I submitted myself to a French pronunciation assessment 🙈 - How did it go?

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  • @FrenchinPlainSight
    @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому +13

    Alors, what did you learn about French pronunciation that you will take away? What is the first thing that comes to mind after watching?
    Thanks so much to Jean-Baptiste from Expatlang for this really fun and different type of video. I hope it gave you a refreshing perspective on what's important when speaking a foreign language.
    Check the video description for links to the 2nd video!

    • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
      @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +1

      That was so much fuuuuuun ! Thank you Alex :o). And I'd be curious to know what you all out there think about what correct French pronunciation is. Amazing Job Alex !🙏

    • @petercrew9169
      @petercrew9169 2 роки тому

      ¹1

  • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
    @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +29

    Wow, you've done such a great job with this video Alex. It looks amazing. And thank you so much for having me over on your channel. That was such a great collaboration. I'm still amazed by your pronunciation and your professionalism regarding French teaching. I wish I weren't a native French speaker to have lessons with you ! 💪 😀

    • @gabysadowyj1251
      @gabysadowyj1251 2 роки тому +2

      Salut mon ami. Je suis d’accord avec toi. Une vidéo formidable ! Love this collaboration. Je te verrai sur Skype comme d’habitude quand je rentrai en Angleterre. Bravo pour la vidéo !

    • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
      @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +2

      @@gabysadowyj1251 Salut Gaby. Quel plaisir de te retrouver sur la chaîne d'Alex. Je suis vraiment heureux qu'elle t'ait plu. Avec Alex, on a beaucoup travaillé pour ça ! Je te retrouve avec grand plaisir dès que tu rentres ! A très bientôt et profite bien de tes voyages :)

    • @mybestideas1
      @mybestideas1 Рік тому

      Congratulations to you! This video is one of the best, the most thought-out and well prepared on language videos on YT. Subscribed to both! Merci !

    • @ciaranredmond7776
      @ciaranredmond7776 Рік тому

      I admire your courage , and you are vindicated really fantastic I try to do what you do I know communication is king but I believe pronunciation is proper

  • @BGTuyau
    @BGTuyau Рік тому +1

    A must-view video for all Anglophone students of French, presented by two -count 'em- great French teachers! This is an instructive, entertaining -and, above all, useful- clinic in the matter of French pronunciation for English speakers, not only covering the mechanics of pronunciation but also taking a practical, real-world approach to the whys and wherefores of the matter. Worth viewing [and listening] more than once. Bravo et Merci les deux!

  • @FRENCHFAIRE
    @FRENCHFAIRE 2 роки тому +7

    Alex. You are so brave. I know your pronunciation is great. Very interesting to see the English influence in your convo. This happens to me more than I admit to while reading cognates. I absolutely love J-B’s info on prosody, rhythm, etc. It’s hard to get info on this. More of this is you can!! Often the info is contradictory. Great topic, examples. Merci. Très utile

  • @HeidiButkus
    @HeidiButkus Рік тому

    I really appreciated his overview of how the French language slides from one word to another without stopping. I also hadn’t heard that French words do not contain consistently stressed syllables in every word. This was very useful, and congratulations on getting an amazing pronunciation assessment!!

  • @mybestideas1
    @mybestideas1 Рік тому +2

    What a lovely and useful video. Amazing teacher, and good on you to be able to show us this. You just jumped up in my eyes multifold! BTW Pimsleur method is amazing for obtaining metropolitan French accent.

  • @christineyee2117
    @christineyee2117 2 роки тому +2

    To see you, a fantastic French speaker, receive corrections is inspiring, Alex. I wish I had learned pronunciation from JB back in school. Your collaborations are always top notch (I can’t even imagine how much work goes into making them).

  • @AndreaAvila78
    @AndreaAvila78 2 роки тому +1

    Alex, I think you speak French in a brilliant manner but I think your English accent is so lovely. I watch your videos to listen to your English, rather than your French. It's awesome!

  • @johnjones6601
    @johnjones6601 Рік тому

    "ç'est en forgeant qu'on devient forgerons".
    What a great saying! ❤

  • @OptLab
    @OptLab 2 роки тому +3

    Finally a great a precise video about pronunciation. This is excellent.
    - One thing however : as a native, not sure why he says E sound at the end of "maîtrise" should be pronounced.
    - Tu as l'air de prononcer "con" - naissance, hors c'est "co" - naissance.

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks!

    • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
      @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +1

      Bonjour Experiment. La prononciation du "E" final est sujet à de nombreuses variations linguistiques. Il ne faut pas oublier qu'Alex vit dans le Sud de la France et qu'on a tendance à plus les prononcer que dans le Nord. Cependant, même dans la moitié nord, il arrive qu'on en prononce un bon paquet sans s'en rendre compte. Ici, cependant, il ne s'agit pas de prononcer ce "E" final "EU", mais comme un "shwa", c'est à dire une voyelle très légère. 😀

    • @OptLab
      @OptLab 2 роки тому +1

      @@expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 ah, en effet tout s'explique. Merci pour ces interventions. Des expertises comme les vôtres manquent sur youtube. Très bonne initiative. Très instructif et ludique également.

    • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
      @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +1

      @@OptLab Avec grand plaisir

  • @Torontogal777
    @Torontogal777 2 роки тому +1

    Superb video! 👍🏿❤️ Much appreciated.
    Ah…those long sentence “snakes”, and those nasal sounds; so challenging!

  • @chrisbeale100
    @chrisbeale100 2 роки тому +2

    Love this! Lot’s of great takeaways, particularly love the snake analogy! 🐍

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому +2

      Hi Chris! Yea the snake is fantastic, right?? Makes it so easy to understand.

    • @chrisbeale100
      @chrisbeale100 2 роки тому +1

      @@FrenchinPlainSight Yes now I just have to remember this with everything else 🤪

    • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
      @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +2

      @@chrisbeale100 Step by Step 🙂

  • @theboyfromxtown
    @theboyfromxtown 2 роки тому +2

    You're a braver man than me but you did really well. Well done.

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому

      Thanks John. I thought it was an important exercise to do.

  • @ConnieCC58
    @ConnieCC58 2 роки тому +4

    I love seeing you two together! I watched your video on Jean-Baptiste’s channel yesterday and had a good chuckle during your sketches! This video was very interesting, as I studied linguistics and phonetics back in the day. Great tips, explained so clearly by Jean-Baptiste. Thanks to you both - you guys are the best! 😊

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Connie! It was fun to write and do the sketches. Top quality acting 😂.

    • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
      @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +3

      @@FrenchinPlainSight The best actors ever ! Hollywood should be calling pretty soon !

  • @fiyenalison7146
    @fiyenalison7146 2 роки тому +1

    Aww 2 of my favs together. Love it

  • @GB-kw4xt
    @GB-kw4xt 2 роки тому +1

    Une vidéo pour le moins "courageuse", mais aussi originale et qui fait découvrir ces très légers défauts que l'on ne perçoit pas chez toi Alex lorsque l'on t'écoute.

  • @susanstafford3781
    @susanstafford3781 2 роки тому +2

    Superbe ! Merci pour vos astuces, Jean-Baptiste. Bravo Alex ! Très impressionnant !

  • @Борис-ф9д
    @Борис-ф9д 2 роки тому

    Bonjour Jean -Baptiste! Super!!!!

  • @FRENCHFAIRE
    @FRENCHFAIRE 2 роки тому +1

    And it’s cute that J-B’s English pronunciation is « progressing » and not perfect. BT W I know about the non puffed French letter P but had no clue about the T. Merci encore

  • @ArRechouKreiz
    @ArRechouKreiz 2 роки тому +1

    I think that some of the supposedly improper pronunciations that JB pointed at (mande instead of monde for instance) are also a result of Alex living in the south of France and not in the Paris area...
    About the puffed "t", something that JB did not mention is that a lot of French-speaking people in other parts of the world DO use very very very much-puffed T's (in Quebec for example)

  • @nigelsouthworth5577
    @nigelsouthworth5577 Рік тому

    Thanks Alex for a very informative video. And I agree, practice makes progress :)

  • @gabysadowyj1251
    @gabysadowyj1251 2 роки тому +2

    Really good video guys, lots of good points and looked fun to make. You work well together, bravo!

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому

      Thanks Gaby. Glad you enjoyed it. Any point particular that resonated with you?

    • @gabysadowyj1251
      @gabysadowyj1251 2 роки тому

      @@FrenchinPlainSight Hi Alex the point you make about not having to sound perfect, like a native speaker. J-B is my (excellent) prof and he makes the point that communication is the key (I am leaning for pleasure and not for work/exams). Yes the pronunciation , grammar etc are important but to be understood and have great conversations are what it’s about for me. Well done and hopefully there will be more like this x

  • @AndreaAvila78
    @AndreaAvila78 2 роки тому

    I think you should do it also the other way around and assess the French coach's English! To me (a non English speaker) it sounds so spot on!!! But what do I know!

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому

      Haha. It's a little off-brand for us right now. But a very fun idea :)

  • @doreendsouza8862
    @doreendsouza8862 Рік тому

    I loved the video ..specially the pronunciation..wish I could one day speak the way you both can .

  • @foreverlearningfrench
    @foreverlearningfrench 2 роки тому +1

    Omg, j'ai tellement appris de cette vidéo ! Merci Alex et JB. 😃

  • @angelaschlaud4795
    @angelaschlaud4795 2 роки тому +1

    love this one, 💕I’ve never hears some of these tips!

  • @3sons4fun20
    @3sons4fun20 Рік тому

    Fantastic show. Very helpful info!

  • @brooheel
    @brooheel 2 роки тому

    These guys are real good

  • @alexandernoe1619
    @alexandernoe1619 2 роки тому +1

    20:10: peut-être with a t, not a tttthhhh :D

  • @dianeedra517
    @dianeedra517 2 роки тому

    What a great video. Super well explained, thanks! Any video in your channel on how to record yourself with soft soft? I'm under the

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому

      Hi Diane. Your comment got cut off. And I'm also not sure what you mean by "soft soft"? Please feel free to come back and clarify.

  • @andrewrobinson2565
    @andrewrobinson2565 Рік тому

    Great British neutral accent from Jean-Baptiste 👍👍+1.

  • @ciaralakhani7197
    @ciaralakhani7197 2 роки тому +1

    Super video and I haven't seen Jean-Baptiste speak English before. What type of flag is the red flag by the way?

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому +1

      Hehe. yea it was like another person came out when he spoke English to me for the first time. 2 languages, 2 identities. Or like 5 or 6 in his case :p.
      It's the flag of the ancient region Occitanie, to which Montpelllier belonged. It is now part of the "new" Occitanie which was created just 5 or so year ago for adminstrative/political reasons and the new region has a flag that is inspired from the old one.

    • @ciaralakhani7197
      @ciaralakhani7197 2 роки тому

      @@FrenchinPlainSight Thanks so much for answering, especially as I couldn't figure it out by googling. Very interesting. And thank you for making us feel more comfortable that we don't need to be perfect in pronunciation.

  • @louisfrancisco2171
    @louisfrancisco2171 2 роки тому +2

    I'm not sure it was taken into account that you're in Occitanie.
    Notably, I found his "on" a bit too open and yours perfect.
    I guess he's not from the South from his inventory of only 3 nasal sounds. He didn't mention the sound found at the end of "médecin".

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому +2

      The original video was 43 minutes. There's no way to talk about everything in one video unfortunately:)

    • @loussaille1
      @loussaille1 2 роки тому +1

      Merci Alex et JB pour cette excellente vidéo ! Je me disais aussi que vivant en occitanie, l'accent de cette belle region a peut être influencé ta prononciation. Je pense en particulier aux voyelles nasales dont en prononce souvent le n et les eu et les o un peu plus ouverts qu'ailleurs en France ( comme dans heureuse ou jaune). En tout cas je suis d'accord avec vous deux, ta pronciation est vraiment exemplaire et fluide, avec un micro soupçon d'accent tonique anglais, ça rend le tout absolument charmant! Ne change rien!

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому +1

      @@loussaille1 Merci beaucoup. Personnellement, je serai très très content si ma prononciation en français a été influencé par ma région ! Merci d'avoir dit ça !

    • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
      @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +2

      Hi Louis and thanks a lot for your message. Actually, we've mentioned a few of the points you've made in your message. At 8min00, we reminded that there are actually up to 6 different nasal sounds in the various regions of France (and there are actually way more than 6 nasal sounds in the whole French-speaking world). 3 nasal sounds is generally what is taught in the classes of French as a foreign language (it would be too complex for learners to go deeper into such subtle pronunciation details). I really hope you didn't get the impression that we created this video saying that Alex's pronunciation is "correct" or "incorrect". If you did, please rest assured that it wasn't our intention at all. We actually clearly stressed the impossibility to define a "correct" French pronunciation (many different accents and pronunciation habits around France and the world). We simply tried to focus on what made a native speaker know that Alex is English. 😀

    • @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910
      @expatlang-learnfrenchwithj1910 2 роки тому +1

      @@loussaille1 Avec grand plaisir Louissaille :)

  • @EricaNernie
    @EricaNernie 2 роки тому

    Tres util. Merci.I'll be more careful with tout le monde and peut etre from now on!

  • @MarinusVesseur
    @MarinusVesseur Рік тому

    Thank you for this video. One thing I noticed, a common misunderstanding of what "nasal" means: we call sounds nasal that are NOT pronounced through the nose. You have to stop the airflow through the nose to achieve this sound.

  • @11Garrett11
    @11Garrett11 Рік тому

    “He’s a specialist in pronunciation” You mean he’s a native speaker LOL

  • @christianc9894
    @christianc9894 2 роки тому +3

    Avis d'un natif : c'est parfait. Si personne ne vous reprends c'est que ce n'est pas nécessaire, tout simplement. Après on entend bien que vous êtes anglais. Mais c'est normal et on s'en fout.

    • @FrenchinPlainSight
      @FrenchinPlainSight  2 роки тому +1

      Voilà, bien dit. Je n'ai plus envie de cacher mes origines non plus :)

  • @geraniumzanzibar
    @geraniumzanzibar 2 роки тому

    'insist on' = false friend 🙂

  • @ArRechouKreiz
    @ArRechouKreiz 2 роки тому

    And can we underline the fact that JB's pronunciation of the word "basic" is wrong 😅 ? It's not baZic, but baSSic 🙃😉