@@theoriginalkrabbypatty yeah and thats why also sign up for a second job. Bc all of corporate has normalized below livable wage, and it's accept two jobs, or have none and starve
@LockBresnarKymus okay wait- let’s say this office job isn’t worth a high pay. The point of the video is she needs a second job to live. If the one job doesn’t pay her enough to live then the company has no right to complain abt her having a second job. And if it’s ‘simple’ enough then that means her second job is fine bc clearly it doesn’t effect her current work What lies at the bottom of this mess however is that the employers don’t want her to have other options of livelihood prepared for if they don’t give her proper working conditions or enough pay. They’d rather have you stay another 2 weeks of taking on 3 peoples work for one persons salary before getting you replaced for another young person with low boundaries who will then repeat the cycle of finally leaving
There was one case I heard about where I 100% side with the company. Though, as a rule of thumb I am with the employees. An employee had their college paid for by the company. Then, they quit that company and went to work for the competition. They were the biggest brat about it too. Claiming them asking them to stay was slavery and the company had no legal grounds. This is one of those this is why we can not have nice things type of moments.
@@jaeshasway Except 99% of jobs aren't a conflict of interest. If I agree to work at a place from 8am to 5pm, that has precisely nothing to do with what I'm doing during those other hours. Unless I'm working for a direct competitor, employers can mind their damn business. And maybe reconsider their pay rates.
I think the problem would have occurred when they asked about whether or not their employees had a second job. Sounds like they're asking inappropriate questions in the first place.
Not necessarily, during the hiring process most companies have clauses that include secondary work , I know I had to disclose after work activities that might conflict with my primary responsibilities I accepted those stipulations along with 3 interviews & drug, credit background checks
Exactly. Unless there are regulatory and compliance laws that require disclosure, none of their business. And tbh, I work in a field where we *do* have those regulatory requirements. Guess what? As long as we do our research and avoid working for our clients, to avoid an illegal financial conflict of interest, *HR DOES NOT CARE* and they report the data in the system, confidentially, and we go on about our business.
@@thorr18BEM I know that's a thing in some places. Most U.S. states are at-will. There is no contract they have to stick to. You can quit or they can fire you over almost anything.
When I worked at K-Mart I also worked as a nighttime stocker for Target. My HR Manager for K-Mart started talking to me about conflicts of interest and stuff like that and I just flat told her my interest in money and there is no conflict there then got back to work.
I had a coworker that worked at Target with us and at the Walmart down the street. I was the only person he told because he knew I wouldn’t tell anybody. 😆
Unless this second job us with thier competitor they have no right to ask. I would tell them that the crap salary you pay me means if I dont have a second job then I would starve.
Managers when they need to find more work for you: Bruce Wayne Managers when they need to find the money to pay you for your extra labor: Inspector Gadget.
Wow, their one-sided-ness is on another level..They "can't" at all times, but you "should" comply to what they want WHEN they want , just like that huh?
Translation: "If you have other options, then you might figure out how crappy we treat you and how little we actually pay you and we can’t have you being informed or else we lose the amazing deal we get by having you work harder for us than you are being paid."
I had a boss in the 90's that wanted me to sign a non-compete after I was employed. I tokd him sure... we could talk about my increase in wages in that case. He had no concept regarding quid pro quo.
Employers do not own us. That manager needs to go her actual damn job. What she gonna make her stop from taking care of her kids when she's off the clock. Ill gladly poit out that this is not Russia!
"Believe you me, I too would love to not have a second job, but I do have to pay the bills and I haven't had a raise here in 3 years. If that's what you want to talk to me about, I'm absolutely happy to have that conversation, we can come up with a number for my salary increase, but if not then I'D prefer that you only worry about my work here in my time here and I'll worry about my other job at my other job, as I've been doing."
Years ago, I had the new hotshot manager of the place I'd worked at for 7 years call me in and tell me that I'm being switched to salary because I'd "had it too good for too long" by drawing overtime for working 50 hours a week 😂
Worst thing are the employees that lease people long term, offer 10 hours a week and then say that you can't work for anyone else. And then they're surprised people don't stay on for long. 🤷♀
WORSE mistake this year telling my boss / coworkers i was on track to get a second job.. 2 weeks later they pulled out before my start date: Cant make more money than them no no no
"Yes, I have a 2nd job. But the company doesn't approve? It sounds like this company doesn't like having a worker who shows initiative or is a problem solver."
I had a colleague that was half time and had been for years. She had a second job in another university. They decided that nobody could have a second job, and it would be grounds for termination if the dean found out. She took that letter to the other place, negotiated a full contract and quit effective immediately. Left on a Friday, didn't even pick the phone on Monday. 😂 And THEN, recruited three other colleagues out from under that same dean to work at the other place, under much better conditions. Even the department chair left. It was glorious 🎉🎉🎉
Companies don't want their employees working more than one job because it reflects poorly on what they're paying, and sends a bad message to the public. And, by keeping you "focused" on their position, it further enslaves you to them because you need their job even more.
Because if you have a second job, you're not under our thumb comfortably enough. We can't abuse you, exploit you or take advantage of you to our hearts content if you have income even without this job.
Chipotle turned me down for a job, because I told them during the interview, that on my free time I ride along with my trucker friend and I am in the process of getting a CDL.
I cannot imagine working from 9 to 5 and than go to another job 😮 like...how you got the mojo for that? I work a basic level corporate job in germany and this one salary combined with my husbands salary is more than enough to make a living... And we have a kid as well... where the job situation is this crappy? 😢
Welcome to America: we have no rights and the “land of the free, pull yourself up by the bootstraps” rhetoric that our government tries so hard to push is nothing but a barefaced lie in order to keep the masses fooled and complacent. You only matter and have a voice here if you are wealthy enough. Everyone else gets the gulags.
America has been hollowed out by narcissists. They designed a country where their own capitalism no longer works as supply and demand. The money is printed and funneled straight to the narcissists at the top, and as the money gets more and more useless, the narcissists charge Americans more, but pay Americans less. As Americans slow down their purchasing, the narcissists panic and raise prices and keep cutting pay. So teachers stop teaching, farmers stop farming, etc. So America is where the job situation is this crappy.
“....if that makes sense.” This is probably just one of the latest HR/management buzzword/-phrases. I’m not exactly up to date on the latest of these, but I seem to remember a few years back “paradigm” and “going forward” were pretty hot. I’m not sure how this bullshit spreads. Maybe thru a break-out session at conferences.
This is like the second or third animation I've seen tied to this audio. Nearly the same style, but clearly different. Very annoying, and hopefully the original creator gets their proper credit soon.
Conflict of interest was the keyword. If there is a conflict then you can't have a 2nd yob. Otherwise, no problem. Sign the non conflict form and move on.
And the employee would prefer to be paid enough by job number one so they don't have to take job number 2. If you're in a shitty job with a shitty company then you're second job is a lifeline if you have to quit or they fire you.
They’re fine if you have a full time job with them and go to school. Why are they bugging out about a second job? Because you might have a better place to land? Same when you finish a degree. The logic doesn’t logic.
Id just shut down the conversation. Where i come from, everyone knows how different people tend to live their lives, and id threaten so sue them for racism since people like me try to have 2-4 jobs at a time, just out of cuktural expectation. Everyone knows the rules, we each have our own codes to live by. So itd be a threat taken very seriously. Maybe most places there's no way to make that sort of case, but where im from theres so few people and the people that are there adhere to be as similar as possible to each other. If theres a stereotype, we cling 90% to it. So theres actual precedence here. Anyway id just shut down this conversation quickly and surgically.
Stop stealing content from Vxo13 ✨The Real Veronika✨! Your entire channel makes money off of stolen content. You're even telling people she works for you, that she IS you! She is not and this is theft.
Another dumb reply by Veronica. She needs to ask if she did the same activities on her own time without pay would they be of equal concern? She should ask if it’s OK with the company if she starts training for the Olympics And then I would start coming to work completely exhausted. Then the company would say well we would see that in your focus and productivity. Veronica would say, yes, exactly, so are you seeing a reduction in my focus and productivity as a result of my second job?
the actual smart things to do is NEVER have these conversations in person or on the phone. Only communicate through toxic employers via email that you can document. Start refusing any conversation in which your words can be twisted
Don't say "guys" when the people include females, that is, "gals." Guy is a masculine gender. This country is losing its English language through informality, ignorance, and false familiarity.
The masculine gender, in grammar, covers it all. Words like "mankind" mean all humans, and so forth. It's really not worth getting your shorts in a knot. Now there's some fun language.
Just say, ‘ok’. Tell her what she wants to hear and do nothing. She’s comes back, do the same. Unless it was stated in an employment contract that the employee only work for the company then too friggin’ bad. Then you have to watch everything like a hawk though because they’re going to be looking for reasons to ‘make an example’ of you for nothing related to how you actually did working for them and can say, ‘x had 2 jobs and we all know what happened there.’ Everything is ridiculous. 😣
Pay enough so that your employees don’t need to work a 2nd job.
Lol that won’t happen with maximizes profits for shareholders
You know what the salary is when you start right?
@@theoriginalkrabbypatty yeah and thats why also sign up for a second job. Bc all of corporate has normalized below livable wage, and it's accept two jobs, or have none and starve
@LockBresnarKymus okay wait- let’s say this office job isn’t worth a high pay. The point of the video is she needs a second job to live. If the one job doesn’t pay her enough to live then the company has no right to complain abt her having a second job. And if it’s ‘simple’ enough then that means her second job is fine bc clearly it doesn’t effect her current work
What lies at the bottom of this mess however is that the employers don’t want her to have other options of livelihood prepared for if they don’t give her proper working conditions or enough pay. They’d rather have you stay another 2 weeks of taking on 3 peoples work for one persons salary before getting you replaced for another young person with low boundaries who will then repeat the cycle of finally leaving
@@theoriginalkrabbypattyinflation is a thing and wages don’t rise. So that job you got 2 years ago, no longer pays enough to pay your bills.
The "conflicts of interest" line is always about their interests, not yours.
🙄 That's the meaning of the definition. That's the point.
There was one case I heard about where I 100% side with the company. Though, as a rule of thumb I am with the employees. An employee had their college paid for by the company. Then, they quit that company and went to work for the competition. They were the biggest brat about it too. Claiming them asking them to stay was slavery and the company had no legal grounds. This is one of those this is why we can not have nice things type of moments.
This is why you always ask them to provide specific scenarios complete with demonstrable examples of that cited conflict.
As long as job #2 doesnt interfere with Job #1, it doesnt matter what job#2 is
Some jobs make you sign a conflict of interest agreement. My coworker was let go because he was working 2 whole entire jobs during the day. 😬
@@jaeshasway
Except 99% of jobs aren't a conflict of interest.
If I agree to work at a place from 8am to 5pm, that has precisely nothing to do with what I'm doing during those other hours. Unless I'm working for a direct competitor, employers can mind their damn business.
And maybe reconsider their pay rates.
I think the problem would have occurred when they asked about whether or not their employees had a second job. Sounds like they're asking inappropriate questions in the first place.
Not necessarily, during the hiring process most companies have clauses that include secondary work , I know I had to disclose after work activities that might conflict with my primary responsibilities I accepted those stipulations along with 3 interviews & drug, credit background checks
No its illegal. After x clockout, they can't ask you about your personal time
@@edwinrodeo You signed up for an abusive relationship.
Thank you.
Exactly. Unless there are regulatory and compliance laws that require disclosure, none of their business. And tbh, I work in a field where we *do* have those regulatory requirements. Guess what? As long as we do our research and avoid working for our clients, to avoid an illegal financial conflict of interest, *HR DOES NOT CARE* and they report the data in the system, confidentially, and we go on about our business.
"I'd like you to not have a 2nd job."
Well, I'd like not to NEED a second job to live, thanks.
On some level, I think the manager knew exactly what Veronica was going to say.
😉
Yeah it’s like she literally took the words out of her mouth 😅
Amazing that board member's and CEO's can be on multiple boards though, and getting paid to be on all those boards.
I have no obligation to tell a company if i have a second job
Unless you sign an employment contract stating you will.
@@thorr18BEM I know that's a thing in some places. Most U.S. states are at-will. There is no contract they have to stick to. You can quit or they can fire you over almost anything.
When I worked at K-Mart I also worked as a nighttime stocker for Target. My HR Manager for K-Mart started talking to me about conflicts of interest and stuff like that and I just flat told her my interest in money and there is no conflict there then got back to work.
I had a coworker that worked at Target with us and at the Walmart down the street. I was the only person he told because he knew I wouldn’t tell anybody. 😆
@@umberwyldwhy is it a secret tho????
If you don't want your employees to have a 2nd job, then you need to pay them enough they don't have to work another job.
Cry a river
She is necessary and needs to be protected at all cost.(even though she always seems to do a good job of that on her own.)
I’m can’t wait for that cliche to run its course.
I LOVE these animations. I’m hooked! Sometimes we forget our rights and unfortunately employers have been taking advantage of us.!
Unless this second job us with thier competitor they have no right to ask. I would tell them that the crap salary you pay me means if I dont have a second job then I would starve.
Managers when they need to find more work for you: Bruce Wayne
Managers when they need to find the money to pay you for your extra labor: Inspector Gadget.
Second one is more like,Mr. Magoo
Wow, their one-sided-ness is on another level..They "can't" at all times, but you "should" comply to what they want WHEN they want , just like that huh?
No one WANTS a second job. People have them because their first job, pays like shit.
"Listen, girl, I completely get where you're coming from...."
Yeah, no you don't.
Veronica: The hero of the over worked and under paid.
Translation: "If you have other options, then you might figure out how crappy we treat you and how little we actually pay you and we can’t have you being informed or else we lose the amazing deal we get by having you work harder for us than you are being paid."
I had a boss in the 90's that wanted me to sign a non-compete after I was employed. I tokd him sure... we could talk about my increase in wages in that case. He had no concept regarding quid pro quo.
There is no conflict of interest, she wants to survive, and they (presumably) want her to be alive to do her job.
Employers do not own us. That manager needs to go her actual damn job. What she gonna make her stop from taking care of her kids when she's off the clock. Ill gladly poit out that this is not Russia!
Pay me a decent wage and I will not need a second job. Now now mind your own business. 😂😅
The conversation would end immediately after I ask "how is this your concern"?
I don't care what you prefer. When I'm not at this job I can do whatever I want. I don't need your permission or for you to be ok with it.
Veronica became a ventriloquist for a second there, lol. 😂😂
1st most people prefer would prefer 1 job. 2nd mind your damn business or pay more $. Otherwise please, please be on your way. 👋🤗
"Believe you me, I too would love to not have a second job, but I do have to pay the bills and I haven't had a raise here in 3 years. If that's what you want to talk to me about, I'm absolutely happy to have that conversation, we can come up with a number for my salary increase, but if not then I'D prefer that you only worry about my work here in my time here and I'll worry about my other job at my other job, as I've been doing."
"... If that makes sense."
There are always scary sounds in the backgrounds of this channel
I must say V is a bit of an idol🏆 we need more people like her so employers will know their limits.
Years ago, I had the new hotshot manager of the place I'd worked at for 7 years call me in and tell me that I'm being switched to salary because I'd "had it too good for too long" by drawing overtime for working 50 hours a week 😂
Worst thing are the employees that lease people long term, offer 10 hours a week and then say that you can't work for anyone else. And then they're surprised people don't stay on for long. 🤷♀
Sounds like a Cult mentality😅
Where do you think the corpos got it? 😂
😂”At all.”
Conflict of interests wouldnt be there if they paid correctly!
jeez these corp people are low key politicians 😂😂😂😂😂
This job is my 2nd job.
The other place is my 1st job.
Watch the look on their faces.
I have not and better not have any manager open their mouth to say any such thing to me. {Kiss teeth}
I've Fell Into The Veronica Rabbit Hole...
I Just Keep Watching These Videos " If That Makes Sense " 😂😂😂...
WORSE mistake this year telling my boss / coworkers i was on track to get a second job.. 2 weeks later they pulled out before my start date: Cant make more money than them no no no
Non compete clauses no longer hold up in a court of law, so … 💅
“Boggled” down? You mean Bogged down I think.
"Yes, I have a 2nd job. But the company doesn't approve? It sounds like this company doesn't like having a worker who shows initiative or is a problem solver."
I had a colleague that was half time and had been for years. She had a second job in another university. They decided that nobody could have a second job, and it would be grounds for termination if the dean found out. She took that letter to the other place, negotiated a full contract and quit effective immediately. Left on a Friday, didn't even pick the phone on Monday. 😂
And THEN, recruited three other colleagues out from under that same dean to work at the other place, under much better conditions. Even the department chair left. It was glorious 🎉🎉🎉
Companies don't want their employees working more than one job because it reflects poorly on what they're paying, and sends a bad message to the public. And, by keeping you "focused" on their position, it further enslaves you to them because you need their job even more.
Where's the original audio come from?
Because if you have a second job, you're not under our thumb comfortably enough. We can't abuse you, exploit you or take advantage of you to our hearts content if you have income even without this job.
The audacity!
Chipotle turned me down for a job, because I told them during the interview, that on my free time I ride along with my trucker friend and I am in the process of getting a CDL.
I cannot imagine working from 9 to 5 and than go to another job 😮 like...how you got the mojo for that? I work a basic level corporate job in germany and this one salary combined with my husbands salary is more than enough to make a living... And we have a kid as well... where the job situation is this crappy? 😢
Welcome to America: we have no rights and the “land of the free, pull yourself up by the bootstraps” rhetoric that our government tries so hard to push is nothing but a barefaced lie in order to keep the masses fooled and complacent. You only matter and have a voice here if you are wealthy enough. Everyone else gets the gulags.
America has been hollowed out by narcissists. They designed a country where their own capitalism no longer works as supply and demand. The money is printed and funneled straight to the narcissists at the top, and as the money gets more and more useless, the narcissists charge Americans more, but pay Americans less. As Americans slow down their purchasing, the narcissists panic and raise prices and keep cutting pay. So teachers stop teaching, farmers stop farming, etc. So America is where the job situation is this crappy.
@DarkXie That was a bit uncalled for.
@DarkXie You a Trump supporter? You sound just as ignorant.
@@TheMusicalElitist he's a Zionist Jew. Trump supporters don't take his name in vain
“....if that makes sense.” This is probably just one of the latest HR/management buzzword/-phrases. I’m not exactly up to date on the latest of these, but I seem to remember a few years back “paradigm” and “going forward” were pretty hot. I’m not sure how this bullshit spreads. Maybe thru a break-out session at conferences.
Well then you need to pay me more then huh, so I don't need to have a second job
A living wage.
Credit original creator of this content
This is like the second or third animation I've seen tied to this audio. Nearly the same style, but clearly different. Very annoying, and hopefully the original creator gets their proper credit soon.
Who is the original, please?
😮😮I worked in a job that had one guideline about 2nd jobs. There could be no conflict of interest, that was it.
And that’s your business how? Pay me more than!
So pay her what ahe earns at her second job.
You're not a team player? LMFAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So, move out the way and let her work?
who's the original artist??? I keep seeing various channels reuploading this content
Me too. Different animations and channels but the same audio
NOT THE COMPANIES BUSINESS > PERIOD
Don’t fuck with Veronica.
Unreal-sarth channel seems to have the same videos.
Conflict of interest was the keyword. If there is a conflict then you can't have a 2nd yob. Otherwise, no problem. Sign the non conflict form and move on.
One place I worked my co-worked danced at a strip club. Some weeks she made more $$ there than at desk job. Between serving drinks and dancing.......
Oh no it's not about pay. It's about keeping the employee vulnerable so they have no place to go and so you have to put up with their SH!T.
And the employee would prefer to be paid enough by job number one so they don't have to take job number 2.
If you're in a shitty job with a shitty company then you're second job is a lifeline if you have to quit or they fire you.
They’re fine if you have a full time job with them and go to school. Why are they bugging out about a second job? Because you might have a better place to land? Same when you finish a degree. The logic doesn’t logic.
The balls.....
🤣💎
Where's the credit to the original Veronika?
Nope. If I want a second job, I will inform you via email and do it.
🤭🤭🤭🤭
No employer would tell a single working mom to quit their job as a mom to “focus” more on their day job. At least I hope not 😂
My question is Why are people commenting here? Who see's it? What difference does it make? Go volunteer somewhere.
Id just shut down the conversation.
Where i come from, everyone knows how different people tend to live their lives, and id threaten so sue them for racism since people like me try to have 2-4 jobs at a time, just out of cuktural expectation. Everyone knows the rules, we each have our own codes to live by. So itd be a threat taken very seriously. Maybe most places there's no way to make that sort of case, but where im from theres so few people and the people that are there adhere to be as similar as possible to each other. If theres a stereotype, we cling 90% to it. So theres actual precedence here. Anyway id just shut down this conversation quickly and surgically.
Are you going to help people focus on paying bills and eating
Sounds reasonable to me.
Stop stealing content from Vxo13 ✨The Real Veronika✨! Your entire channel makes money off of stolen content. You're even telling people she works for you, that she IS you! She is not and this is theft.
Minimum wage needs to be raised to $25 an hour everywhere. Then we can discuss 2nd jobs.
That's bidenomics for you 😂😂😂 it is really working... you to the bones
Nothing to do with Biden and everything to do with corporate greed which has been with us for decades.
Please join us in the real world.
Another dumb reply by Veronica. She needs to ask if she did the same activities on her own time without pay would they be of equal concern?
She should ask if it’s OK with the company if she starts training for the Olympics And then I would start coming to work completely exhausted.
Then the company would say well we would see that in your focus and productivity.
Veronica would say, yes, exactly, so are you seeing a reduction in my focus and productivity as a result of my second job?
the actual smart things to do is NEVER have these conversations in person or on the phone. Only communicate through toxic employers via email that you can document. Start refusing any conversation in which your words can be twisted
Don't say "guys" when the people include females, that is, "gals." Guy is a masculine gender. This country is losing its English language through informality, ignorance, and false familiarity.
The masculine gender, in grammar, covers it all. Words like "mankind" mean all humans, and so forth. It's really not worth getting your shorts in a knot. Now there's some fun language.
Just say, ‘ok’. Tell her what she wants to hear and do nothing. She’s comes back, do the same. Unless it was stated in an employment contract that the employee only work for the company then too friggin’ bad. Then you have to watch everything like a hawk though because they’re going to be looking for reasons to ‘make an example’ of you for nothing related to how you actually did working for them and can say, ‘x had 2 jobs and we all know what happened there.’ Everything is ridiculous. 😣
Give credit where credit is due. Stop using other peoples content (in this case the voice recordings). Credit #therealveronika @therealveronika
@customerserviceacademy ATLEAST CREDIT THE ORIGNAL OWNER!