I am newly professed Secular Franciscan, St. Maximilian Kolbe Fraternity in Wyoming. So glad I found your channel. I building a fraternity website and will have a gallery of Franciscan videos. This will be one. Common question asked by seekers. Well done brother.
Pax et Bonum...Congratulations on your profession as a Secular Franciscan. I've been a Secular Franciscan for 28 years now...and I haven't regretted a moment of it. I hope you are blessed with the same perseverance. Dios te bendiga. I am a member of the San Luis Rey Fraternity in Ponce, Puerto Rico. Santa Alegría.
Janelle Wingert OFS Congratulations on becoming an OFS. I've been a Secular Franciscan in the UK since 2008 when I was professed. Never regretted it. Pax et Bonum
I am blessed with relics of Saint Faustina, St Elizabeth Ann Seton, Pope Pius X who saved my Grama from cancer and she lived until 97 years old. One more Saint my mom holds. I would say we are in excellent company. Three rosaries a day. Would you please pray for Sister Clare Crockett from Ireland and say with Jacksonville Florida, Sisters of Home of the Mother? I will pray for you 🕯❤️🌹🕊🌹❤️🕯 Thank you, Theresa Kennedy 🌹🌹🌹
Always found the Franciscans and St. Francis very interesting. I'm currently reading 'The little flower if St. Francis' and find it fascinating (given to me by my Dominican spiritual director). Keep up the good work.
I am a Dominican student and I find this vid very informative love to our franciscan cousins💛💛To God be all the Glory Our Lady of the Holy Rosary..pray for us Sts. Francis and Dominic...pray for us greetings from the PH🇵🇭
I never joined the Order, but I was instructed/catechized by the Dominicans, and still regard them as my "nuclear" (often dysfunctional!) family within the wider family of the Church. It was probably the right thing for me, but rather starkly intellectual. The phrase "too clever for their own good" could have been made for them/you/us. I sometimes feel I've missed out on the more touchy-feely part of the Church, which is how we thought of the Franciscans. We used to falsely and wickedly accuse them of adopting a "holier-than-thou" attitude, probably because we suspected they really were holier than us! If it's hard to find anyone with a bad word to say about the Franciscans, it's even harder to find someone with a good word to say about the Dominicans, and it's true that there are episodes in our history of which we cannot be proud. Am I wrong in judging a Dominican vocation to be a tougher one than a Franciscan? Leading you down a rockier road? You certainly have to be prepared to stick your neck out, and to get your hands dirty (metaphorically, of course!). Plunge yourself into your Dominican studies, but when you feel you're drowning (and you will), don't be too proud to give a call out to a Franciscan brother or sister to help you get through.
Fr. Casey thank you for this information. I can confirm that the Franciscan Fathers of my previous parish St. Philip Neri in Toronto, Canada where I grew up, show "OFM Cap." after their name. You both seem to wear the same habit. I thought back then, that all Priests in the world wore that habit! I look at the different Order of Priests in the Church, similar to the different Regiments in our Country's Army. The different Regiments all follow the same "Chief of Staff", the different Order of Priests all follow Jesus Christ.
I so love the Franciscans. When I lived in Michigan I became friends with a Friar and I have so many funny stories about adventures I had with Brother C.
Very well done, Brother Casey. Thank you. I have met many Franciscans over the years and I'm happy to tell you the first were Friars of the Holy Name Province. Francis must be thrilled with his many sons and daughters. Keep up your great work.
Good video. Catholic Charismatic here. I was talking to a Protestant friend of mine and mentioned that within his mindset, if someone doesn't like their church- they just get up and start a whole new church, never being obedient to authority, being their own authority. In the end it is like a mirror cracking, which keeps cracking and splintering into eternity away from the original. How holy the Franciscan mindset is, as you mentioned, that if you didn't like the direction of an order, pray about it and ask God if you are to lead another order. All still Catholic. All still Franciscan. All within the Church.
When new churches are started they are mostly to reform the older churches which invariably get into apostacy.The older the church the more the traditions and errors thst get into it.This goes on until like minded people who want to maintain the purity of the Bible begin a church to worship and fellowship together.Thus there willl be many churches after a time..That is the reason there are so many denominations.These newer churches have voluntary membership depending whether they are in agreement with the truth. One cannot stay on in a church if the church is teaching erroneous doctrines.Despite of all this people stay on because they were there for generations or for fear of being excommunicateid if you say anything contrary.There should be freedom to be with the truth and with people who are like minded.That will be a Church according to the truth of God's word.
Thank you! I am a OFS. I was told a Franciscan is a Franciscan. I try my best to live as St. Francis did. I am married. I was so happy a secular order includes me.
Please pray for me! I am discerning with the First Order Observants! Next month I plan to take a behavioral assessment for the Sacred Heart Province of Franciscans!
Our Order of Ecumenical Franciscans is another addition to the collection. We will be observing our 40th Chapter/Convocation this year at the Pallottine Retreat Center this summer. We appreciate your channel and your sharing .
Hello Brother Casey, my name is Brother Robert-Nathanael Hirsch CCB, I am an Evangelical Lutheran pastor and an Evangelical monk and friar, we also see ourselves as a Franciscan community consists. I work both as a pastor but as a police chaplain. so you see the confusion is much bigger than you might think. But I think there is much more that brings us together than separates us. for we all invoke St. Francis and St. Clare. we work for people and life for God. I am always very happy when I see your videos and I am pleased that vocations of our time are still possible today. Peace e bene
I recieved all my sacraments from St. Francis of assis church. I attended St. Francis school from k to eighth grade. I received a doctrine in philosophy for religious counseling. I am a Franciscan. Ty for helping ppl understand w this video. I am a urban Monk who takes semi vows. I am a lay person...💜🖤💜
The capuchins are the most down to earth people i know 🤣 My school and Church were run by them, and when I tell you, these man can walk around with the same pair of shoes for 10+ years, they can be almost non existent, and they would still say "i don't need new ones, these are just fine". I love them all, they have a really special place in my heart ❤️
Now n then I was chuckling to myself as you narrated the so many kinds of Franciscans...I guess its a proof of how great the way of St Francis attracted so many men.Watched it this 2nd time ...for me the Franciscan friars are are great whatever group they may belong to!Take care Fr.Cole.God bless you!
This was incredible! I’m an Anglican and we have a few of our own Orders. Some don’t require a friary and allow married men to become professed under different vows. St Francis truly was one of the most influential Saints in our history. Like the communion between Franciscans despite their differences, I pray our churches can one day be in communion, in unity over uniformity.
I can see St Francis rolling his eyes and laugh about this and cry out, "MAMMA MIA! What did I do?"...LOL I think what amazes me even more is the number of some Protestant denominations like the Anglicans, Lutherans and others have followed closely to establish similar religious orders modeled after some of the Catholic ones. It's beautiful thing, I think.
@@mikekean8344 Now you tell me...LOL What's truly amazing to me is how numerous Christians, regardless of denomination, seem to be attracted to the monastic life and it's countless challenges. As Jesus said, "You didn't choose Me, I chose you...many have been called, but few are chosen." I've heard nowadays some Methodists and even Presbyterians have decided to look into such a consecrated life dedicated to serving God and their fellowman in the selfsame ways as Catholic and some Eastern Rite nuns do in an active apostolate ministry as teachers, nurses, social workers, etc while others embrace the contemplative aspect as a religious behind the walls of the cloister in silence, solitude and prayer, for the salvation of the world. As the mother abbess told the young postulant Maria in 'the Sound of Music', "The walls of this convent were not built to shut out our problems...You have to face them head on!" Many people who know little about life inside convent walls and draw their own conclusions about what monastic life and what it entails, know what it offers some people. While those on the outside view it as a jail, those on the inside view it as freedom from earthly distractions and materialism. St Benedict of Nursia wrote over 1700 years ago his Rule the first line, "Listen, my child, to the Voice who speaks to you within the depths of your heart...." Prophets and sages of all religious and spiritual disciplines will tell its disciples the very same thing of the treasures that lie within silence and solitude.
30 years ago, I was trying to become a Conventional Franciscan. These were the friars at my High School. Anyway, during my time as a candidate, I frequently took Fr. James McCurry to and from the airport. When you showed Conventuals, there on the right was Fr. James. Took me back. Thank you
Interesting...Been intercedng for the Franciscans for many years now. Grew up with OFM novices in our village. Please remember me in your prayers as well. Am a consecrated lay. Thanks!
I have read much about Elenor of Aquitaine, finding her inspiring! Her letters to the Poe are some of the most beautiful writings I have ever seen. Although within them, she kneels to St.Francis, as the legend to her understanding of god and living her life.
“No, I will not spend time waiting. I will live the present moment and fill it with love. "A straight line consists of millions of little points". Likewise, a lifetime consists of millions of seconds and minutes joined together. If every single point along the line is rightly set, the line will be straight. If every minute of a life is good, that life will be holy. The Road of Hope is paved with small acts of hope along life’s way. A life of hope is born of every minute of hope in that lifetime." Cardinal Francis-Xavier Nguyen Van Thuan 🙏🏻4us
By my side of my mother, in México, my grand mother (RIP9 and one of my Aunt they became Franciscan, but by the Seglar that's what I larn when me and my mom join to her in spiritual retirement, and they talked about they're an order of franciscan, but they life their ussual lifes.
ghostlylover99123 I lived by her for 3 years. She was a rather hateful and self rightious woman. Threw many a young woman out onto the street because God gave her 'words' that these women were bad and had to go. She predicted the apocalypse at least 4 times between 1988 and 1996, caused folks to sell their property and move to her 'mountain' in preparations for the end. Im so thankful that I was able to leave her church and become Orthodox.
I myself am a variety Pagan who was brought up in a Catholic school while attending a Lutheran church twice weekly on my own. I converted to my current path at 15. I came here for educational purposes, simply because I (living in the heavily Catholic Montréal) still enjoy learning the history of the history of my locale and its influences. That said, your information was very interesting, and I can't end without adding, you are incredibly attractive. It helps ;) God (whichever understanding of that would remain mutual) bless.
Peace and Good Chris !, this is the way franciscans salute to everyone ! . In my city the catholic Church and the Baptist church were at the corner of the same block, my family used to go to Mass on Sundays, after that to the Sunday school -:)
Phew. A fascinating history into the developement of the Franciscan Order and its associated Orders. And you haven't even got into the the Augustines or the Dominicans yet. As a "Reformist" I thought that the development of the Protestant Denominations was comlpex. But I found this presentation really interesting. Thank you.
Thank you for early on connecting to God's sense of humor. One of my favorite jokes, relayed by a favorite OFM pastor, went: There are three things that God does not know... What a Jesuit is thinking... How much a Dominican knows... and How many congregations of Franciscan nuns there are in the world!! I beg forgiveness for any offense and assure I mean nothing but respect to the various charisms and joy over the human condition. PnB
Very good and very clear explanation. I experienced that Franciscan reform when I was with the Conventuals and eventually the two Friars founded the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate and offically they left the Order (OFM Conv.) in 1989. From 1987 to 1994 I remained with Connventuals but also left the Order.
I am also a secular Franciscan in the St. Maximillian Kolbe Fraternity in Houston ( St. Joan of Arc) region. Greetings to all my Franciscan brothers and sisters. Our Fraternity is growing thanks be to God. Peace and Good to all!
Oh boy. Counting this video, I've now had four different friars from three different orders attempt to explain this to me. I'm still a bit lost. St. Francis and St. Clare, pray for us!
What about, The Little Brothers of Saint Francis, out of Roxberry (Boston) Mass. Such outstanding work with the poor. A constant in winter in Boston, handing out gloves, hats, scarfs, and food to the poor of Mission Hill, and greater Boston more generally. Now I know you couldn't possibly mention each order by name, just shedding light on one from my hometown. Plus my Archbishop, Cardinal Sean O'Malley, is a former Franciscan himself. On an entirely different note, I always found it fascinating, That Cardinal Sean often chooses to outfit himself in the habit, rather than the Romon Cassock. I notice, when in Rome lol, he wears the cassock. This must be by a declaration of some kind. In any case, I would love to speak with you sometime Father. I have quite a story to tell you about my own vocation, and subsequent departure from Religious Life. -Scottie Mac- Boston, Ma
I have always wondered if catholic churches are typically governed or run by specific catholic orders or if most are just general in nature. I know that some parishes are staffed by priests of a particular order, but others do not seem to be. This is coming from a non-catholic who doesn't prefer to identify with any one branch of Christianity although I was raised in two different protestant denominations primarily.
The Catholic Church area of jurisdiction is broken down to several diocese. A diocese is an area governed by a bishop. The church where he holds his office and where he sits is called a cathedral. A cathedral can be termed the 'mother church' of a diocese. A diocese is comprised by a number of parishes. A parish is a smaller area within a diocese lead by a parish priest. The church where he holds his office is the 'mother church' of a parish a.k.a. parish church. A parish might have more than one church; smaller churches may be administered by priests who does not stay there all the time, but may go and visit there to hold masses and the like. These are usually termed chapels or 'visitas'. Now to answer your question, in a parish there are two types of priests: regular and secular. Regulars are those priests who are living within a religious order. Religious orders live within a community, headed by a superior, following a certain rule and living together. They usually have a church they run for their use and for the laypeople(ordinary people). Regulars usually takes vows of poverty, obedience and celibacy. Secular priests are those who do not belong to any order and are directly under the authority of the bishop. They are sent to the churches and/or chapels not ran by religious orders. The seculars are also different that they take vows of obedience and celibacy, but usually not of poverty. The regulars are answerable not only to the bishop but also to the superiors of their order. Historically, in my country at least, a bishop will have missions founded by religious orders who ran the churches alongside other institutions such as schools, hospital,etc. Over time, as more people converted to Catholicism and the population also increased and the missions thus become so established to become parishes, several churches and chapels are built and secular priests are ordained to meet the needs.
Am I confused, yep, And Im a cradle Catholic. Every time I turn around I hear about this order and that order and then they all add Franciscan and I look like wow ok have I heard about them before and my head just seems to spin.
Excellent summary of an interesting and confusing history! What are the largest 5 groups in the 1st and 3rd orders (and what percent of total Franciscans does that represent)?
I remember a quote from Bl. Thomas Merton from when I was very young, to the effect that communism can't work in a large society, that the only way you'll get a bunch of unrelated people to share everything with one another is if they voluntarily join a communal monastic society. Considering the many Franciscan orders, I think the same thought applies: if there were only one or two Franciscan orders, it would (I think) be too big to do all the work God wants done. In baseball, sometimes small ball is the best way to win the game.
I don't know if you've ever seen the series Crash Course, here on youtube, but it really feels like you'd be great at teaching Catholicism in that format.
I find it interesting how there are so many different monastic orders and rules in Roman Catholicism, and yet in Orthodox Christianity there has always been only one monastic rule for both men and women since the time of Sts. Anthony the Great, Pachomios of Egypt, and Basil the Great in the 4th century.
I'm so confused as to how ALL of these orders can be correct in what they teach and how they practice... How can one know which order to join, which one is practicing things the way Jesus really wants us to? Do penitents ever fear that they've "chosen" the wrong way?
about a negative division... not actually. Since St. Francis said "I have done what it was mine to do, may Christ teach you what is yours".... That's exactly what they have all done: doing what is theirs to do... but, instead of in an individual way, they had done it in community. I don't think there's a division, but different ways to do what Christ teach them to do. :) then without noticing and throughout the years, you've all done St. Francis inspiration. Anyway, thank you for your videos!
A spin on this that would be useful for vocations: if a man was discerning the major differences that would affect his life , say among the largest 3 Franciscan groups, what would this differences be today? Real. In the ground differences not philosophies or history. What am I getting buying into the OFMs v the TORs v the Caps v the OFM Convs? Great videos always, Casey! You have a nice touch😎🙏🙏🙏👋
I really love ur vids. I am an aspiring all faith minister. I've done seminary but am not legally a priest. Solely as in my state u have to have a non-profit business license and I disagree with idea it's about money. So can't have a church. I teach one on one. I've studied most Christian bibles. I teach how we are the same. Too many wars are what do we call God or what is cross called
I'm sorry but I got lost for a minute or two. Did you mention the Missionaries of the Immaculate Mary - Father Kolbe and the Franciscan Friars of Mary Immaculate? Because I sure do like those Franciscans. LOL! Thanks for the explanation of why there are so many Franciscan organizations around - especially those established to meet diocesan needs. I did not know that.
I use to think Catholic church was one and strong. But I always wander why all this different types of dressing among them, I didn't know that if you don't like it here you can go and create another church or monastery the way you like kind of thing like Protestants do I feel sad and I'm not even Catholic I'm Orthodox but I feel Catholics are the one good next door neighbor and I don't want this things to go big and separate the Church. In my Church there are rules you can not choose and pick the one's you like and follow and those you don't like you don't and still be a part of that body of CHRIST by any means if you don't follow those rules you can live the church you can't use the Church's name they will tell by media that group is no longer under the Orthodox church so the people will choose to follow them or stay with the church. Please be one. Don't separate the church and the people.
kris so the Church is one, there are things ALL Catholic’s have to do, the orders are optional and the rules are based on what best fits you while still, like all orders, living under the church and it’s teachings. The orders are not separate Churches but rather different ways of living out your Catholic life
Being Catholic does not require uniformity. We all have our ways of following Christ and serving Him. But that does not mean we are divided. Being Catholic is being united and one despite our differences. At least that's how I understand it.
Very good video though I have a few questions. 1) Is Richard Rohr an "Observant" OFM like yourself? 2) What about the "Spiritual Franciscans"? And 3) what about the existence of non-Catholic Christian Franciscans?
Thanks. 1) Yes, Richard Rohr is the same community as me, although he is in a different province (local governing body). 2) The "Spiritual Franciscans" were an offshoot of the Franciscans early on that wan't to maintain extreme poverty but were declared heretical shortly thereafter. 3) As far as I know, there are Franciscan communities in the Anglican and Lutheran Churches who live by his example of humility, poverty, fraternity, and prayer.
As a church historian, I have to say you did a WONDERFUL job presenting a very complex story. Kudos!
Thanks!
@@BreakingInTheHabit THAT. WAS. AWESOME !!!!!
But they all in order to be valid must be in union with Rome. Correct?
One of my Karate Teachers was a 3rd Order Franciscan. Awesome guy that taught me alot about Karate,Chi-Kung and Padre Pio.
I think Mother Angelica would be proud of you, Father Casey. You're doing what she did, taking the Good News to new platforms to reach more people.
I am newly professed Secular Franciscan, St. Maximilian Kolbe Fraternity in Wyoming. So glad I found your channel. I building a fraternity website and will have a gallery of Franciscan videos. This will be one. Common question asked by seekers. Well done brother.
Pax and Bonum! Gospel to life and life to gospel. Yep too big a charismatic to fit into just one order.
Pax et Bonum...Congratulations on your profession as a Secular Franciscan. I've been a Secular Franciscan for 28 years now...and I haven't regretted a moment of it. I hope you are blessed with the same perseverance. Dios te bendiga. I am a member of the San Luis Rey Fraternity in Ponce, Puerto Rico. Santa Alegría.
Janelle Wingert OFS Congratulations on becoming an OFS. I've been a Secular Franciscan in the UK since 2008 when I was professed. Never regretted it. Pax et Bonum
Laudare - Benedicere -Praedicare. I'm happy for you, Janelle. Dominicans love you guys, even if we don't always show it (you know how we are... )-: )
I am ofs also from Montréal.. On you tube look for. Called to bè franciscan. It thé story of br mj
My favorite Saint, St. Padre Pio was OFM Capuchin 🙂 I carry his relic in my coat pocket everyday.
Joseph Castillo you are so lucky. I am kinda jealous.
His relic ?
He is my favorite saint, too. I'm envious. Haha.
Cap
I am blessed with relics of Saint Faustina, St Elizabeth Ann Seton, Pope Pius X who saved my Grama from cancer and she lived until 97 years old. One more Saint my mom holds. I would say we are in excellent company. Three rosaries a day.
Would you please pray for Sister Clare Crockett from Ireland and say with Jacksonville Florida, Sisters of Home of the Mother?
I will pray for you 🕯❤️🌹🕊🌹❤️🕯
Thank you, Theresa Kennedy 🌹🌹🌹
Always found the Franciscans and St. Francis very interesting. I'm currently reading 'The little flower if St. Francis' and find it fascinating (given to me by my Dominican spiritual director). Keep up the good work.
I love St. Francis of Assisi. For he chose simplicity despite of being raised by a noble family
I am a Dominican student and I find this vid very informative love to our franciscan cousins💛💛To God be all the Glory
Our Lady of the Holy Rosary..pray for us
Sts. Francis and Dominic...pray for us
greetings from the PH🇵🇭
I never joined the Order, but I was instructed/catechized by the Dominicans, and still regard them as my "nuclear" (often dysfunctional!) family within the wider family of the Church. It was probably the right thing for me, but rather starkly intellectual. The phrase "too clever for their own good" could have been made for them/you/us.
I sometimes feel I've missed out on the more touchy-feely part of the Church, which is how we thought of the Franciscans. We used to falsely and wickedly accuse them of adopting a "holier-than-thou" attitude, probably because we suspected they really were holier than us!
If it's hard to find anyone with a bad word to say about the Franciscans, it's even harder to find someone with a good word to say about the Dominicans, and it's true that there are episodes in our history of which we cannot be proud. Am I wrong in judging a Dominican vocation to be a tougher one than a Franciscan? Leading you down a rockier road? You certainly have to be prepared to stick your neck out, and to get your hands dirty (metaphorically, of course!).
Plunge yourself into your Dominican studies, but when you feel you're drowning (and you will), don't be too proud to give a call out to a Franciscan brother or sister to help you get through.
Marvelous presentation of the GREAT FRANCISCAN family. Fr -Casey you are a true son of st Francis.for this l thank God
Not brother just cousins..ok if you say that.I think that we all brother and sisters.
Fr. Casey thank you for this information. I can confirm that the Franciscan Fathers of my previous parish St. Philip Neri in Toronto, Canada where I grew up, show "OFM Cap." after their name. You both seem to wear the same habit. I thought back then, that all Priests in the world wore that habit! I look at the different Order of Priests in the Church, similar to the different Regiments in our Country's Army. The different Regiments all follow the same "Chief of Staff", the different Order of Priests all follow Jesus Christ.
I so love the Franciscans. When I lived in Michigan I became friends with a Friar and I have so many funny stories about adventures I had with Brother C.
Very well done, Brother Casey. Thank you. I have met many Franciscans over the years and I'm happy to tell you the first were Friars of the Holy Name Province. Francis must be thrilled with his many sons and daughters. Keep up your great work.
Good video. Catholic Charismatic here. I was talking to a Protestant friend of mine and mentioned that within his mindset, if someone doesn't like their church- they just get up and start a whole new church, never being obedient to authority, being their own authority. In the end it is like a mirror cracking, which keeps cracking and splintering into eternity away from the original. How holy the Franciscan mindset is, as you mentioned, that if you didn't like the direction of an order, pray about it and ask God if you are to lead another order. All still Catholic. All still Franciscan. All within the Church.
When new churches are started they are mostly to reform the older churches which invariably get into apostacy.The older the church the more the traditions and errors thst get into it.This goes on until like minded people who want to maintain the purity of the Bible begin a church to worship and fellowship together.Thus there willl be many churches after a time..That is the reason there are so many denominations.These newer churches have voluntary membership depending whether they are in agreement with the truth. One cannot stay on in a church if the church is teaching erroneous doctrines.Despite of all this people stay on because they were there for generations or for fear of being excommunicateid if you say anything contrary.There should be freedom to be with the truth and with people who are like minded.That will be a Church according to
the truth of God's word.
I am glad I found your channel when I was confused with my faith. Amen
Bless you! Peace and all good!
Br. Casey's writing & oratory were quite effective 5 years ago. (!) His skills continue to grow in strength as a young priest. Bravo!
Very grateful that you put this post together, it was informative, and it was also very confusing (which helps keep us humble!). Thank you
Thank you! I am a OFS. I was told a Franciscan is a Franciscan. I try my best to live as St. Francis did. I am married. I was so happy a secular order includes me.
Me, too!!
Thank you!!! St. Francis is my patron and I was very curious. Great video!
Thankyou I have wanted to know more about this for a long time...
This video helped me so much now i know my options for becoming a friar.
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Please pray for me! I am discerning with the First Order Observants! Next month I plan to take a behavioral assessment for the Sacred Heart Province of Franciscans!
SpencerRaySanders well, what of dummie? you make the cut?
How are you now? Please tell us.
Our Order of Ecumenical Franciscans is another addition to the collection. We will be observing our 40th Chapter/Convocation this year at the Pallottine Retreat Center this summer. We appreciate your channel and your sharing .
I was confirmed at the Church of St. Francis in San Jose (Willow Glen) California, Episcopal. Love your work, my Brother.
Hello Brother Casey, my name is Brother Robert-Nathanael Hirsch CCB, I am an Evangelical Lutheran pastor and an Evangelical monk and friar, we also see ourselves as a Franciscan community consists. I work both as a pastor but as a police chaplain. so you see the confusion is much bigger than you might think. But I think there is much more that brings us together than separates us. for we all invoke St. Francis and St. Clare. we work for people and life for God. I am always very happy when I see your videos and I am pleased that vocations of our time are still possible today. Peace e bene
I recieved all my sacraments from St. Francis of assis church. I attended St. Francis school from k to eighth grade. I received a doctrine in philosophy for religious counseling. I am a Franciscan. Ty for helping ppl understand w this video. I am a urban Monk who takes semi vows. I am a lay person...💜🖤💜
The capuchins are the most down to earth people i know 🤣 My school and Church were run by them, and when I tell you, these man can walk around with the same pair of shoes for 10+ years, they can be almost non existent, and they would still say "i don't need new ones, these are just fine".
I love them all, they have a really special place in my heart ❤️
I agree with you, capucins I know some of my friends capucins, their way of life is too meaningful
Given up on this video?? This is my second time watching it. I'm really Intrigued!
That was fascinating, thanks!!
Start my formation period later this month with OFS ... Thank you father Casey for all your videos and hope all is well with you .🙏💪
REALLY helpful, clear, and informative. Thanks so much!
Now n then I was chuckling to myself as you narrated the so many kinds of Franciscans...I guess its a proof of how great the way of St Francis attracted so many men.Watched it this 2nd time ...for me the Franciscan friars are are great whatever group they may belong to!Take care Fr.Cole.God bless you!
Well done! I found it to be very informative and educational answering many of my questions. Thank you so much!
This is really helpful. Thank you for the details. You ask “who wants to know?” I DO!
Very insightful introduction to this complex issue!
As follower of Jesuit priests, that "join the Jesuits" line makes me laugh out loud!
what an enlighthenment, thank you ...pace e bene!
As a Postulant of the Order of Lutheran Franciscans I am happy to be a part of this tradition.
Thank you for your wonderful work.
This was incredible! I’m an Anglican and we have a few of our own Orders. Some don’t require a friary and allow married men to become professed under different vows. St Francis truly was one of the most influential Saints in our history. Like the communion between Franciscans despite their differences, I pray our churches can one day be in communion, in unity over uniformity.
Good to know and very informative, Fr. Casey. Thank you so much, God bless you. 🙏
Fr. Casey, I just love your channel!!!
Thank you! that's a clear explanation for a unclear question xP
I can see St Francis rolling his eyes and laugh about this and cry out, "MAMMA MIA! What did I do?"...LOL I think what amazes me even more is the number of some Protestant denominations like the Anglicans, Lutherans and others have followed closely to establish similar religious orders modeled after some of the Catholic ones. It's beautiful thing, I think.
@Natewatl id love to learn more on this too
There are now proximately 90000 + non-catholic Christian out there. Just FYI.
@@mikekean8344 Now you tell me...LOL What's truly amazing to me is how numerous Christians, regardless of denomination, seem to be attracted to the monastic life and it's countless challenges. As Jesus said, "You didn't choose Me, I chose you...many have been called, but few are chosen." I've heard nowadays some Methodists and even Presbyterians have decided to look into such a consecrated life dedicated to serving God and their fellowman in the selfsame ways as Catholic and some Eastern Rite nuns do in an active apostolate ministry as teachers, nurses, social workers, etc while others embrace the contemplative aspect as a religious behind the walls of the cloister in silence, solitude and prayer, for the salvation of the world. As the mother abbess told the young postulant Maria in 'the Sound of Music', "The walls of this convent were not built to shut out our problems...You have to face them head on!" Many people who know little about life inside convent walls and draw their own conclusions about what monastic life and what it entails, know what it offers some people. While those on the outside view it as a jail, those on the inside view it as freedom from earthly distractions and materialism. St Benedict of Nursia wrote over 1700 years ago his Rule the first line, "Listen, my child, to the Voice who speaks to you within the depths of your heart...." Prophets and sages of all religious and spiritual disciplines will tell its disciples the very same thing of the treasures that lie within silence and solitude.
I heard there is a joke among priests."Not even God knows how many orders of priests there are in the Church".
Thank you for trying to clarify this confusing topic. 🙏
30 years ago, I was trying to become a Conventional Franciscan. These were the friars at my High School. Anyway, during my time as a candidate, I frequently took Fr. James McCurry to and from the airport. When you showed Conventuals, there on the right was Fr. James. Took me back. Thank you
GOD BLESS YOU FR. CASEY!!!
I see you reppin my boy bro joe
And in 2016 the Franciscan Friars of the Holy Spirit was founded!
Interesting...Been intercedng for the Franciscans for many years now. Grew up with OFM novices in our village.
Please remember me in your prayers as well. Am a consecrated lay. Thanks!
3:45 I laughed so hard! It´s so true! I love when you share the friar´s jokes!
I have read much about Elenor of Aquitaine, finding her inspiring! Her letters to the Poe are some of the most beautiful writings I have ever seen. Although within them, she kneels to St.Francis, as the legend to her understanding of god and living her life.
What was that at the end? Anyway yep fascinating woman.
Watching this as I drink from my mother Angelica mug. Love her it's because of her show I wear my scapular and even know what it is
A very informative presentation. 👍
The shrine of the most blessed sacrament is breathtaking. God bless you
I really love your facial expressions... so powerful communication.
“No, I will not spend time waiting. I will live the present moment and fill it with love. "A straight line consists of millions of little points". Likewise, a lifetime consists of millions of seconds and minutes joined together. If every single point along the line is rightly set, the line will be straight. If every minute of a life is good, that life will be holy. The Road of Hope is paved with small acts of hope along life’s way. A life of hope is born of every minute of hope in that lifetime."
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great video!
Thanks for the info! May the Holy Spirit continue to guide you,
By my side of my mother, in México, my grand mother (RIP9 and one of my Aunt they became Franciscan, but by the Seglar that's what I larn when me and my mom join to her in spiritual retirement, and they talked about they're an order of franciscan, but they life their ussual lifes.
it was mother angelica that taught me the rosary
ghostlylover99123 I lived by her for 3 years. She was a rather hateful and self rightious woman. Threw many a young woman out onto the street because God gave her 'words' that these women were bad and had to go. She predicted the apocalypse at least 4 times between 1988 and 1996, caused folks to sell their property and move to her 'mountain' in preparations for the end. Im so thankful that I was able to leave her church and become Orthodox.
Please provide some evidence for these accusations Robert Kyril Jordan?
A Catholic religious sister predicting the apocalypse like some Protestant? I'm with Sarah in wanting to see some proof.
@@kyriljordanov2086 you're a liar!
@@kyriljordanov2086 so you was a sister? because she lived in a monastery.
I myself am a variety Pagan who was brought up in a Catholic school while attending a Lutheran church twice weekly on my own. I converted to my current path at 15. I came here for educational purposes, simply because I (living in the heavily Catholic Montréal) still enjoy learning the history of the history of my locale and its influences.
That said, your information was very interesting, and I can't end without adding, you are incredibly attractive. It helps ;)
God (whichever understanding of that would remain mutual) bless.
Peace and Good Chris !, this is the way franciscans salute to everyone ! . In my city the catholic Church and the Baptist church were at the corner of the same block, my family used to go to Mass on Sundays, after that to the Sunday school -:)
Phew. A fascinating history into the developement of the Franciscan Order and its associated Orders. And you haven't even got into the the Augustines or the Dominicans yet.
As a "Reformist" I thought that the development of the Protestant Denominations was comlpex. But I found this presentation really interesting. Thank you.
My grandfather’s sister was a bernadine sister, had these sisters in grade school and high school
how many orders you want to have
Christians: YES
You count on your orders mohd 73 ? 173 ? dont try to peek your nose like a snoopy
Thank you for early on connecting to God's sense of humor. One of my favorite jokes, relayed by a favorite OFM pastor, went:
There are three things that God does not know...
What a Jesuit is thinking...
How much a Dominican knows...
and How many congregations of Franciscan nuns there are in the world!!
I beg forgiveness for any offense and assure I mean nothing but respect to the various charisms and joy over the human condition.
PnB
Good job brother. Pray for all vocations.
Very good and very clear explanation. I experienced that Franciscan reform when I was with the Conventuals and eventually the two Friars founded the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate and offically they left the Order (OFM Conv.) in 1989. From 1987 to 1994 I remained with Connventuals but also left the Order.
I am also a secular Franciscan in the St. Maximillian Kolbe Fraternity in Houston ( St. Joan of Arc) region. Greetings to all my Franciscan brothers and sisters. Our Fraternity is growing thanks be to God. Peace and Good to all!
Oh boy. Counting this video, I've now had four different friars from three different orders attempt to explain this to me. I'm still a bit lost. St. Francis and St. Clare, pray for us!
What about, The Little Brothers of Saint Francis, out of Roxberry (Boston) Mass. Such outstanding work with the poor. A constant in winter in Boston, handing out gloves, hats, scarfs, and food to the poor of Mission Hill, and greater Boston more generally. Now I know you couldn't possibly mention each order by name, just shedding light on one from my hometown. Plus my Archbishop, Cardinal Sean O'Malley, is a former Franciscan himself. On an entirely different note, I always found it fascinating, That Cardinal Sean often chooses to outfit himself in the habit, rather than the Romon Cassock. I notice, when in Rome lol, he wears the cassock. This must be by a declaration of some kind. In any case, I would love to speak with you sometime Father. I have quite a story to tell you about my own vocation, and subsequent departure from Religious Life.
-Scottie Mac-
Boston, Ma
I have always wondered if catholic churches are typically governed or run by specific catholic orders or if most are just general in nature. I know that some parishes are staffed by priests of a particular order, but others do not seem to be. This is coming from a non-catholic who doesn't prefer to identify with any one branch of Christianity although I was raised in two different protestant denominations primarily.
The Catholic Church area of jurisdiction is broken down to several diocese.
A diocese is an area governed by a bishop. The church where he holds his office and where he sits is called a cathedral. A cathedral can be termed the 'mother church' of a diocese. A diocese is comprised by a number of parishes. A parish is a smaller area within a diocese lead by a parish priest. The church where he holds his office is the 'mother church' of a parish a.k.a. parish church. A parish might have more than one church; smaller churches may be administered by priests who does not stay there all the time, but may go and visit there to hold masses and the like. These are usually termed chapels or 'visitas'.
Now to answer your question, in a parish there are two types of priests: regular and secular.
Regulars are those priests who are living within a religious order. Religious orders live within a community, headed by a superior, following a certain rule and living together. They usually have a church they run for their use and for the laypeople(ordinary people). Regulars usually takes vows of poverty, obedience and celibacy.
Secular priests are those who do not belong to any order and are directly under the authority of the bishop. They are sent to the churches and/or chapels not ran by religious orders. The seculars are also different that they take vows of obedience and celibacy, but usually not of poverty.
The regulars are answerable not only to the bishop but also to the superiors of their order.
Historically, in my country at least, a bishop will have missions founded by religious orders who ran the churches alongside other institutions such as schools, hospital,etc. Over time, as more people converted to Catholicism and the population also increased and the missions thus become so established to become parishes, several churches and chapels are built and secular priests are ordained to meet the needs.
Awesome work!!
I grew up loving Franciscans .❤
Am I confused, yep, And Im a cradle Catholic. Every time I turn around I hear about this order and that order and then they all add Franciscan and I look like wow ok have I heard about them before and my head just seems to spin.
One wonders what Francis, who based his life on simplicity, would think of the complexity made out of his message.
Thank you brother Casey for such important history lesson.....WHY IN THE WORLD THE OTHER PRIEST DO NOT EXPLAIN THAT TO US "REGULAR" PARISHIONERS "
Excellent summary of an interesting and confusing history! What are the largest 5 groups in the 1st and 3rd orders (and what percent of total Franciscans does that represent)?
I remember a quote from Bl. Thomas Merton from when I was very young, to the effect that communism can't work in a large society, that the only way you'll get a bunch of unrelated people to share everything with one another is if they voluntarily join a communal monastic society. Considering the many Franciscan orders, I think the same thought applies: if there were only one or two Franciscan orders, it would (I think) be too big to do all the work God wants done. In baseball, sometimes small ball is the best way to win the game.
Because the Franciscan Spirit is HUGE!
And.....simple !
Prayers of St. Francis and St. Ignatius are both well-known prayers. Both are beautiful.
I don't know if you've ever seen the series Crash Course, here on youtube, but it really feels like you'd be great at teaching Catholicism in that format.
... and let's not forget the orders started in the Anglican and Luthern churches.
I find it interesting how there are so many different monastic orders and rules in Roman Catholicism, and yet in Orthodox Christianity there has always been only one monastic rule for both men and women since the time of Sts. Anthony the Great, Pachomios of Egypt, and Basil the Great in the 4th century.
The first "father" of monk is ST Antony the Greath and the first roules was from ST Basil the Greath
I'm so confused as to how ALL of these orders can be correct in what they teach and how they practice... How can one know which order to join, which one is practicing things the way Jesus really wants us to? Do penitents ever fear that they've "chosen" the wrong way?
Excellent job.!!!!
This video makes me love the Franciscans even more.
about a negative division... not actually. Since St. Francis said "I have done what it was mine to do, may Christ teach you what is yours".... That's exactly what they have all done: doing what is theirs to do... but, instead of in an individual way, they had done it in community. I don't think there's a division, but different ways to do what Christ teach them to do. :) then without noticing and throughout the years, you've all done St. Francis inspiration.
Anyway, thank you for your videos!
I love your videos
A spin on this that would be useful for vocations: if a man was discerning the major differences that would affect his life , say among the largest 3 Franciscan groups, what would this differences be today? Real. In the ground differences not philosophies or history.
What am I getting buying into the OFMs v the TORs v the Caps v the OFM Convs?
Great videos always, Casey! You have a nice touch😎🙏🙏🙏👋
I really love ur vids. I am an aspiring all faith minister. I've done seminary but am not legally a priest. Solely as in my state u have to have a non-profit business license and I disagree with idea it's about money. So can't have a church. I teach one on one. I've studied most Christian bibles. I teach how we are the same. Too many wars are what do we call God or what is cross called
Could you do a video helping non Catholics or non Franciscans...understand St. Francis...
Roman Catholic: Good morning, Father: what Religious Order do you belong to? - Greek Orthodox: Monk.
I had no idea there were so many!
I'm sorry but I got lost for a minute or two. Did you mention the Missionaries of the Immaculate Mary - Father Kolbe and the Franciscan Friars of Mary Immaculate? Because I sure do like those Franciscans. LOL! Thanks for the explanation of why there are so many Franciscan organizations around - especially those established to meet diocesan needs. I did not know that.
Yes he did ! The conventuals have Kolbe and the Immaculate which is the PATRONESS OF USA ! .
I use to think Catholic church was one and strong. But I always wander why all this different types of dressing among them, I didn't know that if you don't like it here you can go and create another church or monastery the way you like kind of thing like Protestants do I feel sad and I'm not even Catholic I'm Orthodox but I feel Catholics are the one good next door neighbor and I don't want this things to go big and separate the Church. In my Church there are rules you can not choose and pick the one's you like and follow and those you don't like you don't and still be a part of that body of CHRIST by any means if you don't follow those rules you can live the church you can't use the Church's name they will tell by media that group is no longer under the Orthodox church so the people will choose to follow them or stay with the church.
Please be one. Don't separate the church and the people.
kris so the Church is one, there are things ALL Catholic’s have to do, the orders are optional and the rules are based on what best fits you while still, like all orders, living under the church and it’s teachings. The orders are not separate Churches but rather different ways of living out your Catholic life
Being Catholic does not require uniformity. We all have our ways of following Christ and serving Him. But that does not mean we are divided. Being Catholic is being united and one despite our differences. At least that's how I understand it.
Very good video though I have a few questions. 1) Is Richard Rohr an "Observant" OFM like yourself? 2) What about the "Spiritual Franciscans"? And 3) what about the existence of non-Catholic Christian Franciscans?
Thanks. 1) Yes, Richard Rohr is the same community as me, although he is in a different province (local governing body). 2) The "Spiritual Franciscans" were an offshoot of the Franciscans early on that wan't to maintain extreme poverty but were declared heretical shortly thereafter. 3) As far as I know, there are Franciscan communities in the Anglican and Lutheran Churches who live by his example of humility, poverty, fraternity, and prayer.
I have a random question. If a friar was invited as a guest to a families wedding. Would they where traditional robes?
Hey I want to be a francisian. I am confused whether to choose conventual or capuchin
GO CAPUCHINS 200 % !!!!!
I never knew there were lay Franciscans. Thank you for the insight.