SWTOR 2020 First Impressions "Is It Worth Playing?"
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2020
- First Impressions Of The MMORPG SWTOR - Star Wars The Old Republic In 2020
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Star Wars The Old Republic is a free to play MMORPG that's best enjoyed with an "Optional Subscription" and was initially released in December 2011, Since then the game has had 7 notable expansions with the latest being Onslaught in which the max level is 75.
As of making this video you might have heard about more people checking out this MMO as It's recently came to Steam and is enjoying a healthy population boost as a result of that as well as very positive reviews.
Content in SWTOR consists of 8 to 16 player raids, 4 player dungeons, solo dungeons, 8v8 PVP, Arena PVP, Dogfight PVP, Player Housing and most importantly It's multiple choice story driven campaign for which the game is best known for.
What do you think about Star Wars The Old Republic / SWTOR? Is this Sci Fi MMORPG Worth Revisiting in 2020 or trying for the first time? Do you think the population boost from Steam will last? let me know in the comments below!
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--SWTOR Steam Description--
ABOUT THIS GAME
STAR WARS™: The Old Republic™ is the only massively multiplayer online game with a Free-to-Play option that puts you at the center of your own story-driven STAR WARS™ saga. Play as a Jedi, a Sith, a Bounty Hunter, or as one of many other iconic Star Wars roles and explore the galaxy far, far away over three thousand years before the classic films. With 5 narrative expansions, become the hero of your own STAR WARS adventure as you choose your path down the Light or Dark side of the Force™.
Create your legacy.
Make meaningful choices throughout your journey and become the hero of your personal STAR WARS saga. The game includes an interactive storyline with cinematic dialogue and full voiceover for all in-game characters.
A growing world awaits.
For more than 8 years, players have been able to live out their own Star Wars stories. With the most recent Onslaught expansion, STAR WARS™: The Old Republic™ continues to deliver ongoing content through regular updates.
8 playable classes.
Do you prefer the elegance of a lightsaber or the reliability of a good blaster by your side? Choose from one of 8 iconic roles and make your mark on the galaxy! Each class has a unique storyline, allowing you to create your own personal STAR WARS story.
Explore numerous planets.
Hoth, Tatooine, Alderaan, and over 20 other unique and vibrant planets offer exciting exploration and thrilling adventures around every corner!
Multiplayer gameplay.
Gather your allies to face challenging encounters against enemy bosses in Flashpoints and Operations, or battle against other players in Player vs. Player Warzones, Arenas, or Galactic Starfighter missions!
Galactic Strongholds
Want to take a break from the inter-galactic traveling and adventure? Kick back and relax with our player housing system called Galactic Strongholds! Whether it’s overlooking the sandy dunes of Tatooine, the bright cityscape of Nar Shaddaa, or the tranquil mountains of Alderaan, there’s a Stronghold for everyone. These destinations and more are available for your galactic homestead!
Cartel Market.
Only the slickest items can make their way to the Cartel Market, the premium marketplace for the galaxy’s most sought-after commodities. Players wishing to buy things here will need to purchase in-game currency called Cartel Coins. Learn more about what Cartel Coins can unlock on our Cartel Coins Page.
Subscriber Benefits.
STAR WARS™: The Old Republic™ offers an optional subscription that allows you to experience even more of the STAR WARS universe. Benefits include an increased level cap of 75 and access to the most recent expansions: Onslaught, Knights of the Eternal Throne, and Knights of the Fallen Empire. In addition, you will receive a monthly Cartel Coin Grant, increased XP, and more. Details on Subscriber Benefits can be found on our Subscriber Page.
--Tags--
Star Wars The Old Republic, SWTOR, Sci Fi MMORPG, MMO, Tab Targeting Gameplay, Transmog, Player Housing, Operations, Raids, PVP, Battlegrounds, Classes, 2020, Onslaught, Republic, Sith Empire, Level 75, Levelling, Questing, Story, Choices, Story Driven, Traditional MMO, Aliens,
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SWTOR 2020 First Impressions "Is It Worth Playing?"
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For the people yelling at me about the story, here's a few things to consider - typically story driven cut scene heavy MMOs are not my thing, I'd rather play a single player game for this, For me the real story in MMOs comes from the interactions between players hence why I'm more into sandbox MMOs than themepark MMOs, additionally if I'm making a SWTOR 2020 video why would I play the content from 2011 and not the newer stuff? You've also gotta consider how the hell I would edit down a video of reacting to the levelling from 1-75 and give a full context of the story in my first impressions format without the video being 3-4 hours long, MMOs like this that are super cut scene heavy are really hard to cover with my format so really I just tried to focus on gameplay and features, I hope that makes sense.
In my opinion, you don't have to explain your presentation of the game, it's an impression after all - you made the material as great as ever! cheers ps. sorry for my bad english
Nobody is yelling at you, but to present/test this game with a payed subscription and lvl 70 endgame character is really not that good of a choice for SWTOR, since the normal player will likely be a f2p goon restricted by a huge paywall and braindead-super-easy-combat until lvl 65 or so.
For a first time play I don’t think that boosting a character and skipping your characters class story was the right thing to do. The leveling is what the game is mainly known for. The argument based on “why would I play the old stuff” isn’t necessarily valid. The new content is tied to the story content which requires you to level to understand what’s going on. Another thing, the operations are 99% of the time grouped up manually in the fleet (hub) chat no one uses the group finder except for flashpoints (dungeons) for a impressions video you did not have to go 1-75 you could of tried out a class and queued for the first dungeon which is available after the beginner planet. I don’t think a impression video specifically has to go over the entire games content. I have played swtor since 2014 and have done a majority of the raids and the end game content isn’t really anything to brag about it’s really just doing dailies/weeklys and if you want to you can do the raids for the experience. The games “transmog” system is one of the best in any MMO. You have the ability to put on any set of armor you come upon in the customization tab and you don’t need to go to some stupid transmog vendor to do so. You also have the ability to unlock cartel outfits and weapons for all characters through spending cartel coins. So you can use the same outfits on all characters. Player housing is also a major thing I can’t tell you how many hours I put into my stronghold. The game is seriously a joy to play. But it is a story game first which I why I understand you wanting to level boost but I still would not recommended that decision to newbies.
Jefferson no way you typed all of this lol. He said it himself that a new player should play the base game. It makes perfect sense that he wouldn’t do a “first impressions 2020” video and play content from 2011 lol
Cenciqt Cenciqt The game has not had a real substantial update since 2016 all the new content is just addons to the story. The new dungeons and raids aren’t groundbreaking new content has the same formula since their beginnings in the game. A 2020 first impression would be the same as a 2016 first impression. I’m saying that the way he showed off the game does not look pleasant for someone who has never seen the game before.
Honestly, I never played this game as an MMO. Most of my enjoyment was playing through the various class stories and dlc story content.
Same. Love the stories
Indeed the best part of the game is playing through the stories.
Me and my friend have played it as an RP simulator for years. Great fun.
And people like you are why this game will never be the MMO it's supposed to and remain the worst example of "games as a service" on the market.
@NPC000139582 Chesney Yes because reading words on a page is more fun than doing action-packed quests with lots of new scenery and lots of combat.. yeah I'd rather read a book and just imagine what is happening.. you're an idiot bud
"Imagine not playing a class with lightsabers"
Me playing as a bounty hunter 👁👄👁
@Mr. Al Sniper was pretty damn fun.
Bounty Hunter was my first class story that I finished about two years ago. Reinstalled the Steam version and am playing the game again. Grey DeLisle did a GREAT job for the female bounty hunter, my favorite voice acting so far even as I finish my other class stories.
@Mr. Al Am the only one who loves KOTFE? Saying as a scondrel.
BH and the Agent stories are really fun :)
Commando here. Wouldn't have it any other way!
"I subscribed to get access to all the classes because otherwise you're very limited in selection." For anyone out there looking at this game from a F2P aspect, I just want to point out that this is completely false. You have access to every class, unrestricted as a F2P player.
Thanks, that's actually super helpful- Im considering installing the game to try it out :)
@@quinnasher9743 The only thing you are locked out of is doing expansions (though this is fixed if you sub to the game just once and then you will become a "preferred" player, retaining all the benefits of expansion content).
@@fatpotato190 then why Keep subbing
@@blumer9615 to create new characters after your limited to 16, to be able to use all your credits and not be capped at 1million, to have access to unlimited pvp and flashpoint, to access end game gear. There are quite a few reasons to sub actually
He probably meant races and yes you are very restricted as free to play, its more like a trial, people dont go in there expecting that this is free.
Honestly never played one of these games before. I was desperately bored, so two days ago I decided to use my laptop for things other than writing.... obviously I mean using it for gaming. And I got a steam account, and was browsing. Until I found this game, saw the golden word “free” and downloaded.
To be honest, probably the best experience I have had playing a Star Wars game. I never liked these types of games, and for the past two days I have been enjoying what this game has to offer. Not to mention it’s set in my favorite era, Age of Republic. The cinematic scenes are awesome, and I just love the Republic setting. It’s a game worth playing!
edit: Well... another good thing about this game for a new player is how welcoming the community is.. I just had a player gift me 250,000 credits and hopes I continue to play and enjoy the game. Everyone in the general chat are extremely helpful and will help you with quests, even if they are a higher level.
Edit: I have yet to finish a story arc. But I have come across multiple revelations that’s have changed my experience for the better! I now have discovered the graphics setting, and as someone knew to PC gaming. I don’t know much about how computers work. But whatever is in charge of graphics, my expensive laptop was a fat man after a short jog when I turned the graphics on to ultra. So now I’m at a medium graphics level which has elevated the beauty of the game to a great degree.
Another great thing I found was the legacy section. It’s cool to have overarching stories! What I dislike is that characters in my other stories now share the name. The only reason I find this cool though is that I’m trying to developer a deeper story for each character I make. So I decided to make a brother and sister. One is a Jedi and the other a Sith. And I heard you could create family trees, so I hope the legacy is what that is. Other than those two things, the game has only continued to blow my socks off.
+Excubi. Tip, save your cash for a huge mount via the player store. As long as you dont want a Rankor. You can get similar large mounts for much cheaper prices. You just need to find out their names and search for them. Which you do via Star Wars wiki.
You should try Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy if you like Star Wars. The world record dudes would finish both in 1 hour but if it's your first ever playthrough it should take you a couple of days at least. Maybe even some guides if you get stuck with no clue of how to progress. Jedi fallen order was ok too.
The community is absolute gold, even on the larger, more mainstream servers...
@Testigos de Kojima care to elaborate a bit?
Star Wars Galaxies is free via swgemu servers. It’s a bit dated but...
Note: Once you subscribe for even just a single month (even after your subscription ends) you'll gain access to all of extra story brought on by all the available expansions.
are you saying if i pay 15$ to sub for one month then never sub again, i will own the expansions? and all the content that comes with them?
@@Splifyznuts Yes
@@seraphimihpares then whats the benefit of paying subscription after first month?
What's the point of subscribing again then?
Lance Lionroar free cartel market points xp boost and more char slots
Like some people said, Its really rare for operation finder to pop. You need to form the ops in chat (usually in fleet chat or endgame), its not because people dont do ops or lack of it.
he queued for a ”story” op? does that matter? instead of qing for veteran?
Yup you right...Operations normally get formed in Fleet HQ on the weekly resets... there is easy mode Operations then there is Hardmode...Guilds usually do the "hardmode" operations and then everyone just does the weekly easy mode from Fleet HQ...not played in months but usually weekly Operations rewards reset on Wed.
Gustav operation finder are only for story, if you want veteran/master you need to form it outside and walk to the ops entrance manually.
You should join a guild is you want to do OPs
every single light saber character I have looks like darth revan lmao
Possibly one of the best MMOs i've ever played. It's the first MMO i've ever leveled a character from 1 to max. The story/questing alone is a great reason to play this as it's detailed and each class you play has it's own questline.
I’ve been playing swtor since alpha, as I was a lucky 12 year old who got into the testing early on. I still play on and off to this day - no regrets I love it. Holds a special place in my heart
“I’m not to sure what the extent of this game’s transmog system is like”
Buddy, that’s _all_ I do
*[TOR Fashion and Swtorista join the chat]*
It's best Role play game/ transmog system with various things to choose
Spacebarbie is the endgame
Wait is there Weapon outfit slots yet?
@@stevenpohl8662 currently, no
However in the last dev stream they did mention it as a goal, but the coding is probably different which is why it has yet to be put in place
Mostly agree with this assessment, just want to reiterate a couple things as others have:
-No one queues operations; they are raid content, have a higher difficulty curve and higher time commitment and as such it's not well suited for PUG play, so the culture has evolved to people setting runs up the old fashioned way by literally calling it out in chat in the main social hub (republic/imperial fleet)
-Flashpoints were revamped at some point to allow for any combination of classes; to compensate they added things like healing stations especially in the boss areas. You just have to be aware of where they are and how many uses they have left. I also recommend knowing how your abilities work as all classes have abilities to make them more survivable and you will want to actually know how to use those in group content, JUST SAYIN. This is a lesson that SWTOR teaches early on (and something you will miss learning if you level boost without having played through early game): solo story content is considerably easier than group content, you can't approach them the same way
-Heals in pvp: bruh. They exist, but why would the healer bother wasting cooldowns on the dps jedi that keeps trying to tank the whole team. >.> (that's just me being a salty healer, not so much a criticism of the video, which was largely solid and accurate, good job overall.)
@Naveen KV np, glad it helped!
This guy's completely correct in everything he said. Only thing i'd like to add is he didn't get any heals in that pvp match because there weren't any healers on his team. Normally, you get at least 1 healer on your team, but its not guaranteed. Healer's aren't necessary to win matches either.
That comment should be read by everyone watching the vid
This comment Should be the video lol
Some of my favorite encounters with meeting new people was PUGing raids. Sure, the odds of failure were high in PUGs but through getting to know people and doing well, you could get pulled into doing a traditional and organized run. I lent my Assassin Tank to some Guilds for Sunday Raid runs HM and Nightmare, we met purely through PUGing and they liked how I played my tank.
So you can't honestly tell me PUGing is all nothing but bad. That's just opinionated and bias vitriol.
Originally got this game for my father for father's day way back when it was buy to play. He and I played this pretty much daily for about 6 years. Ended up joining a guild and meeting the love of my life back in 2018. I have nothing but fond memories from this game and I will cherish it forever. I really hope this new steam player base gets the game the attention and funding that it needs to become greater.
One month of playing with your father, is more time than I've spent with my father in my _entire_ life. You don't know how lucky you are...
Just as a side note you can totally find groups for operations, groups usually form on the fleet and then queue for the group finder bonus
Yes it is better to do this. New Player dont now that the listing is bad
He didn't know and any new players wouldn't either, it's all first impression based which is mixed opinion from a new player perspective :P
@@ShadowedEyedClan a simple question on general chat would've been enough though.
@@Arauto_Kagnos yeah but you shouldnt have to
@@matthewreid4748 if you want to know how the endgame community works and does things, yes you absolutely should.
damn, you skipped the whole story when you went into the character expansion creation, it's like watching season 11 of a tv show without even knowing what the show is about
You'll be okay
Lore is needed to play an MMO? Please.
Jesus, imagine watching season 8 of game of thrones without watching the rest first lol
@@zipzap8937 this is number 1 story based mmorpg... swtor is all about the stories. "Please."
Zetlin normally no. but for swtor it’s like 50% of the game
I definitely play this game as de-facto single player for the story. I LOVE the interactive cutscenes. You get to play a character rather than just a combat role.
"I haven't read any of my abilities, I'm just mashing cooldowns"
Later
"TTK seems a bit high..."
Wait until he plays Spirit of Vengeance lol, TTK been getting worse and worse even if you know your combos
I'm so excited you made this video! The questing and voice acting in this game are absolutely amazing. Keep up the great content :)
Tinyyyyy never thought I would found you here, cheers 💙
@@serenegrace2515 I love these videos :) Cheers!
My man!
Lol hey buddy
OOOOooooo
Pay one time sub, about 10€. Totally worth it for all the dlc story. Great singleplayer game.
What do you lose after one month if you don't subscribe again?
@@Lance_Lionroar You get a bit better tier f2p. There should be list on official site. You keep all the dlc etc. forever.
I truly believe that swtor has one of the best free to play models out there second to maybe runescape. Sure there are things you need to be subbed for but f2p allows you to play to level 60 and do all of the class stories. from a story perspective, that’s like 8 really well written single player games completely free, with the ability to play with friends and all of that. I’m not going to say the game is perfect, but I think the f2p is FAR less restrictive than this video makes it out to be.
I love the game but the f2p is pretty bad at times. Every time I leveled up I would get a loot box that contained loot I couldn't even use because I didn't own an expansion :/
@@hamavery6476 you literally need to pay for one thing in this game and you get expansions unlocked. $5 comestics or a month sub for ALL expansions forever you cheapskate
I love this game for the story, choices and making a badass character.
One of the best MMORPGs, still playing
That is not an accomplishment by any means
"One of the best MMORPGs, still playing"
Depending on your taste, maybe. Not according to mine.
Yup pretty much.
@@invinoveritas5244 Nobody cares, he can state his opinion if he wants to.
@@Revanchist I never claimed otherwise, so breathe a little.
Besides, I did neither more nor less than to give my opinion too, I did not attack him. So relax ...
If you are new to this I'd recommend the Imperial Agent, probably the best class story in the game.
I still don't understand some of the plots tbh, went right above my head lol
100% this.
I liked bounty hunter but that's probably because it was my first. It felt compelling with the backstory. The sith true path felt like I was actually playing to my character as well.
Jedi felt too wishy-washy for me but the first time I did the rock throw power was enough to make me want to finish.. it was just that good of a design choice lol.
Best class story in the game is Light Side Sith Warrior. ^^ But Agent is a close 2nd. ;)
Absolutely the best. The ending of the original game still gets me.
I just got this game and im blown away. The graphics and sheer scale of the game are stunning. Highly recommend it.
I agree with pretty much everything except for the operations part. As others have said nobody queues solo for operations and groups are usually put together either in guilds or in general chat on the fleet. There is also a good reason for this and i have not seen it mentioned in other comments. You can only queue for story mode operations and for those you do not need a standard 2 tanks 2 healers and 4 dps group. The second tank is always replaced with another dps with taunt (since they can queue as tank as well) because there are too few encounters where a second tank is needed and having 5 dps makes the operations faster.
Also flashpoints only require the trinity on higher difficulties. Although some of the newer ones are a bit of a spike in difficulty even on story mode when compared with the old ones so i can see how a group of newer players may have a hard time.
I like to think of SWTOR as a multiplayer RPG. Whenever I feel the itch to play it, it's for the storylines and Star Wars feel. I also know I'm not going to stay for long so I don't bother looking for a guild or worrying about faction rep, raids, etc. Always pay the monthly sub fee.
Started playing this game and restarted playing EVE online recently, feel like 24 hrs is not enough for a day xD
Bro if you're in WWB2 trust me you'll have 0 time for anything other than pings. Might as well quit your job.
Playing since febuary 2013. Probably the best years of my gaming life while school back in the days. I will never forget this
The problem is when you make a video titled "Is it worth playing" and proceed to skip 90% of the game, it comes across as you trying to get your video out as quickly as possible to get that sweet revenue.
Honestly....doing the level boost was kinda a bad choice. You literally don't have any context for the story.
He did the same on FF14 and got wrecked from the community, he deleted the vid.
hes just reviewing it overall as to how it holds up. not doing an indepth review for the story.
@@Riftweaver1981 Well, yes, but story is literally the main part of this MMO lol. It just seems silly to refuse to start at what a new player would see.
Yea i agree. But is Peon he did same with FF14
He did make another review on this game years ago where he went through a lot of the base story to be fair, but still. Doesn't seem like he has the patience for stories, always just wants to PVP.
the thing is @thelazypeon flashpoints arent designed around having a trinity, its tuned to be able to be done with 3 dps, although some of them are pretty hard to do with 3 dps you could've just gotten bad luck. For operations nobody queues for them you find the groups going in chat and you have to form a full group and people queue up to get the bonuses from lfg instead of just waiting for a queue to pop like WoW does.
Exactly, and most of the time, it's just people spamming in the fleet chat or on the capital planet (Coruscant or Dromund Kaas)
yeah they ruined that too. they deleted the holy trinity from the game. dungeons can even be made with fewer players and use companions
There are master level flashpoints and dungeons that still use trinity aren't there?
@@martinivanov1319 There are the veteran level dungeons still iirc, that need a tank, healer, 2dps setup.
And yeah, the operations never worked with random group finder, because the randoms that popped up there were terrible players, with no sense for the game. We always found players in chat, who were at least somewhat familiar with the operation, or are smart enough to follow the simple rule of "don't stand in colored circles!"
@@vodkavecz Story- and Veteran Mode Flashpoints don't require the holy trinity. Although it is possible you'll be kicked instantly from the group, if you're not a healer in certain Veteran Mode FPs. Only Master Mode Flashpoints require the holy trinity.
I started playing this week and Im loving this game, is one of the best mmos Ive played!
@@Cunningcreeper Yes please! I just started playing too - absolutely loving it!
@@Cunningcreeper Haha! The way you phrased it made it seem like you were trying to be generous and kind. I do not want to buy anything from you. I'd rather support the actual developers if I was going to spend money.
@Steven B aye man I was strapped for cash and I had 4 of them 😂 sold em on eBay for $72
“This guys entire head looks like a ballsack” I died lmao
Promptly remembers....
"Sir, we are clones. We are meant to be dispensable."
"Not to me."
I play this right now! and It's even better then I remembered somewhere in 2013
Same
This game is really underrated
I absolutely loved the class stories, and I replay the game every now and then just to re-experience the story of the inquisitor (my personal favourite). I liked all the stories but I don't feel like doing the trooper story ever again.
It also bugged me that the Knights DLC's felt extremely focused on having a force sensitive player character. I mained an operative when it came out and I just felt really out of place most of the time.
You're a G for doing this video my dude. Thanks man, I was just saying this game needs way more exposure
I love this game, play it daily it’s fun, btw slot machine are an event for cosmetic items and mounts nothing pay to win, also ops u need to go on general chat in the fleet to find anything as they are a premade group and just don’t queue the ops group on the finder
I'd recomend playing from the start or read through some of the in game guide tabs. It will explain most if not all things that you found confusing. Also there is a transmog system. If you want a more in depth preview of the game I'd recomend checking Swtorista. She has great content and will give you an honest opinion of what the game has to offer. Also there are 3 different levels, free 2 play, preferred, and subscriber. I usually love your content but I felt this to be not accurate nor realistic to the actual state of the game.
Great editing! :D cool video. I played this at launch - was part of world first guild. Fun to see how it has progressed. I wrote guides on the Trooper - Commando back in the day.
So as has been said in the comments operations (raids) are not done by the group finder. You'll want to go to the fleet and you'll see in chat many groups forming ops, or there are special chat channels to form ops, the main one on starforge can be joined by typing /cjoin allies. Whenever you get a quest to do a flashpoint (dungeon) I highly recommend getting the veteran version of the quest so you can do it with a party as its much more fun than solo. Yes you can get matched with 4 dps or any combination of roles but the flashpoints have kolto stations around the boss fights that allow you to emergency heal during battle and those are what will get you through to the end. There is a full transmog system. Lastly you can level up and gear however you like in this game, the core ways are through the main story quest (you can skip sidequests), spamming flashpoints, or warzones (battlegrounds).
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I just wanted to clarify a few things. At the beginning, you said "you're limited as a free player" in terms of classes and races. I'd just like to point out that you're not limited to any of the classes as a f2p player. Any f2p player can finish all the classes on both Republic and Sith sides. Races though, yeah you're definitely limited, but even as a subscriber (p2p player) you have to pay to unlock certain races sooo...
Also, if you pay to be a subscriber for one month (so one $15 subscription at any point), you can unlock all the DLC content (up to the point of your subscription) forever, so that's pretty nice if you reach the end of the game as a f2p player. At that point you're what is known as a "preferred" player, and it's like a middle ground between f2p and a subscriber, where you can still get some of the benefits of being a sub, but as a f2p player. Feel free to ask me what you can do as a preferred player, because that's what I am :)
F2p restrictions are mostly on:
- certain gear unlocks (mostly near endgame)
- subscribers get extra xp throughout the story
- subscribers can have as many characters as they want whereas I think f2p players get 2 (not entirely sure on this number. Might be like 4 or something).
- crafting is limited to 2 skills instead of 3
- cap on how much money you can have (1 million credits)
- can't participate in the operations (raids)
There are probably a few more, but I can't remember anymore.
F2P players have a max of 4 character slots (basically enough to fill a single class each for either Republic or Empire side) and F2P players also have two first expansions for free while their max level is 60 (subscribers and preferred players subbed after Onslaught expansion launch have it 75).
can play only 5 battlegrounds or so a week. can loot only few items from dungeons. its basically unplayable as f2p unless u are a masochist
Also! Most locked races (except Nautolan? I can't remember) can be bought for in game currency. You can also add a security key to your account and you'll get 100 cartel coins each month which is premium currency. It's not much but races are only 600, so if you sub and use the key you can buy whatever race you're wanting to play as.
@@CaseyHarMegiddo Actually, all races are unlockable through cartel coins, just that Nautolans, Togruta and Cathars are all Cartel Market exclusive.
Though if you buy a one month subscription, you unlock the non-Market races that can be created appropriately for the classes until the sub runs out (you get to keep the characters). Once you raise that character to level 50, you unlock that race forever and can create them for any class going forth.
I do apologize if this is the stuff you've known already, but in case a new player reads this, it's best to keep the others informed.
@@martinivanov1319 masochist? lol not ....beside the hours and hours ..... (read years) of fun you can have slow playing (read not epeening ;) ) on a nice story arc for 4 classes ... ship, legacy and stronghold customizing ;) sooooooo much to do
WOAH! I was just looking back at this game haha and I was like damn it would be cool to see Peon make a vid on it xD. because of the whole steam thing and here it is!!! :D. Love you man and never stop being you!
I came back around the start of quarantine, and I gotta say it's been a blast. I've grinded out Bounty Hunter and Jedi Sage(?), participated in a bunch of things like World Bosses & the weekly event rotations like racing & bounty hunting, and found myself actually getting so into it that I'm in a guild (which is something I've never done before in any MMO).
I'm currently waiting to stockpile up on credits to really get my $'s worth on the subscription unlocks, which I plan to do probably around the end of the year when I get some serious free time to sink into the game.
Overall, I'd say as a solo player, if you even passively enjoy Star Wars then you should give this game a chance. The story is great & adapts based on your choices, and you don't need to know *anything* about the prior 2 games that came out on the original Xbox to understand what's going on. The Jedi really make you feel like a Jedi, the Sith are extremely fun to play as, and if you're not into either of those things then the gunslinging classes are also just as good (if not better). Can't recommend this game enough.
Oh! And if you DO plan on playing the game for extended periods of time, be sure to sign up for the 2-step authenticator app on mobile. Each month the game gives you 100 Cartel Coins (the game's purchaseable currency) for free, and there's a handful of story-related achievements that give you some as well. Definitely helps in the long run, ESPECIALLY if you're like me and forget about the game, then come back years later to find yourself thousands of CC rich :D
I really like the vibe of this video brotha. Very honest (per the usual) and super funny lol. I also commend you for keeping up the grind even with the ping from Asia. I’ve been on that struggle bus before ✊🏾
"Unfortunately, I couldn't flirt with this thing."
I had such high hopes for this game when I was a kid. I miss how the combat feels at low level when ud use stun abilities and see enemies react with an appropriate animation to deal with mobs. Like as a smuggler ud kick a guy in nuts and pistol wipe another guy and ud see the animation of the target react appropriately. The games like wow but if they paid more attention to the details.
So I've been playing this game for about half a year and I really like it. Especially because I've gotten into a lot of star wars of within the last few years. I've also played wow since vanilla beta so even as a current wow fan, swtor is a pretty good game. Unfortunately they don't have raid (operation) drops throughout their expansions. Just a few that come with the expansion, and doesnt have big content patch updates every few months like wow. However, this game still has a ton of stuff to do and will take a very long time going through just the original story lines first
This is the MMO I've sunk the most amount of time into. I don't even really know what drew me in since I never normally stick with these games, but I played it for hours on end when it came out. Haven't played it in years though, really considering jumping back in now that it's on Steam.
You should play the class story.. For the base game to establish who you character is
I play this game now and then. I love the voice acting on everything, and the story driven content. I would play it more often, but there are far too many games and not enough time. :D
p.s. my only gripe, since I started playing it on release, is that they don't show your companion on your mount or the flight path mounts. That would keep the RPG immersion so great.
This game eats time. You think.. oh just an hour. And end up 10 hours later
One of the most underrated MMORPGs out there. Extremely good story from vanilla and on. As you pointed out, impactful combat as well. Definitely recommend starting at level 1, especially with the choices you get to make and relationships you get to build.
I have been coming back to this game since I was in middle school (I graduated high school 2 years ago) It actually has really good stories and have always pulled me back. Seems so weird it’s been this long😂
"I'm looking for a new Mobile MMO" said no on ever :D (I'm happy tho you get sponsors since I really enjoy your content!)
Oof I am. I just wanna be comfy and play on mmo on mobile but v4 is auto-play shit
The mobile market is literally the biggest gaming market in the world. I get your point that Peon probably wouldn't say that, not to mention that his viewers are probably mostly PC gamers. But still.
@@MillionZillion I'm pretty sure those MMOs give you the option to auto play your not forced
@@ShiftTheMatrixGaming true n that's what I hate.
@@MillionZillion Well u gotta understand there are tons out there who want auto progress since they are to busy or want to play other u. For those it works out but is still horrible with pay to win
Just now i was looking to download it , let me see you playing first :D
To be honest, i'd suggest you to go play it yourself.
I saw this video and doesn't review properly this game.
TheLazyPeon even skipped to level 70, absolutely not good.
This game is one of those games where you actually care about the story and get hyped over it despite being an mmorpg.
Go give it a try, stories are fucking amazing.
Just a couple notes on the flashpoints and operations;
There was a change to how flashpoints work back in 5.0(?) to where the story modes no longer require a trinity group, to help speed up queue times for those that just wanted to get through them, it can be a bit of a mish to run them with 4 dps, but I managed to have one run where the four of us were snipers and it's one of the funniest experiences I've had in the game. Usually however I've found you tend to get 3 dps and 1 either tank or heals. Veteran flashpoints are the ones that require trinity groups and are a bit harder than story mode.
On the operation queue thing I don't know of anyone that's ever used it, and most of my experience with running operations has been that groups broadcast roles needed, operation, and difficulty in the general chat on the faction fleet. (LF 1T 1H 2DPS 4 TBC SM for example) I'm pretty sure groups will only use the queue to fill players that drop during a run.
Great video tho! Although as a sniper/commando main my feelings are hurt ahaha
One of the best single player MMOs I’ve ever played, still play too. Play it for the stories because this was when BioWare was still good
SWTOR is the only game I can reliably enjoy no matter how many times I play it.
It's been 5 years since I play this game. I think I'm going try playing again.😂
downloading atm
I was just thinking the other day I wanted to ask you to check out this game. Really surprised and happy about the coincidence. I'm going to go check it out (I haven't played since it originally came out). Awesome vid as always!
This is pretty crazy that I just picked up SWTOR in the last day and then you do a video on it lol
Just clearing some things up:
Sub doesn't restrict class. Just wanted to point that out.
Casino tokens are for the Summer seasonal event. Has nothing to do with the shop, in case anyone was worried.
Yes, combat and class design are awesome!
To join operations, you have to join a group in the fleet. They are often being formed. For some reason people do that and don't queue randomly for an operation the way people do LFR in WoW. I just realized you queued in God from the machine week and that is a big no-no to go blind on. This isn't WoW LFR. You would never complete it even if the queue popped. It's a design issue, not a population issue. You can't clear that OP with newbies. If you were on Karagga's palace week, or Eternal vault week, you might've been able to join a group by queuing randomly. The thing is operation difficulty varies wildly. So, pre-made is the sure way to get them done.
The player base was fine before Steam. It got boosted since Ossus and Onslaught. Steam has just come to add even more players. The game has made 1Billion without Steam. It is not dependent on Steam at all. I guess you made this conclusion cause of the odd way Operation queues were adopted by players in this game and the Starfighter that no one enjoys except purists.
I want to make it clear. All Steam players could leave now and the game would still be fine. Of course though, it doesn't hurt.
Flashpoints do obey trinity rules in harder modes. It's only the story mode that doesn't.
The F2P restrictions are fine. The F2P is the option, not the sub. You can do everything without a sub, if you become prefered (aka sub for a month to unlock the content and restrictions). The only thing you will be limited in is Operations and number of warzones you can play at max level.
Dead game since 2011 and here we are in 2020 and he tells us it's a dead game. Deary me...
1Billion making dead game. We should have more! This is no TERA. This game is populated (and good).
@Clone Rayne I cannot fathom why anyone that likes Star wars wouldn't like SWTOR. Even for WoW players it's a really good alternative mmo.
The only problem is literally the content support which is anemic. But... while slow, it does advance and the game has been steadily improving.
Imagine playing without a lightsaber
Me with 3 Mercs, a Powertech, a smuggler, a trooper, 2 Agents, and 2 Snipers
Recently picked this back up with some friends and I love it. I don't really see it as an mmo as most of it can be played solo but my friends and I do the flashpoints together. You can't play most flashpoints by yourself even if you very level because there are planet level caps that will adjust your level to the max planet level if you go over it.
the black desert demon popping up when you said slot machine 🤣
When this game was brand new and sub based the pvp was amazing before they overhauled the ui and made the game havd horrible fps drops due to the 32bit system it runs on. The classes in this game were so much fun and the other factions iteration of it made all classes so unique and fun! If they remade the game 64bit or swtor 2 I'd be all over that for sure!! Pvp was amazing in this game but the fps drops make it pretty unplayable
For what it's worth; I started last week and have suffered absolutely no fps drops or lag/latency whatsoever. I'd highly recommend trying it again. Perhaps better hardware was provided for the steam release?
I played this from the very start with the full PvP battles on hoth, honestly I used to really enjoy the PvP and was a beast at hutball with my shadow, good times, might try it again and see what’s changed
@@SDieter81 Same
this game runs on a alpha HeroEngine that is so fucking outdated and modded by Bioware devs (cuz they had to mod it to continue development since HeroEngine devs back in the day stopped to work on the engine, and now they cant support it cuz Bioware fucked things up themselves) and now there is no fucking way to improve the game besides more engine modding.
Ya this really makes me sad because I've played wow for 15 years but still enjoyed swtor alot more because of the classes and its STAR WARS FFS!! The lore is next level, I remember being blown away coming to Coruscant for the first time when the game was new. Big majority of my pvp focused guild on the Fatman server quit because they promised ranked pvp for months when we were all at 100 rank pvp already, initially when the game was sub based... Took them forever to implement this and by the time they did they broke the game for pvp with the frame drops due to CPU and the pvp wasn't even the same again regardless. I remember the game running better on my pc that has 1/8 of the specs mine does now because of the platform it's built on.
Game died out a bit due to lack of end-game, and then it was hard to get groups since not all to many stuck around, then it went FTP and got some more, so if it got even more now it might be worth going back, Class stories are the best in the game imo, and the non-lightsabre classes are really fun tbh.
also i belive one of the problems with operations for you is that class is pure dps, always takes forever in queues
For flashpoints (dungeons), unless you do them in Master difficulty, you don't need the trinity (tank, heal, dps) in your group because the mobs and bosses do not hit hard, and there are healing boxes peppered around, with about 30s respawn.
Random operations aren't tagged by individual players, usually it's people forming groups from the hub (fleet), and then tagging as a premade. It's basically impossible to get an operation just by queuing solo.
I dont use group finder for operations, just goto the rep or imp space station and watch in chat for a raid forming and send them a tell and ask them if you can join(pls tell them your a new player so they can tell you how the zone works, you could kill the hole raid party if you dont watch your step in some zones), word of warning its not for the light of heart, a quick operation round can take 45 mins to hour to complete, and there is so much to learn in them, but the loot is good.
I am a long time player of this game. I played this game from BETA until about 2015 pretty much exclusively. Ran guilds, Ops teams, and all the high end content. I think you did a reasonable job showing the opinion of a new player, who's not usually into this type of game, and without any hand holding from a veteran player.
I would like to add some context for those that might be interested in this game from the perspective of a veteran of the game.
While PURE F2P approach to this game is still not recommended, Once you sub a couple months or pick up some cartel coins, you can permanently purchase many of those things that make the F2P experience bad. All unlocks can be made account wide, and if your characters already have some of those things unlocked but still have the modules, they can sell them on the GTN (Galactic Trade Network) for CREDITS, and flat just trade them to people. Of course the F2P players have to have trading unlocked...lol.
End game content is worth doing, but no serious OPS players use the que, most schedule it out. Problem with the que is many of the people that sign up have no clue what is going on, and these Operations have little to no help to clueless players. There are puzzles that will straight wipe an operation if no one knows how the puzzles work. And no one wants to spend 2-4 hours on an OPS, wiping on the puzzle content, it just doesn't work.
Galactic Starfighter. I was actually surprised you did this, and it was great. You captured the general experience of almost all players that try that mode for the first time. Which unfortunately, is why no one plays the damn thing. Which is truly a shame. I was introduced into it by a couple people that understood how the mode is meant to be played, and once you have the basics down, its one of the deepest star fighter pvp combat games that I have ever played, and I truly mean that. GSF could truly have been great with more content, but the barrier of entry scared off most players from the mode.
Is this game perfect, not by a long shot. But it has some of the most compelling traditional rpg elements of almost any other MMO out there, I do think they are the best. The character classes are generally balanced, and each individual run has much of its own rewards worth partaking in. The community is very welcoming, its not difficult to find a guild or two of people that will go out of their way to help you have a great experience, and alts feel way more worth it in a game like this rather than WoW.
I agree with your assessment, that this game is meant for those that love traditional, theme park style MMO's, and SWTOR is truly great at this formula, and just fantastic Star Wars content in general.
The two major criticisms I have for GSF is how grind heavy it is just to be viable, and how there is not other way to grind outside of just doing the pvp aspect. I think the solo space missions should give ship and fleet requisition as a way to grind up, and make it easier to get into it, maybe tie the reputation of that to getting better starting points on new characters
you said you can unlock the things that make the F2P experience bad. What do you recommend to unlock or what should I purchase to make my F2P experience the best way possible ?
@@mouzbreaker hide head slot, unify colors, expanded quickbars, and artifact equipment authorization (debatable). Those are the ones I remember are the most important. Artifact equipment is only really useful for those who have access to onslaught (subscribed for 1 month post December 2019)
Edit: Also purchasing the extra species might be worth it, but you can also just subscribe for 1 month and level a character of each species to 50 to get the same effect
"I think I can survive this." Famous last words.
I remember being super into this game when it first came out and played again after the hutt cartel expansion came out. But, I haven't touched it since. Glad to see it's still around.
One of the first games I started to play and my first MMO, probably biased by nostalgia but I totally love SWTOR. The community, variety of content and Storytelling was great!
damnn i remember playing this a while ago it was so fun with jedi sentinel cuz u dual wield lightsabers lol
After playing my hawt Shadow chick with stealth + double-ended lightsaber, ahem, you never look back! Can't imagine going back to clearing trash all the time just to get to the quest objective or boss again. Have another hawt Scoundrel around 30 which will be my next level up. The Sniper at 56 is fun though, as I can burst kill almost everything before it even moves or gets close to me, so horses for courses I guess.
I am just really damn impressed by this game's arstyle, for me concept art is everything in a game thats why i freaking adore games like destiny 1 and cyberpunk 2077
This game's artstyle and coloring is so aestethic and beautiful and i freaking love it
for those who don't know to do operations you need to head to the Republic or imperial fleets and start looking for players 4 dps 1 dwt 1 tank and 2 healers.
Tfw you log into your old swtor account from launch and have the Hutt hat from the last operation you ever did. My first MMO and damn I miss the guild I was in.
"Imagine playing SWTOR and playing a class that does not use a lightsaber."
Me, who went Imperial Agent because iT's kOtOr 3:
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Imp agent story is the best story in the game. Community voted too
@@freddyking4202 it is.
@@freddyking4202 really? I hated it. its easily my least favourite so far... only need to finish trooper. IMO bounty hunter is the best
Ben Milko it’s not my personal favorite either but the community voted not to long ago and imp agent won by quite a lot of votes. IMO Sith warrior is my favorite but it’s not the best. You see what I’m saying
This is the best single player mmo out there. I play on and off whenever the star wars mood takes me and I have 3 class stories left to finish
do you start your character level 1?
funny that you post this I've recently subbed and have been playing a lot
I was thinking about checking this out again, wondering if I could reconnect to my old account. The Imperial Agent storyline was so damn good, it'd be interesting to check how that continued into the expansions.
the most underated mmo of all time
why, does he mention Wildstar at some point?
Id say play it as a single player game not an MMO.
Played for quite a while after launch. May have to see if I can get back onto my old characters, now. This is one of the few games where I've ever gotten into the PvP side. Especially the starfighters. You can almost just do the starfighter PvP, as the reward and unlock system is almost entirely self-contained. At the time I stopped, there were like 2 or 3 fighters you could cash buy, but they weren't any better than the ones you unlocked. They just looked a little different.
I tried F2P for a bit. BIG difference in QoL, but they didn't take away any of my houses (every character got 2 or 3 mostly free when that launched).
Being a ranged tank as a Trooper is pretty awesome. Coming from tanking in EQ and WoW, being able to shoot and toss bombs for agro is so nice.
Recently revisited it and LOVING it.
If EA didn’t have such “high aspirations” THEY COULD RE-RELEASE SWG WITH NEW GRAPHICS ETC. AND BOOOOOMMMM THEYLL HAVE MILLLLLIONS
that game was ass
Just buy a disc and play SWGemu
The best content is still just the 2011 class stories
So you qued for a tactical flashpoint, these can be completed with a group of any mix of roles with any leveled characters. They are extremely easy for experienced players. The operation in queue when you were logged in is considered one of the harder of two operations for PUGs so no one is really willing to just group finder that.
9:15 Lmao I like the OSRS reference that made me laugh ty
I'm not even into MMOs and I'm LOVING this game right now
Continue playing my man, it's an amazing game.
You're not dying because it's close to impossible to die in this game. Your companion constantly heals you. You can enter a fight, leave the room to take a shit, come back and your guy will still be at close to full health.
being a bdo player of 2 years that black spirit picture that popped up when u found the slot machine coin had me in stitches xD
Operations are 8-16 player raids, that are usually organized in the fleet chats or through guilds rather than the groupfinder because its very difficult content that requires tactics, hope that clarifies things :P
Never needs to read his abilities. Can literally play the game with the UI off. I can see the difficulty in the main questing hasn't changed much.
tried multiple times to get through lvls 1- 30 and each time have gotten bored out of my mind from the lack of any kind of challenge.
"If i pick option #4 I'm not gonna do much dps am i?" How dare you! Have you not heard the tale of darth baras the wide? He can one shot people... Back in the day, even if he was type 4 body 😝
Lol Darth Baras the wide 🤣 Well I actually hammered him in the end. That sucker had it coming.
"Looks a little bit like Mars, but with more snow"...and the atmosphere and clouds and all the crops
Nobody queues for operations, groups are advertized in chat on the fleet. So you either join a group on the fleet or start your own group, announce it in chat and it usually fills up quite fast. Then when your group is formed you queue as a group and get an instant operation.
I remember TB reviewing this :(
We need more players in swtor
Game needs to be better first
We're getting more players due to Steam.
@@truegeminii6030 It's fun already
@@silviu94 Sure. But there's no reason someone looking for a new MMO should play it since its less of a MMO now than it was at launch.
In order to pop in on operations, you have to search in chat at the fleet station, no one uses the search finder at all.
I bought the big collector's edition box of this with the Darth Malgus statue back when it launched, and been playing it off and on ever since. I always come back to it. I think when you've got the settings maxed and a decent frame rate, the graphics really hold up well for its age. I like that you can also wear whatever gear you like because of how the equipment modification system works. Despite all the criticism it's gotten over the years, I've always had a soft spot for this game and I hope it never goes away. I think there's fun to be found in it for all kinds of players. I'm so glad it got a shot in the arm from Steam.
Scoundrel fo' life man!