@Balance of The hill He is talking about Voldemort being pureblood pride when his father is muggle and Lestrange's pureblood pride when they potentially come from squibs through muggles before getting back into magic families
Na. If you reread them enough u really start seeing things that really makes u think. I've got tons that they haven't covered. Witch I'd like to share with them.
It's worth noting that a lot of Native Americans have French surnames. Dubois, Pappan, Lafayette, etc because of the influence of French fur traders in the 1600-1800s. I dated someone for awhile who was Omaha Nation, and his last name was French for the same reason. This actually supports your theory a lot.
It really does! We see how bitter Petunia was when she couldn't follow Lily to Hogwarts. It's not too much of a leap of logic to think that Barebones has the same feelings.
also- in french when you say "le/la (noun)", if the noun starts with a vowel (like estranged) then you merge the words. So this would mean that you would say L'estrange instead of Le Estrange.
@@TianaCorin Its quite easy to know why they are named like these. Purebloods are old wizarding families and we know (Thanks to the beedle the bard book) That in the middle ages the old pureblood/wizard families were ostracized by the muggles. Im mostly certain that in the distant past the lestrange family members were called "Les étranges" (the weird ones) by the people and after time it became "Lestrange" just how we know that the POTTER surname was created because of a corruption of the word potterer (Linfred of Stinchcombe was nicknamed potterer and after time the family surname was potter)
Also was going to comment but saw this! It's also interesting to point out that "estrange" in French means strange/weird which still fits the theme of them being outsiders.
I would argue that there were magicals in the LeStrange family for 2 generations prior to Corvus and Cyril but they are shown as the start because, if I recall, "pureblood" is considered at least 2 previous generations were magical. Thus, Corvus and Cyril would have then been the first "purebloods" in that family after losing the status by being descended from squibs. Additionally, as Martha was a squib, it would explain the lack of Parseltongue ability as it is a magical ability that I would doubt you would pass along if you yourself are not magical.
Who’s to say Corvus and Cyril didn’t just start lying about their pure bloodedness. As for rules, that go back to 2 generations prior, we have seen through HP books that people can just lie about their blood status so perhaps the Le’stanges just started lying about their blood status and continued marrying other ‘pure bloods to keep it going
Wouldn't you still be pureblood if you came from two fully magical families? Think about it: a squib might not be able to do magic, but Martha would still be a half-blood and we're only told that the ASSUMPTION is that squibs have a muggle parent. So her grandkids could technically be purebloods even if they're all squibs, it'd just be an embarrassing thing to talk about. Also remember, Neville's family thought he was a squib and we know both of his parents were magical, which means you don't need muggle blood to BE a squib.
@@nightleopard13 unless magical ability gets passed down through genes then you would need your squib or muggle parents to at least have the carrier genes. like hermionie's parents could be carrier but as far as I know, JK never fully explained how magical abilities pop up amongst squibs or muggle borns. SCB should do a theory video on this
@@a.r11384 I agree. I suspect it's genetic due to Newt Scamander's comment to Jacob about how Jacob's muggle physiology makes him more prone to physical damage. (Also diseases don't appear to pass between muggles and wizarding kind; plus both have completely separate genetic conditions) This implies magical beings (wizards/witches) are a distinct subspecies to humans and that speciation was prevented by a reoccurence of interbreeding due to wizarding kinds general lack of fecundity. Meaning, wizard's produce less children resulting in bloodlines dying off and thus a smaller genetic pool. So, they breed with muggles to prevent "Gaunts". *sorry I have a MA in biological anthropology, so I study genetics/evolution for fun.
I like this better because, usually I can follow most if not all of SCB's theories but not having magical kids for a century? That seems like a long time, even if it could be 2-3 generations. I just feel like the odds, if there is any, is much higher for two magical parents starting out, even if they are squibs (i believe they have the carrier genes btw no proof but yeah)
Don’t think the magical genes in squibs are that studied… fits the big picture of how they’re neglected by the wizarding population and how not advanced wizarding science is.
Actually the thing of magic "genes" aren't studied at all, i mean, in the books is presented like there is no such thing and any pair of muggles can just give birth to a wizard just like 2 wizards can give birth a squib, but maybe there's more than that.
Isn’t the idea that for squibs the magic genes are there just turned off (likely due to epigenetics), so all muggle borns are descendants of wizards just a mutation occurred that reactivated the magic genes.
@@SJ-wk7js Well, the way genes like that work is not mutation, but two genes meeting again. Say if you look at people who have very rare genetic conditions, such as dwarfism. What happens is that the the two people who have met and reproduced are in fact related. Usually it's not close, and many people are not aware of it, but just imagine that a couple have the same great, great, great, great grandmother, quite a distantly removed relative, and the dormant gene then gets two copies which make it a dominant gene. So most muggleborns would very likely have a squib ancestor, possibly the same ancestor in some cases, and the gene resurfaces and you end up with a wizard.
It's interesting how Bellatrix differs from her sisters and marries for status and wealth rather than love while they marry for love and are happier. True Andromeda is cast out for marrying a Muggle born and Narcissa marries a Death Eater, but they are still happy with their choices while Bellatrix is in a loveless marriage and pines for Lord Voldemort, a man who can't love
Didn't her father force to her to get married on threat of disownment as her antics and decent into psychosis was bringing shame to "The Most Ancient and Noble House of Black".
@@harryjester282 It’s possible considering their family’s obsession with blood purity but I think she also felt obligated to follow her family’s example. As an adult we do see her fixation and dedication with and to blood purity and power. It might have resulted from her upbringing but I think she chose her path
I read somewhere, and I'm sure it was canon material, that Bellatrix married Rodolphus because she was supposed to. Not for wealth or power, but to make the pure-blood marriage that was required of her. They didn't hate each other, they were a good team and good friends but that's all it ever was. She was probably expected to have children to further the blood line but who knows why she didn't. Maybe she had fertility issues or maybe her a Rodolphus never consummated their marriage. Maybe they were just too busy serving Voldemort to get pregnant, then they both got thrown in Azkaban. Who knows.
If Martha married another squib then they are more likely to produce a magical child. However if the reason for the squibdom has a magical cause to it then the magic gene will continue to remain recessive, however it will make sure that it is passed on, until the magical cause has run its course, so that it can then become dominant again. Although the same thing may happen if the reason for the squibdom is from anomalies associated with inbreeding. I think you should make a series of videos about genetics in the magical world.
Like lily Potter hence why her parents was excited she got into hogwarts . They knew they was of magical/ squib ancestry. They was just waiting for the magic to come back into the bloodline
Well there is a bit more to the distinction of crows and ravens than size. Ravens tent to be larger yes but also have fan shaped tails as opposed to crows that are typically more flat tipped. Ravens are also capable of unpowered flight or gliding/souring at least much more easily than crows which have to use powered flight to stay airborne. That is crows have more trouble flying if they arent also flapping. Relative beak size, throat plumage. Very similar birds but distinct. More or less differences depending on the specific corvid species
All I can say is that i never knew there was a distinction because I'm my mother tongue, spanish, both words are translated to Cuervo, until now i thinked it was just different interchangable ways to say it.
I think JKR was using Corvus as a mode of identifying the species rather than indicating "crow" and "raven" as interchangeable words. It would be somewhat similar to naming someone "Blackbird: and then having any number of black bird to describe such a name.
Yeah, I definitely cringed when he read off that bad information. There are several more distinctions between the species. That's why they ARE different species. Otherwise they wouldn't be.
It feels like a jump but also like kinda plausible. The pureblood supremacy coming from paranoia about the loss of magic in the bloodline again also makes sense (terrible don't get me wrong but like kinda checks out) ya'll are impressive with how you still manage to keep finding theories at this point. Love it
Hi. May I add something to the theory? “Lestrange” as a last name has as possible etymology in “les etrangers”, that means “the foreigners” in french. As the misterious family nobody really knew nothing about and came overseas.
Just as a side note: The name is pronounced "le-strange" as in "strange", and there is nothing French about it any longer. The name Lestrange has been in Britain since the time of the Norman Conquest (1066). If it were modern French, it would be Létrange. The middle -s- has not been written since the 16th century in France and had not been pronounced for even longer, but the -s- remained in the English name.
Very good point, however seeing as the authoress is of British decent she would use the British spelling. Although she is so good at researching her work....still things are about to slip through.
@@maryjoyspohrer256 Could have also been an US government citizen official butchering the name and they stuck with it. That's how you get a bunch of different spellings of last names here in the US. People who would take names from immigrants and those who spoke different languages for registration of legal documents would often misspell names; or even someone trying to get away from their family might change it slightly or entirely.
Wasn't the Lestrange family said to be very old and powerful? And that explains them having a vault so deep inside gringots. If this theory is true, that would probably make the Lestrange family one the youngest of all the pure-blood families. Just 300-400 yr old. The Malfoy family goes back almost a 1000 yrs. I had high hopes from the Lestrange family. Thought they would go back 1000s of years, which would explain why every Lestrange is filthy rich.
I'm not sure the "oldness" of a family is more than a simple pissing contest. Wizards with knowledge of the Muggle world have an insane potential of gain huge fortunes. Something the founders of the Lestrange family certainly would have, based on this theory. Just like the Malfoys gained a lot in the past by hanging around Muggles. Not to mention, proving them wrong once their name was established, would be pretty hard.
You're right. I'm sorry but these guys are WAY off on this one. The magical world would have been recording their lineage which is why they made the Sacred 28. No upstarts that just decalred that they were "{iure Bloods' would have made the list. No, the answer is simple, Rowling didn't feel it was necessary to go back further than Corvus/Cyril. Just look at the Black family tree and others. They don't strecth back that far. The sad part is how these guys are just GUESSING and grasping at straws sometimes, but their audience members take it as FACT, when it's just entertainment.
They’re newer in England. They’re originally from France (that have a massive vault in Paris) bellatrix’ vault is from the blacks not the Lestranges. She’s only a Lestrange by marriage.
@@AshBash1824 No the vault we see in the 7th movie, the one guarded by a Dragon is actually a Lestrange Vault, because before being Bellatrix’s vault, it was her husband’s vault, Rodolphus Lestrange
Just a little FYI from a retired teacher: the French & Indian War wasn't fought by Americans. It was between the French and the English and ran from 1754 to 1763. The Revolution didn't start til 1775. The French were outnumbered by the English and not Americans.
@@lukaseldenrust2637 the French did help us Americans during the Revolution. If not for the French navy, the Revolution could've dragged on for several more years.
Also, the French and Indian War is a part of an even larger Euro-Indian conflict known as the Seven Years War, and France had her hands full with that as well.
The biggest flaw with this theory is that "estranged", translated to French, is "éloingé". If they were going to Frankify their name, they more likely would have picked Leloinge, or something similar.
I was thinking that too. Same goes for the canon etymology of it being “le strange,” when strange in French is “etrange”. One way it could work though, would be if they took up Estrange as the last name while in the Americas. Then when they went back to France, or interacting with the French in the Americas, were referenced to as a family as “the Estranges” -> la famille Estrange / L’Estranges. The latter grammatically is incorrect, I think, but I’ve seen more odd etymology sequences
@@if0nly étrange was spelt "estrange" before in French :) the "es" often became an E with an accent (é, è or ê) so "L'estrange" means l'étrange or l'étranger in today's French, the weird/odd or the stranger/foreigner. Both could work in that case.
@OriginalIPMan You meant "éloigné", I guess... because "éloingé" doesn't exist in French. And no, it doesn't mean "estranged". The term you picked is only used in a sense that comes close to estrangement when used in verbal form. As in "s'éloigner de sa famille ". When people become estranged from one another the wording used would be something like "ils sont comme des étrangers à présent " or "ils se comportent comme des étrangers ".
So we're throwing Heir of Slytherin at every character now? You are a heir of Slythrin! You too can be a heir of Slytherin! Everyone is a heir of Slytherin!
Thing is, after a thousand years or so, there's going to be quite a few of them. For all we know, Harry himself might _actually_ be one, and not even know it
Hey Brothers, always great to hear your theories. This theory of Dumbledore's half-brother turning into a phoenix has a hole. Kendra is not a Dumbledore. She is a muggle-born who marries Dumbledore's father. Therefore, a son of Kendra with Corvus would not have Dumbledore's blood. I like the homunculus theory better!!!
Game of thrones has really fizzeled out due to the poor last seasons. Emergency awesome did/does awesome marvel/dc/rick and morty/game of thrones videos so i would reconmend him
The family tree in the second Fantastic Beasts movie could be just that section of the Lestrange family that resides in France there could be another family tree that's out in Europe somewhere that has different and more people.
CoG is one of my favourite films in the HP universe. It is very convuluted, but the vibe of the film is so cool. I think alot of people forget that it's part 2 in a 5 part series. It's not gonna be a great standalone or have a difinitive beginning, middle and end.
Just discovered this channel about a month ago, after I started reading Goblet of Fire again. I've now read all of them and have restarted The Sorcerer's (Philosopher's) Stone. You guys reignited my love for Harry Potter and got me through my four day train ride, I thank you
2:06 I use a *_bidet_* for this. Yup. 7:08 Simple; new self-identity. REALLY SIMPLE. 11:32 Eloping. Wait, that's for when two people form a loving union and do so without letting their other loves ones know. Hm. As plausible as it sounds, I am not sure; is there any way of knowing/discovering the origins of the two siblings, or is their origins as obscure as the fate of the *_Champion of Cyrodiil?_*
Aurelias is Latin and seems to mean golden, there is a flower named after it, which is bright golden yellow. Dumbledore is an old English name for bumblebee, which is also yellow with black stripes.
If you listen to the audiobooks read by Jim Dale, he pronounces Lestrange the way that Jay does. It’s very weird to hear after watching the movies so often where they pronounce Lestrange differently. Just like how the t in Voldemort is supposed to be silent because it’s french (and is said that way in the audiobooks), but they added the t on in the movies.
The thought that any credit to the lestrange family almost reinforces Voldemort having a daughter with bellatrix in Cursed Child sort of shakes my bones.
This! Plenty of wealthy families in the UK today can still have their lineage (and wealth) traced back to the Norman conquest. Royal families can get into the Saxon period if I remember correctly. I can't imagine the same would not be true in the wizarding world.
Also the huge glaring hole is leta was pulling her volume from a huge book case, one that came her way when she said her last name. So there were other volumes, we didn't see the inside of them.
You have to check sources. The HP wiki includes junk made up for the LEGO games, the mobile games, and all kinds of other nonsense and doesn't mark it well nor keep it separate.
I think the estrange Le Strange step a bit of a leap but the rest seems to fit together really neatly idk if the years match up tho you didn't really specify any dates except about when the lestrange bloodline started
You’re looking for a significant historical magical event close to 1729 and the founding of Ilvermorny in 1627 is close to you?? That’s 102 year difference.
Umm. There definitely are physical differences between Crows and Ravens other than their size. They're of the same genus, but not the same species. It's like saying that zebra's and horses are the same thing. Their wing feathers are different, their tails are different, their neck feathers are different, their beaks and beak feathers are different. They make vastly different noises. Crows are generally found in large packs while Ravens are typically only found in packs of 3-4.
The Lestrange Family crest is a crow, which is also a raven, because their ancestor can turn into one. The Ravenclaw mascot is an eagle, which is also a… bird… because… ducks go in cups! Nailed it! 😂
Yay for more wizarding world content. shang chi and the legend of the ten rings isn’t available to watch where i live so i couldn’t see the previous few videos.
I’ve been binge watching these videos (harry potter specifically) for a few days now and I just want to say thank you, and I’m trying to remember to like every single one I watch but I’m also high and eating cereal. You guys seriously rock.
I would love to see your guys take on the concept of Harry Potter characters as Greek mythological figures and who would be who based off attributes. Don’t know if you guys would dig that but I just wanted to put it out in the universe!
I really like how this theory sounds! But I’m still unsure about the parseltongue heritance thing. If the ability jumps the only other magical child of Isolt Syre because she is a squib, how do we know how it passes on. For all we know it could be in the blood…just activated by the magical ability. So therefore I would say all the magical Lestranges could or should be able to speak parseltongue, but they don’t. I mean yes your theory would explain the lack of the ability, but we need more information of the inheritance of the ability to say for sure.
love your videos and theories always excited to watch them! But I'm struggling with this one, so legend in the Dumbledore family is that a Phoenix will come, or your suggesting Dumbledores turn into them, and the baby is Dumbledores half brother, the Dumbledore legend comes from his fathers side not his mothers, his mother married into the Dumbledores and wouldn't be able to pass on the trait??? was this explained or did i miss it?
So based on this idea is it possible that the Lestrange's and Kendra are connected since she has been described as having native American descendant features?
Probably cause of the wars (grindelwald's war,first and second wizarding war) an seven before/after this probably cause the wizarding world is very dangerous like dragons and other dangerous magiacal animals and a lot dangerous spells you can hitten with and dangerous objects that can kill you
Would also add credence (pun 100% intended) to Hagrid's statement that every Wizarding family is factually "Half-blood or less," considering Isolt's husband's no-Maj status.
Love this theory, you guys killed it as usual. I’m worried that none of the plots in the fantastic beast movies will come close to this kind of deep cut fan lore
I've been LOLLing for 5 solid minutes imagining Martha Stewart doing a show on "Today, I will show you how to start a new bloodline with things you have at home, but first, we will create a cornucopia centerpiece"
Interesting theory. Perhaps when the Fantastic Beasts movies finish we'll know more. I've thought the LeStrange Family came from France possibly with the Malfoys and William the Conquerer. They seem more varied. Leta is very different from Rodolphus. Many of them were darker than the Malfoys.
You guys are basically the Mattpat of harry potter: you make tons of videos about them and yet can still find new things to theorize and discuss about. Keep doing an awesome job!!👍
My paternal family tree has a roadblock where we can't tie into anything because the paper trail somehow got destroyed in the 1600's and no parents are listed for one of our ancestors
Just to clear up your history, the French fought against the British during the F&I War, not the Americans (colonists). They were used by the British to fight against the French
Going further back to the 12th and 13th Century, you can find a Lestrange beheading, in battle, the Last King of Wales, a Llwellyn...whom you might remember from a Ward in St Mungo's... The circumstances in history, and stories/legends from then, about Llwellyn and Lestrange, hint at wizardry. Llwellyn is in my family line, thus my study. Was very shocked to see Lestrange impacting my family history. Lestrange ended the Royalty of Wales.
13:20 During the pandemic, I took up bird watching. So I have a lot to say about the differences between crows and ravens. But as any Game of Thrones fans know, it's very common for authors to not distinguish between crows and ravens. Tldr there's a difference between crows and ravens but nobody cares.
I decided to look up a timeline of happengs IRL that could be a reason for the info before that time. I kid you not 1729 - 1735 Charles Wesley and John Wesley (one letter off but close enough for a Dyslexic) began the Methodism movement in England. While it's got nothing to do with the fictional Wesley's from the pottervers it's such an odd connection when I'm looking up stuff that could have effected the wizarding world in that year.
@@paulschacht9777 Albus essentially says "legend has it that a phoenix comes to a Dumbledore in need" but it wouldn't really be a legend if she brought that trait to the family
I have another video idea that goes with all this "Heir of Slytherin" stuff. How did the Slytherin line (Gaunts) make their gold? Dumbledore said they had once been wealthy until they squandered it. Did they inherit money or did their use their parseltongue gift to sell snake parts(scales, venom/antivenom, fangs) for profit? Must be easy to get your hands on that stuff if you can speak to snakes.
Completely unrelated to the theory (though NGL this is definitely one of my favorite ones for how plausible it is)- I love your shirt and have been looking for one like it! Where the heck did you find it?!
If you have a look at some of the characters wands and see what they are made of then you look at the description of the wand woods and cores. Doesn’t it make you question why that wand chose that specific witch or wizard or in simpler terms did the wand choose the right witch or wizard and is there another wand that is an even better pair for that witch or wizard
Heir and descendant are not synonymous. Descendants are the blood relatives that come after you through the direct line. An heir is merely the person who inherits your stuff. An heir doesn't even have to be related to you, or even a person. If you leave your estate to charity, the charity becomes your heir. Voldemort isn't Slytherin's heir because of the bloodline. He's the heir because he inherited his ability to speak parseltongue and his mission to get rid of Muggle-borns.
The Hypocrisy though.. 😂
Supercarlinbrothers, big question, CAN WE GET A THEORY ON THE END OF LOKI!!!! PLEASE!!!!
@@colesclips2956 oooooo yes
@@colesclips2956 yes!!!!!!
@Balance of The hill He is talking about Voldemort being pureblood pride when his father is muggle and Lestrange's pureblood pride when they potentially come from squibs through muggles before getting back into magic families
This sounds more like evidence that Kwalski likely has magical blood
Still impressed how you guys can still make Harry Potter theories after all the ones you have already done
Honestly me too 😅
Na. If you reread them enough u really start seeing things that really makes u think. I've got tons that they haven't covered. Witch I'd like to share with them.
@@charleswhisler59 Please do!
@@leshawnjames3585 idk how to get in contact 😆
@@charleswhisler59 you might need to be on the patreon or maybe you can find their email somewhere?
Someone: **has a mysterious background**
J and Ben: I diagnose you with Heir of Slytherin
It's worth noting that a lot of Native Americans have French surnames. Dubois, Pappan, Lafayette, etc because of the influence of French fur traders in the 1600-1800s. I dated someone for awhile who was Omaha Nation, and his last name was French for the same reason. This actually supports your theory a lot.
That's really common in Vermont.
I was waiting for him to mention this, disappointed that he didn’t and that he only focused on Martha.
We are indigenous my friend and ima Cherokee surname Scott origin Scottish🤷🏽♀️
This is actually a pretty good piece of information
@@carissstewart3211 Yes, and the place Vermont sounds very French as well 🧐
My favorite part of this theory is that Marry Barebones is a squib. That makes her character and motivations/knowledge make sooooo much more sense
I always suspected she was anyway. Either a first gen squib herself, or a 2nd Gen squib who got that attitude from her parents.
"Mary-Lou Barebone".
Prejudiced people aren't all victims of their victims.
It really does! We see how bitter Petunia was when she couldn't follow Lily to Hogwarts. It's not too much of a leap of logic to think that Barebones has the same feelings.
also- in french when you say "le/la (noun)", if the noun starts with a vowel (like estranged) then you merge the words. So this would mean that you would say L'estrange instead of Le Estrange.
I was going to comment but saw this 👍🏻
I am learning French in my school
@@a.r11384 same, so the family name could have been 'estranged' but when dealing with the French and consequently moving to France the name changed.
@@TianaCorin Its quite easy to know why they are named like these. Purebloods are old wizarding families and we know (Thanks to the beedle the bard book) That in the middle ages the old pureblood/wizard families were ostracized by the muggles. Im mostly certain that in the distant past the lestrange family members were called "Les étranges" (the weird ones) by the people and after time it became "Lestrange" just how we know that the POTTER surname was created because of a corruption of the word potterer (Linfred of Stinchcombe was nicknamed potterer and after time the family surname was potter)
Also was going to comment but saw this! It's also interesting to point out that "estrange" in French means strange/weird which still fits the theme of them being outsiders.
I would argue that there were magicals in the LeStrange family for 2 generations prior to Corvus and Cyril but they are shown as the start because, if I recall, "pureblood" is considered at least 2 previous generations were magical. Thus, Corvus and Cyril would have then been the first "purebloods" in that family after losing the status by being descended from squibs. Additionally, as Martha was a squib, it would explain the lack of Parseltongue ability as it is a magical ability that I would doubt you would pass along if you yourself are not magical.
Who’s to say Corvus and Cyril didn’t just start lying about their pure bloodedness. As for rules, that go back to 2 generations prior, we have seen through HP books that people can just lie about their blood status so perhaps the Le’stanges just started lying about their blood status and continued marrying other ‘pure bloods to keep it going
Wouldn't you still be pureblood if you came from two fully magical families? Think about it: a squib might not be able to do magic, but Martha would still be a half-blood and we're only told that the ASSUMPTION is that squibs have a muggle parent. So her grandkids could technically be purebloods even if they're all squibs, it'd just be an embarrassing thing to talk about.
Also remember, Neville's family thought he was a squib and we know both of his parents were magical, which means you don't need muggle blood to BE a squib.
@@nightleopard13 unless magical ability gets passed down through genes then you would need your squib or muggle parents to at least have the carrier genes. like hermionie's parents could be carrier but as far as I know, JK never fully explained how magical abilities pop up amongst squibs or muggle borns. SCB should do a theory video on this
@@a.r11384 I agree.
I suspect it's genetic due to Newt Scamander's comment to Jacob about how Jacob's muggle physiology makes him more prone to physical damage. (Also diseases don't appear to pass between muggles and wizarding kind; plus both have completely separate genetic conditions) This implies magical beings (wizards/witches) are a distinct subspecies to humans and that speciation was prevented by a reoccurence of interbreeding due to wizarding kinds general lack of fecundity. Meaning, wizard's produce less children resulting in bloodlines dying off and thus a smaller genetic pool. So, they breed with muggles to prevent "Gaunts".
*sorry I have a MA in biological anthropology, so I study genetics/evolution for fun.
I like this better because, usually I can follow most if not all of SCB's theories but not having magical kids for a century? That seems like a long time, even if it could be 2-3 generations. I just feel like the odds, if there is any, is much higher for two magical parents starting out, even if they are squibs (i believe they have the carrier genes btw no proof but yeah)
Don’t think the magical genes in squibs are that studied… fits the big picture of how they’re neglected by the wizarding population and how not advanced wizarding science is.
Perhaps they are recessive genes or they are amagic like how some people are asymptomatic
Actually the thing of magic "genes" aren't studied at all, i mean, in the books is presented like there is no such thing and any pair of muggles can just give birth to a wizard just like 2 wizards can give birth a squib, but maybe there's more than that.
Isn’t the idea that for squibs the magic genes are there just turned off (likely due to epigenetics), so all muggle borns are descendants of wizards just a mutation occurred that reactivated the magic genes.
@@SJ-wk7js Well, the way genes like that work is not mutation, but two genes meeting again. Say if you look at people who have very rare genetic conditions, such as dwarfism. What happens is that the the two people who have met and reproduced are in fact related. Usually it's not close, and many people are not aware of it, but just imagine that a couple have the same great, great, great, great grandmother, quite a distantly removed relative, and the dormant gene then gets two copies which make it a dominant gene. So most muggleborns would very likely have a squib ancestor, possibly the same ancestor in some cases, and the gene resurfaces and you end up with a wizard.
I just love how you guys go down paths we could NEVER imagine with these things
It's interesting how Bellatrix differs from her sisters and marries for status and wealth rather than love while they marry for love and are happier. True Andromeda is cast out for marrying a Muggle born and Narcissa marries a Death Eater, but they are still happy with their choices while Bellatrix is in a loveless marriage and pines for Lord Voldemort, a man who can't love
Didn't her father force to her to get married on threat of disownment as her antics and decent into psychosis was bringing shame to "The Most Ancient and Noble House of Black".
@@harryjester282 that's part of a fan-film, but as far as we know it might even be true.
@@harryjester282 It’s possible considering their family’s obsession with blood purity but I think she also felt obligated to follow her family’s example. As an adult we do see her fixation and dedication with and to blood purity and power. It might have resulted from her upbringing but I think she chose her path
I read somewhere, and I'm sure it was canon material, that Bellatrix married Rodolphus because she was supposed to. Not for wealth or power, but to make the pure-blood marriage that was required of her. They didn't hate each other, they were a good team and good friends but that's all it ever was. She was probably expected to have children to further the blood line but who knows why she didn't. Maybe she had fertility issues or maybe her a Rodolphus never consummated their marriage. Maybe they were just too busy serving Voldemort to get pregnant, then they both got thrown in Azkaban. Who knows.
@@JuanMataCFC Which film? I want to see it now.
If Martha married another squib then they are more likely to produce a magical child. However if the reason for the squibdom has a magical cause to it then the magic gene will continue to remain recessive, however it will make sure that it is passed on, until the magical cause has run its course, so that it can then become dominant again.
Although the same thing may happen if the reason for the squibdom is from anomalies associated with inbreeding.
I think you should make a series of videos about genetics in the magical world.
Like lily Potter hence why her parents was excited she got into hogwarts . They knew they was of magical/ squib ancestry. They was just waiting for the magic to come back into the bloodline
That's an outstanding in magical history right there
Well there is a bit more to the distinction of crows and ravens than size. Ravens tent to be larger yes but also have fan shaped tails as opposed to crows that are typically more flat tipped. Ravens are also capable of unpowered flight or gliding/souring at least much more easily than crows which have to use powered flight to stay airborne. That is crows have more trouble flying if they arent also flapping. Relative beak size, throat plumage. Very similar birds but distinct. More or less differences depending on the specific corvid species
All I can say is that i never knew there was a distinction because I'm my mother tongue, spanish, both words are translated to Cuervo, until now i thinked it was just different interchangable ways to say it.
Yeah, birds adapt at a higher rate than most animals.
I think JKR was using Corvus as a mode of identifying the species rather than indicating "crow" and "raven" as interchangeable words. It would be somewhat similar to naming someone "Blackbird: and then having any number of black bird to describe such a name.
Ravens also have different vocalizations than crows, and also have larger, more hooked beaks than crows do.
Yeah, I definitely cringed when he read off that bad information. There are several more distinctions between the species. That's why they ARE different species. Otherwise they wouldn't be.
So in other words, Bellatrix Lestrange technically got with two different heirs of Slytherin. Girl's got a type I guess
YAS GO BELLA
What do you mean two? She is not Voldy's wife. Her husband was with her in prison n ot sure if he was included in the break out .
The cursed child
Its in the cursed child
@@shaved_head_cat wdym its not cannon; its a fanfic
It feels like a jump but also like kinda plausible. The pureblood supremacy coming from paranoia about the loss of magic in the bloodline again also makes sense (terrible don't get me wrong but like kinda checks out) ya'll are impressive with how you still manage to keep finding theories at this point. Love it
It makes me SUPREMELY HAPPY how you guys find a way to slip in the “Voldy Laugh”bit at every opportunity. Genuinely makes my day better. Cheers!
This is definitely a more obscure theory, but it makes a lot of sense.
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Hi. May I add something to the theory? “Lestrange” as a last name has as possible etymology in “les etrangers”, that means “the foreigners” in french. As the misterious family nobody really knew nothing about and came overseas.
Just as a side note: The name is pronounced "le-strange" as in "strange", and there is nothing French about it any longer. The name Lestrange has been in Britain since the time of the Norman Conquest (1066). If it were modern French, it would be Létrange. The middle -s- has not been written since the 16th century in France and had not been pronounced for even longer, but the -s- remained in the English name.
This is what I thought the entire time it's le strange.
Very good point, however seeing as the authoress is of British decent she would use the British spelling. Although she is so good at researching her work....still things are about to slip through.
@@maryjoyspohrer256 Could have also been an US government citizen official butchering the name and they stuck with it. That's how you get a bunch of different spellings of last names here in the US. People who would take names from immigrants and those who spoke different languages for registration of legal documents would often misspell names; or even someone trying to get away from their family might change it slightly or entirely.
One's inability to perform Magic does not take away the pure-blooded status since both of them came from magical families
i remember as a kid celebrating bellatrix's death in theatre only for my parents to immediately remind me i was in a theatre and had to be quiet
There, there... All of us aggressive fans were celebrating with you in those quiet theaters. *high five*
Wasn't the Lestrange family said to be very old and powerful? And that explains them having a vault so deep inside gringots. If this theory is true, that would probably make the Lestrange family one the youngest of all the pure-blood families. Just 300-400 yr old. The Malfoy family goes back almost a 1000 yrs. I had high hopes from the Lestrange family. Thought they would go back 1000s of years, which would explain why every Lestrange is filthy rich.
I'm not sure the "oldness" of a family is more than a simple pissing contest. Wizards with knowledge of the Muggle world have an insane potential of gain huge fortunes. Something the founders of the Lestrange family certainly would have, based on this theory. Just like the Malfoys gained a lot in the past by hanging around Muggles. Not to mention, proving them wrong once their name was established, would be pretty hard.
You're right. I'm sorry but these guys are WAY off on this one. The magical world would have been recording their lineage which is why they made the Sacred 28. No upstarts that just decalred that they were "{iure Bloods' would have made the list.
No, the answer is simple, Rowling didn't feel it was necessary to go back further than Corvus/Cyril. Just look at the Black family tree and others. They don't strecth back that far. The sad part is how these guys are just GUESSING and grasping at straws sometimes, but their audience members take it as FACT, when it's just entertainment.
They’re newer in England. They’re originally from France (that have a massive vault in Paris) bellatrix’ vault is from the blacks not the Lestranges. She’s only a Lestrange by marriage.
@@AshBash1824 No the vault we see in the 7th movie, the one guarded by a Dragon is actually a Lestrange Vault, because before being Bellatrix’s vault, it was her husband’s vault, Rodolphus Lestrange
Just a little FYI from a retired teacher: the French & Indian War wasn't fought by Americans. It was between the French and the English and ran from 1754 to 1763. The Revolution didn't start til 1775. The French were outnumbered by the English and not Americans.
Thank you! I was getting really confused but chalked it up to - I’m not American so I’m probably getting it mixed up.
@@JustMe- same, I was sure that the French helped the Americans during the revolution...
@@lukaseldenrust2637 the French did help us Americans during the Revolution. If not for the French navy, the Revolution could've dragged on for several more years.
Also, the French and Indian War is a part of an even larger Euro-Indian conflict known as the Seven Years War, and France had her hands full with that as well.
@@Sephazon I remember that. And it all seemed to coalesce into the French Revolution. It was a domino effect.
The biggest flaw with this theory is that "estranged", translated to French, is "éloingé". If they were going to Frankify their name, they more likely would have picked Leloinge, or something similar.
I was thinking that too. Same goes for the canon etymology of it being “le strange,” when strange in French is “etrange”. One way it could work though, would be if they took up Estrange as the last name while in the Americas. Then when they went back to France, or interacting with the French in the Americas, were referenced to as a family as “the Estranges” -> la famille Estrange / L’Estranges. The latter grammatically is incorrect, I think, but I’ve seen more odd etymology sequences
@@if0nly étrange was spelt "estrange" before in French :) the "es" often became an E with an accent (é, è or ê) so "L'estrange" means l'étrange or l'étranger in today's French, the weird/odd or the stranger/foreigner. Both could work in that case.
@OriginalIPMan You meant "éloigné", I guess... because "éloingé" doesn't exist in French. And no, it doesn't mean "estranged". The term you picked is only used in a sense that comes close to estrangement when used in verbal form. As in "s'éloigner de sa famille ". When people become estranged from one another the wording used would be something like "ils sont comme des étrangers à présent " or "ils se comportent comme des étrangers ".
“HEEEYYYYY BROTHERRRRR!!!” said Ben calmly.
So we're throwing Heir of Slytherin at every character now? You are a heir of Slythrin! You too can be a heir of Slytherin! Everyone is a heir of Slytherin!
I am indeed 😉
Thing is, after a thousand years or so, there's going to be quite a few of them. For all we know, Harry himself might _actually_ be one, and not even know it
Thank you, Oprah!
Supercarlinbrothers, big question, CAN WE GET A THEORY ON THE END OF LOKI!!!! PLEASE!!!!
Hey Brothers, always great to hear your theories. This theory of Dumbledore's half-brother turning into a phoenix has a hole. Kendra is not a Dumbledore. She is a muggle-born who marries Dumbledore's father. Therefore, a son of Kendra with Corvus would not have Dumbledore's blood. I like the homunculus theory better!!!
Who else randomly found the Carlin brothers and now awaits their posts
They caught me with the Dumbledore series 😩 been hooked ever since.
Been watching them for years
@@paulgarcia9682 D'you remember the "J left the channel for an aquarium" one?
@@hugi117 yes
Mine was the resurrection stone is trying to kill you. Then Dumbledore’s Big Plan got me hooked too!
I wish they still did ‘these socks are amazing!’ That was great.
P.s wouldn’t it be great if you did G.O.T theories?
I totally "got" the "first of his name" reference
Game of thrones has really fizzeled out due to the poor last seasons. Emergency awesome did/does awesome marvel/dc/rick and morty/game of thrones videos so i would reconmend him
I guess your right Madison, this channel is aimed at a younger audience. Maybe hunger games or Lord if the rings?
Maybe they were fed up of having to buy so many socks. They probably have millions by now... 🤣🤣
@@ila4776 You can never have to many socks 🧦 😆
The family tree in the second Fantastic Beasts movie could be just that section of the Lestrange family that resides in France there could be another family tree that's out in Europe somewhere that has different and more people.
The Barebones were originally a wizarding family who actively bred out their magic.
That Voldemort laugh is just timeless
CoG is one of my favourite films in the HP universe. It is very convuluted, but the vibe of the film is so cool. I think alot of people forget that it's part 2 in a 5 part series. It's not gonna be a great standalone or have a difinitive beginning, middle and end.
My thoughts, exactly.
It’s the disappoint of of expectations - mostly validated by the deleted scenes
9:22 WhY DiD YoU SaY ThAt NaMe?!
I so hope that JKR is sitting somewhere with a tiny notebook to write all this down, because this theory is just amazing!
Just discovered this channel about a month ago, after I started reading Goblet of Fire again. I've now read all of them and have restarted The Sorcerer's (Philosopher's) Stone. You guys reignited my love for Harry Potter and got me through my four day train ride, I thank you
2:06 I use a *_bidet_* for this. Yup.
7:08 Simple; new self-identity. REALLY SIMPLE.
11:32 Eloping. Wait, that's for when two people form a loving union and do so without letting their other loves ones know.
Hm. As plausible as it sounds, I am not sure; is there any way of knowing/discovering the origins of the two siblings, or is their origins as obscure as the fate of the *_Champion of Cyrodiil?_*
The joy you feel when you go to leave work and see there’s a new video for you to listen to on your commute home ⭐️
You know they have a podcast too, right?
Aurelias is Latin and seems to mean golden, there is a flower named after it, which is bright golden yellow. Dumbledore is an old English name for bumblebee, which is also yellow with black stripes.
the way Jay pronunces' Lestrange bother's me a lot
i can barely handle it, it sounds so wack
@@firespur I mean I know it's french but it sound's better in English
Even in French it would be lèstrānge not léstrânge...
And especially if this theory is true, they would pronounce it as Le-Strange, not Le-Stron-j, as they are really American and not French.
If you listen to the audiobooks read by Jim Dale, he pronounces Lestrange the way that Jay does. It’s very weird to hear after watching the movies so often where they pronounce Lestrange differently. Just like how the t in Voldemort is supposed to be silent because it’s french (and is said that way in the audiobooks), but they added the t on in the movies.
The thought that any credit to the lestrange family almost reinforces
Voldemort having a daughter with bellatrix in Cursed Child sort of shakes my bones.
The thing is that they wouldn't be declared as one of the aincent pureblood family without knowing the line that far back
This! Plenty of wealthy families in the UK today can still have their lineage (and wealth) traced back to the Norman conquest. Royal families can get into the Saxon period if I remember correctly. I can't imagine the same would not be true in the wizarding world.
Also the huge glaring hole is leta was pulling her volume from a huge book case, one that came her way when she said her last name. So there were other volumes, we didn't see the inside of them.
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According to the wiki there are Lestranges going back further. Earliest I saw was 1679.
You have to check sources. The HP wiki includes junk made up for the LEGO games, the mobile games, and all kinds of other nonsense and doesn't mark it well nor keep it separate.
@@JosephDavies I did, the source is an official book for Crimes of Grindelwals.
@@bboops23 Interesting! Thanks for the source info. :)
There is evidence that after leaving her family, Martha Stewart became an interior designer.
How was that (immediate) connection not made quicker?
I think the estrange Le Strange step a bit of a leap but the rest seems to fit together really neatly idk if the years match up tho you didn't really specify any dates except about when the lestrange bloodline started
They do have some le-strange family secrets...
That they do!
You’re looking for a significant historical magical event close to 1729 and the founding of Ilvermorny in 1627 is close to you?? That’s 102 year difference.
Umm. There definitely are physical differences between Crows and Ravens other than their size. They're of the same genus, but not the same species. It's like saying that zebra's and horses are the same thing.
Their wing feathers are different, their tails are different, their neck feathers are different, their beaks and beak feathers are different. They make vastly different noises. Crows are generally found in large packs while Ravens are typically only found in packs of 3-4.
The Lestrange Family crest is a crow, which is also a raven, because their ancestor can turn into one. The Ravenclaw mascot is an eagle, which is also a… bird… because… ducks go in cups! Nailed it! 😂
Yay for more wizarding world content. shang chi and the legend of the ten rings isn’t available to watch where i live so i couldn’t see the previous few videos.
Aw man well, glad your able to enjoy some more SCB now!
I’ve been binge watching these videos (harry potter specifically) for a few days now and I just want to say thank you, and I’m trying to remember to like every single one I watch but I’m also high and eating cereal. You guys seriously rock.
I used to watch this channel eons ago. Now I'm back, and it's just as good as I remember. Time to binge all of your hp videos!
I would love to see your guys take on the concept of Harry Potter characters as Greek mythological figures and who would be who based off attributes. Don’t know if you guys would dig that but I just wanted to put it out in the universe!
“They are all just bonkers”
Best way to describe a group of raving mass murderers 😂
Man, I love how y'all research!
Awesome how you connect all the stuff on a such big scale! Amazing work!
This is a real good theory. So good, in fact, I hesitated to call it a theory.
I really like how this theory sounds! But I’m still unsure about the parseltongue heritance thing. If the ability jumps the only other magical child of Isolt Syre because she is a squib, how do we know how it passes on. For all we know it could be in the blood…just activated by the magical ability. So therefore I would say all the magical Lestranges could or should be able to speak parseltongue, but they don’t. I mean yes your theory would explain the lack of the ability, but we need more information of the inheritance of the ability to say for sure.
My mind is blown yet again Jay! I swear Warner Bros needs to hire you to write their storylines!
love your videos and theories always excited to watch them! But I'm struggling with this one, so legend in the Dumbledore family is that a Phoenix will come, or your suggesting Dumbledores turn into them, and the baby is Dumbledores half brother, the Dumbledore legend comes from his fathers side not his mothers, his mother married into the Dumbledores and wouldn't be able to pass on the trait???
was this explained or did i miss it?
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So based on this idea is it possible that the Lestrange's and Kendra are connected since she has been described as having native American descendant features?
i'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE PRONOUNCING "LESTRANGE" CORECTLY.
Quick look to the Lestrange family tree. Question: Why do these people all die so early? These ages seem very short for a wizard
Probably cause of the wars (grindelwald's war,first and second wizarding war) an seven before/after this probably cause the wizarding world is very dangerous like dragons and other dangerous magiacal animals and a lot dangerous spells you can hitten with and dangerous objects that can kill you
Maybe because of inbreeding. It seems to be a tradition between other pureblood families such as the Blacks.
11:33 somebody give them an award already. My gosh.
Would also add credence (pun 100% intended) to Hagrid's statement that every Wizarding family is factually "Half-blood or less," considering Isolt's husband's no-Maj status.
Love this theory, you guys killed it as usual. I’m worried that none of the plots in the fantastic beast movies will come close to this kind of deep cut fan lore
I've been LOLLing for 5 solid minutes imagining Martha Stewart doing a show on "Today, I will show you how to start a new bloodline with things you have at home, but first, we will create a cornucopia centerpiece"
3 sponsors for one video? I don’t know if I should be frustrated or impressed.
Just when I was looking for something to watch
ask and you shall receive!
Asking for you to make a name of the wind quiz 🤗😄
Bro, I ADORE your shirt!!!!! Where did you get it from?
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Daw thanks that just made mine!
Mind consistently blown with your theories.
Yes but what about them being them being part of the sacred 28 which are much older?
And what about their enormous wealth and deep vault at Gringots? One would think they're much older than this theory suggests
Oh and of course the mausoleum
@@bartmol05 those too
Interesting theory. Perhaps when the Fantastic Beasts movies finish we'll know more. I've thought the LeStrange Family came from France possibly with the Malfoys and William the Conquerer. They seem more varied. Leta is very different from Rodolphus. Many of them were darker than the Malfoys.
Bro your theories are awesome! I hope all of them are revealed to be true in the rest of the series!
You guys are basically the Mattpat of harry potter: you make tons of videos about them and yet can still find new things to theorize and discuss about.
Keep doing an awesome job!!👍
love, Love, LOVE this theory! One of your best in a long time!!! So much thought and research, wow!
You know your big when you gotta do 2 sponsor speeches in a video. Congratulations Ben and J.
My paternal family tree has a roadblock where we can't tie into anything because the paper trail somehow got destroyed in the 1600's and no parents are listed for one of our ancestors
Just to clear up your history, the French fought against the British during the F&I War, not the Americans (colonists). They were used by the British to fight against the French
"They *clap* are *clap* the *clap* worst." *clap* LOL
I know it's Martha Steward but I heard "Martha Stewart" and started laughing.
I always thought creedance was the love child of Dumbledore's mom and one of the Lestrange men
Going further back to the 12th and 13th Century, you can find a Lestrange beheading, in battle, the Last King of Wales, a Llwellyn...whom you might remember from a Ward in St Mungo's...
The circumstances in history, and stories/legends from then, about Llwellyn and Lestrange, hint at wizardry.
Llwellyn is in my family line, thus my study. Was very shocked to see Lestrange impacting my family history.
Lestrange ended the Royalty of Wales.
13:20 During the pandemic, I took up bird watching. So I have a lot to say about the differences between crows and ravens. But as any Game of Thrones fans know, it's very common for authors to not distinguish between crows and ravens.
Tldr there's a difference between crows and ravens but nobody cares.
I decided to look up a timeline of happengs IRL that could be a reason for the info before that time. I kid you not
1729 - 1735 Charles Wesley and John Wesley (one letter off but close enough for a Dyslexic) began the Methodism movement in England.
While it's got nothing to do with the fictional Wesley's from the pottervers it's such an odd connection when I'm looking up stuff that could have effected the wizarding world in that year.
oh god, every episode about Crimes of Grindelwald it makes my head hurt, so many new things that are confusin on this movie
i can't even, every theory video blows my mind. genius!
If this movie series bombs and Warner haven't hired the two of you as co-writers we know it's all on them.
3/4 of the video down and THEN Ben goes, "so here's a little guess work..." lol
Kendra Dumbledore wouldn't pass down the "phoenix" gene as she married in to the family, right? That would negate the Corvus/Phoenix theory
He has slightly forgotten that.
Unless she brought the Phoenix gene to the family …
@@paulschacht9777 Albus essentially says "legend has it that a phoenix comes to a Dumbledore in need" but it wouldn't really be a legend if she brought that trait to the family
Unless she created the legend …
@@paulschacht9777 haiyaaa... Paul, Dumbledore wouldn't use the term legend if it just started that makes no sense 😣 please try your best to keep up
I have another video idea that goes with all this "Heir of Slytherin" stuff. How did the Slytherin line (Gaunts) make their gold? Dumbledore said they had once been wealthy until they squandered it. Did they inherit money or did their use their parseltongue gift to sell snake parts(scales, venom/antivenom, fangs) for profit? Must be easy to get your hands on that stuff if you can speak to snakes.
The inclusion of the voldy laugh every time he’s mentioned in a video makes me happy
Me too. Me too.
Completely unrelated to the theory (though NGL this is definitely one of my favorite ones for how plausible it is)- I love your shirt and have been looking for one like it! Where the heck did you find it?!
If you have a look at some of the characters wands and see what they are made of then you look at the description of the wand woods and cores. Doesn’t it make you question why that wand chose that specific witch or wizard or in simpler terms did the wand choose the right witch or wizard and is there another wand that is an even better pair for that witch or wizard
Heir and descendant are not synonymous. Descendants are the blood relatives that come after you through the direct line. An heir is merely the person who inherits your stuff. An heir doesn't even have to be related to you, or even a person. If you leave your estate to charity, the charity becomes your heir. Voldemort isn't Slytherin's heir because of the bloodline. He's the heir because he inherited his ability to speak parseltongue and his mission to get rid of Muggle-borns.
Good videos man! Watched quite a few of them by now and I’ve only just realised you sound almost exactly like TheEpicNate315!
Definitely more differences in crows and ravens other than just size.... Looks and behavior wise...