"I'm salaried, so it doesn't make sense for me to do it." Actually, since you're not authorized to pay overtime, you're really the ideal person to do it.
Isn't that why they created the salaried position in the first place? So they would have people available 24 hours a day 365 days a year without having to pay them more? Which is why I will never accept a salary.
I love how she’s the only person that matters in this scenario. The manager isn’t a human because they are salaried… all rules apply to her, but just her.
This is how corporations operate. Manipulation, Deceit, Disassociation and Fear are the four pillars many large businesses are built and balance upon. They tell you "we are all a Family" but they quietly, in a sub-paragraph, define what they mean by 'family' if that definition isn't outright hidden from view. They allow all sorts of rumors to be spread, even resorting to spreading a few of their own about where the business currently is and how its future propects are looking without every confirming a single one until backed into a corner and they do their best to never be backed into a corner. They are constantly making changes to the contracts of singular groups such as Logistics, or Quality or Front Line but these changes are NOT unilateral so they are playing the "Divide and Conguer" game getting the various hourly departments to be at odds with each other so they can continue to operate unobstructed. Any change to be made where the majority of the employees are supposed to appear to have a choice is made with a vote that will contain MORE than one item. In order to approve of the change the majority wants, they have to agree with all the changes posed and some will be just a single sentence that is the agenda the corporation really wants. They will, when nothing else works, resort to intimidation that layoffs are in the offing, future contracts are in jeopardy, and the future of the company is uncertain so that they need everyone to 'step up' and go the extra mile for the foreseable future. These problems evaporate when the deadline approaches if the corporation has succeeded in bullying enough employees to achieve whatever goals the company needed to address their lack of planning.
Its funny how they always desperately need things, that they're never desperate enough to pay for. They ask, because they're vampires, who will take your last drop of blood, if you let them.
When I was a CNA at a nursing home, there was a lot of pressure to work overtime! I mean, I get it, and I don't envy the supervisor for her position, but she begged me to stay overtime once when I had just gotten back from being home sick and I did not want a relapse. And thankfully, when I did work overtime, I got paid accordingly. But that's not a place where you want to be asked to work overtime! On the flipside, my boss at a hospital I worked for as a lab courier had her moments where she ticked me off, being insensitive, but thankfully, she never pulled anything like this. She gave me a heads up like a week in advance or something one time when she would need me overtime for a week straight, so I had time to stock up on tv dinners. And I could count on one hand altogether how many times she had asked me to work overtime. The times she asked me on the spur of the moment, it was inclement weather and I had to stay overnight there anyway because of the heavy snow. So I would be there anyway. She was always fair about overtime and only asked me when she absolutely needed me. So I was happy to do it. Besides, there's no contest between just collecting specimens that were already drawn and entering them into the computer, and trying to take care of up to 18 residents, some of whom were very feisty!
I want to work but not be expected to have experience for the job is their job to train us and get us credit for that job. We need to demand corporate shutdowns over shitty ceos
Why? Because society is full of cowards and chumps that will do it. They've convinced themselves, and are trying to convince the rest of us that allowing yourself to be abused equates to good work ethic. They call people who expect a proper work-life balance, or to be fairly compensated lazy. In truth, they lack spine and are afraid to set boundaries. Even my grandfather knew not to let any employer or business partner take advantage of him, and he would work circles around any of these people.
@@SerenityLoman Exactly..how are you supposed to get experience if no one will hire you without experience..i dont think they understand how things work
@@trailman20 That's why corporations are shutting down they are losing people to hire, plus their company is going under due to CEO being stingy with money, when they do have the funds to pay people. Also blame the elites in our world if we erased them and the middle men, our economy would decrease back to 50s prices. Get rid of the the evil first.
I wish my industry was allowed to unionize. We have absolutely no protection and constantly get stomped on so you either take it because that’s just your industry or you quit and find every other job in your industry is exactly the same.☹️
@@nwj03a 😂 Actually, no, you don’t know me. I’ll pass on the use of AODA. My experiences as a union worker afforded me the opportunity to become a licensed therapist. It motivated me to get my degree and credentials, so that I could work with clients who have co-occurring disorders. I am still happily representing and fighting for the rights of others not to deal with maltreatment, prejudice, other discriminatory practices, bullying, and harassment in a different professional environment. How about you? How are you helping others, aside from making asinine comments on UA-cam videos that promote learning about employee rights? Hmmm? 🙂
Gotta share my fave story on this topic. By supervisor informed me that they wanted to have the crew work on saturday. I declined as i had a date planned with my girlfriend. He said they needed me to come in because the first aid worker had plans for the weekend and none of our others guys are licensed for first aid. I guess my girlfriend would understand me being the only one who can do the job and the overtime pay would be helpful. You're not getting overtime. Am I getting paid for first aid wage? No you're getting your usual pay. Okay, i guess I can do that since first aid is just manning the first aid station and taking care of issues. No, we need you to do your usual job as well. ..... ..... ..... So you want me to do an entire day of overtime for regular pay, at a rate $6 an hour lower than the guy who usually does the job, do my usual job on top of covering that guys job, be the only worker with no first aid available in case of injury, do all this because he has plans, and want me to cancel my plans to accomidate this? No thanks. You're going to keep all these guys from working tomorrow? No. You're going to keep all these guys from working tomorrow because you want me to give up my date, take increased job risk, and no pay benefit. All the workers were there to witness the entire exchange and were looking at my supervisor like they were expecting him to fire me on the spot. Long story short, my girlfriend and I had a great day at butterfly world and a lovely dinner together.
My company tried something similar. Asked us to occasionally cover 4-hour long shifts on sunday, and that we would be able to recup those hours in the following week. I did it for a while because it allowed me to basically take off fridays & therefore have 3-day weekends the following week. After a while, they tried to schedule me for more sunday shifts than I had initially agreed to & told me I was only allowed to take the recup time the monday right after my sunday shifts. Needless to say I told my manager I would no longer be doing sunday shifts.
Remember: employment is a 2-way trade. The company does not own you, and you are free to dictate the terms of your employment. Not all employers will be willing to accept your terms, so there are tradeoffs in both directions.
@@cameronno6039 But it's still not a net even transaction. Yes, Veronica is getting paid for the time, but she values the time in ways other than just the monetary wage. The company isn't offering to compensate her for her dog being fed later, etc.
Had a manager at a place I worked ask me to stay over one night. I said sure I can do that. Then she proceeds to ask me to take a couple of long lunches in order to burn the OT off. I just said, "No thats ok I will just take the money because I could use it." She proceeds to tell me she will get in trouble if I don't burn the OT. Now normally I am a pretty fair person and understand people get into a bind and I don't mind helping out, but I also get paid by the hour and at that point not a whole lot...so I look her in the eyes and reply with, "What you are doing is illegal, if I choose to burn my OT its on me, if you ask me to burn my OT its on you and at this point I could call the labor board and we could discuss this further, now I am willing to stay for the OT, but if you are not going to let me keep it then don't ever aske me to stay over again." Oddly I was never asked again and to top it off 3 weeks later this manager got herself fired somehow. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
I think your manager got fired because of utter incompetence and also because no one above her had her back and all were glad to see her go. She doesn't sound very bright. (I wonder how she ever got the position in the first place? It would be in her job description from DAY ONE to know and practice the basics of employment law. I bet she lied through her teeth to get that job.)
When I was a CNA I used to get asked to come in on days off and I would have to ask for a different day I usually worked off in exchange. If they could not accomodate I simply said no I cannot come in then. My days off are my days off. I will get no less than what I'm owed lol
And one would presume that the charge nurse or whoever was scheduling was paying attention to the number of shifts you worked and when you worked them. But from experience--both in care centers and in hospitals--I know that the left hand of the SAME PERSON had not the faintest idea of what her right hand was engaged in. The stupidity was breathtaking.
The usual corpo speak rebuttal is ''if you want to progress in this company, you need to be a team player''. Don't fall for this. Unless you're paid or are adequately compensated, then just refuse. The people asking you would never do it for free (unless they're complete nutters). It also sets a bad precedent. Do it once and they'll expect it again. More often than not, management will not even respect you for it. They'll see you as weak and gullible.
It’s true there is a fine balance between being smart and climbing and being dumb and taken advantage of. You need discernment and life teaches you but I can 1000% say if any employee did what these cartoons show, they wouldn’t make it far in any job that pays well
@@xandercrew6088 Yeah, there's a way of going about it. Getting combative over minor requests is rather petty. That being said, companies which regularly expect unpaid hours from their staff can go to hell. I respect the younger generation for pushing back on this.
Why would they ever promote you? If they did, then they have to train you for your new role and train your replacement. There is no advancement anymore. Unless they need a scapegoat.
Yep. That's called the "if you do this, there'll be free beer tomorrow!" school of management. There is, in fact, no free beer EVER, and even if, by some miracle, you do end up getting promoted (which you won't), just remember they'll then expect YOU to be the one who has to cajole and bully people into working for free.
I'm a salaried employee and work 70 hours a week..I wish I hadn't taken the position because I'm literally expected to do this. As an hourly employee I would be paid more for the same amount of work.
@@bobbyadamson3154 wish I could. I'm expected to work late if my hourly employees can't finish within their scheduled hours, and if I don't, then there will be actual consequences for customers who lost a loved one.
I absolutely love Veronica! Thanks so much for teaching people how to deal with greedy employers, corporate & civil service. They both get away with the same ****.
I had this happen once. Someone was sick, and they called me on my day off to come in and cover, so I did. Then, on Friday, they told me to stay home, because they couldn't pay me overtime. The next time they called me to cover, I said 'nope!'. They couldn't understand why.
Love these videos. I would say the same things at my corporate job. And because of it I was black balled. Like something they called a lateral move. Which was basically more work without an increase in pay or promotion. I would say no. And I would get the not being loyal to the company. I said if you were my lawn maintenance person and i paid you 100 to cut my grass then i ask you to cut trees, paint my house but i wasn't paying you anymore would you do it? They'd say no. Well then im saying no too
I had a supervisor at one of my last jobs, got “promoted” and ended up being switched from hourly to salary. After she got this “promotion”, I swear all she could say about it was complaints: had to stay extended unpaid hours all the time, got swamped with even MORE work when they already had her spread paper-thin (something this particular company had a habit of pulling on all their employees), and STILL wasn’t making nearly enough money to live as she informed me several times. I straight up told her she got scammed. And yet despite all this, she was a total executive bootlicker and yes-man, completely drank up the corporate company koolaid bs and would eat trash if the CEO ordered her to. Girl was the perfect sucker.
Salaried workers are usually paid soooo much more than hourly workers. Nevermind access to more benefits, potential bonuses, and just all around better treatment. Hourly folks are propagandized to feel afraid of it because "ooooh the company owns youuuuuu" but really. Do they? You can tough out a year or two and then take that fancy little title, which is more akin to dogshit wrapped in tinfoil, and get into a better company and just keep failing upwards.
Salaried positions offer more benefits (usually) but still are generally mandated to have a 40 hour maximum. They can actually get overtime in many places. I don't know if this is a federal mandate or state-specific though. Regardless, videos like this generally show a one-sided view with little context of the other side.
No pay, no work. You stay later for free out of misplaced loyalty, then you come in late AFTER, they try to dock your pay. Been there, done that, learned to say 'no".
@@austindecker7643 They weren't asking her to work without pay. They were asking her to stay late, and then either come in late or leave early on the following day.
The twilight zone is you misunderstood the video. She authorized the employee to stay later today to arrive later or leave earlier the following day. It would have been a net even hourly expense. Now, whether that transition fit into the time of the subordinate employee to justify the time in traffic or impact on life is another thing entirely. Obviously, both sides needed to agree, which is fine/ appropriate. I'm just saying this video did not imply anyone was to work unpaid.
OMG all this time, I thought it was just me calling out management like this. For the longest, I've been labeled "not the team player", when I'm constantly asked to go above and beyond my duties and hours. I use to say yes A LOT, but now that I'm older, I realize how management lovvvves to take advantage of "yes" people without any additional benefits.
In healthcare, they would force you to stay late, because if you leave without relief, you are abondenjng the patient, and then they would send you home early later on the week of it is slows
You cant abandon your job, outside of scheduled hours. the law directly applies to walking out during your shift. What you are talking about is ownership, which is illegal in civilized nations.
@@DellikkilleD You can't leave patients in an unsafe condition. Healthcare rules are not your standard conditions. Hints why a healthcare site was not allowed to strike or change employers until the hospital was covered or could evacuate their patients. Call it what you will, but I am sure you don't want your spouse or child dead because of a worker disagreement.
At my dad's first promotion, he was then salaried, and his takehome went down because he was no longer getting OT. It corrected itself over the years, but the first step, was a step down.
Never have this issue, but I’m in a union. If I stay after my shift for any reason I am getting paid ot, even if no one asked me to stay. I just have to be able to justify why I stayed late in that case. When I was in the military I had situations kinda like the video, except you don’t get to say no.
I was at a gathering with someone who has a business. I stated that time stealing means at the end of a shift you refuse to pay if things run over is theft of services provided by employee. They got very silent.
I retired a year ago and I do not miss the work world and don't like to think about it. However, I take a vicious kind of pleasure in listening to Veronica refuse to get played. I wish I had Veronica on my side 10 years ago for the last chapter of my career, which got weirder as time went on.
What does that have to do with this video where they offered the subordinate employee to stay later today and leave or arrive earlier the following day to balance the hours?
@cameronno6039 Technically, the hours are not balanced. Once the employee goes over 8 hours in the same work day (in California), they go into overtime. If the paycheck does not reflect that, the company can be fined.
As a teacher and a union leader, I ran into this problem many times. In the past, teachers in our district were paid to work on curriculum development after school. We had a great curriculum director, who really did her job well. When a new superintendent came on the scene, she did away with this practice, and fired the curriculum director. Then she asked the teachers to 'volunteer' their time after school to work on this committee. Her reasoning was, they had to cut the school budget, and were hoping teachers would be 'team players', and do it for free! The teachers said, "Nope!" Suddenly, money was found to pay them!
"Hey, do you think you could stay longer tonight, for no additional pay?" asked the manager. "No, isn't it your job to step in and do the work where it's needed?" replied the employee. "Well, I'm salaried, so I'm not going to be paid more if I do it. It just wouldn't make sense if I worked it." The manager explained. "Well, I'm not getting overtime, so I'm not going to be paid more if I do it. It just wouldn't make sense if I worked it." The employee concluded.
The accuracy of the villains is frightening. What is more, the people represented by the villains don't know they're villains. That's how villainous they are.
This is the kind and nice way to say no, me I just give them the cold hard facts. My time away from the job is more valuable then over time pay, shame some of my co workers got used like slave labor by an inability to say no.
I listened to the whole thing, and I paid particular attention to when overtime pay was mentioned. I am entirely in support of working for overtime pay, and if overtime isn't available, then it’s crystal-clear to me that overtime work is not something about which the manager seriously needs to keep talking to the employee. (Hey, it’s obvious to ME.) 😁
Always hated when companies did this crap. I would work over to get the job done only to be into my 3-4hr of an 8hr shift friday and told to leave early as to not go over. So essentially on the days i stayed over, id screw my personal life free time to help them out. Only when it benefits them but not you. As of this year so much ppl call out, i told my store manager and operations manager. Wouldnt it be nice if someone "Me" who is dependable show up for the shift? But ill only takevthe shift if you dont try and take or cut my earned O.T by weeks end. Agreed... that O.T looks real nice on payday!
Thank god my company doesn't do this they are the most flexible i have ever seen a company. Small business and family owned. Casual dress anytime, no OT required, can take off time when you want , flexible with doctors appointments or any other family matters, can leave early come in later as long as you let your department manager know. We aee absolutely spoiled. Not to mention great pay and benefits!!
I have salaried employees as I am one myself. If one of my employees had to stay late, I would more than happy to make an adjustment for them on any day that they choose. This is ridiculous! Just ridiculous!
Something similar happened to me … my boss asked me to stay late and help out one day thinking that I’d be getting OT for the week… but the next day she asks me to leave early since I had done my 40 hrs
@@samellison4452trust me I feel the same way. But you can have degrees, or even everything it takes to fulfill a promotion. But if you haven’t done the grind with the team, you’ll get no credibility. Hence you will more than likely stay right in your spot. It’s just the way it is. In a review, they will tell you “Thank you for being super flexible, you are truly a team player”.
Plenty of people have done free work only to be passed for a promotion and offered just a measly 3% annual raise because a higher amount "is not in the budget." Promotions are not guaranteed. In the meantime, there are many people, especially post pandemic, that have switched jobs and gotten promotions and much bigger salary increases.
Weve been told to only work our shift. If it goes over were supposed to take a longer lunch. Not even leave early! I asked if i should apologize to a customer and call a manager when my end of shift alarms go off so they can take over. Granted, they can't do my job. Only one other person in the store comes close. No, no, no! Stay and just cut the next day! Im hoping the last day of the week involves a customer at 30 minutes before shift end so i can call the manager and let them know im leaving on time as i had been instructed to do. Im tired of their snift. Thirty minutes equates to $10 in my case. Go after those who are hiding and staying late.
"I'm salary, so I won't get extra money for staying late, either. But I really would like for you, the hourly employee, to stay late for no OT pay... even though you already make less than I do." Gtfoh 😂
"I'm salaried, so it doesn't make sense for me to do it."
Actually, since you're not authorized to pay overtime, you're really the ideal person to do it.
Facts 💯
Exactly!
That’s the entire reason they MAKE people salaried!
And that’s precisely why I never accepted a salaried position. 😆
Isn't that why they created the salaried position in the first place? So they would have people available 24 hours a day 365 days a year without having to pay them more? Which is why I will never accept a salary.
I love how she breaks that shit down and explains why it ain't happenin😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love how she’s the only person that matters in this scenario. The manager isn’t a human because they are salaried… all rules apply to her, but just her.
This is how corporations operate. Manipulation, Deceit, Disassociation and Fear are the four pillars many large businesses are built and balance upon.
They tell you "we are all a Family" but they quietly, in a sub-paragraph, define what they mean by 'family' if that definition isn't outright hidden from view.
They allow all sorts of rumors to be spread, even resorting to spreading a few of their own about where the business currently is and how its future propects are looking without every confirming a single one until backed into a corner and they do their best to never be backed into a corner.
They are constantly making changes to the contracts of singular groups such as Logistics, or Quality or Front Line but these changes are NOT unilateral so they are playing the "Divide and Conguer" game getting the various hourly departments to be at odds with each other so they can continue to operate unobstructed.
Any change to be made where the majority of the employees are supposed to appear to have a choice is made with a vote that will contain MORE than one item. In order to approve of the change the majority wants, they have to agree with all the changes posed and some will be just a single sentence that is the agenda the corporation really wants.
They will, when nothing else works, resort to intimidation that layoffs are in the offing, future contracts are in jeopardy, and the future of the company is uncertain so that they need everyone to 'step up' and go the extra mile for the foreseable future. These problems evaporate when the deadline approaches if the corporation has succeeded in bullying enough employees to achieve whatever goals the company needed to address their lack of planning.
Its funny how they always desperately need things, that they're never desperate enough to pay for. They ask, because they're vampires, who will take your last drop of blood, if you let them.
It's always "an emergency" and "really important" until they gotta pay you, and then it ain't worth the $30.
I had a nursing supervisor who was a hawk on overtime, like she owned the company..
When I was a CNA at a nursing home, there was a lot of pressure to work overtime! I mean, I get it, and I don't envy the supervisor for her position, but she begged me to stay overtime once when I had just gotten back from being home sick and I did not want a relapse. And thankfully, when I did work overtime, I got paid accordingly. But that's not a place where you want to be asked to work overtime!
On the flipside, my boss at a hospital I worked for as a lab courier had her moments where she ticked me off, being insensitive, but thankfully, she never pulled anything like this. She gave me a heads up like a week in advance or something one time when she would need me overtime for a week straight, so I had time to stock up on tv dinners. And I could count on one hand altogether how many times she had asked me to work overtime. The times she asked me on the spur of the moment, it was inclement weather and I had to stay overnight there anyway because of the heavy snow. So I would be there anyway. She was always fair about overtime and only asked me when she absolutely needed me. So I was happy to do it. Besides, there's no contest between just collecting specimens that were already drawn and entering them into the computer, and trying to take care of up to 18 residents, some of whom were very feisty!
Pay your employees for their work! Gosh darn it why do they expect people to work for free and then complain that “people don’t wanna work”
I want to work but not be expected to have experience for the job is their job to train us and get us credit for that job. We need to demand corporate shutdowns over shitty ceos
Why? Because society is full of cowards and chumps that will do it. They've convinced themselves, and are trying to convince the rest of us that allowing yourself to be abused equates to good work ethic. They call people who expect a proper work-life balance, or to be fairly compensated lazy. In truth, they lack spine and are afraid to set boundaries. Even my grandfather knew not to let any employer or business partner take advantage of him, and he would work circles around any of these people.
So true
@@SerenityLoman Exactly..how are you supposed to get experience if no one will hire you without experience..i dont think they understand how things work
@@trailman20 That's why corporations are shutting down they are losing people to hire, plus their company is going under due to CEO being stingy with money, when they do have the funds to pay people. Also blame the elites in our world if we erased them and the middle men, our economy would decrease back to 50s prices. Get rid of the the evil first.
Veronica is not with the foolishness 😂😂😂😂
As a former union steward and president, I love these!
These are so hilarious 😊
I wish my industry was allowed to unionize. We have absolutely no protection and constantly get stomped on so you either take it because that’s just your industry or you quit and find every other job in your industry is exactly the same.☹️
@@kittykathy9532 ALWAYS keep your resume up to date, and ALWAYS be prepared to jump ship. Sometimes just that will get you a nice pay increase.
I assume you’re similar to most union reps I’ve known… aka drunk at lunch and ignoring phone calls.
@@nwj03a 😂 Actually, no, you don’t know me. I’ll pass on the use of AODA. My experiences as a union worker afforded me the opportunity to become a licensed therapist. It motivated me to get my degree and credentials, so that I could work with clients who have co-occurring disorders. I am still happily representing and fighting for the rights of others not to deal with maltreatment, prejudice, other discriminatory practices, bullying, and harassment in a different professional environment. How about you? How are you helping others, aside from making asinine comments on UA-cam videos that promote learning about employee rights? Hmmm? 🙂
Gotta share my fave story on this topic.
By supervisor informed me that they wanted to have the crew work on saturday. I declined as i had a date planned with my girlfriend. He said they needed me to come in because the first aid worker had plans for the weekend and none of our others guys are licensed for first aid. I guess my girlfriend would understand me being the only one who can do the job and the overtime pay would be helpful. You're not getting overtime. Am I getting paid for first aid wage? No you're getting your usual pay. Okay, i guess I can do that since first aid is just manning the first aid station and taking care of issues. No, we need you to do your usual job as well.
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So you want me to do an entire day of overtime for regular pay, at a rate $6 an hour lower than the guy who usually does the job, do my usual job on top of covering that guys job, be the only worker with no first aid available in case of injury, do all this because he has plans, and want me to cancel my plans to accomidate this? No thanks.
You're going to keep all these guys from working tomorrow?
No. You're going to keep all these guys from working tomorrow because you want me to give up my date, take increased job risk, and no pay benefit.
All the workers were there to witness the entire exchange and were looking at my supervisor like they were expecting him to fire me on the spot.
Long story short, my girlfriend and I had a great day at butterfly world and a lovely dinner together.
Good for you and your gf. Fuck them shits.
Wait so did you get fired? Did they end up not working Saturday?? You left soo much out
@@theinvisiblewoman5709 I didn't get fired. They couldn't work Saturday
@DearlyDepartedDaz why does that make me smile?
"We're all having to pitch in."
Uh-huh, so pitch in 1.5 hours pay.
And remember, that’s the MINIMUM law required overtime. Not even going above and beyond
If everyone has to "pitch in" like that all the time, the company needs to hire more people.
Pitch in a little more? Pitch some more money in my check, then I'll stay!!😂😂😂
Real shit
My company tried something similar. Asked us to occasionally cover 4-hour long shifts on sunday, and that we would be able to recup those hours in the following week. I did it for a while because it allowed me to basically take off fridays & therefore have 3-day weekends the following week.
After a while, they tried to schedule me for more sunday shifts than I had initially agreed to & told me I was only allowed to take the recup time the monday right after my sunday shifts.
Needless to say I told my manager I would no longer be doing sunday shifts.
They always want the employees to help them but as soon as they see the employee benefiting from it, they try to add a caveat
I told a former employer that since he's not authorised to pay for overtime, I'm not authorised to promote the illegal practice of wage theft.
Your "appreciation" doesn't pay the bills.
That’s right!!
Veronica’s videos have literally taught me to spar in corporate speak and avoid the trappings of stupid leaders.
Remember: employment is a 2-way trade. The company does not own you, and you are free to dictate the terms of your employment. Not all employers will be willing to accept your terms, so there are tradeoffs in both directions.
Veronica should be nominated for employee of the month
How you gonna ask her to work late, not pay her & then tell her when she can use her flex time 😆
If it's their choice when I work extra AND when I take the time in lieu, it's not really flex time, is it?
She asked her to stay later and then go home earlier or come in late the following day. It was a net even transition.
@@cameronno6039
And Veronica said no, because for her that's not an even transaction, as she clearly explained.
@@annehaight9963 You clearly don't realize I'm responding to the false claim that the manager was asking her to work without pay...
@@cameronno6039
But it's still not a net even transaction. Yes, Veronica is getting paid for the time, but she values the time in ways other than just the monetary wage. The company isn't offering to compensate her for her dog being fed later, etc.
At this point Veronica is my work super hero 💜 she ain’t playin with nobody and she ain’t letting nobody play with her!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
#Checkmate ✅
Yeah and if you imitate her at a job worth anything, you’ll lose it lol
Had a manager at a place I worked ask me to stay over one night. I said sure I can do that. Then she proceeds to ask me to take a couple of long lunches in order to burn the OT off. I just said, "No thats ok I will just take the money because I could use it." She proceeds to tell me she will get in trouble if I don't burn the OT. Now normally I am a pretty fair person and understand people get into a bind and I don't mind helping out, but I also get paid by the hour and at that point not a whole lot...so I look her in the eyes and reply with, "What you are doing is illegal, if I choose to burn my OT its on me, if you ask me to burn my OT its on you and at this point I could call the labor board and we could discuss this further, now I am willing to stay for the OT, but if you are not going to let me keep it then don't ever aske me to stay over again." Oddly I was never asked again and to top it off 3 weeks later this manager got herself fired somehow.
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Good luck with that. It entirely depends on the setup of your job.
@@cameronno6039 Worked out great for me.
I think your manager got fired because of utter incompetence and also because no one above her had her back and all were glad to see her go. She doesn't sound very bright. (I wonder how she ever got the position in the first place? It would be in her job description from DAY ONE to know and practice the basics of employment law. I bet she lied through her teeth to get that job.)
@@maxalberts2003Or she didn’t use her teeth during the “interview”…
School Admins think they can ask teachers to stay without getting paid past the professional hour
When I was a CNA I used to get asked to come in on days off and I would have to ask for a different day I usually worked off in exchange. If they could not accomodate I simply said no I cannot come in then. My days off are my days off. I will get no less than what I'm owed lol
And one would presume that the charge nurse or whoever was scheduling was paying attention to the number of shifts you worked and when you worked them. But from experience--both in care centers and in hospitals--I know that the left hand of the SAME PERSON had not the faintest idea of what her right hand was engaged in. The stupidity was breathtaking.
Salaried managers are salaried so that they can stay later to complete the work, not use the time they have convincing staff to do that work for them.
The usual corpo speak rebuttal is ''if you want to progress in this company, you need to be a team player''. Don't fall for this. Unless you're paid or are adequately compensated, then just refuse. The people asking you would never do it for free (unless they're complete nutters). It also sets a bad precedent. Do it once and they'll expect it again. More often than not, management will not even respect you for it. They'll see you as weak and gullible.
It’s true there is a fine balance between being smart and climbing and being dumb and taken advantage of. You need discernment and life teaches you but I can 1000% say if any employee did what these cartoons show, they wouldn’t make it far in any job that pays well
@@xandercrew6088 Yeah, there's a way of going about it. Getting combative over minor requests is rather petty. That being said, companies which regularly expect unpaid hours from their staff can go to hell. I respect the younger generation for pushing back on this.
"But Team Jackass is so great! It's really like a family!"
You CLEARLY don't know my family. So *big hard solid NO.*
Why would they ever promote you? If they did, then they have to train you for your new role and train your replacement. There is no advancement anymore. Unless they need a scapegoat.
Yep. That's called the "if you do this, there'll be free beer tomorrow!" school of management.
There is, in fact, no free beer EVER, and even if, by some miracle, you do end up getting promoted (which you won't), just remember they'll then expect YOU to be the one who has to cajole and bully people into working for free.
I'm a salaried employee and work 70 hours a week..I wish I hadn't taken the position because I'm literally expected to do this. As an hourly employee I would be paid more for the same amount of work.
Just start working your salaried hours no more no less. If they don't like it they will fix the issue lol just have a job in the works
@@bobbyadamson3154 wish I could. I'm expected to work late if my hourly employees can't finish within their scheduled hours, and if I don't, then there will be actual consequences for customers who lost a loved one.
Didn't you know that being salaried is a "prestige"?! 😂😂😂
I absolutely love Veronica! Thanks so much for teaching people how to deal with greedy employers, corporate & civil service. They both get away with the same ****.
I wish I had a dime for every time the personnel director said, "I hope that makes sense".
Veronica don't play them silly games, I'm all for it!
I had this happen once. Someone was sick, and they called me on my day off to come in and cover, so I did. Then, on Friday, they told me to stay home, because they couldn't pay me overtime. The next time they called me to cover, I said 'nope!'. They couldn't understand why.
When I see it's work calling on my day off I don't pick up. Nip that in the bud.
That "good luck" at the end is awesome 🤣
Love these videos. I would say the same things at my corporate job. And because of it I was black balled. Like something they called a lateral move. Which was basically more work without an increase in pay or promotion. I would say no. And I would get the not being loyal to the company. I said if you were my lawn maintenance person and i paid you 100 to cut my grass then i ask you to cut trees, paint my house but i wasn't paying you anymore would you do it? They'd say no. Well then im saying no too
It was the "im sure it makes sense in your mind" for me😂😂😂
I LOVE Veronica! These employers are trifling! 👏
Salary sounds like a punishment
It's not so much punishment as Stockholm syndrome.
I had a supervisor at one of my last jobs, got “promoted” and ended up being switched from hourly to salary. After she got this “promotion”, I swear all she could say about it was complaints: had to stay extended unpaid hours all the time, got swamped with even MORE work when they already had her spread paper-thin (something this particular company had a habit of pulling on all their employees), and STILL wasn’t making nearly enough money to live as she informed me several times. I straight up told her she got scammed. And yet despite all this, she was a total executive bootlicker and yes-man, completely drank up the corporate company koolaid bs and would eat trash if the CEO ordered her to. Girl was the perfect sucker.
Salaried workers are usually paid soooo much more than hourly workers. Nevermind access to more benefits, potential bonuses, and just all around better treatment. Hourly folks are propagandized to feel afraid of it because "ooooh the company owns youuuuuu" but really. Do they? You can tough out a year or two and then take that fancy little title, which is more akin to dogshit wrapped in tinfoil, and get into a better company and just keep failing upwards.
Salaried positions offer more benefits (usually) but still are generally mandated to have a 40 hour maximum. They can actually get overtime in many places. I don't know if this is a federal mandate or state-specific though. Regardless, videos like this generally show a one-sided view with little context of the other side.
I wish i could be as quick as her when I'm trying to make a point
Good for you No is a complete sentence. Loving Veronica ❤❤❤
No pay, no work. You stay later for free out of misplaced loyalty, then you come in late AFTER, they try to dock your pay. Been there, done that, learned to say 'no".
Re-watch the video. She was not asked to go unpaid.
@@cameronno6039it is unpaid overtime therefore unpaid what is due according to federal law
@@austindecker7643
They weren't asking her to work without pay. They were asking her to stay late, and then either come in late or leave early on the following day.
I absolutely love Veronica❤️‼️‼️‼️‼️. She lets them have it every time! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Veronica is a straight savage 🤣🤣🤣
So, she’s authorized to request employees to stay late but not authorized to pay them for the extra labor? What is this, the goddamn Twilight Zone?
The twilight zone is you misunderstood the video. She authorized the employee to stay later today to arrive later or leave earlier the following day. It would have been a net even hourly expense. Now, whether that transition fit into the time of the subordinate employee to justify the time in traffic or impact on life is another thing entirely. Obviously, both sides needed to agree, which is fine/ appropriate. I'm just saying this video did not imply anyone was to work unpaid.
OMG all this time, I thought it was just me calling out management like this. For the longest, I've been labeled "not the team player", when I'm constantly asked to go above and beyond my duties and hours. I use to say yes A LOT, but now that I'm older, I realize how management lovvvves to take advantage of "yes" people without any additional benefits.
In healthcare, they would force you to stay late, because if you leave without relief, you are abondenjng the patient, and then they would send you home early later on the week of it is slows
You cant abandon your job, outside of scheduled hours. the law directly applies to walking out during your shift. What you are talking about is ownership, which is illegal in civilized nations.
@@DellikkilleD You can't leave patients in an unsafe condition. Healthcare rules are not your standard conditions. Hints why a healthcare site was not allowed to strike or change employers until the hospital was covered or could evacuate their patients. Call it what you will, but I am sure you don't want your spouse or child dead because of a worker disagreement.
@@cameronno6039you are implying only spouses and children matter to people. I have neither.
@@pageroo9644 Ididn't imply that at all. I have an example. Expand it how you see fit.
@@cameronno6039 in grammar when you want to cite an example, you say "for example yada yada yada" sooo how about you expand your grammar, sir!
Never ask people to do things you arent willing to dig in and do yourself.
I love Veronica..especially when you hear her Hispanic accent😂😂😂😂 while she’s correcting her boss😂😂
Period point blank 😂☝🏾
At my dad's first promotion, he was then salaried, and his takehome went down because he was no longer getting OT. It corrected itself over the years, but the first step, was a step down.
💯% FACTS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You won't even let her pick the day, the boss ruined it
I just love the voice inflections.. totally addictive!!..
Never have this issue, but I’m in a union. If I stay after my shift for any reason I am getting paid ot, even if no one asked me to stay. I just have to be able to justify why I stayed late in that case. When I was in the military I had situations kinda like the video, except you don’t get to say no.
I was at a gathering with someone who has a business. I stated that time stealing means at the end of a shift you refuse to pay if things run over is theft of services provided by employee. They got very silent.
Perfect, the manager could stay and work to cover the shortage.
I retired a year ago and I do not miss the work world and don't like to think about it. However, I take a vicious kind of pleasure in listening to Veronica refuse to get played. I wish I had Veronica on my side 10 years ago for the last chapter of my career, which got weirder as time went on.
In the US, it is *illegal* not to pay non-exempt employees for *every* hour they work. If I’m not mistaken.
What does that have to do with this video where they offered the subordinate employee to stay later today and leave or arrive earlier the following day to balance the hours?
@cameronno6039 Technically, the hours are not balanced. Once the employee goes over 8 hours in the same work day (in California), they go into overtime. If the paycheck does not reflect that, the company can be fined.
@@JKshay-z8d I don't see an issue. That's to the benefit of the employee.
Correct
As a teacher and a union leader, I ran into this problem many times. In the past, teachers in our district were paid to work on curriculum development after school. We had a great curriculum director, who really did her job well.
When a new superintendent came on the scene, she did away with this practice, and fired the curriculum director. Then she asked the teachers to 'volunteer' their time after school to work on this committee. Her reasoning was, they had to cut the school budget, and were hoping teachers would be 'team players', and do it for free!
The teachers said, "Nope!" Suddenly, money was found to pay them!
Team players only goes one way.
"Hey, do you think you could stay longer tonight, for no additional pay?" asked the manager.
"No, isn't it your job to step in and do the work where it's needed?" replied the employee.
"Well, I'm salaried, so I'm not going to be paid more if I do it. It just wouldn't make sense if I worked it." The manager explained.
"Well, I'm not getting overtime, so I'm not going to be paid more if I do it. It just wouldn't make sense if I worked it." The employee concluded.
"I'm sure it makes sense in your mind" 😂😂😂
I love Veronica
Veronica is IQ 400! 🤣
Know your worth. The corollary is: Know your worth to THEM.
I swear this should be taught to everyone. I learned it the hard way and I’m not near as diplomatic as Veronica 😂.
I love Veronica’s voiceover and attitude, and am truly impressed with the voiceover of the manager.
So much nuance and emotion coming through.
"Good luck!"
Good luck indeed. 😅
Omg why is this like so relatable 😅
True story working in a freaking office
The accuracy of the villains is frightening. What is more, the people represented by the villains don't know they're villains. That's how villainous they are.
Supervisors's arms look like spider legs. Freaky!
This is bloody good work
Yes, manager, step up to the plate and you pitch in.
This is the kind and nice way to say no, me I just give them the cold hard facts. My time away from the job is more valuable then over time pay, shame some of my co workers got used like slave labor by an inability to say no.
I listened to the whole thing, and I paid particular attention to when overtime pay was mentioned. I am entirely in support of working for overtime pay, and if overtime isn't available, then it’s crystal-clear to me that overtime work is not something about which the manager seriously needs to keep talking to the employee. (Hey, it’s obvious to ME.) 😁
Bravo!! 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾
I am Veronica, and Veronica is me. My bosses hate me😂😂😂
Veronica is getting 🔥
Veronika is a LEGEND!
I love Veronica.
Veronica is my new hero.
Why can't she come in late on Friday?
Because that would benefit her and/or be harder to hide (blame her).
These companies think they can fool you. And some folks fall for it. Go, V.
In real life, Veronica (post-conversation) receives a huge red flag for future salary raise (a.k.a.: performance review) meetings.
Always hated when companies did this crap. I would work over to get the job done only to be into my 3-4hr of an 8hr shift friday and told to leave early as to not go over.
So essentially on the days i stayed over, id screw my personal life free time to help them out. Only when it benefits them but not you.
As of this year so much ppl call out, i told my store manager and operations manager. Wouldnt it be nice if someone "Me" who is dependable show up for the shift?
But ill only takevthe shift if you dont try and take or cut my earned O.T by weeks end. Agreed... that O.T looks real nice on payday!
Thank god my company doesn't do this they are the most flexible i have ever seen a company. Small business and family owned. Casual dress anytime, no OT required, can take off time when you want , flexible with doctors appointments or any other family matters, can leave early come in later as long as you let your department manager know. We aee absolutely spoiled. Not to mention great pay and benefits!!
The supervisor sounds like Bill Lumbergh.
Veronica for president!
Payroll is the biggest expense, management is always looking for ways to reduce it
That's what I tell customers at my work. Managers get bigger bonuses the bigger the profits. And we get a piddling little bonus.
Standard converstation between a USA boss versus an EU worker.
In Murica, the boss has FREEDOM.
In the EU, all workers have freedom.
Sounds like Veronica is today’s Dilbert cartoon.
That's a good way of looking at it.
You tell her Veronika!!!
Iii fkn LOOOOOVE VERONICA LOLOL🥰🥰🥰
Love love love you!
I would’ve said “If yall are short staffed, hire more people. And I said what I said no”
"Good luck. " 😆😂
I have salaried employees as I am one myself. If one of my employees had to stay late, I would more than happy to make an adjustment for them on any day that they choose. This is ridiculous! Just ridiculous!
"We're all having to pitch in a little more." Then pitch in a little more money.
Or you pitch in YOUR time manager!
Not to mention the fact that you’re not being compassionate, so you’d be losing money
Compassion is free. Compensation isn’t.
She would not have lost any money. Re-watch the video.
Something similar happened to me … my boss asked me to stay late and help out one day thinking that I’d be getting OT for the week… but the next day she asks me to leave early since I had done my 40 hrs
The tangible here is that you’re not going to get promoted. But if you’re good with where you’re at in your career, hourly employees is the way to go.
If doing free labor for someone else is the cost of moving up the corporate ladder, I don't want it
@@samellison4452trust me I feel the same way. But you can have degrees, or even everything it takes to fulfill a promotion. But if you haven’t done the grind with the team, you’ll get no credibility. Hence you will more than likely stay right in your spot. It’s just the way it is. In a review, they will tell you “Thank you for being super flexible, you are truly a team player”.
@@MrNismoproYou're dead on!
Plenty of people have done free work only to be passed for a promotion and offered just a measly 3% annual raise because a higher amount "is not in the budget." Promotions are not guaranteed. In the meantime, there are many people, especially post pandemic, that have switched jobs and gotten promotions and much bigger salary increases.
Yup, they'll say you're "not a TEAM player".
So many people trapped in The Matrix
As it was designed to do. Well planned system.
Weve been told to only work our shift. If it goes over were supposed to take a longer lunch. Not even leave early! I asked if i should apologize to a customer and call a manager when my end of shift alarms go off so they can take over. Granted, they can't do my job. Only one other person in the store comes close. No, no, no! Stay and just cut the next day! Im hoping the last day of the week involves a customer at 30 minutes before shift end so i can call the manager and let them know im leaving on time as i had been instructed to do. Im tired of their snift. Thirty minutes equates to $10 in my case. Go after those who are hiding and staying late.
These are very useful.
When CEI’s get astronomical benefits for DOING NOTHING . . .
We all forgetting she is still gonna be late on Friday due to illness lol
"I'm salary, so I won't get extra money for staying late, either. But I really would like for you, the hourly employee, to stay late for no OT pay... even though you already make less than I do."
Gtfoh 😂