The problem is institutional. All Governments are tasked as if they were Ranchers raising cattle. There are a lot of facets to that job; the main task being that the cows must perceive that the Rancher works FOR the cows . That veil has been lifted and the cows are on to the end game. Takes away to urge to fulfill their role or providing future meat for the mill.
How is this even a real question? College and/or university educated professionals can't even afford to live alone. In Canada, the cost of daycare is often higher than rent. Only rich people can afford children.
@@nickb220I’m a genxer from the US. It was a given that after college you would move out of your parents’ home to strike out on your own. With or without roommates. Living with your parents in your twenties as a dude meant you were a looser plus no privacy if you wanted a lady to stay overnight.
Such ignorance 😂 The previous generations neglect to build enough housing to meet the demand EVEN IF there had been lower immigration! You can’t blame everything on them… unless of course you are racist 👀
Lack of potential partners is another birth control. Some women can have children on their own as long as they have enough finances, others care less for finances as they can make do but need a man to stand by and help mentally, etc. For example, I met only 2 potential men in my life. One was rejected for having 3 kids before met me- and now he is dead I can't change my mind. Second is unsuitable unless he would be chained at home which would be illegal and also unsuitable because it would set bad examples to the children. So at times lack of potential choices makes it also impossible
@@dixonhill1108 Bring migration down, house prices come down and salaries go up. Meaning people can afford children. They don't want this. Hence mass migration causing high rent, house prices and low salaries.
@AustrianPainter14 the original post still applies. Japanese people struggle with child cost along with the work/school culture stealing so much time from parents with their kids.
Moving the goalposts are we? So Japanese and Thai workers are in the same boat? How about South Koreans and Chinese or Singaporeans? Face it, this has nothing to do with finances. It’s entitled driven by Vvomen.
This question, that has been asked countless times, will receive the same answer countless times. It’s too expensive, the world doesn’t feel safe right now, parents have not made parenting look fun or desirable, the economy is unstable, parents don’t get any support, the village mentality is long gone, and society undoes parents hard work.
But why are all these things happening? Perhaps it's b/c the Earth is too populated and Nature won't allow unsustainable growth to continue forever. All the negatives you mention may be just the symptoms. Overpopulation itself is the root cause. Resources are more scarce resulting in higher prices, requiring people to work more to get the limited resources, meaning there's no time or money to raise kids, etc. Add to that the carbon emissions that are drastically changing the planet and making life much more difficult and resources even more scarce and wars and diseases more likely.
Most young people can't afford to buy a home, never mind renting. Make home affordable, and you should see the birth rate go up again. I won't hold my breath, though. Too many selfish people are only interested in lining their pockets
They never covered the economic profiles of those not wanting to have kids. My educated guess from anecdotal evidence is poorer working classes have more children then those with disposable incomes. Why? Bc middle class people /those who have to pay for costs themselves will be more diligent with their money and consider the true costs of raising a child long term... They'd rather a better car or nice holiday or private school or extra paid for activities for the 1 or 2 kids they already have, rather than have a 3rd and have to suffer /go down a rung on the economic ladder. Our nation has more of these types of people who would rather be comfortable in life with 1 or 2 kids rather than suffer hardships with 3 or 4 kids.
People used to start having kids when they were very young, before they could really understand the gravity of it. Now people are waiting much longer, they can think about what it means to have children, and then, whether for selfish or selfless reasons, they think twice.
Imagine a world with fewer people. Less crowding. Less strain on the environment. More room for other species. Imagine being able to spend time at an uncrowded beach. Imagine being able to go to a major site like the bottom of the Ground Canyon without the need to make a reservation months in advance. Imagine uncrowded country and mountain roads. The near term problem is the worry about not having an adequate workforce to care for an aging popultaion. You need to pay close attention to how close we are to humanoid robots and full self-driving taking over very large numbers of human jobs.
The only thing we will have is s collspsed socioty, if 90% are old people who the hell is going to take care of them. No money, no nurses. Just billions of old people
You can imagine a lot of things if your imagination is sufficiently creative. But that's not reality. A declinning population means declining supply chains. Which means we'll have a technological collapse long before we run out of people. "You need to pay close attention to how close we are to humanoid robots and full self-driving taking over very large numbers of human jobs." You need to have engineers who can work on this problem. We're well past the peak of engineering talent. More than half of the world's high end engineering talent is in Korea/Japan/Taiwan/Germany/Italy. They all have rapidly collapsing workforces. They've haven't been turning Nigerian's into electrical engineers. So you have countries suffering from intense economic decline, their engineers are not only dying but more importantly turning past age 60 2 decades ahead of their deaths. As they fail to recruit engineers their economies fail. This means their economies more or less have to exit global supply chains. This is literally happening as we speak. America/Trump is trying to capitalize on this and attempt to dominate virtually every industry they can. At some point they'll run into a shortage of competent engineers. EDIT: India won't save you, their education gap is massive, the majority of Indian's population are barely able to read. There's the top 6th of the population that are relativlely well educated.
In India the Government gives NOTHING to its citizens anyways. So we dont care about the younger generation paying for the older generation. Everyone needs to save up and use it for our retirement. Why will we add children as an additional expenditure to eat our savings?
@@dixonhill1108 All of us can imagine. None of us can accurately predict the future. Supply chains. If a lower population means less need for ores, processing, and factories then we'll have less of them. That does not mean that we can't have the things we need and want. Engineers. If you are concerned about enough children born today in Korea/Japan/Taiwan/Germany/Italy that means you are ignoring the massive untapped populations in other countries like Indonesia, India, and the continents of Africa and South America. Genius and high intelligence are not based on country of birth or origin of parents. If we need more highly educated STEM people then we can set up good educational opportunities in places which currently are ignored. And don't foolishly write off India. That would be very a very ignorant thing to do. Trump. Do you not understand who this person is? Do you not understand that he is a con man and a fool? That he cares nothing for anything or anyone other than himself? Please don't allow yourself to be one of his victims. @dixonhill1108 All of us can imagine. None of us can accurately predict the future. Supply chains. If a lower population means less need for ores, processing, and factories then we'll have less of them. That does not mean that we can't have the things we need and want. Engineers. If you are concerned about enough children born today in Korea/Japan/Taiwan/Germany/Italy that means you are ignoring the massive untapped populations in other countries like Indonesia, India, and the continents of Africa and South America. Genius and high intelligence are not based on country of birth or origion of parents. If we need more highly educated STEM people then we can set up good educational opportunites in places which currently are ignored. And don't foolishly write off India. That would be a very ignorant thing to do. Trump. Do you not understand who this person is? Do you not understand that he is a con man and a fool? That he cares nothing for anything or anyone other than himself? Please don't allow yourself to be one of his victums.
We are taught from young to live within our means and not to buy things we cannot afford. Yet now we are told to have babies - something we cannot afford and cannot be resold.
Children are a huge financial burden. If you want me to have kids, then pay me-simple as that. We live in a hyper-capitalist society, and this is just the reality of it: you reap what you sow.
@@maseehwardak6055things today are better than they ever have been in the west. My grandfather was born in 1888 when things were actually hard. The world was expected to be a rough place. You just soldiered on.
@@haighton it depends on your attitude, if you consider him as kind of animal and without any expectations on his future, yes it’s not. If you would like to send him to Stanford university or so when he grows to 18 years old, well that will be a huge cost to your family(need to raise and educate him well since kindergarten)
@bolotabr12 Try telling that to South Africa. 33 teenage mothers gave birth on Christmas Day, with several of them 14 or younger. Many of them were impregnated by tribal elders, whom one would hope would know better. However, about 20 teenage boys died from ensuing infections after having their genitals mutilated on various hilltops by dodgy "initiation practioners", so there is some sort of grim balance going on.
Im often told by my parent's generation that I am selfish not to have kids. When they were younger, it was easy for them to rely on their social networks to raise and fund children. These days, that's impossible.
Same here! 6 years into „solo for life“ and thriving. Have identified as childfree at 19. being solo added even more quality. Decentralising men and focusing on my education, friendships and building a quiet life, has been really good for me (I’m Swiss, adopted).
It's pretty much more women entering the workforce and wanting to progress their careers, lack of community due to social media, more expenses, lower median wages to compensate for cost of living, and the allure of non essentials over raising children. It's all going to collapse within this century. Not enough taxpayer base to support people later on. We're screwed. We are already seeing the implications in South Korea, Japan and Canada. @@John_Doe643
Less people getting out of the house > Less meeting people > Less dating > Less marrying > Less buying a house > Less financial stability > Less children, yet they only care about the last part because it affects their taxes.
I agree. The only way you can win with children in today’s environment is if you are extremely rich or you are extremely poor. The poor can afford a lot of kids if the government pays for their food, housing and childcare.
I agree. The only way you can win with children in today’s environment is if you are extremely rich or you are extremely poor. The poor can afford a lot of kids if the government pays for their food, housing and childcare.
I meet a lot of people and only two potentials who got rejected for their life choices. So if the rest of potentials don't get out then maybe you are right- my problem is I have no one suitable, and I do not mean finances at all, when it comes to finances I am sure I can make do with whatever falls on me.
I called my MP about the disgracefully under necessary calorie lunches for children on free school meals. Kids fainting from hunger in class. They told me point blank that they feed their own children and wouldn’t have had them if they couldn’t. It was repulsive. So my generation grows up. We don’t have the children we can’t afford as all these people told us not to do and then they throw their hands up and complain. Not because perhaps more people would like to have children and that’s sad, but because we aren’t undertaking the huge effort of raising the next round of worker bees to be exploited or sent off to war. We don’t owe them another tier on the pyramid scheme.
I totally agree. And anyway, they did not train men to be masculine, responsible and grow up into maturity- meaning mature mindset. And not every woman wants children so badly she will have it no matter what. From financial strain to maturity quest, there are so many problems with society already long ago.
@@grannyannie2948 That's what my MP was saying if I've understood you right. To which my point is it is ridiculous to be criticised for having followed that advice. That the generation you hammered that point home to, who are now living through a housing and cost of living crisis, decide to not have kids. The messaging in the UK when I was a teen/early twenties was the worst thing you could be is a young mum with several kids. It would be shameful for your kids to rely on the council lunches. Yet now the messaging has flipped saying it's awful we aren't having kids till we are financially secure in our 30s because they want the tax base, soldiers and worker bees. You can surely see that would annoy that generation. The work those young women were doing of having and raising children was actually very important for society and the economy and yet they were treated with such resentment.
@@clairegamble3918 I'm sorry it was just a throw away comment, but it is different here, at school children don't have a dinner, there's no dining room, they have a light lunch they bring from home, and eat outside in the playground. A sandwich and an apple, perhaps. So within the means of the very poor. Today some schools offer free toast in the morning as some kids don't eat breakfast. But this is in part because of working mothers rather than poverty. I actually raised my daughters with a different plan. Concentrate on finding a good bloke and establishing a family. You have seven years to do this, you have the rest of your life to go to university and have a career. So there are lots of worker bees, that I love dearly. I hope this problem gets solved for their sake.
I'm a single millennial (34yrs) with 2 kids and a mortgage. I managed because I got onto it when I was in my early 20s when things were manageable. I wouldn't want to be doing it now with the cost of living and housing prices as well as the way society is.
"Single millennial".. that's sad (not in a mean way but sad int he fact you are a single parent). It's hard to find someone that you get along with let alone someone who understands how hard parenting is and will want to stick with you through that. No one understands that kids and a relationship are basically two other full time jobs.
@Spacemonkeymojo I used to be a single millennial, I remarried again a year past. If I was left in the situation now, divorced with no financial support from my ex, having had to reduce my hours and taking a career hit, I would probably be homeless. That was over 10 years ago though. I worked my arse off to get promotion after promotion to get a livable wage. I don't think I would have got by if it happened now because my livable wage, as a senior Engineer, only covers the basics for existence. Teenagers are particularly pricey as your basically feeding adults. Not to mention driving lessons and such because a Saturday job doesn't quite cut it at £35 a lesson now.
Wow, same. Im 34 with a 13 and 14 year old. I left 12 ish years ago and was able to keep my head above water while I put my head down and worked so freaking hard @@katiemcdonald5988🎉 good on you!
Same age, Im married now, but I was a single mom for a bit with my oldest. Ive been saying how just in 2010 I was able to completely provide for us making $10/hour with no help. I mean dont get me wrong. I worked my butt off, and we weren't living lavishly. But we had a roof over our heads and I was never particularly worried about how I would pay for stuff. Trying to pull that off now simply wouldn't be possible. Now you can make 20 an hour and still just doesn't go that far.
I don't wanna have kids becuz I live in an environment where you have to be excellent to get by and you're punished for being ordinary. I don't wanna exchange my well-being for the resources needed to raise a kid. And I also don't have the heart to see my precious kid(s) stuck in endless rat race just to survive.
EXACTLY. I don't want to go through thte entire process of "Childbirth" but more than that. I don't want my kids to go through even HALF of what I went through - Which is a life I cannot provide them unfortunately - If they are to survive in this country, they have to keep pushing till they lose their minds
I always wanted to have at least four children. I have done babysitting and nursery duty. I was raised in and around the Catholic community where 8+ kids in a family was the norm. Now, at 32, i have to come to grips with reality. Many of us are heartbroken about not being able to afford to have kids. It's considered to be complicated grief. Again, I always looked forward to having kids. So the grieving process has been very hard. I've shed so many tears over it, and will continue to mourn throughout my 30s. The death of a dream, and something I always assumed would happen.
One massive omission: those women, and men, who just don’t want children. There’s all this talk about “can’t” while ignoring those who given the choice simply don’t want that life. Children would be better off if they were raised by people who genuinely want them, not by people who are socially pressured.
Thats why "Why have children?" is the most important question. Ppl are ready to go a great lenght when they want something. Think about all the junk shit, designer cloths, fancy new cars, pets, yet when it comes to children all they see is burden and cost.
@ with respect I don’t think those things are comparable with the “burden” of raising children. I believe there are plenty of people who genuinely want children. Let the world’s population stabilize. We don’t need continual growth. Only the big corporations need “growth”….
@@maxinahunt8652 Present time is objectively the peak of progress humanitry have accomplished so far. Opportunities are nearly endless, education is available. Look at evry possible metric and compare it to 100years back, yikes, compare to 50 years back. Now is better. So why people don't have children? Because they don't want to. Why? In addition, the issue is not population is about to stabilize, we're past the point of population stabilizing. Some nations are on the trajectory towards extinction.. Literally that. Any nation nearing 1.0 TFR. Just do the maths: with every new generation halved, how long can a nation remain itself?
@bootscooty this idea of willpower is kind of a myth. There are thousands of people working to advertise unhealthy products to you through manipulation and addict you to your phones daily. And the people getting rich out of this psychological manipulation don't care if you end up sick and poor if they get to be rich.
28 year old female from the US here. I have a dual engineering degree and have worked on top projects at 2 fortune 50 (FIFTY) companies. Grew up in a single breadwinner household. Can’t even afford the life my parents provided to me, much less a better life for my child, and that’s without inflation. When someone hands me $900k I’ll have a kid, otherwise not interested in dropping below the poverty line to add only stress to my life
I know money is often cited as the reason but i think that's only half the story. Unless you have 'f u' money, your lifestyle takes a huge hit after having kids. Not to mention that in modern society, it's both parents having to work and that means lots of tough decisions in the early years around childcare, working late, overtime etc. It's like working an additional job on top of the day job.
I disagree now, at the end of 2024, then I ever would have before because now they really do want lower class people dead. If they kill us off, make us homeless, starve us out, then they have more money for themselves to invest in AI that can do 90% of jobs that currently do exist. I wish I was dreaming!
Same here. Society is telling me I need to find someone to have a child with, risk my life and wellbeing, possibly become a single parent, spend the best years of my life doing 24/7 labor for free, just because I might not enjoy my retirement because of lack of money and/or loneliness? And then watch as my child has to suffer from war, dictatorship, climate change or all of the above? No thanks, I'd rather start saving now, make a lot of friends and hope for the best.
As long as having children is a poverty garante, people will not have more children. When the society provide more affordability for childcare, schools, colleges, work life balance etc things will not change. Period. No talk show, smart written articles and essays or documentary are neccessary for that. Those in power and in possession of wealth must decide: EITHER they exploit people with small salaries OR they finally see their fellow human beings as such and pay solid wages and provide a good social structure for families. End of story.
@@SweBeach2023 How so? Parents cannot work and provide as much, than people without kids. The expenses are higher and the impact on their career is quite severe. Parents are often not promoted as much and they have to work hard to keep up with a fast changing work environment. So? How do you back up your statement?
@@eltonguapyassu Better wages sounds good. But some people want to have a familiy. If society wants to continue to exist, then politicians should enable people to do so.
All of europe is demographically imploding. Why? House prices, day care, living costs, education & student loans are all way too high. A couple of 2 needs to work the entire week to barely get by. On top of this it is almost impossible for a large segment of the younger population to buy a house. How on earth do you expect people to start a family without this stability? The boomer generation has once again destroyed our futures with politicians trying to plug the demographic gap with mass immigration. Slapping ducttape on the problem instead of fixing it and helping the younger generations. It is short sighted and foolish.
I think the top knows it is imploding. We don't have the population. That's why Republican are enforcing anti-abortion. The Democrats see that migrations can help. The migrant workers (illegal) are the vocal points of it that the next term administration wants to get rid of. One tough question is that who will replace those workers? Majority of Americans want desk job with AC. They don't want to work on the field (farms, construction, and hostel) as it's stressful physically and mentality with little pay and quite dangerous.
No it isn’t. Stop making excuses. We live in the most economically and materially prosperous conditions ever, in all of human history. And you’re complaining having children is “impossible”. Move to the countryside, rent, don’t spend as much on consumerist filth you don’t need, do anything! But no, our generation seems to think that it is a moral catastrophe that we live slightly less comfortably than our parents. Heads up, if you decide not to have children, then the situation will be even worse for the next generation.
@@straven479 You're living in a delusion if you believe that this isn't an issue. A "moral" catastrophy? What are you on about. This is a socio-economic train wreck leaving many individuals in the UK/EU without even the CHOICE of having a child. Purely financially for many it is an impossibility. Why else is the birthrate imploding? You tell me. Because we're all entitled? Because we just don't feel like it? Perhaps we all need to magic our way out of it and "live in the countryside" whilst commuting 4 hours into London. Genius.
@@straven479 No. Because if there is a shortage of labor, the corporations will have to offer higher wages and benefits to attract workers. The smaller population will emit less greenhouse gases, which will be better for the planet.
@@straven479 Cost of living and people barely have enough saving. How can they afford another human when they are struggling to make ends meet? Get off that gaming platform and come to the real world.
No. Birthrates are also very low where people live in luxury - where they can afford everything they want and where childcare, education and healthcare is covered by the state.
@@parcomolo256let's face it: children are a burden, it demands sacrifices and the rich ones don't want any sacrifices Why a healthy young adult female would rather chose surrogates and nannies otherwise?
@@parcomolo256 could it be that some people just don't want children in this unstable world? I know people who've had children and are now terrified about their future. No, thanks. Also, most people don't live in luxury, by definition the "luxury in a country with social transfers" population is quite small. Maybe a few countries in Europe. Statistically it wouldn't change much if they all had children. Very few people can "afford everything", even with free healthcare and school, I live in a country like that.
I am a 30 year old male and I am a Sudanese-Canadian living in Canada 🇨🇦. The main reason why I cannot have children is because of the Cost of living crisis. Everything is expensive, house, groceries, cars, insurance, gas prices. So, due to this reason I will not be having children anytime soon.
Jesus , that's some bad take. Go to Sudan ? Wtf ? Dude, don't listen to those guys ,Keep on Grinding my brother ,use your money wisely, I can't afford a house in Israel but I bought a flat in Romania , just invest and hope for the best. Use your leverage of currency disparity, and maybe one day we can live like people. Let's hope Pier will sort shit up.
Is it reversable? Yeah, when the time is right. Governments are too worried about the birthrate, while a record number of people live on the street, jobless, without healthcare, filled with hopelessness. Yet still looking around asking 'where are the babies'? I want to see a whole program exploring and explaining the coercive practices. Like where governments are restricting access to things like birth control. When that is in place it will just be a situation of more kids being born into places where they are unwanted. And people being forced into being pregnant, there is enough of that already.
@@FunnyTikTokUA-cam No, I don't see it as my job to inform you. Nor am I buying your bull about no links === not true. If you really want to know google it yourself. It isn't difficult if you really care.
@@aftereight9143 Ah bless, you really believe that. I bet you think people can still buy a new car for 500 pounds and that the rent for a 4 bedrrom flat is just 350 pounds a month. Sadly what you think and what the reality is are two different things
What would be the purpose to give birth to a production machine that will be abused at work and discarded when it isn't good enought? The wolfs cry when the sheep refuse to breed.
You are so weak that you rather kill your own potential kids than show some hard work and resilence. Very sad. I have 3 kids and I woudnt trade them for anything. No matter the hardship, hard work, late nights etc. They are my treasure. I am rich having them.
They only cry for so long, then they start yelling, then they take over governments to enrich and empower themselves even more, then the sheep become so numerous that they overtake the wolves and the cycle repeats. It’s insane how certain types of people perpetuate this cycle through greed, even if they know the historical sequence of events.
My focus is retirement early. I can sleep at night knowing I didn’t bring a child into this world. It’s becoming a horrible place and it’s going to get worse.
@@grannyannie2948 you've convinced me. I'm going to have 3 children in the next few years and raise them for 20 years, sacrificing my best years, for a lot of money, just so I can have a small pension in retirement. That makes sense. In my country you get a pension for working, not for having children. Who's gonna pay for it is none of my concern, I'm sure they can shift the budget.
costs skyrocketed. I'm not gonna live in a 2-room (living room + bedroom) condo with a man and kids. I've lived like that with 2 siblings and my parents for 11yrs already. On 55 square meters. No thank you!
Grandparents are still working so can’t help with childcare (even if they were willing, which most western grandparents aren’t) and each household requires 2 incomes. Relationships are breaking up left, right and centre. Women don’t feel financially or emotionally secure and we have more insight now into the reality of being working mothers at the same time there’s more expectation on parents than ever psychologically and materially.
The growth addiction is what everyone is concerned about but no one wants to talk about. The world passed 4 billion people in 1975. Last year it passed 8 billion. We were just fine at 4 billion.
Capitalism and our current social structure relies on it - no politicians will openly discuss it, but they all know it. I'm not some raging anti-capitalist but the system isn't sustainable, it never was. A new system needs to be introduced by minds far smarter and more knowledgable than I.
As someone who's had chronic illness which no one gives a shit about, you're taking a giant risk when you have a kid. You may, like my mother, produce little balls of suffering.
I'm with you. I didn't get sick till 27, but imagine if I'd got married and had a kid by then, we could afford no life. Also pretty sure part of the reason my health is bad is that my parents fed me loads of ultra processed food growing up, which is what most people in poverty eat and is linked to awful health outcomes.
The systems are trash. How are the young suppose to buy homes without proper jobs or incomes? How do we survive the cost of living crisis? How are women who choose to work full time, have kids, study and take care of a household live and thrive? This is insane.
Because if people do not have kids, who will work to fund your pension ? The idea of DINKS ie "Double Income No Kids" is a Ponzi Scheme. It creates higher productivity, bigger wages, less costs so long as the couple is working. But what happens when all these DINKS couples retire ? The entire economic system collapses. You get a severe and protracted Great Depression.
Funny how people who have had children say that the best thing they have had in their lives is their children but the same people talk about childless people as if they are some kind of people who have avoided some civic duty and they should be ashamed.
It is a civic duty, you want other to bare a universally needed burden, then those same kids you took no part in raising have to pay higher tax’s because you’ll think you earned Social Security at a certain rate when you didn’t and force them to have a lower standard of living.
@@KeithAllen-ti4iy Here in Switzerland they are just fine. My daughter is becoming a teacher there, too. The private schools make a difference mainly for rich kids who are struggling academically. For strong learners I would not suggest paying the fees of 30 thousand dollars per year.
In the past 40 years the external forces attacking family life have developed rapidly: companies are worse to work for and worse at delivering quality goods. Screens suck the life out of us and brainwash into believing bunk ideology. Lifestyle diseases like obesity, directly caused by corporate greed, are hard to avoid. The current climate will feel like paradise compared to what it's going to be in 20 years. Food will only become more expensive. And frankly the fertility "crisis" is only a crisis for the oligarchs. For most of humanity it will be an improvement in living standards, assuming climate change and water wars don't destroy us first.
Absolutely true. But there are too many people in this world that only care about themselves and getting more of what they don't need at the expense of others. The only solution is to have very strong regulations in place in society to keep those types of people from abusing others, abusing the environment, resources etc. Because greed is a flaw in too many himan beings. Now corporations and the wealthy are in control of our governments, manipulating everything in their favour while they degrade society and do not care while they watch the world burn from their mansions. They must be held accountable for what they've done...at this point it's really self defense.
@@nopenopenope678 Nonsense ! There will be proportionally alot more pensioners but less people of working age to support them. This will create a Global Depression.
I have one; would love to have one or two more. Daycare costs are, however, insurmountable, and my career greatly suffered after going on maternity leave, with everlasting repercussions, I can't imagine going through it again. It fills me with sadness.
I would love for my only to have at least one sibling. I grew up with many and it was great. But education/food/clothing consumption and costs grow exponentially with a child- even if the prices stay fixed. I could have 2 and then feel the guilt of not being able to provide them both with adequate resources. The boomers assumed we could buy cheap homes on single incomes and have guaranteed pensions. We know that this is not the life our children will have. Simply working hard and harder will not provide. We can at least help provide for the future of one
I agree with you both. I've had to start saving for the next one because I'm going to have to give up work once I have my 2nd child. I can't fathom going through the daycare sickness while working and taking care of 2 kids among other things. If I want a 3rd I'd have go back to work and have minimal maternity leave.
We wanted 4. We had 2 in our 20s but that was a stretch. We had some luck in careers and investments so that we can afford college for our first 2 and we are on track for retirement. We even decided to try for a baby in our 40s (16 year age gap) now that we're in a place that we can afford more. House paid off, no car loans. No debt. We got lucky and I had our twins at 42. But it's crazy that it took 16 years to afford that third child.
Thanks for having a child and helping the receding population! It's a tough job and we're lucky some people are still having kids. And I'm sorry you faced repercussions career-wise. This is often a cited issue that I'm surprised they didn't bring up in this video.
it's not that deep - wage stagnation, decreased real wages, inflation, lower standards of living, higher cost of living, very little personal time - we're not happy, we're burnt out and just surviving. no one has the resources or the inclination to make a family when they can't afford to even take care of themselves first
1997 here: I don't have kids and will never have cause this wolrd is sick.... Only wars, climate change and the feeling, that i will experience so many crisis myself, that I don't want to drag a kid into this aswell. Simply no perspectives for the young generation. Not even mentioning the costs of a child. The last i worry about is who is wiping my ass off, IF i ever get old. And if i do, my retirement will hardly exist as well. Whixh is by the way also the reason younger people are less motivated for work. Why should we be? If we ever get retired, we will hardly get any money anyway! Furthermore there are way too many people on this planet anyways and if we would drastically decrease, then there would hardly be any wars anymore simply because you need everyone to keep society working due to the lack of people. So in fact i can obly see positive things in this trend.
Get ready to live in a declining world, and that means a decline in your quality of life. I am from the second oldest country in the world and things are already falling apart, too many old people that need welfare and too few youngsters that are productive. The government does not have any money to invest in research and innovation, so from our perspective we need other nations to raise the bar, because we are too old to care.
This is a great idea. Id love to see males run to adopt as statically males are the ones who want to be fathers ( makes babies and leave it to the women, NOPE!)@@roselineobianonwo9850
Children cost money and need stability. Without a home, this is not possible. Most people struggle to even afford an apartment, and even that is risky. Why raise a kid in a home where the landlord can change rent or kick you out. Then you have to move which ruins a kids notion of stability, safety, and the ability to keep friends if moves happen or displacement because parents can't find a place. Animals don't mate when the environment isn't suitable. It's not that complicated.
It’s not a crisis. Population growth has its peaks and troughs. Also you can live a good life while childless. Adoption of kids should be very normalised
i agree. there are enough poor people in africa who are vulnerable to climate change & whose lives we can improve instead of channeling our resources to new western children
One point they forgot is that research has showed that people did get fewer children in times of crisis even though they didn't have acces to efficient contraception. Right now we have had a string of different crisis like affordable housing, 2008, covid, affordable food, Ukraine, Putins treaths and visible climate disaster combined with effective contraception so of course we se a decline in fertility.
I think what we need is to focus on a future with smaller population, rather than how to boost the number. We need a new economy model that runs with a smaller and older population.
@barondino4628 if we get poorer, who is getting richer? If there's no economic model to save us, I suppose that's the end of the dynasty. After all, there's no civilisation that survives for eternity that we know of. Perhaps this is the cycle of nature that our modern civilisation will face, and eventually forced to accept.
Do you think our great-grandparents were helicopter parents that expected to give their children everything their little hearts desired? Our expectations are over-the-top these days. TBH, I'm not concerned about population decline - I'm more concerned about the wacky reaction people are having to it. Just read "A Handmaiden's Tale" - scary for everyone. But seriously, our society has become incredible spoiled and expectations are so much higher than they were in the past. Maybe that's not a bad thing, but this cost of living thing is a poor excuse IMO.
That's such a 1st world problem. Highest fertility rate in the world is Niger. Average yearly income of people in Niger - $620 USD. Now I agree that those are terrible conditions in which to raise children, but I think it completely debunks your argument.
@@jeffboenig395 women don't owe anyone babies, for any reason. not governments, not economies, not individual men. that's literally the number one takeaway from that book.
@@jeffboenig395 People are way more responsible in our days than in the past. You just don't bring kids into the world if you can't provide the basic. Our grandparents had children like rabbits and barely could afford them, many kids would go a day or more without eating. If young people are aware they can't provide a comfortable life for their kids, it's laudable that they choose not having them. It's called being responsible. Stop romanticizing thoughtless parenthood and poverty.
@@jeffboenig395 I'm driven to shout about population collapse because of the BS I was fed when I became a father (of one) child) in the late 90's - the 'population bomb' was utter nonsense within a year of being published, instead it got pushed for decades as being connected with reality :(
@@TheMsmay2some people are okay with that . Also having kids is not going to give you a company for the rest of your life. Maybe a part of it but you kids are probably going to move and start their own thing in 18-20 years. Some very far away so you will see them 3 times a year at best. So yeah when you are older relying solely on family to keep you a company is not a great idea. You should build your community and make connections regardless. Having kids is not retirement plan it's something you do because you truly want to and because you are ready to selflessly give another human all love you can. But sadly most people don't realize that and kids end up with traumas never wanting to have much with their families.
“Aren’t easy to define?” Money… we are forced to work more and things cost so damn much that many of us barely get by. Bringing a child into a world like that would be abuse!!
Because this world is a dump and getting worse, and as we become adults we realise our parents were 100% just "winging it" and now we're stuck with that baggage. Why would we do the same to the next generation and have them have to suffer? Is that not cruel?
The only excuse my mother has is that she did not know that Soviet Union will collapse and things will change so drastically. She felt secure when she had us. She agrees that even she would think differently in any frame time of post-Soviet society
I'm from the Philippines, one of the Asian countries cited as still growing. My father had 12 siblings, and his father had 11. Looking at the family sizes of my dad and his siblings, from eldest to youngest: they had 8, 6, 7, 5, 4, 4, 0 (died in infancy), 4, 3, 3 (two adopted), 2 (one adopted), 4, 3. The next generation all seem to have 0, 1 or 2 kids. The natural reproduction rate in the Philippines has fallen well below 2.1 in the last decade or so, but because our population pyramid still has a wide base, our national population to projected to keep growing until the 2070s or so, and then start declining relatively slowly. These outcomes are very different from our neighbors in Southeast Asia (where the demographic transition started earlier and has been generally faster) and to our north in East Asia. Catholic culture and doctrine, and restricted availability of contraception until a few decades ago, probably were a factor in our slower transition.
It's the same in India. It's a large population but people are barely having children, only 1 if at all that too from CERTAIN SPECIFIC states and not all. Many states have a fertility rate of 1.2 or 0.4 even in India.
Young women now have realized that they don't want to go through the mind numbing drudgery of childrearing ike their mothers went through. Nothing glamorous about teaching junior how to survive in a dying world. Livin' n' lovin' the childfree life.
Ask your self who was responsible for birthing and taking care of those 12 children .... It seems having insane amounts of children is difficult when women no longer want to participante in being free slave labor
I don't trust people that don't like children. I mean I get not wanting to raise a child but people that just hate the sight of kids in any capacity and have little empathy for them are just messed up imo
It's mostly people, who have kids, abuse other people's kids sexually, physically and emotionally. Very rarely you see a single or bachelor with no kids abuse others. By the same token, mostly married men with kids are more selfish than unmarried ones with no kids.
@HarleyButler-ox3qn I know but there is definitely a contingent of childfree people (and I'm childfree myself) who actually despise kids and call them all sorts of horrible things. I think those people are awful. I may have jumped the gun a bit on your comment lol my bad
1. Have you seen the news lately? Who wants to have kids amid all this chaos? 2. Have you seen prices lately? It costs more than ever to raise a kid these days. 3. Have you seen kids lately? The workforce is already inundated with upcoming generations who don't wanna work for a living. 4. Children are an unattainable luxury item for most young Americans I know these days, a luxury item with failing investment payoffs. All we're doing by having kids is making more consumers in a world already dying of consumerism. It's almost inhumane to even consider having kids in this global economy. There are more than enough kids without parents that modern citizens can fulfill parenting urges by fostering and adoption instead of making more problems for everyone. It's incredibly self-aggrandizing to think you're making anything better by spreading your genes in today's world.
@@CO2Emitter9999 It's also more dangerous than ever to get pregnant in many US states since the overturning of Roe. Pregnancy and giving birth are far more dangerous than neither of those things, especially when one can't get medical care if anything goes wrong.
They didn't really cover fertility this was more about birth rate decline and what some countries are doing to mitigate... Fertility is a whole other podcast and we need to look at the affect of plastics, forever chemicals, ideological agendas in our ecosystem and why 'fertility' rates drop. Even in my husband's immediate circle of friends only 2 out of 5 very close friends are able to have children: 1 has near zero sperm count, 1 married quite late and wife is unable to have kids, 1 couple struggles with mental health and doesn't want the responsibility of having kids. Can just about look after themselves.
You’re correct. Studies have been done on sperm counts and viability, they are down 50% in the last 50 years and still are dropping. This is seldom mentioned when birth rates are discussed.
No one in their right mind would choose to bring a child into this insane, dictator led world. The future looks bleak to me with healthcare, education, and the legal system in many countries, in tatters. Housing is beyond most of us, and the power weilded by landlords and property agencies destroys mental health as tenants live in constant fear of homelessness. Dont inflict this on innocent children.
Not mentioning the fact that previous generation was very immature when they started having kids, then acted selfishly and traumatized their children. Now their children don't have children out of duty but put more thought into it.
Well, that is a defeatist, dangerous nihilistic approach which risks leading the human race to extinction. We could take a different approach and say that children are our only hope of changing the world for the better and changing the system, because only a new generation can make a change for the better.
@@tentimetex most of us were taught in school about overpopulation and how it's manufacturing poverty, slavery, and violence around the world which lead to ge*ocide and mass mu*der anyways over material things like territories and resources. If someone has 3 wives and 7 kids and can't afford anything at all but refuses to get a vasectomy or condom they're really stupid. So stupid in fact I've seen documentaries where families actually consider SELLING THEIR CHILDREN. We live in a sick world. A lot of children were told to keep their trauma to themselves. Well these children are grown up now and know what's up.
@@kalayne6713 I agree and UA-cam is hiding my reply for some reason to tentimetix but basically all those children who went through trauma and were told to keep quiet know what's up and aren't participating blindly because they don't want to repeat the same mistakes as their parents.
Ultimately, the problem that the politicians (who want their beloved GDP growth to be eternal), and CEO's of the largest companies (who want ever increasing profits) have, is that we working class people simply don't care about this issue at all. Fewer people sounds fantastic, and not having a kid saves me a FORTUNE in an ever expensive world. It doesn't take a genius to realise that the boomer generation could support an entire family from one job, whereas Gen Z would be lucky to afford a single child on a combined income. I fully support anyone not having kids for economic reasons - we don't owe our country a single kid, nevermind multiple.
That's fine if you are not expecting the children who Are born to fund your retirement. By not having children your values won't survive the next generation. The future will be religious, conservative and iliberal. Because these are the children who are being born in large numbers. Gen A are religious and conservative.
Add to that those that were having kids in 90s and 00s were stigmatized as benefit scroungers. Its laughable my 3 mates only 2 have had 1 kid each and there stories of child care costs have put me off. Also they both suffer from anxiety now a massive difference from them 5 years ago.
@errolneptune3995 I feel you on the benefits scroungers comment - my two sisters both had children young in the early 2000's, (16 and 18) and they definitely felt demonised for it - particularly in national newspapers. Fast forward to today, and the same newspapers cry about the birth rate being low... The cost is a huge factor too. I would happily have a child myself, but not at the expense of having to sacrifice the majority of life's luxuries.
Do we really have to ask this question? I mean the problems we have nowadays to just survive are too much for younger generations to get born comfortably, and we have to sit there, and do nothing but discuss ? Like what change is it gonna make?
Both people work 40 hours a week now. We went to college instead of starting families. Very expensive, pediatricians are nasty to parents, our food is horrible in the US, there is no path here anymore for anyone, and teachers want more involvement from parents every year on top of our own jobs those are my reasons for not having a second.
It's good that mainstream media are begining to address this issue at last because it's been almost totally ignored until now. In the recent past, when the issue's been raised by famous public commentators like Musk, they've been laughed at as if they're some sort of misogynistic freakshow.
The world's population has tripled since WW2 and our Earth is NOT coping with human consumption and waste. The idea that population growth can continue forever, is absurd.
Poor and worsening living standards and less people in relationships are the main reasons. Before anyone mentions birth rates being high in countries with extreme poverty, you'll also see that access to education is very poor in those countries. Educated people know that having children will drastically worsen their standard of living, while uneducated people often just see having children as a fact of life. Also families in poor countries tend to send their children to work when they're young so they start bringing in money for their family instead of being dependents. Educated people know that children need time and support until they get a good education to have a good chance at life, so supporting children into their early 20s, potentially later with our economy, is part of people's calculation in developed countries.
Neo-liberal Capitalism fights every nickel, dime, reduced work hours, worker right, paid leave, paid sick leave, workplace occupational health & safety regulation, industry pay rise, and equal right there is or will ever be. Nothing but greed driven, entitled narcissists with a bottomless satisfaction reach.
Considering the world is currently over-populated this should be seen as a positive sign. Sure, the global economy will shrink, but I think we should consider the long term benefits over the short term economic decline.
You do not understand the problem. You will have many pensioners supported by a smaller, ever-shrinking population of working age people. This means a fall in productivity, greater taxes, much higher inflation and a prolonged era of Global Depression.
Not the sharpest tool are you?? Shrinking population will shrink the economy and send people below the poverty level and the standard of living will go down. Economy has to be continuously fed. It cannot sustain by itself
@@csuporj No, house prices will collapse. But taxes on working aged people will rise to gigantic levels. Even then, those taxes will be insufficient to give the elderly a decent pension. Those people who adopt the DINKS (Double Income No Kids) lifestyle are not cheating the system. What they are doing is running an enormous Ponzi Scheme. All the money that they are now saving by not having babies, will have to be paid back when these people become pensioners.
I can't afford my future, or maintain a quality of life as a family of one, but how can I expect to do that with a child, and I have no clue even what my partner would be like, they can leave and die. All these are too risky.
A smaller population is required for ecological balance. We need to adjust to this. Increasing population is unsustainable -- causes considerable hardship such as competition for resources, space, food, water, & carbon dioxide, pollution, loss of the natural world & expensive housing.
I struggle with living like a person, but I have a 1-year-old daughter. For me, life is hard with or without the kids. Her presence gives me strength and comfort. I can dedicate myself to doing my best for her. It might not be the same for you. Still, I wish you happiness.
I don't think it's a bad thing that people have less children, it's better for the world, less poverty, less pollution less strain on mineral resources and many other things. People are looking at the negative but not looking at the positive of it. When on door closes another door opens!
Do you not want to be taken care of when you are old? Who will pay taxes in the future? No kids, no future, backwards countries will takeover and world will turn to shit again and the cycle will start again.
The cost of living in Norway is high, but it is becoming more acceptable and normal not to have children by choice. This can be applied to many developed countries.
It means less people in the workforce and less money going into the welfare programs that you no doubt are a fan of. Cats and dogs don’t pay into those programs.
latrinemarine.....our economic system will break down anyway ( in the next 20 - 30 years )!..... automatisation and AI will make more and more Jobs unnecessary ....and due to global heating (caused by overpopulation) there will be way less farming areas ( or even space to live) ......so, as less people get born as less have to starve in the future! !
One middle class income (two adults) can support a family but you have to say "no" to a lot of purchases that are common and withstand the pressure of keeping up with your neighbors. Is there a generation still alive that is willing to do without?
Here’s what I believe: (1) Fix Earth, Not Mars: If Elon Musk and the top 1% focused on world peace and healing this planet, people might actually feel hopeful enough to bring more children into the world. (2) Real Support for female: Parenting shouldn’t feel like a financial cliff. Imagine a universal income that truly supports women (whether they have a partner or not) for 18 years, enough to make raising a child with little risk even alone. (3) Bring Back Connection: Our society is drowning in oversexualization. We have a derailed masculine culture vs a population of stronger and more conscious women. We’ve lost sight of true human connection, and it’s destroying relationships. It’s time to shift the focus back to kindness, love, and real values in all areas of educational programs and communications.
I'm in Canada, originally from Afghanistan. Some Afghan refugees I know (came here recently) find work without even speaking proper English and support families of 10 to 15 with it. Here's how, Two or three brothers rent a big house together, one of them covers the rent with their salary, the other one supports daily expenses, and the third one saves the money in case the family needs it for emergency situations. Their wives, because they don't have much else to do, organize parties, cook food that will truly amaze you, and keep the house so well that it looks like a palace inside. All the children, women, men are extremely happy, nobody is depressed, house is full of love and energy. And then you see a dude outside with 2 dogs complaining about economy! The afghans are happy they got out of afghanistan and can breath in peace now, their daughters can study and they can be warm and have food.
I am an anomaly. I am 40, pregnant now and have one child. In the USA. I am terrified as women's Healthcare, and Healthcare in general is horrid and getting worse with the new regime. I may lose all my Healthcare by 2026. There is a growth in crime related to identity and the government only cares about improving the lives of Christians, and extremist evangelical Christians are the ones who are procreating and they want to push their ideology and religion on every aspect of education and government. It's terrifying. The politicians now in control are highly xenophobic and truly seem to make to want immigrants suffer.
Toxic household chemicals, detergents, fabric conditioners & body products like shampoos etc are hormone disrupters as are micro plastics. They can also cause cancer and neurological disorders. So some of it will be infertility caused by that.
Why would I put a new life on this earth? All we do is work to eat and live somewhere, maybe to afford something fun in a while. I can't afford a child and there's no good future ahead for children. Fascism and wars are coming.
The fact that we need to work down to the bone to just survive, forget bringing children to the world to look after... Two income households aren't just the norm, it's a must to survive
If you can't afford to have one child in full daycare while you work then don't expect people to have children. I don't take a loan out knowing I can't pay it. Also remember that many people see having children as negative impact on their lives now rather than a positive.
Who wants to bring children into a world facing a climate crisis that threatens to close the corridor of life and voters increasingly electing climate-denying far-right extremists? As long as the focus is not on preserving life here on Earth, it is compassionate not to subject one’s children to what lies ahead.
The cost of living crisis is the cost of renting/cost of mortgage crisis - if you make it affordable for people to put a roof over their head then they might be more likely to have children. Government doesn't do anything to address the immorality of treating property as an investable asset, because half of MP's are landlords - ironically the same people wonder why they can't achieve economic growth when landlords basically pocket the wages of people who actually contribute to the economy.
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The problem is institutional. All Governments are tasked as if they were Ranchers raising cattle. There are a lot of facets to that job; the main task being that the cows must perceive that the Rancher works FOR the cows . That veil has been lifted and the cows are on to the end game. Takes away to urge to fulfill their role or providing future meat for the mill.
How is this even a real question? College and/or university educated professionals can't even afford to live alone. In Canada, the cost of daycare is often higher than rent. Only rich people can afford children.
Why do people want to live alone?
Tbf people in the past have often continued to have many children despite living in poverty. But they often didn't have freedom to choose.
@@lunadrurie6686 because the mother stayed home to look after the children. Now mothers have to work because 1 salary isn't enough
@@nickb220I’m a genxer from the US. It was a given that after college you would move out of your parents’ home to strike out on your own. With or without roommates. Living with your parents in your twenties as a dude meant you were a looser plus no privacy if you wanted a lady to stay overnight.
Consume less and you'll have more money
Rent is the highest form of birth control.
Correction high rates of immigration, which causes high rent.
Such ignorance 😂 The previous generations neglect to build enough housing to meet the demand EVEN IF there had been lower immigration! You can’t blame everything on them… unless of course you are racist 👀
Lack of potential partners is another birth control. Some women can have children on their own as long as they have enough finances, others care less for finances as they can make do but need a man to stand by and help mentally, etc.
For example, I met only 2 potential men in my life. One was rejected for having 3 kids before met me- and now he is dead I can't change my mind. Second is unsuitable unless he would be chained at home which would be illegal and also unsuitable because it would set bad examples to the children. So at times lack of potential choices makes it also impossible
I'd say mortgage trumps this
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Bring migration down, house prices come down and salaries go up. Meaning people can afford children.
They don't want this. Hence mass migration causing high rent, house prices and low salaries.
I have a better question: Why do news outlets keep asking a question with such obvious answers?!
Company’s are doing layoffs as we speak despite record profits and they are still asking these stupid questions.
Then lying and saying "it's complicated".
They (and their owners) don't want to hear the obvious answer.
The future of the world is faked up. Who wants to bring kids to that😮
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Because kids require time and money. And people have less and less of both.
Agreed
What?how?
Why?
They have the same amount of time as people have always had- they just prioritize other things than family and then look for excuses
@@S62r netflix > kids
Children used to be necessities, they are now luxuries, and few can afford luxuries.
So why is Japan not having kids and Thailand not having kids. One is wealthy, one is not.
@AustrianPainter14 the original post still applies. Japanese people struggle with child cost along with the work/school culture stealing so much time from parents with their kids.
@@AustrianPainter14 normal Japanese workers are not wealthy, they have reliable public services but not earning much
Moving the goalposts are we? So Japanese and Thai workers are in the same boat? How about South Koreans and Chinese or Singaporeans?
Face it, this has nothing to do with finances. It’s entitled driven by Vvomen.
@@AustrianPainter14 women are having kids all the time, just not with you
This question, that has been asked countless times, will receive the same answer countless times. It’s too expensive, the world doesn’t feel safe right now, parents have not made parenting look fun or desirable, the economy is unstable, parents don’t get any support, the village mentality is long gone, and society undoes parents hard work.
Good summary 👍 it’s a multi faceted issue
You nailed it!
But why are all these things happening? Perhaps it's b/c the Earth is too populated and Nature won't allow unsustainable growth to continue forever. All the negatives you mention may be just the symptoms. Overpopulation itself is the root cause. Resources are more scarce resulting in higher prices, requiring people to work more to get the limited resources, meaning there's no time or money to raise kids, etc. Add to that the carbon emissions that are drastically changing the planet and making life much more difficult and resources even more scarce and wars and diseases more likely.
Most young people can't afford to buy a home, never mind renting. Make home affordable, and you should see the birth rate go up again. I won't hold my breath, though. Too many selfish people are only interested in lining their pockets
They never covered the economic profiles of those not wanting to have kids. My educated guess from anecdotal evidence is poorer working classes have more children then those with disposable incomes. Why? Bc middle class people /those who have to pay for costs themselves will be more diligent with their money and consider the true costs of raising a child long term... They'd rather a better car or nice holiday or private school or extra paid for activities for the 1 or 2 kids they already have, rather than have a 3rd and have to suffer /go down a rung on the economic ladder. Our nation has more of these types of people who would rather be comfortable in life with 1 or 2 kids rather than suffer hardships with 3 or 4 kids.
Meanwhile, in Sudan: "we have no food or shelter, and the hot desert where we live is always at war. Let's have 7 children 😃"
@@phoque121They’re NUTS.
@@phoque121 Nothing to be proud of!
@@phoque121we need to introduce birth control there. they are crazy.
People used to start having kids when they were very young, before they could really understand the gravity of it. Now people are waiting much longer, they can think about what it means to have children, and then, whether for selfish or selfless reasons, they think twice.
Yes ..
Their bigger head is control now
But it is good.. rather than being fooled and wasting time @@TheMusicmak3r
@@WorkingMan-m4t hey WorkingMan listen to WorkingMan by Rush
There is no selfless reason to have biological children in the first place.
Imagine a world with fewer people. Less crowding. Less strain on the environment. More room for other species.
Imagine being able to spend time at an uncrowded beach. Imagine being able to go to a major site like the bottom of the Ground Canyon without the need to make a reservation months in advance. Imagine uncrowded country and mountain roads.
The near term problem is the worry about not having an adequate workforce to care for an aging popultaion. You need to pay close attention to how close we are to humanoid robots and full self-driving taking over very large numbers of human jobs.
So why do you insist on flooding western civilization with the third world then? Why not reduce third world birthrates if you truly believed this?
The only thing we will have is s collspsed socioty, if 90% are old people who the hell is going to take care of them. No money, no nurses. Just billions of old people
You can imagine a lot of things if your imagination is sufficiently creative. But that's not reality. A declinning population means declining supply chains. Which means we'll have a technological collapse long before we run out of people.
"You need to pay close attention to how close we are to humanoid robots and full self-driving taking over very large numbers of human jobs."
You need to have engineers who can work on this problem. We're well past the peak of engineering talent. More than half of the world's high end engineering talent is in Korea/Japan/Taiwan/Germany/Italy. They all have rapidly collapsing workforces. They've haven't been turning Nigerian's into electrical engineers.
So you have countries suffering from intense economic decline, their engineers are not only dying but more importantly turning past age 60 2 decades ahead of their deaths. As they fail to recruit engineers their economies fail.
This means their economies more or less have to exit global supply chains. This is literally happening as we speak.
America/Trump is trying to capitalize on this and attempt to dominate virtually every industry they can. At some point they'll run into a shortage of competent engineers.
EDIT: India won't save you, their education gap is massive, the majority of Indian's population are barely able to read. There's the top 6th of the population that are relativlely well educated.
In India the Government gives NOTHING to its citizens anyways. So we dont care about the younger generation paying for the older generation. Everyone needs to save up and use it for our retirement. Why will we add children as an additional expenditure to eat our savings?
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All of us can imagine. None of us can accurately predict the future.
Supply chains. If a lower population means less need for ores, processing, and factories then we'll have less of them. That does not mean that we can't have the things we need and want.
Engineers. If you are concerned about enough children born today in Korea/Japan/Taiwan/Germany/Italy that means you are ignoring the massive untapped populations in other countries like Indonesia, India, and the continents of Africa and South America. Genius and high intelligence are not based on country of birth or origin of parents. If we need more highly educated STEM people then we can set up good educational opportunities in places which currently are ignored. And don't foolishly write off India. That would be very a very ignorant thing to do.
Trump. Do you not understand who this person is? Do you not understand that he is a con man and a fool? That he cares nothing for anything or anyone other than himself? Please don't allow yourself to be one of his victims.
@dixonhill1108
All of us can imagine. None of us can accurately predict the future.
Supply chains. If a lower population means less need for ores, processing, and factories then we'll have less of them. That does not mean that we can't have the things we need and want.
Engineers. If you are concerned about enough children born today in Korea/Japan/Taiwan/Germany/Italy that means you are ignoring the massive untapped populations in other countries like Indonesia, India, and the continents of Africa and South America. Genius and high intelligence are not based on country of birth or origion of parents. If we need more highly educated STEM people then we can set up good educational opportunites in places which currently are ignored. And don't foolishly write off India. That would be a very ignorant thing to do.
Trump. Do you not understand who this person is? Do you not understand that he is a con man and a fool? That he cares nothing for anything or anyone other than himself? Please don't allow yourself to be one of his victums.
We are taught from young to live within our means and not to buy things we cannot afford. Yet now we are told to have babies - something we cannot afford and cannot be resold.
Who is telling us to have babies?
Social norms and when you get to a age older relatives will always be happy ask your plans for the future!! Grandma wants to be great
Well said
Children are a huge financial burden. If you want me to have kids, then pay me-simple as that. We live in a hyper-capitalist society, and this is just the reality of it: you reap what you sow.
Have children when U can because there comes a time when you can't!
If you want children in the world, you need a world worth bringing them into.
Why is this world not worth it?
@@maseehwardak6055things today are better than they ever have been in the west. My grandfather was born in 1888 when things were actually hard. The world was expected to be a rough place. You just soldiered on.
Because companies treat people like meat to a grinder and do everything they can to not pay us more
NO @@maseehwardak6055
@@maseehwardak6055 How about bills that are not coming down, wages not going up, abysmal future for most people for a start?
1990: the world is overpopulated, we need to slow birth rates!
2025: HAVE BABIES!
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Need to cosider the place...😮
They actually need new slaves to replace our roles when we grow older. How about giving them a NO then?
Raising a child is a full-time job
no, its not
@@haighton it depends on your attitude, if you consider him as kind of animal and without any expectations on his future, yes it’s not. If you would like to send him to Stanford university or so when he grows to 18 years old, well that will be a huge cost to your family(need to raise and educate him well since kindergarten)
It's true. And that job goes into the mother. Pathetic.
@@haighton just like a man to say that! This is another reason birthrate is going down, because of men like you.
Extremely expensive better buy a car or go long holidays all your life that is for sure👍🤣
It would be selfish to have babies if you cannot take care of them financially, emotionally and physically.
It would be selfish regardless
@ Exactly
@bolotabr12 Try telling that to South Africa. 33 teenage mothers gave birth on Christmas Day, with several of them 14 or younger. Many of them were impregnated by tribal elders, whom one would hope would know better.
However, about 20 teenage boys died from ensuing infections after having their genitals mutilated on various hilltops by dodgy "initiation practioners", so there is some sort of grim balance going on.
Im often told by my parent's generation that I am selfish not to have kids. When they were younger, it was easy for them to rely on their social networks to raise and fund children. These days, that's impossible.
Tell that to the immigrants that are clearly abusing the tax payer system
Single, childfree, millennial woman here. No thanks, I'll pass!
Same here! 6 years into „solo for life“ and thriving. Have identified as childfree at 19. being solo added even more quality. Decentralising men and focusing on my education, friendships and building a quiet life, has been really good for me (I’m Swiss, adopted).
Just this comment alone makes you an attractive millennial woman. Perfect dating target for the boys.
@@MariaCarabinwait till you get old and would like some people near you
The answer is no money. This saves you 18 mins
Then you weren't listening properly
No. Female hypergamy and social media has a huge role.
It's pretty much more women entering the workforce and wanting to progress their careers, lack of community due to social media, more expenses, lower median wages to compensate for cost of living, and the allure of non essentials over raising children.
It's all going to collapse within this century. Not enough taxpayer base to support people later on. We're screwed. We are already seeing the implications in South Korea, Japan and Canada. @@John_Doe643
@@John_Doe643 majority of men are not inkels like you lool. It’s money problem.
Right, although that begs the question why are kids too expensive now vs say 50 years ago?
Less people getting out of the house > Less meeting people > Less dating > Less marrying > Less buying a house > Less financial stability > Less children, yet they only care about the last part because it affects their taxes.
I agree. The only way you can win with children in today’s environment is if you are extremely rich or you are extremely poor. The poor can afford a lot of kids if the government pays for their food, housing and childcare.
I agree. The only way you can win with children in today’s environment is if you are extremely rich or you are extremely poor. The poor can afford a lot of kids if the government pays for their food, housing and childcare.
Yeah but the births Rates are declining since the Baby boomers so?! They Had way more Options and still reproduced insuffiently?
@@ebonneenelson2325 Also the poor dont care about quality of life nor if their kids get a good education.
I meet a lot of people and only two potentials who got rejected for their life choices. So if the rest of potentials don't get out then maybe you are right- my problem is I have no one suitable, and I do not mean finances at all, when it comes to finances I am sure I can make do with whatever falls on me.
I called my MP about the disgracefully under necessary calorie lunches for children on free school meals. Kids fainting from hunger in class. They told me point blank that they feed their own children and wouldn’t have had them if they couldn’t. It was repulsive. So my generation grows up. We don’t have the children we can’t afford as all these people told us not to do and then they throw their hands up and complain. Not because perhaps more people would like to have children and that’s sad, but because we aren’t undertaking the huge effort of raising the next round of worker bees to be exploited or sent off to war. We don’t owe them another tier on the pyramid scheme.
I totally agree. And anyway, they did not train men to be masculine, responsible and grow up into maturity- meaning mature mindset. And not every woman wants children so badly she will have it no matter what. From financial strain to maturity quest, there are so many problems with society already long ago.
In Australia feeding your children is not a taxpayers responsibility. It's a child welfare issue
@@grannyannie2948 That's what my MP was saying if I've understood you right. To which my point is it is ridiculous to be criticised for having followed that advice. That the generation you hammered that point home to, who are now living through a housing and cost of living crisis, decide to not have kids. The messaging in the UK when I was a teen/early twenties was the worst thing you could be is a young mum with several kids. It would be shameful for your kids to rely on the council lunches. Yet now the messaging has flipped saying it's awful we aren't having kids till we are financially secure in our 30s because they want the tax base, soldiers and worker bees. You can surely see that would annoy that generation. The work those young women were doing of having and raising children was actually very important for society and the economy and yet they were treated with such resentment.
@@clairegamble3918 I'm sorry it was just a throw away comment, but it is different here, at school children don't have a dinner, there's no dining room, they have a light lunch they bring from home, and eat outside in the playground. A sandwich and an apple, perhaps. So within the means of the very poor. Today some schools offer free toast in the morning as some kids don't eat breakfast. But this is in part because of working mothers rather than poverty.
I actually raised my daughters with a different plan. Concentrate on finding a good bloke and establishing a family. You have seven years to do this, you have the rest of your life to go to university and have a career. So there are lots of worker bees, that I love dearly. I hope this problem gets solved for their sake.
I'm a single millennial (34yrs) with 2 kids and a mortgage. I managed because I got onto it when I was in my early 20s when things were manageable. I wouldn't want to be doing it now with the cost of living and housing prices as well as the way society is.
"Single millennial".. that's sad (not in a mean way but sad int he fact you are a single parent). It's hard to find someone that you get along with let alone someone who understands how hard parenting is and will want to stick with you through that. No one understands that kids and a relationship are basically two other full time jobs.
@Spacemonkeymojo I used to be a single millennial, I remarried again a year past.
If I was left in the situation now, divorced with no financial support from my ex, having had to reduce my hours and taking a career hit, I would probably be homeless. That was over 10 years ago though.
I worked my arse off to get promotion after promotion to get a livable wage. I don't think I would have got by if it happened now because my livable wage, as a senior Engineer, only covers the basics for existence. Teenagers are particularly pricey as your basically feeding adults. Not to mention driving lessons and such because a Saturday job doesn't quite cut it at £35 a lesson now.
@@katiemcdonald5988 you’re lucky, I’m sure there are plenty of single mothers out there whose weak exes ran out on them.
Wow, same. Im 34 with a 13 and 14 year old. I left 12 ish years ago and was able to keep my head above water while I put my head down and worked so freaking hard @@katiemcdonald5988🎉 good on you!
Same age, Im married now, but I was a single mom for a bit with my oldest. Ive been saying how just in 2010 I was able to completely provide for us making $10/hour with no help. I mean dont get me wrong. I worked my butt off, and we weren't living lavishly. But we had a roof over our heads and I was never particularly worried about how I would pay for stuff. Trying to pull that off now simply wouldn't be possible. Now you can make 20 an hour and still just doesn't go that far.
I don't wanna have kids becuz I live in an environment where you have to be excellent to get by and you're punished for being ordinary. I don't wanna exchange my well-being for the resources needed to raise a kid. And I also don't have the heart to see my precious kid(s) stuck in endless rat race just to survive.
asian culture😢
Agree on that!
Agreed!!! I very sad to me since i wanted to become a mother but i just could NEVER EVER DO THIS TO MY CHILD!
EXACTLY. I don't want to go through thte entire process of "Childbirth" but more than that. I don't want my kids to go through even HALF of what I went through - Which is a life I cannot provide them unfortunately - If they are to survive in this country, they have to keep pushing till they lose their minds
@@isabellacostantino2497having a child in this day and age is sadistic
I always wanted to have at least four children. I have done babysitting and nursery duty. I was raised in and around the Catholic community where 8+ kids in a family was the norm. Now, at 32, i have to come to grips with reality. Many of us are heartbroken about not being able to afford to have kids. It's considered to be complicated grief. Again, I always looked forward to having kids. So the grieving process has been very hard. I've shed so many tears over it, and will continue to mourn throughout my 30s. The death of a dream, and something I always assumed would happen.
One massive omission: those women, and men, who just don’t want children. There’s all this talk about “can’t” while ignoring those who given the choice simply don’t want that life. Children would be better off if they were raised by people who genuinely want them, not by people who are socially pressured.
Thats why "Why have children?" is the most important question.
Ppl are ready to go a great lenght when they want something. Think about all the junk shit, designer cloths, fancy new cars, pets, yet when it comes to children all they see is burden and cost.
@ with respect I don’t think those things are comparable with the “burden” of raising children. I believe there are plenty of people who genuinely want children. Let the world’s population stabilize. We don’t need continual growth. Only the big corporations need “growth”….
@@maxinahunt8652 Present time is objectively the peak of progress humanitry have accomplished so far. Opportunities are nearly endless, education is available. Look at evry possible metric and compare it to 100years back, yikes, compare to 50 years back. Now is better. So why people don't have children?
Because they don't want to.
Why?
In addition, the issue is not population is about to stabilize, we're past the point of population stabilizing. Some nations are on the trajectory towards extinction.. Literally that. Any nation nearing 1.0 TFR. Just do the maths: with every new generation halved, how long can a nation remain itself?
@@maxinahunt8652 i hate when YT drops my comments. I replied to your comment and i dont see it. YT comments suck.
*women don’t want children
Men have always and will always want children.
Patriarchy = marriage + large brood
Because those in power have already overexploited the resources.
What, while everyone else was being frugal and perfect? 😅
@bootscooty this idea of willpower is kind of a myth. There are thousands of people working to advertise unhealthy products to you through manipulation and addict you to your phones daily. And the people getting rich out of this psychological manipulation don't care if you end up sick and poor if they get to be rich.
28 year old female from the US here. I have a dual engineering degree and have worked on top projects at 2 fortune 50 (FIFTY) companies. Grew up in a single breadwinner household. Can’t even afford the life my parents provided to me, much less a better life for my child, and that’s without inflation. When someone hands me $900k I’ll have a kid, otherwise not interested in dropping below the poverty line to add only stress to my life
I know money is often cited as the reason but i think that's only half the story. Unless you have 'f u' money, your lifestyle takes a huge hit after having kids. Not to mention that in modern society, it's both parents having to work and that means lots of tough decisions in the early years around childcare, working late, overtime etc. It's like working an additional job on top of the day job.
exactly
A very dirty, smelly, loud, distressing job too for the first couple years 😆
You said money is half of the story and you prove it with you comment, where is the other half of the problem ?
... which would not be necessary, if in first place one income could cover that family needs? Right? Or not?
When you don’t really want kids you can just point to the largest challenge (cost of living) as your excuse to make it sound less selfish
The wolves are unhappy because sheeps are not reproducing.
I disagree now, at the end of 2024, then I ever would have before because now they really do want lower class people dead. If they kill us off, make us homeless, starve us out, then they have more money for themselves to invest in AI that can do 90% of jobs that currently do exist. I wish I was dreaming!
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The wolves are happy because the childless sheep is weak and delusional thinking they winning while they are only depending on them more and more.
sheep*
@@WilliamSantos-cv8rrSo bringing more sheep is winning for both? What exactly is your point?
I don't want to go through the pain of pregnancy and childbirth. I don't want my child to go through this meaningless rat race.
Same here. Society is telling me I need to find someone to have a child with, risk my life and wellbeing, possibly become a single parent, spend the best years of my life doing 24/7 labor for free, just because I might not enjoy my retirement because of lack of money and/or loneliness? And then watch as my child has to suffer from war, dictatorship, climate change or all of the above? No thanks, I'd rather start saving now, make a lot of friends and hope for the best.
As long as having children is a poverty garante, people will not have more children. When the society provide more affordability for childcare, schools, colleges, work life balance etc things will not change. Period. No talk show, smart written articles and essays or documentary are neccessary for that. Those in power and in possession of wealth must decide: EITHER they exploit people with small salaries OR they finally see their fellow human beings as such and pay solid wages and provide a good social structure for families. End of story.
People with kids see their income grow faster than those without.
@@SweBeach2023 How so? Parents cannot work and provide as much, than people without kids. The expenses are higher and the impact on their career is quite severe. Parents are often not promoted as much and they have to work hard to keep up with a fast changing work environment. So? How do you back up your statement?
@@SweBeach2023illogical
There's another choice: better wages and no kids. Best of both worlds.
@@eltonguapyassu Better wages sounds good. But some people want to have a familiy. If society wants to continue to exist, then politicians should enable people to do so.
Because no one has a spare 200k
4 years‘ college tuition is more than that？
Middle east and PK immigrants do many births and get support from government.
@@ホホホ-p2f not in the UK. Not yet. OP is English.
or if you're on benefits....
@@ホホホ-p2f Only in the US, most civilised countries no.
All of europe is demographically imploding. Why? House prices, day care, living costs, education & student loans are all way too high. A couple of 2 needs to work the entire week to barely get by. On top of this it is almost impossible for a large segment of the younger population to buy a house. How on earth do you expect people to start a family without this stability? The boomer generation has once again destroyed our futures with politicians trying to plug the demographic gap with mass immigration. Slapping ducttape on the problem instead of fixing it and helping the younger generations. It is short sighted and foolish.
I think the top knows it is imploding. We don't have the population.
That's why Republican are enforcing anti-abortion.
The Democrats see that migrations can help.
The migrant workers (illegal) are the vocal points of it that the next term administration wants to get rid of. One tough question is that who will replace those workers? Majority of Americans want desk job with AC. They don't want to work on the field (farms, construction, and hostel) as it's stressful physically and mentality with little pay and quite dangerous.
No it isn’t. Stop making excuses. We live in the most economically and materially prosperous conditions ever, in all of human history. And you’re complaining having children is “impossible”. Move to the countryside, rent, don’t spend as much on consumerist filth you don’t need, do anything! But no, our generation seems to think that it is a moral catastrophe that we live slightly less comfortably than our parents. Heads up, if you decide not to have children, then the situation will be even worse for the next generation.
@@straven479 You're living in a delusion if you believe that this isn't an issue. A "moral" catastrophy? What are you on about. This is a socio-economic train wreck leaving many individuals in the UK/EU without even the CHOICE of having a child. Purely financially for many it is an impossibility. Why else is the birthrate imploding? You tell me. Because we're all entitled? Because we just don't feel like it? Perhaps we all need to magic our way out of it and "live in the countryside" whilst commuting 4 hours into London. Genius.
@@straven479 No. Because if there is a shortage of labor, the corporations will have to offer higher wages and benefits to attract workers. The smaller population will emit less greenhouse gases, which will be better for the planet.
@@straven479 Cost of living and people barely have enough saving. How can they afford another human when they are struggling to make ends meet? Get off that gaming platform and come to the real world.
Because everything's very expensive!!! Groceries, gas, house/rent, university, health care etc
No. Birthrates are also very low where people live in luxury - where they can afford everything they want and where childcare, education and healthcare is covered by the state.
@@parcomolo256let's face it: children are a burden, it demands sacrifices and the rich ones don't want any sacrifices
Why a healthy young adult female would rather chose surrogates and nannies otherwise?
Correct!
@@parcomolo256 could it be that some people just don't want children in this unstable world? I know people who've had children and are now terrified about their future. No, thanks. Also, most people don't live in luxury, by definition the "luxury in a country with social transfers" population is quite small. Maybe a few countries in Europe. Statistically it wouldn't change much if they all had children. Very few people can "afford everything", even with free healthcare and school, I live in a country like that.
I am a 30 year old male and I am a Sudanese-Canadian living in Canada 🇨🇦. The main reason why I cannot have children is because of the Cost of living crisis. Everything is expensive, house, groceries, cars, insurance, gas prices.
So, due to this reason I will not be having children anytime soon.
Go to sudan😅
Well played, you are a man. 45 to 50 is a good age for you sir.
(I had kids at 22 years old 😅)
Go to sudan
@@browningmaxus5360 elaborate please, don't be shy
Jesus , that's some bad take. Go to Sudan ? Wtf ? Dude, don't listen to those guys ,Keep on Grinding my brother ,use your money wisely, I can't afford a house in Israel but I bought a flat in Romania , just invest and hope for the best.
Use your leverage of currency disparity, and maybe one day we can live like people.
Let's hope Pier will sort shit up.
Is it reversable? Yeah, when the time is right. Governments are too worried about the birthrate, while a record number of people live on the street, jobless, without healthcare, filled with hopelessness. Yet still looking around asking 'where are the babies'? I want to see a whole program exploring and explaining the coercive practices. Like where governments are restricting access to things like birth control. When that is in place it will just be a situation of more kids being born into places where they are unwanted. And people being forced into being pregnant, there is enough of that already.
Yes, it's the system that's the problem, not the birthrates. It's based on growth like capitalism and collapses under decline.
Its almost like looking around at the misery and saying 'let them eat cake'.
Studies show that everywhere only rich people are having children now... speaks volumes about the what the problem is.
can you provide the link of these studies
@@FunnyTikTokUA-camwhat's link . Be aware brother . Winter is coming for you
@@FunnyTikTokUA-cam No, I don't see it as my job to inform you. Nor am I buying your bull about no links === not true. If you really want to know google it yourself. It isn't difficult if you really care.
The poorest have the most kids lol
@@aftereight9143 Ah bless, you really believe that. I bet you think people can still buy a new car for 500 pounds and that the rent for a 4 bedrrom flat is just 350 pounds a month. Sadly what you think and what the reality is are two different things
What would be the purpose to give birth to a production machine that will be abused at work and discarded when it isn't good enought?
The wolfs cry when the sheep refuse to breed.
You are so weak that you rather kill your own potential kids than show some hard work and resilence. Very sad. I have 3 kids and I woudnt trade them for anything. No matter the hardship, hard work, late nights etc. They are my treasure. I am rich having them.
They only cry for so long, then they start yelling, then they take over governments to enrich and empower themselves even more, then the sheep become so numerous that they overtake the wolves and the cycle repeats. It’s insane how certain types of people perpetuate this cycle through greed, even if they know the historical sequence of events.
@@eedre4864 So true!
Same reason women get to vote when they shouldn’t be allowed to.
Yes, the rich profit from cheap labor, not us. God forbid they'll have to fighf for their workers.
My focus is retirement early. I can sleep at night knowing I didn’t bring a child into this world. It’s becoming a horrible place and it’s going to get worse.
Yup, I don’t want my kid to perish in the water wars of 2040
Who will pay for your retirement?
@ Who? That will be me. I planned my saving around the notion SS won’t be there. If it is, it’s an added bonus.
@@magesalmanac6424 water wars ??😂😂😂
@@grannyannie2948 you've convinced me. I'm going to have 3 children in the next few years and raise them for 20 years, sacrificing my best years, for a lot of money, just so I can have a small pension in retirement. That makes sense. In my country you get a pension for working, not for having children. Who's gonna pay for it is none of my concern, I'm sure they can shift the budget.
costs skyrocketed. I'm not gonna live in a 2-room (living room + bedroom) condo with a man and kids. I've lived like that with 2 siblings and my parents for 11yrs already. On 55 square meters. No thank you!
Grandparents are still working so can’t help with childcare (even if they were willing, which most western grandparents aren’t) and each household requires 2 incomes. Relationships are breaking up left, right and centre. Women don’t feel financially or emotionally secure and we have more insight now into the reality of being working mothers at the same time there’s more expectation on parents than ever psychologically and materially.
I must be the exception then. I have been providing childcare for my six gkids for 12 years.
The growth addiction is what everyone is concerned about but no one wants to talk about. The world passed 4 billion people in 1975. Last year it passed 8 billion. We were just fine at 4 billion.
Capitalism and our current social structure relies on it - no politicians will openly discuss it, but they all know it. I'm not some raging anti-capitalist but the system isn't sustainable, it never was. A new system needs to be introduced by minds far smarter and more knowledgable than I.
Exactly. It's the system that's broken, not the people.
As someone who's had chronic illness which no one gives a shit about, you're taking a giant risk when you have a kid. You may, like my mother, produce little balls of suffering.
How old was your mother when she hot pregnant?
@@WorkingMan-m4t I'll never get that old.
A “giant risk”. Really? Sorry for your illness, but it doesn’t represent the average outcome.
I'm with you. I didn't get sick till 27, but imagine if I'd got married and had a kid by then, we could afford no life.
Also pretty sure part of the reason my health is bad is that my parents fed me loads of ultra processed food growing up, which is what most people in poverty eat and is linked to awful health outcomes.
The systems are trash.
How are the young suppose to buy homes without proper jobs or incomes?
How do we survive the cost of living crisis?
How are women who choose to work full time, have kids, study and take care of a household live and thrive?
This is insane.
If they prevented private equity from gobbling up housing before low birth rates became a social norm this would not have become a trend.
Poor people are smarter now and know they can’t support a child. We should be celebrating. Why is this a bad thing?
Because poor women are not raising cheap labor. A true tragedy to a capitalist society.
Not more cheap labors for capitalists. I dont see why not.
Life sucks - why pass it on?
Because if people do not have kids, who will work to fund your pension ?
The idea of DINKS ie "Double Income No Kids" is a Ponzi Scheme. It creates higher productivity, bigger wages, less costs so long as the couple is working.
But what happens when all these DINKS couples retire ?
The entire economic system collapses. You get a severe and protracted Great Depression.
Amen
100% agree
Moronic statement.
I agreed, in several years everything will be automated anyway, there is no need for more people then.
Funny how people who have had children say that the best thing they have had in their lives is their children but the same people talk about childless people as if they are some kind of people who have avoided some civic duty and they should be ashamed.
The political right see fertility decline as the result of poverty. The political left see fertility decline as the result of moral decay.
I for one do not say that. I realize that some of their taxes go into raising my three kids, too. For example, school is fully tax-funded here.
@@erikt1713eww government schools…
It is a civic duty, you want other to bare a universally needed burden, then those same kids you took no part in raising have to pay higher tax’s because you’ll think you earned Social Security at a certain rate when you didn’t and force them to have a lower standard of living.
@@KeithAllen-ti4iy Here in Switzerland they are just fine. My daughter is becoming a teacher there, too.
The private schools make a difference mainly for rich kids who are struggling academically. For strong learners I would not suggest paying the fees of 30 thousand dollars per year.
It's cost of living. It's not that complicated. People can only be squeezed so much.
In the past 40 years the external forces attacking family life have developed rapidly: companies are worse to work for and worse at delivering quality goods. Screens suck the life out of us and brainwash into believing bunk ideology. Lifestyle diseases like obesity, directly caused by corporate greed, are hard to avoid. The current climate will feel like paradise compared to what it's going to be in 20 years. Food will only become more expensive. And frankly the fertility "crisis" is only a crisis for the oligarchs. For most of humanity it will be an improvement in living standards, assuming climate change and water wars don't destroy us first.
exactly. fewer exploitable workers = higher wages. this is not a crisis, it's exactly what we need.
Absolutely true. But there are too many people in this world that only care about themselves and getting more of what they don't need at the expense of others. The only solution is to have very strong regulations in place in society to keep those types of people from abusing others, abusing the environment, resources etc. Because greed is a flaw in too many himan beings. Now corporations and the wealthy are in control of our governments, manipulating everything in their favour while they degrade society and do not care while they watch the world burn from their mansions. They must be held accountable for what they've done...at this point it's really self defense.
@@nopenopenope678
Nonsense !
There will be proportionally alot more pensioners but less people of working age to support them.
This will create a Global Depression.
Well put.
The warmer the climate the better humanity does
I have one; would love to have one or two more. Daycare costs are, however, insurmountable, and my career greatly suffered after going on maternity leave, with everlasting repercussions, I can't imagine going through it again. It fills me with sadness.
I would love for my only to have at least one sibling. I grew up with many and it was great. But education/food/clothing consumption and costs grow exponentially with a child- even if the prices stay fixed. I could have 2 and then feel the guilt of not being able to provide them both with adequate resources.
The boomers assumed we could buy cheap homes on single incomes and have guaranteed pensions. We know that this is not the life our children will have. Simply working hard and harder will not provide. We can at least help provide for the future of one
I agree with you both. I've had to start saving for the next one because I'm going to have to give up work once I have my 2nd child.
I can't fathom going through the daycare sickness while working and taking care of 2 kids among other things. If I want a 3rd I'd have go back to work and have minimal maternity leave.
We wanted 4. We had 2 in our 20s but that was a stretch. We had some luck in careers and investments so that we can afford college for our first 2 and we are on track for retirement. We even decided to try for a baby in our 40s (16 year age gap) now that we're in a place that we can afford more. House paid off, no car loans. No debt. We got lucky and I had our twins at 42. But it's crazy that it took 16 years to afford that third child.
Thanks for having a child and helping the receding population! It's a tough job and we're lucky some people are still having kids. And I'm sorry you faced repercussions career-wise. This is often a cited issue that I'm surprised they didn't bring up in this video.
@@runningfromabear8354 I was going to say I hope my 2nd ends up being twins. You are blessed!
it's not that deep - wage stagnation, decreased real wages, inflation, lower standards of living, higher cost of living, very little personal time - we're not happy, we're burnt out and just surviving. no one has the resources or the inclination to make a family when they can't afford to even take care of themselves first
1997 here: I don't have kids and will never have cause this wolrd is sick.... Only wars, climate change and the feeling, that i will experience so many crisis myself, that I don't want to drag a kid into this aswell. Simply no perspectives for the young generation. Not even mentioning the costs of a child. The last i worry about is who is wiping my ass off, IF i ever get old. And if i do, my retirement will hardly exist as well. Whixh is by the way also the reason younger people are less motivated for work. Why should we be? If we ever get retired, we will hardly get any money anyway! Furthermore there are way too many people on this planet anyways and if we would drastically decrease, then there would hardly be any wars anymore simply because you need everyone to keep society working due to the lack of people. So in fact i can obly see positive things in this trend.
1977 here and completely agree with you and that is why I never had any and no regrets. To each their own but I totally agree.
You're funny.
Get ready to live in a declining world, and that means a decline in your quality of life. I am from the second oldest country in the world and things are already falling apart, too many old people that need welfare and too few youngsters that are productive. The government does not have any money to invest in research and innovation, so from our perspective we need other nations to raise the bar, because we are too old to care.
How about adopting. You could give meaning to a child's life
This is a great idea. Id love to see males run to adopt as statically males are the ones who want to be fathers ( makes babies and leave it to the women, NOPE!)@@roselineobianonwo9850
Children cost money and need stability. Without a home, this is not possible. Most people struggle to even afford an apartment, and even that is risky. Why raise a kid in a home where the landlord can change rent or kick you out. Then you have to move which ruins a kids notion of stability, safety, and the ability to keep friends if moves happen or displacement because parents can't find a place.
Animals don't mate when the environment isn't suitable. It's not that complicated.
It’s not a crisis. Population growth has its peaks and troughs. Also you can live a good life while childless. Adoption of kids should be very normalised
Most of the comments are valid reasons. Not to mention there are 8 BILLION humans, I think we can slow down now.
Good point
birth rate is only declining in europain countries and east asia. Look at the india it surpass china
i agree. there are enough poor people in africa who are vulnerable to climate change & whose lives we can improve instead of channeling our resources to new western children
Yeah. But 8 billion will grow old. What will pay taxes , pensions and do consumption
@Always1happy consumption is part of the problem. This rate is not sustainable.
One point they forgot is that research has showed that people did get fewer children in times of crisis even though they didn't have acces to efficient contraception. Right now we have had a string of different crisis like affordable housing, 2008, covid, affordable food, Ukraine, Putins treaths and visible climate disaster combined with effective contraception so of course we se a decline in fertility.
Visible climate disaster lmfao 😂
Very true! With this point the reported number of births in Russia was extremely low in 2024. I thought that was interesting
Climate disaster lmao. Im gonna get out of home and the sun is with an ak-47 in my face the cilmate is so dangerous😢😢😅
The number of people commenting here without having listened to the report is astounding
I think what we need is to focus on a future with smaller population, rather than how to boost the number. We need a new economy model that runs with a smaller and older population.
There aren't "economic models" to save us. You only get poorer and/or need to work more to maintain a life quality and society we have now.
@barondino4628 if we get poorer, who is getting richer? If there's no economic model to save us, I suppose that's the end of the dynasty. After all, there's no civilisation that survives for eternity that we know of. Perhaps this is the cycle of nature that our modern civilisation will face, and eventually forced to accept.
This should be something to consider. Never thought of this Thank You
They don't dispute the need for smaller populations just that in some countries the decline is too steep to have a stable country..
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I dont even need to listen... with the cost of living no one can afford to give their children a beautiful life.. full stop❤
Do you think our great-grandparents were helicopter parents that expected to give their children everything their little hearts desired? Our expectations are over-the-top these days. TBH, I'm not concerned about population decline - I'm more concerned about the wacky reaction people are having to it. Just read "A Handmaiden's Tale" - scary for everyone. But seriously, our society has become incredible spoiled and expectations are so much higher than they were in the past. Maybe that's not a bad thing, but this cost of living thing is a poor excuse IMO.
That's such a 1st world problem. Highest fertility rate in the world is Niger. Average yearly income of people in Niger - $620 USD. Now I agree that those are terrible conditions in which to raise children, but I think it completely debunks your argument.
@@jeffboenig395 women don't owe anyone babies, for any reason. not governments, not economies, not individual men. that's literally the number one takeaway from that book.
@@jeffboenig395 People are way more responsible in our days than in the past. You just don't bring kids into the world if you can't provide the basic. Our grandparents had children like rabbits and barely could afford them, many kids would go a day or more without eating. If young people are aware they can't provide a comfortable life for their kids, it's laudable that they choose not having them. It's called being responsible. Stop romanticizing thoughtless parenthood and poverty.
@@jeffboenig395 I'm driven to shout about population collapse because of the BS I was fed when I became a father (of one) child) in the late 90's - the 'population bomb' was utter nonsense within a year of being published, instead it got pushed for decades as being connected with reality :(
I would say finding a spouse who is not obsessed with living an instagram worthy life is quite challenging to say the least.
My only reason for not having children is that I never wantet kids. I prefer peace and quite.
Sounds like a lonely life ahead of you
@TheMsmay2 it's actually fantastic. Not having kids doesn't mean you'll be alone. Ever heard of DINKs?
@@TheMsmay2some people are okay with that . Also having kids is not going to give you a company for the rest of your life. Maybe a part of it but you kids are probably going to move and start their own thing in 18-20 years. Some very far away so you will see them 3 times a year at best. So yeah when you are older relying solely on family to keep you a company is not a great idea. You should build your community and make connections regardless. Having kids is not retirement plan it's something you do because you truly want to and because you are ready to selflessly give another human all love you can. But sadly most people don't realize that and kids end up with traumas never wanting to have much with their families.
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@@TheMsmay2 Kids, including grown ones, can cause a lot of stress and grief. Having children isn't a guarantee of happiness, either.
Maternity pay is £600 a month, my mortgage £1035. Got your answers.
“Aren’t easy to define?”
Money… we are forced to work more and things cost so damn much that many of us barely get by. Bringing a child into a world like that would be abuse!!
Because this world is a dump and getting worse, and as we become adults we realise our parents were 100% just "winging it" and now we're stuck with that baggage. Why would we do the same to the next generation and have them have to suffer? Is that not cruel?
The only excuse my mother has is that she did not know that Soviet Union will collapse and things will change so drastically. She felt secure when she had us. She agrees that even she would think differently in any frame time of post-Soviet society
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I'm from the Philippines, one of the Asian countries cited as still growing. My father had 12 siblings, and his father had 11. Looking at the family sizes of my dad and his siblings, from eldest to youngest: they had 8, 6, 7, 5, 4, 4, 0 (died in infancy), 4, 3, 3 (two adopted), 2 (one adopted), 4, 3. The next generation all seem to have 0, 1 or 2 kids.
The natural reproduction rate in the Philippines has fallen well below 2.1 in the last decade or so, but because our population pyramid still has a wide base, our national population to projected to keep growing until the 2070s or so, and then start declining relatively slowly. These outcomes are very different from our neighbors in Southeast Asia (where the demographic transition started earlier and has been generally faster) and to our north in East Asia. Catholic culture and doctrine, and restricted availability of contraception until a few decades ago, probably were a factor in our slower transition.
It's the same in India. It's a large population but people are barely having children, only 1 if at all that too from CERTAIN SPECIFIC states and not all. Many states have a fertility rate of 1.2 or 0.4 even in India.
Young women now have realized that they don't want to go through the mind numbing drudgery of childrearing ike their mothers went through. Nothing glamorous about teaching junior how to survive in a dying world. Livin' n' lovin' the childfree life.
Ask your self who was responsible for birthing and taking care of those 12 children .... It seems having insane amounts of children is difficult when women no longer want to participante in being free slave labor
I have seen stats that the Philippines is at or below replacement birthrates
I had my daughter in 2016, and told my husband that I wouldn't have another until we had a house to put them in. I live in Ireland.
No living wage for many, no where to raise a family.
What if people just don't like children?
They will die out in a generation. People alive are the result of their ancestors.
I don't trust people that don't like children. I mean I get not wanting to raise a child but people that just hate the sight of kids in any capacity and have little empathy for them are just messed up imo
It's mostly people, who have kids, abuse other people's kids sexually, physically and emotionally.
Very rarely you see a single or bachelor with no kids abuse others.
By the same token, mostly married men with kids are more selfish than unmarried ones with no kids.
@keifer7813 not really what I was getting at, You don't have to actively hate something to simply just not like it or be a part of it !
@HarleyButler-ox3qn I know but there is definitely a contingent of childfree people (and I'm childfree myself) who actually despise kids and call them all sorts of horrible things. I think those people are awful. I may have jumped the gun a bit on your comment lol my bad
1. Have you seen the news lately? Who wants to have kids amid all this chaos?
2. Have you seen prices lately? It costs more than ever to raise a kid these days.
3. Have you seen kids lately? The workforce is already inundated with upcoming generations who don't wanna work for a living.
4. Children are an unattainable luxury item for most young Americans I know these days, a luxury item with failing investment payoffs. All we're doing by having kids is making more consumers in a world already dying of consumerism. It's almost inhumane to even consider having kids in this global economy. There are more than enough kids without parents that modern citizens can fulfill parenting urges by fostering and adoption instead of making more problems for everyone. It's incredibly self-aggrandizing to think you're making anything better by spreading your genes in today's world.
No life = no suffering
@@CO2Emitter9999 It's also more dangerous than ever to get pregnant in many US states since the overturning of Roe. Pregnancy and giving birth are far more dangerous than neither of those things, especially when one can't get medical care if anything goes wrong.
They didn't really cover fertility this was more about birth rate decline and what some countries are doing to mitigate... Fertility is a whole other podcast and we need to look at the affect of plastics, forever chemicals, ideological agendas in our ecosystem and why 'fertility' rates drop. Even in my husband's immediate circle of friends only 2 out of 5 very close friends are able to have children: 1 has near zero sperm count, 1 married quite late and wife is unable to have kids, 1 couple struggles with mental health and doesn't want the responsibility of having kids. Can just about look after themselves.
the main reason for decline in fertility is porn and fast food.
Omg tf you saying .
You’re correct. Studies have been done on sperm counts and viability, they are down 50% in the last 50 years and still are dropping. This is seldom mentioned when birth rates are discussed.
I know a good number of women (in their 20s) who have had trouble getting pregnant due to a variety of health issues.
@@Goshawk-zh2pta lot of fat American and western woman out there!
No one in their right mind would choose to bring a child into this insane, dictator led world. The future looks bleak to me with healthcare, education, and the legal system in many countries, in tatters. Housing is beyond most of us, and the power weilded by landlords and property agencies destroys mental health as tenants live in constant fear of homelessness. Dont inflict this on innocent children.
Not mentioning the fact that previous generation was very immature when they started having kids, then acted selfishly and traumatized their children. Now their children don't have children out of duty but put more thought into it.
Well, that is a defeatist, dangerous nihilistic approach which risks leading the human race to extinction. We could take a different approach and say that children are our only hope of changing the world for the better and changing the system, because only a new generation can make a change for the better.
@@tentimetex most of us were taught in school about overpopulation and how it's manufacturing poverty, slavery, and violence around the world which lead to ge*ocide and mass mu*der anyways over material things like territories and resources. If someone has 3 wives and 7 kids and can't afford anything at all but refuses to get a vasectomy or condom they're really stupid. So stupid in fact I've seen documentaries where families actually consider SELLING THEIR CHILDREN. We live in a sick world. A lot of children were told to keep their trauma to themselves. Well these children are grown up now and know what's up.
@@kalayne6713 I agree and UA-cam is hiding my reply for some reason to tentimetix but basically all those children who went through trauma and were told to keep quiet know what's up and aren't participating blindly because they don't want to repeat the same mistakes as their parents.
@@tentimetexsay that to boomer first and ask them to pull up their freaking ladder
Ultimately, the problem that the politicians (who want their beloved GDP growth to be eternal), and CEO's of the largest companies (who want ever increasing profits) have, is that we working class people simply don't care about this issue at all. Fewer people sounds fantastic, and not having a kid saves me a FORTUNE in an ever expensive world.
It doesn't take a genius to realise that the boomer generation could support an entire family from one job, whereas Gen Z would be lucky to afford a single child on a combined income. I fully support anyone not having kids for economic reasons - we don't owe our country a single kid, nevermind multiple.
That's fine if you are not expecting the children who Are born to fund your retirement. By not having children your values won't survive the next generation. The future will be religious, conservative and iliberal. Because these are the children who are being born in large numbers. Gen A are religious and conservative.
Add to that those that were having kids in 90s and 00s were stigmatized as benefit scroungers. Its laughable my 3 mates only 2 have had 1 kid each and there stories of child care costs have put me off. Also they both suffer from anxiety now a massive difference from them 5 years ago.
@errolneptune3995 I feel you on the benefits scroungers comment - my two sisters both had children young in the early 2000's, (16 and 18) and they definitely felt demonised for it - particularly in national newspapers. Fast forward to today, and the same newspapers cry about the birth rate being low...
The cost is a huge factor too. I would happily have a child myself, but not at the expense of having to sacrifice the majority of life's luxuries.
Do we really have to ask this question? I mean the problems we have nowadays to just survive are too much for younger generations to get born comfortably, and we have to sit there, and do nothing but discuss ? Like what change is it gonna make?
Problem is very scewed demographics give unstable situations and unstable situations don't solve climate change.
As a woman I feel it’s just not worth being a mother, the amount of women that get financially abused by being dependent on men is so scary
Dependency on each other - that’s what makes a family a family 😊
This is why women should be financially independent of men. This is what I live and teach my daughter.
Correct. And also if women is working, still she has to take care of the children and also do the chores.
@@volkerr. Say that to a dude
I agree with this
Both people work 40 hours a week now. We went to college instead of starting families. Very expensive, pediatricians are nasty to parents, our food is horrible in the US, there is no path here anymore for anyone, and teachers want more involvement from parents every year on top of our own jobs those are my reasons for not having a second.
In Australia we moved to a rural town, life became much better.
city life is not great idea to make family, should go back to basic, like a farmer.
The best video on this issue I have seen. Not alarmist but covering the topic very broadly. Thanks
It's good that mainstream media are begining to address this issue at last because it's been almost totally ignored until now. In the recent past, when the issue's been raised by famous public commentators like Musk, they've been laughed at as if they're some sort of misogynistic freakshow.
The world's population has tripled since WW2 and our Earth is NOT coping with human consumption and waste. The idea that population growth can continue forever, is absurd.
Believe me, their are alot of people in this world that think population growth can be infinite with no ill affects to this world.
Poor and worsening living standards and less people in relationships are the main reasons.
Before anyone mentions birth rates being high in countries with extreme poverty, you'll also see that access to education is very poor in those countries. Educated people know that having children will drastically worsen their standard of living, while uneducated people often just see having children as a fact of life. Also families in poor countries tend to send their children to work when they're young so they start bringing in money for their family instead of being dependents. Educated people know that children need time and support until they get a good education to have a good chance at life, so supporting children into their early 20s, potentially later with our economy, is part of people's calculation in developed countries.
I blame neoliberal capitalism and the fact that after 100 years we are still working 8 hours a day five days a week.
You can also blame neo-liberal capitalism for lower poverty rates, longer life expectancy, higher literacy rates etc.
"neoliberal capitalism" has lifted the masses out of poverty. The fertility crisis would be far worse. With the masses in poverty.
I blame the ccps one child policy. That's caused a massive population drop without capitalism.
Neo-liberal Capitalism fights every nickel, dime, reduced work hours, worker right, paid leave, paid sick leave, workplace occupational health & safety regulation, industry pay rise, and equal right there is or will ever be.
Nothing but greed driven, entitled narcissists with a bottomless satisfaction reach.
Never fear. You won't be working when AI takes your job.
Considering the world is currently over-populated this should be seen as a positive sign. Sure, the global economy will shrink, but I think we should consider the long term benefits over the short term economic decline.
If it shrinks to fast societies get unstable and unstable societies can't solve climate change
You do not understand the problem. You will have many pensioners supported by a smaller, ever-shrinking population of working age people.
This means a fall in productivity, greater taxes, much higher inflation and a prolonged era of Global Depression.
Not the sharpest tool are you??
Shrinking population will shrink the economy and send people below the poverty level and the standard of living will go down.
Economy has to be continuously fed. It cannot sustain by itself
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No, house prices will collapse. But taxes on working aged people will rise to gigantic levels. Even then, those taxes will be insufficient to give the elderly a decent pension.
Those people who adopt the DINKS (Double Income No Kids) lifestyle are not cheating the system. What they are doing is running an enormous Ponzi Scheme. All the money that they are now saving by not having babies, will have to be paid back when these people become pensioners.
Because Rent is too damn high! Groceries are too damn high, getting a vehicle costs as much as a house did not 4 years ago. It's maddening
I can't afford my future, or maintain a quality of life as a family of one, but how can I expect to do that with a child, and I have no clue even what my partner would be like, they can leave and die. All these are too risky.
Less money/pay/incentives for parents. More working time. Disparity between rich and poor. etc.
Jonathan Jacob Meijer has 3 thousand kids 🌍
A smaller population is required for ecological balance. We need to adjust to this. Increasing population is unsustainable -- causes considerable hardship such as competition for resources, space, food, water, & carbon dioxide, pollution, loss of the natural world & expensive housing.
Finally someone who doesn't only say " this generation just want an easy life and is too lazy"
Because housing, food, education, clothes... Everything is freaking expensive. Next!
No. People can afford to have children. They just don't want to.
@@parcomolo256to have children you might have to give up evenings out, lattes, and that new Coach purse.
I don't want to have a child because I'm still stuggling with living like a person. And being a parent is something that requires much more.
I struggle with living like a person, but I have a 1-year-old daughter. For me, life is hard with or without the kids. Her presence gives me strength and comfort. I can dedicate myself to doing my best for her. It might not be the same for you. Still, I wish you happiness.
@Honeybadger127-g3r thank you. and i wish you and your daughter will all be healthy and happy for your whole life.
I don't think it's a bad thing that people have less children, it's better for the world, less poverty, less pollution less strain on mineral resources and many other things. People are looking at the negative but not looking at the positive of it. When on door closes another door opens!
Do you not want to be taken care of when you are old? Who will pay taxes in the future?
No kids, no future, backwards countries will takeover and world will turn to shit again and the cycle will start again.
On the whole, I see nothing bad about having less people on the planet; especially those who contribute nothing, and consume everything...
Well those who have kids contribute more in the long term. Even if there is no money for their education , they’ll be the ones who clean and nurse
@@annarold1709at the cost of their suffering, how selfish
Sounds like Canada.
We are broke and the earth is dying
The cost of living in Norway is high, but it is becoming more acceptable and normal not to have children by choice. This can be applied to many developed countries.
A lower fertility rate is an inevitable function of an industrialised urban economy.
So what's the problem? There are too many people on the planet anyways. Less people means less pollution
It means less people in the workforce and less money going into the welfare programs that you no doubt are a fan of. Cats and dogs don’t pay into those programs.
latrinemarine.....our economic system will break down anyway ( in the next 20 - 30 years )!..... automatisation and AI will make more and more Jobs unnecessary ....and due to global heating (caused by overpopulation) there will be way less farming areas ( or even space to live) ......so, as less people get born as less have to starve in the future! !
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@@latrinemarine826 old people go sooner or later so that's okay I guess.
stop the cap
One middle class income (two adults) can support a family but you have to say "no" to a lot of purchases that are common and withstand the pressure of keeping up with your neighbors. Is there a generation still alive that is willing to do without?
Here’s what I believe: (1) Fix Earth, Not Mars: If Elon Musk and the top 1% focused on world peace and healing this planet, people might actually feel hopeful enough to bring more children into the world. (2) Real Support for female: Parenting shouldn’t feel like a financial cliff. Imagine a universal income that truly supports women (whether they have a partner or not) for 18 years, enough to make raising a child with little risk even alone. (3) Bring Back Connection: Our society is drowning in oversexualization. We have a derailed masculine culture vs a population of stronger and more conscious women. We’ve lost sight of true human connection, and it’s destroying relationships. It’s time to shift the focus back to kindness, love, and real values in all areas of educational programs and communications.
this is the best comment i have read in this!!! couldnt agree more, a very societal and realistic portrait
I'm in Canada, originally from Afghanistan. Some Afghan refugees I know (came here recently) find work without even speaking proper English and support families of 10 to 15 with it. Here's how, Two or three brothers rent a big house together, one of them covers the rent with their salary, the other one supports daily expenses, and the third one saves the money in case the family needs it for emergency situations. Their wives, because they don't have much else to do, organize parties, cook food that will truly amaze you, and keep the house so well that it looks like a palace inside. All the children, women, men are extremely happy, nobody is depressed, house is full of love and energy.
And then you see a dude outside with 2 dogs complaining about economy!
The afghans are happy they got out of afghanistan and can breath in peace now, their daughters can study and they can be warm and have food.
I am an anomaly. I am 40, pregnant now and have one child. In the USA. I am terrified as women's Healthcare, and Healthcare in general is horrid and getting worse with the new regime. I may lose all my Healthcare by 2026. There is a growth in crime related to identity and the government only cares about improving the lives of Christians, and extremist evangelical Christians are the ones who are procreating and they want to push their ideology and religion on every aspect of education and government. It's terrifying.
The politicians now in control are highly xenophobic and truly seem to make to want immigrants suffer.
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Having a baby in the USA can leave you $20,000 in debt and you haven’t even bought a diaper yet. They make it way.
Politics aside, having baby at 40 comes with huge healthcare cost. Makesure you have a really good health insurance. Pls 🙏
Omg… please relax …
Wait until the evangelicals find out that there's no Sky Fairy - the Orange One might decide to open up all the classified UFO files.
It’s a sign intelligence is starting to emerge
Toxic household chemicals, detergents, fabric conditioners & body products like shampoos etc are hormone disrupters as are micro plastics. They can also cause cancer and neurological disorders. So some of it will be infertility caused by that.
Why would I put a new life on this earth? All we do is work to eat and live somewhere, maybe to afford something fun in a while. I can't afford a child and there's no good future ahead for children. Fascism and wars are coming.
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Typical Leftist Nihilistic Claptrap..
How is fascism coming?
The fact that we need to work down to the bone to just survive, forget bringing children to the world to look after... Two income households aren't just the norm, it's a must to survive
If you can't afford to have one child in full daycare while you work then don't expect people to have children. I don't take a loan out knowing I can't pay it.
Also remember that many people see having children as negative impact on their lives now rather than a positive.
Who wants to bring children into a world facing a climate crisis that threatens to close the corridor of life and voters increasingly electing climate-denying far-right extremists? As long as the focus is not on preserving life here on Earth, it is compassionate not to subject one’s children to what lies ahead.
The cost of living crisis is the cost of renting/cost of mortgage crisis - if you make it affordable for people to put a roof over their head then they might be more likely to have children. Government doesn't do anything to address the immorality of treating property as an investable asset, because half of MP's are landlords - ironically the same people wonder why they can't achieve economic growth when landlords basically pocket the wages of people who actually contribute to the economy.