Red Light Therapy Alibaba Review: Too Good To Be True?

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  • Опубліковано 8 лис 2024

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  • @LightTherapyInsiders
    @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +8

    ✅ If you're interested in buying panels from the Alibaba vendor discussed in the video, check this website: redlighttherapymachines.com or go to www.alibaba.com/
    Before digging into this topic, if you're not familiar with my work, then check out some of my best red light therapy resources such as:
    ✅ My epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group
    ✅ Full playlist of my 2022 body panel red light therapy comparison series with all episodes: aferg.co/RLT-2021-playlist - if you're short on time then check out the summary episode towards the end of the playlist
    ✅ My excel sheet for comparing different panels to their competition: aferg.co/rlt-data
    ✅ For my red light therapy buyer's guide blog, follow this link: aferg.co/RLTguide
    ✅ My red light testing methodology for reviews video: aferg.co/rlt-testing-method
    ✅ How I use red light therapy: aferg.co/how-I-use-RLT
    ✅ My playlist with many body panel and tabletop red light therapy panel review: aferg.co/rlt-review

    • @SessleIsosceles
      @SessleIsosceles Рік тому +1

      Alex, do you have any testimonial videos about how you got into RLT , or what it has done for your life? I have been watching your videos to learn about RLT world and decide what's best but they are pricey, what I'm really after is a testimonial about how much life improvement this modality offers. To put myself into context I am after most sleep, recovery and fitness related help including pain (have had surgeries in the past) the claimed skin and hair benefits although amazing and welcome would just be secondary as I know these are proven but I am more interested in all the other benefits and if they stand up to the scientific claims. Can you please either say something regarding this, point me to a video you have on this or even make an in depth video on this ?! Thanks for your efforts !

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +2

      @@SessleIsosceles Hey, great question. Have a look at this video to get you started - ua-cam.com/video/7A4QChe8mcQ/v-deo.html

    • @sicksharkx92
      @sicksharkx92 Рік тому

      @@LightTherapyInsiders how much de EFM value for this?

  • @metatronmen2431
    @metatronmen2431 8 місяців тому +36

    The problem is the US resellers charge you $1000 on top of the cost which is a robbery.

    • @BenjaminHari
      @BenjaminHari 6 місяців тому +6

      Exactly! You're paying quadruple the price for English speaking customer service in case things go wrong. Just pay with Paypal and you're secure from anything bad.

    • @cynimonnn
      @cynimonnn 3 місяці тому

      100% - it's rare to see a cost difference of 100, most retailers are selling the same products for at least 50% more so it's worth the pain of going thru Alibaba in those instances

    • @SunilKumar-ly4cl
      @SunilKumar-ly4cl 2 місяці тому

      Exactly

    • @nomadicexplorers
      @nomadicexplorers 3 дні тому

      I bought the Maxpro 1800 from alibaba during covid and it was $910 usd shipped. Shipping was expensive. It’s heavy

  • @emilysha418
    @emilysha418 Рік тому +44

    Would love to see more of these videos comparing these Chinese panels

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +13

      Cool I'll do some more :)

    • @phototristan
      @phototristan 8 місяців тому +8

      They’re all made in China. It’s just that the companies spec out with the different makers according to their instructions.

  • @maureengreen617
    @maureengreen617 6 місяців тому +10

    Hi Alex, I can't believe I missed this video when you released it a year ago, but I LOVE Alibaba! Sure, it's not the western customer experience we're used to, but since most of the brand panels are made in China, I think it's worth pushing through the site to get a panel at cost. I ordered a tabletop panel, about 9" x12" from Shenzhen Azure Technology Co. for my vacation home and I love it. It has a unique "C"-shaped stand that pivots in every direction, so that I can suspend it parallel to the table and shine the light on my decrepit arthritic hands. 🙄 It was only $60 with shipping another $60 to Massachusetts. As you have dozens of quality panels, you don't have to settle for an Alibaba panel, but for the rest of us--- I definitely recommend ordering direct from the manufacturer. Thanks for testing the power of your panel. That's the only question I had about these things.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  6 місяців тому +1

      Glad it worked out for you!

    • @tonycd2709
      @tonycd2709 6 місяців тому +1

      Hi Maureen, my friend's sister has a similar problem for many years. I'm researching about this RLT. Wish you the best. Please keep us posted. Thanks.

    • @maureengreen617
      @maureengreen617 6 місяців тому

      @@tonycd2709 Hi Tony, I haven’t noticed any improvement in the arthritis in my hands unfortunately, but my full body panel at my primary home is amazing in other ways. I have more energy and stamina than I’ve had in years and my sleep has improved. LLLT hasn’t solved all my problems 😳 but it definitely helps a lot. Best of luck to your sister.

  • @korypostma
    @korypostma Рік тому +24

    Nice to see this, it would be nice to see a lot more of the Chinese panels and how they perform.

    • @loriwysocki4203
      @loriwysocki4203 Рік тому +6

      The majority are mass produced in China for private label. Only a handful of US and Canadian companies produce their own products.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +10

      Yeah I will see if I can get my hands on some more. As @Lori stated - most of the common panels we see are made in China and in fact coming from the same factories.

    • @davemTX2023
      @davemTX2023 6 місяців тому +2

      They perform the same!

  • @radfaraf
    @radfaraf Рік тому +23

    I don't feel like it's much a risk because credit card companies are pretty good at having your back if you don't get what you were promised. I ran into issues before with orders from aliexpress for other products, the support was horrible, but my credit card company made it right. And even though I did run into issues it's after placing many orders over the years, so only a small percentage of them had issues.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +2

      Hey good comment. I suppose at the end of the day it comes down to what the customer values.

  • @rasferrastfarian739
    @rasferrastfarian739 Рік тому +3

    Hey Alex - I'm like you, local, English speaking, warranty cover for peace of mind; costs a bit more - DONE! I took your advice and bought a Rojo 1500 panel here in Australia. Awesome service, great people to deal with. Thanks for all you do in this space!

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому

      Hey, awesome work with Rojo! They have a great team behind them. Yeah I'm happy paying for those conveniences, but I understand not everyone is like that :)

  • @arnoldm889
    @arnoldm889 Рік тому +17

    was emf bad with the panel?

  • @shakazuluzone
    @shakazuluzone Рік тому +12

    shocked this channel doesn't have more subs- great content

    • @karencaron1
      @karencaron1 Рік тому +2

      So true!

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +3

      Hey I appreciate the support and the sub!
      I'm going to put a bit more effort into YT this year so expect to see more (and better) videos.

  • @hackstergirl5644
    @hackstergirl5644 6 днів тому +1

    I just ordered this panel but the version I ordered comes with 630nm, 660nm, 830nm, 850nm leds and it is 1500w advertised. With shipping to the US was like $435

  • @TheXone7
    @TheXone7 Рік тому +8

    I think most of the LRT brands come from China, incl. MITO. But it is not worth the warranty issues to buy from China directly.

  • @chrismarin5333
    @chrismarin5333 9 місяців тому +10

    Have you looked at shenzen idea light limited (the OEM MitoPro uses)?

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  9 місяців тому

      No I haven't, only Idoo Lighting (this video)

    • @SG-vk4cq
      @SG-vk4cq 9 місяців тому +15

      Idea Therapy Light from Schenzhen is a great light. The 300 max and 300 pro is great quality. The price point with shipping is much better than re-branded models sold here in the States. Markup is ridiculous.

    • @kstephenson9465
      @kstephenson9465 8 місяців тому +13

      I bought my red light panel from Shenzhen company from Ali Express, took me 5 minutes to check out, arrived 10 days later, multi-wave, we tested it, loving it

    • @natasha09179
      @natasha09179 8 місяців тому

      @@kstephenson9465did you pay extra for special shipping?

  • @martinzubero9526
    @martinzubero9526 Рік тому +5

    Hi Alex. I just purchased the MitoPro Adapt 1500. Was wondering when you will release your video review of the series. Thanks!

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +3

      Oh awesome. Um it's still going to be a few weeks away unfortunately :( How are you finding it?

  • @CoconutPatel
    @CoconutPatel Рік тому +5

    Oh man, sorry you had to go through a lot of trouble to get the panel. Appreciate the review that much more!

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому

      Ahh it's all good. I'm glad I stuck with it!

    • @MrLardobutt
      @MrLardobutt 9 місяців тому

      It's not that big a deal, I've ordered from Alibaba plenty of times before, if you know what it is and how it works then it is what it is, which is different, not better or worse, different

  • @chocolatefudge5263
    @chocolatefudge5263 10 місяців тому +12

    I dont mind paying premium for the service but not 500 to thousands more.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  10 місяців тому

      Fair enough! Thats why Alibaba is a good option for some :)

  • @Janisg616
    @Janisg616 8 місяців тому +2

    Similar size name brand panel costs not a little bit extra, but 2x or 3x.
    I ordered some very cheap and weak Aliexpress panel (it has 660 and 850nm LEDS and consumes only 25 to 30 W) and something similar to a belt, same wavelengs and power consumption also about 25W. I work from home and can use those products all day long (wile working on computer) to get some dosage from such low power leds. If I like the red light and feel at least some benefits I might be looking into similar Chinese panel as in this review.
    I am confident that those lights will have no negative effects on me, but not sure if it ill have any effect on me, therefore I will try cheap product to see if it is worth to spend 500$ on more powerfull cheap device that promises almost too good to be true health benefits. I think that 660nm and 850nm have the same effect no matter if the panel has a remote control and lcd screen or not.

  • @AllergicToFantasy
    @AllergicToFantasy 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for your great work! It's really helpful for those of us on a budget who don't want to buy the wrong panel. One request please... Could you please not use flashing lights in your data charts? It's very distracting and hard to focus on the numbers. Thank you kindly.

  • @kell7195
    @kell7195 Рік тому +14

    Are you paying a "bit" more for a name brand panel or 100% more? I personally would do my research and buy1 for half price or 2 for the same price, why not it's made in the same factory you are just avoiding paying some middleman half the cost for the privilege of a branded box

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +5

      Hey. Yes some of the price differences are easily 100% or more. But this isn't all profit - it will be covering things such as marketing costs, branding and packaging, manuals, operation overheads, support costs, local taxes and regulation compliances etc.
      I know a lot of people prefer buying local for protection from local consumer laws, faster shipping, the better support and working with a local company. But for those that don't value this, then yeah you can cut out the middle man :)

    • @K9Trixx
      @K9Trixx 11 місяців тому +3

      Platinum LED boxes surprisingly all said Made in China.

  • @bonnie_nelms
    @bonnie_nelms 10 місяців тому +3

    I’m with you. Not worth the headaches and stress of dealing with China.

  • @TheParkBadBoy
    @TheParkBadBoy 6 місяців тому +1

    I have a PlatinumLED BIOMAX 450 panel which I love but I'm now looking to upgrade to full body setup from a Chinese company. The PlatinumLED prices are just way too high! Its time the leading brand companies offer better prices for bigger purchases....Given companies like PlatinumLED are just a web front to a manufacturer in China with little overheads (e.g., no brick and mortar stores) their profit margins must be ridiculously huge! Perhaps pressure from the consumer going direct to the supplier in China will bring about change.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  6 місяців тому

      It's definitely an alternative, so let us know how you make it out!

  • @jingenchin2017
    @jingenchin2017 7 місяців тому +3

    Some Chinese made goods could be copied superficially the original ones, but the quality could not guaranteed.

  • @slowsky74ify
    @slowsky74ify Рік тому +3

    Hi, I'm a LED light therapy enthusiast. I really like your videos. At the moment I own the Dr. Dennis Gross mask and the Dermalux Flex. Now I was thinking about buying a giant panel for the body also because I'm two meters tall. A 6000w panel with 1200 pcs 5w leds. What do you think? I am negotiating with a Chinese dealer

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому

      Hey.
      Thank you! How are you finding the Mask and Flex?
      Your giant panel sounds epic!!! I have something similar but I use 4x BioMax 900s. You can see that video here - ua-cam.com/video/aO2Z7drmFYY/v-deo.html

    • @bigbankyb
      @bigbankyb 10 місяців тому

      Did you have any volume loss in your face?

  • @hussainamina
    @hussainamina Рік тому +6

    Would be interested to know if if still works, 6 months on? (Did anyone use it after this review - if so, can you get feedback off them?)

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +3

      Hey, yeah I can't comment on this as I haven't used it since my review went out! BUT I know there are people in our fb group that are using alibaba/direct from China products. So maybe jump in there and ask them - facebook.com/groups/lighttherapyinsiders

    • @davemTX2023
      @davemTX2023 6 місяців тому +2

      I have some that are 4 years old - work perfectly- I just wanted newer models.They are the same panels, high quality

  • @JohnSmithh644
    @JohnSmithh644 Рік тому +2

    Does it have the screw holes in the back so you could mount it on the biomax horizontal stand?

  • @theresajopson4157
    @theresajopson4157 Рік тому +5

    I too gave up on Alibaba. Going to check the other out. TY

  • @automaton111
    @automaton111 7 місяців тому +4

    Unless you are in the top 10% of income earners in the US, you can’t afford to buy this from a local company. They are basically starving us out over here. A house in the suburbs is almost $1 million now, not to mention healthcare costs, food prices, and everything else here. Yet wages and good job opportunities are low.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  7 місяців тому +1

      Hey, I'm sorry to hear this.

    • @davemTX2023
      @davemTX2023 6 місяців тому +1

      Try Texas, life is good. Lots of high paying jobs. Try DFW

  • @seeingyouontube
    @seeingyouontube Рік тому +4

    AliBaba Express has shipping included in some products.

  • @davemTX2023
    @davemTX2023 6 місяців тому +1

    Mine came with a manual and was highly rated on Reddit and mine is almost identical if not identical to my Mito red at less than half the price.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  6 місяців тому

      Glad it worked out well for you!

    • @alexwolf5547
      @alexwolf5547 6 місяців тому +1

      Which configs mate? Or the reddit link pls 🙏🙏

    • @davemTX2023
      @davemTX2023 6 місяців тому

      @@alexwolf5547 I tried posting the links and they were deleted

    • @davemTX2023
      @davemTX2023 6 місяців тому

      @@alexwolf5547 I posted the links but they were deleted for some reason

    • @ireneamezcua9289
      @ireneamezcua9289 2 місяці тому

      @@davemTX2023it’s because he’s sponsored by all the other brands

  • @julieorr-sf5lu
    @julieorr-sf5lu Рік тому +3

    Hello, I purchased this panel on EBay for £280 with free delivery.
    Delivered in a couple of weeks.
    Do you know how much it will cost now to run for 30 minutes a time.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +2

      Hey, without knowing the exact spec's no I can't answer that sorry. But I do have a video coming out soon that looks at the cost of running RLT panels. And I can tell you now LED's are rather efficient so they don't cost much to run :)

  • @julieorr-sf5lu
    @julieorr-sf5lu Рік тому +5

    Hi just to add to my message below. I bought mine last year, I have had no problems with it at all. I just stopped during it for a while because I'm not sure how much they cost to run with the high fuel cost. Do you have an idea on the cost of running this product say for 30 minutes.
    As far as purchasing from China I thought it was worth the risk for the savings I made, it was half price of other products.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +1

      Hey. I'll have a video on this topic coming out in a few weeks :) Be sure to sub and stay tuned.

  • @siorai1
    @siorai1 Рік тому +4

    Did you check emf ?

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +6

      Hey sorry if it's not in this video I must have missed it. I'm going through and updating my spreadsheet (seen here - aferg.co/rlt-data ) so I'll be sure to add the emf data to this spreadsheet when I'm working on the data for the panel.

  • @prototype9000
    @prototype9000 8 місяців тому +6

    paying over 1200$ for a panel with red leds insane you could build the same for yourself for 10$

    • @nomadicexplorers
      @nomadicexplorers 3 дні тому

      No you couldn’t. You wouldn’t get the strength and wavelengths for that at all let alone the circuit board, power supply, housing with control panel.

    • @prototype9000
      @prototype9000 2 дні тому

      @nomadicexplorers you sure as hell can dont need a circuit board either the leds are dirt cheap powersupplys can be free or cheap

  • @veganandlovingit
    @veganandlovingit 5 місяців тому

    they don't seem like complicated items. Can local electrical repairs fix them if they are faulty?

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  5 місяців тому +1

      Hey, not sure if they can get the parts. It would be great to know the answer to this, though.

  • @Bonnie-Lewis-Australia
    @Bonnie-Lewis-Australia 22 дні тому

    Great review and love the channel - haven’t reviewed the panels you can get off Amazon which is a joy to use compared to Ali - the prices on Amazon are lower cost compared to the others but are they any good ?

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  21 день тому +1

      Will aim to do some amazon panel reviews :)

    • @Bonnie-Lewis-Australia
      @Bonnie-Lewis-Australia 21 день тому

      @@LightTherapyInsiders thanks ! We want to get one as I’m going down rabbit hole of red light therapy and seeing sun rises ! Thanks fir all your great advice babe videos

  • @kmoliere504
    @kmoliere504 Рік тому +2

    @Alex Fergus have you ever evaluated the large panels of American company EXESAS (JKG Industries)?

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +1

      Hey no I haven't but I'll add it to my list for things to look into this year :)

    • @austinfitness1
      @austinfitness1 Рік тому +2

      Just looked at their website. Either they use midgets as models, or they super impose the model next to the light to make the light look much bigger than it is. That deceptiveness alone is enough to put me off.

    • @fredli3357
      @fredli3357 3 місяці тому

      Is EXESAS (JKG Industries) USA local produced or import from China.

  • @laurahome1588
    @laurahome1588 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the review.

  • @ItsAllGodAnyway
    @ItsAllGodAnyway Рік тому +6

    I’d rather spend the money and have peace of mind. I’d worry about off gassing… emf’s…. General quality control…. Fires 😂…. I just want a solid company name backing a medical grade device.

  • @alexpolidori6566
    @alexpolidori6566 9 місяців тому +6

    The big brands just buy from China and personalise them, sell them for 5x the price

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  8 місяців тому +1

      There is some truth to this, but it's not 100% accurate. I have a video on this out soon.

  • @mavolant16
    @mavolant16 Рік тому

    will you ever test the vital red light series (charge, pro, elite) just curious about your thoughts on their red lights

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +1

      Hey, I hadn't heard of them. But I'll do some research and look into reviewing one :)

  • @rl4195
    @rl4195 Рік тому

    Thank you for the comparison.

  • @Eteeee
    @Eteeee 18 днів тому +1

    Mito buys from a company on Albabia

  • @thea4442
    @thea4442 7 місяців тому

    Great video. How long was the delivery from this company? I would greatly appreciate an answer, and of course I am subscribed! :)

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  7 місяців тому

      Deliveries vary wildly depends upon the product. Reach out to them ask.

  • @jingenchin2017
    @jingenchin2017 7 місяців тому +2

    It is a common phenomena that the quality of Chinese made one is inferior to some extent, such as easily out of service and not durable, especially the electronic spare parts.

  • @chocolatefudge5263
    @chocolatefudge5263 10 місяців тому

    I wonder how long they last....

  • @davidtapscott1819
    @davidtapscott1819 5 місяців тому

    O good here we go

  • @JohnSmithh644
    @JohnSmithh644 Рік тому +1

    Yes very nice

  • @suzanneb4187
    @suzanneb4187 7 місяців тому

    Been a while but I found Ali Express much simpler to use..

  • @kstephenson9465
    @kstephenson9465 8 місяців тому +3

    Ali Express app is best, I’m in Australia and I buy most stuff from there, I get refunds without any hassle, sorry Alex, I suspect you are biased and wants to sell your local made RLT for commissions

    • @lgpop3347
      @lgpop3347 6 місяців тому

      Hi, it could be true, but I also have to say that Aliexpress and Alibaba sites are overwhelming, especially for over-analysing neurodivergents like me. :)
      I like the offers - when you know exactly what you want to order, I suppose it's fine.
      Plus, I got some suspect bills in my email and one "kind reminder" for a panel that I never ordered. I didn't react and then it stopped. :)

  • @jimsmith4801
    @jimsmith4801 11 місяців тому +2

    No way> USA all the way!!!!!

  • @ttattx
    @ttattx 11 місяців тому

    Where are the other panels made? I imagined they all made in china

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  11 місяців тому

      Some are made in Malaysia. But the key point with this video was that you are buying direct from China - instead of buying through a reseller.

  • @prototype9000
    @prototype9000 8 місяців тому +2

    this video could have been made in less than a minute and have all the information you waited for

  • @tiny2love
    @tiny2love Рік тому +1

    I dont trust this

  • @uupyerkilt
    @uupyerkilt Рік тому

    $1000 plus really!

  • @uupyerkilt
    @uupyerkilt Рік тому +1

    How much each year do you get for promoting this scam?

    • @ep-79
      @ep-79 Рік тому +4

      What’s your problem

  • @uupyerkilt
    @uupyerkilt Рік тому +2

    so much Bs regarding this.

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +2

      ??

    • @Regirl75
      @Regirl75 Рік тому +2

      I’d tell you my dads story but you probably wouldn’t take the time to read it thus my dedication in finding the best RLT for myself. I appreciate these videos and the effort Alex takes in not only time but the research for each panel. If you want a debate please put all your findings of the ones you’ve researched and USED and let’s talk. If not, I’m sure there is a like minded negative group out there for you somewhere.

  • @uupyerkilt
    @uupyerkilt Рік тому

    Not at all interested as this is such bull!

    • @siorai1
      @siorai1 Рік тому +2

      Which part ? Alibaba or red light therapy in general

    • @4tun8nanette
      @4tun8nanette Рік тому +14

      Then why are you here if you think Red Light Therapy is bs? Are you just bored and needed something to do, so hey, why not go dump some negativity somewhere?

  • @uupyerkilt
    @uupyerkilt Рік тому

    no it is a scam

    • @LightTherapyInsiders
      @LightTherapyInsiders  Рік тому +6

      I don't know what your issue is??

    • @maureengreen617
      @maureengreen617 6 місяців тому +1

      It's not a scam. I have an Alibaba panel and it is quality.

    • @MixtrisUFOimages
      @MixtrisUFOimages 5 місяців тому +1

      how come its taken you 6 different posts to say the same thing? bored are we?

    • @maureengreen617
      @maureengreen617 5 місяців тому

      @@MixtrisUFOimages Life goes better if you’re kind to people.

    • @MixtrisUFOimages
      @MixtrisUFOimages 5 місяців тому

      @@maureengreen617 😇

  • @uupyerkilt
    @uupyerkilt Рік тому

    red light therapy is such bull