If only the OG Xbox team went through with their plan for DreamCast backwards compatibility... It would be so wild if those games could run on modern Xboxes too
I did some reading on this and wish I would have talked about it on the vid! SEGA approached MS and proposed for the Xbox to play DC games and MS denied the request. Just makes me even more sad than I already am regarding the death of the Dreamcast )':
The issue is making the disc drive GD-ROM compatible. That was already a fairly tall order back then but it's pretty much impossible now. Unless the Backwards compatible DC titles are digital only but that defeats the purpose of using copies of your old games.
@@Shanmania This was the old MS. With Phil Spender and Satya Nutella we already had this as part of BC. At least they're allowing emulators through the backdoor
Ever since Sony ripped the PS2 backwards compatibility out of the PS3, they don't want you playing older games, because you're not buying new games then. They're only doing it now as they found a way to make you pay for old games.
Kids today won't understand how awesome the CD ripping was for the Xbox. Need custom playlists of soundtrack music for your D&D game and your PC with Winamp is in another room? Boom. Soundtracks on TV. Playing a wrestling game and want the latest Nickelback or Creed song for your entrance? Bam! Custom entrance music! That HDD was a game changer
Yup filled up the h.d. Within a week of buying og Xbox, then the Xbox crashed and died, took it back and went nuts at the bloke behind the counter saying that I’d put all my cd’s on the Xbox and sold the cd’s and now I haven’t got any music!!! He offered me a limited edition green Xbox which I’ve still got in the attic !!! Now I use a series s !!! Peace out from the police state of north Wales 🏴
the backwards compatibility stuff is why these systems are my preferred choice of console, even if im not going to actually play some of these old games a lot having them available as an option is really important to me
I think what we've learned from these consoles is it might be the most underused feature of the new consoles. Most people don't spend $500 on a brand new console to play games available on a $40 dollar console. Like is this the reason the dashboard still has yet to be updated? I think most people would appreciate that more.
as a low-budget gamer, I get most of my games secondhand from thrift stores, so a lot of them are Xbox 360 games that I'm playing on my Xbox One. I love backwards compatibility!
Thing is tho. I don’t get why some use it as a argument because only around 76 or so original Xbox games are compatible and only 633 out of 2,155 games for 360 that are compatible
i had a game destroyed because my dog walked passed the TV, got his leg snagged on the controller wire, and panic-fled, yanking the whole console from the entertainment center, and making the game freeze because my PS2 didn't have breakaway cables. It honestly was a welcome addition to gaming from my perspective.
I was playing black ops with my grandpa and his dog decided to bite down on the power cable of my xb360 and he got shocked, freaked out but couldn't un clench his jaw and then my Xbox fell off the table!!! He was okay though, still alive today and I took my black ops to blockbuster and they fixed the scratch 😎
The biggest issue I have with back compat on Xbox one and the Series X is that it's fully reliant on having an internet connection. The game disc aren't being utilised to play the game, they're just an acces key to download a digital emulated version. This means at some point in the future these console will lose their back compat ability.
@@sigg7776 My point was that if you haven't already downoaded the back compat builds of games there is no way of playing those games on a console that isn't connected to the internet. Meaning that back compat on Xbox one and series s/x is just a temporary service.
I believe this was recently changed.. for some games. I played Rainbow Six Seige, with my system offline from when I first put the disc in to when I booted it up (I wanted to play V1 of the game fyi)
The only thing Microsoft should do is add a System on a Chip for the Xbox and the Xbox 360, just so that games that can't be emulated due to licensing reasons can still legally be played on these systems, but given the age of those two consoles, I don't know if Microsoft would be willing to go that route. And I hope that their next systems down the line offer the same compatibility that they have now, and not drop any of it. I don't know if the Xbox One is emulated, or if the Series X is simply a souped up Xbox One, but I hope that Microsoft maintains a 100% backwards compatibility rate for all of their future systems.
Only thing I can think of is how expensive those chips can be. Prolly the reason they didn't do it before. (And yeah, I think the Series is just a more powerful One, the OS is pretty darn similar and One games run natively on Series)
The Xbox 360 used sheer will and emulation to emulate the Xbox. It's been described by those involved as the toughest thing they've ever done. If it was possible then, I'm sure the Series X could play those games easily. Especially considering how it plays GCN games in developer mode.
The issue isn't that some games aren't emulatable due to licensing its just that Microsoft wants to use backwards compatibility to resell older games and so would need the licence hence why original Xbox on Xbox 360 supports half of the library whereas on Xbox One it doesn't.
@@cyberredpandas1903 Yet some 360 games are delisted but are still backwards compatible like Mortal Kombat 9 and King Kong. There really just needs to be a whitelist emulator so I can play Tony Hawk 3 on the Series X like I could on the 360.
I remember years ago two of my friends had one X360 each, so one day we made a group of 7 and attempted to link up both consoles to have a MW2 lan party. We spent hours trying to work that out, but without success. Now that I think of it, it might have been because one of the consoles was hardware modded.
Funny story: I got a 4GB 360 S Kinect bundle back in 2011 and for the longest time, I was confused when I couldn't access certain features or play original Xbox games due to "lacking a hard drive". When Xbox One came out along with the Games with Gold program, I had to keep asking my parents to buy flash drives to download the games as the store wouldn't allow you to purchase games when you didn't have the room to download it. After finding out about the attachable hard drives, I thought my console didn't support them as it didn't have the grey plate sticking out of it. Finally after watching this video, I took a closer look at my 360 and found a latch revealing the hard drive slot I've been wanting for all these years. Just got a hard drive on ebay and can't wait to play all these games I've been missing out on ever since my original Xbox died.
As someone who used to swap hard drives with friends all the time with my 250gb Xbox 360 S (which I still own to this day and it still works great), your comment made me chuckle lol. Yeah it blends in pretty well if you don't know it's there. It always puzzled me why Microsoft sold a 360 with no hard drive at all, considering that's about the time where they gave you the option to install your games to run faster, and as you said, many functionalities are only possible with a hard drive. It's also a bad spot for the hard drive slot because it accumulates an insane amount of dust inside. I opened mine up recently after the console sat for years on my entertainment center and the dust bunnies came spilling out with it lol
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow at the time hard drives were extremely expensive, and were proprietary to the xbox 360, so they released hard driveless versions for people that wanted to game but didnt care/couldnt really utilize the install feature. i was one who had the arcade 360 and was perfectly fine with my little memory unit they gave me. It allowed me to save halo 3 and call of duty saves, along with my avatar and id simply bring it to my friends house and copy everything to his xbox hard drive and in future visits everything would be synched through the magic of internet synchronization lol i eventually got an xbox elite and still found myself using my memory unti to transfer shit over to my friends and vice versa. hard drives werent so important back then
MS ending the OG Xbox/360 backwards compatible program is one of the saddest days in video game history for me. It was so cool when these older games would get FPS boost and other cool features. I know, I know, there are lots of ways to play older games with enhancements. But it was just such a cool feature to be built into the console. I still play Hydro Thunder every week on my Series X. That game rocks.
oh my god. I haven't heard that name in years I used to play hydro thunder hurricane like it was the only game in my xbox when I was a kid, I remember it was the demo version from the xbox store so I could only play a small selection of levels but still got tons of fun out of it
It drives me nuts with the amount of games that I have that aren't supported by the backwards compatibility. They have definitely had enough years to get atleast the whole og library ported over by now...
They also stated that the tech and methods used up to that point were reaching there limits. Recently there has been talks of the backwards compatibility team working on those new methods and systems to hopefully deal with the situation of the Xbox 360 online store finally shutting its doors July 24, 2024
At 13:13 you said that Microsoft is still adding games to backwards compatibility on Xbox One and Series X, they actually ended the program in November 2021. So unfortunately we will never officially be able to play Sneak King on XSX upscaled to 4K as God intended.
@@Shanmania The wording they used in that announcement was vague, and implied they would restart the program later under different restrictions. For example, all OGX games playable on XB1 had to also be added to the 360 marketplace.
With the ABK merger a bunch of licenses would have come into Xbox's hands meaning they might have a way to get a few more titles into the back compat program. Personally I would like to see Singularity and the Prototype games added.
yes and no. Since most people use steam, controllers are all mapped via steaminput and are all the same. for playstation controller supported games it is bad but otherwise so much easier for anything on linux.
@@Great-Documentaries I think the million plus Steam Decks sold beg to differ. I've been gaming on Linux for about 2 years now, there are definitely some hiccups but it's a pretty smooth experience in general
I remember the original Xbox was the first DVD player my family ever had, and despite it being a gift for me, my family used it quite a bit to watch DVDs. Much to my teenage chagrin, but it was the first and last time my family would use a video game console. The plus side is that we still had those old 90s style big screen TV with the huge backs. Pain in the ass to carry if you're moving, but damn if it didn't have great visual fidelity and high audio quality. Getting the Xbox 360 and being able to play most of my original xbox games was a huge boon to me. Got to play lots of games later on that I missed out the first time, like Stubbs the Zombie. Also, I love the Duke. All hail the DUKE!
SAME. I got the Xbox December 2001. A month after release and within a month got the DVD playback kit. It was our first DvD player. It wasn't common to have one since a standalone player was like $500
Kinda sad Series S doesn't benefit enough of physical media due to it not having a disk drive to begin with, but for some info, Microsoft had a patent made since 2022 last year for a disk drive of some sort for the Series S but nothing has came from that since. Hopefully it's made and we can benefit from physical media again since the only way for us to benefit from BC is either their BC paid program or even the new Xenia port from a bit ago.
If the rumored PS5 model with the detachable hard drive is true, then maybe Xbox will respond to it somehow with the Series S. It's not like they haven't done it before; they had an external HD-DVD drive for the 360.
@@jimmythegamer2231 I think he may be confusing it with Game Pass (rip $1 deal). BC has always been free from Ms hasn't it? At least since the excel/lotus 1 2 3 days.
10:43 Honestly, the idea is pretty neat and I would kill for companies to provide external DDs for their consoles, so if you don't have enough cash for a model with a DD, you can buy the one without then eventually purchase a DD for the device.
That actually could be the route future Sony and Microsoft consoles take. PS5 Digital and Xbox Series S are smaller and cheaper to manufacture and buy than their disc-reading counterparts, to the point YEARS after release, the disc units are still a bitch to get ahold of. So making the next generation digital only, but with an option to buy a disc drive external peripheral [or even internal], and then only big budget games would get physical releases, while stuff like indies and games companies aren't 100% certain of sales in, would be digital only. PCs have already been doing this for a while, optical discs are so rarely used for modern software that most PCs no longer come with a disc drive installed, which is still weird to me.
13:13 Microsoft stated that they were done adding new backwards compatible titles to the One/Series X/S in 2021, along with a massive batch of new titles and new enhancements.
This news sucked personally, but at the same time they also explained that aside from Licensing issues the tech up until that point had reach its limits for tasks. At the very least I hold out the team do something about older games since the 360 online store is shutting down July of next year :(
One little Factoid about the OG Xbox DVD kit. It wasn't *just* an IR receiver. That receiver also contained the DVD player program itself, and more importantly, the license to use it. Microsoft didn't want to pay the DVD license fee for every single Xbox they produced back then, so they only paid for it for each set of IR receiver and remote they produced instead. It also contained the DVD player software so people who didn't have an internet connection could still use the program.
The backwards and forwards compatibility of Xbox one is fabulous. I bought a plain xbox one from my cousin for cheap a couple years ago, and between some of the fabulous xbox 360 games and the newest games coming out, I can play most of them, though the lack of modern hardware is definitely noticeable on new games.
@@Minnevan played and nearly 100%’d High on Life when it dropped on Game Pass back before my Xbox One (Advanced Warfare Ed. w/ 1TB HDD) died on me. Trust me, it’s not even that important unless you’re one of those 120 FPS/ 1440p and Up Resolution PC Players that can’t even enjoy a game vanilla. It, along with Elden Ring, Forza Horizon 5, and Psychonauts 2 looked and ran well on my dumpy 2014 Xbox One ☝🏽 While I own a Series S now and really want the Series X to play my BC games the way they’re meant to be played…Microsoft ensured that the games ran very well AS IS on every Xbox One for a reason. Even to the point of cancelling Scalebound, since it made the base Xbox One look very weak (my personal theory) 🤷🏽♂️
@@MinnevanI mean buying Xbox one games isn’t bad at all, mostly because it’s backwards compatible anyways, games on Xbone is still XBSX Game anyways I buy Xbone, 360, even original Xbox games and I missed all of their eras
Very insightful, wish I'd still had the 360 vision camera knocking about in 2020! I thought Microsoft had stopped adding new back compat games to the Series consoles though?
@@lawrenceinthis is true, licensing issues and tech limitations had them announce the last games for the time being it. I sure hope something is being done about it tho, there’s rumors something could be happening 2024 because the 360 online store is shutting down
You forgot to mention there's a caveat to backwards compatibility on XB1 and XBSX, and it is that you need an internet connexion. If you put a disc in your console it will ask you to "download an update", and it will download the game from the internet. The games won't be played from the original DVD. It is somewhat bad for game preservation, because if Microsoft decides to shut down the servers storing these games we won't be able to play previous generation games on the newer hardware. Great vid though
One of the things that I have learned about the backwards compatibility is, if it was an Xbox 360 game originally and was ported to the Xbox one then the 360 version is not necessarily going to be backwards compatible you'll have to play the Xbox One version, but then there's 360 games that were never converted over and those are going to be the ones that are going to be backwards compatible as 360 games vice versa.
Just take Battlefield 4 for instance, it originally came out for the 360 but then got ported over to the Xbox One the 360 version is not going to work in the backwards compatibility the Xbox One version will, because it's only Xbox 360 games in Xbox original games that are limited all Xbox One games will work on an Xbox series X and S.
In the year of 2008 the Xbox 360 arcade model was the best model to buy and then get a hard drive separately as it was the first model on the market that featured the newly updated computer chips and as a result was the only Xbox that would not red ring! It is the model I have and it still works to this very day it is a beast I have taken it apart over 20 times just to clean it up get it reading discs again and put it back together and I’ve loved every moment I’ve had with it I also painted mine black and did a flawless job, because I took a halo limited-edition shell from halo three which already had the black center power button and all I had to do was put masking tape around that and then paint the rest of the consul black and so it looks pretty legit
i keep my old xbox around mainly for Crimson Skies. after seeing it pop up a few times in this video, i have to go play it. how on earth has there been no follow-up game? it's awesome!
Microsoft is absolutely the king of compatibility, for computers in general. I don't think I've seen anything else where you can launch an executable from nearly 3 decades ago on modern hardware and have it work right away in most cases, it's great.
I think Vista was the first OS to keep old versions of DLLs to improve kompatibility. With older Windows versions an updated library could break existing software easily.
Papa Phil Spencer is the only way Sonic Unleashed can now basically fully run at 60fps with the Series X/S. (Still waiting for the resolution bump, Sonic Unleashed looks pretty poor with its aliased 880x720, a 4k or even 1440p res bump would make it the definitive Sonic Unleashed experience)
@@JoSephGD (I didn't even though you replied to me, YT didn't give a notification, so sorry for the late reply) I mean technically, you're right, it is the definitive edition since it's runs at a stable 60fps, but I wish the game was 4k or even 1440p, since I think the 880x720 aliased resolution looks hideous, and Sega won't port it to PC with higher res (or even source quality) textures and a customizable resolution, so even with the sometimes questionable texture quality and no mods, I'll happily be satisfied with a resolution bump.
The OG Xbox and the time that it prospered shortly after it came out, was one of my favorite video game machines of all time and I have countless memories of playing some of the greatest games ever that generation on my new Xbox!! That’s why I’m such a hard-core Xbox fan today! Playing games like halo on endless nights with my best friend and a few other buddies and then games like soul Calibur later on and the Sega GT games that came to Xbox shortly after the Dreamcast died was just such a great time to be alive and then the final game that I got for mine which was the best version of it you could play at the time, was none other than Grandtheft auto San Andreas and we had an Xbox with about 2000 hours worth of music tracks on it that would play custom soundtrack with the game soundtrack together at the same time(we had all the songs that were already in the game on the Xbox also) so that while you were playing that wonderful amazing for the time game, never once would you hear the same song twice in a single play session!!! There’s just so many things that could do that people don’t give it credit for just like the PlayStation vita, another system I adore…
I also noticed that but I wondered if he meant performance boost for games with unlocked frame rates, in which the one and one X would provide that due to the natural extra power overhead.
@@whereistheguru. I also recall other One X enhanced features. Like better detailing, fps, etc. It was more or less dynamic and not a button like what the series line can get.
@@FirestormDDash 16x anisotropic filtering is applied to all back-compat games, as well as forced V-Sync and faster loadings of course. Other than that, there are also game-specific things like much better LOD in The Witcher 2.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but another interesting backwards compatibility issue is the guitar hero games. I recently went back out and rebought a 360 when I hooked up my guitar hero controller and found out they don't work on any of the new gens, one or series x. This is pretty much the only reason I keep a 360 around
Good video for the peripherals, different aspects about consoles/game region free or not, it's just internet based backwards compatibility and licenses that kind of suck about the Xbox BC I find. Still PGR1&2 was good in 2020 to play on a 360 as don't have a Xbox OG sadly currently to play all 4 games. They already did the Impulse Triggers so going to the Share button I think made sense they saw no need for other things and eh no gyro is unfortunate but yeah the touchpad is skippable it's fine but it's just a big select button anyway because barely many Devs other than a handful of games/apps use it for touch swipes which those games are good but still. Never thought about the region locking for Xbox One or the adaptor of Kinetic for Xbox One on PC but I forget the use of the adaptor for the One S/One X as easier to use the original Xbox One with it. Never used the save memory cards or Xbox live vision camera but we're cool for the time, but I used the Xbox 360 E for the backwards compatibility then using ethernet and don't have the wifi adaptor for the Elite/older 360. Huh I use a third party controller on PC. I like the controller support on PC though. Dualshocks and others it's third party software. I think HD DVD is a cool option but yeah it's obsolete. Sad Kinetic 360 wasn't compatible on Xbox One Kinetic but oh well. But I think the 2013 dashboard was good for dual window use but eh no one clearly cases about that but me. But yeah media focus sigh. But yeah the apps are awkward for the Xbox One just to do the Blu ray/DVD then CD support for another app but hey at least can use them. Also the program is over for Xbox backwards compatibility but hey they did what they could for licenses. But the updates were nice and have been. Otherwise with Bethesda and Activision/Blizzard would benefit more backwards compatibility titles. Even if System Link was great backwards compatibility or just in general then just online or if splitscreen wasn't suitable (on the same TV then a screen per console I mean. I like splitscreen but won't deny System Link was a good idea and kept through) enough and to have separate TV use. Otherwise Dreamcast for Xbox OG would have been cool but didn't happen.
Never fully appreciated just how good Microsoft's backwards compatibility is until my girlfriend and I wanted to play the entire ratchet & clank series from the beginning on her PS4. This is Sony's flagship series. We were a hundred percent willing to re-purchase all of the games digitally through the PlayStation store. And yet, it just straight up can't be done. Meanwhile we had a split screen game of star wars clone wars on my Xbox one a few days ago...
I’ve spent a lot of time playing older games on my Series X. You can play Oblivion or Fallout 3 in 4K60fps. I played Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts and Skate 3 with the 4K enhancements. Or Fallout New Vegas with the FPS boost. Just so much to replay with enhancements
5:53 omg that picture is amazing. Tells the story of my childhood. Summer, playing in the pool or lake, once everyone has had their fun go inside and play halo while the pizza is getting picked up by the adults.
Here are a few inaccuracies I noticed with this video. 1. The 10gb Drive that came with some original xbox consoles didn't matter to most users because it was formatted as an 8gb drive for uniformity. This was purely a cost saving measure. 2. The only difference between the Arcade and Core consoles was the hard drive. Neither had HDMI initially. The Elite was the first system with HDMI and then it filtered down to the others just for manufacturing simplicity. 3. You can mix/match with one wifi and one corded xbox. However, the corded device would have to be plugged into the same network as your Wifi network. 4. Xbox Series S is not on the same level of backwards compatible as Xbox One X. Xbox Series X has the One X enhancements. Unless a game is updated specifically for it, Xbox Series S only supports the base Xbox One VCR/S backwards compatibility. Interesting facts 1. The reason MS went with a Dongle for DVD playback on the original system was because DVD playback required a license and in an effort to keep costs down they didn't want to pay that license for every console when the vast majority of users would never use the function. Additionally Sony would have received some of those royalties so it makes sense. 2. MS went with HDDVD mostly for competitive advantage. Sony was backing Bluray and it would have required a license again with a lot of funds going to Sony.
breakaway cables are huge for families with little kids or pets. My dads racing wheel has one and without it my pc would have definitely taken some damage
13:35 That kinda goes out the window when you remember that Halo 3, ODST, Reach, CEA, and 4 are all backwards compatibile and some even got 4k patches in 2017, long after MCC was out.
I'm fairly sure Microsoft announced last year that they weren't adding any more OG Xbox or 360 games to backwards compatibility. What we have now is all we're getting.
I found the statement, turns out it was 2021. On November 15, 2021, Microsoft released a "latest and final addition" of 76 titles to the list of backwards compatible games, stating they "have reached the limit of our ability to bring new games to the catalog from the past due to licensing, legal and technical constraints".
I managed to find two Xbox one kinect games just dumped in front of my workplace like trash. The first was a boxing game by Ubisoft which refused to install to the series x, but the other one: kinect rivals did install...only to have a crossed out circle over the game icon. I think it only installed because of the external drive I have connected but it doesn't explain the other one not installing. Ah well, I'm in no rush to get to kinect games.
And thus, the trilogy of main line companies backwards compatability has been covered. At least until future iterations of consoles or if you really want to dive into Atari or SEGA consoles.
Likely not next but I'd be down to potentially revisit this series in the form of covering SEGA as I have a decent amount of SEGA consoles. I don't think I could do Atari justice unfortunately, despite them being the first to have a BC console unless I'm mistaken. But maybe one day!
CORRECTION In November 2021, Microsoft announced that they would be ending their backward compatibility program after six years of adding games. Microsoft's reasoning what that they had “reached their limit” was such a halfhearted explanation for shutting the whole program down. Live Compatibility Sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13BnuFlQUVbxLMYRO5Ms8TUhbiefmXsUE69OYVwp1mZ0/edit#gid=0
Wish the HD-DVD reader could work with the Series S so at least some OG Xbox and 360 stuff can be played without clogging the small integrated SSD the S has. I love my xbox
It wouldn't matter to be honest with the way bc works on xbox one/series consoles. The discs basically counts as a download license. The xbox one/series consoles download a version from the store that has been converted to run on those consoles and uses the disc to check if you actually own the disc. So it would fill the ssd either way. It would be nice for those who own the disc though.
I have done system link a couple of times, even to this day! before I sold my 360 we played CoD zombies all night with my friends with system link (Xbox Series S, Xbox One S and my Xbox 360) the first time we did it was around 2011 with only 360s and we still do this to this day cross gen and honestly is such and underrated, fun and amazing experience, couch co-op for me simply will never die
I bought the Xbox One as a Mediaplayer first and game machine second. It was so cool to raise my hand to control everything with the Kinect. Until they patched that out. I was so frustrated I bought a PS4. And then I was so frustrated I bought a One S because the controller is just better on the Xbox side.
Isn't Microsoft not making games backwards compatible anymore? Could've sworn they said they were dissolving the team that handles it and putting them on other departments. Oh and also, I dunno about that DualSense take man, I think that controller is pretty great, prolly one of the best controllers ever, can respect the newer Xbox controllers though.
With an adapter that doesn't exist the xbox 360 memory unit could be used in the og xbox, but the og xbox will format the drive to its own format. So it's not 100% cross compatible as each xbox will keep re-formatting them, but it does work if you need an og xbox memory unit but all you can find is x360 ones as they where far more common. (The adapter would be a little more complex then just some wires, you need to regulate the og xbox 5v down to the 360's 3.3v but this is a super common regulator)
Fun fact: the OG Xbox controllers are just USB with a funny connector. They work just fine on PC if you're willing to cut up the cable and put on a USB A connector.
100% backwards compatibility(with the og Xbox and the 360) would’ve actually encouraged me to buy the series X , I guess Microsoft doesn’t want my money anymore
@@JohnDoe-hj9fh xbox is tied to microsoft. They have enough money to allow things like game pass, which is a loss for them unless a lot of people are paying for it (this is the case, but nonetheless it was a risk only they could take)
Now it is, sure. The Xbox 360 era was brutal though. Consoles had an enormous failure rate with red rings, DVD drives frequently stopped working, wireless controllers couldn't be plugged into PCs and needed a separate adapter that cost as much as the controller, and Xbox Live cost money (at time time, multiplayer on PC, Playstation Network, and whatever Nintendo had was free). DVD readers in particular were paired to the console, so you couldn't even fix them yourself without extra purpose-built tools. There was no reason for this other than Balmer-era Microsoft saying "screw you". E: Oh god, I forgot Games For Windows Live, which was Microsoft's now-defunct attempt at bringing Xbox Live to PC.
Xbox also made a converter for you original (external) 360 hard drive, and the updated 360 s (internal) hard drive. so you could transfer all saved data from the clunky smaller storage drives onto the comparatively massive 250gb or 320gb internal hard drive of the 360 s (and e). personally, i bought a 360 S around the time it came out, bundled with kinect (4gb version, non glossy matte) eventually bought the 250gb hard drive on sale. with the converter, i had like 3 or 4 different hard drives converted them all to the internal 250gb hard drive and still had like 175gb left. to this day i still have the internal 250gb hard drive in my 360 s. never had a problem with the 360 s at all, or the hard drive. (i prefer the s over the later revision the e, simply because the E version removes certain ports including the kinect port). on top of that when they released the cloud storage, i transferred all save data for BC games onto the cloud freeing up more space. while also bridging the gap from physical hard drive to the cloud on xbox one or either series s/x. so you could push you save file back in the day from the launch 360 converted to internal 360 s or e, upload to the cloud, put the original 360 disc in the series x in 2023 and continue from the original save file.
Hate the be that guy but gotta fix some things. Several corrections on the 360. The original versions were the core and premium. Premium had a hard drive. Only real difference Hdmi was first on the elite. Then mincrosoft came out with the arcade which had 4gb internal memory and an hdmi port as well. You could mix and match wired and wireless system link if the systems were on the same lan. And I'm speaking from experience on these.
I used to be a PlayStation guy in the 2000s, I'm foremost a PC guy, but I gotta say Microsoft has won me over with their business strategies like backwards compatibility/features/Etc, and I finally bought an XB one for 4K movies and some backwards compatible gaming. Pretty impressed with the system as a whole.
I've been an Xbox head since the beginning in 2001 (basically when I was 11) that's cool that you can play basically any Xbox backwards compatible game on both an Original XBOX and Xbox Series X with an Ethernet Cord (aka Cross Gen System Link), it's like the past meets the future. The Original XBOX was the shit growing up with, I even have the Duke Controller that was remade for the newer Xbox Consoles. LAN Parties were the shit back then and still is today. I had the Xbox 360 Core (my dad found it at his job) and I used a 8GB Flash Drive to save my games and then it fried lol. My dad bought me the Xbox 360 Slim and it still works today. I got the Original Xbox One on Black Friday 2019 and got me through the whole COVID-19 pandemic and eventually traded it towards RE4R and saved enough money and bought an Xbox Series X this past March. I'm proud to be an Xbox Head 😎🎮🤘🏽💚
Didn't the original Kinect work with PCs out of the box? It had a USB connector to allow it to work with the original 360 models and I remember using it's depth sensing capability within Windows.
Thank the gaming gods for bw cap. Still got the og brick box and recently got the x360 Kinect box love em both. Also are those your finger nails?? They look cool and you rock em. Stay you stay cool.
Gamepass is definitely the best bang for your buck I legit haven’t bought a new game in a while because a lot of the games that I wanna play are coming straight to gamepass Payday 3 Texas Chainsaw and Starlight
Yep, but at least you can pop in a CD and listen to it while playing a digital game on the One and Series consoles (which is more than the PS4/5 can do)
If only the OG Xbox team went through with their plan for DreamCast backwards compatibility... It would be so wild if those games could run on modern Xboxes too
I did some reading on this and wish I would have talked about it on the vid! SEGA approached MS and proposed for the Xbox to play DC games and MS denied the request. Just makes me even more sad than I already am regarding the death of the Dreamcast )':
The issue is making the disc drive GD-ROM compatible. That was already a fairly tall order back then but it's pretty much impossible now. Unless the Backwards compatible DC titles are digital only but that defeats the purpose of using copies of your old games.
For real. I just wanna play jet set radio on current gen.
@@Shanmania This was the old MS. With Phil Spender and Satya Nutella we already had this as part of BC. At least they're allowing emulators through the backdoor
@@harbingersolution series X and S have a developer mode that allows you to load Roms to play all the old game you ever wanted.
Cross gen system link is the coolest thing about the Xbox family that never gets talked about
don't forget system link with ps2 on the x/s
@@BMPKNo way you can do that. That’s awesome if so
Never? Bull.
Yea it made me buy a xbox you have to use dev mode now sadly@@SilverGeFer
Ever since Sony ripped the PS2 backwards compatibility out of the PS3, they don't want you playing older games, because you're not buying new games then.
They're only doing it now as they found a way to make you pay for old games.
Kids today won't understand how awesome the CD ripping was for the Xbox. Need custom playlists of soundtrack music for your D&D game and your PC with Winamp is in another room? Boom. Soundtracks on TV. Playing a wrestling game and want the latest Nickelback or Creed song for your entrance? Bam! Custom entrance music! That HDD was a game changer
RAW 2 is the best because of that. Also in San Andreas you could make a custom radio station. So damn cool.
The best for me was Midnight Club 3. Custom songs every race were an amazing feature. It was Fallout Boy, Green Day, and Incubus for every round.
Yup filled up the h.d. Within a week of buying og Xbox, then the Xbox crashed and died, took it back and went nuts at the bloke behind the counter saying that I’d put all my cd’s on the Xbox and sold the cd’s and now I haven’t got any music!!! He offered me a limited edition green Xbox which I’ve still got in the attic !!! Now I use a series s !!! Peace out from the police state of north Wales 🏴
Kids today do that on PC lol
Don't have a clue what you're talking about.
the backwards compatibility stuff is why these systems are my preferred choice of console, even if im not going to actually play some of these old games a lot having them available as an option is really important to me
I think what we've learned from these consoles is it might be the most underused feature of the new consoles. Most people don't spend $500 on a brand new console to play games available on a $40 dollar console. Like is this the reason the dashboard still has yet to be updated? I think most people would appreciate that more.
@@Tom-yz3op Specially with developer mode
@@Tom-yz3op Why tho, I see both of them having upsides and downsides.
as a low-budget gamer, I get most of my games secondhand from thrift stores, so a lot of them are Xbox 360 games that I'm playing on my Xbox One. I love backwards compatibility!
Thing is tho. I don’t get why some use it as a argument because only around 76 or so original Xbox games are compatible and only 633 out of 2,155 games for 360 that are compatible
i had a game destroyed because my dog walked passed the TV, got his leg snagged on the controller wire, and panic-fled, yanking the whole console from the entertainment center, and making the game freeze because my PS2 didn't have breakaway cables. It honestly was a welcome addition to gaming from my perspective.
@@amongitopremium 😂 I hope you're joking. Haha.
@@amongitopremium 💀
@@JustSomeRandomBurger -the dog
I was playing black ops with my grandpa and his dog decided to bite down on the power cable of my xb360 and he got shocked, freaked out but couldn't un clench his jaw and then my Xbox fell off the table!!! He was okay though, still alive today and I took my black ops to blockbuster and they fixed the scratch 😎
@@amongitopremium
That dog will be one with the BBQ Sauce
You keep this up and Phil Spencer is going to offer you a 10 year Call of Duty deal.
The biggest issue I have with back compat on Xbox one and the Series X is that it's fully reliant on having an internet connection. The game disc aren't being utilised to play the game, they're just an acces key to download a digital emulated version. This means at some point in the future these console will lose their back compat ability.
I am able to play my 360 games on my One S offline. A download is required, but a constant internet connection is not.
@@sigg7776 My point was that if you haven't already downoaded the back compat builds of games there is no way of playing those games on a console that isn't connected to the internet. Meaning that back compat on Xbox one and series s/x is just a temporary service.
I believe this was recently changed.. for some games. I played Rainbow Six Seige, with my system offline from when I first put the disc in to when I booted it up (I wanted to play V1 of the game fyi)
If Microsoft keep the BC Programme alive they won't
@@JWRandall24 All back compatible games require a download.
The only thing Microsoft should do is add a System on a Chip for the Xbox and the Xbox 360, just so that games that can't be emulated due to licensing reasons can still legally be played on these systems, but given the age of those two consoles, I don't know if Microsoft would be willing to go that route. And I hope that their next systems down the line offer the same compatibility that they have now, and not drop any of it. I don't know if the Xbox One is emulated, or if the Series X is simply a souped up Xbox One, but I hope that Microsoft maintains a 100% backwards compatibility rate for all of their future systems.
Only thing I can think of is how expensive those chips can be. Prolly the reason they didn't do it before. (And yeah, I think the Series is just a more powerful One, the OS is pretty darn similar and One games run natively on Series)
The Xbox 360 used sheer will and emulation to emulate the Xbox. It's been described by those involved as the toughest thing they've ever done.
If it was possible then, I'm sure the Series X could play those games easily. Especially considering how it plays GCN games in developer mode.
The issue isn't that some games aren't emulatable due to licensing its just that Microsoft wants to use backwards compatibility to resell older games and so would need the licence hence why original Xbox on Xbox 360 supports half of the library whereas on Xbox One it doesn't.
@@cyberredpandas1903 Yet some 360 games are delisted but are still backwards compatible like Mortal Kombat 9 and King Kong. There really just needs to be a whitelist emulator so I can play Tony Hawk 3 on the Series X like I could on the 360.
PS4, PS5, Xbox One, and Xbox Series are all just PCs under the hood. PS6 and Xbox whatever the F*** they call it next will likely be too.
I remember years ago two of my friends had one X360 each, so one day we made a group of 7 and attempted to link up both consoles to have a MW2 lan party. We spent hours trying to work that out, but without success. Now that I think of it, it might have been because one of the consoles was hardware modded.
Funny story: I got a 4GB 360 S Kinect bundle back in 2011 and for the longest time, I was confused when I couldn't access certain features or play original Xbox games due to "lacking a hard drive". When Xbox One came out along with the Games with Gold program, I had to keep asking my parents to buy flash drives to download the games as the store wouldn't allow you to purchase games when you didn't have the room to download it. After finding out about the attachable hard drives, I thought my console didn't support them as it didn't have the grey plate sticking out of it. Finally after watching this video, I took a closer look at my 360 and found a latch revealing the hard drive slot I've been wanting for all these years. Just got a hard drive on ebay and can't wait to play all these games I've been missing out on ever since my original Xbox died.
As someone who used to swap hard drives with friends all the time with my 250gb Xbox 360 S (which I still own to this day and it still works great), your comment made me chuckle lol. Yeah it blends in pretty well if you don't know it's there. It always puzzled me why Microsoft sold a 360 with no hard drive at all, considering that's about the time where they gave you the option to install your games to run faster, and as you said, many functionalities are only possible with a hard drive. It's also a bad spot for the hard drive slot because it accumulates an insane amount of dust inside. I opened mine up recently after the console sat for years on my entertainment center and the dust bunnies came spilling out with it lol
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow at the time hard drives were extremely expensive, and were proprietary to the xbox 360, so they released hard driveless versions for people that wanted to game but didnt care/couldnt really utilize the install feature. i was one who had the arcade 360 and was perfectly fine with my little memory unit they gave me. It allowed me to save halo 3 and call of duty saves, along with my avatar and id simply bring it to my friends house and copy everything to his xbox hard drive and in future visits everything would be synched through the magic of internet synchronization lol i eventually got an xbox elite and still found myself using my memory unti to transfer shit over to my friends and vice versa. hard drives werent so important back then
Bruh that’s an L 😂
This is a great feeling. I'm happy for you
That must have been an exciting moment for you. Happy you'll have a lot of fun ahead of you
MS ending the OG Xbox/360 backwards compatible program is one of the saddest days in video game history for me. It was so cool when these older games would get FPS boost and other cool features.
I know, I know, there are lots of ways to play older games with enhancements. But it was just such a cool feature to be built into the console. I still play Hydro Thunder every week on my Series X. That game rocks.
oh my god. I haven't heard that name in years
I used to play hydro thunder hurricane like it was the only game in my xbox when I was a kid, I remember it was the demo version from the xbox store so I could only play a small selection of levels but still got tons of fun out of it
Aren't the discs still backwards compatible?
It drives me nuts with the amount of games that I have that aren't supported by the backwards compatibility.
They have definitely had enough years to get atleast the whole og library ported over by now...
Microsoft/Xbox is a bunch of lazy money hungry bums
Can't. Because of licenses
They also stated that the tech and methods used up to that point were reaching there limits. Recently there has been talks of the backwards compatibility team working on those new methods and systems to hopefully deal with the situation of the Xbox 360 online store finally shutting its doors July 24, 2024
Oh, the OG Xbox was originally going to be backwards compatable with the Dreamcast, but the deal with Sega fell through sadly.
Left 4 dead and 2 were some of the best online experiences I’ve ever had on a video game.
Amen to that. Currently working on cleaning my old ass xbox ones disc reader just to play it again
Still play the first one regularly to this day with friends 😊
I still play it on my series x randomly
At 13:13 you said that Microsoft is still adding games to backwards compatibility on Xbox One and Series X, they actually ended the program in November 2021. So unfortunately we will never officially be able to play Sneak King on XSX upscaled to 4K as God intended.
Ah yes good catch - I'll update the sheet with this. Looks like the update on Nov 15 2021 included the last 76 titles
@@Shanmania The wording they used in that announcement was vague, and implied they would restart the program later under different restrictions. For example, all OGX games playable on XB1 had to also be added to the 360 marketplace.
That does sound pretty weird wording, but I think this has changed recently due to confirmation the 360 online store is shutting down
With the ABK merger a bunch of licenses would have come into Xbox's hands meaning they might have a way to get a few more titles into the back compat program. Personally I would like to see Singularity and the Prototype games added.
Fun fact: the Xbox 360 controllers (or any XInput controller) also works natively with Linux (at least testing in Ubuntu)
yes and no. Since most people use steam, controllers are all mapped via steaminput and are all the same. for playstation controller supported games it is bad but otherwise so much easier for anything on linux.
Use a Xbox one controller (and a switch Pro controller) with my Garuda Linux (Arch) install
PS5 Controller works to the touchpad even works as a mouse
What's fun about using ANY controller on shitty Linux? As has been the case since 1996, only losers use linux.
@@Great-Documentaries I think the million plus Steam Decks sold beg to differ. I've been gaming on Linux for about 2 years now, there are definitely some hiccups but it's a pretty smooth experience in general
I remember the original Xbox was the first DVD player my family ever had, and despite it being a gift for me, my family used it quite a bit to watch DVDs. Much to my teenage chagrin, but it was the first and last time my family would use a video game console. The plus side is that we still had those old 90s style big screen TV with the huge backs. Pain in the ass to carry if you're moving, but damn if it didn't have great visual fidelity and high audio quality. Getting the Xbox 360 and being able to play most of my original xbox games was a huge boon to me. Got to play lots of games later on that I missed out the first time, like Stubbs the Zombie.
Also, I love the Duke. All hail the DUKE!
SAME. I got the Xbox December 2001. A month after release and within a month got the DVD playback kit. It was our first DvD player. It wasn't common to have one since a standalone player was like $500
Kinda sad Series S doesn't benefit enough of physical media due to it not having a disk drive to begin with, but for some info, Microsoft had a patent made since 2022 last year for a disk drive of some sort for the Series S but nothing has came from that since. Hopefully it's made and we can benefit from physical media again since the only way for us to benefit from BC is either their BC paid program or even the new Xenia port from a bit ago.
Xbox BC is free
If the rumored PS5 model with the detachable hard drive is true, then maybe Xbox will respond to it somehow with the Series S. It's not like they haven't done it before; they had an external HD-DVD drive for the 360.
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog Yeah, what is the paid BC program OP is talking about? BC on Xbox is completely free.
@@jimmythegamer2231 I think he may be confusing it with Game Pass (rip $1 deal).
BC has always been free from Ms hasn't it? At least since the excel/lotus 1 2 3 days.
great video! im sure your channel will grow if you keep producing videos like these. very high quality ur obv very dedicated
10:43 Honestly, the idea is pretty neat and I would kill for companies to provide external DDs for their consoles, so if you don't have enough cash for a model with a DD, you can buy the one without then eventually purchase a DD for the device.
That actually could be the route future Sony and Microsoft consoles take. PS5 Digital and Xbox Series S are smaller and cheaper to manufacture and buy than their disc-reading counterparts, to the point YEARS after release, the disc units are still a bitch to get ahold of. So making the next generation digital only, but with an option to buy a disc drive external peripheral [or even internal], and then only big budget games would get physical releases, while stuff like indies and games companies aren't 100% certain of sales in, would be digital only.
PCs have already been doing this for a while, optical discs are so rarely used for modern software that most PCs no longer come with a disc drive installed, which is still weird to me.
13:13 Microsoft stated that they were done adding new backwards compatible titles to the One/Series X/S in 2021, along with a massive batch of new titles and new enhancements.
This news sucked personally, but at the same time they also explained that aside from Licensing issues the tech up until that point had reach its limits for tasks. At the very least I hold out the team do something about older games since the 360 online store is shutting down July of next year :(
so sad that they never came out with the xbox one e. we could've done a hilarious gag to impress all our friends
One little Factoid about the OG Xbox DVD kit. It wasn't *just* an IR receiver. That receiver also contained the DVD player program itself, and more importantly, the license to use it. Microsoft didn't want to pay the DVD license fee for every single Xbox they produced back then, so they only paid for it for each set of IR receiver and remote they produced instead. It also contained the DVD player software so people who didn't have an internet connection could still use the program.
The backwards and forwards compatibility of Xbox one is fabulous. I bought a plain xbox one from my cousin for cheap a couple years ago, and between some of the fabulous xbox 360 games and the newest games coming out, I can play most of them, though the lack of modern hardware is definitely noticeable on new games.
In my opinion it’s not even worth buying new games for the Xbox One, the hardware just can’t do them justice.
@@Minnevan it's a fair argument, but a lot of them are still quite playable, even with the underpowered hardware.
@@Minnevan played and nearly 100%’d High on Life when it dropped on Game Pass back before my Xbox One (Advanced Warfare Ed. w/ 1TB HDD) died on me.
Trust me, it’s not even that important unless you’re one of those 120 FPS/ 1440p and Up Resolution PC Players that can’t even enjoy a game vanilla. It, along with Elden Ring, Forza Horizon 5, and Psychonauts 2 looked and ran well on my dumpy 2014 Xbox One ☝🏽
While I own a Series S now and really want the Series X to play my BC games the way they’re meant to be played…Microsoft ensured that the games ran very well AS IS on every Xbox One for a reason. Even to the point of cancelling Scalebound, since it made the base Xbox One look very weak (my personal theory) 🤷🏽♂️
@@MinnevanI mean buying Xbox one games isn’t bad at all, mostly because it’s backwards compatible anyways, games on Xbone is still XBSX Game anyways I buy Xbone, 360, even original Xbox games and I missed all of their eras
Very insightful, wish I'd still had the 360 vision camera knocking about in 2020! I thought Microsoft had stopped adding new back compat games to the Series consoles though?
Yeah I'm pretty sure they have
In November 2021, they announced that those were the last games being made backwards compatible.
@@lawrenceinthis is true, licensing issues and tech limitations had them announce the last games for the time being it. I sure hope something is being done about it tho, there’s rumors something could be happening 2024 because the 360 online store is shutting down
You forgot to mention there's a caveat to backwards compatibility on XB1 and XBSX, and it is that you need an internet connexion. If you put a disc in your console it will ask you to "download an update", and it will download the game from the internet. The games won't be played from the original DVD.
It is somewhat bad for game preservation, because if Microsoft decides to shut down the servers storing these games we won't be able to play previous generation games on the newer hardware.
Great vid though
One of the things that I have learned about the backwards compatibility is, if it was an Xbox 360 game originally and was ported to the Xbox one then the 360 version is not necessarily going to be backwards compatible you'll have to play the Xbox One version, but then there's 360 games that were never converted over and those are going to be the ones that are going to be backwards compatible as 360 games vice versa.
Just take Battlefield 4 for instance, it originally came out for the 360 but then got ported over to the Xbox One the 360 version is not going to work in the backwards compatibility the Xbox One version will, because it's only Xbox 360 games in Xbox original games that are limited all Xbox One games will work on an Xbox series X and S.
Anyone with dogs knows how great the breakaway cable was
In the year of 2008 the Xbox 360 arcade model was the best model to buy and then get a hard drive separately as it was the first model on the market that featured the newly updated computer chips and as a result was the only Xbox that would not red ring!
It is the model I have and it still works to this very day it is a beast I have taken it apart over 20 times just to clean it up get it reading discs again and put it back together and I’ve loved every moment I’ve had with it I also painted mine black and did a flawless job, because I took a halo limited-edition shell from halo three which already had the black center power button and all I had to do was put masking tape around that and then paint the rest of the consul black and so it looks pretty legit
Joe Swanson back in the game with another polished upload
"Just like the rock it will be the most electrifying thing coming out this year" I'm so proud of the rock for coming out as gay
Can’t beat system linking with the boys
i keep my old xbox around mainly for Crimson Skies. after seeing it pop up a few times in this video, i have to go play it. how on earth has there been no follow-up game? it's awesome!
Relaxing voice, great video, focussed on accurate information? I like that! Keep it up, you got me subbed! (:
Microsoft is absolutely the king of compatibility, for computers in general. I don't think I've seen anything else where you can launch an executable from nearly 3 decades ago on modern hardware and have it work right away in most cases, it's great.
I think Vista was the first OS to keep old versions of DLLs to improve kompatibility.
With older Windows versions an updated library could break existing software easily.
Wow I didn't know you could do Lan with og xbox and the new ones. That's nuts.
Papa Phil Spencer is the only way Sonic Unleashed can now basically fully run at 60fps with the Series X/S.
(Still waiting for the resolution bump, Sonic Unleashed looks pretty poor with its aliased 880x720, a 4k or even 1440p res bump would make it the definitive Sonic Unleashed experience)
I mean, at a stable 60 FPS, it's already definitive.
@@JoSephGD (I didn't even though you replied to me, YT didn't give a notification, so sorry for the late reply) I mean technically, you're right, it is the definitive edition since it's runs at a stable 60fps, but I wish the game was 4k or even 1440p, since I think the 880x720 aliased resolution looks hideous, and Sega won't port it to PC with higher res (or even source quality) textures and a customizable resolution, so even with the sometimes questionable texture quality and no mods, I'll happily be satisfied with a resolution bump.
Man 10 year old me was so mind blown by ripping CDs to my xbox. I would borrow everybody's CDs
The vibes on this video are immaculate, love this
The OG Xbox and the time that it prospered shortly after it came out, was one of my favorite video game machines of all time and I have countless memories of playing some of the greatest games ever that generation on my new Xbox!! That’s why I’m such a hard-core Xbox fan today!
Playing games like halo on endless nights with my best friend and a few other buddies and then games like soul Calibur later on and the Sega GT games that came to Xbox shortly after the Dreamcast died was just such a great time to be alive and then the final game that I got for mine which was the best version of it you could play at the time, was none other than Grandtheft auto San Andreas and we had an Xbox with about 2000 hours worth of music tracks on it that would play custom soundtrack with the game soundtrack together at the same time(we had all the songs that were already in the game on the Xbox also) so that while you were playing that wonderful amazing for the time game, never once would you hear the same song twice in a single play session!!!
There’s just so many things that could do that people don’t give it credit for just like the PlayStation vita, another system I adore…
FPS Boost is available only for Series consoles, not for the One X as you stated.
I also noticed that but I wondered if he meant performance boost for games with unlocked frame rates, in which the one and one X would provide that due to the natural extra power overhead.
@@Pedro_The_Neco I didn't think of that, it was most probably just unfortunately spelled then.
@@whereistheguru. I also recall other One X enhanced features. Like better detailing, fps, etc. It was more or less dynamic and not a button like what the series line can get.
@@FirestormDDash 16x anisotropic filtering is applied to all back-compat games, as well as forced V-Sync and faster loadings of course. Other than that, there are also game-specific things like much better LOD in The Witcher 2.
Wow, love this. Brings back so many mems of the OG Xbox with lil bro and pops
Maybe I'm in the minority, but another interesting backwards compatibility issue is the guitar hero games. I recently went back out and rebought a 360 when I hooked up my guitar hero controller and found out they don't work on any of the new gens, one or series x. This is pretty much the only reason I keep a 360 around
That's a good thumbnail it's why I clicked really catches your eyes
Got this recommended and felt obligated to say, this trilogy of videos are great 👍
Good video for the peripherals, different aspects about consoles/game region free or not, it's just internet based backwards compatibility and licenses that kind of suck about the Xbox BC I find. Still PGR1&2 was good in 2020 to play on a 360 as don't have a Xbox OG sadly currently to play all 4 games.
They already did the Impulse Triggers so going to the Share button I think made sense they saw no need for other things and eh no gyro is unfortunate but yeah the touchpad is skippable it's fine but it's just a big select button anyway because barely many Devs other than a handful of games/apps use it for touch swipes which those games are good but still.
Never thought about the region locking for Xbox One or the adaptor of Kinetic for Xbox One on PC but I forget the use of the adaptor for the One S/One X as easier to use the original Xbox One with it.
Never used the save memory cards or Xbox live vision camera but we're cool for the time, but I used the Xbox 360 E for the backwards compatibility then using ethernet and don't have the wifi adaptor for the Elite/older 360. Huh I use a third party controller on PC. I like the controller support on PC though. Dualshocks and others it's third party software. I think HD DVD is a cool option but yeah it's obsolete. Sad Kinetic 360 wasn't compatible on Xbox One Kinetic but oh well. But I think the 2013 dashboard was good for dual window use but eh no one clearly cases about that but me. But yeah media focus sigh.
But yeah the apps are awkward for the Xbox One just to do the Blu ray/DVD then CD support for another app but hey at least can use them. Also the program is over for Xbox backwards compatibility but hey they did what they could for licenses. But the updates were nice and have been. Otherwise with Bethesda and Activision/Blizzard would benefit more backwards compatibility titles.
Even if System Link was great backwards compatibility or just in general then just online or if splitscreen wasn't suitable (on the same TV then a screen per console I mean. I like splitscreen but won't deny System Link was a good idea and kept through) enough and to have separate TV use.
Otherwise Dreamcast for Xbox OG would have been cool but didn't happen.
Never fully appreciated just how good Microsoft's backwards compatibility is until my girlfriend and I wanted to play the entire ratchet & clank series from the beginning on her PS4. This is Sony's flagship series. We were a hundred percent willing to re-purchase all of the games digitally through the PlayStation store. And yet, it just straight up can't be done.
Meanwhile we had a split screen game of star wars clone wars on my Xbox one a few days ago...
I’ve spent a lot of time playing older games on my Series X. You can play Oblivion or Fallout 3 in 4K60fps. I played Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts and Skate 3 with the 4K enhancements. Or Fallout New Vegas with the FPS boost. Just so much to replay with enhancements
5:53 omg that picture is amazing. Tells the story of my childhood. Summer, playing in the pool or lake, once everyone has had their fun go inside and play halo while the pizza is getting picked up by the adults.
14:09
"Go to internet explorer"
"Oh..nice"
Idk why but that amused me greatly
Not sure if you mentioned it in the video, but they have officially ended adding backcompat games.
Yeah I remember them announcing that too but resident evil operation raccoon city was just added like last week
@@JohnDoe-hj9fh that one was part of the last wave in late 2021.
@@EggEnjoyer it ain't that bad
@@EggEnjoyer resident evil 5 is fun as hell I'd rather play it too
I wish they’d fix backwards compatibility for KOTR and the tenchu games
Here are a few inaccuracies I noticed with this video.
1. The 10gb Drive that came with some original xbox consoles didn't matter to most users because it was formatted as an 8gb drive for uniformity. This was purely a cost saving measure.
2. The only difference between the Arcade and Core consoles was the hard drive. Neither had HDMI initially. The Elite was the first system with HDMI and then it filtered down to the others just for manufacturing simplicity.
3. You can mix/match with one wifi and one corded xbox. However, the corded device would have to be plugged into the same network as your Wifi network.
4. Xbox Series S is not on the same level of backwards compatible as Xbox One X. Xbox Series X has the One X enhancements. Unless a game is updated specifically for it, Xbox Series S only supports the base Xbox One VCR/S backwards compatibility.
Interesting facts
1. The reason MS went with a Dongle for DVD playback on the original system was because DVD playback required a license and in an effort to keep costs down they didn't want to pay that license for every console when the vast majority of users would never use the function. Additionally Sony would have received some of those royalties so it makes sense.
2. MS went with HDDVD mostly for competitive advantage. Sony was backing Bluray and it would have required a license again with a lot of funds going to Sony.
breakaway cables are huge for families with little kids or pets. My dads racing wheel has one and without it my pc would have definitely taken some damage
I wish metal arm still ran on Xbox :(
Picking that up on my 360 was easily my best idea
13:35 That kinda goes out the window when you remember that Halo 3, ODST, Reach, CEA, and 4 are all backwards compatibile and some even got 4k patches in 2017, long after MCC was out.
so brave of the rock to come out like that on live TV
your nail color is so nice!
XBOX & their backwards compatibility with CD's, discs was so high-quality in my eyes.
I'm fairly sure Microsoft announced last year that they weren't adding any more OG Xbox or 360 games to backwards compatibility. What we have now is all we're getting.
I found the statement, turns out it was 2021.
On November 15, 2021, Microsoft released a "latest and final addition" of 76 titles to the list of backwards compatible games, stating they "have reached the limit of our ability to bring new games to the catalog from the past due to licensing, legal and technical constraints".
Bro did my boy sonic dirty with Sonic 06 an Sonic Free Riders
Your cats at the corrections part are so cute! 😄
I didn't know you could connect the OG and the Big X via Lan. That's dope if it's real.
Thought they stopped adding new backwards compatibility games
I managed to find two Xbox one kinect games just dumped in front of my workplace like trash. The first was a boxing game by Ubisoft which refused to install to the series x, but the other one: kinect rivals did install...only to have a crossed out circle over the game icon. I think it only installed because of the external drive I have connected but it doesn't explain the other one not installing. Ah well, I'm in no rush to get to kinect games.
And thus, the trilogy of main line companies backwards compatability has been covered. At least until future iterations of consoles or if you really want to dive into Atari or SEGA consoles.
Likely not next but I'd be down to potentially revisit this series in the form of covering SEGA as I have a decent amount of SEGA consoles. I don't think I could do Atari justice unfortunately, despite them being the first to have a BC console unless I'm mistaken. But maybe one day!
CORRECTION
In November 2021, Microsoft announced that they would be ending their backward compatibility program after six years of adding games. Microsoft's reasoning what that they had “reached their limit” was such a halfhearted explanation for shutting the whole program down.
Live Compatibility Sheet:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13BnuFlQUVbxLMYRO5Ms8TUhbiefmXsUE69OYVwp1mZ0/edit#gid=0
loved the vid as always. thanks!
Really lovin the vids
Wish the HD-DVD reader could work with the Series S so at least some OG Xbox and 360 stuff can be played without clogging the small integrated SSD the S has. I love my xbox
It wouldn't matter to be honest with the way bc works on xbox one/series consoles. The discs basically counts as a download license. The xbox one/series consoles download a version from the store that has been converted to run on those consoles and uses the disc to check if you actually own the disc. So it would fill the ssd either way. It would be nice for those who own the disc though.
great video, mate! you surely deserve more subscribers
I have done system link a couple of times, even to this day! before I sold my 360 we played CoD zombies all night with my friends with system link (Xbox Series S, Xbox One S and my Xbox 360) the first time we did it was around 2011 with only 360s and we still do this to this day cross gen and honestly is such and underrated, fun and amazing experience, couch co-op for me simply will never die
Was that Patrick Stewart? Did Patrick Stewart ask to see my face? What an honor!
You're style of speaking reminds me of nerdSlayer. Subbed
I bought the Xbox One as a Mediaplayer first and game machine second. It was so cool to raise my hand to control everything with the Kinect. Until they patched that out. I was so frustrated I bought a PS4. And then I was so frustrated I bought a One S because the controller is just better on the Xbox side.
Isn't Microsoft not making games backwards compatible anymore? Could've sworn they said they were dissolving the team that handles it and putting them on other departments. Oh and also, I dunno about that DualSense take man, I think that controller is pretty great, prolly one of the best controllers ever, can respect the newer Xbox controllers though.
With an adapter that doesn't exist the xbox 360 memory unit could be used in the og xbox, but the og xbox will format the drive to its own format. So it's not 100% cross compatible as each xbox will keep re-formatting them, but it does work if you need an og xbox memory unit but all you can find is x360 ones as they where far more common.
(The adapter would be a little more complex then just some wires, you need to regulate the og xbox 5v down to the 360's 3.3v but this is a super common regulator)
Fun fact: the OG Xbox controllers are just USB with a funny connector. They work just fine on PC if you're willing to cut up the cable and put on a USB A connector.
I have the OGX360 adapter for the OG Xbox it’s made system link way more enjoyable 😎
Good video, thanks for uploading
I have a PC in my office and a Series X in the living room.
100% backwards compatibility(with the og Xbox and the 360) would’ve actually encouraged me to buy the series X , I guess Microsoft doesn’t want my money anymore
They couldn't due to licences. They tried. They wanted that for good reason for gamepass.
@@tristanbackup2536 they didnt get a licence for my money , so there's that
It's crazy how consumer friendly Xbox is considering how big the Xbox brand is
They can afford it
@@playbossthebest936 so could playstation
@@JohnDoe-hj9fh xbox is tied to microsoft. They have enough money to allow things like game pass, which is a loss for them unless a lot of people are paying for it (this is the case, but nonetheless it was a risk only they could take)
@@playbossthebest936 playstation is tied to Sony which yes it has less money it has more than enough to be more user friendly
Now it is, sure. The Xbox 360 era was brutal though. Consoles had an enormous failure rate with red rings, DVD drives frequently stopped working, wireless controllers couldn't be plugged into PCs and needed a separate adapter that cost as much as the controller, and Xbox Live cost money (at time time, multiplayer on PC, Playstation Network, and whatever Nintendo had was free). DVD readers in particular were paired to the console, so you couldn't even fix them yourself without extra purpose-built tools. There was no reason for this other than Balmer-era Microsoft saying "screw you".
E: Oh god, I forgot Games For Windows Live, which was Microsoft's now-defunct attempt at bringing Xbox Live to PC.
Xbox also made a converter for you original (external) 360 hard drive, and the updated 360 s (internal) hard drive. so you could transfer all saved data from the clunky smaller storage drives onto the comparatively massive 250gb or 320gb internal hard drive of the 360 s (and e).
personally, i bought a 360 S around the time it came out, bundled with kinect (4gb version, non glossy matte) eventually bought the 250gb hard drive on sale. with the converter, i had like 3 or 4 different hard drives converted them all to the internal 250gb hard drive and still had like 175gb left.
to this day i still have the internal 250gb hard drive in my 360 s. never had a problem with the 360 s at all, or the hard drive. (i prefer the s over the later revision the e, simply because the E version removes certain ports including the kinect port).
on top of that when they released the cloud storage, i transferred all save data for BC games onto the cloud freeing up more space. while also bridging the gap from physical hard drive to the cloud on xbox one or either series s/x.
so you could push you save file back in the day from the launch 360 converted to internal 360 s or e, upload to the cloud, put the original 360 disc in the series x in 2023 and continue from the original save file.
System linkin' with the boys, always fun indeed
Hate the be that guy but gotta fix some things.
Several corrections on the 360. The original versions were the core and premium. Premium had a hard drive. Only real difference
Hdmi was first on the elite. Then mincrosoft came out with the arcade which had 4gb internal memory and an hdmi port as well.
You could mix and match wired and wireless system link if the systems were on the same lan.
And I'm speaking from experience on these.
I used to be a PlayStation guy in the 2000s, I'm foremost a PC guy, but I gotta say Microsoft has won me over with their business strategies like backwards compatibility/features/Etc, and I finally bought an XB one for 4K movies and some backwards compatible gaming. Pretty impressed with the system as a whole.
I've been an Xbox head since the beginning in 2001 (basically when I was 11) that's cool that you can play basically any Xbox backwards compatible game on both an Original XBOX and Xbox Series X with an Ethernet Cord (aka Cross Gen System Link), it's like the past meets the future. The Original XBOX was the shit growing up with, I even have the Duke Controller that was remade for the newer Xbox Consoles. LAN Parties were the shit back then and still is today. I had the Xbox 360 Core (my dad found it at his job) and I used a 8GB Flash Drive to save my games and then it fried lol. My dad bought me the Xbox 360 Slim and it still works today. I got the Original Xbox One on Black Friday 2019 and got me through the whole COVID-19 pandemic and eventually traded it towards RE4R and saved enough money and bought an Xbox Series X this past March. I'm proud to be an Xbox Head 😎🎮🤘🏽💚
What is the background music I don’t know why but I zoned out and really liked it LOL
Great video loved the content and style.
Didn't the original Kinect work with PCs out of the box? It had a USB connector to allow it to work with the original 360 models and I remember using it's depth sensing capability within Windows.
My brothers friend taped those breakaway points on the controller cable. I don’t have to tell you what happened. And yes I was the one who tripped
Is the series s named after the series s controller? In both scenarios they’re the smaller slimmer version of the original
Next time, could you please move the camera over so we can get a better look at the cat?
I wish we had more original Xbox games more 360 games for backwards compatible?
Thank the gaming gods for bw cap. Still got the og brick box and recently got the x360 Kinect box love em both. Also are those your finger nails?? They look cool and you rock em. Stay you stay cool.
Gamepass is definitely the best bang for your buck I legit haven’t bought a new game in a while because a lot of the games that I wanna play are coming straight to gamepass Payday 3 Texas Chainsaw and Starlight
Original xbox and 360 ripped cd's and you could play those files while gaming. I really liked that feature. A shame that it's now gone.
Yep, but at least you can pop in a CD and listen to it while playing a digital game on the One and Series consoles (which is more than the PS4/5 can do)
@@LopezAlabama wow. I did not know that.
Great video man!