Fixing the Previous Owner's Bad Ideas on my Sunbeam Tiger
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
- Today I upgrade my Sunbeam Tiger with to use parts that didn't exist when it was built and fix a wrong that a previous owner had done.
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This Week With Cars - Episode 0315
#ClassicCars #Sunbeam #BarnFind - Авто та транспорт
Definitely makes sense just to run it if you already have a restored one and it doesn't stop you from continuing to improve it over time and ensuring it doesn't deteriorate so that you could still have the option of doing a full restoration at some point in future.
Definitely want to see more videos like this. Love the old cars.
That’s a real neat fix for the oil filter! 👍
Way to go. Good video and hopefully good filter upgrade. That filter resemble the unit used on Gravelys and other yard equipment back in the '60s. I have a Rootes dress up kit for a Tiger containing finned aluminum valve covers (no pcv opening), and chrome dipstick. I picked it up back in the '70s; never found a Tiger to go with it.
I missed the first video on the barn find Tigers and can't wait to find and watch it! How in the world do you barn find such awesome cars? First it was the bugeye Sprites and now a collection of Tigers? Amazing!
Imagine air filter is next. It looked about as clean as the old motor oil.
That has got to be the cleverest and simplest most obvious point of failure correction. On one of my favorite cars as a child. 👍
would really like to see another video regarding the conversion of electrical/ignition. Seems very cool upgrade...
Always enjoyable to watch you sort out problems and perform maintenance on old cars. Would like if you did a little feature on how you do the overhead videos. I can see the pole either in shadows or in your hand but it disappears at a distance.
I think the camera automatically edits it out somehow.
My next door neighbor had a 65 Tiger in BR green. It was a fast fun car to drive. He put some glass paks on it and it sounded great. Oh, for the good old days.
Nice car, the Tiger. Always nice how you explain step by step what you do to a car Steve.
No oil filter at all, amazing. My uncle rebuilds Tigers and makes his own hydraulic lines for the oil filter relo system. That short filter looks a whole lot simpler. Pretty Tiger!
No oil cooler though with this
My Tiger has been essentially in moth balls for about 20 years. I'm finally in a position to give it the love it deserves. Would your uncle want to tackle a new project? It's a Mk2 and I'm the 2nd owner.
@@richardcook4111 I don't know how booked out he is at the moment, but you could ask him. His contact info is online as "The Austin Healer" (he does Healeys too).
Having just had an issue with my cartridge type filter on my bugeye sprite, I really enjoyed this episode and solution.
I hope you really snugged that oil filter adapter well as they are TIGHT from Ford. That oil looked about the consistency and color of driveway sealer. You might want to change that tiny oil filter 2-3 times in a few hundred miles then do an oil change at 1000-1500 then again at 1000-1500. There are several other lengths of shorty oil filters available with that 3/4-16 thread and ~2-13/16" OD body, being careful with the gasket diameter. Looks like a fun car to resuscitate👍.
In the first two seasons of Get Smart. Don Adams, agent 86 drove a Sunbeam Tiger in the opening credits on the show. You have the red car that was used.
That empty bracket is where the oil filter was. It is for the windshield washer fluid container.
Wow, wish I had known about the adapter for my old MG Magnette. Nice job Steve.
Bless you. Nice to see you enjoying your passion. You deserve it. Keep smiling.
Never had the chance to have a Sunbeam Tiger, but did run a Sunbeam Alpine for years. A great fun ride.
Glad you changed the oil ! it looked a bit like road tar 😊
Back when I was young and skinny (many moons ago, lol) I had a 1967 Sunbeam Tiger with the 289 Hi-Pro V8 with 271 hp.
Man that car was quick! I really enjoyed owning it but had to sell it to get a "family car" when our daughter came along.
Yep, I'd do the same thing again but owing that car was a real trip.
Very nice car Steve. Thanks for the video.
Nice.
She must be a blast to toss around on some twisty country roads...
They’re a neat little car. A Norton Commando oil filter housing would fix that easily too, but that’s an excellent solution. I hope it gives you joy, with that V8 soundtrack!
I had a Sunbeam Alpine in the mid '70s. Wish I had a Tiger!
Did a lot of work on a 67. Just looking at it brings back memories.
I was in the Navy with a guy that had one of those back in 1968, we were in Sicily it was a little hot rod!
Lots of spare hose clips now 😊
Blesses and many thanks from Austria to Iowa!! 😎
Nice work Steve thank you
thank goodness something modern has become useful steve!
Nice video to learn from. Appriciate your attention to detail. 👌
The guy that owned the local hobby shop when I was young had a white Tiger that he drove from New Port Richey to Clearwater every day. He loved that car and kept it for a long time.
Bob Kotimaki, of House of Hobbies?
@@ovalhunter488 Yep. Bob was a great guy. I practically grew up in the House Of Hobbies.
@@ovalhunter488 Bob kept it until he got a BMW 2002tii. He had that untill he bought a Chevy Suburban. Should have stayed with the Tiger and BMW,they are both collectors items and worth a lot of money. Bob sold the Tiger to a customer,Dave Edgecomb.
Love these kinds of videos from you.
Before firing up the engine with a fresh "empty" oil filter, spin the engine over on the starter motor with the ignition off (or disconnect the power lead to the coil), until oil pressure is shown on the instrument panel oil gauge. This will fill the oil filter and better protect the bearings from friction loading under combustion from a dry startup.
Nice job! I forwarded the link to a buddy who's a diehard Tiger owner. Now to check out some of your other videos.... Carl, a former Alpine racer
very nice and nice camera trick at end of video.
That is a nice rust free find, good for you! Our 1965 Tiger is a real work in progress. Could you please forward me a part # or source for the oil filter adapter and what # filter you used? The WIX filter was made not far from me here in Lincoln Nebraska. Thank you.
you found the best solution for the oil filter no more leaks also keeps motor oil clean.
First was a 64 Alpine with the 4 cylinder, red with black interior and convertible top. Had original wire wheels with spin-offs.
My father had one in the late 60s. Nice cars! Fast cars😉
Love those tigers. Wish more were around. Getting pricey as hell. And parts aren't easy to find either.
I watched this in the afternoon, and I'm out in my town today and what do I see but a RHD doppleganger for your Tiger! This one was a 1965, though.
Always good to have one for preservation and one to flog the hell out of!!!
Good luck with the Tiger, but curious to know how you pulled off the overhead film at the end…
Had Early One 166 off assembly line , with 288 gears .
very nice.
Nice I have worked on one like this years ago !
Cool Car! Kind of the sleeper cobra. . . How did you do that driving video; a drone? very nice
lots of oil is going to flow through that hose😂
Thank you. Great video. Keep it going…
Good work.
Beautiful old car! How do you get the hover camera effect?
great stuff thanks
Any chance you have the part numbers for the filter and filter adapter?
Ah the perils of putting engines into engine bays that weren't designed for them!
I'm more anally retentive. I oil the filter threads too. Ford V8's are cool.
Longer videos please. Also what was the thread spec on the adaptor? Thanks.
My old eyes thought there was a snake wrapped around the air cleaner !
Nice!
Sorry...but the only Tiger I would want is the 67 model, with the more powerful 289. They are very pricey now!
It would be useful to show what oil grade and formulation you use for these cars, even if you repeat yourself.
I'm assuming a fairly thick mineral or semi-synthetic with added zinc ?
I too noticed he did not show the brand of oil he used. 🛢
Can you tell us what filter that is? I'm getting ready to do exactly what you just did on my Tiger. I have the adapter and ordered a Mobil 1 M1-204A that looks similar.
Cute!
Wow that is cool
How did you get those last 2 camera shots?
clean the block threads BEFORE you install the loctited adaptor
Any plans to do updates on the MGA? Maybe some service and tune up videos? That would be cool! thanks.
Yes new video coming soon.
Steve have you got any Delages’ ?
Hi Steve, Which brand or part number of the thread locker you used on the adapter (loctite or other?) Thanks..
Loctite, I like the sticks like that.
@@ThisWeekWithCars Thanks Steve..
I would give up both nuts for a Sunbeam Tiger like that.
I bet that car is very fun to drive.
Please some more your good
If you actually want to make the Tiger drivable, scrap the entire rear suspension and diff, and find the suspension snd diff from a Nissan 180. With a bit of fab, you can have a differential that has limited slip, and will actually stand up to the V8. The independent rear tanes the car and lets you actually use the power. My lap times dropped 5 seconds a lap when i did my swap. My particular Tiger has been a track car since the early 80s, so please put your torches away, no need to burn me a the stake. It was chopped and butchered LONG before i got it.
I guess another option would be a jag XJ rear, but the parts are bigger and wider, so it would require much more fab. But it would be more period correct i suppose.
I have all of the CAD files required to build the Nissan-Sunbeam conversion if anyone needs it.
Any ideas where I can get my Tiger restored near the Cleveland area? It's a Mk2 and I'm the 2nd owner.
I would take it out of state to a Tiger specialist if you have to. Someone who does not know what Tiger specific things they look for when STOA judging a Tiger is real or not could end in disaster.
How often would you need to change the oil if you had no filter? That is just crazy! I’d do everything I could to reduce the leaking and put up with the rest.
Cars didn’t even come standard with oil filters until the 60s so someone who owned this a long time ago might not even think anything of it.
aeroquip!
This looks like either a MK IV or V, I thought by the MK. IV they already went to a 289 c.i. in the Tigers. Am I wrong?
IV and V are Alpines this is a Mk 1A Tiger
@@ThisWeekWithCars I stand corrected. I meant to say the first Tigers had a 260 and I believe towards the end of the run there were a very few with a 289. (?)
@@robertcallahan4065 The Mark 2 Tigers in 1967 had 289, 200 hp Ford engines. About 600 were produced.
Just wondering, what kind of power the 265 makes ?
It's gotta be a blast to drive
I made a video about that and put it on the dyno: ua-cam.com/video/4NsE1-ImDXQ/v-deo.html
@@ThisWeekWithCars thankyou....I always wanted a sunbeam....I'm 6' 8" I sat in one when I was 12 y o ...it was close then ...I really enjoyed the dyno video...the 347 tiger is amazing.....I have a soft spot for the other tiger and the alpine....have fun with them...be safe..👍😊
A british car always leaks oil. Per definition. Even with a US engine 😂
wonder if ever driven by don adams
Nice mod
What was the horse power rating on that Tiger. Thanks for sharing.
I put it on the dyno in this video: ua-cam.com/video/4NsE1-ImDXQ/v-deo.html
@@ThisWeekWithCars Thanks , What a surprise.
The Ford 260 2V was rated at 164 BHP by the company. This engine was an option on Ford Falcon, Fairlane and Mercury Comet and Meteor models.
@@jeffreycler495 thank you
Fascinating as I find these you still need a baby and a dog to get your subscribers up😂. Such a clever solution to avoid no oil filter. I am assuming the Ford engine was original? I still want to know if you are a secret lottery winner as I can’t see how you make a living unless you deal cars. Never mind buying a brand new Defender! Keep these videos coming as one oldie in the UK looks forward to them
no oil filter? Bad idea
not good running a car without a filter --- might be the reason the oil looks grey
a small-block Ford will run forever
of course it's dripping oil. It's English, isn't it?
British metal and American muscle.
Pull that pan off and repair it as it will cause oil starvation.
Wearing your watch???
They ain't thst bright
We can tell you haven't done a lot of work on this car. The video clearly shows you still have most of the skin on your knuckles.
The Sunbeam used wooden structural members, making unrestored examples Way dangerous to drive!
Is this wood free car?
The only wood on a Sunbeam Tiger is the dashboard and steering wheel.
I liked the content but the host is stiff as rebar.
COOL