Thanks so much for doing a non-gila drone ship. Just tether outside any of the high sec structures and your drones will heal up from damage. Goes way faster than changing out fitting to remote rep your drones or waste isk in station repairing them.
@@captainbenzie No problem. Please remember not to go up to random player structures in low or null sec though. I figured it would be helpful to repeat that if this is a newer player video.
I think the nicest thing about the vexor for PvE especially for newbros is that it is an absolute unit for a T1 cruiser, it can face tank massive amounts of damage (especially with a t2 tank) which makes it quite forgiving for a new pilot.
Sporting an alpha friendly Vexor Navy Issue with the drone hold containing faction drones only. Design aspects aside, the Vexor is such a versatile ship with the added "thump-thump" factor of the medium hybrids, this platform is awesome. Quite a step down from my T5 Gila, but there is something very satisfactory seeing hybrid turrets connect and remove large chunks from your target's future aspirations. As mentioned by someone else, I recommend swapping out one of your nano pumps for an anti-explosive one to plug that explosion gap. Or if things seems rough, find a way to fit an adaptive nano plating in the low rack. Very nice guide of the Vexor and it's capabilities. Appreciated. Cheers!
Thanks for the 1mil skill points, keen to try Abyssal runs gonna setup a Navy Vexor that's been collecting dust in my hanger. Will see how I go, I'm def bit rusty I haven't played this game for like 6+ years plus.
Your videos, even though in Eve Online, remind me that the game can be fun, and isn't always about bloody minmaxing 🙄 The majority of the community in Eve Echoes just runs the same damn thing for everything: PvE- Apoc Striker, PvP- Apoc Striker fleet, Dormant Realms- Apoc Striker, they'd deliver freight in their Apoc Striker if they could 😒 You've always done an amazing job at showcasing the entire game, not just meta this or that. Saw a Vexor video in my notifications, and had to immediately check in! ❤🔥 Fly aggressive o7
Agree with you on the skins bit. Personal fan of slapping the exoplanet hunter skin on everything, especially amarr ships. Also the vexor will forevor be the little space potato along side the dominix as the big space potato
@@captainbenzie love the navy blue and orange. Even makes amarr vessels look good. Confessor is my favorite looking strat destroyer so I keep one around skinned for when I want to run t1 abyssals and don't want to use the 3 extra braincells the hawk requires
Hey Captain Benzie, Here's a long on for you. Please read to the end, I'm having an EVE related issue I hope you can help with. I'll start with this, I found your channel a couple months ago and it's wonderful. I'm an Alpha player with a couple years playing under my belt. I really appreciate you doing such a great job of explaining these ship builds. That is something I have struggled with, getting the biggest bang for your buck and keeping these ships stable. I have put together two of your suggested ships already. The rather expensive Caldari Drake and this latest one the Vexor. I already had a Vexor but I changed up the fit to match your suggestions. The first time out with that thing I was killing it, The DPS of your fit was almost twice what I originally had, however about an hour into my very first outing with this new killing machine, I lost it... yes, I died, not because I was over my head in some wormhole... oh no. My computer screen will just go blank. The sound is still there but not video. Pushing buttons frantically to try and get things back under control is not acceptable in a battle situation. In the past I have had to reboot a few times to try and get things back... I have play this game on 2 different computer's and this has happened on both. It has gotten to a point where I'm just not going to leave the hanger for fear of loosing my equipment. I have read dozens of forums and follow countless suggestions and am really sick of it. I really don't want to just mine asteroid belts in Hi sec space with my Venture. You seem very knowledgeable about this game and I'm hoping you have had some experience with what I've read is an EVE problem and might have a suggestion other than what the forums all say... reset this and clear out that... it's BS man. Help if you can. Thanks, keep up the good fight. I'll see ya in a near by Hi Sec asteroid belt... Mike
I wouldn't recommend this fit for abyssal newbies for a couple of reasons: 1. A Tessera (the rogue drone battlecruiser spawn in t1 abyssals) will shred your drones and you're likely to lose the DPS race against it if you get close enough to attack it with your particle cannons. It's capable of one-shotting drones so juggling them won't always work -- recalling drones takes time. 2. An unfortunately-placed automata suppressor (especially if it's medium-range) can turn relatively easy waves into long slogs since you have to move and drag enemies around before you can safely launch your drones. One of these is present in the second room in your video, but it spawned far away.
I wonder how an Augoror Navy Issue would work in that firestorm, also would 2 nano pump and 1 nanobot be a better rig load out due to diminishing loss on the 3rd nano pump?
I've been testing the ANI in C3 ratting sites and it works there, so probably. As for modifying this fit, quite possibly. As I state in the video, this isn't my fit, it's a CCP suggested one so probably a lot of room to improve.
Hi, I tried your build in some t0 to test and it went fine but when I went into t1 I barely made it out with 30 seconds left, I think it might be skill difference since I'm new? what skills should I level to make it more effective if so?
Yes, it'll be skill. Focus on weapon/drone skills (application, damage etc) and your survival skills (armour etc). Some of it will also be player skill too, learning which enemies to go for first, how to fly, etc Stick with T0 for now to build up some ISK and get some practice in - but you're on the path! Good luck!!
What is best ship for T1 abyssals? I was doing Retribution but I suck at knowing which distance is best per room and die about a fifth of the time which makes it barely profitable.
Pick a ship and learn it. The more you're swapping looking for a "best" the more you're Skilling into different weapons and fits. If you're struggling with T1s, run a bunch of T0s. You'll do them quickly so can still make good ISK and you'll start to learn the rooms.
I kinda have few question if it is not a problem. 1. I started to play on 2016 then gave up, never really payed attention to skills and so on. Because of that i am now capped on 5mil which is maximum for Alpha clone. Because of that I am unable to learn Drones 5 and because of that other skills as well. So is there a way to unlearn some skills I wont probably use so I can learn Drones 5 ( provided it is a must for this build ). 2. I am now doing Tranquil Exotic in like 4min or less, did some 200 or so never lost a ship. That give me about 15-20m/hour more if you get a nice drop. I am looking and how much loot you are getting and it seems you are getting less with more time spent. Is it just unlucky or should i stick to Exotic?
1) Basically no. Extractors require more than 5m so unless you inject above 5m then extract (which is pointless) your current skills are capped. I'd work towards eventually PLEXing Omega or paying for a weekend pack or a month. 2) If Exotics work for you, keep doing those! This video was about testing a sample fit suggested by CCP, definitely not saying it's the best option, more a "does this work"!
@@captainbenzie thanks for a quick reply. One more question then. If I cap out, let's say I use omega 7 days free and manage to learn drones 5 and other skills, what will happen when omega expires?
@@Novosadjanin82 happy to help! I did a full video on Omega, when to get it and what to do with it, but to answer your question directly: When you drop back to Alpha, any Omega exclusive skills drop off. If the SP you've used go into Alpha skills, they stay.
@@captainbenzie Thanks for that. That was amazingly helpful. In that case I will wait too get some Skill Points that I can inject, get few days of Alpha ( a week ) and push everything into that! Thanks again
The fit is just a CCP suggestion, but I'd be worried with Medium Rails and their tracking. A lot of the targets are small and fast and will get under your guns quickly.
@@captainbenzie Even with my subpar skills I can get the rails to half the tracking of the blasters, and the ability to apply 80% of antimatter damage at 30km seems really appealing to me. Id think between the web and the drones close enemies under 10km wouldnt be the issue. Being limited to 5-10km with the blasters really saps overall dps while in the room Id think.
The third nano pump is of no use; using just two give a higher total repair bonus due to the diminishing return factor! Instead slap a resistance reinforcer (i chose explo) on it, raising the weakest armor-res to about the same point as therm/kin.
I'm Abyssals there's no point. They don't drop anything, and even if they did, it's often more lucrative with Abyssals to just loot the Biocombinative and keep going (I rarely loot extraction nodes, for example, as you earn more JUST taking the Biocombinative and instead running more Abyssals in the same time)
striking leshak completely obliterated me. Used hammerheads I, they were slowly chipping away his hp but the Medium ACM Compact Armor Repairer couldnt keep up with his damage at all. the vexor was so slow, i couldnt get up to 10km before he killed me :/
I dont know what I was missing here. Fit the ship, got 2 times in a row a tower doing massive damage to the drones, while enemies were moving away from me which caused long chases. So in the end lost 2 stacks of drones and barely could catch the ships to do damage. In the end cold not reach the escape gate in time by maybe 10s. So yeah, absolutely not viable option or I just got too much bad luck.
When I ran this fit I legit died to not clearing the instance fast enough. Almost all the time was lost to slow boating to the loot caches. Would def say this needs a MWD
Thanks for another nicely narrated video on abyssal - but OMG you bled your Vexor into hull on a T1??! My T1 punisher never gets hurt that bad in T1 electricals. 😂 still thanks!
I actually don't remember what it's called!! 😅 Find the Vexor in the ship tree and you can view all the skins (or the fitting screen if you have a Vexor already). If I remember, it's one of the ones that comes in a pack and is dirt cheap on the market
I didn't forget. I chose not to. Games should be fun, and unfortunately when you start ranking things by the ISK they make, folks stop doing the thing they enjoy and start doing whatever happens to top the list.
Depends on the loot. Naturally, T0 has lower loot than a T1, but it is chance. Beyond that, make sure you're comparing cruiser to cruiser, since frigates and destroyers get more loot.
Just because you can fit it, doesn't mean you should. There are probably dozens or more skills that need to be upgraded to fit this ship efficiently/properly. It'll probably take you months. As a new player.... this is what I hate about this game.
yeah, vexor is a pretty easy ship to fly relatively competently. and you can get most core/support skills to iv pretty quick (80/20 rule), like within a month or so, less if you utilize the various free sp sources, an optimal remap, and implants. also: if you are looking at abyssals, you have probably already been playing for a bit, maybe even having completed the sister's arc by this point
Thanks so much for doing a non-gila drone ship. Just tether outside any of the high sec structures and your drones will heal up from damage. Goes way faster than changing out fitting to remote rep your drones or waste isk in station repairing them.
Thanks for the tips!
@@captainbenzie No problem. Please remember not to go up to random player structures in low or null sec though. I figured it would be helpful to repeat that if this is a newer player video.
I think the nicest thing about the vexor for PvE especially for newbros is that it is an absolute unit for a T1 cruiser, it can face tank massive amounts of damage (especially with a t2 tank) which makes it quite forgiving for a new pilot.
Sporting an alpha friendly Vexor Navy Issue with the drone hold containing faction drones only. Design aspects aside, the Vexor is such a versatile ship with the added "thump-thump" factor of the medium hybrids, this platform is awesome. Quite a step down from my T5 Gila, but there is something very satisfactory seeing hybrid turrets connect and remove large chunks from your target's future aspirations.
As mentioned by someone else, I recommend swapping out one of your nano pumps for an anti-explosive one to plug that explosion gap. Or if things seems rough, find a way to fit an adaptive nano plating in the low rack.
Very nice guide of the Vexor and it's capabilities. Appreciated.
Cheers!
Thank you! The fit here isn't mine, it's CCPs suggested - and the swap does seem a good idea! Also I love the "removing future aspirations" 😂
Thanks for the 1mil skill points, keen to try Abyssal runs gonna setup a Navy Vexor that's been collecting dust in my hanger. Will see how I go, I'm def bit rusty I haven't played this game for like 6+ years plus.
Good luck, and remember that ships are just another type of ammo! Sometimes you have to lose one to learn something! Keep at it.
Your videos, even though in Eve Online, remind me that the game can be fun, and isn't always about bloody minmaxing 🙄
The majority of the community in Eve Echoes just runs the same damn thing for everything: PvE- Apoc Striker, PvP- Apoc Striker fleet, Dormant Realms- Apoc Striker, they'd deliver freight in their Apoc Striker if they could 😒
You've always done an amazing job at showcasing the entire game, not just meta this or that. Saw a Vexor video in my notifications, and had to immediately check in! ❤🔥
Fly aggressive o7
Haha thanks man! And it can be the same in EO, the amount of folks I see talking about Abyssals who act like the Gila is the only ship...
if they like it
Thanks for this latest series, I'm heading into cruisers now.
Great to hear!
Nice vid, I'm going to check it out now.
Hope you enjoy it!
Agree with you on the skins bit. Personal fan of slapping the exoplanet hunter skin on everything, especially amarr ships. Also the vexor will forevor be the little space potato along side the dominix as the big space potato
Lmao yes it is! Exoplanet Hunter is a cool skin!
@@captainbenzie love the navy blue and orange. Even makes amarr vessels look good. Confessor is my favorite looking strat destroyer so I keep one around skinned for when I want to run t1 abyssals and don't want to use the 3 extra braincells the hawk requires
Hey Captain Benzie, Here's a long on for you. Please read to the end, I'm having an EVE related issue I hope you can help with.
I'll start with this, I found your channel a couple months ago and it's wonderful. I'm an Alpha player with a couple years playing under my belt. I really appreciate you doing such a great job of explaining these ship builds. That is something I have struggled with, getting the biggest bang for your buck and keeping these ships stable. I have put together two of your suggested ships already. The rather expensive Caldari Drake and this latest one the Vexor. I already had a Vexor but I changed up the fit to match your suggestions. The first time out with that thing I was killing it, The DPS of your fit was almost twice what I originally had, however about an hour into my very first outing with this new killing machine, I lost it... yes, I died, not because I was over my head in some wormhole... oh no. My computer screen will just go blank. The sound is still there but not video. Pushing buttons frantically to try and get things back under control is not acceptable in a battle situation. In the past I have had to reboot a few times to try and get things back... I have play this game on 2 different computer's and this has happened on both. It has gotten to a point where I'm just not going to leave the hanger for fear of loosing my equipment. I have read dozens of forums and follow countless suggestions and am really sick of it. I really don't want to just mine asteroid belts in Hi sec space with my Venture.
You seem very knowledgeable about this game and I'm hoping you have had some experience with what I've read is an EVE problem and might have a suggestion other than what the forums all say... reset this and clear out that... it's BS man. Help if you can. Thanks, keep up the good fight. I'll see ya in a near by Hi Sec asteroid belt...
Mike
What hardware ya running?
Gud day Cpt and Commanders, I have a Caracal and can do all T0 filaments like a boss awesome ship
Nice!
Yessssssss
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I wouldn't recommend this fit for abyssal newbies for a couple of reasons:
1. A Tessera (the rogue drone battlecruiser spawn in t1 abyssals) will shred your drones and you're likely to lose the DPS race against it if you get close enough to attack it with your particle cannons. It's capable of one-shotting drones so juggling them won't always work -- recalling drones takes time.
2. An unfortunately-placed automata suppressor (especially if it's medium-range) can turn relatively easy waves into long slogs since you have to move and drag enemies around before you can safely launch your drones. One of these is present in the second room in your video, but it spawned far away.
Drones are always a weird one due to the towers, but I've had no issues with the Tessera's at all
have you ever tried a maller in the abyssal deadspace? would be interested in seeing it
Testing it currently 😉
@@captainbenziegood to hear, I've been looking for a use for the Maller other than in FW battlefields.
I wonder how an Augoror Navy Issue would work in that firestorm, also would 2 nano pump and 1 nanobot be a better rig load out due to diminishing loss on the 3rd nano pump?
I've been testing the ANI in C3 ratting sites and it works there, so probably. As for modifying this fit, quite possibly. As I state in the video, this isn't my fit, it's a CCP suggested one so probably a lot of room to improve.
I'm kinda curious how the Thorax does in abyssal.
It's one I'll be testing soon!
Hi, I tried your build in some t0 to test and it went fine but when I went into t1 I barely made it out with 30 seconds left, I think it might be skill difference since I'm new? what skills should I level to make it more effective if so?
Yes, it'll be skill. Focus on weapon/drone skills (application, damage etc) and your survival skills (armour etc). Some of it will also be player skill too, learning which enemies to go for first, how to fly, etc
Stick with T0 for now to build up some ISK and get some practice in - but you're on the path! Good luck!!
@@captainbenzie Thanks 🙂
Vexor is a very solid ship and a great multi role ship.
Yup!
What is best ship for T1 abyssals? I was doing Retribution but I suck at knowing which distance is best per room and die about a fifth of the time which makes it barely profitable.
Pick a ship and learn it. The more you're swapping looking for a "best" the more you're Skilling into different weapons and fits.
If you're struggling with T1s, run a bunch of T0s. You'll do them quickly so can still make good ISK and you'll start to learn the rooms.
How does a passive shield tank Vexor do in abyssals?
Not well. It doesn't have much shield and that gets hit pretty hard in Abyssals.
the vexor is ok. i quess. well it looks like a hair dryer in space but if that what you want to fly around in then you'll love it.
Yeah, it's a very distinctive ship 😂
Can you do agitated? On something that is not gila
I've shown a few like the Cerberus, Sacrilege, and Vagabond
I kinda have few question if it is not a problem.
1. I started to play on 2016 then gave up, never really payed attention to skills and so on. Because of that i am now capped on 5mil which is maximum for Alpha clone. Because of that I am unable to learn Drones 5 and because of that other skills as well. So is there a way to unlearn some skills I wont probably use so I can learn Drones 5 ( provided it is a must for this build ).
2. I am now doing Tranquil Exotic in like 4min or less, did some 200 or so never lost a ship. That give me about 15-20m/hour more if you get a nice drop. I am looking and how much loot you are getting and it seems you are getting less with more time spent. Is it just unlucky or should i stick to Exotic?
1) Basically no. Extractors require more than 5m so unless you inject above 5m then extract (which is pointless) your current skills are capped. I'd work towards eventually PLEXing Omega or paying for a weekend pack or a month.
2) If Exotics work for you, keep doing those! This video was about testing a sample fit suggested by CCP, definitely not saying it's the best option, more a "does this work"!
@@captainbenzie thanks for a quick reply. One more question then. If I cap out, let's say I use omega 7 days free and manage to learn drones 5 and other skills, what will happen when omega expires?
@@Novosadjanin82 happy to help! I did a full video on Omega, when to get it and what to do with it, but to answer your question directly:
When you drop back to Alpha, any Omega exclusive skills drop off. If the SP you've used go into Alpha skills, they stay.
@@captainbenzie Thanks for that. That was amazingly helpful. In that case I will wait too get some Skill Points that I can inject, get few days of Alpha ( a week ) and push everything into that!
Thanks again
@@Novosadjanin82 Awesome, and good luck!!
ı want to ask which flament did you used ı am a very beginner
Id think running small rails would do better, the range profile is excellent on them.
The fit is just a CCP suggestion, but I'd be worried with Medium Rails and their tracking. A lot of the targets are small and fast and will get under your guns quickly.
@@captainbenzie Even with my subpar skills I can get the rails to half the tracking of the blasters, and the ability to apply 80% of antimatter damage at 30km seems really appealing to me. Id think between the web and the drones close enemies under 10km wouldnt be the issue. Being limited to 5-10km with the blasters really saps overall dps while in the room Id think.
The third nano pump is of no use; using just two give a higher total repair bonus due to the diminishing return factor!
Instead slap a resistance reinforcer (i chose explo) on it, raising the weakest armor-res to about the same point as therm/kin.
Good change! The fit is one CCP suggests, and so I'm sure there are loads of ways to improve on it - this is definitely one of them!
@@captainbenzie Thanks! its always interesting to see how fits can be put together and adjusted :)
I have a noob question... Why not salvage the wrecks??
I'm Abyssals there's no point. They don't drop anything, and even if they did, it's often more lucrative with Abyssals to just loot the Biocombinative and keep going (I rarely loot extraction nodes, for example, as you earn more JUST taking the Biocombinative and instead running more Abyssals in the same time)
striking leshak completely obliterated me. Used hammerheads I, they were slowly chipping away his hp but the Medium ACM Compact Armor Repairer
couldnt keep up with his damage at all. the vexor was so slow, i couldnt get up to 10km before he killed me :/
I dont know what I was missing here. Fit the ship, got 2 times in a row a tower doing massive damage to the drones, while enemies were moving away from me which caused long chases. So in the end lost 2 stacks of drones and barely could catch the ships to do damage. In the end cold not reach the escape gate in time by maybe 10s. So yeah, absolutely not viable option or I just got too much bad luck.
Very bad luck and pilot away from the towers early when you spot them
Vexor is 100% viable, I just don't like drones in abyss either
Bro, can I ask for help? My vindicator ship was destroyed. My insurance points have run out. How do I find the insurance points?🙂
...you buy more with PLEX, sadly.
So I used the link... Logged in... But no 1000000 skill points???
When you next log into game there's an icon on the bottom left of your neocom, click that and it should be thete
When I ran this fit I legit died to not clearing the instance fast enough. Almost all the time was lost to slow boating to the loot caches. Would def say this needs a MWD
You don't go for the loot caches. Only the biocombinative. The extraction nodes are not worth it
Thanks for another nicely narrated video on abyssal - but OMG you bled your Vexor into hull on a T1??! My T1 punisher never gets hurt that bad in T1 electricals. 😂 still thanks!
It's a very basic fit suggested by CCP, probably not the best and it's quite big and slow so doesn't avoid damage like the Punisher does 😉
What skin is this?
I actually don't remember what it's called!! 😅 Find the Vexor in the ship tree and you can view all the skins (or the fitting screen if you have a Vexor already). If I remember, it's one of the ones that comes in a pack and is dirt cheap on the market
You forgot to say how much per run/h
I didn't forget. I chose not to. Games should be fun, and unfortunately when you start ranking things by the ISK they make, folks stop doing the thing they enjoy and start doing whatever happens to top the list.
Vexor is autofelating lobster.
T1 abyssals suck, I got 900k from one compared to 4-6mil from t0, so frustrating
Depends on the loot. Naturally, T0 has lower loot than a T1, but it is chance. Beyond that, make sure you're comparing cruiser to cruiser, since frigates and destroyers get more loot.
Just because you can fit it, doesn't mean you should. There are probably dozens or more skills that need to be upgraded to fit this ship efficiently/properly. It'll probably take you months. As a new player.... this is what I hate about this game.
It really doesn't take months. I did a video on how to skill into whatever ship you want to fly and the Vexor is very quick.
yeah, vexor is a pretty easy ship to fly relatively competently. and you can get most core/support skills to iv pretty quick (80/20 rule), like within a month or so, less if you utilize the various free sp sources, an optimal remap, and implants.
also: if you are looking at abyssals, you have probably already been playing for a bit, maybe even having completed the sister's arc by this point
Gallente ship sure are chunky and ugly (except Kronos)
I quite like the Algos, Megathron, and Vexor hulls
@@captainbenzie agreed. However, whenever I see Obelisk flying around I have hard time not laughing, they look so silly :D