There’s literally no point or reason other than you want the newest thing to get one if you already have a 5. Even if you don’t I still wouldn’t spend 700 bucks on a console you might as well get a pc.
Lack of competition. They're the only console maker releasing a mid gen upgrade. This is why we need Microsoft to continue making consoles. Competition keeps prices down.
people buy iPhones 1000$ every 2 years lol I think its fair for them to sell ps5 that you buy every 10 year for more than 1000$ its sad but one iPhone being more expensive than a ps5 doesn't make sense
Or physcially media is just being outsold by digital media. It has been like this for years. You are like a guy in the 00s complaining that the kids are buying cds when tapes are cheaper.
The price is even worse if you're like me and from the UK. £700 converted to US dollar is $900 and if you're in the EU, €800 is a little over $1000. So we're actually paying more, just for being in a different country. Make it make sense.
@@SSEAPKC Is that the same for Japan, especially as they're a Japanese company? 120,000 yen converted to USD is still over $800. It just doesn't sit right with me.
American tax works differently. They pay tax on things they buy in a lump sum yearly. The UK pays 20% VAT upfront on payment of the item. That already brings us to $840; add import taxes (which got worse since Brexit) and $900 is probably somewhere around the correct price. Now after all of that do I believe Sony should take a small amount of that on the chin as a loss leader and make it more like £650. Yes absolutely; it would look much better for them if they did and it would be 1 less thing for people to complain about.
people buy iPhones 1000$ every 2 years lol I think its fair for them to sell ps5 that you buy every 10 year for more than 1000$ its sad but one iPhone being more expensive than a ps5 doesn't make sense
@DarylDixonTV---TWDLegendOf course not. I don’t see your point. People are still allowed to critique a product that’s being marketed to the world, including people who don’t want them. So yes, they can criticize it.
Well, he said it's a tax write off he actually doesn't give a shit what you'll think, to be honest his just pandering. He was going to get it even if the shit cost 1k.
@@Aid3nn33 Yeah but here's the problem with going all digital. Recently I got screwed over by playstation because for some reason, I can't play online and I don't have access to the majority of my digital library. Even though it still says I own them. And playstation has yet to fix the problem. So now I'm in a position where I basically have no choice to play games physical because of that.
@@havingfun-u4g I don't know about easier but yes there's a risk of a CD getting damaged. But alot of that also depends on how well you take care of it. Also with CD's. At least there's solutions that if you have a damage CD, you can replace it with a new one or a good condition one. You can't replace a digital copy. Or get another one. Unless you used another account.
@Aid3nn33 That's exactly what the Klaus Schwab New World Order loves the 80% of what you call the majority you will rent everything and own NOTHING. Are prime candidates for them.
The way you feel about Nintendo is exactly how I feel about Sony after being with them from day one. It's to the point I refuse to buy anything Sony makes now.
I stopped after the PS3 when they wouldn't let me transfer my save files for specific games without paying for Playstation Plus. Basically Sony allowed companies to lock save data on consoles, so you couldn't transfer them to say a USB or SD Card when migrating to a new PS3. Then Sony sold you a solution. PS4 came out and they also included a subscription service. The primary reason I stayed team blue in 2006 was because PSN was "Free." I just dropped out of buying consoles all together after that. No one was offering platforms worth a darn. Tired of them trying to resell me games as well. Meanwhile I'm still playing Red Baron 3D designed for Windows 98 on a Windows 10 PC.
@@Alte.Kameraden Yeah and that's only the tip of the iceberg of all the crap Sony has done. Ever since they moved HQ to California it just got progressively worse. After the PS2 their ego got the better of them and they've been anticonsumersince.
@@playably Yeah I mean putting all the crap Sony has done aside the reason to even have a console is kinda growing less and less relevant when they barely have any exclusive IPs making it worth the buy. That's the only saving grace Nintendo has along with still having physical media. Really wish they bring that back to PCs. Yeah its faster to download but having a physical media that’ll run regardless of connection is still preferable.
People are finally realizing how non consumer friendly Sony has been this generation? They won’t let you use a PS4 controller on your PS5 even though the controllers WILL connect to the console and work for PS4 games, they haven’t supported backwards compatibility since the PS3, they don’t have anything like Smart Delivery on Xbox, and they won’t let you use any of your old accessories on the PS5. Now this nonsense with the disc drive and stand? People can say what they want about Xbox not having exclusives, but man at least with Xbox I can play most of my old games and use my older stuff with it.
I bet Sony is going to release a “Deluxe” version eventually that’s literally just the Pro version, but with an added disc drive… only for the low cost of $900… 😑
@@warthefirsthorseman2482Yeah but should’ve had a disc drive and stand as well when it’s $700. I love PlayStation but I’ll be sticking with my OG PS5 until the PS6
Not just a feeling, it is a smart decision 😂😂 paying an exceptional amount more for a tap difference between the two consoles is fckin ridiculous. This literally is a huge cash grab. PS4 slim didn't sell like this neither did the PS3 or ps2 slim versions. But I digress, I just won't be getting it period. Lol they're going to have hella PS5 pros in stock, won't have to worry about selling out😂😂
Same. No way i’m wasting that much money on a 30% performance upgrade (i can see it being even less since they didn’t even dare to show us proper comparison)
@@Utre-d4u People laughed at me when I said that I will keep my PS4 Pro for another few years, wait until the disappointment of the PS5 Pro comes out, the original PS5 comes down in value on the used marketplace before getting a PS5. It's not about having the cash, it's about being smart.
@@cardassa that is literally just another word for "gamer". you didn't do anything and my comment will forever have more likes. never respond to a comment again if you are going to respond with something so FOOLISH.
I don’t feel like I’ve got my moneys worth out of my current ps5 or Xbox series x . I bought both at launch and haven’t been all that impressed with the games we’ve gotten thus far. A few good games but mostly crap
Yeah, this gen is the weirdest & worse gen I've ever seen. Modern gameplay design is just not it man. The games from the PS2, OG Xbox & gamecube era were way more fun than today's games. Their is too much hyper focus on graphics & technical stuff now, instead of coming up with creative fun gameplay design.
Same, I’ve had my PS5 from launch and just feel I’ve been playing PS4 games and cross gen titles. Where are these exclusives they promised us? Now they’re asking us to drop $700 (essentially $800 because most people want a disk drive) on new hardware? Nah they can take a hike.
10 brand new PS5 games is $740. Used PC with a RTX 4070 is about 700 , most Sony exclusives games are now on PC. The PS5 pro without a Drive , something tell me sony was thinking it's really a PC by eliminating the drive or selling it separately. they must of forget that you need the drive to install those PS4 games. Sony think people are stupid , the console is really 800.00 if you buy the drive during launch . you need the drive regardless to pop in the games you own. Sony you are FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean the PS5 Pro doesn't make the performance that much better because most people are going to play it in performance mode these companies need to stop focusing on graphics and more on performance gaming has become so backwards nowadays let's give you the game and let the customers be the beta testers
@@mackncheese1683 that’s fine but the pro isn’t for everyone it’s for a certain demographic and that’s ok. If it was the reg ps5 I’d understand but an extra that the normal consumer does not need I feel is over blown. The stand and disc drive I understand
The game is also on PC and they also show God of War, Horizon and "Woke of Us 2". Except for the last one they are all in PC and all in PS5. What a joke of generation, plus, the console is close to 1000 dollars in the European Union and the UK. Screw Sony.
8k! Remember that? They’ve take that lie off the ps5 boxes subsequently. This is no longer a company we can trust. Sony now feel they have a monopoly and can just take advantage of
The fact that there’s no disc drive option and the ridiculous price means that eventually they’re planning on going all digital. This is the start of disc games being phased out
Sony is truly scamming. I recently bought Baldur's Gate 3 on disc, mainly because physical media is dying, but I remember my friend bought the steelbook for Spider-Man 2 for the PS5, and there was no disc inside-just a digital code. It's truly ridiculous.
Trying to make back that concord money... we all know it, we ain't falling for it. How bout close the headquarters in California, there's your 200 million back in a few years with all staff fired. Don't worry, we won't cry over that.
How can you play the PS1? The graphics are like so bad on most games they make me sick. SNES games on average look better than the games of that generation.
@@havingfun-u4g I like it ? I mostly collecting em ? I got 1-4 , I respect that . Idk I like it kinda throw back like once every 5 months . I don’t play for games I’m not a gamer I’m a collector
Get drunk and throw in some backyard wrestling ps2 ,? History of some grand theft auto ps2? PS1? Some war zone just hits . It’s just a collectors. Items ya no
@@havingfun-u4g honestly when people come over everyone has the ps5? I mean ya no ? When they see the 1,2,3,4 shock 😳 it’s a game changer , I don’t follow the trends , I hate bull rings & crocks also . 🤣
Yup. Everything is going up while the salary stays the same. That is one of the issues. We need to reduce cost but because of everything going on, we are screwed. This is similar to the phone coming without the fast charger.
I think one of the most irritating things (for me) is that they didn't even do a good conversion rate for the price either. In the UK it would cost £700, that is over $900!
-The graphics are barely improved. -$700 dollars+tax with no D drive -They will probably charge you more for Upgrades. -no stand Its up to you if its worth it
My first instinct is to wait because I'm not sure i want a system without a disk drive since a lot of my ps5 games are physical copies. Not to mention I'm in Canada and it costs more here.
They can kick rocks. This was a horrible idea. It is nothing but the ps5 slim with extra bells and whistles. Holding back accessories and features on a pro system seems just unprofessional.
Load times is one of the advantages of the Nintendo Switch. Using cartridges instead of disks makes load times faster and you don't have to worry about the game getting scratched up.
There really aren't any games pushing the current hardware to it's limit, so I don't really understand the point of the upgrade. My PS5 works perfectly fine, and will continue to work perfectly fine for years to come.
I was considering getting it, but when they don't include a disk drive, when I like to own my own games and they won't even include a stand for the price they want for it, it's not worth it to me as a regular consumer. It's a terrible way for a company to treat their loyal consumer base, and this will comeback to bite them in the behind.
I have PS1 and PS2.. I also have all generations of Xbox and now a gaming PC.. I was thinking about getting the PS5 pro but I think I'll get the regular ps5
The reason they probably think they can do this is because the PS5 was so hard to get and people was selling them for double the price. If so so many people was willing to pay double or triple the price for a normal PS5 Sony probably thinking why not release it for double and make the profit ourselves this time. The worse thing is people will still buy the pro.
PS4 Pro and Xbox One X both made sense and were solid mid-gen upgrades that were noticeable. I'm struggling to see the point of the PS5 Pro over a PS5. The value for the money is not there.
Been loyal to PlayStation for years! I have gotten the majority of all the accessories etc VR ,headsets, cool controllers and more for every console since ps1 ,but now this might be the thing that makes me say im done.
I live in the EU so that's 799,99 for me... Glad that I saved money and built a gaming pc one year ago. Best decision I've made so far... Console marketing is getting out of reality.
I'm right there with you with the loading times. It's one of the most important technical points of any media for me. As a lifelong fellow Indiana Jones fan I still remember Fate of Atlantis on my Commodore Amiga. 12 disks of unoptimised disk swapping horror. Having all those 3.5inch floppy discs laying on a towel on my bed, swapping disks for 2 minutes so that 3 bats can fly across the screen or a few seconds of incidental music can play. We got it real good by comparison.
Nintendo has an opportunity to play the savior in the console space. If the Switch 2 (or whatever it is) launches with a reasonable price tag, and a lineup of enticing games... they may win over a lot of these disenfranchised fans from PlayStation and Xbox.
But PC gaming will always be a superior experience for GTA6 both short and long term, not to mention modding capabilities one day. You can even use your PS controller. Literally no downside besides waiting for the PC release.
But we don’t even know by how much? Will the pro run it at 120hz or even 60Hz in performance mode? We don’t know. For all we know is both model will run it at 30hz
@@Neo_Rain146 GTA V benefited from the PS4 Pro over the PS4....I am sure that will be the case here. From Sony's demonstration video, it seems that the Pro does not even have a performance mode, because it doesn't need to make the graphical sacrifices the base model does to reach high frame rates or resolution. 2 in 1 instead of one or the other
@@AEmceeMuzikForever That is incorrect, the PS4 Pro offered no patch that boosted performance in GTA 5. Maybe other titles like RDR2 but definitely not GTA5. My point is that it’s all conjecture at this point about what requirements GTA6 will have. What is likely tho is that the base PS5 will have its usual performance/fidelity modes but this mythical PS5 Pro performance could be negligible in real performance terms. Could you honestly look at the side by side comparisons yesterday and say it was noticeable? Most would say no.
printers dont give you the usb cable. I can see Sony not giving the stand and HDMI cables in the future. This looks to me like sony is fanancially suffering
I said this on another video, but something very important here - The PS4 Pro was priced exactly the same as the base PS4 was on its release - $399. It acted more like a hardware refresh with more modern components for its time. It also came standard with a disc drive. The PS5 Pro is priced well above what the base PS5 was when it came out - the base PS5 being $499 with disc drive and $399 without. I think its more fair to compare the 5 Pro to the $399 digital version since the 5 Pro doesnt come with a disc drive. So the PS5 Pro is $300 more than the base model, thats almost double its price. Its being sold like a luxery item over the base model, when it actuality its serving the same function as the PS4 Pro was, a modern refresh of the hardware, only this time it costs almost double the price and theres no disc drive.
You should build a gaming PC. Thats a bigger write off. You get better framerates, better visuals, better load times, both Xbox and PlayStation games on steam plus you building a PC video would be awesome.
My guy backtracked his last take when he saw he was acting too rich in this here recession 😂😂😂😂. Unc don't care about the stand 😂😂. We still rock with you even if you think $700 is fine T-Weezy😂😂😂
It seems it's offering about $475 worth of value for $700 - if they were selling the extra graphics and stuff at $475 I think it'd be a big hit, but $700? It better come with a keyboard and a mouse for that.
800€ just ain't worth it for me considering the following things: - Next Gens are likely about 2 years away - Games are still going to be made with PS5 and XBOXSX's performance as the priority target - The only thing it does is Give you Performance mode FPS with Quality mode Visuals and for me it just isn't worth it Note: I'm European so I realize I'm on the extreme side of the impact considering 800€ is approximately 900$ (USD)
I find it curious that all the titles they showcased are ps4/ps5 games. They didn't show ANY current gen only games. Another problem is they haven't even utilized the ps5 to it full power and potential yet, so whats the point of making it more powerful? It literally makes no sense.
The PC GPU equivalent of a PS5 Pro is a 7700xt. That's around $400 by itself. 2TB NVME SSD is around $150. CPU is a Ryzen 7 5800x which is around $150. This system is not overpriced by any means. That's before you buy a motherboard, ram, power supply, etc. You would spend twice as much building a compatible PC. Yall need to chill....lol
I've waited five YEARS for the PS5 to FIRST become available (w/o the Scalper's costs), and it never did. NOW Sony wants to hand their Patrons/Customers,,, this? What in the actual f*ck? No. HELL no. I drop that much $$$, it's going into a good PC, which is VASTLY more functional/better. So long Sony! Thx for all the fish!
@@havingfun-u4g That $700.00 with just a LITTLE BIT MORE, will outperform any console, and THEN be capable of doing so very, very MUCH more. Choose. Go cheap, pay too much, if YOU want to. Some of us respect our meager pennies more than that. We had to EARN them, after all.
ha! I was just bitching the other day... I got a phone upgrade and the only thing I got was the phone and the usb wire to charge the phone. Had to pay for the wall plug for the usb wire and earphones! AND it didn't have a slot for a SD card! I feel your pain!
Not sure where all the hate is coming from! This is an upgrade to serve those who wanted 60fps...Most people I know already own a PS5, so if you don't like it don't upgrade or just buy the regular PS5 if you don't have one!! I am sticking to mine, and let them rot on shelves until they drop the price.
Exactly Tyrone. Couldn't have said it better myself, man. No disc drive included (sold separately), no vertical stand included (sold separately), STILL no FULL backwards compatibility like they originally teased in the original PS5 reveal and then did a 180 before release, and they have the audacity to charge over $1000 for it (in Australia that is)? For the amount of money that they are charging they SHOULD have included ALL of those things AND increased the internal storage further. 2TB's? Firstly what is that going to get you in terms of space considering how big games are these days, and secondly don't forget, you don't get the full amount of space that they disclose anyway due to a chunk of that space being partitioned by the OS. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING SONY!!!!!!!??????????
If Sony wants $700 for the disc-less PS5 Pro now, what are they going to want for a PS6 in a couple of year? All Nintendo has to do is jump in and announce the Switch 2 at $399 and sweep up all the money Sony just left on the table.
This is like the PS3 era all over again with how high priced the PS3 was in comparison to the Xbox 360. At least it wasn't this bad. I just need a PlayStation with actual backwards compatibility that's not streaming or casts extra to play and a gamepass like system with worth well games and I'll be happy.
THE PRICE IS FAIR! Wait til yall see Hulks reflection in Wolverines Claws! MUCH BETTER SYSTEM MUCH BETTER WIFI + 2TB STORAGE! PAY THE DAMNED PRICE OR GO GET A SUXBOX AND PLAY HALO IN A CORNER
I just don't understand the point for it this late in the generation. I don't think people realize this console is almost 5 years old, with the typical life span of a console lasting 6 years. 700 dollars for a console that really isn't that much of an increase in power, and doesn't even come with a disc drive for the 700 dollar version. Ridiculous. To be honest, out of the three platforms I own (PS5, PC, and Switch), my PS5 is what I play the least! There isn't enough exclusives for me to come back to it. I have a decently beefy PC for the bigger games, and I got my Switch for my fun Nintendo exclusives.
It makes no sense there is talks that microsoft is starting next gen in 2026. So why would sony even do a refresh. I was so disappointed in sony this gen I actually switched to xbox this gen and with gamepass being a good deal. I think I'm done with sony and their greed.
@@Aid3nn33 1. Okay you got me on the years, my mistake, but still that is too late in this generation to release a pro model. 2. It is too late in the consoles life to expect people to pay 700 dollars for a minimal upgrade. Wake up and realize that. 3. The Playstation 4 has only lasted this long because of how damn well the 4 sold and them not wanting to cut off that steam of money. Crossplay is dying on it, and it is holding back development greatly. 4. I never said I didn't like Sony exclusives. I loved my PS4 and was excited for the future so I bought a Ps5 on launch with excitement for the titles they announced, but the future let me down and I haven't been overly impressed apart from a few of those titles. Legit all that comes to mind for me is Spider-Man 2 (which was honestly underwhelming), Ragnarok, Ratchet and Clank, and now Astro Bot. Thats only 4 titles. Plus their heavy hitters are just being released on PC later on, and also end up looking and running better on my PC. Its my own personal case and taste. Stop being a Sony fanboy for one second and wake up and smell the roses. This is a stupid console release and is pointless at this point in its life cycle.
Good price like 400, second hand maybe. But the disc drives gonna be an issue. What's the point of the pros features if I don't already "own" my existing games digitally.
That 700 dollar in my currency is sitting at approximately 1million, which no average citizen would pay 1million just for a gaming console, lets not talk about the disk drive and the stand
I could've sworn that i saw them display 2 models at one point in the video, the focus was mainly on the model with no disc drive but at one point i saw them show 2 models. One with a disc drive, and the other digital version one.
Without a disc drive, a stand, minor graphical upgrades and no information on load times even if I were a millionaire I wouldn't spend $700+!! Just on principal!! Just save your money for the PS6 in a few years!!
If you have a PS5 please do not waste your money on this
Definitely not paying for another PS5 😂
When this thing tanks in price I might consider trading in my current ps5 to get it but I doubt even that
@Aid3nn33 😂 I'm with you my man...I got OG PS5 and Slim PS5 one of those is going 😂..Pro here we come
@@Aid3nn33ain’t nobody mad. We just think you to be quite unintelligent lol
There’s literally no point or reason other than you want the newest thing to get one if you already have a 5. Even if you don’t I still wouldn’t spend 700 bucks on a console you might as well get a pc.
A $700 console in a society that’s Collapsing in every way 💀
LETS GO BRANDON!
That’s over $800 if you have hardcopies 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lack of competition. They're the only console maker releasing a mid gen upgrade. This is why we need Microsoft to continue making consoles. Competition keeps prices down.
@@MrThunda51 Nintendo, too. We need tons of Switch and Switch 2 versions
PS6 $1500, sold the controller separately too LMAO ! 😂😂😂
power cord and hdmi cable sold separately too
power lead = $99
That'll be like the ps6 pro....I was would say maybe the standard ps6 be like $1000 or so......oh well .... we'll just see how all that plays out.
*Does NOT come with internal SSD. Separate purchase necessary*
people buy iPhones 1000$ every 2 years lol
I think its fair for them to sell ps5 that you buy every 10 year for more than 1000$
its sad but one iPhone being more expensive than a ps5 doesn't make sense
You either die a hero (PS4) or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. (PS5 PRO)
i would say ps3 over ps4 due to the fact most of ps4 games are ps3 remasters lol
@@toxicapple2848 well that’s just straight up false but okay. Ps3 was dominated by the Xbox360
Ps3 was the die a hero. Getting charged to play online on ps4 was an insane addition
@@Utre-d4u Ps3 had free multiplayer, Xbox360 you had to pay for. Ps3 was the goat and last PS console that's worth something.
love this comment bro.👊🏼
Remember, "You will own nothing and be HAPPY!" = NO Disk Drive 😂
Exactly!
It’s sold separately you gotta shell out an extra 80 bucks to apply the disc drive manually there is a disc drive you just gotta buy it’s it’s a joke
EXACTLY
Or physcially media is just being outsold by digital media. It has been like this for years. You are like a guy in the 00s complaining that the kids are buying cds when tapes are cheaper.
@@havingfun-u4g Good luck
The price is even worse if you're like me and from the UK. £700 converted to US dollar is $900 and if you're in the EU, €800 is a little over $1000. So we're actually paying more, just for being in a different country. Make it make sense.
Different currency, import tax/ fees and regulations. I’m not saying it’s ok but there’s the short answer.
@@SSEAPKC Is that the same for Japan, especially as they're a Japanese company? 120,000 yen converted to USD is still over $800. It just doesn't sit right with me.
🤓 @@SSEAPKC
I live in Latin America, that's almost 2x the original price
American tax works differently. They pay tax on things they buy in a lump sum yearly. The UK pays 20% VAT upfront on payment of the item. That already brings us to $840; add import taxes (which got worse since Brexit) and $900 is probably somewhere around the correct price.
Now after all of that do I believe Sony should take a small amount of that on the chin as a loss leader and make it more like £650. Yes absolutely; it would look much better for them if they did and it would be 1 less thing for people to complain about.
$700 for a f'n game console is ridiculous
they think we will just bend over and take it. Well no Sony!
That u technically already have
people buy iPhones 1000$ every 2 years lol
I think its fair for them to sell ps5 that you buy every 10 year for more than 1000$
its sad but one iPhone being more expensive than a ps5 doesn't make sense
@DarylDixonTV---TWDLegendOf course not. I don’t see your point. People are still allowed to critique a product that’s being marketed to the world, including people who don’t want them. So yes, they can criticize it.
Yup
MAN MAKE THE PS 5 PRO BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE PLAYS PS 1, PS 2 ,PS 3, PS 4, PS 5 COMES WITH 2 CONTROLLER AND A STAND THEN WE CAN TALK
On god
That should’ve been a thing with the ps4 pro already. The fact that ps1 and ps2 games are still only accessible through emulators is a joke.
Not likely Last time they did that was the PS3 60g
@@Utre-d4u I just kept my PS2 and 3
For real the backwards compatibility would make me buy a new ps console IMMEDIATELY. Let me play the older games without a damn subscription.
If we don't own games anymore, we shouldn't have to pay full price for consoles. Make it a sub package, like a cable box.
"You will own nothing,& be happy." Claus Shawb
Bro completely changed his mind from the first video, I guess people called him out lol
😂😂.. it's ok if anyone wants to buy it but looks like current PS5 owners don't care to get it at that price
Well, he said it's a tax write off he actually doesn't give a shit what you'll think, to be honest his just pandering. He was going to get it even if the shit cost 1k.
bro thought he would take a shot on PC gamers because many people kept telling him PC is better than consoles
Only reason I want a console is for physical games. I have PC already.
@@Aid3nn33 Yeah but here's the problem with going all digital. Recently I got screwed over by playstation because for some reason, I can't play online and I don't have access to the majority of my digital library. Even though it still says I own them. And playstation has yet to fix the problem. So now I'm in a position where I basically have no choice to play games physical because of that.
@@lucasjames5187 And the problem with switching over to CDs were that they are much easier to damage and yet the switch still happened.
@@havingfun-u4g I don't know about easier but yes there's a risk of a CD getting damaged. But alot of that also depends on how well you take care of it. Also with CD's. At least there's solutions that if you have a damage CD, you can replace it with a new one or a good condition one. You can't replace a digital copy. Or get another one. Unless you used another account.
@Aid3nn33
That's exactly what the Klaus Schwab New World Order loves the 80% of what you call the majority you will rent everything and own NOTHING. Are prime candidates for them.
Lol you might as well buy an Xbox for that because at least you can play your old discs on the Xbox
Almost as bad as PS Remote Play when it was released.
"Remote into your PS5 from home, while your PS5 is in the same room."
Like that waste of money tablet they have 😂
You would think the Wii U wasn‘t something sony wanted to copy.
The way you feel about Nintendo is exactly how I feel about Sony after being with them from day one. It's to the point I refuse to buy anything Sony makes now.
I stopped after the PS3 when they wouldn't let me transfer my save files for specific games without paying for Playstation Plus. Basically Sony allowed companies to lock save data on consoles, so you couldn't transfer them to say a USB or SD Card when migrating to a new PS3. Then Sony sold you a solution. PS4 came out and they also included a subscription service. The primary reason I stayed team blue in 2006 was because PSN was "Free." I just dropped out of buying consoles all together after that. No one was offering platforms worth a darn. Tired of them trying to resell me games as well. Meanwhile I'm still playing Red Baron 3D designed for Windows 98 on a Windows 10 PC.
@@Alte.Kameraden Yeah and that's only the tip of the iceberg of all the crap Sony has done. Ever since they moved HQ to California it just got progressively worse. After the PS2 their ego got the better of them and they've been anticonsumersince.
Ps5 is definitely my last Sony console. I was excited to get it but haven't really used it other than watching movies.
@@playably Yeah I mean putting all the crap Sony has done aside the reason to even have a console is kinda growing less and less relevant when they barely have any exclusive IPs making it worth the buy. That's the only saving grace Nintendo has along with still having physical media. Really wish they bring that back to PCs. Yeah its faster to download but having a physical media that’ll run regardless of connection is still preferable.
People are finally realizing how non consumer friendly Sony has been this generation? They won’t let you use a PS4 controller on your PS5 even though the controllers WILL connect to the console and work for PS4 games, they haven’t supported backwards compatibility since the PS3, they don’t have anything like Smart Delivery on Xbox, and they won’t let you use any of your old accessories on the PS5. Now this nonsense with the disc drive and stand? People can say what they want about Xbox not having exclusives, but man at least with Xbox I can play most of my old games and use my older stuff with it.
I bet Sony is going to release a “Deluxe” version eventually that’s literally just the Pro version, but with an added disc drive… only for the low cost of $900… 😑
The disc drive can be bought separately already from the slim
Source: “Trust me bro”
They definitely will 😅
@@TheUniversalGamer87 just heard about that a few mins ago actually. Not surprised in the slightest sadly…
@@thanos2271you must be fun at parties
PC lookin real good right now 👀
Eh
I still play more PS4 and other retro style games on my PS5 than actual PS5 games.
It's not worth $700...wow the graphics and ray tracing...how about working and making great games like they use to.
PS5 pro should have been all black , 2 tb with disc drive and stand for 600 at best
It’s 2 terabytes
@@warthefirsthorseman2482Yeah but should’ve had a disc drive and stand as well when it’s $700. I love PlayStation but I’ll be sticking with my OG PS5 until the PS6
Xbox series X is coming out with two versions with disc drive and without.. with 2 tb for $600...
4 tb and I'm sold
Maybe if the economy was doing better and, woke games were not destroying gaming.
Got the money to get it but I feel like it’s a waste tbh I’m a keep the OG ps5 then upgrade when the ps6 come out feels like a smart decision
I also have the cash, I could buy a dozen and not break a sweat. It’s the principal for me. That’s why I still play PS4.
Not just a feeling, it is a smart decision 😂😂 paying an exceptional amount more for a tap difference between the two consoles is fckin ridiculous. This literally is a huge cash grab. PS4 slim didn't sell like this neither did the PS3 or ps2 slim versions. But I digress, I just won't be getting it period. Lol they're going to have hella PS5 pros in stock, won't have to worry about selling out😂😂
Same. No way i’m wasting that much money on a 30% performance upgrade (i can see it being even less since they didn’t even dare to show us proper comparison)
@@Utre-d4u People laughed at me when I said that I will keep my PS4 Pro for another few years, wait until the disappointment of the PS5 Pro comes out, the original PS5 comes down in value on the used marketplace before getting a PS5. It's not about having the cash, it's about being smart.
You say that now but wait till the price tag comes for a ps6.
Jeesus can't even be a gamer without being wealthy
Stick with steam then.
Jesus was never a gamer.
@@cardassa You sure? He sure played a bunch of humanity if you ask me.
@@holyjolias3229 That's cause he is a player. 😁
@@cardassa that is literally just another word for "gamer". you didn't do anything and my comment will forever have more likes. never respond to a comment again if you are going to respond with something so FOOLISH.
Sony ... put the shovel down gang... 😂
I know that hole they're making is getting big as hell right now lol.
I don’t feel like I’ve got my moneys worth out of my current ps5 or Xbox series x . I bought both at launch and haven’t been all that impressed with the games we’ve gotten thus far. A few good games but mostly crap
Yeah, this gen is the weirdest & worse gen I've ever seen. Modern gameplay design is just not it man. The games from the PS2, OG Xbox & gamecube era were way more fun than today's games. Their is too much hyper focus on graphics & technical stuff now, instead of coming up with creative fun gameplay design.
Same, I’ve had my PS5 from launch and just feel I’ve been playing PS4 games and cross gen titles. Where are these exclusives they promised us? Now they’re asking us to drop $700 (essentially $800 because most people want a disk drive) on new hardware? Nah they can take a hike.
Same here. And on top of that. Please no online order only🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
@@OJ90- I’ve actually been going back and playing games from that era that I missed . I’ve pretty much turned into a retro gamer these days .
Series X killing it what are u talkin about lil bro
Sony on one for this… I mean make your money I’m not against making money but damn Sony, this is wild af
10 brand new PS5 games is $740. Used PC with a RTX 4070 is about 700 , most Sony exclusives games are now on PC. The PS5 pro without a Drive , something tell me sony was thinking it's really a PC by eliminating the drive or selling it separately. they must of forget that you need the drive to install those PS4 games. Sony think people are stupid , the console is really 800.00 if you buy the drive during launch . you need the drive regardless to pop in the games you own. Sony you are FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean the PS5 Pro doesn't make the performance that much better because most people are going to play it in performance mode these companies need to stop focusing on graphics and more on performance gaming has become so backwards nowadays let's give you the game and let the customers be the beta testers
Yeah ....they can buy an Xbox series x and switch and add them to ps5 instead of buying the same console for more price just to get 10 more frames
Performance mode is also getting phased out. More and more games lately are only releasing with a 30fps cap because devs can’t get 69 anymore.
Then don’t buy it especially when you can get a reg ps5. The pro is literally for those who want that extra boost
@@JDragonweezytoo bad nobody is going to buy it regardless
@@mackncheese1683 that’s fine but the pro isn’t for everyone it’s for a certain demographic and that’s ok. If it was the reg ps5 I’d understand but an extra that the normal consumer does not need I feel is over blown. The stand and disc drive I understand
They show ghost of tsushima which has also been released on the ps 4, it doesn't get more brazen than that
The game is also on PC and they also show God of War, Horizon and "Woke of Us 2". Except for the last one they are all in PC and all in PS5. What a joke of generation, plus, the console is close to 1000 dollars in the European Union and the UK. Screw Sony.
0:22 has anyone noticed that ratio?
disgraceful stuff Sony! Should sell it for at least $1499!!
They definitely advertise the ps5 doing all these amazing things. Yet I ain’t seen any game actually do these things. Waste of money for the pro
8k! Remember that? They’ve take that lie off the ps5 boxes subsequently. This is no longer a company we can trust. Sony now feel they have a monopoly and can just take advantage of
The fact that there’s no disc drive option and the ridiculous price means that eventually they’re planning on going all digital. This is the start of disc games being phased out
Sony is truly scamming. I recently bought Baldur's Gate 3 on disc, mainly because physical media is dying, but I remember my friend bought the steelbook for Spider-Man 2 for the PS5, and there was no disc inside-just a digital code. It's truly ridiculous.
No way I’m gonna buy the PS5 Pro for $700.00 😂😂😂😂😂
I would if it improves GTA VI
@@PlatinumPSX lmao clown
@@Christophercurtis02 Paying 800-1000 for a game
Get rich homie or keep crying
@@Christophercurtis02You're the clown. He wants to buy it and let him be.
that price is rediculous. not worth it. At this point in time the ps5 should be worth 300-400$, the pro 500$
$300 Digital PS5 I would buy IN A HEARTBEAT
Trying to make back that concord money... we all know it, we ain't falling for it. How bout close the headquarters in California, there's your 200 million back in a few years with all staff fired. Don't worry, we won't cry over that.
PS6 shipping box optional 😂
No reason to buy a ps6 now when. It releases.
Over here still playing the PlayStation 1 & 2 😂
How can you play the PS1? The graphics are like so bad on most games they make me sick. SNES games on average look better than the games of that generation.
@@havingfun-u4g I like it ? I mostly collecting em ? I got 1-4 , I respect that . Idk I like it kinda throw back like once every 5 months . I don’t play for games I’m not a gamer I’m a collector
Get drunk and throw in some backyard wrestling ps2 ,? History of some grand theft auto ps2? PS1? Some war zone just hits . It’s just a collectors. Items ya no
@@havingfun-u4g honestly when people come over everyone has the ps5? I mean ya no ? When they see the 1,2,3,4 shock 😳 it’s a game changer , I don’t follow the trends , I hate bull rings & crocks also . 🤣
@@havingfun-u4gThere are still some really fun games on there though. I popped in Twisted Metal 2 recently, and it was genuinely hard to put down.
Yup. Everything is going up while the salary stays the same. That is one of the issues. We need to reduce cost but because of everything going on, we are screwed. This is similar to the phone coming without the fast charger.
No CD slot for $700??? Sony lost my money 🔥💵🔥
I’m gonna stay with my Original PS5 😌😌😌😌
I think one of the most irritating things (for me) is that they didn't even do a good conversion rate for the price either. In the UK it would cost £700, that is over $900!
-The graphics are barely improved. -$700 dollars+tax with no D drive
-They will probably charge you more for Upgrades.
-no stand
Its up to you if its worth it
My first instinct is to wait because I'm not sure i want a system without a disk drive since a lot of my ps5 games are physical copies. Not to mention I'm in Canada and it costs more here.
Most of my collection of ps4 and ps5 games are disk. This is a non starter for me. The marginal gains are not worth it
They can kick rocks. This was a horrible idea. It is nothing but the ps5 slim with extra bells and whistles. Holding back accessories and features on a pro system seems just unprofessional.
Load times is one of the advantages of the Nintendo Switch. Using cartridges instead of disks makes load times faster and you don't have to worry about the game getting scratched up.
There really aren't any games pushing the current hardware to it's limit, so I don't really understand the point of the upgrade. My PS5 works perfectly fine, and will continue to work perfectly fine for years to come.
I was considering getting it, but when they don't include a disk drive, when I like to own my own games and they won't even include a stand for the price they want for it, it's not worth it to me as a regular consumer. It's a terrible way for a company to treat their loyal consumer base, and this will comeback to bite them in the behind.
A legit portable like the psp era would be great
"What if consoles started not coming with the power cord?" Please don't give them ideas they would absolutely do that if they could get away with it 😅
My last PS console was the PS3. Not sure when I'll ever get another console
I have PS1 and PS2.. I also have all generations of Xbox and now a gaming PC.. I was thinking about getting the PS5 pro but I think I'll get the regular ps5
The reason they probably think they can do this is because the PS5 was so hard to get and people was selling them for double the price. If so so many people was willing to pay double or triple the price for a normal PS5 Sony probably thinking why not release it for double and make the profit ourselves this time. The worse thing is people will still buy the pro.
The slim version has for me the best design!
PS4 Pro and Xbox One X both made sense and were solid mid-gen upgrades that were noticeable.
I'm struggling to see the point of the PS5 Pro over a PS5. The value for the money is not there.
Yeah that's what I was thinking I don't see any reason to get it especially when you can upgrade the SSD on your own
Been loyal to PlayStation for years! I have gotten the majority of all the accessories etc VR ,headsets, cool controllers and more for every console since ps1 ,but now this might be the thing that makes me say im done.
I live in the EU so that's 799,99 for me... Glad that I saved money and built a gaming pc one year ago. Best decision I've made so far... Console marketing is getting out of reality.
Honestly the design looks like Marie’s sculpture from the show everybody loves Raymond
I'm right there with you with the loading times. It's one of the most important technical points of any media for me. As a lifelong fellow Indiana Jones fan I still remember Fate of Atlantis on my Commodore Amiga. 12 disks of unoptimised disk swapping horror. Having all those 3.5inch floppy discs laying on a towel on my bed, swapping disks for 2 minutes so that 3 bats can fly across the screen or a few seconds of incidental music can play. We got it real good by comparison.
yall better start building a pc while prices are down just saying lmao
Nintendo has an opportunity to play the savior in the console space. If the Switch 2 (or whatever it is) launches with a reasonable price tag, and a lineup of enticing games... they may win over a lot of these disenfranchised fans from PlayStation and Xbox.
@@sh0ts420 3,000 dollars to get a pc setup that’s the same as if I got a ps5 pro yeah no thanks. Imm just gonna pay the 700.
@@ejrb42 have fun needing to upgrade in few years so you can go from 60fps to 120 XD
@@sh0ts420 that would be amazing!!! If they can pull 120fps with the same graphics. I would spend over a $1000 and buy an insane gaming monitor.
Ps4 pro was 100 dollars more, Ps5 pro is 200 dollars more, I see no problem. It's inflation and high chip prices.
That's 300$ more plus the disk drive and stand. That's over 400$
I think the selling of a console without a controller is possible of happening in the near future
GTA 6 the only game that will make some fold for this
But PC gaming will always be a superior experience for GTA6 both short and long term, not to mention modding capabilities one day. You can even use your PS controller. Literally no downside besides waiting for the PC release.
But we don’t even know by how much? Will the pro run it at 120hz or even 60Hz in performance mode? We don’t know. For all we know is both model will run it at 30hz
@@Neo_Rain146 GTA V benefited from the PS4 Pro over the PS4....I am sure that will be the case here. From Sony's demonstration video, it seems that the Pro does not even have a performance mode, because it doesn't need to make the graphical sacrifices the base model does to reach high frame rates or resolution. 2 in 1 instead of one or the other
@@AEmceeMuzikForever That is incorrect, the PS4 Pro offered no patch that boosted performance in GTA 5. Maybe other titles like RDR2 but definitely not GTA5. My point is that it’s all conjecture at this point about what requirements GTA6 will have. What is likely tho is that the base PS5 will have its usual performance/fidelity modes but this mythical PS5 Pro performance could be negligible in real performance terms. Could you honestly look at the side by side comparisons yesterday and say it was noticeable? Most would say no.
I might have to buy it when GTA 6 comes out
I think the cost is whats pissing potential buyers. It's too expensive in this economy
Yes and the fact that in the last almost 4 years they have released only a handful of PS5 exclusive games. We want more games not more hardware
Sony laid a rotten egg.
Again
6:38 Nintendo did this with one of the 3ds models
printers dont give you the usb cable. I can see Sony not giving the stand and HDMI cables in the future. This looks to me like sony is fanancially suffering
I said this on another video, but something very important here - The PS4 Pro was priced exactly the same as the base PS4 was on its release - $399. It acted more like a hardware refresh with more modern components for its time. It also came standard with a disc drive. The PS5 Pro is priced well above what the base PS5 was when it came out - the base PS5 being $499 with disc drive and $399 without. I think its more fair to compare the 5 Pro to the $399 digital version since the 5 Pro doesnt come with a disc drive. So the PS5 Pro is $300 more than the base model, thats almost double its price. Its being sold like a luxery item over the base model, when it actuality its serving the same function as the PS4 Pro was, a modern refresh of the hardware, only this time it costs almost double the price and theres no disc drive.
You should build a gaming PC. Thats a bigger write off. You get better framerates, better visuals, better load times, both Xbox and PlayStation games on steam plus you building a PC video would be awesome.
I got a gaming PC two months ago.. once I got it I rebought all my games on PC 😂😂 with a 4k 165hz monitor
I also build a gaming PC
Myself and now, I don't even use
My PS5 anymore, since
there are No exclusives
Times are hard ppl can’t afford stuff in this day in age
My guy backtracked his last take when he saw he was acting too rich in this here recession 😂😂😂😂. Unc don't care about the stand 😂😂.
We still rock with you even if you think $700 is fine T-Weezy😂😂😂
It seems it's offering about $475 worth of value for $700 - if they were selling the extra graphics and stuff at $475 I think it'd be a big hit, but $700? It better come with a keyboard and a mouse for that.
I think the price is ridiculous, those are basic new features. I love PS but come on, it's like they are the new iPhone.
this isn't even greed anymore this is pure laziness from Sony at this point
Funny thing is the PS3's launch price of $599 would now be $935 adjusted for inflation as of mid 2024 🤯
800€ just ain't worth it for me considering the following things:
- Next Gens are likely about 2 years away
- Games are still going to be made with PS5 and XBOXSX's performance as the priority target
- The only thing it does is Give you Performance mode FPS with Quality mode Visuals
and for me it just isn't worth it
Note: I'm European so I realize I'm on the extreme side of the impact considering 800€ is approximately 900$ (USD)
I swear, this is how they want to recover losses from Concord.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was true 🤣
These plans were locked in long before Concord flopped. Unless you were just being cheeky, then ignore my comment.
I find it curious that all the titles they showcased are ps4/ps5 games. They didn't show ANY current gen only games. Another problem is they haven't even utilized the ps5 to it full power and potential yet, so whats the point of making it more powerful? It literally makes no sense.
The PC GPU equivalent of a PS5 Pro is a 7700xt. That's around $400 by itself. 2TB NVME SSD is around $150. CPU is a Ryzen 7 5800x which is around $150. This system is not overpriced by any means. That's before you buy a motherboard, ram, power supply, etc. You would spend twice as much building a compatible PC. Yall need to chill....lol
The price is too high.
I've waited five YEARS for the PS5 to FIRST become available (w/o the Scalper's costs), and it never did.
NOW Sony wants to hand their Patrons/Customers,,, this? What in the actual f*ck?
No. HELL no.
I drop that much $$$, it's going into a good PC, which is VASTLY more functional/better.
So long Sony!
Thx for all the fish!
You can get a good pc for 700 nowadays?
@@havingfun-u4g
That $700.00 with just a LITTLE BIT MORE, will outperform any console, and THEN be capable of doing so very, very MUCH more.
Choose.
Go cheap, pay too much, if YOU want to.
Some of us respect our meager pennies more than that. We had to EARN them, after all.
ha! I was just bitching the other day... I got a phone upgrade and the only thing I got was the phone and the usb wire to charge the phone. Had to pay for the wall plug for the usb wire and earphones! AND it didn't have a slot for a SD card! I feel your pain!
Not sure where all the hate is coming from! This is an upgrade to serve those who wanted 60fps...Most people I know already own a PS5, so if you don't like it don't upgrade or just buy the regular PS5 if you don't have one!! I am sticking to mine, and let them rot on shelves until they drop the price.
Exactly Tyrone. Couldn't have said it better myself, man. No disc drive included (sold separately), no vertical stand included (sold separately), STILL no FULL backwards compatibility like they originally teased in the original PS5 reveal and then did a 180 before release, and they have the audacity to charge over $1000 for it (in Australia that is)? For the amount of money that they are charging they SHOULD have included ALL of those things AND increased the internal storage further. 2TB's? Firstly what is that going to get you in terms of space considering how big games are these days, and secondly don't forget, you don't get the full amount of space that they disclose anyway due to a chunk of that space being partitioned by the OS. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING SONY!!!!!!!??????????
It will be $1000 when the scalpers buy them all up lol
Scalpers mostly know better than to buy this
@@metallicafan416 They already bought up the disc drives lol
They aren't very bright if they buy it. LOL
So no disc drive and it's more. Come on sony.
If Sony wants $700 for the disc-less PS5 Pro now, what are they going to want for a PS6 in a couple of year? All Nintendo has to do is jump in and announce the Switch 2 at $399 and sweep up all the money Sony just left on the table.
I leaned from the Wii and eShop. Never going all digital. I want the disc.
This is like the PS3 era all over again with how high priced the PS3 was in comparison to the Xbox 360. At least it wasn't this bad. I just need a PlayStation with actual backwards compatibility that's not streaming or casts extra to play and a gamepass like system with worth well games and I'll be happy.
THE PRICE IS FAIR! Wait til yall see Hulks reflection in Wolverines Claws! MUCH BETTER SYSTEM MUCH BETTER WIFI + 2TB STORAGE! PAY THE DAMNED PRICE OR GO GET A SUXBOX AND PLAY HALO IN A CORNER
I just don't understand the point for it this late in the generation. I don't think people realize this console is almost 5 years old, with the typical life span of a console lasting 6 years. 700 dollars for a console that really isn't that much of an increase in power, and doesn't even come with a disc drive for the 700 dollar version. Ridiculous.
To be honest, out of the three platforms I own (PS5, PC, and Switch), my PS5 is what I play the least! There isn't enough exclusives for me to come back to it. I have a decently beefy PC for the bigger games, and I got my Switch for my fun Nintendo exclusives.
It makes no sense there is talks that microsoft is starting next gen in 2026. So why would sony even do a refresh. I was so disappointed in sony this gen I actually switched to xbox this gen and with gamepass being a good deal. I think I'm done with sony and their greed.
@@Aid3nn33 1. Okay you got me on the years, my mistake, but still that is too late in this generation to release a pro model.
2. It is too late in the consoles life to expect people to pay 700 dollars for a minimal upgrade. Wake up and realize that.
3. The Playstation 4 has only lasted this long because of how damn well the 4 sold and them not wanting to cut off that steam of money. Crossplay is dying on it, and it is holding back development greatly.
4. I never said I didn't like Sony exclusives. I loved my PS4 and was excited for the future so I bought a Ps5 on launch with excitement for the titles they announced, but the future let me down and I haven't been overly impressed apart from a few of those titles. Legit all that comes to mind for me is Spider-Man 2 (which was honestly underwhelming), Ragnarok, Ratchet and Clank, and now Astro Bot. Thats only 4 titles. Plus their heavy hitters are just being released on PC later on, and also end up looking and running better on my PC. Its my own personal case and taste.
Stop being a Sony fanboy for one second and wake up and smell the roses. This is a stupid console release and is pointless at this point in its life cycle.
Good price like 400, second hand maybe. But the disc drives gonna be an issue. What's the point of the pros features if I don't already "own" my existing games digitally.
Fuurrstttt furrrrsttt 😂 bro too true!
Would happily pay for it if it had a disc drive and had cross gen disc compatibility (ps1, ps2, ps3, ps4) because I dislike having to use PS store.
0:50 that caught me off guard 😂😂
That 700 dollar in my currency is sitting at approximately 1million, which no average citizen would pay 1million just for a gaming console, lets not talk about the disk drive and the stand
I could've sworn that i saw them display 2 models at one point in the video, the focus was mainly on the model with no disc drive but at one point i saw them show 2 models. One with a disc drive, and the other digital version one.
That is the quote ,,,IT DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT FROM A CONSUMER AN A OWNER STANDPOINT
For that price I'm expecting it to answer calls, take pictures of my surroundings, bring it everywhere I go.
Without a disc drive, a stand, minor graphical upgrades and no information on load times even if I were a millionaire I wouldn't spend $700+!! Just on principal!! Just save your money for the PS6 in a few years!!
Dam I thought Stone Cold was about to open a can of whoop ass
No, they hate the pro price. If it was 600, all of them would have singing different tune