I hit like as the first thing I do, it doesnt even feel normal to wait for the prompt. Your casting is so natural, witty, enteryaiing and just full of love for the game. You are the caster who brought me back into watching SC2 after Husky ghosted us and frankly I dont want to watch anyone else.
Loved your videos way back in the day, and rediscovered my love for StarCraft lately between you and UThermal, bringing fun and joy back into what I think is one of the greatest games ever made
59:57 Been a long viewer and hell yeah I think like the say about the wine gets better with time. I can humbly say I feel you totally did too. You're for sure making my day better. Loving your casts and commentary Winter. Sometimes I hear comments from you that are innovative and funny, you truly surpass yourself, and stay fresh. Love your casts, as always thank you for keeping the SC2 flame lit and strong for me at least.
Game 1 looked like a more patient Clem than even a year or so back. Coulda sworn he'd just push through with his initial success rather than patiently grinding down the opponent.
Clem needs to theory craft a way to weave in some ghosts for nukes if he is going to play like that. Probably only possible for one game in a series and on certain maps but sometimes all he needs is one game.
****Minor, minor spoiler*** ---Brenda's Spoiler Wall--- ++++++++++++++++++++ I'm not even sure how you defend that pressure in game 2. I guess you smash the roach button and split up your forces better? That was nasty.
I will admit I have this odd bias against Terran and we DID just watch dark do a TVZ reverse sweep HOWEVER isn't it a little crazy like in game 5, how Terran can basically be reduced down to nothing and yet still be able to hold on for as long as they can? I mean maybe not but could again just me being a hater lol idk just my thoughts, great games this series.
there was no way clem was winning that game 5, dark had the entire map covered in creep and had 75% of the bases, it took a while to kill his army sure but that game was in the bag
@@Terracronz that’s what I mean, you can control the entire map, have the entire Economy, the army supply, the position, and Terran STILL can live for like another ten minutes. Too me it’s silly tbh.
Winter, you casting and uploading to UA-cam is the equivalent for me ring the bell…. Your calendar reminder to upload and my UA-cam app remind me to watch…
i use to watch loco and harstem casts as well as winter, but it got too confusing once i figured out that the 3 of you guys would sometimes cast the same games. i would be 15 min into a cast then remember i already watched the entire thing a day ago. it got really annoying. so now i exclusively watch winter. He"s the only casters that makes me do that little laugh where you breath air quickly out your nose and it happens nearly every video i watch. you do indeed make my day better winter thank you!
Its so sad that nobody in zerg can compare to serral. The overall skill level of the top zerg are just a league away from him. Yes they have other strengths and tactics and can make different plays. But nobody is as consistently godlike as serral. When you watch these matches you know its always 50/50 that zerg wins unless the enemy is playing a meta build in which case it favors them. With serral you know it always favors him. Its a shock when he loses. Its never a shock when other zergs lose. Serral just plays so well its hard to see the other zergs.
I prefer the battle mech death ball over the 16 stim marine/medivac with 2 tanks push. Better for my mmr to get that earlier push on the 3rd rather than trying to cancel the 4th.
Noticed in the first two games, no infestors, no vipers, no lurkers Zerg loses. Next three games Dark, gets infestors and vipers and lurkers, zerg obliterates with ease. Am I saying these units are overpowered? /shrug. Just pointing out a fact.
Dark builds roaches and burrow as consistently as anyone else, but never burrows his roaches to heal after trades. He'd get a bit more cost effectiveness out of them.
I think the issue with burrow healing is in these type of pro match up is the fast pace and required focus can lead to them forgetting the burrowed roaches, just my speculation.
Can you make a video breaking down openers by popularity in the different matchups? I think it wpuld be good clickbait content with a tierlist and some red arrows
Si, it's just Winter's way of introducing players. And since everyone kinda has a unique thing that they do more often than not you can get a wide amount of variety. Even in TvT like with Cure v Gumiho.
seeing a MMM spammer lose bring a smile to my face. Future patch will be titled to terran favor again and more nerfs to Zerg and Protoss while they are at it lol.
Wow, the last game was actually and the only interesting one. I hate bio, so fking boring, just poke, retreat, poke, retreat, poke, retreat. I wonder why Clem didn't siege up on the cliff with his first tanks... Players have never paid much attention to the maps in SC2.
Terran needs cryo nukes to freeze creep and larva growth to slow down zerg late game because at high mmr just look at that game 5 late LOL. My other solution was cap the number of creep tumors per hatchery/lair/hive. Terran has to win in the mid game or they fall behind. Winter even joked about the 300 economy zerg which isn't too far off. Played optimally they are the best race , because the queens can repell early timing attacks and then they replace and expand faster than Terran or Protoss and have units that just counter heavy untis. Pull you in, fungal you, spore blinding cloud, and then lurkers just tanky and high damage and if you notice they burrow(basically sieging up) and attack faster than siege tanks for a comparable unit which is a bit odd imo.
maybe learn to use snipe or ghosts in general god forbid you cant learn to use your one unit that counters literally everything from toss and zerg. Absolute giga brain take you got here. Fool.
early to mid game though, you can't do anything against those medievacs, they can be anywhere, kill stuff in half a second (or drop another imba unit in form of a mine) and get away unscathed, wtf? should clearly get nerfed. Protos at least have blink-stalkers or fenixes to catch, zerg has nothing
@@Conquistador2161 Yea but if you watch the game they can't really do critical damage unless your defense is sloppy. I learned just space the queens so they quickly get to where they need to be and maybe build a spore on the weakside. Once you get a 4th it becomes harder to stop medi drops but just keep injecting and worrying about out pacing the terran or protoss. Tumor spread important as well. They will harass and kill shit but unless you really mess up it won't matter because your economy is too good. Play like Dark's style (obviously your APM's and micro are not as good but just the macro will really help) and you will win most games. Zerg have plenty of tools to win its about the swarm. All three games he won, he defended and then counter pushed with a massive swarm. That style is zerg 101. You have to learn what counters what in those big fights and scouting is key. On many maps they have those "pervert pillars" as Winter calls them lol and you can scout better a it stops vision. Zerg is the best race for sure if both players are of equal skill because they win in the utility and supply department and many people don't really see that as a strength but if you play to your strength its very strong.
you dont need to sub you just need to watch the vids or talk about the content for it to appear. most of the creators i sub to dont even show in my feed
@7:10 Clem as a Frenchman, is quite experienced at eliminating large amounts of queens 😂😂😂😂
let them eat pie!
puntastic
I love your puns and play on word. Favorite caster for SC2! 'Clem as a frenchman is used to eliminate lots of queens' :D
I hit like as the first thing I do, it doesnt even feel normal to wait for the prompt. Your casting is so natural, witty, enteryaiing and just full of love for the game. You are the caster who brought me back into watching SC2 after Husky ghosted us and frankly I dont want to watch anyone else.
C'mon you gotta give wardi a chance too. He's the perfect energy level to fall asleep to 😅 (it's not an insult, I love that about it)
Winter, you do make my days a little bit better. Thanks for doing what you do. Jimmy too
Winter on Angry Coach and Low APM: never build panic zerglings
Dark: and I built 122 zerglings
Loved your videos way back in the day, and rediscovered my love for StarCraft lately between you and UThermal, bringing fun and joy back into what I think is one of the greatest games ever made
I saw "MECH TERRAN" pop up on my notifications and came as fast as I could
"Dark" usually does it for me but yes mech is great
Haha. And then Avilo's game pops out 😂
Can we just appreciate the next gen Viper frontline juicebox - the consume on nydus?
I've been watching your casts for three years and yes , they've gotten better and I enjoy them. Thanks, from a loyal subscriber.
A simple rule. In ZvT, always root for the Zerg to crush the boring MMMM style. If the terran goes mech, however.... you gotta root for them
that clem queen joke💀
I choked laughing 😂😂😂
Time stamp?
7:02
I died
I wonder if something like this would be appropriate in a live tournament casting scenario...
The commentary on this one actually had me laughing out loud at multiple points. Thanks for making my day that much bettsr
"Some of the marines and marauders ran off here." - Winter. I laugh way too hard at that. Still laughing.
That french joke hit like a siege tank
I want to see Clem win a WC so badly. He has proven so many times in the past he has the potential to do so.
Clem or serral for his legend
Clem doesn't do well in offline tournaments for some reason. He becomes less consistent compared to his online form.
@@N0noy1989stage fright maybe hmm
Yeah but Maru the goat still don't got one🥲🥲🥲🥲
sic! lone
Love you winter and your casting is what got me watching starcraft!
59:57 Been a long viewer and hell yeah I think like the say about the wine gets better with time. I can humbly say I feel you totally did too.
You're for sure making my day better.
Loving your casts and commentary Winter.
Sometimes I hear comments from you that are innovative and funny, you truly surpass yourself, and stay fresh.
Love your casts, as always thank you for keeping the SC2 flame lit and strong for me at least.
after 2 min 50sec, I want everyone to pet their zergling plush. Because the good bois did well enough.
Love your commentary! Thanks for putting in so much work.
Clem’s Target fire, man.
Bong rip anyone?
Game 1 looked like a more patient Clem than even a year or so back. Coulda sworn he'd just push through with his initial success rather than patiently grinding down the opponent.
Insight and entertainment, the wombo combo. Great casting!
We need to like the videos to support this man. He's too good
"As a frenchman has experience eliminating queens" OMG LOL
My day is definitely a lot better, thank you
I think more accurately the queens asked Dark how much larva he needed and he just responded, YES! So the queen just sprayed everything lol
Also. About blinding cloud: A real army would continue firing. despite not seeing anything.
Clem needs to theory craft a way to weave in some ghosts for nukes if he is going to play like that. Probably only possible for one game in a series and on certain maps but sometimes all he needs is one game.
****Minor, minor spoiler***
---Brenda's Spoiler Wall---
++++++++++++++++++++
I'm not even sure how you defend that pressure in game 2. I guess you smash the roach button and split up your forces better? That was nasty.
"I watch less UA-cam than you guys, no offence" Well I wasn't offended until you said that! xD
Men with drugs and guns. Not much has changed for the terrans in almost 1000 years 😅😅😅
"I know you play a MOBA but at least you watch SC2..." thank you for for easing the blow to my ego hahah I love you Winter
Winter we appreciate you!
Your witty commentary and pleasant voice are great!
Keep it up buddy 👍
Cyclone has been upgraded from worthless to useless 😂
at least you still saw them been made till now, how many times you saw swarm-host in the game nowdays?
Except Ricky the Accidental swarm host
@@bekasiblis9540 but but but dark makes them consistently
I can't believe the mass cyclones lol
Dark is just terrifying.
Even though feedback got nerfed years ago… loving the content! You’re the most entertaining caster for sure.
For the record Winter, your disdain for your fans is one of your better qualities as a streamer.
I will admit I have this odd bias against Terran and we DID just watch dark do a TVZ reverse sweep HOWEVER isn't it a little crazy like in game 5, how Terran can basically be reduced down to nothing and yet still be able to hold on for as long as they can? I mean maybe not but could again just me being a hater lol idk just my thoughts, great games this series.
there was no way clem was winning that game 5, dark had the entire map covered in creep and had 75% of the bases, it took a while to kill his army sure but that game was in the bag
@@Terracronz that’s what I mean, you can control the entire map, have the entire Economy, the army supply, the position, and Terran STILL can live for like another ten minutes. Too me it’s silly tbh.
It’s ridiculous. Terran the only race that can do that.
i like having the bell actually, i see on my phone when my favourite youtubers upload a video (including lowko and you)
Winter, you casting and uploading to UA-cam is the equivalent for me ring the bell…. Your calendar reminder to upload and my UA-cam app remind me to watch…
"Dark will be in the himself about this" 😂
Another great cast, Thanks!
Yes, having a good day now!
i use to watch loco and harstem casts as well as winter, but it got too confusing once i figured out that the 3 of you guys would sometimes cast the same games. i would be 15 min into a cast then remember i already watched the entire thing a day ago. it got really annoying. so now i exclusively watch winter.
He"s the only casters that makes me do that little laugh where you breath air quickly out your nose and it happens nearly every video i watch. you do indeed make my day better winter thank you!
Good stuff man
Its so sad that nobody in zerg can compare to serral. The overall skill level of the top zerg are just a league away from him. Yes they have other strengths and tactics and can make different plays. But nobody is as consistently godlike as serral.
When you watch these matches you know its always 50/50 that zerg wins unless the enemy is playing a meta build in which case it favors them.
With serral you know it always favors him. Its a shock when he loses. Its never a shock when other zergs lose. Serral just plays so well its hard to see the other zergs.
dark was d.lcking around in the last game with overwhelming advantage but not finishing the game.
Winter should just write when its not a dark game that he is covering (not saying that I find it bad, love dark)
I'm betting on, you'll probably cast another series anyway.
When the map is aggressively standard, you need to play weird so you don't get bored.
Always great casting 👌
I prefer the battle mech death ball over the 16 stim marine/medivac with 2 tanks push. Better for my mmr to get that earlier push on the 3rd rather than trying to cancel the 4th.
Jimmy woke me up with a txt, said winter counts on my view and like, so here I am 😊
i like how jimmy is always updated on the number of needed likes
You are right Winter, I am watching too much UA-cam. Got that cut that down, where to start 🤔🤔🤔
"Dark will be... in himself about this"
I love this kind of idiotic banter.
Noticed in the first two games, no infestors, no vipers, no lurkers Zerg loses. Next three games Dark, gets infestors and vipers and lurkers, zerg obliterates with ease. Am I saying these units are overpowered? /shrug. Just pointing out a fact.
Dark builds roaches and burrow as consistently as anyone else, but never burrows his roaches to heal after trades. He'd get a bit more cost effectiveness out of them.
I think the issue with burrow healing is in these type of pro match up is the fast pace and required focus can lead to them forgetting the burrowed roaches, just my speculation.
Imagine the healing/cyclone lock on breaking utility if he got it early to counter the mass cyclone
didnt they get rid of that years ago
@@alexmaragh7766no, they just greatly reduced the healing. They still heal much faster
Oh I lost it at "He lost 4 Marines: GG unwinnable"
Great cast!
Mech Clem...when Clem is more Mech the Gumiho, its a weird world we live in
Gumiho still mechs better, heh.
3rd game is because dark didn’t rush speedlings which is extremelye costly economically m
Thanks ! I didn know about that youtube extension to return dislike view :)
Thank youuuuu ❤
EVERY drop heavy game, if the zerg builds hydras they at least have a fighting chance, yet so many times they don't do it...
Thank You
Om nom nom
Can you make a video breaking down openers by popularity in the different matchups? I think it wpuld be good clickbait content with a tierlist and some red arrows
“Dark will be in the himself about this…”😅
I'm betting on Clem today
Zerg.
Anybody surprised?
Would you do a scion mode cast?
My guy thinks Nydus Worms tunnel underground. Lol
You can tunnel to floating bases. To floating bases.
Reverse sweep
Al-sai-uh-nee
I would love to give some feedback but I dont have 50 energy
yanks more tanks rhymes.... so it must be true
Men with drugs and guns, just like the fates foretold!
Betting on Dark.
I love mechdonalds
ok somewhat medium time watcher and dumb question, those cards with all the buffs on them in the intro are just for the lolz right
Si, it's just Winter's way of introducing players. And since everyone kinda has a unique thing that they do more often than not you can get a wide amount of variety. Even in TvT like with Cure v Gumiho.
Europe's Best Terran vs Korea's Best Zerg
Clem been taking some Ls lately. Hopefully he'll get back on track with this series
I think he's trying to step away from mmmmm and this is cool, bad thing is that mech terran isn't so good
it's disgusting how OP is Terran, I'm getting tired of this game
Clem is just Byun only skinnier shorter and with healthy wrists.
nailed it
seeing a MMM spammer lose bring a smile to my face. Future patch will be titled to terran favor again and more nerfs to Zerg and Protoss while they are at it lol.
Darrrrrrrk 💜
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Land liberators 😂😂😂😂
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Wow, the last game was actually and the only interesting one. I hate bio, so fking boring, just poke, retreat, poke, retreat, poke, retreat.
I wonder why Clem didn't siege up on the cliff with his first tanks... Players have never paid much attention to the maps in SC2.
I still think terran players are playing like shit.........until cash is on the line.
Terran needs cryo nukes to freeze creep and larva growth to slow down zerg late game because at high mmr just look at that game 5 late LOL. My other solution was cap the number of creep tumors per hatchery/lair/hive. Terran has to win in the mid game or they fall behind. Winter even joked about the 300 economy zerg which isn't too far off. Played optimally they are the best race , because the queens can repell early timing attacks and then they replace and expand faster than Terran or Protoss and have units that just counter heavy untis. Pull you in, fungal you, spore blinding cloud, and then lurkers just tanky and high damage and if you notice they burrow(basically sieging up) and attack faster than siege tanks for a comparable unit which is a bit odd imo.
maybe learn to use snipe or ghosts in general god forbid you cant learn to use your one unit that counters literally everything from toss and zerg. Absolute giga brain take you got here. Fool.
early to mid game though, you can't do anything against those medievacs, they can be anywhere, kill stuff in half a second (or drop another imba unit in form of a mine) and get away unscathed, wtf? should clearly get nerfed. Protos at least have blink-stalkers or fenixes to catch, zerg has nothing
@@Conquistador2161 Yea but if you watch the game they can't really do critical damage unless your defense is sloppy. I learned just space the queens so they quickly get to where they need to be and maybe build a spore on the weakside. Once you get a 4th it becomes harder to stop medi drops but just keep injecting and worrying about out pacing the terran or protoss. Tumor spread important as well. They will harass and kill shit but unless you really mess up it won't matter because your economy is too good. Play like Dark's style (obviously your APM's and micro are not as good but just the macro will really help) and you will win most games.
Zerg have plenty of tools to win its about the swarm. All three games he won, he defended and then counter pushed with a massive swarm. That style is zerg 101. You have to learn what counters what in those big fights and scouting is key. On many maps they have those "pervert pillars" as Winter calls them lol and you can scout better a it stops vision. Zerg is the best race for sure if both players are of equal skill because they win in the utility and supply department and many people don't really see that as a strength but if you play to your strength its very strong.
Must always root against Terran. Terran know they are op >
you dont need to sub
you just need to watch the vids or talk about the content for it to appear. most of the creators i sub to dont even show in my feed
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