderer
EXACTLY 💯
I feel like Martha was a genuinely good person, but I also feel like it was a massive disrespect to her dead family members; to befriend their killer. Almost a selfish act. Possibly done, to try and quell some sort of deep-seeded guilt that she should not have been burdening herself with in the first place.
Nailed it. I guarantee she had been made to feel guilty of her family's wealth. Not by the murderer, but by society in general and the media specifically.
@@battlefrog2818holy crap man good job catching that. Completely changed my understanding of her comment. Thank god you exist. What would we do without you?
She must have learned this notion of love from the so-called Buddha a.k.a Gautam who loved his young family and his little kingdom so much that he totally abandoned them and relinquished himself of all responsibilities concerning them.
@@AHD2105 Because turning to the vile Buddhism and its idolatry of the Fallen Man is CRAZY.
So, do the wise thing while you can and turn instead to the Risen Lord who Alone has Loved you with His SAVING LOVE and made the otherwise impossible Salvation possible for you.
The funny thing is, I think deep-seeded sounds better lol @@battlefrog2818
I am disgusted that this guy killed this lady who was his Mom's employer and his biggest advocate. He is PURE EVIL!!!
He was a snake. Snakes bite and kill.
No, the parole board is pure evil, staffed by Shrinks, "educated" in Ivory Towers.
They set him free.....and of course, as in many cases like these, they suffer NO accountability for their actions....thus, more coming.
that's why shouldn't associate with these people. if they don't do it themselves, they will bring their demon associates into your life to do it.
@@karlscher5170stop !
At the end of the day he was just black
@@karlscher5170snakes actually kill when provoked or hungry. Same as humans
There’s never a case for victim blaming, but this is about the closest it gets.
I'm extremely shocked she wasn't married she was super hot and a beautiful spirit this guy is possessed by a demon wtf .
I find it very hard to have any sympathy for her. All I feel is pity.
my thought exactly, play stupid games win stupid prizes
@@monteraidThis. Shameful to befriend your mom’s killer.
I don't even feel pity. That was just plain asinine, foolish, and a disservice to your mother and the other gentleman that was murdered.
I have pity for her, because she did Not deserve what happened to her or her Family members!
She damn sure didn't deserve Her Mother being brutally Murdered!
She was probably so misguided and very naive, or she thought she could save him?!
She probably Never was around anyone as cold and messed up as Travis Lewis?!
Or she had a bad case of White guilt and wanted to be a "White Savior", in that case she was Stupid!
Wasted life. Wasted death.
Wow how absolutely ridiculous to forgive your mothers killer, sadly ive no empathy for her (yes i know shes dead), she betrayed her mother's memory and her loyalty was not to her Mama but to her own ego.
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Olympic level virtue signalling narcissism. She forgave the brutal murder of her own mother but she drew the line at the theft of the $14,000 she pocketed from her mother's chandelier.
It remains unknown whether there was any intimacy between the two. It there was, the whole sordid mess is on another level of sick.
I wholeheartedly agree.
@@pietro4772 I said the same thing , intimacy is unknown
An eye for an eye. There are certain crimes that are not forgivable, and redrum is one of them. The entire family wimped out by not going to trial in the first place to make sure this evil doer was executed, then their daughter decided to let the devil back in. Dumb as rocks.
I want the guys in prison to see that this same beautiful spirited lady tried to help him even after killing her mom . They won't appreciate that at all.
Her ignorance and stupidity is what got her killed. The disconnected from reality some people have is beyond me. 🤦🏽♂️
I agree, they do not fear things.
It sounds like she was doing Restorative justice. Where victims and offenders met and discuss what happens. RJ has proven many times to work. Recidivism goes down and victims get closure. It’s just a difficult concept for a few people because people are accustom to “get caught and jailed” but clearly it doesn’t work. Jails are packed and people keep committing crime. It’s just a constant circle in the American criminal system. Glad they’re slowly moving to RJ.
There’s only one type of person in the world that would do this. A white progressive woman. Prove me wrong.
Forgiveness and love are not real. But her corpse is real fucking real 🤣🤣
@@DontPretendtoCare you on the brink of being disrespectful
This is one of the saddest stories I’ve ever heard in my life. This lady absolutely never deserved this. May she rest in peace
Forgiving and befriending your mothers killer? The disrespect, the audacity just nah I can't feel bad for her that was so utterly stupid. He should've been put in the dirt long ago
She betrayed her mother
Yes the family said that he was dangerous but she was extremely stupid.Trusting him a murderer😢
It feels like she didn’t love her mother much considering she did such a stupid thing.
to forgive someone like that takes alot of effort honestly, more effort than you'll ever have in your life
@@Mechaysall that "effort" and where did it get her exactly? Six feet under. Good for her....? What's impressive about that? Do gooders are their own worst enemies, what they see as strength everyone else sees as weakness. Especially people with nasty motives who look for vulnerable prey. Bleeding hearts are the easiest people to manipulate, they make easy marks for these criminals because they want to see the good in everyone and refuse to listen to reason. Case in point...
It always baffles me how scared people who murder are of death.
When it's their time to pay the piper, they scream the loudest! Yes they are terrified of death
What, you thought the monsters who play this kind of a game in life actually had any honor ???
@@bentonrp no absolutely not no honor.
I agree insay this everytime I see it in a case... or when they cry or screaming when get sentence period... like they could take somebody's life and not get any type of repercussion for it.🤬🤷♀️🤦♀️
Same. Or people who are very violent not liking to feel pain.
Victims are often vulnerable and the killer knows this and can creep back in…same for an abuser. She went to him for closure in her loss and thought forgiveness would be what she needed. I hope this man certainly pays for taking innocent lives
That's appalling and tragic. You can forgive whomever you choose, but you owed him nothing....condolences to the bereaved.
She owed her mother some dignity and to stay loyal to her
One of the most compassionate responses I've read on this thread ... blessings to you.
@@jr7845which means she can still forgive but should have stayed cleared away. Forgiveness is NOT the for the person it’s for yourself.
@jr7845
She said "she owed HIM nothing"
This is a spiritual battle. This family were slavers, and gained their wealth from slavery. They lived in a home built by slaves. They even had ' servants" to continue their legacy of the antebellum. The daughters attempt to cleanse her families ghost by becoming Buddhist and practice forgiveness did not prevent what was destiny. Their ties to evil runs deep.
Can’t imagine forgiving someone and inviting them into your world after doing something so horrible. Evil people don’t deserve forgiveness or kindness. The sentiment is nice but the outcome will never end well. The only good thing that came of this was his own ending. He can’t hurt any more people
It's a real shame he didn't get the death penalty...
Evil, yes. That's the key word. One needs to distance oneself from evil people.
Stupidity in a false religion is what ultimately ended her life. Sad
@JRS7777 All religions are equally false, yours included.
And Buddhism absolutely does not preach blind forgiveness. So her being Buddhist had nothing to do with her stupidity.
Forgiveness is one thing but stupidity is another
This is why unprovoked murderers should not be forgiven. A life for a life.
Unprovoked murder?
@@kholetAndreunlike king von and most killers in the hood who kill off of revenge,anger disrespect or a traumatic situation. someone who kills with no intent or reason. just the like or the thrill to kill somebody is a unprovoked killer
@@brooklyndorsey3562 That reasoning is flawed.
@@kholetAndreNo it isn’t, your mind’s messed up
@@kholetAndresomeone murdering for the sake of murder vs someone murdering with a reason in mind basically
Forgiveness isnt for the person that hurt you. Forgiveness is for you so you can move on and have another chance at life. You dont have to sit at the same table as someone you forgave. In this case of scenario she should of moved on and not contact him. Rip, very sad.
I absolutely agree. So sad she did that, very naive, and he saw her kind (but naive) gesture as a weakness, like all predators do..... absolutely awful 😥
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I don't understand that. Why can't you move on with your life without forgiving someone? I haven't forgiven my abusers and I don't feel trapped or stuck in any way. I wouldn't wish bad things on them or anything but I don't forgive them.
@@SpecialBlanket; exactly. I will never forgive some people. That by no means, means I am stuck in life or haven’t moved on. I am deff living my life how I want, but that abuse will never be erased and yes always be part of my history. Live anyway. Live despite the wrongs and live your life.
@@Khaleesi_Jackthats right too. At longs its not holding you back. Live anyway.
My mother is dead so I can speak on this. The pain of losing a mother is unbearable !!! Forgiveness don’t mean befriend
Man this is so frustrating. So many great people out here that would've appreciated that woman m
Forgiveness to those who deserve it is commendable. But it isn't the virtue some think. Some people are beyond helping.
I’m not forgiving a killer
@@basketballexpert4584what if they killed a pedophile or a worse murderer
@@JoJoZakathose things are subhuman so it doesn't count
Exactly. Some people don't realize that forgiveness can be wasted on the wrong people. They've got this idea in their head that they need to forgive to move on. Heal the anger yes, but you can move on without bending backwards to forgive the unforgivable.
Forgiveness is earned not given out freely.
There's no need to forgive without repentance. The person needs to acknowledge their bad behavior take accountability for it. They need to show/demonstrate remorse for what they did & be genuinely sorry/ remorseful/ repent for it.
I don't know anything about Buddhism, but haven been a Christian 54 years I don't understand how christians don't understand this it's clearly laid out in their bible.
We heathens understand this 🙄
She was foolish.
Oh well 🤷
Two type of people you should never allow in your house, drug addicts and thieves even if they've never stolen from you, eventually it will happen. And never share any financial news about yourself with them, things like you're trying to sell something valuable ect.
Exactly. I don't share with anybody period. Can't trust nobody not even your own family.
Nah.
All I CAN trust 100% is my family.
Even my family members and I that don’t get along have each other’s backs when we need to.
Ppl have such a warped perception of forgiveness.
The daughter was a wonderful forgiving person but insanely naive. Could someone who committed such a horrific crime really be rehabilitated and trusted?
and even if so, why did she feel it was her job to do so? Doesn't make sense.
No this is not nativity,
She was not naive. She was interested in the guy trying to play to play the white saviour fantasy just oike the movie ( the blind side)
Supposedly base on a true story of a white woman saving a black teen .
Which was proved now by the same black teen now an adult that the story was not true .
He wrote a book about it
Apparently not.
No.
A double murderer should never be released from prison.
Not only did he Killed them he Robbed them and destroyed everything they owned he was wreckless
Talk about passing down generational wealth. Condolences to their family🙏🏾💐
Forgiveness should be conditional, not compulsive/mandatory.
To forgive, first the trespasser must regret. He clearly doesn't, so there is nothing to forgive. It's almost like she was HAPPY he took her mother.
she lived a very sheltered and privileged life not realizing the real world dangers.
That is a rather interesting train of thought. That is *Profound* .
Exactly He's A menace to society. Rip to the victims.
Can't be that naive tho 😂
@@MichaelFagan-wn9fpI agree with both of you
@@MichaelFagan-wn9fp umm, yes, she was.
I genuinely feel sorry for the family. That beautiful family home their patriarch built and the openness and kindness this woman tried to have for him but that she was also the employer of his mother who they still kept after her son killed their family member. What a loss. A really hate when kind people die of anything other than old age after a life well lived.
She's the type that would put her arm in an animal enclosure, thinking she has some mystical ability to connect and disarm predators.
She’d be the type to put her arm in there to put the tiger, and then get the tiger killed
@@spiralroseshe obviously wouldn't want the tiger killed
@@spiralrose but inadvertently, yeah
@@Powerstealhe said she'd put her arm in the cage to pet him and then get the tiger killed. Presumably because he attacked her. So while I don't think she would be demanding his death, her actions would still result in the tiger being destroyed, regardless of her intent. So...'inadvertently'
How utterly sad to know that you can be killed by an act of kindness 😢
That was not an act of kindness....rather was an act of extreme stupidity or virtue signaling.
@@PhaoanEgypt
Agree
She acted in many ways, I would not call it kindness though, perhaps sucidal, stupid, dishonorable.
Her stages of grief must’ve been an odd case. Helping someone who you aided in putting into prison is just delusional!
No good deed goes unpunished sadly.
How come she didn't forgive him for stealing?
"She came upon a poisonous snake frozen in the snow. She took the snake home and nursed it back to health. One day the snake bit her on the cheek. As she lay dying, she asked the snake, "Why have you done this to me?" And the snake answered, "...Look, b*tch, you knew I was a snake.""
People can't change unless they genuinely want to change, and 95% of people don't see a problem with anything they do, regardless of who it hurts.
You can forgive someone who wronged you, but still have the sense to stay a thousand miles (plus several feet of concrete and metal bars, ideally) away from them.
Thissss 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿 Yesssss 👏🏿
How original.
Not the snake cussed her out 😂
@@4dyamondx745yeah, that's why i put quotation marks around the part that's a quote.
but hey, cliched internet sarcasm by someone who missed something obvious. how original.
Eve was mesmerized
by the killer serpent
He's got to be the worst getaway driver in the history of crime.
Forgiveness STILL requires strong boundaries and self love, which she both lacked, may she RIP
The problem is people think forgiveness means being pals and helping the other guy. All forgiveness is is not hating them. A righteous person forgives, a fool forgets. After all, forgiveness doesn't change the person's nature.
Very true
I commend her desire to forgive the 16yo boy who committed the crime, but fostering a relationship with the 38yo convict another matter.
Exactly.... Spent his life in prison 😒 NO WAY
Befriending your mother’s murderer is the greatest form of betrayal, I have no sympathy for her
She deserves that shit I feel like she betrayed her mother
@@madifof8169agreed well said
@@madifof8169you talking crap she doesn't deserve to die
@@youngdkoutYes, she does. What kind of demented fuck befriends someone who murdered their mother? That's completely disrespectful to your mom and if there's an afterlife your mother is looking at you with disgust.
@@madifof8169
I wouldn't say she deserved that shyt, but she definitely got what she bargained for🧐
It's hard for some people to except that some people are just evil, regardless of background, economic situation or whatever unfortunate situation made them that way. Many people who do evil things are actually evil, you have to be able to judge character and not just believe whatever makes you feel better about the world you live in.
Often bleeding hearts lack the insight to realize that some people are wired differently and will always be incredibly dangerous.
They’re demonically possessed -straight up evil-loom at his eyes
He couldn't drive the getaway car the first time, and he couldn't drive it the second time either.
What a monster he was.
And a terrible driver TOO!!
And this is why having boundaries and forgiving people from afar is important.
She literally put everyone in danger by doing that… she was so selfish and naive 😭 I feel bad for her.
She was too naive and he is a monster
Funny how she wasn't naive after he stole from her...
Nah she was a monster as well disrespecting her mom
She was not naive.
Read about the exposed story of the movie ( the blind side )
About a white woman who helped a black teen.
The black teen now an adult man exposed the woman and her family. They used him
@@earthynomad7160what? I read the discription, there's no such thing in the discription. Are you tripping, mate.
Naive...... no she was a monster as well.
I don’t understand why Travis didn’t get life without parole for murdering 2 people, setting the house on fire and stealing/crashing the car. I mean… how??? Idc how young he was, he’s clearly a danger to society.
Because the victims were huyite
Likely a combination of how young he was, the fact he didn't enter the house with the intention of killing them, and the victims family not wanting him to spend the rest of his life in prison.
This story is crazy. Im feel justified in that i don't give people second chances. Anyone that does me dirty can go on about their lives, but never with my help.
Yup, people might change, but they can prove it to the next person.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Second chances are what we should have as humans but it also
depends on the extremity of the action. Sadly, some were stuck in families that abuse their powers thus have a skewed sense of right and wrong.
Even forgiveness has it limit, this woman is beyond save .
Exactly why murderers need to stay in prison. Why would they ever do any better if they know they're just going back to freedom anyway?
I'll never forgive the people who killed my wife. Not now, not ever. And I'd bet a million $ this murderer knew they were home.
Sorry for your loss.
I’m sorry you lost your love man.
Wow if someone killed my wife, I’ll be sitting in prison right now because I’ll find them
I’m so sorry for your loss
@miguelrobb5719 okay tough guy lol calm down behind your keyboard
Forgiveness is a change in you , not in the other person…
Wise words.
Very well said.
I couldn't see myself forgiving to someone who killed one of my family member.
Travis really did a number on any criminal that could actually have the ability to be rehabilitated.
Moral of the story: Forgiveness is not mandatory. You can be happy in life without having to forgive the people who’ve seriously wronged you
Some people need to forgive to move on, it's more about your own piece of mind.
You can forgive without holding onto hate. That doesn’t mean you should forget.
I think her mistake was forgiving AND forgetting. She started treating him like a regular person, rather than a murderer.
Exactly my point.
THANK YOU! Even if the person legitimately changes and tries to become a better person you still don't have to forgive them.
"I can fix him"
Maybe she needed people to see how spiritual and better than most other people she was. Maybe she had a martyr complex. Maybe she didn't want her family telling her how to llive. Maybe all of the above. She was definitely unwise. So sad for both families...
Maybe she hated her mother.
I’m so happy for her. She wanna show blacks how much she love em!
She employed his mother, knew the family and was obviously giving him the benefit of the doubt that at the age of 16 years he made the worst decision of his life. Unfortunately she was proved wrong at the cost of her own life.
@@Jachi_Michael yep she’s one of those whttte saviors that learned the hard way 😂
@@Jachi_Michael This is not all black people. I'm black and never killed anyone. All races of people are capable of killing someone. It is the individual person that can be evil. In her case so knew that person was evil and still wanted to be cool.
They were both punished in the end, her for befriending the man whom killed her family, and him for being given a second chance at life and abusing her kindness.
Life truly goes in full circle this is proof of karma 🤯
This should be pinned
Some people are so forgiving that they do befriend enemies or go back to friendships that don’t belong our hearts are very deceiving
A good example of directing your sympathy in the wrong direction
I truly 100% believe in living by the phrase "Forgive, but never forget." You can forgive someone for commiting an atrocity against you or your family, but you must never stop treating them as a person capable of commiting such atrocities. They have already proven that is who they are. She did not deserve this at all, unfortunately some people will just never stop taking advantage of pure people to harm them
Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.
Worked in a prison and these animals absolutely despise kindness. They see it as weakness and they believe that if you are weak then you deserve to be prey.
Wow.
They are psychopaths so they don’t have no sympathy for forgiveness and kindness
I've been in prisons and I've seen inmates stop a rape and save a guards life
That’s why they can’t be rehabilitated. Death penalty for all
Please don't insult animals. Even animals recognize kindness. Animals are much more civilized than these demons !
Killer eyes always look so strange... Like a thousand-yard stare on default.
Killers Eyes Always Looks So Emotionless It Creeps Me Out
Dead eyes . Run the other way . Don’t engage . Don’t enrage . Try to slip into the background and go unnoticed by those with dead eyes . That’s my advice .
I did a little business with an 19th street gang cliques boss . His dead eyes made my blood run cold . When he would be MIA for awhile , the teenagers would behave like kids again. Laughter and joking . I always imagined he’d killed another person and was laying low or crossed the border . When he returned ? He demanded discipline from the kids - whose laughter and joking were lost in his presence . That man’s image is burned into my memory and I wouldn’t want him to ever think I owed him a dime or looked at him the wrong way . I’m thankful we parted ways without any display of just what he was capable of . He was the most frightening person I’ve ever been in close quarters with and would be happy never to meet another dead eyed human again .
The legal and justice system let the victims down with the atrociously short sentence, and then she let her mother down by forgiving this person.
Yet another great crime story, well done on these!
Some people just don't deserve forgiveness.
I think she really wanted to believe this 16 year old was just in need of guidance and felt even more empathy because of the good nature of his mother.
Wokeness
In the end she got what she asked for
I doubt it. I think she was just a virtue signaler who got murked for her troubles. “Hey everybody look at me. Look at how good of a person I am!!” You know, that type.
@@bigpapi6688naw in people magazine her family said she bought his story that he didn’t kill them, that he had an accomplice in the burglary and the accomplice was the killer. She believed he was a 16 yo who just got caught up with the wrong person and got unfairly framed for murder. Her view was twisted because she believed his account of things.
Man! I’m so conflicted. Your storytelling is so concise, organized, compelling, and flows so well. I really enjoy your deep dives, but man, the stories are so horrific! I want to watch more, but they are soo creepy.
Anyways… excellent work. I will subscribe for support. Btw, the Supreme Gentleman video was so well done! I watched the entire 3.5 hour video nonstop. You should be directing in Hollywood!
So disrespectful towards her mother
Imagine how the rest of her family felt about her befriending her mother’s killer, talk about betrayal ! I don’t feel sorry for her she was asking for it
Exactly
Facts what a dummy 😂
Not a fan of the phrase "asking for it" but in this case "You get what you pay for" sure fits...
@@kymo6343 HEAVY ON THAT
I’m not a fan of the phrase you get what you pay for… But yeah she was asking for it fa sure. She probably wanted to get married and have his baby.
This sounds like a situation i would get into 😢 As a empath I understand the struggle of forgiveness and setting boundaries ❤️ therapy teaches how to do both
Finally a sane person in these comments. These soulless people in the comments are over here blaming her
You gotta still have some discernment
@@newgenerationtechnology2930 exactly thats not an excuse to lack common sense..and if you have to tell people youre an empath you probably arent one
One thing being a news and crime junkie has taught me is that criminals don’t know how to drive.
Anyone who can kill people without remorse will definitely not want to be a model driver. They don't care and that's why they end up in the ditch.
Interesting.
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That poor mother has to live with the fact that her son was such a POS…. and was unfortunate enough to live to see him commit the same mistakes… this really is just super sad.
Sometimes there's just a bad seed, but 95% chance he was the product of her own mistakes.
I wouldn’t call committing murder on two separate occasions, mistakes.
I would not call it a mistake, though.
@@msmoco5898 mis·take
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noun
an action or judgment that is misguided or wrong.
@@dawnfire82- so presumptuous of you to conclude that. She may have been molested/raped and became pregnant with him… who knows. The seed determines what a child is born with. Environment and love can only do so much; the rest is up to the individual.
Excellent content! Thank you! I am always learning a lot from cases like this!
Imagine the audacity for someone to take up residence in your home and take your life
Thr fact that he even got out after killing two people is nuts
I love her determination... Will, and desire. Unfortunately, this is not the perfect world that is warranted for such divinity... RIPOWER....❤
what a loser, crashing the car he stole and getting caught immediately, then years later getting his own car stuck in mud and drowning in the lake, both times fleeing from senseless murder.
It seems as though it were a socialite "pick me" move. Disregarding what he had done, disrespecting the family , the mother's death, the uncle's death, acting as though she were the all forgiving type to learn from (which no one should heed that advice)...it all hits the wrong nerve. She endangered everyone around her by inviting him in, by even contacting him and providing a soft place to land. It should be considered luck that she is the only person that was injured or lost her life in this case.
Fully agreed, I didn't even consider that last bit. Maybe ppl preferred to keep out of her house cause she was so open about housing a murderer thief lol
That's a good point! She endangered everyone around her with her decision, too!
"When someone decides to show you their true colors, don't try to repaint them."
Perfect explanation
Well stated
Forgiveness doesnt make your enemy your friend.Lack of knowledge
This is why temperance should be practiced more. Temperance is not just mercy towards wrongdoing but a self-restraint not to let your emotions get the better of you in some anger fuelled need for Justice, as well as recognizing that certain people shouldn't be forgiven and to walk away from them.
Martha as good hearted as she was, was extremely naive. People can change, but there are some that should never be forgiven, especially if they taken the life of their own mother.
I don't blame her in trying to cast aside hatred, but there are better ways to do it. Travis really went past the line of being human into something less than in a morbid thought. Regardless if it was drugs in his system or not, the man was still willing to kill just to get whatever. Seeing only Sally, and Martha as obstacles and nothing more despite Martha trying her all to give the man another chance and hope he could change for the better.
Honestly this is a sad case to watch as one woman's good graces was naive and a crook's inability to change. A tragic end all concerning.
That's wild, some people can't be forgiven. You can still forgive and keep distance regardless
My condolences to her family...it's truly a sad case. I understand forgiveness but you have to recognize who you are dealing with. Once a person shows you who they are that's it ...they don't change.
A little hate is a very good surviving skill.
Lord forgive me but I lol'd at him jumping in the lake and drowning.
At least taxpayers didn't have to house his evil self for another couple decades.
Yeah. Guess the rumors are true. They can't swim.
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He would be released in 18 years for good behaviour
@@DrymouthCWWbahahaha, you got me figured out.
Racist much????
The lady suffered from trauma bond, she needed professional help the moment she decided to befriend him.
Dear god why do people feel so desperate to forgive people??? Hold! your! grudges! people! You are not a bad person because you’re mad someone wronged you.
Imo forgiving is... okay? It's okay if you don't want yo hate someone forever, the problem here is that she went out of her way to befriend her mom's killer. Forgiving does not mean you have to be buddy buddy with someone
Yeah I would never forgive anyone if they took the life of someone I loved.
Boundaries.
I agree, it's taken me forever to understand that forgiveness is overated, it's the bullshit that is fed to people to guilt trip them.
I think forgiving is best, but it doesn't mean you should renounce your ability to think rationally, a person who has murdered in cold blood can do it again anytime so they should remain in prison for life, not because of vengeance but to protect society.