For the price of $300 or so,I suggest you shout yourself a decent quick acting garage jack.That’s a light auto,- used to work on the Sunbeam in the late sixties.A modern jack would send that Tiger to the skies with zero effort.But never stick your head under a vehicle without heavy duty stands and/or the wheels chocked and emergency brake set.
Had one of these but the 260 cu in engine, the Mk 1 in England back in 1968, It was one year old then and a great car. Tons of power, topped out at 140 mph on the speedo!
In 1968 I bought a real nice Sunbeam Tiger with a blown engine. Managed to put a 315 cube Olds/Buick engine in it. We estimated about 240-260 horses. What a fun car!!! $900 invested, sold it for $2000. Wish I still had it.
I had several of these, once upon a time. Couldn't afford one now. The best drop-in was a Boss 302 block with Windsor heads. Ford even supplied the nuts and bolts to make this swap happen. Keep on truckin!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Your experiences with stuff, INCLUDING YOUR MISTAKES, remind me so much of myself. The only thing missing from this video is that I probably would have gotten a speeding ticket on the test drive. Enjoy they hell out of this. I'm riding along and enjoying every minute!
Keep it up brother, after a 46 year run, a very dear friend surrendered his Tiger to me a few weeks back, and I 'm. tasked with bring this beast back to it's glory days, thank gawd it was in Arizona all that time.
It’s been fun watching you push through this project. Having Tigers since 1976 I’ve pulled engines more times than I care to admit. My latest is a 400 hp 347ci TKO 5spd in all honesty it’s a bit over the top!
Such a beautiful classic, beautifully re-engineered with love and more than a good helping of expertise. This Tiger sounds so good it almost wants to be someone’s daily drive! Great job guys!
Had a Tiger in late 70’s, loved it. Converted to 302, automatic.sound crazy, but he British clutch system, big pain. 302 ran like a clock and blew the door on so much stuff. Removed the engine at least 3 times, always a challenge to say the least. Ran well on the west coast, but moved to colder climate and ran like a pig. Put Koni shocks on it and improved the handling like a champ. Michelin tire another huge improvement. Wonderful time!
@@keepkalm He's not talking about it creaking he's talking about it being a tiny POS that doesn't have a head big enough to grip anything, and being capable of lifting anything to a worthwhile height, he needs a real jack. That's a portable jack you toss in your car to swap wheels/tires at the track.
I’ve had several 302 motors in Ford pick ups and they’ve always started as soon as you touch the key. The Quickstart up is when you know your Ford is right!
In the early 70's when I was about 10 years old my uncle had a Sunbeam Alpine and it was truly scary. I can't imagine it having a 289 V8. Those cars are put together like a Swiss watch.
Didn't Max and 99 work for Control, and want to defeat KAOS? I wouldn't have remembered, but KAOS came up in a crossword puzzle not too long ago - not that I'm a geezer who does crosswords, or anything.
Nice to see one of the best cars to come out of the Rootes Factory(of Coventry, England) in the mid-'60s still going strong! I worked there when these were made and cancelled due to Chrysler buying into the company and not being prepared to have a rivals engine in a car they were producing! The small-block hemi was too wide to fit and the numbers did not stack up to modify the whole under bonnet area to make it fit! There were an awful lot of very poor decisions taken by motor manufacturing management in the '60s & ''70s that caused the eventual downfall of the British motor industry!
Reference the 100 degree temps, I live in Texas where that is pretty normal for the Summer months. I finally got around to putting in a window ac unit that keeps my garage at a steady 78 degrees. Best money I have recently spent on car related purchase. My Labrador Retriever is sold on it too. I have always loved those 289 Tigers. I am way too tall to have one or I would. You have a really nice hot rod you there.
When you have a little car with a (big for them) V8 the real worry is the entire car heating up. If you're not getting fried through the trans tunnel, you're probably OK. He he. Oh, and modern engines tend to run hotter than old school ones did. Anything under 200 is cool enough. Just drive fast enough that the heat can't catch you. Thanks for the fun.
I just love those old cars. Crash tranny, slam it into gear, double clutch. I drove one in the 70's in San Fransico. It snowed on Mt. Tamalpais while I was driving up. Thank god I know how to drive a manual transmission.
Yes, in the old "non-pc" days, we'd call it a 'slave' cylinder. I wonder if all the Haynes, Clymer manuals have been pulled! Anyhow, congrats on that swap, she sounds awesome!👍
The little dash above '90' on your temp gauge is where the needle should point- and it's where the thermostat will keep it. Running above that without the bonnet (!) is a bit on the hot side. Edit to add, during your test drive, it was below the mark.
Good eye! The V12 in the Century was available in about '97 and that would be sweet. Mine is a '92 so it's got the little 4.0 liter hemi V8. I've driven that car all over the country!
Get that tach workin Brad! Want to hear 6500 rpm! I am stuffing a 454 in a 53 chevy and enjoy the challenges and figuring and small fabrication too. Good stuff.
Happy Days ! Guess the brakes may need beefing up. They called it the poor man's Cobra.......big deal !! Great stuff. No need to say enjoy yourself , your already there !
I have a red 65 tiger for sale that has a shelby 289 in it with a sweet 4 speed. I have the original rebuilt 260 and transmission. Accessory drive is in place as well. Road racer never wrecked with the original paint. Survivor car. DM for further info and pics.
Looks like the radiator on Tigers are darn small, wonder if they make a thicker / higher capacity aftermarket one? Had that issue in my old Chev Monza 350, always ran hot, but closer to 220! Chevy's !
Well, the 289 HiPower the Tiger's came with were 271HP solid lifter SB's. How much power does this one have? I miss my Shelby cam, Isky rods, port, polish matched, etc in the .030 over SB I built for my old CobraII. Idled like a galloping horse.
You should get ahold of Dakota Digital, and see if they can convert your gauge to all electronic. They'd just use the stock gauges, and convert the guts, I believe.
My best and most sought piece is a “Southampton flyback ‘chronograph’” if anybody cares, but I typically wear the vintage skin divers something about that look.
Another good eye! It's an old "Made in Great Britain" Timex I picked up at a roadside flea market stand on an old car rally a long time ago. I paid a quarter for it, I think it's 1950's. Big spender over here!
The coil + wire must not be attached to the coil it must be attached to the tach then from the tach to the coil +. This will work fine if your tach is good. I have done a few like that with no problems.
Thanks! My only concern (so far) is that it seems to creep up pretty good after you turn it off, but it doesn't seem to bother it. I think I'm just going to have to get used to the fact that this is going to run hotter than that stock 260, which just ran so cool all the time.
BradP69 post shutdown heat soak is normal. It probably will run a bit hotter than the old motor. It’s got more capacity and a higher state of tune. If you were keeping the Holley, I would suggest the addition of a phenolic spacer. Since you’re going to switch to EFI, that’s probably not needed. Although I’m not knowledgeable about EFI and can’t say for sure whether heat soak into an EFI throttle body system is an issue or not.
Have you checked the actual temp of the engine with a infrared temp gauge? 175-180 would be normal for me and 190 when driving in slow traffic. But i had a friend who rebuilt a Ford Flattie project and had all the gauges rebuilt by a famous company. on the 1st test drive he panicked and thought he had cooked the new engine. He pulled the engine and couldn't find a fault. Re installing it he found it still had the same overheating issue. I told him to check the actual engine temp...it was only 170 after a long run.... ha ha ha .The guages were sent to another company who said the only thing that had been done to them was replacing the faces and cleaning the housings.
The 89 is a pretty common mid grade around here- and it's non ethanol which is nice. I think a lot of people use it for their boats and lawnmowers, and it's been fine for my other "old" cars. This one has had hardened valve seats put in the heads, so I can let 'er rip with any modern fuel now. Shell 93 here we go!
Sounds GOOD man 289 is a Great motor good power
For the price of $300 or so,I suggest you shout yourself a decent quick acting garage jack.That’s a light auto,- used to work on the Sunbeam in the late sixties.A modern jack would send that Tiger to the skies with zero effort.But never stick your head under a vehicle without heavy duty stands and/or the wheels chocked and emergency brake set.
Had one of these but the 260 cu in engine, the Mk 1 in England back in 1968, It was one year old then and a great car. Tons of power, topped out at 140 mph on the speedo!
In 1968 I bought a real nice Sunbeam Tiger with a blown engine. Managed to put a 315 cube Olds/Buick engine in it. We estimated about 240-260 horses. What a fun car!!! $900 invested, sold it for $2000. Wish I still had it.
I had several of these, once upon a time. Couldn't afford one now.
The best drop-in was a Boss 302 block with Windsor heads. Ford even supplied the nuts
and bolts to make this swap happen.
Keep on truckin!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Your experiences with stuff, INCLUDING YOUR MISTAKES, remind me so much of myself. The only thing missing from this video is that I probably would have gotten a speeding ticket on the test drive. Enjoy they hell out of this. I'm riding along and enjoying every minute!
Keep it up brother, after a 46 year run, a very dear friend surrendered his Tiger to me a few weeks back, and I 'm. tasked with bring this beast back to it's glory days, thank gawd it was in Arizona all that time.
It’s been fun watching you push through this project. Having Tigers since 1976 I’ve pulled engines more times than I care to admit. My latest is a 400 hp 347ci TKO 5spd in all honesty it’s a bit over the top!
Such a beautiful classic, beautifully re-engineered with love and more than a good helping of expertise. This Tiger sounds so good it almost wants to be someone’s daily drive! Great job guys!
Love this car - always wanted a Tiger
When I was a kid, my neighbor had a Tiger. Even as a kid I knew it was special. Sounds good.
I love this series. Thank you for great content!
Great job, getting your Tiger back on the road again and it sounds awesome.
Had a Tiger in late 70’s, loved it.
Converted to 302, automatic.sound crazy, but he British clutch system, big pain.
302 ran like a clock and blew the door on so much stuff.
Removed the engine at least 3 times, always a challenge to say the least.
Ran well on the west coast, but moved to colder climate and ran like a pig.
Put Koni shocks on it and improved the handling like a champ.
Michelin tire another huge improvement.
Wonderful time!
Gawd, does she sound sweet, you are one lucky man to tool around in that, I'm so envious, best of luck.
Time to get a real floor jack.That one is scary!
All new floor jacks make that creaky about-to-fail sound.
@@keepkalm He's not talking about it creaking he's talking about it being a tiny POS that doesn't have a head big enough to grip anything, and being capable of lifting anything to a worthwhile height, he needs a real jack. That's a portable jack you toss in your car to swap wheels/tires at the track.
Everything this guy does scares me.....
Agreed!
@@TimothyBlairMusic believe me, I know my limits and I'm usually over them.
I’ve had several 302 motors in Ford pick ups and they’ve always started as soon as you touch the key. The Quickstart up is when you know your Ford is right!
In the early 70's when I was about 10 years old my uncle had a Sunbeam Alpine and it was truly scary. I can't imagine it having a 289 V8. Those cars are put together like a Swiss watch.
Congrats! I've been trying to carve out some time to get my garage project done, and you have shown me there is a light at the end of the garage.
This whole project took this long because I'm juggling a day job and a very busy family. I get it!
Thanks for the ride in your Tiger. It’s been a long time since I have been in one.
Better call up agent 99 and head out to defeat Control! Only we old guys will get the reference!
You are so right “Cheif”
What's the number of your shoe?
Didn't Max and 99 work for Control, and want to defeat KAOS? I wouldn't have remembered, but KAOS came up in a crossword puzzle not too long ago - not that I'm a geezer who does crosswords, or anything.
Yes you are right sir @@stephenandloriyoung5716
Missed it by that much!
Something you might consider is a FLEXaLITE 6 BLADE FAN it did the trick for me the Aluminum Radiator is a plus .
As soon as you turned the key and she fired, I smashed the like button! You built yourself a very nice hot rod!
thanks, can't wait to get it out on the road and mix it up!
Enjoy it.
Nice to see one of the best cars to come out of the Rootes Factory(of Coventry, England) in the mid-'60s still going strong! I worked there when these were made and cancelled due to Chrysler buying into the company and not being prepared to have a rivals engine in a car they were producing! The small-block hemi was too wide to fit and the numbers did not stack up to modify the whole under bonnet area to make it fit! There were an awful lot of very poor decisions taken by motor manufacturing management in the '60s & ''70s that caused the eventual downfall of the British motor industry!
Reference the 100 degree temps, I live in Texas where that is pretty normal for the Summer months. I finally got around to putting in a window ac unit that keeps my garage at a steady 78 degrees. Best money I have recently spent on car related purchase. My Labrador Retriever is sold on it too. I have always loved those 289 Tigers. I am way too tall to have one or I would. You have a really nice hot rod you there.
When you have a little car with a (big for them) V8 the real worry is the entire car heating up. If you're not getting fried through the trans tunnel, you're probably OK. He he. Oh, and modern engines tend to run hotter than old school ones did. Anything under 200 is cool enough. Just drive fast enough that the heat can't catch you. Thanks for the fun.
My LS3 has run at 205*F since I got it with 34 miles.
Wow great work! Very nice work!
I just love those old cars. Crash tranny, slam it into gear, double clutch. I drove one in the 70's in San Fransico. It snowed on Mt. Tamalpais while I was driving up. Thank god I know how to drive a manual transmission.
Yes, in the old "non-pc" days, we'd call it a 'slave' cylinder. I wonder if all the Haynes, Clymer manuals have been pulled! Anyhow, congrats on that swap, she sounds awesome!👍
Need to invite Davin to come take it out for a spin once you've finished it all!!!
We're trying to figure out some stuff on that!
The little dash above '90' on your temp gauge is where the needle should point- and it's where the thermostat will keep it. Running above that without the bonnet (!) is a bit on the hot side. Edit to add, during your test drive, it was below the mark.
Those little Tigers are/were very fast cars. If you ever get it sorted out, it will be a truly terrifying sports car... Have fun.
I'm smiling right along with ya!
Great fun the way that little car pulls with a V8
Power to weight ratio is key, so having a light car is basically getting free horsepower!
Oh there is a rare toyota century too :o I got a weakness for that v12 engine
Good eye! The V12 in the Century was available in about '97 and that would be sweet. Mine is a '92 so it's got the little 4.0 liter hemi V8. I've driven that car all over the country!
If I remember right you are running the waterless coolant. They always read a little higher on temp.
Get that tach workin Brad! Want to hear 6500 rpm! I am stuffing a 454 in a 53 chevy and enjoy the challenges and figuring and small fabrication too. Good stuff.
They all run hot
What a sweet engine the 289 is👍
You have the fine rpm air gap manifold that comes on at 3000 rpm and up.
Happy Days ! Guess the brakes may need beefing up. They called it the poor man's Cobra.......big deal !! Great stuff. No need to say enjoy yourself , your already there !
Am happy for you bud. Good job.
Im gonna have to watch the previous videos on it
sounds very good a lil more playing with it you'll have it ready!
Great build its going to fly
That is really cool ive never seen one of those cars before. Bet that thing will really move on.
They were a genuine rival to the Shelby Cobra when it first came out with the same 289ci engine!
Runs And drives really nice well done
Very happy I bet 🔥🔥🔥🍿🍿🎥
You’re a fortunate guy.
I have a red 65 tiger for sale that has a shelby 289 in it with a sweet 4 speed. I have the original rebuilt 260 and transmission. Accessory drive is in place as well. Road racer never wrecked with the original paint. Survivor car. DM for further info and pics.
Where is the episode with EFI installation on your Sunbeam Tiger?
Nice film thanks.
Is that a V12 Century sitting in the back of your garage.
Slightly earlier model with the 4.0 V8. I used it as an anchor point to pull the Tiger engine, check it out in a previous episode!
Oh my!
Yeah, I watched it later and was like "why do I always say things like that." Good grief. :)
Great job, Brad. Very entertaining series. Les E., a couple blocks away from you. If you ever need some help, post-covid, just ask.
So where is the episode with you installing EFI on your 289 Sunbeam Tiger??
Looks like the radiator on Tigers are darn small, wonder if they make a thicker / higher capacity aftermarket one? Had that issue in my old Chev Monza 350, always ran hot, but closer to 220! Chevy's !
Man, that’s a nice sounding car! Nice job!
PS, you owe Oliver a 'Thanks' also!
Your roller rocker arms dont touch, real good.
Sweet.
Go with lighter springs inside the MSD distributor so all in at 2300 rpm. You have a light car.
10 degrees advance is perfect...
Advance the ignition and adjust the idle speed.
I like modern heads, World Products, try to get 58 cc cylinder volume for about 9.8 ratio compress.
Well, the 289 HiPower the Tiger's came with were 271HP solid lifter SB's. How much power does this one have? I miss my Shelby cam, Isky rods, port, polish matched, etc in the .030 over SB I built for my old CobraII. Idled like a galloping horse.
Note. Tigers were never offered with a k code 289/271 hp engine.
You should get ahold of Dakota Digital, and see if they can convert your gauge to all electronic. They'd just use the stock gauges, and convert the guts, I believe.
I love the look of stock gauges, I wonder if they could silk screen a new tach face with a higher RPM scale...
@@BradP69 Give em a yell. I expect they could.
Are you driving around in Michigan?
“oh MY”
Buddy did Alpine to Tiger conversions, didn't upgrade brake....every drive was a Near Death Experience
It’s going to run a little warmer with the hood on!
I love it with the hood off, I sort of hate to put it back on.
Will be fun to see how you like it when you put the EFI in 😍
Am I wrong, but it looks like you have a ton of play in the steering wheel. Other than that it looked like a great test drive. Enjoy
Atta boy Brad - now please, get a real floor jack before that one kills you!
What’s the watch looks like a vintage timex perhaps a marlin or mercury? I got the vintage timex bug a few years back myself.
My best and most sought piece is a “Southampton flyback ‘chronograph’” if anybody cares, but I typically wear the vintage skin divers something about that look.
Another good eye! It's an old "Made in Great Britain" Timex I picked up at a roadside flea market stand on an old car rally a long time ago. I paid a quarter for it, I think it's 1950's. Big spender over here!
Run a new wire from the + coil wire to your tach and then back to the coil + and your tach willwork fine.
Are you sure you meant what you said?
The coil + wire must not be attached to the coil it must be attached to the tach then from the tach to the coil +. This will work fine if your tach is good. I have done a few like that with no problems.
Stop worrying about 190 degrees. She is right where she needs to be. You do not want carbon building up on your pistons and valves.
190-200° is typical for factory running temps. If your engine is in the 180-200 range, it should be fine.
Thanks! My only concern (so far) is that it seems to creep up pretty good after you turn it off, but it doesn't seem to bother it. I think I'm just going to have to get used to the fact that this is going to run hotter than that stock 260, which just ran so cool all the time.
BradP69 post shutdown heat soak is normal. It probably will run a bit hotter than the old motor. It’s got more capacity and a higher state of tune. If you were keeping the Holley, I would suggest the addition of a phenolic spacer. Since you’re going to switch to EFI, that’s probably not needed. Although I’m not knowledgeable about EFI and can’t say for sure whether heat soak into an EFI throttle body system is an issue or not.
Write in Budrick potto for president.
Have you checked the actual temp of the engine with a infrared temp gauge? 175-180 would be normal for me and 190 when driving in slow traffic. But i had a friend who rebuilt a Ford Flattie project and had all the gauges rebuilt by a famous company. on the 1st test drive he panicked and thought he had cooked the new engine. He pulled the engine and couldn't find a fault. Re installing it he found it still had the same overheating issue. I told him to check the actual engine temp...it was only 170 after a long run.... ha ha ha .The guages were sent to another company who said the only thing that had been done to them was replacing the faces and cleaning the housings.
I shall do that
Is it legal to drive with no bonnet (hood), or speedo, particularly as the none functioning tachometer cannot be used to ascertain speed?
FYI, its not a motor, its an engine! Motors are electric!
If it's a stock tachometer. It's likely the new distributor isn't playing nice with it. Very common.
Perhaps so. But it was janky with the old motor, too!
@@BradP69 it's been a year! any final updates or progress?
Evans is a good product but keep an eye on temperature 'cause it can go very high with this. Just saying.
The motor was broke in after the first dyno pull. Drive it like you stole it.
It may cool better with the hood on
What is that in the garage with the tiger?
Looks like a 90’s Toyota Century (a Japan only luxury car)
Yeap sweet Toyota Century, very unique I hope it is the V12 :)
...any more updates?
The gauge problems are due to the fact that they are ‘60’s British quality😅
if it has dyno time, it's already broken in.... burn out in 3....2....whaaaaaaa
You don't want to see that wheel hop!
No rev counter, no Speedo, driving by ear, what a soundtrack………
Is that a Russian limousine that you have in your garage?
Dude! Buy a real floor jack!!!
When you lift a TR3 it doesn't creak like that. Upgrade on the way!
I'm going to buy a 1962 chev 409 and swap it for a 4 cylinder Nissan same thing here
👏
Most tigers were 260's ,not 289's
If your timing was any more advanced, you’d be knocking the nose off the starter!
thanks for the tip!
Pornography for the ears, it's beautiful.
In which banana republic you can still buy 89 octane????
The 89 is a pretty common mid grade around here- and it's non ethanol which is nice. I think a lot of people use it for their boats and lawnmowers, and it's been fine for my other "old" cars. This one has had hardened valve seats put in the heads, so I can let 'er rip with any modern fuel now. Shell 93 here we go!
BradP69 in Germany you get sometimes 92 octane. 95 is usual for normal cars. 98 fit better performance. Shell and BP sell 100 and 102 octane too