Beat It - Isolated Guitars - Steve Lukather & Eddie Van Halen
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- Michael Jackson's 'Beat It' - Isolated Guitars - Steve Lukather (Toto) retro-fitted Rhythm guitar to Michael Jackson's vocal and Eddie Van Halen's guitar solo. Steve also played Bass guitar.
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Would love to hear the stuff Steve had to scrap cause Quincy felt it was too rough and heavy!
Please isolate the guitar track from EVH and LL Cool J " We Are The Greatest"
It will not disappoint...
Steve is a better player than Ed, hands down!
I have met Eddie personally when he walked into my shop in Melbourne (Australia) in 1998. He was by himself, no bodyguard, no friends. Just himself on shopping trip. That was one of the best moments in my life. The rest I don't need to say.
omfg oh shit omfg oh shit omfg.
What did he buy in your shop?🤔
He beat the shit out of you?
Blimey. I probably would have just said 'Here mate, has anyone ever told you you look just like Eddie Van Halen?'
Bodyguard lmao 🤣
We all know Eddie is a legend. It's too bad that Steve never really gets his due. He's a legend in his own right.
Absolutely! Lukather helped me so much when I was learning guitar as a kid. The guy isn't just talented, he's incredibly creative and thoughtful, and his musical knowledge is vast. Lukather is one of the greats!
Luke is getten his due...now. But, It's like the old saying, "if you know, you know."
He gets it in the right crowd, there's not a guitarist with any merit that doesn't recognize Luke's accomplishments and contributions
The problem was the band that he was in. Toto wasn't hard rocking guitar god level music. He was never going to get that kind of love.
exactly! and don’t forget his awesome voice too!
Eddie said he didn't ask for money for that song because it was "only 20min of his time"
And he created one of his (and Michael Jackson's) biggest hits on those 20min
By the way, Eddie and Steve were two maestros of guitar Player in the 80th/ 90th.
R .I.P Eddie
And David Lee Roth never let him hear the end of it, to which Eddie would reply, that he could always get free dancing lessons from Jackson from then on.
Sometimes, I thought probably Eddie refused payment is because he cursed Quincy Jones initially when Q tried to call him to play guitar on this track
Hardly. He played a solo. He didn’t write the song or play the rest of the guitars. Steve Stevens or Vai or any other number of hotshot guitarists could have ripped out a solo.
@@thefonzkiss Actually Quincy Jones told EVH he could do whatever he wanted and he rearranged the song to make it better. MJ wasn't in studio at the time. After listening to the reworked version MJ said "Wow, thank you so much for having the passion to not just come in and blaze a solo, but to actually care about the song, and make it better." Steve Vai, Steve Stevens, or any hot shot guitarist you could name had nothing on EVH in 1983. I'm sorry. Especially not in the pop music format. EVH was not only unpaid but uncredited for years.
Lukather's time and feel are freakishly good. The parts sound like they were mapped to a grid. The guy was/is phenomenally talented.
Well, as a session musician, he's used to reading charts a lot of the time.
Oh absolutely, he's been holding his own in TOTO 👌🏼💯
I think some credit goes to the rhythm section he was playing to (not taking anything away from him, Steve is a beast)
@@347Jimmy Fair enough, though Lukather also played bass on the track, so he was a big part of the rhythm section himself. The musicians on an MJ album were always top-notch, and yes that helps, but there are thousands of guitarists who could've played with the exact same musicians and not have laid it down with the precision and feel Steve did. He was an incredibly in-demand session musician for a reason.
@@BassByTheBay haha I had no idea Steve also laid down the bass track too
Indeed, a bunch of that rhythm section credit does go to him 😄 what a boss
I guess that leaves me with hey don't forget that drummer
Also yeah, _anyone_ gets selected to play for MJ, you know they're the business
Very beefy thing to have on one's resumé
Eddies solo has attitude, sting and vitality. Perfectly matches the vibe of Jackson's masterpiece
Not really, there was some work done afterwards. Would have been great if the raw solo was on it. The song was made fit for the solo.
@@kuminamojasource?
@@fawder1014 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_It
LA’s greatest two imo.
Lukather is a fricken monster and Eddie, well we all know Eddie was. Most people don’t realize Lukather had a hand in EVERYBODY’s music in the 80’s across all genres. Two of the greatest improvisers ever. Real virtuosos !!!
Everybodys music, yes!! He has the talent of 20 guitar players. He can do it all!!
Luke has said in various interviews that he did guitar work for a lot of popular rock bands that he can't name due to non-disclosure contracts. I am assuming a lot of "hair bands" where the guitarist(s) couldn't hack it in the recording process so they bring in Luke and say here's the tune, they play it once, then Luke just riffs off for one or two takes and he's done. They make him sign a ND form and pay him extra and that is that.
Hopefully someday he will let it spill who all these bands were. Give him credit where credit is due.
Look up Africa Toto Burbon Peridot to understand how important Toto is.
@@ORLOSTguy Steve Lukather, Jeff Porcaro, David Paich, Mike Porcaro, & Steve Porcaro were all full time session players and at least one or more of them, from the late 70's into the 90's, were represented on almost every chart topping hit & Grammy award winning record during that era, not to mention their own album TOTO IV which netted them 6 Grammy's in 1983 including Best Album & Best Song (Roseanna).
@@MrHabart I'm fully aware of their history. I have been a fan since 1978 and followed their career as Toto and as individual musicians. They are an amazing group of people as well.
How freaking versatile is Lukather?
One of the best!!! Most shredders don't have the rythym chops Luke has. He has, and can do it all. Thats why he's on over 2,000 top hits from the best era in music. I was so lucky to be there as all this great music came out live. From every genre too!!! Never again folks, it's not possible!!
He played the bass as well on this track 😅
As a session musician, he must be
@@vintagemetal Yeah I had heard that and then I saw an interview that he did with Rick Beato and he told the whole story about Beat It. Unreal.
He’s a top AND bottom
Easily the most recognized solo of the entire 80s. Truly insane that he did it in a matter of minutes for free. Eddie knew in advance that it would be part of music history.
Sweet Child of Mine is up there.
I've watched interviews where Edward says he didn't think anybody would know about it. He didn't think Thriller was going to be well, Thriller. He said and this is paraphrasing his quote he didn't think anybody would notice if he did a solo on this little black boys album. He figured it would be a one-off and nobody in the band would ever hear about it.
@@maryannsullivan7724na
All of the Michael Jackson isolated tracks out there are simply amazing. Michaels voice sounds amazing of course, but there's SO much great musicianship going on outside of Michael.
While I agree, alot of these sections, including the main riff were sung to Lukathar, which shows how much Michael had in his head from the start. Still, alot of work outside of MJ went into these incredible tracks as you say.
Yeah, ask any super successful CEO how to run a super successful business and then you'll understand why there's an obvious connection to MJ
and other great successful artists.
@@RashidLanie8what? 😂
quincy had MJ often track 8 lead lines on stuff as well
Steve's guitar parts are amazing. Both heavy and funky at the same time. You can see why he was so in demand as a session player. Eddie's guitar solo is perfect of course.
Eddie's solo is so crisp. What a legend. Saw him in July 1979 when I was 14.
Because Lukather and Porcaro spend a whole night to get it right for the track
Truly remarkable indeed.
I met Eddie at a lunch-in back in '90. The first thing I thought about Eddie was "Wow! This guy eats with a fork!". truly a clean eater. I managed to have a convo with him about the menu. Humble fellow he is when it comes to this n that
@@kuminamojaEddie did the solo in 2 takes 😂
It's amazing how little breakup/distortion there actually is when you hear the isolated rhythm guitar track without the bass and drums!
Thought the same thing. The tracks sound surprisingly lame anyway, compressed to death.
However, when I go back to the full mix now, I can't un-hear it.
It's all ruined. 😂
there's usually a lot less distortion on everything than people would think.
@@mmonkeyman1403 Yes and no. Less amp distortion maybe, but it can be dirtied up in many places in the chain after the amp.
Rookie guitar players almost ALWAYS use too much distortion, saturation, overdrive or whatever you call it. Then wonder why their guitar has no punch and gets lost in a mix.
@@russellnotestine6436 Yep! That's me :D
0:28 I never noticed that part before! That could easily be the main riff of a different, funky song.
Pretty sure that's Paul Jackson Jr. playing that part, he's awesome!
Stevie Lukather is a veritable monster session musician. King Edward, nuff said. 🎸👍😎
Goosebumps when Eddie comes in! All legends every one of them
That solo made me want to learn guitar.
@@Bhud-so8zz that solo made me want to quit guitar
Ed's solo is absolute art.
I was an assistant engineer at Westlake Audio in 1987. I had the task of making one to one analog safety copies of MJJ's Thriller and Off The Wall masters in studio E all alone. I made a personal 2 inch copy of the song Beat It. Scotch 250 reel w/Dolby A .
That's RAD. I've been to Westlake studio with musician friends for their tracks. It's beyond impressive to see their reels in motion.
I confessed this so I have a clear conscious. Glenn Phoenix the original owner wasn't very nice to me.
That distortion sound for the solo is the one and only kind. Love that guitar sound. Good old Eddie. Beat it solo is also one of the great solos of all times. They dont make great solos in pop music like that these days. And of course Bravo to Michael as well. I can never get bored with listening to Beat it.
I would love to hear Lukather’s first version which according to Quincy Jones was too heavy. Luke gave him a crunchy metal version quadruple tracked. Quincy apparently said it wouldn’t work for pop radio if it sounded that heavy. Ha! I’d have loved it more!
you can hear a lot of background noise because he ended up using a Strat with low gain pickups, it wouldve sounded miles better heavier
You and me both ! I play this song in a band and I play it with heavier tones and it sounds awesome !😁👍
can you imagine, making music just for "the radio"... and that's how is ee jackson, just a pop singer going with the flow of what radios and the masses want.
@@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 Watch the interview with Lukather, Michael came up with the riff, Jackson defined what the listening public wanted.
Probably a lot more chugging
There is something important to clarify. People always talk about Lukather and Van Halen in this song and always forget the guitarist Paul Jackson Jr, who recorded all the rhythm guitars.
Beat It Credits
Performers
Michael Jackson - lead and backing vocals, drum case beater
Paul Jackson Jr. - rhythm guitar
Steve Lukather - lead guitar, bass guitar
Eddie Van Halen - guitar solo
Steve Porcaro - synthesizer, synthesizer programming
Greg Phillinganes - Rhodes, synthesizer
Bill Wolfer - keyboards
Tom Bahler - Synclavier
Jeff Porcaro - drums
Greg Smith - Synergy synthesizer
Production
Michael Jackson - songwriting, co-production, rhythm and vocal arrangement
Quincy Jones - production, rhythm arrangement
Don't forget that Eddie got arrangement credit too
Essentially Toto then with a guitar hero and a strange pedo singer!
Paul Jackson Jr is so underrated 🙁 yet I immediately recognized his clean jazz chorus sound and his own game
I had no idea there was other guitarists on this track. I just assumed it was all Eddie.
so Steve - riff
Paul - rhytmn guitar
Eddie - solo
These need to be saved somewhere like a mummy in Egypt.
Who Michael Jackson?
@@cruzadosbandofficial1057 lmfao!
Great back story on this song regarding Ed's solo. He was given the song with the finished vocal tracks to do the solo with but he cut the solo on 2 inch tape and it was out of sync with the original tape/tracks. Essentially most of the song had to be re recorded to the new tape as they did not want to do the vocal tracks again. Steve Porcoro listening with headphones and tapping his sticks created a click track so the rest of the song could be overdubbed in again. Lukather had to do the overdubbs twice as on the first ones he used Marshalls and lots of double tracking and layering to which Quincy said it was too much and told him to do it over with his Fender deluxe.
@pathook11 Thanks for expanding on this! I had heard that what Steve received was 2 tapes where tracks 24 on each, reserved for the SMPTE time-codes, didn't sync. The rest exactly as you describe. Amazing what they managed to achieve considering.
It was drummer Jeff Poracaro not his brother Steve Porcaro, a keyboardist, who helped put the song back together with Steve Lukather. Steve Porcaro did write Human Nature and did other work with Michael on both Off The Wall and Thriller.
Ahh so you’ve either recently watched the Beato interview or the Sunset Sound interview lol.
@@allthingsclassicrock Not sure if your response was for me but yes, I've seen both of those videos but knew about the story from hearing Luke tell it for many years. I've been a fan since 1978 and have heard a ton of stories and even met him numerous times. He's a great guy. Humble, funny and so very talented.
@@ORLOSTguy it was for the original poster. But thanks for sharing, Luke seems like a real dude I’m glad to here he’s really like that in person.
The isolated tracks are gold! But this photos of the 2 then- young axemen is PRICELESS!!!
Eddie was a magician. Just incredible talent.
Luke made the song what it is, though.
So crisp and clean. Eddie is the greatest. End of story. Long live the King!!
Thanks for listening
Thanks to the hard work of Luke and Porcaro. They re did everything over night to make it all fit
Edie made the solo guitar, all other parts was Steve Lukather, that's why they both are in the pic
Eddie's tone on the solo is just unreal
To me, this was possibly the coolest moment in pop rock music, ever. The best blending of studio perfection plus the best of live wild man music. There was enough for EVERYBODY! And unless/until another EVH caliber musician comes along, it will never happen again.
It was the perfect storm. All parties involved were already wildly successful, so the pressure of needing a big hit wasn't there. They were free to give the finger to the music business.
Lots of people saying how Steve Lukather doesn’t get his due and how he is overlooked such, but damn he’s literally known as the best session guitarist of all time. He’s widely regarded as the most prolific session guitarist of all time. I think he’s very well appreciated, just don’t expect him to be looked at the same way as Eddie Van Halen - because that’s not even an apples to apples comparison
Friend, lukather is very comparable to eddie, for me and for many people Lukather is the best guitarist in the world, by composition, recordings, collaborations, technique. Lukather is a legend and it is true that he is not recognized as he should be recognized, Lukather should be recognized just as Brian May, Van Halen, Clapton and many more are recognized
@@lukel9340 idk. Van Halen might be underrated if anything. He literally innovated finger tapping hammer-ons. His technique was so new at the time that people doubted he was actually doing it on a guitar or even in one take. No one played like that before him! His style is a major influence on rock/metal guitar soloes to this very day. Lukather didn’t really innovate anything, was just really creative and solid within the confines of what was already available to him. People like Van Halen and Jimi Hendrix - in my book - stand above all others in the rock guitar space, and I don’t think I’m alone in thinking this.
@@jjmah7 definitly wrong. EVH didnt invent it, Steve hackett from genesis was doing it seven years before that, and Paganini was know to do it on violin and guitar in the 1800s. in the first half of the 20th century many jazz and country players were doing it on guitar and banjo. EVH was a good player, but not exceptional, or innovative, just popular.
@@michaelreifenstein2114 I didn’t say he invented it. I said he ‘innovated’ it. And if you aren’t aware of his contributions to the technique then you have lost all credibility in this conversation.
That's what I keep thinking. Steve lukather is a legend to all guitar players. He gets plenty of praise.
Two of my favorite rock guitar players right there…
For us that want to do home recording, this is how guitars sound! We chase the polished finished guitar sounds, this is real!! What an eye opener..
Agree 1000% .. we all try get that “record sound” … but, hearing this, there are frequency changes, level changes, little mistakes and I even think a heard an intonation issue at one point. The acoustic vamps/strums in the middle even seemed just slightly out of time in places perhaps.
Most home studio guys are big into over producing. Layering and multi tracking instruments when it’s not needed … and fixing every single little flaw.
I knew a guy years back, did a bunch of work from his home studio - and for a guitar, he would take at least 3-4 feeds (raw guitar out the Jack), a feed from the pedalboard output, an output from the signal out of the amp, and a room/amp mic.
And then stereo everything - and blend and pan each track.
Just goes to show you that its all about the MIX. People don't realize how much Michael Anthony's bass tone altered the perception of what Eddie's OG tone was. It was honestly quite a clean Marshall sounded with little to no low end, but the bass tone (and the rest of the mix, honestly) altered the public perception DRAMATICALLY.
This isolated track just goes to show how silly guitars can sound, but how great when part of a track. I don't think anybody would pick Steve's guitar sounds on this record to play or practice with... but this is a pop record, not a rock record... I forgot!
Ear openers. And the first time I realised it was when i got my first digital recorder, a yamaha, that had a demo song. The song was fantastic and when I isolated the drums they sounded flat and normal. In the mix, everything was amazing...
one takeaway is the absence of any tones below 400hz. this is so the mix doesn't get muddy. Standalone, I'd boost that bass to make the guitar sound fat, but I've done plenty recording, the opposite applies. weird
I love how crap the isolated tone is on a lot of classic guitar tracks. It’s all about the mix!
Yep lol it's all about putting the frequency puzzle together.
his first version was 4 tracked marshalls panned hard left/ right, the producer told him it was too heavy sounding so he re -tracked two small fender amps instead.
Most monster guitar tones sound quite thin and weak by themselves on studio recordings.
If the guitar sounds full in iso itl probably be scooped out for vocals drums and bass. Less lower mids,
More high mids
right? gotta just kill the low frequencies otherwise it's just gonna be MUD when you throw the kick drum and bass guitar in...
2:26- 2:58, damn he can sure make that guitar sing, cry, whine and bark, like it's a living thing, just amazing!! No one can truly play like EVH!! May you rest in piece!!!
It's why he's my alltime fave. He took Hendrix' bombast, energy and fire and fused it with the speed and accuracy of the 70s fusion cats like Holdsworth and made it all his own. Him and his brother Alex were also jazz dudes when they were younger so he had a really good sense of melodic line and hooks. He was never "shred" just for the sake of it.
@@TheBoondogglerHe didn't have the speed and accuracy of Holdsworth. Ed was probably my favorite guitarist, but he wasn't nearly that technical.
Two amazing players. I also get goosebumps listening to the outro solo on Lionel ritches running with the night. The history on that one is amazing too. Steve went it and just ripped the solo before he thought he would play the version for the song they would use and Lionel said they would be keeping it. When you listen to the way he played it still to this day it’s clear he was just such a talented improviser to do something like that on a first take.
Steve's recent interview with Rick Beato on YT is well worth a watch if you haven't seen it.
@@IsolatedTracks2024 yeah I watched it. He is a great guy. Big fan. He has played on so many tracks people don’t know he did !
It wasn’t a first take, it was a zero take he was just messy and Lionel was taping it unbeknownst to Luke, when he was ready to do a take they said nope we got it go home.
@@MrDuds1984 well that’s what I meant. A zero take would actually mean he didn’t do it at all 👍🏻
@@amdforlife5591 the iconic muted rhythm guitar on Quincy Jone's "Just Once" featuring James Ingram on vocals, was Steve Lukather... btw, David Foster played piano on that too... with Patti Austin singing all backing vocal harmonies.
RIP Jeff Porcaro who made it all possible ❤
He had a pocket and groove most drummers dream about. A true drummers drummer, and the whole music world knew who he was!!
@@scotabot7826 Jeff and Luke saved this song and album
Steve calls him Sensei
@@wpochert
“Saved” the entire album? You realize Quincy Jones produced it, right? He kinda knows what he’s doing.
@@Fakename70 and who did Quincy call to bail him out when the album sounded like shit and beat it was ruined ? Steve Porcaro, Jeff Porcaro, and Steve Lukater ....you telling me that if beat it was cut from the album things would have been the same...its THE most important track on Thriller
Great example of a seasoned studio musician doing "the job" as the song needed with a very precise and crisp lead and rhythm parts. Then it all comes tumbling down with EVH working fast and loose during that solo really falling down the stairs and landing on his feet as he put it. Really a cool combination. I've covered VH songs from the 80's and it's hard to nail down the chemistry Ed and Alex had as far as timing and it's a shame we don't have analog pure music like that anymore.
This is such a great track! Two legends in the studio creating magic!
That solo is so crazy
Steve Lukather from Toto played all rhythm and clean guitars licks and riffs. Luke also played the bass on this track. Eddie Van halen played the solo. All well documented
Lies … I did it all. I was even Michael Jacksons double for years. Guess you never noticed that either. Last 20 years of his carreer he was away on holiday and I was doing the heavy lifting, feeding orangutans and fondling my balls on stage and what not.
All that info is already included in the video description.
@@RicG. Remember back in school when there was always that one kid who would chronically repeat what teacher just said, usually opening as if they are trying to understand or confirm something:
Teacher: * says the thing *
That one kid: But isn’t it right that it’s like *repeats everything* ???
Teacher: * pained * yeess
Class: * Silence, numb faces - a wall of awkwardness, sound of crickets *
That one kid: * beaming proudly to everyone, not feeling it *
See pic above ⬆ and video description.
Steve also assembled the solo, because Eddie played random phrases . You can hear the cuts
Um dos solos mais bonitos que existe.
Two amazing guitarists.
awesome guitarplaying.
What an expressive solo !
This is Eddie at his best. Timeless
Wow! Thank you so much for uploading this. It is getting more than 309,000+ views, and it just shows the impact and legacy of MJ's music, but the pure brilliance of Steve Lukather and Eddie Van Halen. "Beat It" is one of my favorite song! It crossed all genres, and it even played on Rock stations in the U.S. "Thriller" opened doors for artists of color to get to mainstream, and defied the 1980s decade. Toto are a dynamic and legendary band. I hope in the near future that they will be nominate and induct into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Their contribution as A+ in-studio session musicians, working with A+ artists, and as a band is phenomenal.
RRHOF has proven time and again to be a sad joke.
Toto not being inducted already says it all.
They have people from the last 20 years in there but not from 40+ years ago with more talent and larger portfolio. Smdh.
@@surfersilver6610 I could not agree with you more on what you typed here. It's so true.
Legends of guitar
One of the best rock solos of all time
BOTH...
absolute..
M A S T E R S !!
🎸🎼💯👏🔥💣❤✊
the sound that guitar exhale, is the magic..........more than chords and the solo
Priceless
Beat it is such an amazing song because it’s so simplistic, but all of its character and individuality comes from effects and attitude by the performers.
Whether you are a MJ fan or not. This is one of the best guitar solos of all time...
Mj had a knack for nice riffs in his songs. Scream has a cool solo, it’s really short but sweet. They don’t care about us has some nice riffs in there . He also don’t like a rock singer more then pop at times
Totally agree.
Nothing but hooks and drones before the solo and nothing but hooks and drones after. A true masterpiece whereas nothing gets in the way of anything else in the mix. Legendary!!
Lukather and Porcaro did the mix. They re did the tape and re build the song. Eddie deserves credit for the solo, but the other two deserve more then they get for it
Amazing!!!
So cool
Both of them are great guitarists! That being said, SL's solos, to me, are more interesting because of his emphasis on melody. His solo on Earth Wind & Fire's back on the road again has it all. Raw energy, tone, attitude, and melody.
Steve Lukather may not be "as fast" as Eddie Van Halen. But it's not just about speed; Lukather's compositional skills are out of this world...
Better than any history book!!!! Amazing to have these. Thank you so much!!!
Glad you like them!
the different tones for the different part of the song are spot on. Brilliant engineering 🔥
There's all the guitar talent right there. Nuff said!
It's a magical song, and shows the example of the guitar being used, almost as a percussion instrument; which was Lukather's special talent. Music should be made like this sometimes, but I don't think anybody does it anymore. Van Halen's solo shows years on the road everyday; precision.
"I just thought I was helping some black boy make a record" - Eddie.
Um dos trabalhos de guitarra mais emblemáticos que Michael Jackson teve em suas canções. O meu sonho como guitarrista amador que sou é um dia executar esse solo.
I couldn't imagine being in the same room with Eddie and Steve and hearing them play. Awesome!!!!!
Awesome
Awesome tracks and photo 🎸
This is guitar history right here.
I could stay here and listen forever.
Great song
A photo of my 2 favorite guitarists. Ed was first for me. 1978 was a great year! Then I became aware of Luke a few years later.
2:25 As David Lee Roth used to announce Eddie Van Halen on stage “ The king of 10 fingers and 6 strings”.
breathtaking
What a riff... masterpiece
Weird Al having him explode at the end of the solo was beyond perfect
The common thread shared by both of these greats… they’re fundamentally rhythmic players first, shredders second. Thanks for posting - super interesting!
No problem!
So true, even of Ed. I was never a fan of his lead work after 1984, at which point (to me) he lost the fire and originality of those first 6 albums. But his rhythm playing never lost that timing and bounce that drives so much of VH’s greatness. Songs like Amsterdam , Poundcake, and Summer Nights make the point - no leads that compare to I’m the One or Romeo Delight or many others from the old days, but fantastic, toe-tapping rhythms nonetheless. For my money, the best right hand in rock guitar history.
Steve's cold-as-ice rhythmic precision paired with Eddie's fiery fretboard pyrotechnics: a match made in Heaven.
Goosebumps during just about every second!
Both innovators and both on such a class piece of work 🤘🇬🇧🕊
Wow! pure perfection!!
The side-chain compression on the reverb for the main riff is dope
Both are great players, but Ed really kills it on that solo.
Both Steve Lukather and Eddie Van Halen are exceptional guitarists in their own right. There contributions to music will be remembered by all for all time. To the many around the world 🌎 those that come after these fabulous guitarists become the best that you can be.
Excellent!
Steve Lukather is so in the pocket he’s a machine
Luke is so deep in the pocket, all you can see is the top of his head...
actually it's a body. i used to struggle with timing , pocket and groove until i just learned to dance with my body and face when i played. big difference. my mistake was TRYING to be a machine. but i get your comment , too, I've used drum machines and DAWs for thirty years now...
I'm honestly surprised by how thin the guitars sound while isolated. With all the ingredients of the whole song it clearly sounds monstrous. There's a LOT I need to learn about appropriate mixing.
Well its dance music, with a ton of synth... different genres have thicker guitars.
Has a fair bit of subs on it
@@necroticpoison I'll sub YOU
@@necroticpoison By which I mean "Thank you for the information. You're a good person who deserves good things 👍"
yes, I ve noticed the same, the mixing makes magic. I remember to have heard isolated guitars of Owner of a lonely heart, and the sound of guitar riff sounds really thin and even without an amplifier conected to the guitar
Steve plays percussion with guitar. Great musician
Unos genios gracias por a ver existido.!!
Paul Jackson Jr. also played rhythm guitar on the track.
2:26 - 2:58! I do not know how often I rewind the cassett tape only for this part! Never heared it in this isolated perfection. Eddy is a god.
I still have the Thriller album on vinyl. I played that solo so much that you can tell where it is just by glancing at the record.
Surely one of the greatest and most memorable solos ever.
Gênio da guitarra, solo maravilhoso
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This so cool! I never notice the clean octaves before!
I still don't notice them.)
Seriously?
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They come in for the “Show ‘em how funky and strong is your fight” bit from the chorus.
@@Fakename70 Thank you! Heard in headphones.
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Excelente...
This is piece of music history 😯
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Every piece of music is a piece of music history lol.
Producer: Hey Eddie, come play a solo here.
Eddie: Hold my beer
very clean.
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The most missed lick among everybody covering the solo is that pick slide at the end. Everybody either glosses over it or butchers it. I don't think people understand that Ed's pick slides were as much apart of his playing as his tapping, whammy bar, trem picking, etc.
Steve is a beast in his own right. He's a phenomenal session player and has a long list of credits most people don't even know about.
Always loved those...
You are correct about Eddie Van Halen's pick slides. Every sound he got out of his guitar was part of the music. I always tell people the best part of the "Runnin with the Devil" guitar hook is the two muffled quick percussive strums in the middle that propel the rhythm with the bass and drums. Know what I mean, Jerk?
@@CribNotes I do know what you mean. And that is a spot-on analysis. Ed was such a complete player. I feel people don't focus on his rhythm playing enough.
Funny I'm hearing you say this as I just watched a female cover the solo and skip the slide. What was she thinking?
fun fact: i know that eddie mentions 'wired' as an inspiration by jeff beck., but if you listen to 'rough and ready' , from 1971, you'll hear those legendary pick slides that Eddie generously borrowed. Ya, you'll also see that in the live version of that album on youtube. it's weird, because i grew up listening to Wired and loved it , of course, but i think eddie might have been shy about mentioning 'rough and ready', because there's a lot of stuff that he aped from beck's playing, which is just fine, by me. the adage is 'good composers borrow, great composers steal'...
I was obsessed with Van Halen's playing at the time because he came out with a new sound. Although he didn't invent tapping, he was doing something with it that hadn't been done before. I once read a music journalist say that Van Halen put the Hollywood sheen on guitar playing & I thought that hit the nail on the head. Absolutely everyone started mimicking him. Even the mainstream pop bands of the time started hiring session musicians to add an Eddie - style solo to their songs.
I was so bedazzled by Eddie's playing that it clouded my judgement. All the old players seemed to be instantly redundant & outdated and I remember (at the time) thinking Steve Lukather was an inferior player. He wasn't of course. If anything he was technically superior but he just didn't have the originality that Eddie had.
I don't listen to Eddie's playing these days. I grew tired of it decades ago but it's good to dip back into things like this to try & remember how it made me feel at the time.
There is just something about Edward that no other guitarist in history has and it's almost impossible to explain but I'll give you an example of what I mean . The great Steve Vai used to be at Frank Zappa's house all the time where Dweezil Zappa was also always around , not surprising of course he's Franks son for God's sake. Despite Steve always being around and playing amazing guitar Dweezil was absolutely OBSESSED with Eddie , that's all he talked about . When Eddie visited the great Jason Becker at his home Jasons parents told Eddie that Jason says you're the greatest ever . That's how it still is and was with tens of millions of other up and coming guitarists , no matter how many other amazing guitarists were around everybody including every guitar publication on the planet focused and obsessed over Eddie . It's not his tapping either, I listen to tons of his stuff that has no tapping at all and it still floors me . He was the whole package, a true freak that wasn't from this planet . He changed everything . There was just something that he had that even to this day nobody has or ever will have.
When I want a taste of the ultimate guitar playing I put on some headphones and listen to those early albums , it still drops my jaw how "Off the charts" amazing his rhythm and lead playing is. Listen to VH when they toured in 1978 , the live shows sounded IDENTICAL to the first album .
@@herbcanter2114 I can only think of two guitarists who completely changed the trajectory of guitar playing - Jimi Hendrix and Van Halen. Others may have added new twists and turns but Hendrix & Van Halen completely took it in a new, jaw-dropping direction. I can't see that ever happening again because what else can be done on a guitar? I was a bit too young to appreciate Hendrix as he happened but I lived through the Van Halen chapter when I was in my teens and early twenties. Kids today can't appreciate the impact Eddie made on the music scene. We hadn't heard anything like it before. It was like a UFO had landed and an alien walked out showing us new technology.
As Brian May said it. We knew tapping before Ed, but he made an art from it!
@@alexanderdimitrov9045 - There’s something more going on than merely tapping. Notice the two striking things about Eddie’s isolated soloing track: listen to how expressive and quick he is in his improvisation - how effortlessly he switches between phrases, and also how his hands have a vocabulary. At 2:56 he even throws in a quick David Lee Roth “yeeow!” vocal style phrase. Without having lived and breathed guitar, those kinds of things just don’t occur. Elliot Easton in my opinion is as good a player as Eddie because of the way there are little vocal-like accents that just happen when Elliot plays. The main difference between Elliot & Eddie is that Elliot shines on guitar in short bursts, while Eddie can just keep blowing your mind with his playing all day, and do it while grinning, like it was easy…
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He’s the Good Will Hunting of guitar.
Classic!!!