This Mod Makes Electric Conversions Redundant - MGB GT Duratec

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @jacobyoung1671
    @jacobyoung1671 Рік тому +199

    This was a great day and I'm glad you liked the car. Your observations about the steering were spot on and I've changed the springs and the geo since as a result. Feels a bit less "sketchy death wagon" more "oh a real car".

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому +25

      Thank for coming down Jacob, really enjoyed driving it!!

    • @reallynotpc
      @reallynotpc Рік тому +9

      Sounds as though you have achieved something really neat there. Well done!

    • @Lemma01
      @Lemma01 Рік тому +19

      Please can we ink "Sketchy Death Waggon"/SDK into the reviewing lexicon, Jack?

    • @reallynotpc
      @reallynotpc Рік тому +4

      @@Lemma01 Seconded!

    • @postbump4085
      @postbump4085 Рік тому +3

      Great job Jacob, thats inspiring me to do a similar upgrade to my B. was going to do the MX5 gearbox conversion, but may as well mate it to the right engine! Wilwood brakes are a good idea too :)

  • @bobmcl2406
    @bobmcl2406 Рік тому +92

    Nice to know that I am not the only person who tries to use Jedi mind control to influence decisions by other drivers! 😁

    • @ciaranburke3243
      @ciaranburke3243 Рік тому +8

      Like that I do it myself 😂

    • @christophernewman5027
      @christophernewman5027 Рік тому +11

      Yep, with a healthy dose of "Come on, come on" 😊

    • @hornetbrown
      @hornetbrown Рік тому +1

      I wish I had .30 caliber gun turret on my truck...that pushes the decision making to the other drivers.

  • @tonyflorio3269
    @tonyflorio3269 Рік тому +59

    My god, even through phone speakers that sounds amazing! Why can't modern cars reproduce this symphony of intake honk, exhaust bark and mechanical whirling? Love it!

    • @MrAdopado
      @MrAdopado Рік тому +5

      Because they have multiple systems designed to meet emissions requirements, efficiency requirements and noise requirements. So if you are happy to compromise on all of these and aren't too worried about the consequences this is what you can get.

    • @tonyflorio3269
      @tonyflorio3269 Рік тому +7

      @@MrAdopado I know -- drive-by noise regs in particular likely have a lot to do with how modern cars sound. The modern performance car approach (loud, popping exhaust and piped in sounds) doesn't do anything for me.

    • @sbrenx7132
      @sbrenx7132 Рік тому +2

      Because of governments

    • @garyallsopp6369
      @garyallsopp6369 Рік тому +5

      ​@@sbrenx7132No, because of a@%*holes overdoing it, p#*&ing people off enough to complain to the police, who've got enough to do without answering nuisance calls, so lobby for tighter restrictions.

    • @BodyDestruction
      @BodyDestruction Рік тому

      @@garyallsopp6369Not really, if anything it’s easier now to make a car louder with a simple map.
      Traffic noise and air pollution are health concerns. Adding particulate filters in the exhaust muffles the sound. A turbo (there’s nearly no new NA car on sale) goes on the exhaust, where it quietens it further.
      The loudest modern city traffic is a 50cc scooter.

  • @dougknight1720
    @dougknight1720 Рік тому +36

    Wow. Got to be one of the best budget upgrades I’ve seen. Definitely a worthwhile alternative.

  • @Yorgos56
    @Yorgos56 Рік тому +21

    Brilliant conversion. As someone planning an ev conversion i do have a couple of qualms with the figures used. that 30k+ figure is the price charged by high end shops that fully restore cars and use brand new overly expensive electric components (going off that 110hp figure). Many of these shops use stupidly expensive incredibly underpowered components.
    If you were to convert the car yourself using used components from a written off electric car, a budget of 5-7.5k is very reasonable. My own conversion I expect to cost approximately 5k and will provide me with a motor that is rated at 250hp but has been tested at up to a bit over 400hp.
    I'm going to do a little pros and cons list for doing the conversion featured in the video vs a diy electric conversion:
    Petrol pros- done by professionals (so no work required on your end), lower upfront cost, retain the sound, retain that manual gearbox, lighter car
    Petrol cons- petrol is only getting more expensive (~1k more expensive per year than electric at current rates), more points of failure, harder to maintain on your own
    Electric pros- lower lifetime cost (less maintenance + save ~1k on fuel per year), more horsepower in a lighter package, less points of failure, benefits of instant torque
    Electric cons- can't get work done by professionals, have to do significantly more research, can be a lengthy process, may potentially be heavier than before (mine will be heavier by ~200kg, from 1.3T to 1.5T), less range (mine will have approx 115 miles)
    TLDR: This petrol conversion is brilliant, will fulfill it's intended purpose, will be incredibly fun, with a low upfront cost, but in the long run doing an ev conversion will be cheaper and more powerful.
    so If you can sacrifice the sound of a combustion engine and the fun of driving a manual, an electric car will be more powerful and cheaper (in the long run)

    • @TheKaptainKernow
      @TheKaptainKernow Рік тому

      Have you gat a link to a parts list or supplier for the conversion bits you plan on using?

    • @Yorgos56
      @Yorgos56 Рік тому

      @@TheKaptainKernow my plan is to buy a written off Nissan leaf from copart + the inverter and transmission (which also acts as the motor) from a lexus gs300h. and them Frankenstein the components across.
      If you want some proper advice, from people significantly smarter and more experienced than me, make a post on the openinverter forum, or r/evconversions, or diyelectriccar.

    • @nickiemcnichols5397
      @nickiemcnichols5397 Рік тому +1

      The comparison is ridiculous. No ICE can compete with batteries.

    • @miff227
      @miff227 8 місяців тому

      some more cons: No garage is insured to have your vehicle in it, no roadside rescue firm should be towing it. You soon wont be able to legally park it within 50m of anyone elses vehicle, house or business especially with a battery from a "written off" vehicle that was likely written off as no repairer can be arsed with trying to get insured to have your vehicle within 50m of anything else on the site.

    • @max_coast
      @max_coast 5 місяців тому +1

      @@nickiemcnichols5397 Ah see, I'm converting a Nash Statesman to electric and doing it myself, doing it nice, lithium batteries of course, making it compatible with a few public charger varieties and I see the 30k price as entirely reasonable, not to mention the time to wire things up beautifully. Petrol engine swaps can be a pita, but a Duratec to an MX5 transmission is a well supported, documented swap into most old, 4 cylinder things. Plus, you can keep the limited space most of them have and you can stay under the limited GVWR such ancient sheet metal supports, leaving it all for passengers and 1 piece of luggage. Back when I did petrol car projects all the time there's ALWAYS someone saying 'this is as cheap as I did it' and I generally found it an unreasonable pissing contest with not grasp of reality. Doing it yourself, they can both be cheap if you're willing. Paying someone else, I think the petrol will be cheaper, gas spent and all for the amount most people drive a hobby car.

  • @andrewbuckley2892
    @andrewbuckley2892 Рік тому +11

    Two things... I run a daily driver MGB GT with a second hand 2ltr fully rebuilt engine, ( bought the car with the engine swapped it and resold the car). The engine with very few miles on it was...Iver Searle Power Plus 2000cc engine, reconditioned, lightened flywheel with new ring gear, electronically balanced crankshaft, flywheel and clutch assembly, conrods end to end balanced and pistons balanced.
    So it cost me a days work and a couple hundred pounds .... the resultant car pulls like a train , and is reasonably original.
    Also it has been said , at about 1500 miles use per year .... my car can be driven 46 years before it reaches the same amount of carbon as the production of a single new electric car. So how green am I !!

  • @wearetomorrowspast.5617
    @wearetomorrowspast.5617 Рік тому +37

    Always had a soft spot for the BGT.
    And this looks likes the way forward to be able to keep these beauties on the road for a while.
    Kudos to Jacob. Cool vid Jeff.

    • @jacobyoung1671
      @jacobyoung1671 Рік тому +4

      Thank you thank you sir.

    • @giuseppe4909
      @giuseppe4909 Рік тому

      Keeping them going is not a matter of power plants….it’s a matter of RUST

  • @markmcgrath9098
    @markmcgrath9098 Рік тому +8

    1:38 you nailed it right there with your comment about the sound.
    I used to be able tell what car was coming before I saw it by the sound. Engines sounded unique. Even the boring shopping trolley cars.

  • @RedLP5000S
    @RedLP5000S Рік тому +44

    Love that MGB. I'm so tired of seeing countless MX-5s. Those are a dime a dozen. The MGB has such classic lines and is immediately recognizable. Great job Jacob.

    • @petergraham9267
      @petergraham9267 Рік тому +5

      🥲about the MX5. They are a "dime a dozen" for very good reason, and even here, he's using the MX5 gear box and driver's seat! . That being said, I'own an MX5 now (hence my bias 😜) but have also owned an MGB, and that engine sound is epic!! I also LOVE this conversion rather than an EV 👍👍👍

    • @henrype4315
      @henrype4315 Рік тому

      Dime a dozen??? I’ll take three dozen. I only have four of them and need some more.

  • @LOTPOR0402
    @LOTPOR0402 Рік тому +64

    To hell with going electric. An MG B with a modern twin cam , finally caught up with the Italians only 45 years late

    • @robertwheeler993
      @robertwheeler993 Рік тому +4

      And with the MGA twin cam

    • @georgebettiol8338
      @georgebettiol8338 Рік тому +2

      @@robertwheeler993 The MGA twin cam engine was released in 1958, however due to various deficiencies which included fueling via the SUs it was not a successful engine and was (sadly) dropped after the manufacture of circa 2000 examples.

    • @adrianmonk4440
      @adrianmonk4440 Рік тому

      @LOTPOR //
      HILARIOUS.

    • @crmercer6407
      @crmercer6407 Рік тому +2

      The important thing is they're still here

    • @dreadlysmellybum
      @dreadlysmellybum Рік тому +1

      Yea, the Fiat twin cam…. How reliable.

  • @stumo114
    @stumo114 Рік тому +3

    I put a Vauxhall 2.0 red top in my MGB about 27 years ago, Lumenition throttle bodies, standalone ecu, custom ex manifold, stainless V8 rear exhaust, ford 5 speed box and quaife diff, I helped develop the Willwood 4pot disc brake conversion with Rally Design which worked brilliantly, in conjunction with cooper s cylinders on the rear with uprated shoes.. I also had the coilover front conversion which made getting the right spring rate fairly easy, together with a thicker front ARB, lowered rear springs with anti-tramp bars and spax shocks.

  • @rhettcorcoran2879
    @rhettcorcoran2879 Рік тому +18

    Excellent conversion, I ran an MGB GT for 13 years, I wish I had thought of this during my ownership.

  • @stephenricketts7764
    @stephenricketts7764 Рік тому +12

    I have always liked the MGB GT. I think this is a good budget conversion and I agree that an upgraded MG block would be more expensive. You could have put in a V8 but that might not be within the rules of the racing category. On the other hand if you are on a budget the V8 would not be a good choice. I think it sounds good which for me is part of the experience. Well done to Jacob and good luck with his continued work on the car. Thanks Jack for the video.👍👍

  • @cam3002
    @cam3002 Рік тому +30

    That is a good conversion. Been thinking of doing something similar. If using a third generation Miata drive train (NC Miata), it comes with the 2.0 engine, an easy torque upgrade that is a direct bolt-on the the transmission is to use either the 2.3 or 2.5 engines from the same family of Ford products that use the Duratec engine (e.g. modern Escort/Fusion).

    • @larry9580
      @larry9580 Рік тому +12

      I'd also use the rest of the Mazda - suspension, brakes, body .... oh, hold on.....

    • @mrdainase
      @mrdainase Рік тому +5

      @@larry9580 You would get the same amount of rust thrown in for free too!

    • @markjosephbudgieridgard
      @markjosephbudgieridgard Рік тому +2

      Wow awesome love it would be even better in my opinion if it was a 1960s sebring MGB roadster replica with the hardtop fitted... But credit to the guy what a great conversion a real wolf in sheep's clothing now you could have some real fun at the lights leaving some modern cars in your wake the drivers would think what the hell is going on 😂👍

    • @andrewcunningham9256
      @andrewcunningham9256 Рік тому

      Yup, endless tuning options too. Not dead yet? Time for a turbo!

  • @truthboomertruthbomber5125
    @truthboomertruthbomber5125 Рік тому +22

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with leaf springs in the back and a lot that is really right ! Having the right spring rate and the dampers to suit will provide excellent handling.
    As for the front end this car has a bit more negative camber than maybe is ideal for the street and also looks to have a good bit of toe out. This set up is ideal for the race track where you have a lot more slip angle than you are going to have on the street.

  • @malcolmlane-ley2044
    @malcolmlane-ley2044 Рік тому +11

    I bought an MGB GT as a project and it thankfully has the upgraded brakes and suspension already done which is a good stating point. I believe people can be a bit 'sniffy' about unusual engine transplants tin the MGB thus when you come to sell the car the resale price would be negatively impacted. The route I have investigated is the V8 from a Rover SD1along with it's 5 speed gearbox, this will give you about 170 hp but way more torque than the Duratec and has the benefit of not being so frowned upon as there was a factory version with a Rover V8 albeit with only 137 hp, I think the lazy power delivery and sound also suits the car better and it would likely be cheaper to do. It's a personal choice of course and as an alternative putting an R1 or Hayabusa lump in there would give a phenomenal power to weight ratio but not a very relaxed drive.

    • @johnwalker283
      @johnwalker283 Рік тому

      Yes,and twice the fuel consumption.

    • @johnwalker283
      @johnwalker283 Рік тому

      Yes,and twice the fuel consumption.

    • @68404
      @68404 Рік тому

      And twice the comments apparently@@johnwalker283

  • @richardjones7386
    @richardjones7386 Рік тому +3

    Hoyle Engineering sell an IRS that does away with leaf springs and allows for a bigger diff and rear disc brakes.. pick a Mazda power plant or BMW 2 litre and the recipe is a good one. Lots of fun to be had.

  • @richsackett3423
    @richsackett3423 Рік тому +13

    It's a really good noise. Sounds like a big 4-cyl bike. The exhaust is nice too.

    • @tedvga
      @tedvga Рік тому

      Imagine sitting in your garden on a beautiful summer evening, enjoying the sound of birds, like nightingales, then suddenly your peaceful tranquility is ripped apart by one of these (or almost any car) passing by? This is the age of annoying noise almost everywhere, mostly caused by combustion engines. We've all grown up with this and - without too much thinking about it - regard this as "normal" - however, it isn't... People are so accustomed to this that they even like the sounds of their cars and seemingly don't care to those around them... Go electric! You'd still have the sound of tires and wind, but that is a lot better than with combustion engines!

    • @MrAdopado
      @MrAdopado Рік тому +1

      @@tedvga Indeed ... I love a fast car but our weekends nowadays are ruined by noisy bikes and cars out to have some fun. We literally have to halt conversations (inside the house) because of the noise.

    • @54356776
      @54356776 Рік тому +3

      ​@@tedvga
      Most road noise is caused by tyres on the road, not engines. Electric cars are noisier because they are a lot heavier. Electric is also far worse for the environment than ice.
      Also nothing sounds better than a nice raspy engine. A triumph triple is heaven to my ears.

  • @Jonoponomono
    @Jonoponomono Рік тому +8

    I love it. There is nothing like the involvement of shifting gears and working with the engine and transmission. Like you said, the car has a soul. I have both electric and gas powered cars and as wonderful as the electric car is in so many ways, it is a cold mistress. My TVR, Caterham's and MX-5's have so much more grasp on my heart despite the fact they are nothing like as good as the Jaguar.

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 11 місяців тому

      2 ratios + say, 3 levels of energy recovery - effectively letting u change down several 'gears' approaching a bend and ability to shift up once during acceleration is both doable and desirable?

  • @bzilla-d4i
    @bzilla-d4i Рік тому +8

    Wow, now this is an excellent conversion. Props to the man

  • @bobmizen1
    @bobmizen1 Рік тому +16

    I've always loved the MGB GT and that was fantastic. The way it sounded, the power and the way it swept around 'Jacks Bend' was so smooth. Thanks again Jack for showing such a unique car. Regards, Bob M. South Wales

    • @mrdainase
      @mrdainase Рік тому +4

      I can see a comments war kicking off over who found that bit of road first - Jack or Harry!
      Obviously it doesn't matter, both have given us all some great videos over time.

    • @adrianmonk4440
      @adrianmonk4440 Рік тому

      @@mrdainase //
      Harry needs a
      pacemaker tune-up.

    • @bobmizen1
      @bobmizen1 Рік тому

      @@mrdainase Harry’s Road, Jack’s Bend 🤗😂

  • @rogerking7258
    @rogerking7258 Рік тому +1

    Two of us were driving back from a car show in my Frogeye last week when I mentioned to my mate that I was considering fitting a K-series engine, 5-speed gearbox and disc brakes to make the car more usable. We're both in Motorsport so this would be a DIY project. His reply was a classic - "But I thought you wanted a Frogeye."

  • @ajay-xjs
    @ajay-xjs Рік тому +4

    I really liked this episode, what a smart conversation. I read somewhere that Yamaha had a lot of input into Fords Duratec/Zetec engines so the carbs from an R1 make sense.

    • @adrianmonk4440
      @adrianmonk4440 Рік тому

      Yamaha also did the Tarus SHO engine for Ford. That is Special High Output or nickname was Shogan.

  • @charlesshamseldin9555
    @charlesshamseldin9555 Рік тому +6

    Here in the States, all Ford Focuses from 2005-2010 were gifted the lovely little Duratec 2.0L
    It is a wonderfully revvy little lump that sounds surprisingly good.
    I have one in my Focus, turbocharged with a GTX2871R, and a Cosworth intake.
    The car makes 260whp and is really really fun to drive.
    Keep up the great work Jack!!

    • @adrianmonk4440
      @adrianmonk4440 Рік тому +1

      NICE !

    • @jase6370
      @jase6370 Рік тому +2

      Love this !. Love to see more retro mods

    • @AaronHendu
      @AaronHendu Рік тому +1

      Chev's Ecotec is a decent motor, too, for swaps like this. Ford even had a supercharged version of it.

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 11 місяців тому

      dont both this and the 5 cly engine have fundamental design flaws that can cause total failure?

  • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
    @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 Рік тому +6

    Interesting. I've driven a couple of MGBs over the years, one very regularly, and in particular the steering has been heavy and ponderous, sapping most of the enjoyment. Good to hear it can be sorted.

  • @neilmarshment2910
    @neilmarshment2910 Рік тому +8

    Great review Jack. I agree, electric conversions remove the soul of a classic. Nothing like the sound an feel of a combustion engine - hearing a classic MGBT or Aston whirrrrrr is not the same.

  • @chriswilliams5498
    @chriswilliams5498 Рік тому +4

    I saw a clip of a Triumph stag being electrified. I lost all hope. The very essence of a Stag is the v8 burble. So electrify away. But some cars need to be left as they are.

  • @stanschloesser6725
    @stanschloesser6725 Рік тому +3

    Love to see your giddy reaction on the pulls. Good stuff.

  • @pbertelli1961
    @pbertelli1961 Рік тому +2

    There should be a law against doing electric conversions on classic cars like these, its just not British!
    A brilliant, informative and entertaing video, as always!

  • @Greebstreebling
    @Greebstreebling Рік тому +2

    We took our black MGB GT to northern Spain in 1982. Wherever we parked in a town, there'd be a crowd of folks gathered around it when we returned. They were iconic machines with a fairly gormless engine. I used to catch the Harwell bus from Abingdon in the early seventies and sat on the top deck so I could see into the MG factory yard as we drove past, I never had the money to buy one in those days.

    • @mrdainase
      @mrdainase Рік тому

      Probably the best description of the B Series engine ever!

  • @bernardwarr4187
    @bernardwarr4187 Рік тому +7

    Although not a big fan of the BGT’s I have always thought, with a good engine there is no reason why they can be a daily drive. It’s a practical car, easy to handle and hatchback for shopping

  • @johnireland1629
    @johnireland1629 Рік тому +3

    Always loved the lines of the MGB...and this engine transplant is a great bargain. Thanks for the ride.

  • @murrieteacher
    @murrieteacher Рік тому +3

    I constantly come up against MGB's at our local hillclimb (Mt Cotton) and they give me and my MGTF 160 race preped a good run. I have been tempted a few times but the B series engine always stopped me. I will have to rethink now what I should do. There are some really potent Honda engines around too. Thanks Jack another great video about cars that we can all afford and relate to.

    • @mrdainase
      @mrdainase Рік тому +1

      Bonnet height tends to rule out a good few alternatives. The Busso V6 or Vauxhall Y32SE engines would sound great while throwing you up the road.

  • @davdidit6
    @davdidit6 Рік тому

    Years ago here in the USA, a friend’s family had an MGB convertible. They let me drive it. My face hurt every time I drove it, from the huge smile I had. Great video. Also that MGB sounds lovely

  • @KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland
    @KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland Рік тому +3

    Haven't heard you smiling during a road-test for a long time. Well done! The Ford Ecotec engine is brilliant! But on the continent, a VAG 1.8Turbo is probably the more obvious choice.

  • @roystonvehicles9129
    @roystonvehicles9129 Рік тому +2

    People have always done engine swops, it's not an alternative to an electric conversion, it's an engine swop for increased performance, maybe economy, I'd have thought that at 5k you could tune a b series up pretty good, supercharger (?) good old reliable engine the B series, had loads, we used to go to France in a bgt, 38 mpg and could cruise at 90 (ish) in overdrive, you were very brave in flying around in something with, shall we say undeveloped suspension, can't see how double wishbone front suspension is antiquated. Great video tho, you look like you can drive a bit as well.

  • @MG-Driver
    @MG-Driver Рік тому +2

    I put the same engine in my GT back in 2011. Made a fun car a great car, so well done on the conversion. Looks a lot neater than what mine was too.

    • @jacobyoung1671
      @jacobyoung1671 Рік тому +1

      Hey! I have seen your videos before I did the engine swap in the video. Unless I'm mistaken you're the same guy who has the photo next to my school mates Ford T bird? With the r500 engine in the mgb gt?

    • @MG-Driver
      @MG-Driver Рік тому

      @@jacobyoung1671 that's the one

  • @coalhouse_walkerjnr4735
    @coalhouse_walkerjnr4735 Рік тому +1

    I drove a stock BGT 'banger' as my daily commuter for a couple of years during the mid-90s recession. It was way more fun than leaf springs and rear drums ought to have been. However, your grin when you drove this one says it all! Looks like it's going to be even more fun when the handling's sorted! All the best to Jacob! 👍👍

  • @tolrem
    @tolrem Рік тому +3

    When I was at school [in the Dark ages] they used to put Ford Cortina 1600 OHV engines in Morris Minors.Apparently it mated quite well to the existing gearbox if I recall correctly.I remember my dad [who was a mechanic by trade] saying that it was too much power for the Minor to handle!

    • @1240enzo
      @1240enzo Рік тому +4

      Fiat twincams mated to Fiat’s 5spd box was another way of updating the old Morrie.

    • @philtucker1224
      @philtucker1224 Рік тому

      Cortina engines were 1500.

  • @mrdainase
    @mrdainase Рік тому +6

    Rear axle location on a MGB is fairly decent, it's those horrid lever arm dampers in standard form that can ruin things. A firm front/softer rear setup is the general rule of thumb, which you can do just by changing the oil in the units (shocks is a better option though), and with decent new bushes all round they drive fine. Can't abide the B Series engine though, that damn lump of iron haunted the business for decades longer than it should.

    • @john1703
      @john1703 Рік тому

      After late 1964, with the five bearing crank, it was smoother, albeit still heavy. That engine also was fitted to the Austin/Morris 1800S.

    • @rjbiker66
      @rjbiker66 Рік тому

      Was there a parabolic leaf spring upgrade for the mgb?

    • @mrdainase
      @mrdainase Рік тому

      @@rjbiker66 Yes you can still get them, and there's also a multi-link rear setup available which from memory is a bolt-on job. If you don't have the cash then just taking the springs off, getting the surface rust off them, a good layer of Hammerite or Hard Hat and then a thin skim of oil/grease between the leaves will make a difference to them. Poly bushes are a good option as well but they do need a smear of copper grease to preventing squeaking.

    • @mrdainase
      @mrdainase Рік тому

      @@john1703 The B Series and the Landcrab were made for each other, a bad engine in a bad car.

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 Рік тому +4

    Let's be honest - never seen a BGT move off the line like that! Strange to say, a fair few Elise owners have ended up with the Duratec - it's capable of fairly high outputs.

  • @davyboy888
    @davyboy888 Рік тому +1

    The Duratec engine with MX5 box is a very popular transplant for Mk2 Ford Escorts and they're really great. Interesting to see this done on a B.

  • @eze8970
    @eze8970 Рік тому +3

    Great project car, & one far more in keeping with lower budgets. Thanks Jack! 🙏🙏

  • @marcusott2973
    @marcusott2973 Рік тому +2

    I once drove one of those Lotus Elan +2, with Spyder Chassis, Scorpio brakes, Z-tec on throttle bodies, the works.
    That was so close to being the perfect everyday classic, and I was so close to being able to afford it.
    😂😂😂

  • @black8art
    @black8art Рік тому +1

    Removing the old "B series" and putting the MUCH LIGHTER duratec in the engine bay, would improve the balance of the car no end! Having that MX-5 box to "stir", also loses weight, and adds SO MUCH FUN! Even if you decided to go "full leather" inside and all the "mod cons", like electric widows, air-con and posh seats, you'd never have a heavier car than stock! 1960's class, but with 2020's reliability and performance? ...NO BRAINER! (Not sure I could live without the old 1800 long stroke torque and "rasp" though? I wonder if there is a lighter, and maybe a racier version of the "B"? My old "Forza4" virtual car, was bored out to 2.0ltr and lightened and had a sport box and rear end, which made it a REAL weapon on the track!)

  • @brucelamberton8819
    @brucelamberton8819 Рік тому +7

    The only thing worse than modern electric cars are classics with an electric conversion.

    • @PorthLlwyd
      @PorthLlwyd Рік тому

      Fewer emissions though. Something has to change.

    • @colino72
      @colino72 Рік тому +1

      Depends how much you drive it, though. The motor itself has emissions - potentially more than those of the conventional ICE, and if you don’t do high miles it could be quite a while until it crosses over. Especially comparing an existing repurposed engine with a new electric motor

  • @raybob49
    @raybob49 Рік тому

    Never owned a B but have worked on several in years gone by. This is dynamic, a super conversion and "Why the Devil not?" Expertly reviewed and a good watch is why I am a subscriber.
    Electric is not for me, it has it's place but it will not do in the long run, in my opinion. Tell the B owner he has done well with his machine, I salute him and others who do similar.
    Over 30 years ago now I upgraded my Simca 1501 to Fiat 131 twin cam spec with all-Fiat drive train. Not the fastest but has been comedy on occassion.
    Many thanks and Best to All here.

  • @gazzafloss
    @gazzafloss Рік тому +1

    Good review Jack, and to the owner, Jacob, nice conversion, a classic to boot, well worth having.

  • @dennisnichols2411
    @dennisnichols2411 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for another great video! You have me wondering how a swap like this might work in my 1959 MGA coupe project. Even though they do differ in construction- the A being body-on-frame and the B a unitary- they share a great deal of bits, as the B had a lot of developed (and undeveloped) components from the A. Here in the States it's easy to get more than one version of Zetec/Duratec (or MXR) and and many MX-5 transmissions. Do keep us posted on his progress and feel free to give more particulars on the conversion as it goes along, please!

    • @jacobyoung1671
      @jacobyoung1671 Рік тому +1

      Hi there - a lot of people seem to use the mk1 mx5 engine and gearbox in the mgb and I've heard of people putting those in MGAs. No reason why this duratec wouldn't fit but I've not measured. Give it a go.

  • @nickvledder
    @nickvledder Рік тому +22

    A modern, real engine! Definitely better than electric.

  • @jassonsw
    @jassonsw Рік тому +1

    That's an absolute no brainer. 1/6 of the cost, better range, thousands of more places to re-fuel, way easier to get a mechanic to work on it in future and sounds great.

  • @theblackhand6485
    @theblackhand6485 Рік тому +1

    Seeing this MGB the tiny Honda 800 cc SS comes in mind. These had chain driven motorcycle engine with a long stroke.
    Would be nice if NR 27 could make a review about those Honda's.

  • @davidbeattie4294
    @davidbeattie4294 Рік тому

    I put 90,000 kms on a Yamaha FZ-1 (R1 in street clothes) and other than installing an Earls Performance jet kit I never touched the carbs. That carburator set-up is a great choice. I think the idea of putting a modern engine and transmission in the MG is a fantastic plan. The result is an elemental sports car with total reliability. Great project.

  • @ryanmccormick2150
    @ryanmccormick2150 Рік тому +9

    The MGB GT is a great looking car in my opinion, dropping a ford 2.0 engine into it is a fun idea.... Looks like a barral of laughs for not silly money 🤑.
    Cracking stuff as always Jack buddy 👌....oh almost forgot to say I'm all for internal combustion for as long as possible! Especially on toys like this MGB, the sound of the engine is a lot of the feel and fun in a car like that!

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому

      Thanks Ryan.. hope you’re enjoying yours!

  • @timsullivan3921
    @timsullivan3921 Рік тому +2

    Interesting engine choice. I have a MGB roadster and am installing a 3.5L Rover V8, which will make for interesting driving, as the rebuilt motor has 250bhp. Being alloy the V8 is a lighter engine than the standard 4 cylinder, which should improve the car's balance.

    • @davidgerrard8661
      @davidgerrard8661 Рік тому

      I have a 3.9 in mine. Changing the diff ratio is a must

    • @timsullivan3921
      @timsullivan3921 Рік тому

      @@davidgerrard8661 doing the maths 100% agree, I feel a 3.08 is too tall maybe a 3.3 as a 3.7 is not that much different to a 3.9. I also adding a Quaife LSD, Kpnis, Panhard and Tramp Rods to handle the extra power

  • @ronwalsh
    @ronwalsh Рік тому

    Looks to be a perfect conversion for my 65 MGB. The sound is really on point that is for sure.

  • @matthewjenkins1161
    @matthewjenkins1161 Рік тому +2

    Biggest cost of an EV conversion is usually the batteries, which are second hand to start with.
    10 years down the line if lucky and will need replacing again.
    A well built internal combustion engine used a few weeks each summer in a classic car, would last 50 years plus between rebuilds.

    • @AaronHendu
      @AaronHendu Рік тому

      Yep, I have nothing against electric powered vehicles, love them in fact, but if your toy sits for a large part of its ownership, batteries are not a good choice. At least with the current tech.

  • @SpiritintheSky.
    @SpiritintheSky. 10 місяців тому

    Once again I've come back to enjoy this fascinating video in the great "Number 27" series. Jacob's splendid work reminds me of my 1973 Roadster and the sort of performance the MGs should have graduated to, 11 years on from introduction. Then they would surely have held their own against the Datsun 240Z, a terrific car in its own right.
    By the way, KKM633L (in teal blue) seems to be still around, although the MGOC has no record of it at present. If its lucky owner is watching, I have a few momentoes to donate.

  • @dan3092
    @dan3092 Рік тому +1

    Resto Mod what's not to like a 4 wheel alignment Hunter session will sort the geo it sounds great good mpg and in reality a much smaller carbon print as it's recycling at the end of the day.

  • @garyallsopp6369
    @garyallsopp6369 Рік тому +4

    Nope, not for me - Ford engine in an MG! 😮 Me I'm looking for a accident damaged MG4 to transplant into my daughter's MGF (maybe even twin motor X-Power 😁). For me, most cars' souls are in their chassis - Every car I've ever driven, the engine has been some form of compromise. Sure, some cars are about the engine and you wouldn't want to touch them, but for most it's just the weak point. Then again for 5 years my daily was a Westfield SEi Wide, so maybe my perspective is skewed 😆 Each to their own I suppose, as long as it's reversible. Just spare me the armchair generic 4-cylinder jockeys who don't like EVs because a Nissan Leaf isn't as much fun as a TVR; neither of which they've ever driven. Great videos by the way - keep them coming!

  • @Laz_Arus
    @Laz_Arus Рік тому +2

    In my younger days, I owned a Datsun 2000 Sports, which was a natural alternative for the MGB. The former was a superior car in just about all metrics except the exhaust sound. I do miss the induction sound from a carburetor engine. Modern fuel induction engines, like the one in my ND MX5, just don't have the raw sounds from bygone days.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому +1

      Hello old chap!! Hope you’re doing well!

    • @Laz_Arus
      @Laz_Arus Рік тому +2

      @@Number27 Livin' the dream here downunder Jack. 👍 I just wish it was a little warmer. Currently reminds me of an English "summer" 😁

  • @1969triumph
    @1969triumph Рік тому

    I have been lucky enough to have driven a lot of MGB's including V8s & that one you drove seems to go better than most, at a fraction of the cost. Very Impressed.

  • @skydog7544
    @skydog7544 Рік тому +7

    Should also point out that with engine swaps you lose the MOT and tax exemption as well as historic vehicle status so have to pay the ULEZ charge

    • @ciaranburke3243
      @ciaranburke3243 Рік тому

      Another way to screw people 😡

    • @stephenboitoult8774
      @stephenboitoult8774 Рік тому +3

      This is NOT TRUE! So long as you keep the car within the DVLA's notoroius "8 point rule" you keep historic status, tax exemption and ULEZ exemption too. You can change the engine, gearbox and axles and still stay within the regs. You do still need to get it MOT'd, but I would and do on any standard classics I happen to own anyway, as well as the 2 restomods. It's not a high price to pay!

    • @veritasvincit2745
      @veritasvincit2745 Рік тому +2

      Disregard the ULEZ charge.
      Just don't pay like the television licence. Don't engage and don't enter into a contract by acknowledgement of it.

  • @alunprice8537
    @alunprice8537 Рік тому

    Just recomissioning one of there which has been sat for 15 years very good film as usual

  • @openhighwayproductions
    @openhighwayproductions Рік тому +8

    I am in 100% agreement that it is miles smarter to upgrade the powertrain to increase both power and reliability instead of batteries...

  • @Drakos99
    @Drakos99 8 місяців тому

    it's nice that you are reviewing home modified and therefore both more accessible and affordable and interesting cars to the likes of me, than very valuable classics and expensive modern cars.

  • @stephenboitoult8774
    @stephenboitoult8774 Рік тому

    I've read a lot of comments on here about the sound of this thing, one or two even thought it wasn't loud ENOUGH! Not saying I don't like the noise, I most certainly DO, but i'd like to make a couple of points.
    Firstly the car is pretty stripped out in the back so the body is gonna be like a drum inside making it louder than it probably WILL be when the trim and back seat is all refitted.
    Secondly, when I was young (in the 70s) cars were loud and good rock was even louder, I loved it in both forms. Now i'm older I see virtue in peace and quiet (Not electric quiet) I build cars like this and have 2 Dolomite type cars, both with Vauxhall powerplants. The first is a 2 door Toledo and is a stripped out, lowered, lightened, detrimmed, stiffened up, road legal track day car. It's very loud, harsh, bumpy on the local lanes and a whole lot of fun. But not so much fun sat on the motorway at a steady 80. Get out after 2 hours of that and it's not only your ears that are buzzing. And racing seats are HARD! The other car is a Dolomite Sprint and is the car i've labelled "the cruiser" It's still quick with 147bhp on tap, but it has an auto trans, is fully trimmed and has extra soundproofing, more compliant suspension, a posh modern stereo that does everything but change your nappies, electric windows, central locking and a towbar. This car was built to do the Club Triumph Round Britain Reliability Run where we drive from Hertfordshire to John o Groats, to Lands end, to Hertfordshire. IN 48 hours over an October weekend. Roughly 2200 miles. All done in aid of charity. It's comfortable enough and quiet enough to make this epic challenge fun! The Toledo could do it just as easily, but i'm not sure I could survive that!
    If you have a car like this B, it is, like my Sprint, a daily driver and you don't WANT to be deafened every time you start it up. Too MUCH noise gets old very quickly. And you REALLY don't want the neighbours moaning when you go off to work at 6am every morning.
    How much noise is too much is pretty subjective, But I WILL say from the exterior shots, this B sound the mutts nuts!

  • @daniellee9015
    @daniellee9015 Рік тому +4

    Absaloutly brilliant video jack ❤👍what a beautiful car brilliant

  • @colsjit
    @colsjit 10 місяців тому

    I have a 1981 MGB GT (yes you read that right, 1981, even though the factory closed in 1980!).
    After the factory in Abingdon CLOSED down in 1980, all the remaining MGB GT parts were shipped to British Leyland in South Africa as CKD (Completely Knocked Down), where only 200 was ever built from imported CKD kits.

  • @fredmacdonald9339
    @fredmacdonald9339 Рік тому +2

    i did the same with my first gen crx
    2.0 out of a newer accord and a rack of 34 mm mikunis off a kawasaki
    easily doubled the power and added 50 mph at least of top speed

  • @lewis72
    @lewis72 Рік тому +2

    Yokohama tyres great in the dry. Terrifyling in the wet, which is why we called them Yokodramas.

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool Рік тому +1

    What a great conversion. Terrific idea. Good man Jake.

  • @larryl.3068
    @larryl.3068 19 днів тому

    Great video! I wish I had seen this video before I spent the money rebuilding my 72 BGT engine and sourced an overdrive transmission.

  • @John-G
    @John-G Рік тому

    Fantastic conversion - ideal for the ULEZ on any pre 80's B, Spitfire or GT6, even a Triumph Vitesse which would be fun!

  • @007JHS
    @007JHS Рік тому +6

    Interesting engine set up... being a Ford Duratec I'm guessing it was fuel injected with a computer control... Interested to know how all the electronics and computer were ditched for carbies.... carbies!... just great.

    • @johnnygeorgopoulos4072
      @johnnygeorgopoulos4072 Рік тому +1

      Throttle bodies, not carbs....fuel injection.

    • @007JHS
      @007JHS Рік тому

      @@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 Equally great

  • @markalcock6031
    @markalcock6031 Рік тому

    that engine and gearbox combo looks like a lot of fun

  • @jamesh2515
    @jamesh2515 Рік тому

    Really Fantastic - great to see this authentic everyday content. Something different, involving and achievable for many.. Thanks

  • @maddhatter3564
    @maddhatter3564 Рік тому

    More power, better mileage , availability of parts. Genius. You make American gear heads proud.

  • @wildeleistengegend3955
    @wildeleistengegend3955 11 місяців тому

    Pininfarina's stylistic interventions are fundamental! Excellent car.

  • @maddhatter3564
    @maddhatter3564 Рік тому

    As an American I've long been curious about the manual Trans setup in Europe. ty for showing this in operation. Seems shift pattern and clutch location is same as U.S. Love the roar of the little monster.

  • @chrislaunders8283
    @chrislaunders8283 Рік тому

    My partner has a 1974 MG and I fitted an overdrive box and modern rear shockers, this transformed it, as for conversions years ago she had a 1994 1.8 turbo diesel Vauxhall Astra with the Isuzu engine, which seemed to me a brilliant engine to fit in the MG, fast, very economical and ultra reliable, but she wouldn't let me.

  • @johnsheppard7935
    @johnsheppard7935 Рік тому

    ...the smile on your face says it all, thanks Jack - certainly a conversion worth considering and considerably cheaper than Frontline's version.

  • @adrianmonk4440
    @adrianmonk4440 Рік тому

    Another fine segment of Modifications, B-stardizations, Hybridizations, AND BEASTS.

  • @popincourt8058
    @popincourt8058 Рік тому

    I had a 1972 B-GT with a Cologne V6 from a Capri, along with its four-speed gearbox. Fabulous car. Wish I had not sold it. Can’t even remember why I did…

  • @chrisnurczyk8239
    @chrisnurczyk8239 Рік тому

    Genius conversion - Brit classic that now has a reliable engine, doesn't leak oil all over your driveway, and will run in the wet (no more Lucas Prince of Darkness). You can even find parts for it. Reminds me of the 60's when Bizzarrini built his beautiful cars to compete w/Ferrari, and put Chevy V-8's in them. Bizzarrini's always started & ran, lotsa power, and didn't spend every other week in the shop like the Ferraris did - and were much more affordable.

  • @bobmcl2406
    @bobmcl2406 Рік тому +6

    Very nice restomod conversion. Thise engines are very robust. I think I might have just used the stock EFI with the Duratec, though. It would have made things simpler.

    • @jacobyoung1671
      @jacobyoung1671 Рік тому +2

      Thanks very much. You can get bike throttle bodies which are efi that are only a few hundred more than the carbs I went with. I completely agree with you: in fact it's just about the only regret I have on this conversion. Will upgrade in future.

  • @mikev.5845
    @mikev.5845 Рік тому

    Oh the sound! And that open road. If my afterlife were driving that thing (or the influenzo) and never arriving anywhere that would be heaven 😊

  • @jehl1963
    @jehl1963 Рік тому +2

    This conversion is also "Greener" than an electric conversion since the carbon impact of a used engine and gearbox is 0 tons of carbon per year, unlike a new electric motor and a new set of batteries.

    • @tedvga
      @tedvga Рік тому

      Aren't you forgetting something? E.g. the carbon impact of burning fuel and its production process?

    • @jehl1963
      @jehl1963 Рік тому +1

      @tedvga Not really. It's well documented that electric cars don't pay-off (carbon wise) until ~100k miles have been put on the vehicle. A conversion is no different than a new car in that regard.

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 Рік тому +3

    Brilliant and accessible conversion.
    The words "enthusiast" and "electric" CANNOT be used in the same sentence.

  • @Dreddingbath
    @Dreddingbath Рік тому

    Superb... i can feel a new series coming on...

  • @stijnvandamme76
    @stijnvandamme76 Рік тому +1

    Except in many countries engine replacement with more power is banned, or requires individual re-homologation, and the process is ridiculously expensive and convoluted, at least in Belgium it is

    • @peterduxbury927
      @peterduxbury927 Рік тому

      I am certain that the Insurance would be invalid, unless you go through the Declaration Process. The whole car has a much higher performance now. If we do anything like that here in Australia, the car must pass severe inspection before it can be road-registered. This could be a downside.

  • @TalkieToaster.
    @TalkieToaster. Рік тому

    That's brilliant.
    A neighbours son is selling a Vauxhall Chevette with MX-5 running gear for around 5k, very tempting! Can't beat breathing new life into the classics, they have so much character.

  • @peterh4761
    @peterh4761 Рік тому +1

    Again, it will need an MOT forever as it classes as significantly modified. Something to consider as there are issues with non period engined cars registered as historic.

  • @colinscutt5104
    @colinscutt5104 Рік тому

    love the traditional jump leads in the back

  • @giuseppe4909
    @giuseppe4909 Рік тому

    Pontiac Soltice supercharged with 6 speed. Modern electrics with breakers, new loom, etc…and thorough de-rusting.

  • @ianmcass
    @ianmcass 7 місяців тому

    I put a 3ltr Vauxhall V6 in mine with a rear axle from an MG RV8. It goes quite well :)

  • @bugattieb110ss
    @bugattieb110ss Рік тому

    NC MX5 engine and box. There's a company here in the UK doing these conversions Frontline Developments iirc. However, like most restomod outfits, they are ridiculously expensive. It's far cheaper (and more satisfying) to do it yourself.

  • @adrianmonk4440
    @adrianmonk4440 Рік тому +1

    People are criticising the level of the car. If the guy is at University, that's amazing. I was So Broke in school.

  • @herenow2895
    @herenow2895 Рік тому

    Nice bit of road there, alongside Cornbury park. Especially that nice S.

  • @colingregson8653
    @colingregson8653 Рік тому

    Nice sound for a GT. I personally have a TreVoR which goes like stink and sounds like Thunder !!. Love it !!