TS Falaise? leaving Jersey 1974.

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  • Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
  • Possibly TS Falaise leaving jersey 1974 with St Helier Lifeboat La Collette Reclamation works in process a view of the Mine field bunker and new Cobs in situ, Havre des Pas and St Peter Port,

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  • @ianm452
    @ianm452 3 роки тому +3

    Interesting. You're right to question Earl Granville, because the ferry in your film has clinker-built (wooden) lifeboats. Earl Granville had GRP boats, as did all Sealink CI car ferries from Caledonian Princess onwards. For that reason this could be either Sealink's Normannia or Falaise - both ships operated as car ferries on the Channel Islands route from Weymouth in 1974, the year you quote. We know she's a car ferry because she was berthed at the RoRo ramp in St. Helier's No. 5 berth. The tapered exhaust fan casing that appears briefly at the aft end of the boat deck on the right of the picture at 0:44 (with the man in glasses looking towards it) eliminates Normannia, so identifies the ship as Falaise. Earl Granville didn't sail on this route until 1981 - before that, she operated in the Baltic as Viking 4. None of our car ferries was termed a "mail boat" and they didn't fly the Royal Mail pennant - the last "mail boats" on this route were Caesarea and Sarnia, although the car ferries did carry trailers containing mail, and I expect they still do.

    • @tothefield3623
      @tothefield3623  3 роки тому +1

      I bow to your superior Knowledge, the pictures of TS Falaise after later alterations agree with you on the exhaust fans, many thanks

    • @Oakleaf700
      @Oakleaf700 Рік тому

      @@tothefield3623 I'd say this ship is Malaise {Edit...Falaise..Spellchecker} as well..
      My Nemesis as a child, as we used to cross the Channel on her, and I remember that tobacco brown look to the seats and the yellowy look to the saloon..
      Had an horrendous crossing on her, thought it would never end, feeling headachey and giddy.
      They shut the deck, a Force 8 gale, 1969, and the ship could ''Really Roll'' as her crew admitted {On a Newhaven forum}
      Shockingly, her QM spoke of a young lorry driver with a cargo of oranges from Seville who began to be seasick on the journey, and by the end actually died.
      So say she was ''Almost on her beam ends''.
      The poor young man must have had something go very wrong with him, maybe an internal rupture from vomiting, or a heart attack from Electrolyte loss..Who knows.
      The strange shaped vents are classic 'Falaise', as are small decks and oldskool lifeboats.

    • @paulmahy
      @paulmahy Рік тому

      She's not a car ferry, she wasn't tied up to the link span, she was quite a way from it and there is no prop wash/ water disturbance as if she is manoeuvring off. The vent are the same as the Sarina and Caesarea, she is also going astern out of St. Peter Port which she wouldn't be if she was the Falaise as the ramp door was in the stern.
      Sailed on them all, remember them all.

  • @paulmahy
    @paulmahy 7 місяців тому

    Great days.

  • @paulmahy
    @paulmahy Рік тому +1

    The ship approaching St. Peter is either the Sarnia or Caesarea. This ship wasn't on the linkspan as you can clearly see it with lifeboat alongside, there is no wash or disturbance in the water from the props, so she hasn't moved from there, all the mail boats used to tie up there in St. Helier. The "vents" are present on both TS Sarnia and Caesarea and they also had clinker lifeboats as well as the central open air stairway leading from the boat deck. Hight likely this is either Sarnia or Caesarea,

    • @ianm452
      @ianm452 4 місяці тому +1

      The featured ship is Falaise, as I explained in my post 2 years ago (see above.) In St. Helier, she is leaving No. 5 berth - the berth with the linkspan. The mail boats' berth was No. 3 berth in St. Helier, to the south of the bend in the Albert Pier: Nos. 4 and 5 berths are to the north of that bend. Sarnia and Caesarea never had clinker-built lifeboats, as stated in this extract from page 9 of the booklet "New British Railways Passenger Ships for the Channel Islands Service, ss Caesarea and ss Sarnia", published for their first visits to the Islands, which reads as follows: "Six fibreglass lifeboats and 45 inflatable liferafts are carried in each ship."

    • @Oakleaf700
      @Oakleaf700 4 місяці тому

      @@ianm452 Yes, it's definitely Falaise, I went on this ferry as a child a lot- and she's idiosyncratic. {or was}.
      A Frenchman also has a good old film of her and Villandry at Dieppe.