#84: Offensive and defensive options from the hand post single.
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- In wrestling we are taught to snap people down so their hands go to the mat. There’s many reasons for this. One is that when his hand is on the mat, his back is now parallel to the floor, which takes away his power. Another reason is that now I can control his hand and prevent his offense. In general, I want my wrestlers to keep their hands off the mat when they are working on shots. It opens up a whole series of things for the defensive player that he did not have until his hand hit the mat. If you’re very high level, you know the risks. But if you aren’t, this is a good fundamental thing to understand and avoid. Stick to the fundamentals. Do the John Smith outside single finish. Do the cutback if he isn’t stuffing your head. You’re unlikely to recover a high head position when the defensive man is doing the proper defense and stuffing your head.
So good to see you back on the mats! Peace and love to Placido. ❤
Peace and love to everyone for sure. I just want people to get better. People need to know these things
Somewhere Placido is begrudgingly taking notes muttering “Fuck this guy”
Lol!! Not sure what there is to say. Everything I am showing here is classic wrestling techniques that we start showing to 10 year old kids. I was going to show these techniques long before he showed it. Even if another collegiate wrestler is showing it, that doesn’t mean it’s the best option for new wrestlers to go to when they get resistance. There’s just too many things that open up for the defender
I am just here to teach classic wrestling to BJJ people because they want it. They should be getting instruction from an actual wrestler, not someone who calls themselves a wrestling coach and was never part of a wrestling team. That’s like lying on a resume. I don’t teach classic BJJ because although I do BJJ, I am not an expert. And bro, it’s even worse for judo. These people trying to teach judo is painful
OH MY GOD. BREZA UPLOADED A NEW VIDEO. AND IT'S ON THE THING THAT MADE PLACIDO PISS HIS ADULT DIAPERS. IT'S A GOOD DAY.
Lmfao!! Funny thing is I was actually going to make a video about hands on the mat a long time ago and got hurt. Then while I am suffering from post surgery, I am watching people show that recovering head position and am like OMG man, please stop that rarely works without opening up more issues.
Then I started converting over VHS tapes and saw me doing it a bunch of times. I need to make a montage video of me breaking the grip and using the front headlock to the back off the hand post. So many times I scored off that. Stick to the basics. If you have to let go, then go to his hands, not the mat
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 ua-cam.com/video/ww5bEhpBKSQ/v-deo.html
Hey bro, um, just wondering. What are your thoughts on this technique from a failed crackdown high crotch finish. I'm just asking because I see you talk about having to stick to fundamentals and things that work for mortals and not just the elites (I.E jordan burroughs), and wonder if this gets your seal of approval for being usable by mortals like me.
@stinkysteve8392 legit bro! Because a good wrestler will block the elbow and prevent the transition to the double. I actually did a transition to the single on the last video I posted because he had a wicked crossface and I wouldn’t have been able to get to the backside. So, it depends on what defense he is doing. A lot of people nowadays don’t sprawl and crossface. They hang over the back. But if you wrestle with an oldtimer like me, we will go to the sprawl and crossface, which will make this transition harder. So, it always depends on what defense he is doing.
Hand hits the floor = that hand is bearing substantial load from the whole system (weight+ driving force of the grapplers)
Hands locked on leg = the grip/leg interface is bearing a majority of the load from the whole system. Defender's leg is less free to move. When your hand hits the floor he gets more mobile because a lot of the load just got redirected from being aimed at him to being aimed at the ground.
I think, lol.
Yes. And the load is then transferred to the lower back and the posted hand, which weakens you and limits mobility
Good to see you back doing instructionals! Fundamentals like these are super useful for me. We don't really have any culture of freestyle and folkstyle wrestling where I'm from, so video learning is my primary method of adapting wrestling tech for BJJ.
Thank you! Yeah, I started doing this because I realized people didn’t have access to good wrestling coaching. Jordan Preisinger and I made a wrestling for bjj instructional, which is very high quality. Go to wrestlingforbjj.com if you want to check that out
Great stuff! Glad to see you back.
Good to be back man!
Good stuff. I like the comment at tge end where the guys says rules matter. Personally I developed a game that lets me do judo, wrestling and jujitsu. Both gi and no gi because no gi judo is a thing where Im living. Its amazing how much thevrules changes a move.
Definitely changes what you want to do with it. The wrestling for BJJ is essentially folk style wrestling. But of course there’s not as much of a threat of going to the back and that changes shit. Just like how Alec said, ok I don’t like where this hand post single is going, so I am gonna two on one and pull guard. And he will keep that two on one and it makes everything more difficult
welcome back
luv your content even though i'm not a wrestler
It’s for nonwrestlers who want to learn, so you’re in the right place!
Can you do more videos with Alec and the judo team? You said alot of good things about them like that the coach showed exelent judo sequences just like you did show wrestling sequences. And he had different sequences for whatever body type the opponent has, if he is bigger or smaller and what not.
I am currently at a judo gym where I am probably the best (thanks to you. I can beat all of them even though I don't weigh much) (I am in a country where grappling is not that popular though).
And they respect me and I can drill with them when I want, like take two guys to do 3 man uchi komis and such. I have the perfect circumstances to drill those sequences.
Please coach
I could probably do some gi based stuff in the future. They know a lot of shit man
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 man that would be awesome.
Beautiful new place you are recording
Yeah this is Alec’s place! And he just bought those mats. We need help paying for the place as he is going nonprofit and we want to keep prices low in this low income area
thanks for the advice man, i appreciate it a lot💯
My pleasure brother
as a Joseph Breza alt account I approve of this move
Hahahahah!!! People are gonna think that is true man, lol! That makes it even better I suppose, lol! You’re an OG on this channel
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 the channel has done a lot for me. I do hope you continue creating instructional content and courses. I wouldn't hesitate to pay another $100 to learn how develop a powerful snap, for example.
Nice video
And the vibe at the end when the coach said something was different hahaha. Like a movie. You don't see him, mysterious grand master end boss tells great technique.
But the talk afterwards where everyone said their opinion showd that you aren't the villains.
Yeah he doesn’t like being on camera. He actually walked out there and showed us some shit, but he would hurt me if I posted him. 😂😂 wrist locks and knee bars from hell 😂😂
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 hahaha yes I respect that. It's still a good way to share his knowledge that you guys show us what he tells you and we really appreciate this.
Plus this makes him seem very cool hahaha.
@@BMO4ever he is awesome man. He runs the Eastern Michigan University judo and MMA clubs. He is a professor of martial arts
We missed you Joe!
I missed it man!
Thank you for this demonstration Breza. What's the difference between your YT channel and the Patreon?
On the Patreon, I am going to do full length breakdowns. Just about every single breakdown I made on UA-cam was demonetized and hit for copyright infringement. I don’t want to get any more of those because I don’t want them to shut down my channel. So, I am pretty sure that Patreon is not coming after content creators.
Something I've always wanted to ask a high level wrestler is, how legitimate is no gi Judo? My thinking was that wrestling would look like no gi judo if it was effective at a high level. From what I've seen it mostly doesn't, so no gi judo is just wrestling but putting too much attention on moves that aren't high percentage.
On the other hand, this channel frequently mentions judo more than any other wresting instructionals I've seen. Thoughts? Glad to see you putting out wrestling videos again.
The judo in noGi has the same issues with wrestling in noGi. It’s primarily taught by people without a judo or wrestling background, so they make thousands of mistakes.
I had two high level judokas on my college wrestling team and they were frickin awesome man. JFlo is also awesome. The difference is they are masters of judo and wrestling. Not just some guy who thinks footsweeps look cool and so they teach them with poor technique. So if you want to learn judo, learn it from a judoka. If you want to learn wrestling, learn it from a wrestler. And you can easily modify the judo to use without a gi. Watch JFlo. He is the man for that
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 Love watching Jflo's channel.
I guess my follow up would be how important is no gi judo if you're trying to learn takedowns for nogi. From watching your videos it sounds like the most useful move is uchi-mata as an underhook counter. Where would you rank that in the list of most important moves? Compare with fundamental moves like double legs or snap downs. Would it be top 5? top 10?
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ I think that is honestly impossible for me to answer, because there is no such thing as a top 5 or 10 move out of context. It is always context specific.
Uchi mata is also a wrestling position, we just call it a whizzer kick or elevating with the whizzer. So, you really need to learn a bunch of things that play into situations for what he is giving to you. A good example is ippon seoi nage. It’s a great takedown, but not if he is backing up. He has to be pushing. Even better if he is circling behind your back.
I am doing what I can on the channel to provide systems around certain positions so that you have an understanding of what is available offensively and defensively.
I would say that I honestly think judo has a steeper learning curve. When I do judo with judokas at my club, I can’t do shit when they are skilled. I feel like the technique needs to be super clean or it doesn’t work. I feel that for noGi guys, teaching them how to wrestle with a good system, which starts with having a fantastic stance will get them very far very fast. The problem is sifting through the bullshit online. People can’t “sell” the fundamentals I am teaching as well. I guarantee you that if I started posting high amplitude risky bullshit throws, that my channel would take off. But I refuse to do that. I am only doing this to give people a good foundation. When I am satisfied with the quality and quantity I have taught, I will stop doing this. It isn’t worth it. It takes a lot of time, I don’t make shit off of UA-cam, and I end up dealing with people who don’t know shit but have big mouths. So one the library of information is to my liking, I am done
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 Thanks for the detailed responses, a lot of good information here.
One thing I'll say is that one of the things that drew me to your channel is that you approach it as a part-timer. You don't use weird gimmicks to make new videos and you focus on fundamentals. The day will come when you run out of fundamentals to talk about, but it won't be a huge deal since you're not trying to make UA-cam your career anyways.
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ I have enough details to probably teach forever, but I probably won’t.
We will see. I appreciate the positive feedback and am glad that you find it useful
Awesome! Are you in Michigan?
Yes sir!
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 Thank you, me too. What city and where do you train?
@rvfree1 Ypsilanti
could you please do a video on how to avoid the darce on a single leg, on the feet and the mat?
"7th degree judo, jj black belt, sambo, and former collegiate wrestler" jesus freakin christ...
Yeah dude! He is 76 and still rolls. It’s pretty fucking hard to do anything to him even at his age, because he knows all of your options. His hands are still strong too and the fucker will wristlock you when you have back control, lol
do you have any videos on set ups for single/double?
Yes, I have several. I even have a playlist of them
This video was nice i forget wrestling stuff since i only did a year im 19 and no schools near me I was wanting to integrate the cut back single I found craig jones power bottom which is very colligate wrestling style with some judo style stuff also some leg entereis all my personal bjj is kinda that style i think im a white belt so i am not good but i do try to work from turtle 🐢
It was a guard where you did some butterfly sweeps some wrestle up stuff some leg enteries and get ups or snap downs
Cutback is good when he has not covered your head with his hips or when he isn’t pushing on it. If he is, then you go right to the John Smith finish
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 just hit a cutback single was working positionals started in side control went in got the single leg hit cutback got into guillotine type position don't think he could have finished but missed von flue attack
@dirtygeazer9266 shelf his near leg that you have under your thigh and turn his hips away. Then yes you can climb up to that submission. Jordan Preisinger has excellent details on it. He did it to me and the room got quiet and fuzzy. And that was only for like 2s.
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 yeah I went for under hook type escape don't know what is called dog fight half guard style position I think I forgot about shelfing so kinda ended up ins half guard gave up on holding leg too early I think don't remember all details
I feel like the only reason to put your hand there is to knee slide so now your body is in line again and not hunched over so you can maybe go for a double leg style finish but idk if that is a good idea...?
Pretty much exactly what I did at 5:50
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 oh fuck my bad hahah only had time to watch the first half
@NiekMagnel LOL! Well first half is better than people on Reddit who comment about my technical ability and then say “oh well I didn’t watch the video.” Lol!!
This is good though man. If that was your solution to the problem then you understand the concept!
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 hahaha yeah that is a classic. will finish watching the rest now. good vid though once again
469 views in 20 hours bro fell off
Pretty typical for a technique video tbh. Maybe this cool troll comment will get like 500, lmfao