Tesla Powerwall 3 vs Fronius & BYD

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  • Опубліковано 14 лис 2024

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  • @gowanduff7501
    @gowanduff7501 11 годин тому +1

    Good to hear the pros and cons of the Tesla Powerwall 3 and the BYD battery and Fronius Inverter and power management systems. Australia seems more encouraging than NZ in the Solar connections to home car and grid. We use the same Electrical standards so we should be able to catch up quickly.

    • @fastbike9845
      @fastbike9845 2 години тому

      The whole AS/NZS thing seems to be a way of capturing us when we use similar systems to EU.But cannot access some of the innovation happening there e.g. the Battery Emulator project

  • @paulvanbrakel992
    @paulvanbrakel992 День тому +2

    I have had a BYD 16.6 HVM with a Goodwe 10KL-ET inverter since August this year, and have had 4 powercuts (we live rurally in NZ) and it sailed through when power went off and came back on without a blink except when it came on the very last time. Note I have power quality issues on the local distribution network too, and the BYD appears to protect itself pretty well from what I understand.

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому

      Nice, BYD / Goodwe is pretty rare in Australia from what I know.

  • @jeffford181
    @jeffford181 2 дні тому +9

    Just had a 10kw system installed with a Tesla 13.5 kw battery. As a big coincidence, the second day we had a blackout, and the system performed perfectly. I didn't know until I saw the message from the Tesla App. No pause in power, just instant and works. Just fantastic. Just would have liked a bigger battery, for winter.

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому +1

      Yeh the changeover is sweet. You’ll be able to get an expansion pack next year!

  • @00030263
    @00030263 10 годин тому

    Great video, is there a way to know if the Fronius/BYD system is in its full back up mode? If you weren't home and missed the few seconds where the power was off, how else would you know? Does the app tell you like the tesla system?

  • @kraminbris6980
    @kraminbris6980 День тому +1

    Great work guys. Just wondering when you'll update your website to reflect the Powerwall 3 prices and latest package options & prices?

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому

      Very soon hopefully, we're finalising indicative pricing and then overhauling our solar and battery webpages to merge them together now that the Tesla Powerwall 3 combines it all.

  • @00030263
    @00030263 10 годин тому

    On another note, with the Fronius and BYD, can you choose different times that it will stop exporting surplus power if they bring in that rule where you will be charged for exporting during the day?

  • @jasonrowe6302
    @jasonrowe6302 День тому +1

    In the Fronius + BYD combo, can you set up the system to export excess solar, and only solar to the grid, up to the line's companies export limit (say 5kWh), and use the battery and solar to cover the home's loads, i.e. to prevent the import of power on the higher day rate (24c). Any solar above the 5kWh export cap would charge the battery.
    The reason I ask is my night rate (11c) is less than the solar export rate (12c), so I would want to cover all my day power with the battery/solar, and sell as much excess power back to the grid during the day to go in credit for the night charging of the battery.
    For reference, I have 10kW of panels into an 8kW Fronius inverter.

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому +1

      Short answer is yes! But you need to add a catch power relay, and that does the work.

  • @8739paulstep7
    @8739paulstep7 День тому

    Have you reviewed the sigenergy unit?

  • @craigiedema1707
    @craigiedema1707 День тому

    If you already have a GEN24 inverter installed, would you recommend a BYD stack? Of is still a matter of "it depends"?

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому

      Yes we would recommend retrofitting a BYD stack and unlocking the GEN24, rather than removing your GEN24 to install a Tesla Powerwall 3.

  • @dacerx
    @dacerx 2 дні тому +1

    Great video guys!

  • @NeeravBhatt
    @NeeravBhatt День тому

    Hi Mark . Could you please compare the modular stackable battery systems from Sigenstor and Sungrow?

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому

      Yeh we’re actually just on our way to SigEnergy in Shanghai at the moment. That video coming soon.

    • @NeeravBhatt
      @NeeravBhatt День тому

      @mcelectrical enjoy the trip. Going along with Will?

  • @tedlawrence1348
    @tedlawrence1348 День тому

    How about comparing Enphase Battery backup

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому

      Yeh; we’ve got a few to do. Yorick and I have just boarded a plane to Shanghai to check out SigEnergy and IStore. We’ll add enphase to the list .

    • @fastbike9845
      @fastbike9845 2 години тому

      Have you taken a look at how that system works internally ?

  • @FrankJewelry
    @FrankJewelry 2 дні тому

    Thanks for the video. I would also have been interrested in firesafety! The blade battery is quite safe. How about the Tesla?

    • @lavectech
      @lavectech 2 дні тому +1

      The Powerwall 3 has an LFP battery so would be fine also.

    • @FrankJewelry
      @FrankJewelry 2 дні тому

      @@lavectech Thank you very much!

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому +1

      Yeh the strange thing about Powerwall is they don’t officially state the chemistry in Australia - just in case they want to swap it in the future. But it’s LFP at the moment -or so I’m told. So that’s safe.

  • @Dave-gg6vl
    @Dave-gg6vl 2 дні тому

    Why would you leave out Sungrow?

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому

      We stopped selling Sungrow products due to their support structures and constant issues and bugs with their software. From what I understand, these bugs have not lessened and still require intervention from installation companies to constantly follow up Sungrow for resolutions. Fronius offer much greater support. Still have issues and bugs, but they deal with them in a very professional manner.

  • @mondotv4216
    @mondotv4216 День тому

    Just to be clear - the Wattpilot $AU2000 ($1700 for the EVSE and $300 for the cable on special) by the time you add in a cable and the Tesla 3 Wall charger $AU750. So Fronius not really trying to compete with EVSEs. The Wattpilot really only makes sense if you are going Fronius Symo etc.

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому +1

      Yeh, agreeed. it’s not a cheap charger, and really only worth it if you have a Fromius inverter.

  • @Ressy66
    @Ressy66 Годину тому

    Guys, when you talk about the batteries and systems, you need to start including information on battery chemistries used in the units you are talking about. To me, the BYD's look like sturdy safer prismatic LiFePo4 cells big plus FTW, the Tesla, looks like [only god and elon knows what chemistry] pouch cells, could be the house burner NMC still for all we know even in latest powerwalls, either way, that size, they are clearly pouch cells, so make sure its well protected :)

  • @paulkearsley9509
    @paulkearsley9509 День тому

    Excellent

  • @greecemobile7610
    @greecemobile7610 День тому

    Sma vs Fronius

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому

      Waiting for the new SMA range so I can test it. That one will be a fight as big as Tyson and Paul.

  • @pokemongoprofessoroak7792
    @pokemongoprofessoroak7792 День тому

    I dont have solar or a battery system just yet. But i cant see telsa being worth it.

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому

      It’s basically the best. You get what you pay for.

  • @KevinSharpe
    @KevinSharpe 2 дні тому +10

    In Ireland we're boycotting all Musk products... hopefully consumers in Australia will do the same 🙏👍

    • @happybeerlove
      @happybeerlove День тому +2

      We're not

    • @mcelectrical
      @mcelectrical  День тому +4

      We’re hearing that more and more from customers. Obviously we’re needing options.

    • @rexjamo
      @rexjamo 22 години тому

      Not a chance. I have a Tesla and Powerwall. Elon is saving the world from intolerant woke lefties.

    • @NicZabi
      @NicZabi 11 годин тому

      Why?

    • @nickwells1588
      @nickwells1588 Годину тому

      You sound very gay in Ireland.
      I'm going to order 3 Powerwall 3 just because of you

  • @sammaimas155
    @sammaimas155 2 дні тому +18

    I just do not want anything to do with tesla. I don't want to put a dollar....into musks pocket. I drive a BYD Atto 3 and love it.

    • @happybeerlove
      @happybeerlove 2 дні тому +2

      That's great 👍

    • @Pepper.123
      @Pepper.123 День тому

      Glad your happy to put money into the CCP pockets

    • @tyronemcgillick
      @tyronemcgillick День тому

      Better to support a communist regime.

    • @dallasdrew2390
      @dallasdrew2390 День тому +9

      That's a childish immature view Musk has done nothing except improve the world for everyone including you and he will continue to do so.

    • @craigiedema1707
      @craigiedema1707 День тому +3

      @@dallasdrew2390 Neither absolute position is correct here. Musk has developed some amazing products, that arguably are an improvement, especially StarLink. That he is has some quite unpleasant views and that X is a cesspool is also true.