Here is a link to the full text guide for those who prefer it: guildjen.com/beginners-guide-to-guild-wars-2-raids/ Small update: Banners and Spirits have been reworked since this videos release and no longer give unique buffs. They now are just additional sources of boons. They are no longer as required as they once were.
"Note: If you are ever joining a group for strike missions which are meant to be training for raids and are much much easier; and they ask you to link your LI, those people are insane." This cracked me up.
@CYKA BLYAT95 I know happened to me and for the first time when I wanted to try out a strike mission. And then I was like 'Yeah no, I go back to metas, those are much more fun for casual like me.'
@CYKA BLYAT95 That's because some people take this game too serious. Its the reason why I dont do any of it as much as I would like to try them. Oh well.
Just earlier today a commander was kicking people left and right if they didn't "prove they could read". Why do you need to confirm if people can read English in strike missions? Let alone kick them with only like a 10 second notice over it? Just grab 3 healers (for boneskinner, whisper of jormag, and cold war), make sure you have quickness and alac, organize subgroups properly, and you're set! It really is that easy to "command". Some people just take it too seriously and get their ego involved, I guess.
@@andreistan2830 LI has nothing to do with strikes, though. I knew all of the strike missions and could carry any pug with any of my various support builds before I even set foot in raids. Whenever I go into one of the 3 most difficult ones I just explain the mechanics real quick and give the disclaimer "if anyone needs it". It only takes 1 minute or less, since I'm a fast typer, which by the way is usually how long people stand around hitting the pylon for anyways.
I'd really love a guide into healing. I really wanna play as a healer in these raids, but nothing in the game prepares you for that or no way of knowing if you're doing it right. It would be amazing if Muk could cover the healing professions and how they must be operated in these raids. I mean, who else would do it if not Muk? lol
@@MuklukUA-cam "At the time of posting this"? Does that mean we can expect one in the future? I mean, one of the biggest reason I want a guide on them is so that I can choose what type of healer I wanna play as. Cause I know all the different healers play differently in this game. So I wanna choose something that suits me after checking out my options. For other professions that do DPS and stuff its easy to see for yourself if you like it by playing the character in open world, but for healers its a bit more complicated than that cause you need to find actual people to test your abilities on.
@@Anodic Your guides are amazing so I'd definitely watch yours if you made one...but Muk IS kinda known for being the trap loving druid maniac so his words hold more value in this particular category. lol
@@noelic6744 Honestly out of 4000 hours on gw2 like 90% of it is on ranger. It's very much my main class. Usually if someone asks me for advice on tempest or firebrand I point them to an existing guide for those on snowcrows.com or discretize.eu . So I've got this on my idea sheet, but not sure if I'll get around to it. (Got about 50 video ideas on that sheet right now)
I'm a well experienced Raider and can confirm, this is the best guide for raids ever. Althoufh one may argue mentioned support roles are subject to change, because of balance patches and future updates/elite specs.
When it comes to what stats to pick for your charachter, the rule of thumb is "generalize the group by specializing the individuals" So think of it this way, if im here to do dps, then pick a stat set that has ONLY damage stats, or a healer should pick stats sets that maximize their healing output, and boon duration. All other stats should be left behind. Be the absolute best that you possibly can be.
@@Razor4884 The problem with Raid Academy is a lot of times your schedule interferes. To make matters more annoying, the raids are done by 'graduations'. Starting off... you're only doing two raids (not full wings) a week. So fuck you if you're just raiding to get legendary armor faster than the WvW option, 13 weeks vs 22. If the raiding community wasn't such a shitshow, we might see it actually evolve better since a larger population of GW2 would feel welcomed. Whats more annoying... is that they gatekeep this shit so hard, when the raids of GW2 aren't even that difficult. And the guy who always puts up some stupid requirement like 150LI proof always feels like he just wants to get carried, because they are somehow worse than the newbies.
can't seem to edit or don't know how. It's not worth explaining in a pug as most likely nobody will see you again. Too small of a chance at least. If you are in a guild it's worth investing time in to explaining the mechanics for you because guild will have an additional runner once you are good/okay. Just join a guild and which has scheduled training raids.
i've been watching these vids for the last week, they have helpen me A LOT. i was stuck in gw2 not knowing what to do, but now i feel like end game is closer then i thought. thanks a lot!
@@marinhrabric6162 My first comment: I've never walked there, I use the Mistlock Santuary to get there. You don't see it if you're not looking for it. My second comment: Issa joke.
Helpful info. Really enjoy GW2 & just getting into Raids, I wish you didn't need a 'PhD' prior to getting into it. That's one thing I don't enjoy about this game. However videos like this & the discord cannels are EXTREMELY helpful. Thanks
That's kinda why I'm not a huge fan of LFGs. Most of the community for Raid LFGs in mostly any game are so uptight about their requirements to join. It's practically like applying for a job! "You can"t join unless you have this gear/experience" but you can't GET that gear/experience because no one will let you join. It adds too much stress/anxiety to the Raid so it's difficult to even bother trying. Same for Fractals. It'd rather have a matchmaking system, personally
I had the same anxiety about raids and fractals but then I tried fractals and t1 especially is actually more casual than I expected. It's more T3 where people start to get more uptight and I don't bother with T4 cus the rewards for T3 are good enough. I do want to start raiding though just because its something I've always stayed away from.
You can see it in the video but Mukluk doesn't explicitly mention it; RTI is a great place to get raid training too. Training raids are posted almost every day and the environment is super relaxed and friendly.
this was a great guide :) even though im a story only player over the past 7 years but this vid helped alot to me understanding more of what gw2 has . One day i would like to complete a raid ty :)
You are absolutely right about the 20k dps thing. I read a little and tried a little, and I averaged about 20k dps on the practice golem (full boons) the first time I tried (without really knowing a good rotation on my Berserker, just whacking it with axes). Once I get a real rotation down and get more knowledgeable I'm sure I can push 25-30. Great guide. I will probably watch this 6x before trying my first raid xD
I've been really enjoying playing as a ranger lately and your druid video was a huge help for really understanding the spec. since I love playing support I recently brought my druid into my first Gorseval training run and had a lot of fun with it! looking forward to raiding more as support
just found your channel days ago and wanted to thank you for explaining in a very basic level to a total newbie like me all the stuff on this great MMORPG
This video helped me set my characters up (and build up some courage) for finally getting into raids. I was fortunate to find a relaxed training run that has now turned into a regular group (we're all still learning some things), and some of us are close to finishing our Envoy II armor collections. Cheers Muk, stay awesome!
A nice and compact guide, I like it. I suppose we all have our own points we'd love to be added to/changed about this video but instead I will take it as is because I think it covers the basics well enough. Nothing too in-depth to scare people off and no flawed explanation to make people feel overconfident. The sum up at the end was a nice addition to let people off with a TL;DR. Only thing I wanna say is I would love a follow-up video on this at some point, perhaps to cover the single classes/roles and their "job" in a raid a little more in-depth. E.g. I believe a lot of people don't know how much value certain boons (can) have, when to use what utility or why class 1 is generally better at boss X than class 2. People might join trainings and things are fine there, but I see easily avoidable and common mistakes being made on a daily basis in PUGs (pick up groups) in LFG. I raid pretty much daily for the fun of it. Nothing can really prepare you for the LFG system it's literally the wild west there at times (there are good groups, too) but having a good raid or class knowledge before joining those can really help with your decision making. Edit: Perhaps also add an explanation for 5 man boons in a 10 man squad and how it works. This is also a problem I see on a daily basis. Like commanders locking the squad so noone can move themselves and then putting both quickness Firebrands in subgroup 1 and suddenly 2 wipes and 10 minutes later subgroup 2 complains they have no quickness. God knows why.
Yesterday i cleared Wing 1 for the first time and it was my first raid experience. Well having experience from doing fractal cms a lot i have learned how to position myself/dodge so as not to die and pick up fast how new mechanics work. I also got healing/pdps/cdps/alacrity classes so i can cover various roles and be flexible. It wasnt really difficult but it still took around 3 hours and the problem i see here is how hard it is to get into raids. I managed to find a group with an easy going commander who didnt care about fast clear or LI at all. But most groups do, same way i do at fractals. You dont want to spend hours on 1 boss. And training groups arent that often in EU lfg. So i have to wait for a similar opportunity to come up again (or make my own group but i cant say i know enough about this yet to command) and that is just Wing 1. Then i have 6 more Wings to learn. I mean it will get easier since i will have LI to show eventually but it still looks like a process that can take months considering i dont even have that kind of time to spare every day. Just clearing fractals takes up to 2 hours
I find it funny when players spend half an hour or more over perfecting compositions when they could simply run the instance another minute or two longer
Had a dude join my squad once for strike .. He got annoyed and left because we didn't link LI .. Then we all laughed and killed the boss. Not only that .. it was the frickin Shiverpeak pass strike! I didn't even know how to react XD
yep. I did cold war without even knowing any specific mechanic with half of the group being noobs. We just had to ask to one guy to play healer and to other guy to use alacrity to have a reasonable comp. Of course we had to take a little longer to do the strike but we did it at first try. People waste so much time trying to find the "perfect player" with the "perfect comp" and then they still wipe because one of them forgot about some mechanic anyway.
Wow just now i was about to search on this topic and you uploaded this video 3hrs ago :D thanks man. btw The Butterfrost guy here XD dont know if u can remember from twitch chat .
There's some toxicity to be found in Raids sure, but its greatly exaggerated. I'v done Raids for 4 years here and sure in Pugs your bound to find someone who is Rude eventually, but when i do raids with my guilds i would say only 3 of 100 people were Rude or Toxic ^^ And those people didn't last long in the Guild and were kicked.
Surprisingly for and end-of-wing boss, she's actually not that bad for a first timer dps if your group knows what they are doing. You don't have to care about the towers as the kiter and the jumpers can take care of that. So that leaves kicking bombs, not exploding in the group, evade the obvious wall-of-instant-death and do damage and CC. Edit: Did you kill her?
@@GeneralAblon It takes a bit getting used to. Not sure if it's more fun when you still struggle or when you roflstomp everything. A mix of both is probably best. Like you can defeat Cairn but have to play the mechanics instead of just deleting him in under a minute.
Something he didn't mention but I think it's kinda nice to know Dps can be extremely different from boss to boss: IE: Average dps in KC or Cairn is usually between 20k to 30k, while Samarog and Adina are usually between 10k to 18k (ofc this is average pug groups, there will be crazy ppl who will do more)
to anyone who decides to read the comments, fair warning about raiding. getting into training groups can be a big hassle, i was very unlucky and i had to juggle a few discord channels in order to finally get a spot. muk does say lfg may require some li\kp but be warned, the community have decided on a very arbitary number that does not represent how hard the raid is and is very bloated and as such, pugging in this game is very very unaccessible. this goes to the general raiding experience, in comparession to other mmo like wow or ffxiv, these raids are very easy yet its a complete pain in the butt to join them, u have to grind an unreasonable amount of li inorder to get into a raid.
there are barely any guilds or static groups that do raids as a group from start to finish as a new team and the ones that do just farm it and expect u also to have a stupid amount of li. i know muk might read this and disagree, but his experience as a pillar of the community is very different and might not represent what me and 2 of my unknown friends had as players. i really do feel like this point isnt clear in any video online yet i feel for me and my buddies it was the bane of our experience.
Completely agree, the raiding community in this game is ridiculous, even though the raids are much easier than other mmos like XIV and WoW, yet for some reason the elitism is much higher here lol
Great video ! As always :v I'd just add that, since you talked about cqfb, I'd have liked a little part about Condi RR Renegade for the alacrity boon, since I often find myself having to explain what is this (sometimes very useful) role. Also 8:27, lmaoo the real question about why W7 is before W6. Mysteries in gw2's universe :shrug:
@@Ralesk I just play openworld sometimes I try to solo a fractal but it can take hours or getting disconnected, I hate story instances for the same reasons :P in my guild people get angry if I don't want to try and do raids, and they get angry when I lag so now I've just given up entirely
This happens though. I ask for 3 healers on my whisper of Jormag runs, we usually get it in one try. I often join "raid comp" groups and we freaking wipe and give up. This community has all the intelligence of a carrot sometimes. Bring an ele, HB and HS healers you will be able to clear BS/Whisper if most people do mechanics.
@@GeneralAblon Only if they're me ; ) I actually start groups as a heal tempest. That's how I get away with it. You can give 100% uptime to protection with earth attunement if you spec into your auras grant protection. Super useful. Sometimes people leave. But everyone who stays knows I'm not crazy.
Great video! Do you have a video of what squad compositions new Raiders should try so that they will have a better chance to succeed and can concentrate more on learning the mechanics and strategies of the Raids, instead of just trying to stay alive and mashing keys?
My biggest issue with potentially getting into raiding is that I am a skill clicker and I have never been able to learn rotations (they seem pretty complex usually). Most DPS I think I've ever done to a single target is about 12k.... and it's hard to keep that going for long periods of time. Been able to do well in fractals most of the time (did do all the way to 100), though never attempted a CM.
This is useful because I keep getting kicked out when playing raids cause I don't know what to do ... It's annoying, haven't got a single raid done......
once again great explanations, thank you. but it just makes me more depressed knowing that i'll never be able to raid. my guild are all irl friends and our top dps is me, at 13k lol i wish raids weren't built around perfect or near perfect optimizations as the base requirements. isn't that what the challenge mote is for? i remember when gw2 was announced, they said you don't need specific builds or roles, everyone can do everything. but not with raids. i dont even want the rewards, i just wish there was a story mode that i can get through with my friends so i can experience the lore behind it all. but i guess i'll just resort to youtube and wiki for those instead. and im not saying they should make raids easier. no, keep it at the same difficulty because obviously there are players that enjoy the challenge. but it's not hard to make an easier version of it. and i know there are lots of conversations going on about the pros and cons of this. but i've seen good solutions to this posted and wish they can move towards something like that. and like i said, i dont even want the rewards if the issue is with an item's prestige. just don't lock a content behind a wall.
If you stick at it, and are willing to listen and learn from the experienced like those in RTI and Raid Academy, you and your friends can raid too. I've done it before, learning from others then taking that knowledge and building a full raiding squad from my casual guild (we now have 2 full clear groups on Mon/Tue for w1-4, another squad that'll clear the same over the course of the week, and 1-2 raid trainings a week for our fresh meat who are interested in raiding). Edit: 13k isn't bad as a start. Did you setup boons and class buffs on yourself and conditions on the golem accordingly? Makes a huge difference. If you did, then just a little practice is all that's needed.
Try joining guilds that do stuff together like meta events. That's how I got into raiding. They were a guild dedicated to the meta event triple trouble. Very passionate people. Didnt even know that they do raid trainings until I someone advertised. A large guild would likely have members that also belong other guilds that do raid trainings. Just watch out for those advertisements or maybe in their discord.
@@frankmills1917 absolutely agree, except i don't like to play games with people i don't know irl lol my guild is my own circle of friends. it's my own fault i know.
the thing is some raids can be done by a noob who just has some guidance. I don't get why people get so elitist with it. Unless you are making it in challenge mode or in normal mode in some special raids you don't even have a reason to have an ego in most raids.
@@paulgotik picking up a noob and carrying him is easy. Group 10 noobs together and watch them suffer. There is huge gap between lvl 80 noob and lvl 80 usefull player who knows how his class works, not even talking about basic setup for raids or even meta.
It isn't required, but it doesn't hurt. You can join a strike group in seconds so it would be very easy to do to experience 10 man content if you haven't already.
Here is the real guide Step 1. Join Raid Step 2. Raid ignores you to check KP Step 3. Get kicked from raid because you haven't played raids every week for 3 years Step 4. Repeat until you realize that raids are worthless and go do something else I honestly don't get why raid groups are so toxic when the raids in this game are dogshit easy compared to most other MMOs. Most LFGs unironically expect you to do 100+ training runs before they even consider you
The known build necessity for raids is so dull in my opinion. It much more exciting to make due with whatever is on hand or unique fun non-optimal builds. I know that players would just consider these fights to easy because they would play the optimized builds but I submit that these people are just boring. Play something unique. Sew chaos and confusion. Why make yourself a cog. Why even be alive if thats what you're doing? This was one of the great things about Diablo 2. RNG boss immunity. No matter what you do you might just be useless. Learn to adapt or just have your but handed to you by multishot lightning enchanted. but props to people who put in the time to excel at this anyway. Be the best... whatever it is you're gonna be.
You talked about Power and Condition damage, but I've always wondered - power obviously affects melee, but will it also affect the 1 attack? For example, necro attacks are almost always ranged (axe, staff, etc). Does power affect the auto attack, or the 'magic damage' when marks are triggered?
The "1" attack of many weapons can have condition damage on it. Such as necro scepter 1. But the "impact" damage, scales with power on all weapons. In the case of the necro scepter, it does "impact" damage as power, then applies conditions.
For ppl who want to find a build, Snowcrow (SC) or LuckyNoobs (LN) website will provide you w/ most infomation needed. But keep in mind that some builds are aim for speedclears / hard to use perfectly. Training area and The golem are your best friends
Learning Druid, So frost spirit is 5% more dps for power builds? How about sun spirit? Should you take them if you have both condi and power dmg in the team? Pick based on that? Also is Stone Spirit more for Fractals or? Just want to learn
I want to do raids, but only for mastery points (I'm collecting them all)... Any tips on finding groups that'll accept someone who has never done these before
I'm not going to touch raids until they make a variant of them that players can anonymously queue into. WoW did something like that, allowed you to pick a role and queue, and for once I was able to play content that I hadn't touched for a decade.
Hey Muk, I just watched this video and it really helped. Thanks! Are you still doing Raid training? If so how do I signup on Discord I don't see the signup like you showed in the video?
Hey Keyon, I don't do it as often as I used to, but there are still groups on our discord that go VERY frequently, check the #gw2-na-lfg-channel or #gw2-eu-lfg channel (depending on your region) on the discord.
You do need the HoT expansion to access W1-4 and PoF to access W5-7, in the end you should get both since you need elite specs in Raids(unless your good with Core Guardian and Engineer)
@@wpeiorfjmoaeksfimpreigfmkpaois Well i simply see LI/KP requirements and i can't join. Joined some training guilds but apparently they all have statics and are not really training new people. When it comes to skill/dps/healing i'm way more then fine after all these years. Mechanics tho.. yea.. still havent watched all raid mechanics. So basically just stuck in T4 for over 4 years now. That's the "endgame" content that i got stuck with.
peeps talking about 20K+ dps, seeing vids of people doing 80k+ dps, meanwhile I just finally hit level 80: Don't have enough hero points to max out my class and do like 500 dps wtf is this game
This is all great but I dont have the time or will to have to tweak every bit of my build to up ease other players. I want to go in kick ass and get out with a reward. That is why I like to play solo. If I f*k up I am the only one that loses and I will just try again.
Yh same. I have pretty much maxed out my gear with the exception of legendary stuff (which to my knowledge is just cosmetic + being able to switch stats at any time) but my current stats are kinda spread out so I'm passable with most attributes but I'm not amazing with anything except maybe condi is slightly better than the other attributes but not amazingly powerful. because back in the days the only thing running through my mind was 'will this help keep me alive?' and 'me like traps - me add condi stats'
Raided in swtor/wow and ffxiv and the highest level getting into gw2 raiding seems impossible. Literally can gear up in 1 day and do ultimate in ffxiv i think more mmos need to look up the ease of getting into more content and not making it so grindy just to do endgame. This whole hardcore mmo thing is played out and most of us have jobs irl, I bet gw2 raid community is smol and toxic.
"after your very first raid boss kill" should say - "after your very first raid boss kill in Heart of Thorns" i joined a w7 raid and never got my start to the mastery.
Here is a link to the full text guide for those who prefer it: guildjen.com/beginners-guide-to-guild-wars-2-raids/
Small update: Banners and Spirits have been reworked since this videos release and no longer give unique buffs. They now are just additional sources of boons. They are no longer as required as they once were.
"Note: If you are ever joining a group for strike missions which are meant to be training for raids and are much much easier; and they ask you to link your LI, those people are insane."
This cracked me up.
@CYKA BLYAT95 I know happened to me and for the first time when I wanted to try out a strike mission. And then I was like 'Yeah no, I go back to metas, those are much more fun for casual like me.'
@CYKA BLYAT95 That's because some people take this game too serious. Its the reason why I dont do any of it as much as I would like to try them. Oh well.
Just earlier today a commander was kicking people left and right if they didn't "prove they could read". Why do you need to confirm if people can read English in strike missions? Let alone kick them with only like a 10 second notice over it? Just grab 3 healers (for boneskinner, whisper of jormag, and cold war), make sure you have quickness and alac, organize subgroups properly, and you're set! It really is that easy to "command". Some people just take it too seriously and get their ego involved, I guess.
I create group for strikes for 100 li, just to make sure those people know their what they are doing and I don't get dps with 7k dps
@@andreistan2830 LI has nothing to do with strikes, though. I knew all of the strike missions and could carry any pug with any of my various support builds before I even set foot in raids. Whenever I go into one of the 3 most difficult ones I just explain the mechanics real quick and give the disclaimer "if anyone needs it". It only takes 1 minute or less, since I'm a fast typer, which by the way is usually how long people stand around hitting the pylon for anyways.
I'd really love a guide into healing. I really wanna play as a healer in these raids, but nothing in the game prepares you for that or no way of knowing if you're doing it right. It would be amazing if Muk could cover the healing professions and how they must be operated in these raids. I mean, who else would do it if not Muk? lol
I do have one for druid out right now (my main class) if you would like it. But the others I don't at the time of posting this.
oh no my idea was leaked
@@MuklukUA-cam "At the time of posting this"? Does that mean we can expect one in the future?
I mean, one of the biggest reason I want a guide on them is so that I can choose what type of healer I wanna play as. Cause I know all the different healers play differently in this game. So I wanna choose something that suits me after checking out my options. For other professions that do DPS and stuff its easy to see for yourself if you like it by playing the character in open world, but for healers its a bit more complicated than that cause you need to find actual people to test your abilities on.
@@Anodic Your guides are amazing so I'd definitely watch yours if you made one...but Muk IS kinda known for being the trap loving druid maniac so his words hold more value in this particular category. lol
@@noelic6744 Honestly out of 4000 hours on gw2 like 90% of it is on ranger. It's very much my main class. Usually if someone asks me for advice on tempest or firebrand I point them to an existing guide for those on snowcrows.com or discretize.eu . So I've got this on my idea sheet, but not sure if I'll get around to it. (Got about 50 video ideas on that sheet right now)
I'm a well experienced Raider and can confirm, this is the best guide for raids ever.
Althoufh one may argue mentioned support roles are subject to change, because of balance patches and future updates/elite specs.
This is the channel we need but we don't deserve...keep doing what you doing Muk 🔥
What do you mean we don't deserve? I have seen so many good people who have been willing to help me
I do deserve it, though!
When it comes to what stats to pick for your charachter, the rule of thumb is "generalize the group by specializing the individuals"
So think of it this way, if im here to do dps, then pick a stat set that has ONLY damage stats, or a healer should pick stats sets that maximize their healing output, and boon duration. All other stats should be left behind.
Be the absolute best that you possibly can be.
I have done 3 raids so far, but now adays its hard to play raid again, since theyre rarely wellcoming new player/ traning run.
try to find a training guild or a raid static to run with!
I've been trying to find Fractal CM training groups for weeks now. All of the listings require several thousand UFE though :(
@@Razor4884 The problem with Raid Academy is a lot of times your schedule interferes. To make matters more annoying, the raids are done by 'graduations'. Starting off... you're only doing two raids (not full wings) a week. So fuck you if you're just raiding to get legendary armor faster than the WvW option, 13 weeks vs 22. If the raiding community wasn't such a shitshow, we might see it actually evolve better since a larger population of GW2 would feel welcomed.
Whats more annoying... is that they gatekeep this shit so hard, when the raids of GW2 aren't even that difficult. And the guy who always puts up some stupid requirement like 150LI proof always feels like he just wants to get carried, because they are somehow worse than the newbies.
u need a guild
can't seem to edit or don't know how.
It's not worth explaining in a pug as most likely nobody will see you again. Too small of a chance at least.
If you are in a guild it's worth investing time in to explaining the mechanics for you because guild will have an additional runner once you are good/okay. Just join a guild and which has scheduled training raids.
"I have a guide about that " love to hear it o7
i've been watching these vids for the last week, they have helpen me A LOT. i was stuck in gw2 not knowing what to do, but now i feel like end game is closer then i thought. thanks a lot!
"Burn me it's a stingray"
.....IVE NEVER NOTICED
Wait till you notice the other buildings in lions arch !
@@MuklukUA-cam You mean to tell me the lobster looking building was shaped like a lobster for a reason.
How?
@@marinhrabric6162 My first comment: I've never walked there, I use the Mistlock Santuary to get there. You don't see it if you're not looking for it.
My second comment: Issa joke.
@@screamingopossum7809 oh. Ok
Helpful info. Really enjoy GW2 & just getting into Raids, I wish you didn't need a 'PhD' prior to getting into it. That's one thing I don't enjoy about this game. However videos like this & the discord cannels are EXTREMELY helpful. Thanks
That's kinda why I'm not a huge fan of LFGs. Most of the community for Raid LFGs in mostly any game are so uptight about their requirements to join. It's practically like applying for a job!
"You can"t join unless you have this gear/experience" but you can't GET that gear/experience because no one will let you join.
It adds too much stress/anxiety to the Raid so it's difficult to even bother trying. Same for Fractals. It'd rather have a matchmaking system, personally
Eso is great in that regard. Super casual and the only real requirement for beating content is that the group has 1 tank.
I had the same anxiety about raids and fractals but then I tried fractals and t1 especially is actually more casual than I expected. It's more T3 where people start to get more uptight and I don't bother with T4 cus the rewards for T3 are good enough. I do want to start raiding though just because its something I've always stayed away from.
You can see it in the video but Mukluk doesn't explicitly mention it; RTI is a great place to get raid training too. Training raids are posted almost every day and the environment is super relaxed and friendly.
So much content in this game and you have videos on all of them. It's hard to decide where to start!
this was a great guide :) even though im a story only player over the past 7 years but this vid helped alot to me understanding more of what gw2 has . One day i would like to complete a raid ty :)
You are absolutely right about the 20k dps thing. I read a little and tried a little, and I averaged about 20k dps on the practice golem (full boons) the first time I tried (without really knowing a good rotation on my Berserker, just whacking it with axes). Once I get a real rotation down and get more knowledgeable I'm sure I can push 25-30. Great guide. I will probably watch this 6x before trying my first raid xD
I've been really enjoying playing as a ranger lately and your druid video was a huge help for really understanding the spec. since I love playing support I recently brought my druid into my first Gorseval training run and had a lot of fun with it! looking forward to raiding more as support
Bless you. I was browsing reddit trying to figure out how to get into raiding. Thank you
just found your channel days ago and wanted to thank you for explaining in a very basic level to a total newbie like me all the stuff on this great MMORPG
This video helped me set my characters up (and build up some courage) for finally getting into raids. I was fortunate to find a relaxed training run that has now turned into a regular group (we're all still learning some things), and some of us are close to finishing our Envoy II armor collections.
Cheers Muk, stay awesome!
Nice! I'm glad you had a fun experience :D
A nice and compact guide, I like it.
I suppose we all have our own points we'd love to be added to/changed about this video but instead I will take it as is because I think it covers the basics well enough. Nothing too in-depth to scare people off and no flawed explanation to make people feel overconfident. The sum up at the end was a nice addition to let people off with a TL;DR.
Only thing I wanna say is I would love a follow-up video on this at some point, perhaps to cover the single classes/roles and their "job" in a raid a little more in-depth. E.g. I believe a lot of people don't know how much value certain boons (can) have, when to use what utility or why class 1 is generally better at boss X than class 2. People might join trainings and things are fine there, but I see easily avoidable and common mistakes being made on a daily basis in PUGs (pick up groups) in LFG. I raid pretty much daily for the fun of it. Nothing can really prepare you for the LFG system it's literally the wild west there at times (there are good groups, too) but having a good raid or class knowledge before joining those can really help with your decision making.
Edit: Perhaps also add an explanation for 5 man boons in a 10 man squad and how it works. This is also a problem I see on a daily basis. Like commanders locking the squad so noone can move themselves and then putting both quickness Firebrands in subgroup 1 and suddenly 2 wipes and 10 minutes later subgroup 2 complains they have no quickness. God knows why.
"2 days ago"
What sorcery is this?
Movie magic
Yesterday i cleared Wing 1 for the first time and it was my first raid experience. Well having experience from doing fractal cms a lot i have learned how to position myself/dodge so as not to die and pick up fast how new mechanics work. I also got healing/pdps/cdps/alacrity classes so i can cover various roles and be flexible. It wasnt really difficult but it still took around 3 hours and the problem i see here is how hard it is to get into raids. I managed to find a group with an easy going commander who didnt care about fast clear or LI at all. But most groups do, same way i do at fractals. You dont want to spend hours on 1 boss. And training groups arent that often in EU lfg. So i have to wait for a similar opportunity to come up again (or make my own group but i cant say i know enough about this yet to command) and that is just Wing 1. Then i have 6 more Wings to learn. I mean it will get easier since i will have LI to show eventually but it still looks like a process that can take months considering i dont even have that kind of time to spare every day. Just clearing fractals takes up to 2 hours
that's why joining a guild that does training or specifically a Raid Training Guild is the best way to get into it. All the best
You are just the boss ! Very handfull for a player like me who don't know well high lvl content :) thanks a lot
Really nice Tutorial explaining the utility classes and the tips and tricks are really appreciated
I find it funny when players spend half an hour or more over perfecting compositions when they could simply run the instance another minute or two longer
Had a dude join my squad once for strike .. He got annoyed and left because we didn't link LI .. Then we all laughed and killed the boss. Not only that .. it was the frickin Shiverpeak pass strike! I didn't even know how to react XD
yep. I did cold war without even knowing any specific mechanic with half of the group being noobs. We just had to ask to one guy to play healer and to other guy to use alacrity to have a reasonable comp. Of course we had to take a little longer to do the strike but we did it at first try. People waste so much time trying to find the "perfect player" with the "perfect comp" and then they still wipe because one of them forgot about some mechanic anyway.
Wow just now i was about to search on this topic and you uploaded this video 3hrs ago :D thanks man. btw The Butterfrost guy here XD dont know if u can remember from twitch chat .
I am nervous doing raids cause I never done is before..and i know people love to rage.. This helps .. Thanks ❤
There's some toxicity to be found in Raids sure, but its greatly exaggerated.
I'v done Raids for 4 years here and sure in Pugs your bound to find someone who is Rude eventually, but when i do raids with my guilds i would say only 3 of 100 people were Rude or Toxic ^^
And those people didn't last long in the Guild and were kicked.
Such a helpful video. Liked and subscribed straight away. Thank you!
Definitely linking this to guildies that ask how to get into raiding
Did my first raid 2 weeks ago. Started with Sabatha, because a guildie invited me after someone left. It was.... interesting. Fun though!
Surprisingly for and end-of-wing boss, she's actually not that bad for a first timer dps if your group knows what they are doing.
You don't have to care about the towers as the kiter and the jumpers can take care of that.
So that leaves kicking bombs, not exploding in the group, evade the obvious wall-of-instant-death and do damage and CC.
Edit: Did you kill her?
@@kaltaron1284 yeah, first and, thus far, only raid boss I beat.
@@GeneralAblon No more raiding in 8 months? Hope there's more to come.
@@kaltaron1284 i dislike getting stressed out by games. Still, we will see.
@@GeneralAblon It takes a bit getting used to. Not sure if it's more fun when you still struggle or when you roflstomp everything.
A mix of both is probably best.
Like you can defeat Cairn but have to play the mechanics instead of just deleting him in under a minute.
very good guide, thank you
Something he didn't mention but I think it's kinda nice to know
Dps can be extremely different from boss to boss:
IE: Average dps in KC or Cairn is usually between 20k to 30k, while Samarog and Adina are usually between 10k to 18k (ofc this is average pug groups, there will be crazy ppl who will do more)
to anyone who decides to read the comments, fair warning about raiding. getting into training groups can be a big hassle, i was very unlucky and i had to juggle a few discord channels in order to finally get a spot. muk does say lfg may require some li\kp but be warned, the community have decided on a very arbitary number that does not represent how hard the raid is and is very bloated and as such, pugging in this game is very very unaccessible. this goes to the general raiding experience, in comparession to other mmo like wow or ffxiv, these raids are very easy yet its a complete pain in the butt to join them, u have to grind an unreasonable amount of li inorder to get into a raid.
there are barely any guilds or static groups that do raids as a group from start to finish as a new team and the ones that do just farm it and expect u also to have a stupid amount of li. i know muk might read this and disagree, but his experience as a pillar of the community is very different and might not represent what me and 2 of my unknown friends had as players. i really do feel like this point isnt clear in any video online yet i feel for me and my buddies it was the bane of our experience.
Completely agree, the raiding community in this game is ridiculous, even though the raids are much easier than other mmos like XIV and WoW, yet for some reason the elitism is much higher here lol
Which is why ANET never makes new raids. The community “Gate Kept” its way into a no new content situation cause no new players can play this content.
This is a great guide.
I really appreciate your videos and content !
Great video ! As always :v
I'd just add that, since you talked about cqfb, I'd have liked a little part about Condi RR Renegade for the alacrity boon, since I often find myself having to explain what is this (sometimes very useful) role.
Also 8:27, lmaoo the real question about why W7 is before W6. Mysteries in gw2's universe :shrug:
I am NEVER gonna do raids but yet I watch this video because you made it lol :3
Why not?
Never say never :D I did, then I went on to raid every week for like half a year or so
@@Ralesk Eh my ping goes from 2000-10.000 and people get angry at me for lagging so
@@taegiseoktrash8874 Well that _is_ a bummer, must be really uncomfortable to play like that...
@@Ralesk I just play openworld sometimes I try to solo a fractal but it can take hours or getting disconnected, I hate story instances for the same reasons :P in my guild people get angry if I don't want to try and do raids, and they get angry when I lag so now I've just given up entirely
now i know.. hahaha! i find this very informative and simple :D thanks for this
Love your content. Really informative
Great video Muk
"500li All strikes". Group gets wiped by Kodans because dps, top notch, mechanics 0.
Hilarious.... *shivers*
This happens though. I ask for 3 healers on my whisper of Jormag runs, we usually get it in one try. I often join "raid comp" groups and we freaking wipe and give up. This community has all the intelligence of a carrot sometimes. Bring an ele, HB and HS healers you will be able to clear BS/Whisper if most people do mechanics.
@@fenikslied wait, so I can actually find a group as a heal ele for WoJ?
@@GeneralAblon Only if they're me ; ) I actually start groups as a heal tempest. That's how I get away with it. You can give 100% uptime to protection with earth attunement if you spec into your auras grant protection. Super useful. Sometimes people leave. But everyone who stays knows I'm not crazy.
@@fenikslied u play without alacrigates? It can provide perma protection also
Great video! Do you have a video of what squad compositions new Raiders should try so that they will have a better chance to succeed and can concentrate more on learning the mechanics and strategies of the Raids, instead of just trying to stay alive and mashing keys?
I was just thinking all week about how I wanted to try raiding
Thank You bro!
use to play alot and just got back to the game the term hand kiter sent me back in time lmfao
TheDornishSpear.2597
This reminds me of the old school arcade racers like jetmoto, but with the incredible graphics of this game. Truly incredible.
Thanks so much 🎉
Thanks Muk!
muk, i did not know you come from the netherlands :D (The auto-generated subtitle is a Dutch subtitle :D)
Been trying for weeks to get training - no dice. Anet needs to make an auto trainer since people won't do it anymore.
Now that I got this information, all I need is a good kick in the back to start raiding :)
I hope to one day get to this point
Amazing , you are great
My biggest issue with potentially getting into raiding is that I am a skill clicker and I have never been able to learn rotations (they seem pretty complex usually). Most DPS I think I've ever done to a single target is about 12k.... and it's hard to keep that going for long periods of time. Been able to do well in fractals most of the time (did do all the way to 100), though never attempted a CM.
Great guide!
Crazy that there's no practice modes in the game you could do yourself solo. To test your build and learn mechanics.
Mechanits, no, but you can practice your dps and hps on the special ops training room in lions arch aerodrome.
Hey Muk, you still doing raid training? I want to get to raids but ppl are so toxic.
This is useful because I keep getting kicked out when playing raids cause I don't know what to do ... It's annoying, haven't got a single raid done......
once again great explanations, thank you. but it just makes me more depressed knowing that i'll never be able to raid. my guild are all irl friends and our top dps is me, at 13k lol i wish raids weren't built around perfect or near perfect optimizations as the base requirements. isn't that what the challenge mote is for? i remember when gw2 was announced, they said you don't need specific builds or roles, everyone can do everything. but not with raids. i dont even want the rewards, i just wish there was a story mode that i can get through with my friends so i can experience the lore behind it all. but i guess i'll just resort to youtube and wiki for those instead. and im not saying they should make raids easier. no, keep it at the same difficulty because obviously there are players that enjoy the challenge. but it's not hard to make an easier version of it. and i know there are lots of conversations going on about the pros and cons of this. but i've seen good solutions to this posted and wish they can move towards something like that. and like i said, i dont even want the rewards if the issue is with an item's prestige. just don't lock a content behind a wall.
If you stick at it, and are willing to listen and learn from the experienced like those in RTI and Raid Academy, you and your friends can raid too. I've done it before, learning from others then taking that knowledge and building a full raiding squad from my casual guild (we now have 2 full clear groups on Mon/Tue for w1-4, another squad that'll clear the same over the course of the week, and 1-2 raid trainings a week for our fresh meat who are interested in raiding).
Edit: 13k isn't bad as a start. Did you setup boons and class buffs on yourself and conditions on the golem accordingly? Makes a huge difference. If you did, then just a little practice is all that's needed.
Try joining guilds that do stuff together like meta events. That's how I got into raiding. They were a guild dedicated to the meta event triple trouble. Very passionate people. Didnt even know that they do raid trainings until I someone advertised. A large guild would likely have members that also belong other guilds that do raid trainings. Just watch out for those advertisements or maybe in their discord.
@@frankmills1917 absolutely agree, except i don't like to play games with people i don't know irl lol my guild is my own circle of friends. it's my own fault i know.
i'm too much of a casual player to be joining raids. And raids are mostly havens for elitists. Very nice guide tho!
the thing is some raids can be done by a noob who just has some guidance. I don't get why people get so elitist with it. Unless you are making it in challenge mode or in normal mode in some special raids you don't even have a reason to have an ego in most raids.
@@paulgotik picking up a noob and carrying him is easy. Group 10 noobs together and watch them suffer. There is huge gap between lvl 80 noob and lvl 80 usefull player who knows how his class works, not even talking about basic setup for raids or even meta.
a+ for the strike LI burn
Oh thank goodness, I am about to hit 80 and nervous about what comes next lol
super helpful, I will get my feet wet eventually. Do you recommend Strike Missions before raiding?
It isn't required, but it doesn't hurt. You can join a strike group in seconds so it would be very easy to do to experience 10 man content if you haven't already.
Here is the real guide
Step 1. Join Raid
Step 2. Raid ignores you to check KP
Step 3. Get kicked from raid because you haven't played raids every week for 3 years
Step 4. Repeat until you realize that raids are worthless and go do something else
I honestly don't get why raid groups are so toxic when the raids in this game are dogshit easy compared to most other MMOs. Most LFGs unironically expect you to do 100+ training runs before they even consider you
The known build necessity for raids is so dull in my opinion. It much more exciting to make due with whatever is on hand or unique fun non-optimal builds. I know that players would just consider these fights to easy because they would play the optimized builds but I submit that these people are just boring. Play something unique. Sew chaos and confusion. Why make yourself a cog. Why even be alive if thats what you're doing? This was one of the great things about Diablo 2. RNG boss immunity. No matter what you do you might just be useless. Learn to adapt or just have your but handed to you by multishot lightning enchanted.
but props to people who put in the time to excel at this anyway. Be the best... whatever it is you're gonna be.
2 condi renegades can give 10man alac aswell with RR trait
Has anyone noticed that there are 2 men walking with the same steps in the background? :D 09:24
You talked about Power and Condition damage, but I've always wondered - power obviously affects melee, but will it also affect the 1 attack? For example, necro attacks are almost always ranged (axe, staff, etc). Does power affect the auto attack, or the 'magic damage' when marks are triggered?
The "1" attack of many weapons can have condition damage on it. Such as necro scepter 1. But the "impact" damage, scales with power on all weapons. In the case of the necro scepter, it does "impact" damage as power, then applies conditions.
@@MuklukUA-cam Thanks. You're the frickin' best!
For ppl who want to find a build, Snowcrow (SC) or LuckyNoobs (LN) website will provide you w/ most infomation needed.
But keep in mind that some builds are aim for speedclears / hard to use perfectly.
Training area and The golem are your best friends
Great channel 👏
Raids are really fun, but I usually hate playing with people from USA. They're so obsessed with hurrying people...same as fractales
im now seeing this 3 years later...i miss 1 man alacrigade T_T no matter how bad i was, people loved me cause i had 1 job no one else wanted XD
Ty so much
I see you made good use of that thumbnail.!
Boy that banner section aged like some fine milk 😂
Looks like fun in both. Rather watch your vids than try and past the narcissistic team leads.
looking to return to game after 2 years out
When is the guide for how to say your name coming out
I'm imagining a close up of Dennis's mouth sounding out every word irritatingly slowly.
Asking LI to a strike mission is like asking CM KP for fractal recs
Learning Druid, So frost spirit is 5% more dps for power builds? How about sun spirit? Should you take them if you have both condi and power dmg in the team? Pick based on that? Also is Stone Spirit more for Fractals or? Just want to learn
Might hit you up on the Discord for training. Legit know W1-5, but haven't completed W6 or W7, and wanna get 'em done before static forms.
I want to get into raids, but every squad I join ends up kicking me at the last second.
XD what is he saying in the intro?
Mukluk dukluk splot following the original squad the fourth here??
I want to do raids, but only for mastery points (I'm collecting them all)... Any tips on finding groups that'll accept someone who has never done these before
Those people are definitely insane
Such a "shame" that Mukluk plays on NA servers. Would have liked to practiced raids with him :) (EU)
Will you maybe make a new version of this in the near future with the balance patch changes? Or not until the new expansion/new elites come out?
Which class is the "druid" im new to gw2. I thought there was 9 classes.
doing raids its not friendly at all, if you dont have the requierements the guild says you must have you arent welcomed , very discouraging.
I'm not going to touch raids until they make a variant of them that players can anonymously queue into.
WoW did something like that, allowed you to pick a role and queue, and for once I was able to play content that I hadn't touched for a decade.
Hey Muk,
I just watched this video and it really helped. Thanks! Are you still doing Raid training? If so how do I signup on Discord I don't see the signup like you showed in the video?
Hey Keyon, I don't do it as often as I used to, but there are still groups on our discord that go VERY frequently, check the #gw2-na-lfg-channel or #gw2-eu-lfg channel (depending on your region) on the discord.
do we need any expansions to join raid or strikes??
You do need the HoT expansion to access W1-4 and PoF to access W5-7, in the end you should get both since you need elite specs in Raids(unless your good with Core Guardian and Engineer)
@@Mannetasi you are a year late bro i left the game
Now.. get rid of KP/LI system and after 7 years of playing i might actually have a chance joining this content atlast.
Took me around 6 month, maybe youre doing something wrong
@@wpeiorfjmoaeksfimpreigfmkpaois Well i simply see LI/KP requirements and i can't join. Joined some training guilds but apparently they all have statics and are not really training new people. When it comes to skill/dps/healing i'm way more then fine after all these years. Mechanics tho.. yea.. still havent watched all raid mechanics. So basically just stuck in T4 for over 4 years now. That's the "endgame" content that i got stuck with.
peeps talking about 20K+ dps, seeing vids of people doing 80k+ dps, meanwhile I just finally hit level 80: Don't have enough hero points to max out my class and do like 500 dps
wtf is this game
This is all great but I dont have the time or will to have to tweak every bit of my build to up ease other players. I want to go in kick ass and get out with a reward. That is why I like to play solo. If I f*k up I am the only one that loses and I will just try again.
Yh same. I have pretty much maxed out my gear with the exception of legendary stuff (which to my knowledge is just cosmetic + being able to switch stats at any time) but my current stats are kinda spread out so I'm passable with most attributes but I'm not amazing with anything except maybe condi is slightly better than the other attributes but not amazingly powerful. because back in the days the only thing running through my mind was 'will this help keep me alive?' and 'me like traps - me add condi stats'
well everyone understands that but if you like to play solo then raids aren't for you. You can play other things.
What is that Website? Lol you can see all info.
Raided in swtor/wow and ffxiv and the highest level getting into gw2 raiding seems impossible. Literally can gear up in 1 day and do ultimate in ffxiv i think more mmos need to look up the ease of getting into more content and not making it so grindy just to do endgame. This whole hardcore mmo thing is played out and most of us have jobs irl, I bet gw2 raid community is smol and toxic.
Me:
"I bet gw2 raid community is smol and toxic"
Me: :(
Hey Muk, what about agony resistance? I know that raids have agony mechanics.
Some do, but it's a different kind of agony. AR doesn't help whatsoever.
The Agony Resist stat from agony infusions is only used for fractals. Any abilities in raids called "agony" is just coincidence.
"after your very first raid boss kill"
should say -
"after your very first raid boss kill in Heart of Thorns"
i joined a w7 raid and never got my start to the mastery.